WEBVTT - Danica De Giorgio | 12 September 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:04.240 Live on Skeynes, Australia. 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:06.800 This is to Nika the Georgio. 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:10.799 Hello and welcome to the show coming up tonight. The 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:14.640 blatant hypocrisy of the left on full display as the 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:19.160 fallout from the assassination of political commentator Charlie Kirk continues. 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:21.160 Will cross to Washington. 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:21.040 D C. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.560 For the latest as the FBI release new video. 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:25.240 Of the suspect. 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:29.680 Why Senator Decinta Napajm Proprice has a prime opportunity to 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:34.240 challenge the Liberal Party to reveal its true conservative values 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:37.560 as she moves to the backbench and the PM hands 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:42.240 down his envoys report on Islamophobia? Why is he still 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:47.280 conflating it with anti Semitism? But first tonight, the assassination 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:51.800 of US political commentator Charlie Kirk has exposed the insane 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:56.800 hypocrisy of the left, you know, the so called tolerant left, 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:01.000 the same left to always worn about the far right, 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.640 the same left to always warn about the right being 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:08.640 so divisive and full of hate? And for what for 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:13.319 holding mainstream views that were once never actually even considered 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:17.520 to be controversial, Like pointing out that basic biology means 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:21.040 there are only two genders, or that women's spaces should 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.520 be protected from men. Or how about that mass migration 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.880 is a problem, Or for pointing out that importing some 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:31.360 people from countries whose values do not align with Western 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.080 democracies is also a problem. 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:35.200 Now, these are not. 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:39.479 Far right views. They are views that you at home share. 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:44.360 But these are views the left want silenced. And they 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:47.280 are the same views held by Charlie Kirk, who has 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:52.080 paid the ultimate price for daring to challenge the nutjobs. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:56.640 The left doesn't want a debate. They aren't tolerant at all. 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:01.760 It's all b s. Twenty four hours after his death, 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.560 we now know more about the suspect after, of course, 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.040 the thirty one year old was killed by a single 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.440 bullet to the neck while speaking at the Utah Valley University. 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:15.440 This is the rooftop where the assassin fired the fatal bullet, 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:19.520 and there he is running from left to the rights 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:24.359 of frame. He's just fired the shot that killed Charlie Kirk, 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:28.840 and this is his getaway. He runs to the back 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:34.359 of the building and jumps down to the ground. Then 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:39.680 he runs towards a nearby road and on into woodland beyond. 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.000 It is video released by the FBI, along with a 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:49.280 new set of images. This is the person of interest 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:50.799 they want to trace. 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.480 Now, the FBI is yet to name the suspect. They 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.440 have confirmed though, that they are pursuing the death penalty. 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.359 But Charlie Kirk was a man and ahead of his time, 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:05.040 warning about issues that are having a huge impact on 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.880 the West, including right now in Australia. 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.840 Rcial battle is coming to the West and the enemies 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:16.040 are Wokeism, re Marxism combining with Islamism to go after 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.760 what we call the American way of life. And the 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.040 American way of life is very simple. I want to 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.400 be able to get married, buy a home, have kids, 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.200 allow them to ride their bike till the sun goes down, 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.840 send them to a good school, have a low crime neighborhood. 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:33.840 Not to have my kid be taught the lesbian, gay, 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.640 transgender garbage in their school. 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:41.160 Now, there's certainly nothing far right about that, But of 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:43.600 course we live in a world of a captured media 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:47.640 and political sphere where debate is shut down and it's 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.600 about time for the left to wake up, get off 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:55.040 their high horses and moral superiority complexes in thinking that 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.480 their opinion is not the only one that counts. Charlie 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.920 Kirk's murder isn't just in a democracy or on free speech. 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.800 It's an attack on the right to have a different opinion. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:10.120 The UK's Channel four Today even described Charlie Kirk as 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:11.559 a far right influencer. 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:16.080 Today America commemorates the tragedy and the terror that was 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.840 nine to eleven. But after the fatal shooting of chrum 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.200 Friend and far right to wing super infants of Charlie Kirk, 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:26.560 what haunts America's domestic terror and spiraling political violence? 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.800 What an absolute load of nonsense. And this is the 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:34.360 exact problem. Just because someone holds right wing views does 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.280 not make them far right. 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:38.760 What a disgrace to his memory. 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.599 What an insult to a man who was murdered in 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.919 cold blood in the most horrific of circumstances for the 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:48.360 world to see, including his wife and two children. 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:50.560 Charlie Kirk was a Christian. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.400 He held traditional Christian values, and now suddenly being a 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:58.359 Christian is a problem. Being a Christian is controversial, and 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.400 of course we are not immune. We saw this in 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:05.200 our own country only a few weeks ago, when tens 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.960 of thousands took to the streets for the marches of Australia, 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.640 and I know many of you at home attended. You 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.760 are worried about mass migration when we can't get every 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.080 day ossies into housing. You are worried about the types 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:20.480 of people we're bringing into this country, some whose values 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:23.280 do not align with ours and some who don't want 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:27.040 to assimilate. And because a group of neo Nazis rocked up, 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:31.120 who were booed by crowds because they were unwanted, the 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:35.120 political class labeled those who attended the rally racist. 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:39.640 And the tone of course of much of the rallies 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:44.240 was unfortunate is the best way that you could put it, 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.240 but hateful in some of the extreme examples. 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.919 Marine Feruki will speak more about the racist overtones of 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:52.720 these rallies. 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:57.119 The Andy immigrant rallies on the weekend must be called 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:01.359 out for what they are, acts of assist fear mongering 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:04.440 and heat. I haven't seen a good fascist yet. 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:09.400 We absolutely condemn the March for Australia rally that's going 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.480 on today. It is not about increasing social harmony. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.840 Right, So every day mums and dads, every day Aussies 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:21.760 all tarnished with the same brush, and it's the same brush. 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:26.160 Charlie Kirk was tarnished with even after his death. This 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:30.000 commentator in the UK Today likened him to the leader 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:31.119 of the ku Klux Klan. 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:32.880 I don't agree. 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.160 He was a sister of the techlockeage. 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:35.880 I believe it was a devid duke for the TikTok 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:37.440 Each and I have some degree. 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.080 He just was the former grand wizard of the Kukos Klan. 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.360 So because you share a view that mass migration is 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:46.919 a problem and that some cultures do not align with ours, 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.440 then suddenly you're a Nazi. And as I said earlier, 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:55.560 the tolerant left, it's all bs. They resort to hideous 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:59.800 violence like what we saw yesterday, and why because there 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:03.239 are arguments never stack up. There's a woman? 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:07.240 What is That's a question question what. 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.600 Is a woman? It's not a trick question what is 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:11.040 a woman? 