Speaker 1: On Scorn Loves Australia. This is the Wider Panalty Show.
Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Panety Show. Coming
Speaker 2: up tonight, a brutal attack against a Brisbane bus driver
Speaker 2: outrages of the community. The panel will be here to
Speaker 2: discuss that and much more. Shortly, we'll have all the
Speaker 2: pertinent news from the Iran Israel conflict and America's historic
Speaker 2: intervention with the brilliant Josh Hammer. Professor Im Plimer will
Speaker 2: explain the likely impact on global oil prices, and later
Speaker 2: in the hour, the always charming Kinsey Schofield will have
Speaker 2: the latest royal and celebrity news. And Left is Losing
Speaker 2: It really lives up to its name.
Speaker 3: Tonight, Ran Side, I'll.
Speaker 2: Give a day but first now this must be just huge,
Speaker 2: rely for the Trump administration. The alban Easy government has
Speaker 2: broken its silence on the US strikes against Iran. Foreign
Speaker 2: Affairs Minister Penny Wong said the Australian government supports the operation,
Speaker 2: but she also called for de escalation, dialogue and diplomacy.
Speaker 3: Let's hear from Prime Minister Anthony alben Easy.
Speaker 4: The world has long agreed that Iran cannot be allowed
Speaker 4: to get a nuclear weapon and we support action to
Speaker 4: prevent that. That is what this is. We don't want
Speaker 4: escalation and a full scale war. We continue to call
Speaker 4: for dialogue and for diplomacy. We urge Iran not to
Speaker 4: take any further action that could destabilize the region.
Speaker 2: Joining me now is IPA Chief economist Adam Crichton and News.
Speaker 3: Corps senior writer Patrick car Lyin. Patrick, I'll start with you, how.
Speaker 2: Do you see the Australian response, Not that it really matters, but.
Speaker 5: Look, I think the fact that perhaps because it happened
Speaker 5: on Sunday, there were other things that sort of got
Speaker 5: in the way of talking about the most important event of.
Speaker 6: The year so far.
Speaker 5: Why wouldn't you, as a statesperson want to be shaping
Speaker 5: the agenda, standing up talking about what has happened here
Speaker 5: and what it means and how it affects Australian values.
Speaker 5: How can you wait twenty four hours while the rest
Speaker 5: of the world goes about its business to actually sort
Speaker 5: of finally put your hand up beggars below.
Speaker 2: And it particularly stands out, Adam, because we've been very
Speaker 2: vocal in offering unwanted advice to the Israelis and to
Speaker 2: the Americans talking about Oh.
Speaker 3: You know, we need to de escalate the situation.
Speaker 2: That's what Penny Wong said before these strikes. So for
Speaker 2: her to now come out and say she is in
Speaker 2: support of them, and so is the Prime Minister, it's
Speaker 2: a confusing message.
Speaker 6: Yeah, look, it certainly is. And it's just embarrassing.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, we're urging the Israelis to do
Speaker 7: things things all from the other side of the world.
Speaker 7: I mean, I really don't think they're listening. But look,
Speaker 7: I think the reason for the delay, which was somewhat embarrassing.
Speaker 7: They should have had a press conference straight way, I think.
Speaker 7: And it's probably because there was descent within the Labor
Speaker 7: Party about how to respond. There's always been a hard
Speaker 7: left faction in that party that really dislikes the US.
Speaker 7: And you know, there are some members probably who would
Speaker 7: like I ran.
Speaker 6: To strike backly.
Speaker 7: Obviously I can't say that, but that's probably the reality.
Speaker 7: So there was probably some internal descent, and that's why
Speaker 7: you get this very lukewarm, lukewarm endorsement of what the
Speaker 7: US has done.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: The sheer complexity of the operation, which was called Midnight Hammer,
Speaker 2: I've got to say I.
Speaker 3: Like the name.
Speaker 2: It involved the deployment of one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 2: warplanes carrying seventy five weapons targeting three Uranian nuclear sides.