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:17.280 You can't answer the question with the question, Yeah, define 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:25.400 the woman without saying woman. Social you're in college paying 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:26.200 for an education. 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:30.240 What is a woman? 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:32.200 You don't need media training. 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.480 It's not a trick what is a woman? I mean 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.960 they're obsessed, aren't they with playing the victim and are 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.760 constantly tying themselves in knots of hypocrisy. You remember in 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.720 twenty twenty two, a minute silence was held in US 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:48.840 Congress after the death of George Floyd. Democrats, like House 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:53.160 Speaker Nancy Pelosi, kneeled on a marble floor for eight 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.200 minutes and forty six seconds in his memory. 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.840 We will now kneel for a moment of some. 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:16.880 Yet, yesterday the Democrats refused a minute silence for Charlie Kirk, 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.280 and in the EU Parliament they too wanted a pause, 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:22.240 but the left said no. 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:28.640 Madame President Derek Colleagues, the murderer of political activist Charlie Kirk, 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:33.240 a husband, loving father and patriot, had shocked the world. 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:39.120 We must strongly condemn political violence and rhetoric that incites violence. 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.000 Please stand with me in reflection and prayer in his honor, 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.160 and I yield the rest of my time for a 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:46.320 moment of silence. 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:51.040 Her Coligems, you have a correspondancey business the President and 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:56.040 well we have discussed this, and you know that the 0:08:56.080 --> 0:09:00.400 President said no to eight minutes of silence. Yep. 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.600 They can't hate conservative voices enough, not even for one day. 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:07.239 Can they put their political views aside? 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:07.959 Yet? 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:11.040 Can you imagine what would have happened if this was 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:16.880 a left wing influencer. These people are truly sick. Charlie 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.360 Kirk once said the greatest threat to freedom is when 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.640 people are too afraid to speak their minds. 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:22.880 And he's not wrong. 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.920 Now I think his death will only embolden those with 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.040 conservative views to speak up. 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.040 We should never be afraid. 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:34.520 We need more speech, we don't need silence, because in 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:39.600 the end, evil never wins. Charlie Kirk was a father 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.800 of two young children and a husband. Today, his wife, 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.320 Erica Kirk, clutched the hand of Vice President Jadie Vance's 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:50.640 wife Usha, as her husband's body returned to Arizona and 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.680 Phoenix Air Traffic Control sent this message upon landing. 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:00.760 Parm molimentarily that deserve it. 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:01.960 Make God bless your family. 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.640 The world has lost a great man. And I'll end 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.680 on this quote. If you leave your children a world 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:13.120 where you never stood up, they'll inherit one where they can't. 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:21.440 Joining me now four more on this from Washington, DC 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.840 is Ben Leo, host of The Late Show Live on 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.800 gb News. Ben, good to see you. Thank you so 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.559 much for joining me on the show this evening. Can 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:32.640 you firstly give us a sense of the mood in 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:36.079 the US. More than a day after Charlie Kirk was murdered. 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.520 Ah Zanika, good evening, Good evening to you guys down under. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.640 Hope you're doing okay. Look, it's been a pretty well 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:48.199 win twenty four hours. It's a nation morning, but it's 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.000 quite clear now that it's a nation divided as well. 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:56.640 The reaction has been of sadness, of disbelief, and if 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.600 you were unfortunate enough to stumble across the pretty graphic 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:05.440 videos going around of Charlie Kirk's heinous murder yesterday, it's 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.600 sort of utter shock. I mean, it's a video I 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:09.520 wish I never saw and it's going to be imprinted 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.920 on my brain for a very long time. But also 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.679 on the flip side, unfortunately, as maybe you guys down 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:19.000 under have seen today, it's also a nation that is 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.920 pretty much at tens to hooks. We're at boiling point 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.560 when it comes to the political divide. Tensions are so 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:28.840 high that we've lost well, I say we, the nation, 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.360 part of the nation, especially the left, the radical lunatic left, 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.840 have completely lost their minds in all sense of reality 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:39.040 when it comes to marking the death of not just 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.720 a political commentation, not just somebody who was credited with 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.400 getting Donald Trump elected and really galvanizing the youth vote 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.800 in America. Forget all that, that's just Charlie Kirk's identity 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.559 and persona. This was a loving husband and a father 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.520 of two. And the very facts that many many people 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.800 here this side of the pond, and indeed all across 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:01.360 the world cannot for one day shut their jobs and 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.760 pay respect to somebody who's lost their lives and maybe 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:06.600 said a prayer for the two poor babies who have 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.760 been left behind. No, no, no, they want to get 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.560 out on the streets celebrate the death of Charlie Kirk 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:13.480 because he may have said something they didn't agree with. 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.680 So it's a nation divided, and it's also i'd argue, 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:18.520 a very sick nation on the other side as well, 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.240 who can't bring themselves to pay respects to a fellow's 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.199 human being at the end of the day, it was 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:27.240 so callously murdered in cold blood exactly. 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.160 I mean, it's been a disgrace, to be quite honest, 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.600 to see the left's reaction to this. 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:33.520 I mean, you. 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.120 Point out, this is a man who leaves behind a 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.600 wife and two little children, and the Left can't just 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.080 stop for one minute and think about how they would 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:43.680 feel if they were in the same situation. 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:44.480 It's a disgrace. 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.640 Now I want to talk about this because you interviewed 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.560 Charlie Kirk on your show and I want to play 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:51.679 to our audience a bit of what he told you. 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:52.280 You have a listen. 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:58.160 The question is is macro Islam compatible with Western values? Macro, 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.800 of course it's not. There are three men major reasons 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.120 why Islam does not believe in freedom of speech. Islam 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.360 does not believe in freedom or religion, and Islam does 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.960 not believe in separation of mass and stead. Those three 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.400 things are antithetical to the West. 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.560 Been listening to that interview, it got me thinking, I mean, 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.880 the left are always warning about the you know, extreme 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:19.199 right wing views, the extreme right, and as Charlie shared 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:22.840 in your interview, these views they're not extreme that you know, 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.920 having concerns about mass migration, or you know that there 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.400 are only two genders. But the left don't want to 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:32.280 have these conversations, do they. They're obsessed with labeling anyone 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.559 who doesn't agree with them as extremists. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.720 Yeah, these ideas of oh, oh my goodness me, how 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.840 radical is it that a nation wants to protect their borders. 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.199 I mean something that's ten years ago. You'd ask any 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.559 random person in the street who wasn't really politically engaged 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:51.520 or watched the news. That's a normal thing to think 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:56.200 just ten years ago. Same with mutilating children at the 0:13:56.240 --> 0:14:00.880 altar of gender ideology, or even Laura and Order defunding 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:04.880 the police. These are absolutely insane ideas that I'd say, 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:09.080 you know, fifteen, ten years ago, most normal people would 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.160 be on boarder with they weren't extreme views. 