Speaker 2: It even included a set of decoy flights where b
Speaker 2: two Spirit bombers flew over the Pacific to create a distraction.
Speaker 2: It took eighteen hours to fly from Missouri to the
Speaker 2: target area, and the timing of the attacks were planned
Speaker 2: to achieve the element of surprise.
Speaker 3: The missiles punctured through the.
Speaker 2: Rock and detonated in side the bunkers below Adam. It's
Speaker 2: an astonishing operation. It seems to be, from what we
Speaker 2: know thus far, carried out flawlessly.
Speaker 7: Look just a reminder of the extraordinary sophistication and power
Speaker 7: of the US military. I mean, if you're going to
Speaker 7: have an ally that is the ally, have the United States?
Speaker 7: Certainly no, it is. It is just extraordinary. And apparently
Speaker 7: the target was the size of a washing machine. Ultimately,
Speaker 7: and of course these bombs are being dropped from extremely
Speaker 7: high in the air and they hit all their targets.
Speaker 7: I mean, the Iranian regime is saying that some of
Speaker 7: it has survived. So that's what I don't kind of understand,
Speaker 7: because if that's a complete lie, then surely their own
Speaker 7: people are going to find that out at some point.
Speaker 7: So I kind of don't know what their strategy is.
Speaker 7: I think at this stage I trust the US government
Speaker 7: over the Iranian government.
Speaker 8: But I don't know why that's the operation.
Speaker 7: But there's certainly mixed messaging put that.
Speaker 2: There is Patrick, I don't know why the Iranian regime
Speaker 2: wants to put it out there that we have more
Speaker 2: nuclear sites, because that's just inviting America's just sad more wallplanes.
Speaker 3: At two thirty eighth to blow them up.
Speaker 2: But we're now really on the verge as close as
Speaker 2: we have been in decades to regime change in America,
Speaker 2: in Hran, not America, since the Islamic Revolution of nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy nine. This is probably the weakest that regime has been.
Speaker 6: Look you look at that operation. It was amazing, wasn't it.
Speaker 5: I Mean it's a movie title Midnight Hammer, But there
Speaker 5: wasn't a shot fired back in anger by the Iranians.
Speaker 5: That's the amazing thing. They really are weakened and depleted.
Speaker 5: And as you say, you've got a regime that's been
Speaker 5: the oppressing people for forty years. There's no freedom of expression.
Speaker 5: It belongs in the Middle Ages. It is backward and
Speaker 5: this is the closest that we've got to actually pulling
Speaker 5: tearing down that region, and that's exciting. It's also volatile,
Speaker 5: it's terrifying, but it is just a fascinating moment in history.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 2: We'll have plenty more on the Iran Israel conflict and
Speaker 2: the US's part in it with Josh hammersh shortly, but
Speaker 2: let's go to some local issues. To a shocking video
Speaker 2: that's emerged of a bus driver in Brisbane who was
Speaker 2: the victim of a sickening assault at Union. Reps say
Speaker 2: the attacker was asked to get off the bus and
Speaker 2: can then been seen trying to be pushed off before
Speaker 2: unleashing a barrage of brutal punches. A driver has been
Speaker 2: repeatedly punched in a sickening assault on board a Brisbane bus.
Speaker 10: Communion officials say the attacker was asked to get off
Speaker 10: the bus near south Bank last night when he was
Speaker 10: identified as a serial abuser of bus drivers. He's seen
Speaker 10: he is striking the council worker in his fifties several times,
Speaker 10: unfazed by the commuters watching on. The driver suffered ear
Speaker 10: and facial injuries. And I'm told he'll be off work
Speaker 10: for at least a week. The rail, tram and Bus
Speaker 10: union says violence against its members is escalating, with incidents
Speaker 10: involving weapons and spitting on the rise.
Speaker 3: Patrick.
Speaker 2: That is so disturbing. And one of the disturbing elements
Speaker 2: of it is the bystanders now loads to be too
Speaker 2: critical because people don't want to become victims themselves.
Speaker 3: They're hesitant to get involved.
Speaker 2: But what happened to the whole good samaritan principle? What
Speaker 2: about coming to the aid of someone who's obviously being
Speaker 2: attacked viciously?
Speaker 11: There?
Speaker 5: Look, I think you can understand people are sort of
Speaker 5: shocked and some people feel paralyzed. But that went for
Speaker 5: quite a while. Nobody actually stepped in, Nobody actually.
Speaker 6: Thought hang on, it's even yelled out. Yeah. It's a
Speaker 6: real indictment on society.
Speaker 5: I suppose people are too scared to get involved and
Speaker 5: not to act, and you'd like to see it.
Speaker 6: That's what you want to see. You want to see heroes,
Speaker 6: and you see.
Speaker 5: Examples on American flights when terrorists are taken over, they've
Speaker 5: done great things.
Speaker 6: People need to step up in those situations.
Speaker 2: To me, Adam, this is the real crisis in masculinity.
Speaker 2: It's not all this toxic masculinity nonsense we keep hearing about.
Speaker 3: This is the crisis. This is a lack of.
Speaker 2: You know, there were men on that bus and they
Speaker 2: should have stepped forward. Now I know it's easier said
Speaker 2: than done, but you've got someone there who's been pummeled.
Speaker 2: He could have been left with catastrophic injuries. Luckily he
Speaker 2: hasn't been well.
Speaker 8: But what mean is that?
Speaker 7: You know, if someone had tried to defend the man,
Speaker 7: I mean, they could have been charged themselves, just like
Speaker 7: That's part of happened with Daniel Penney. Remember in New
Speaker 7: York City, I think last year or the year before.
Speaker 7: So I think people are slightly reluctant to get involved.
Speaker 7: I mean, I do hope with that guy that if
Speaker 7: it's found out that he's not an Australian citizen, he
Speaker 7: should be deported immediately back to his home country.
Speaker 3: I hope that's what happens.
Speaker 7: An example should be made of him. You know, statistically
Speaker 7: it's possible that he's not an Australian citizen.
Speaker 2: Well, we are so soft on crime, but I know
Speaker 2: Queensland has been with the christa Fuley government. They've tried
Speaker 2: to crack down, particularly on youth crime. But yeah, we'll
Speaker 2: see what happens with this case.
Speaker 3: We'll keep an eye on it.
Speaker 2: Now to an unintentionally a funny story about falling standards
Speaker 2: at Australian universities.
Speaker 3: Our unis are dropping in the.
Speaker 2: Global rankings and apparently it's all Donald Trump's fault. Obviously,
Speaker 2: that's according to the Guardian who said attacks from Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's second administration. Apparently that's one of the leading reasons
Speaker 2: patrick for the slip in standards. Why won't Donald Trump
Speaker 2: stopped just attacking our university.
Speaker 5: Would have bizarre tape Donald Trump for Melbourne winter.
Speaker 6: It is freezing.
Speaker 12: It is.
Speaker 5: In the top ten reasons. There's lots of problems with
Speaker 5: the Israeli university sector. There's caps on international students, the
Speaker 5: visas are doubled in cost for international students, and you've
Speaker 5: also got the fact that they are hotbeds of activism.
Speaker 5: Is not about the tolerance shown for anti Semitic sort
Speaker 5: of behavior on campuses collectively across Australia is embarrassing and shameful.
Speaker 5: There are lots of good reasons why universities are floundering
Speaker 5: in Australia, Donald Trump is.
Speaker 7: Not, so they should have been accepting the money anyway,
Speaker 7: I think from the US goverment. I mean they're meant
Speaker 7: to be Australian universities. They're taking money from foreign government.
Speaker 7: There shouldn't be any Plus they're rolling in cash anyway, so.
Speaker 3: Absolutely need the money.
Speaker 2: And Trump's conditions on those moneys were entirely sane and logical.
Speaker 3: They basically said, if you don't.