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:12.520 He's also accused. 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.000 Charlie of being sort of homophobic or something like that 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.640 because he said that, you know, he prioritizes the nuclear 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:22.120 family structure. Again, these are just strong Christian values. Who 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.760 would have thought that being a Christian is so controversial 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.160 these days? You talk about migration and you say, okay, 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:31.440 you're carrying a placard saying refugees welcome, open borders. That's fine, 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.360 we've got housing criss Where do you think they may go? 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:38.000 Very simple questions and you can see their brain going 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:41.280 a million miles an hour in real time because their 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.640 arguments come apart at the scenes and when that happens, 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:46.680 because they've been brought up with a life that I 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.840 argue being never being told no, Mummy, can I have 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:51.680 another biscuit? No, Mummy can I. 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:53.800 Mummy? 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:55.800 Can I please have a new bite? Of course you can, yes, 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.360 never being told no. They've grown up through an education 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.480 system where they've been spoilt, been exposed to other ideas, 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.440 and the very moment somebody asks a very simple question 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:08.920 which may challenge their view of the world, their brains explode. 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.000 And unfortunately, a lot of the time, if you have very, 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.120 very disturbed individuals, they turn to violence. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.040 Yeah, exactly like we've seen, you know, over the last 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:16.840 twenty four hours. 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:18.360 And how's the hypocrisy? 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:23.520 Ben Democrats, including former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. They kneeled 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.720 for over eight minutes on a marble floor back in 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:28.920 twenty twenty for George Floyd. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:30.920 I mean this vision, you can't make it up. 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.320 Yet the Dems could not even pause for a minute's 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:35.960 silence for Charlie Kirk. 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.080 Have a look at this, Please rise for a moment 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:42.880 of prayer for Charlie Kirk and his family. Let's let's 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.160 let's wait a minute, wait a minute. The house will 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:47.880 be in an order. The house will be an order. 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:53.040 We will join for prayer. Rate after this, okay, the 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:54.440 House will be in order. 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.120 I just find an extraordinary bend that even after somebody 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.800 whose views that they don't agree with have been murdered 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.800 in the most horrific of circumstances, none of them can 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:07.280 show compassion. What does this say about the Democrats? 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.200 I mean, what does it say about the Democrats? What 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:12.920 did to say about the left in general? I mean 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:16.840 they for some reason that the left fifteen years ago 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:18.760 used to be left of censer. 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:20.240 They have gone so far left. 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.000 There's a reason President Donald Trump calls them the lunatic 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:27.120 radical left. They've lost all sense of humanity, a point 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.400 I touched out at the start of our conversation. And 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.160 I think it's got a lot to do with faith. Actually, 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.960 I'm not massively religious. I got married in the church. 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.360 I believe in Jesus Christ. I wouldn't say I'm a Christian, 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.160 though maybe some people would say I am. But I 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:43.880 think they've got no concept of their own consciousness, their 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.760 own divinity, and what it means to be on this earth. 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.440 I think they lack human empathy and human connection. But 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:51.360 when we are living in a day and age where 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.520 the left can't debate and they resort to violence is 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.120 to carry on doing what Charlie Kirk did. He called 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:01.400 himself the happy warrior. He debated these people, he shared ideas, 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.439 He maybe opened their mind to the possibility that they 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.320 may be wrong, or there may be other answers to 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.040 their questions. He did it with a smile, with a 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.520 right smile, sometimes with a joke. He never tried to 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.679 make his opponents feel stupid or belittled, and that's what 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.960 he did best. And people couldn't handle that. When you 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.840 kill him with kindness, they can't handle it. And I'd 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.520 argue it's the demon inside, especially if you're a god 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.360 loving man like Charlie Kirk was. The demon inside them 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.399 simply can't handle it. But the best thing we can 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:33.359 do is to continue the fight with the smile, prove 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:37.560 them wrong with ideas and debates, and never never sup 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:40.240 to their level of violence and evil. 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.520 Absolutely, I agree, We've got to keep talking about these 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:47.960 issues because in the end, evil never wins no matter what, 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.080 ben Leo are. You're absolutely wonderful. I so appreciate your time. 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:52.840 Thank you very much for joining me on the show 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:53.359 this evening. 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:58.160 You're welcome. Actually soon, Well, let's return to issues, back 0:17:58.160 --> 0:17:58.920 home now. 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:02.439 Senator just said to sent a Nampajimpa Price has a 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:05.879 prime opportunity now to challenge the Liberal Party to reveal 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:07.639 its true conservative. 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:08.399 Values from the back bench. 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.439 The way she was treated this week after comments on 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:15.560 Indian migrants, in my view, was an absolute disgrace. This 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:19.520 is a strong politician, a woman who single handedly helped 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.760 get the no vote over the line in the Voice 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:25.440 referendum at a woman who stands up for this country. 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.679 Yet she was abandoned this week by some members of 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:32.320 her own party. One by one, MPs came out and 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:36.560 apologized to the Indian community on her behalf. Now sure 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.880 she made a mega blunder by not publicly backing her 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.919 own leader in Susan Lee. It cost her her spot 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.520 on the front bench. I said it earlier this week. 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:49.720 Her comments were clumsy in singling out Indian migrants, But 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:51.560 did she have to apologize for them? 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:52.359 No. 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.440 I am still trying to understand why this was such 0:18:56.480 --> 0:19:00.440 an offense. There's nothing racist in noting that labourlike high 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:04.320 immigration because they believe it gives them an electoral advantage. 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:08.080 High migration suits labor politically and it's the only thing 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.240 propping up our Ponzi scheme economy. 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:12.960 So how on earth is a Liberal Party now. 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:15.000 Going to be able to have a proper debate on 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:18.560 migration when as soon as Labor says boo on racism 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:22.480 they run for the hills. Andrew Hasty, who will no 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.399 doubt lead the Liberal Party one day, suggested this week 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:29.640 that this whole saga has been mishandled by leader Susan Lee. 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.720 Didn't have to get to this point, but what is 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.440 done is done, it can't be undone and we've just 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:37.240 got to move forward. 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.880 Some Liberal MPs have also publicly shown their hands backbench 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.920 at Tony Pasen told The Australian, my office has been 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:49.040 inundated by party members who have expressed dismay at the 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.280 decision to dump Senator Price to the backbench, many of 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.919 whom have asked for advice on how they can provide 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.679 their feedback and when asked if Miss Lee hand or 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:03.040 mishandled the situation, he said yes. Liberal Senator Alex Antik 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.840 said Jacinta is a strong and principled leader who should 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:07.080 be encouraged. 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:07.399 To speak her mind. 