Speaker 2: Believe in scientific facts like there are two genders, then
Speaker 2: you can't have our money. If you're pushing racist DEI policies,
Speaker 2: you're prioritizing people based on their color of their skin,
Speaker 2: then you don't get our money. I think that's as
Speaker 2: American taxpayers over there. They voted for that administration. But
Speaker 2: we've got twenty five out of Australia's thirty six universities
Speaker 2: seeing a fall in the international ranking, so they're not
Speaker 2: doing well. Let's talk about a little about gender ideology
Speaker 2: before you two go.
Speaker 3: This clip has gone viral around the world.
Speaker 2: It's of our BBC news reader Martine Croxel. She's had
Speaker 2: enough of the radical gender activists. Watch as she corrects
Speaker 2: the AUTOQ.
Speaker 13: Here Malcolm mystery, who is involved in the research, says
Speaker 13: that the aged, pregnant people, women and those with pre
Speaker 13: existing health conditions need to take precautions.
Speaker 2: Adam, she's now become an Internet sensation. She put out
Speaker 2: a post on x thanking all her new followers.
Speaker 3: She's like, I wonder why that's happening.
Speaker 2: She knows precisely why that's happening, because that clip has
Speaker 2: gone viral.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, it's great to know there's still
Speaker 7: some sane people in the bbcaid. I hope, I hope
Speaker 7: she gets a pay rise out of this ultimately with
Speaker 7: her newfound fame.
Speaker 6: But she was quite right to correct it.
Speaker 7: And you know, the producer that wrote it should be
Speaker 7: a shamed of themselves.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: But we're seeing this also in the Australian media constantly Patrick.
Speaker 3: The English language being.
Speaker 2: Deliberately mangled to respect They then pronouns and all sorts
Speaker 2: of silliness. Do you see any sort of a pushback
Speaker 2: in Australia or we a little bit behind the UK
Speaker 2: and the US in this respect.
Speaker 6: Look, we're probably behind.
Speaker 5: I've never heard anyone referred to a pregnant person before
Speaker 5: any conversation ever I've ever had look, it is pushing back.
Speaker 5: It has taken too long. I mean when you've got
Speaker 5: euphemisms for all sorts of things, so don't make any
Speaker 5: chest feeding. What the hell is chest feeding? It does
Speaker 5: need to be pushed back. I'd like to think it
Speaker 5: has started to be pushed back, but it really is
Speaker 5: out of hand.
Speaker 6: And good on her.
Speaker 2: Good absolutely, Patrick Carli Adam Crichton, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for your time. Now we know the Iran strikes will
Speaker 2: impact oil prices. We've seen evidence of that already in
Speaker 2: the past week, and going forward, further price increases are anticipated,
Speaker 2: particularly if Iran decides to block the Strait of Hormez,
Speaker 2: which is a key trade route accounting for around twenty
Speaker 2: percent of the world's crude oil. Let's bring in leading
Speaker 2: geologists and author Professor in Prima in what can we
Speaker 2: expect to see and what will be the impact on
Speaker 2: Australian households and sources.
Speaker 9: Well, a lot of countries are dependent upon Middle Eastern oil,
Speaker 9: and that's because when you make diesel and petrol and
Speaker 9: aviation fuel, you have to mix a light sweet crewe
Speaker 9: and that is a very fluid oil with not much
Speaker 9: sulfur in it, with heavier oils to then refine it
Speaker 9: into the fractions you need, so you need Middle Eastern
Speaker 9: oil to blend with other oils.
Speaker 6: So Europe would.
Speaker 9: Be affected, the US would not be affected very much
Speaker 9: at all, if at all. Australia would be affected, but
Speaker 9: the main country that will be affected would actually be China.
Speaker 9: China gets most of its oil from Iran. If the
Speaker 9: strains were closed, then oil coming out of Saudi would
Speaker 9: be affected, but that can be replaced with oil from elsewhere,
Speaker 9: especially Nigeria and the US. So it would have an
Speaker 9: effect on the price. The price is very, very volatile,
Speaker 9: and it may well be short term, but we saw
Speaker 9: in the Gulf Ward it was fairly long term and
Speaker 9: it took a long while to rebuild facilities which had
Speaker 9: been destroyed.
Speaker 2: Now, and let's hear from energy expert Robert Bryce, who
Speaker 2: was on Peter Quidlin's program last week.
Speaker 3: This is what he had to.
Speaker 2: Say about Australia's energy policies.
Speaker 14: What is wrong with you Australians. You have natural resources
Speaker 14: that are the envy of the rest of the world.
Speaker 14: You're the Saudi Arabia of the southern hemisphere. You export
Speaker 14: seven times more coal than you consume, and yet you
Speaker 14: don't want to burn coal. You have nearly thirty percent
Speaker 14: of the world's uranium and you won't build nuclear reactors.
Speaker 14: You export three times more natural gas in the form
Speaker 14: of energy than you consume, and you won't drill for gas.
Speaker 14: I mean, I just don't get it. I love Australia.
Speaker 14: I think it's an amazing country, but your policy is
Speaker 14: just baffling.
Speaker 3: He is bewildered.
Speaker 6: Ian.
Speaker 3: Is he right?
Speaker 2: Could Australia be the Saudi Arabia of the southern hemisphere.
Speaker 9: Well, he's absolutely correct. We will never be the Saudi
Speaker 9: Arabia of wind and solid that's just nuts, But he's
Speaker 9: absolutely correct.
Speaker 15: We are very, very well endowed with energy. Before I
Speaker 15: left the country, I had a dinner with him and
Speaker 15: he was giving these views which he's given in his
Speaker 15: very sketches around Australia.
Speaker 9: And we are very well endowed with almost every mineral
Speaker 9: we use, exceptions being rare earth elements, cobalt and a
Speaker 9: couple of others. But we are so well off in
Speaker 9: this country. We have so much energy we are clamping
Speaker 9: our producers to the ground such they can't move. Now,
Speaker 9: it's not that we have a lot of energy and
Speaker 9: the not using it. It's that we're not able to
Speaker 9: use it. We have mountains of regulations to get through
Speaker 9: to be able to use energy, and these regulations are
Speaker 9: repeated in local government regulations, in state government regulations, and
Speaker 9: in federal government regulations. So the time delays and the
Speaker 9: costs to actually get a project up to producing jobs
Speaker 9: and producing commodities is enormous. And by taking so long,
Speaker 9: you actually lose markets. So he's absolutely correct. We are
Speaker 9: such a well allowed country. We are not performing as
Speaker 9: a country that actually wants to grow or actually remain wealthy.
Speaker 9: And if we keep going the same way with stopping projects,
Speaker 9: preventing projects, and having more than sixty percent of this
Speaker 9: country as aboriginal land, then it is very, very difficult
Speaker 9: to see that we will become a wealthy country. Now
Speaker 9: seeing signs of that already. The wealth of this country
Speaker 9: is falling, the productivity is falling. Yet we have the resources.
Speaker 9: So here's someone from outside who's stating the bleeding. Obvious
Speaker 9: governments must know this and they're doing nothing about it.
Speaker 2: Professor Plymatt, thank you so much for your time, and
Speaker 2: I think I can safely say you're the first guest.
Speaker 3: We've ever had coming in live from the.
Speaker 2: Seychelles, so thank you particularly for making time for us tonight,
Speaker 2: coming up after the break, Lefties Losing It, plus the
Speaker 2: Trump administration's psychological warfare to demoralize the Iranian regime, all
Speaker 2: the details of Operation Midnight Hammer coming up next with
Speaker 2: Josh Hammer. You're watching the Reader Panny Show, and it's
Speaker 2: time for Lefties Losing It and we're going to get
Speaker 2: to a very enlightening comparison shortly.
Speaker 3: But let's start with a bit of frivolity.