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:10.000 We are not going to win the next election by 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:14.360 running at the first sniff of grape shot and well, 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:15.120 look they out wrong? 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:16.399 Are they? What a shame? 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:18.560 There are only a handful of politicians who say it 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:21.280 like it is, like just into nampagen for Price. We 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.199 need voices like that in this country. Like Nigel Faraj 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.800 is in the UK, and I wonder he's doing well 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:30.040 in the polls because when he speaks on immigration, for example, 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:33.520 he does it without fear or favor. He even said 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.000 voters trust him on it when I interviewed him this 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:37.240 week on Paul Murray Live. 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:42.160 A lot of our population are just saying enough enough 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:43.440 of this woke rubbish. 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:47.040 We actually want a government that protects our borders and 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:48.760 what's the interest of our people's first. 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:53.119 Moderates don't win elections in my view, just intera nampajmper 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:55.679 Price can out go to the back bench and she 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:58.320 can say whatever the heck she wants, and boy I 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:05.440 hope she does. Let's go straight to Shadow Cabinet Secretary 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:06.160 Andrew Wallace. 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:09.040 Now, Andrew, thanks for your time. Let's start with this. 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:13.040 Some conservatives have cast doubt now over Susan Lee's leadership 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:14.640 following this whole saga. 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:17.240 She's maintained that it's not under threat. 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:20.000 Do you support her. 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:25.439 Absolutely, I support Susan Lee's leadership, Danika. Look, unless someone's 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:27.600 prepared to put their name to those sort of reports, 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:29.919 I think we can treat them with the contempt that 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:30.479 they deserve. 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:34.240 So you're backing her. You think that everything was handled 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:34.640 this week? 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:37.200 Correct? What about Justinta Nampa Jimpur price? 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:40.320 Was the right decision made there that she simply had 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:40.600 to go. 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:41.280 To the back bench? 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.120 Well, Denika, when you serve on the front bench, whether 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.560 it be government or opposition, we have hundreds of years 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:54.439 of Westminster president that says if you can't support the 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.840 leader of the party, then you shouldn't be on the 0:21:56.840 --> 0:22:00.520 front bench. This decision should have come as no surprise 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.560 to anybody, least of all to Jacintha. If she can't 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:08.760 openly declare her confidence and supporting the leader, then you 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:10.120 can't remain on the front bench. 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:14.800 It's as simple as that. Is a Liberal party in disarray, 0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:19.600 sorry I said, is a Liberal party right now in 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:23.040 complete disarray? 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:28.040 Look, I don't believe so. These things are always challenging. 0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:32.879 Opposition is challenging. There are clearly people who nobody is 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:35.960 happy in opposition in the Liberal Party. But we need 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:40.679 to ensure that we are representing our electorates and taking 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:42.640 the fight to labor. You know that the one thing 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:45.280 that the greatest thing that concerns me out of all 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:48.399 of this is that the Prime Minister has had a 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:53.040 week where he's been basically being able to cruise. We 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:56.199 have to return to our main focus and that is 0:22:56.200 --> 0:23:00.320 to keep the government to account and that's what we'll 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:00.680 be doing. 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:02.920 You know, Look, I do agree with you there that 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:05.800 Olbow has been had free reign this week. I mean, 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:09.040 he went on a sex and dating podcast for goodness sake, 0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:11.880 but he's been allowed to talk about himself. Look, let's 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:14.640 move on because the US President Donald Trump has praised 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:17.400 Anthony Albanezi, calling him a good man. 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:18.320 Have a listen at this. 0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:22.720 How was your call with the Italian Prime ministerot, how 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:24.160 is your call with the Italian minister? 0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:26.640 We've been a good laugh. 0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:28.960 Do you think he's a good parent? 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:30.280 Well I do. 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:33.959 I've had respectful relations with President Trump. 0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:35.040 We have. 0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.480 Had four discussions that have been really warm. The last 0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:43.040 one was just Ober a week ago. I look forward 0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:45.680 to continuing engage with the United States. 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:48.720 Well, Andrew, it's all very pleasant, isn't it. 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:52.280 Yet still no sign of an official face to face meeting. 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:58.040 What's been three hundred and ten days now since the 0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:01.440 President took office and still no face to face meeting. Yes, 0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:05.800 they've had some phone calls, but the reality is Orcus 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:11.000 is still a big question mark and the trade deals 0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.960 tariffs that the Australians are now going to be facing. 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:20.359 The Prime Minister needs to pony up here. He needs 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:23.160 to get a face to face meeting, not just at 0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:28.359 a sideline at the UN General Assembly. He needs a 0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:32.359 decent face to face meeting with the President. They're our 0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:35.760 most important security partner. Yet the Prime Minister seems to 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:38.080 be wanting to do everything but meet with The Prime 0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:43.280 Minister is more busy trying to criticize the US than 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:44.920 trying to meet with the US President. 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:46.879 No, I look, I completely agree with you. 0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:48.560 I've got to say before we let you go that 0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:53.119 the beach looks nice behind you tonight, Andrew. I can 0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:55.560 tell you now, Damika it's cool then. 0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:58.960 What it looks like? All right, So no dip for 0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:01.359 you this evening. None of the it looks really lovely. 0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:04.199 Andrew Wallace, appreciate your time as always, Thank you so 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.320 much for joining me on the show. Well let's talk 0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:10.280 more broadly now about migration. Obviously it's a big topic. 0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:12.439 We've been talking about it every day this week. Joining 0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:15.879 me is Macro Business chief economist Leith van Nonslin Lee, 0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:19.080 thanks for joining me based on the saga that we've 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.360 seen them play out in the Liberal Party this week, 0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:25.240 someone like yourself you strongly advocate for lowering migration. How 0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:28.479 confident are you that we will actually get a proper 0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:31.800 debate a debate we so desperately need on big Australia. 0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:34.600 Look, I'm not very confident at all, Danika. There's been 0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:38.200 a conspiracy of silence around immigration, let's be real, for decades, 0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:41.639 and virtually every opinion poll over the past decade or 0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:45.320 so EU strains do not support high levels of immigration 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.000 or a big Australia. Yet politicians continue to shove it 0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.960 down our throats, and the left leading media and some 0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:54.920 politicians they always play the racism card whenever someone likes 0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:57.320 like me or anybody else suggests that we should have 0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:00.240 lower immigration. So I'm not that hopeful unfortunately. 0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:02.880 Yeah, And it's never racist to have a proper discussion. 0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:04.960 It doesn't mean you're anti migration. It just means we 0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:07.880 have to have a serious chat about lowering migration. And 0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:10.680 you know we've been talking about a population plan, which 0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.720 we desperately need. If you were put in charge, what 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:15.960 would you recommend? Where do we even start? 0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.600 Okay, So what I do is I would immediately call 0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:23.480 for a plebiscite on Australia's future population to be held 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:26.920 at the next election. And so you know, it is 0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:29.679 the democratic thing to do to allow Australians to basically 0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.280 vote on how big they want Australia become, say by 0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:35.000 twenty fifty, and then the government could then use those 0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:39.120 results of the plebiscite to calibrate the migration system intake 0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:42.000 against the agreed population levels. That's what I do, call 0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.120 for an immediate population pleba site. 0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:46.280 Now, look, something needs to happen. I think that's a 0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:49.520 fair point. And even last week Labor announced that Australia's 0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:53.960 permanent migrant intake would be maintained at this historically high 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:57.080 level of one hundred and eighty five thousand leaf so 0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:59.360 that there's no plans at all, no plans to cap 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.480 migration of this government laid on the line, what does 0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:03.560 this mean for the country. 0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:05.840 Yeah, so it's important to know that that one hundred 0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.080 and eighty five thousand. Permanent migrant intake is only the 0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.439 family stream and the skilled screen. On top of that 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.400 as another twenty thousand humanitarian migrants we take every year, 0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:16.439 and there's also around thirty thousand net kiwis who come 0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:18.440 to Australia who can live here permanently, So the real 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:21.280 permanent figure is two hundred and thirty five thousand, and 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:25.080 that's coincidentally exactly what the Center for Population's long run 0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.320 projections are for Australias net overseas migration for the next 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.800 forty years. And then, of course we've got the temporary migrants, 0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.760 whose numbers grown by seven hundred and fifty thousand since 0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.440 Labor came to office, and the Albanese government last month 0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.439 mentioned that they're going to raise the student intake by 0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.879 another twenty five thousand. So the upshot of all this 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.840 Danika is that immigration is going to remain high, which 0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:47.800 means that the housing and infrastructure problems in our major 0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:49.399 cities are going to remain unfortunately. 0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:53.359 Yeah, well this is Labour's big Australia and it was 0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.520 interestingly because you wrote this week about how the solution 0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.480 to Australia's rental crisis has been played out in real 0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.520 time in Canada. So what can we learn. 0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:04.840 Yeah, so, just like in Australia, rents in Canada sowed 0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:07.880 unbelievable levels in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three 0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:11.679 in response to Canada's largest ever influx of migrants, so 0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:14.720 they had an absolutely massive immigration boom like US. But 0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:18.120 mid last year, the Canadian government actually imposed a three 0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:21.840 year freeze on Canada's population growth. And the plans work, 0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.520 so the Canada's seen heaps of temporary migrants go home 0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:28.359 and Canada's population growth is flatlined. And as a result 0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:31.560 of this population growth flat line, in Canada's actually seen 0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:35.640 eleven consecutive months of falling rents. So Canada has basically 0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:39.280 in the process of solving its rental crisis by effectively 0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:42.280 freezing the population, not allowing the population to grow, letting 0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:44.840 housing catch up. And as a result, rents are now 0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:47.719 falling and the vacancy rate is rising. 0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:49.240 And what this. 0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:51.760 Tells you is that for Australia, the solution to our 0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:55.640 rental crisis is to obviously slow population growth to a 0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:58.320 level that is below the nation's ability to build housing infrastructure. 0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:00.680 If we do that, we'll actually solve the rentals and 0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:02.720 if we don't do that, the rental crisis is going 0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:04.080 to continue. It's as simple as that. 0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:07.200 Well, the real time solutions are out there, just look 0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:10.000 overseas exactly. Leith ban Oncelm good to see, Thanks as 0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.400 always for coming on the show. We're coming up after 0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:15.360 the break. The Prime Minister hands down his envoys report 0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.480 on is Lamophobia Why is he still conflating it with 0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:19.480 anti Semitism? 0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:21.360 Plus animal rights group. 0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:24.560 Peter calls on a pub to boycott meat for goodness sake. 0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:30.320 All that are more with my panel. Next welcome back 0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:32.280 to the program. Joining me now is New South Wales 0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:36.200 Independent MP Tanya Mahalick and former New South Wales Police Minister. 0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:37.920 David Elliott Hid. Both of you, thank you so much 0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:38.600 for joining me. 0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:40.920 Look, I want to get your reaction first of course, 0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:44.600 to the political assassination of Charlie Kirk this week. David, 0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:47.680 it's been an awful twenty four hours. What do you 0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:51.280 make firstly of the left's reaction and the response that 0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:53.480 we've seen from the left on this. I mean the 0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:55.880 hypocrisy I feel is on sheer display. 0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:01.000 Well, it's disgusting and I have been amused by the 0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:04.800 fact that this is a political movement that is opposed 0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.160 to gun violence and opposed to guns, but they're quite 0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:10.000 happy to celebrate when one of them is used for 0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:14.520 a political assassination. They're prepared to say that. You know, 0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.040 the right are terrible because they restrict freedom of speech 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.560 by not allowing us to protest, but they celebrate a 0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:24.720 man who was exercising his freedom of speech and shot. 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:29.200 There is no I mean, I can't fathom the conservatives 0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:33.160 in the Western world behaving this way if somebody like 0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:38.640 Hillary Clinton died, or if somebody like Tony Blair died. 0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:42.360 So it does show and it's very unhealthy because what 0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:46.800 will happen now is the crazy right wingers will use 0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:51.280 this as an excuse to further their own sometimes radical agenda. 0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:53.280 Well, I mean that is a good point. 0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:55.040 But what do you think, Tanya, what will happen now 0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:57.000 with the conservative movement? Do you think this will only 0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:59.400 just in Bolden, you know, voices like ours are to 0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:00.000 keep speaking. 0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.480 I think it will in bold of them. I think, 0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.880 look as cruel fate will have it. Charlie Kirk, the 0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:10.880 very symbol of vitality and youth in America's aspirational youth 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:14.000 will be forever young. And I think it's such a 0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.240 tragedy and it's got to be said because you know, 0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:20.160 it's hope dashed, so much potential, unrealized potential with him. 0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:21.840 I mean there was talk all week, you know, in 0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:23.480 the last few days that he could have been a 0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:26.840 potential president down the track. So it is such a tragedy. 0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:29.640 And I think it's going to take not just days 0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.160 and weeks and months, but a very long time for 0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:36.320 particularly young people butt conservatives as well, to come together again. 0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:37.000 And they will. 0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.680 They will come back and remain in bold and I 0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.600 think turning point, his own organizations come out and said 0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:46.320 they'll continue to, you know, to be here the legacy 0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:48.880 that Charlie Kirk had and continue to talk to young people. 0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.920 And it's so important that political discourse is not stifled 0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:54.520 as a result. That's a bigger issue. I agree, people 0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:57.840 stop rallying, will people stop coming together and talking on issues. 0:31:58.080 --> 0:31:59.920 The worst thing we could see happen out of these 0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:04.360 is that everyone goes back indoors, stops communicating, stops talking. 0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:06.520 Because what he did was so important for. 0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:09.240 Young people in particularly for aspirational merrit we can't. 0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:09.760 Be silent about this. 0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:11.840 As simple as that, the left love to science debate 0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.400 will certainly not be silenced. Now, look, let's talk about 0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:17.480 the opposition leader, Susan Lee sacking just Cinta Napagin for 0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.040 price this week, for her comments on India migration and 0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:22.480 for failing to endorse her leadership. David, did she have 0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:23.880 any choice? Did you do the right thing? 0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:29.120 Well, she did have to sack Cinta, as tragic as 0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.000 that is, And your latter point was the reason why 0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:34.760 she was sacked. I mean, yes, she said the wrong 0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:39.480 thing and the apology was half winded. But when Cinta 0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:44.520 unfortunately said the leadership of Susan Lee is a matter 0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.800 of the party room, that's like saying that you know 0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:51.280 the coach has the full confidence of the board, or yes, 0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:53.160 I will respect you in the morning. I mean that 0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:56.080 is that's the last line you make in that position. Now, 0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.080 I think that she will be back, and I think 0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:00.520 that Susan Lee wants her to come back. It's stage 0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:04.080 she's too much of a vote magnet. But I mean, 0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:08.000 I think Justinta's big problem this week was her failure 0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:11.640 to endorse Susan Lee as the leader of the Liberal Party. 0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:14.840 I think everything else she could have she could have 0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:16.200 batted on through well. 0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:18.600 I just think that just sent an amajinba Price. Tania 0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.200 is a true leader and I think she she's one 0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.600 of a very small handful of politicians who says it 0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:24.160 like it is. 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.320 And then that's why I think a lot of Ossie's. 0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.080 Do like her, because she's got a backbone, she's got 0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:30.480 a spine, and she stands up for Australian values. 0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:31.800 But what do you think happens next year? 0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:35.160 Your dissenter is somebody who's so incredibly authentic and really 0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:39.320 does connect with ordinary Australians. And I've seen her at 0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.080 some events and people love her, they love talking to her, 0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:45.040 they do connect with her. And look, she's got somebody. 0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:46.840 She's got ten times more. 0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:48.880 Followers and supporters than Susan Lane. 0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:49.960 What does that tell you. 0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:52.320 I think this is a problem for Susan Lane, and 0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:53.920 I think the way she handled this week was a 0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:56.480 problem too. She had the opportunity to apologize to the 0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:59.240 Indian Australian community straight away, she did need to wait 0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:01.600 for dissenter. That was the real issue for her. I 0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.480 think her statement of having a Melbourne Cup field of 0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.800 reasons as to why she got rid of Jacenta was 0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.480 appalling the fact that she put the issue about the 0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:12.799 Indian Australian community. But then also she was offended as 0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:15.960 well well, which issue is that you're sacking to center 0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:17.200 price on which one? 0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:18.520 And the problem for the Liberal. 0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:20.200 Party right now is she was invited to be part 0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.840 of the Liberal Party to Center Price, she's an asset. 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.680 They've got to manage this and provide the necessarious support 0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.000 they need to keep her going because otherwise, I think 0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:32.239 Matt Canavan and the Nats are going to welcome her 0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.160 back with open arms. I think they'd love to have 0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.040 her back in the National Party. The National Party, and 0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:40.400 we know, allows a lot more independent thought and discussion 0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:41.239 than the Liberal Party. 0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:42.560 The liber Party is seemed to be wanted to. 0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.400 Follow the Labor Party's playbook, and that is about stifling 0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:46.359 debate and keeping people. 0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:49.839 She knows what they stand for right now, so while 0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:51.600 she's on the backbend, she can say whatever the heck 0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:55.680 she wants. And I'm sure that she certainly well yeah, absolutely. Now, look, 0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:59.440 the Prime minist has been conflating anti Semitism with Islamophobia 0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:03.120 since October seven, twenty three, and today his Special Envoy 0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.200 for Islamophobia handed down his report. 0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.960 Have a look the targeting of Australians based on their 0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:12.600 religious beliefs is not only an attack on them, but 0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.800 it's an attack on our core values them. 0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:18.359 A favorite Register has recorded a one hundred and fifty 0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:23.840 percent increase and verified in person islamophobic incidents by November 0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:24.759 twenty twenty four. 0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:29.640 David, why is Labour still conflating these two issues. 0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:34.520 Well, you're quite right to question that, and I think 0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:36.920 the fact that we're singling out one faith over all 0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:39.959 the other faiths is racist. I think what we should 0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:42.760 be saying is why do we have faith based racism 0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:46.680 in this country? Why are the Hindus getting chastised by 0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:51.160 other faiths? Why are Muslims Jews orthodox? Well, I mean 0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:55.440 every religious faith in Australia at the moment is under attack, 0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:57.680 and so what they need to do is make sure 0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.759 that they reach out to all of them and say 0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:05.960 faith based discrimination is not is not allowed in this 0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:11.200 country under the under under any circumstances. But highlighting one 0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:15.440 over the other makes those that are victims of discrimination 0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:19.160 and race based hatred that aren't being represented in this 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.759 sort of presentation, feel that they're not going to be 0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.759 part of Australia and that's what causes terrorism undert me 0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:27.040 tell you is a former count of Terrorism minister. We 0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:32.560 push these people into feeling into inter feeling completely removed 0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:35.560 from Australian society and that's when they that's when the 0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:38.439 extremists get howhold of them and they push them into 0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:42.800 extremist views and they do extremist things. And so highlighting 0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.840 one person one faith over another is very very dangerous 0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.120 because it's the faiths that we lead aside and we 0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:51.200 ignore and we don't we don't embrace that are the 0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:53.279 ones that are going to be created will be the 0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.760 next round of extremist behavior. 0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:57.720 Look, I think that's a real fair point. I guess 0:36:57.800 --> 0:36:58.000 you know. 0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.600 My thing about this, Tanya, is that we're seeing anti 0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.480 Semitism on a daily basis. We've got Jewish Australians scared 0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:08.880 all the time, and yet Labor haven't done anything to 0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:12.040 help the Jewish community realistically since October sevent twenty twenty three. 0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:14.600 But suddenly we've got this Islamophobia report as. 0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:18.440 Well, and now where are the priorities? It's all optics 0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:19.200 for alb and easy. 0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.520 We know this, and it's interesting because there's fifty four 0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:26.120 recommendations coming out of this report today. I'd be interested 0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:27.919 to see how many of the Labor Party are really 0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:29.680 going to put through. And one of them is to 0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:33.480 actually have religious freedom laws in Australia, which is not 0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:36.200 going to go down that much. And where is the 0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:40.520 report for the Christians who are also being attacked in Australia. 0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.799 I mean, where's the inquiry into that. I mean, like 0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:47.880 I got to tell you, you know, none of this comes 0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.640 out well when we look at one group over another. 0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:54.040 And I think, and you're right about anti Semitism, because 0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:56.840 it is alive and well across parts of Australia and 0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.560 certainly parts of Sydney. I represented a community that had 0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:03.560 a very large Islamic community for many, many years. I 0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:06.600 actually never had anyone raise his Lamophobia to me personally, 0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:07.799 So that tells you a lot. 0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:08.680 You know. 0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:11.640 I'm not questioning that there might be some instances around, 0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:14.480 but I would have to say in recent news, you'd 0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:16.160 have to think there are a lot more anti Semitic 0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:20.120 sometimes than any other incidences at this point in time, 0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:23.399 particularly since the hostage crisis, and particularly given that you've 0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:26.480 got these non stop rallies and protests and people sort 0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:31.440 of igniting with about that is making people very nervous. 0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:33.640 What's our Australian community is doing well? 0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:34.720 It's going to be another big weekend. 0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.960 Actually, you've got Melbourne, they've got violent they've got possible 0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:41.080 violent clashes this weekend, Anti immigration, Socialist Network and pro 0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:44.440 Palatine Palestine groups to hit the streets. So it's going 0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.040 to be a fascinating weekend. We've got to leave it there. 0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:47.600 We're at a time. 0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:49.839 Tanya Mahalk David Elliott, good to see you both. Thank 0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:52.160 you so much for joining me on the show. Coming 0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.720 up after the break live to London as the UK's 0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:58.120 ambassador to the US is sacked for his close relationship 0:38:58.200 --> 0:38:59.960 to convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. 0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:00.840 That's next. 0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:06.680 Come back or UK Prime Minister Kirs Starmer has sacked 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:10.120 Britain's ambassador to the US after emails. 0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:12.440 Appeared to show a close relationship. 0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:15.400 Between him and convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. It comes just 0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:20.160 twenty four hours after Starmer publicly backed Peter Mandelson. Joining 0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.880 me now from London is Samara Gill, a host of 0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:25.960 Triggered with Samara Gill. Good to see you again. Thanks 0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:28.920 so much for joining me. This sounds like an absolute mess. 0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:31.680 Lovely to be back, Danika. 0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:36.279 Honestly, Kis Starmer will go down in history, as you know, 0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:40.800 the worst political judgment ever for a Labor prime minister, 0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:43.560 or any prime minister for that matter, of the United Kingdom. 0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:47.440 He has had a terrible, terrible past few weeks. Just 0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:50.000 last week he had to force our deputy leader out 0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:54.000 for tax dodging, and now this week with Lord Mandelsson, 0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.880 the person who holds the highest diplomatic office in the 0:39:57.000 --> 0:40:01.000 land has also had to be sacked because emails revealed 0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:06.040 his extremely close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. I mean they 0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:11.080 were quote unquote best pals. This is an absolute scandal. 0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:15.919 His nickname in Westminster was Prince of Darkness, which should 0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:18.480 have told Kiss Starmer everything that he needed to know 0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:22.760 before he appointed him as the US ambassador. But clearly 0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:26.400 this man's judgment doesn't go anywhere. I mean, these emails 0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:29.960 are very nefarious. It's sort of him sending love and 0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:35.680 support to Jeffrey after hisophil pedophilic convictions and also saying 0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.239 we will support you through this, and then trying to 0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:41.160 advise him on how to get a lesser sentence. 0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:44.120 This is really really. 0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:46.160 Nefarious, and the question is why was he even there 0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:49.240 in the first place, Because he's been tied to Epstein 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:52.759 for years. People know about him flying on the Lolita Express, 0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.000 the jets, the parties. 0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:55.279 The photos. 0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:58.880 So the fact that Starmer was defending him just twenty 0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:02.640 four hours ago having to sack him shows our government 0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:06.600 in complete disarray. I mean, you do say that smart 0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:08.640 men are inherently stupid. 0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:10.560 Well that's what they say. 0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:13.600 Tell you what, what an absolute mess and just such 0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:17.719 a poor political judgment. But I guess we aren't surprised 0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:20.440 when it comes to the UK's Prime minister, are we. 0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:22.560 Now. Look, we've got to talk about Prince Harry. 0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:24.640 I know, just before we came on air, he just 0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:28.360 landed in Ukraine on this unannounced visit after being invited 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:31.560 there by the government. But this comes a day after 0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:33.840 he met with his father, King Charles for the first 0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:38.120 time in nineteen months in London, Samara. The pair shared 0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:41.560 tea at Clarence House during a visit which lasted forty 0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:46.399 five minutes. My question would be, Samara, Harry couldn't even 0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:49.760 spare any more time for his father forty five minutes 0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:51.360 after one and a half years. 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.200 I'll tell you why. I'll tell you the real reason. 0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:58.640 It's all a pr stunt. I mean him and Megan 0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:01.719 had this really flash new up team over in la 0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:04.640 who are trying to make all these meetings happen. I 0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.319 mean this Ukraine thing, I hate to say, but I 0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:09.319 think it's also tied to that. I mean, this is 0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.560 a man who pines on about how unsafety feels and 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:15.560 how he needs the British taxpayer to pay for his security, 0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:18.319 but he's very happy to reveal about his twenty five 0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:21.160 Taliban killings in his book that he got a book 0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:24.560 deal for, and then very happy to jet over to Ukraine. 0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:26.960 So this is a man who clearly doesn't care about 0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:30.759 his safety. It's just about his victim complex and his 0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:31.640 meeting with the King. 0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:32.360 I agree. 0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:35.080 I mean, I think that it was a symbolic gesture 0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:37.920 to say, hey, I'm back in with the royal family. 0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.960 Public don't take me for a full But no. 0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:42.160 One's falling for it. 0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:46.000 I mean, Harry is really really deep in trouble at 0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:49.200 the moment, even financially. I mean, we know that Megan's 0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:51.960 jam failed to sell out her Season two of her 0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:56.319 cooking show was an absolute disaster. And this man, I 0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.839 think will be asking Dad for a little bit more 0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:03.400 money very very quickly. I only see bad things on 0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:06.040 the horizon. And I think also he's trying to get 0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:08.760 back in with the King because he knows he'll never. 0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:11.080 Be able to get back in with William. That's never 0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:11.720 going to happen. 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:15.200 So once that door is closed, and unfortunately the King passes, 0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:18.399 I don't think there's any chance of him getting back 0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:19.080 into the fold. 0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.520 No, which, you know what, He's done it to himself, 0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:26.160 so and so was Meghan. So clearly Meghan has got 0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:30.439 Harry exactly where she wants him. And yeah, forty five minutes, gee, 0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.240 especially after you know the King had cancer, has cancer. 0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:35.440 It's shocking. Samara, girl, We've got to leave it there. 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:37.200 Good to see you as always, Thanks so much for 0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:39.759 joining me on the show. Coming up after the break, 0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:41.960 the winners and losers of the week, including the croc 0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:45.920 wrestling tourist and a couple shares the secret to marriage 0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:47.520 on their seventieth anniversary. 0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:51.560 That's next, Welcome back. 0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:53.200 It is that time of the week where we sought 0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:55.560 the winners from the losers and helping me to do 0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:58.919 that is Lisa Goddard from a Doni Media. Lisa, thank 0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:01.120 you so much for you' only me good to see you. 0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:03.920 Now we'll just speaking about this and your winner this 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:07.080 week is Prince Harry doing all the right things for 0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:08.400 a change. 0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:10.000 Yeah. 0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:12.520 Look, I know you just described it as a pr 0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:14.799 trip and no doubt it was, but you would have 0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:16.440 to say it is a pr win. 0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:16.759 You know. 0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.319 He saw him out there playing the Royal pantomime part, 0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:22.480 the part that he was born to play, smiling, smiling 0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.480 for the crowds, receptions, saying all of the right things. 0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:28.280 When he was asked about his dad, he said he's great, 0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:30.200 and like last time where he said, well, I don't 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:31.920 know how much longer he has got to go. So 0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.359 I think Prince Harry is very much out there trying 0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:37.080 to rebuild his image, and based on the four days 0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:38.480 that he's just spent in the UK, I think he's 0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:41.319 done an okay job. Interestingly, they're saying that he's been 0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:43.759 told that they won't be background in the media. The 0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:46.319 question will be whether his dear wife can keep her 0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:48.680 mouth shut and not pass on information and see a 0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:49.799 money opportunity in this. 0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.080 Oh yeah, that's actually a really good point. I'm sure 0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:54.960 she will. I mean that she's out there in Montecido's probably, 0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:58.120 you know, conjuring up a plan, or maybe she's looking 0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:02.120 to sell it or mentioning on one her other shocking series. 0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:04.080 Now, look, I had to give my winner. 0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:07.399 This week to Adelaide lovebirds Robert and Vera Bird, who 0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:11.399 was celebrating their seventieth wedding anniversary. This is their platinum milestone, 0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:14.400 and they had some simple words of wedded wisdom. Have 0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:14.920 I listened? 0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:18.600 He forgives me if I do something wrong, and I forgether, 0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:19.919 have he does something wrong? 0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:22.080 We just just. 0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:25.000 Carried on, never go to bed with an argument. 0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:25.879 That's right. 0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:28.000 Live together and do things together. 0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:31.160 We've been together all the time, and we do everything together. 0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:35.120 I just think, Lisa, that is just so beautiful, the 0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:38.360 two of them holding hands talking about you know what 0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:39.440 the secret. 0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:40.319 To a successful marriage is? 0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:42.520 That you're about to get married to my co host 0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:43.520 James McPherson. 0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:45.960 Maybe do you take some inspiration from that? 0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:50.640 Well, Deniko, I think he's actually watching this. Help Hopefully 0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:53.080 he's listening to that. Never go to bed angry is 0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:55.399 the one piece of advice I've heard from the number 0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:57.200 of stories I've done with couples who have made it 0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:00.239 to these great milestones, they've all said exactly the same thing. 0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:02.600 But can I add to this, back when they were married, 0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:05.239 think about it, how much how much change they've seen 0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:07.239 in that time. But back then they were lucky if 0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:09.200 they had a TV when they started out, then it 0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:10.839 was the point of no, you get up and change 0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:13.120 a TV channel, not me. And then they've survived their 0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:16.000 argument about remote controls, so they clearly have some very 0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:18.200 good negotiating skills built in there as well. 0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:21.120 Yeah. All it takes, I feel like, is basic communication. 0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:23.600 I just thought what a beautiful couple are and it 0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:27.640 just makes me feel just so good. Now, your loser 0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:30.640 of the week is a croc wrestling tourist. Have a 0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:31.040 look at this. 0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:35.480 You got a good piece of my arm there. 0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:37.080 Look at that guy. 0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:40.040 This is what dreams are made of this. 0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:42.560 As a kid, I wanted to come to Australia and 0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:43.640 just look at crocodiles. 0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:45.440 Can me get my hand out and see him up clothes? 0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:51.920 Oh gee, how's that? Leysay? He's got it? Well, I 0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:52.440 looked at this. 0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:54.520 He calls himself the real Tazan and he's got more 0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:57.560 than fifteen million followers and that video alone has so 0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:01.120 at one point seven million likes. What it's caused quite 0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:02.960 astir You've got Peter arguing that. 0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:04.680 He's unfathomably stupid. 0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:06.840 You've got the premiere here in Queensland saying he's a 0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:08.879 goose and he's facing a fine of up to thirty 0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:10.960 seven thousand dollars, calls for him to be kicked out 0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:12.479 of the country, never allowed back. 0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:13.879 And what triggered my. 0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:16.080 Interest in this is remember back in March where we 0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:18.920 had the US influencer who picked up that baby wombat. 0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:21.759 Back then we had even the PM buying into this. 0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:23.799 So it'll be interesting it happened in the past week. 0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.120 It'll be interesting to see who else jumps on this bandwagon. 0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.400 But really it's quite disgraceful. Is in it only for 0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:28.880 the clicks? 0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:31.839 Oh that's right, I forgot about that wombat saga where 0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:34.640 you know the Prime Minister couldn't speak about anti Semitism, 0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:37.160 couldn't speak about it, the cost of living crisis, but 0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:41.480 the wombat was his number one topic of the day. Gosh, 0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:42.120 how can I forget? 0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:43.880 Look mate, give him another talking point? 0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:46.759 Well that's it. Yeah, Well, if he's not appearing on 0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:49.759 sex and dating podcasts as well, he's talking about wombats. 0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:50.319 Now. 0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:54.480 Actually, my loser of the week, Lisa, is Anthony Alberizi, 0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:58.120 because look at this yesterday, He's gone to the Pacific 0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:00.520 Islands Forum. He's over in the Pacific at the moment, 0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:04.520 and he's rocked up in this bright pink Hawaiian shirt 0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:07.160 when he's meant to be in the navy shirt worn 0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:11.000 by the other members there. How embarrassing. I don't know 0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:14.120 how that's happened. So he basically he's had to leave 0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:19.000 the Pacific Islands conference, only to return sometime later. There 0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:22.360 he is in the actual correct item of clothing. How 0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:23.880 does something like this happen? 0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:28.920 Denika? Could you imagine being the media advisor in the background, 0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:31.200 and what happened once he scampered off to find the 0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:33.960 right shirt, Like seriously, the pink shirt, that's that's something 0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:36.239 you wouldn't even wear to a Barley cocktail party. So 0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:38.960 it was horrendous in itself, But he was meant to 0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:41.640 be there representing unity and he's stuck out like a 0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:44.279 sore thumb, like talk about the odd man out. So look, 0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:46.920 it was a massive we call it the wardrobe malfunction. 0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:49.080 We've seen it on TV networks. Don't dare turn up 0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:51.359 looking the same. You're a jacket gate. Not a good 0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:52.080 look for the PM. 0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:54.200 Not a good look. You're right. I mean, you just 0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:56.719 wouldn't wear that to a backyard barbie. You wouldn't wear 0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:58.440 it in general. I don't know how that happened. I 0:48:58.440 --> 0:48:59.400 don't know who's advising. 0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:00.600 It's the memo. 0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:03.840 Shocking, shocking. Lisa Godard, good to see you. Thank you 0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:06.040 so much for joining me on the show this week.