Speaker 2: Remember when Will Smith wasn't a massive beata joke before
Speaker 2: we found out his wife had boyfriends, and he slapped
Speaker 2: Chris Rock for telling a very mild joke about Jada Pinkett.
Speaker 3: Smith. Well, he's desperate to rebuild his.
Speaker 2: Image, and this song about how much he likes pretty
Speaker 2: girls may just be the most embarrassing thing I've seen
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: And I'll watch full episodes of the view for you.
Speaker 16: I like pretty girl girl, I love pretty girl.
Speaker 2: Girl. I like pretty girl Sadly the song doesn't get
Speaker 2: any better.
Speaker 16: There's not a lot of women not pretty to me.
Speaker 16: It means you're pretty to me, and I ain't talking
Speaker 16: about just the prettiest he pretty girls. I love pretty
Speaker 16: girls girls.
Speaker 3: That's enough of that, thank you.
Speaker 2: But if the official video wasn't bad enough, Will Smith
Speaker 2: decided to gather a crowd and perform that catastrophe of
Speaker 2: a song in London.
Speaker 3: And just check out how excited the crowd is.
Speaker 1: I'll change your life.
Speaker 6: You me, girls, I like pretty girl.
Speaker 3: No one's dancing. Will give it up son talking about dancing.
Speaker 2: Here is proof that leftism ruins everything.
Speaker 3: Here is Alyssa Milano.
Speaker 2: You may remember her from programs like Who's the Boss
Speaker 2: and Charmed.
Speaker 3: That was before Trump broke her. This is her now.
Speaker 3: If you.
Speaker 2: Know, there's a bit of a Britney Spears vibe to
Speaker 2: these antics.
Speaker 3: Is it a cry for help?
Speaker 4: Pee?
Speaker 2: Now to that comparison I mentioned earlier, comparison between a
Speaker 2: year ago and now a year ago, this man was
Speaker 2: the commander in chief, the lead of the free world. Yep,
Speaker 2: the lefties wanted you to believe he was perfectly fine.
Speaker 2: No cognitive decline then at all.
Speaker 3: Well that was then, this is now tonight.
Speaker 17: I can report to the world that the strikes were
Speaker 17: a spectacular military success. Iran's key nuclear and Richmond facilities
Speaker 17: have been completely and totally obliterated around the bully of
Speaker 17: the Middle East must now make peace. There will be
Speaker 17: either peace or there will be tragedy for Iran, far
Speaker 17: greater than we have witnessed over the last eight days. Remember,
Speaker 17: there are many targets left. Knights was the most difficult
Speaker 17: of them all by far, and perhaps the most lethal.
Speaker 17: But if peace does not come quickly, we will go
Speaker 17: after Those are the targets with precision, speed and skill.
Speaker 2: Can you detect the subtle difference between those two leaders.
Speaker 2: One was a cognitively impaired puppet control by FI left
Speaker 2: radicals who empowered the Iranian regime through weakness and terrible deals,
Speaker 2: and one has devastated the mad Mullers of the Iranian regime.
Speaker 2: Now the Democrats are demanding that Donald Trump informed them
Speaker 2: before any future attacks. Here is Adam Schiff on CNN.
Speaker 12: The failure to brief Democratic lawmakers the making this just
Speaker 12: another partisan exercise by the administration. The President didn't seek
Speaker 12: the approval of Congress, because he didn't make the case
Speaker 12: of the American people, because he didn't even inform one
Speaker 12: of the parties in Congress. That's when you have a
Speaker 12: real problem engaging in warfare on a partisan basis, So
Speaker 12: a lot of risks here for the country, which you
Speaker 12: know is the reason why you come to Congress in
Speaker 12: the first place.
Speaker 2: Why would President Trump consult with Democrat lawmakers the lunatic
Speaker 2: French who currently enjoin approval ratings south of twenty percent.
Speaker 3: And how exactly would.
Speaker 2: You hope to blindside the Iranians if you are briefing
Speaker 2: the anti American miscreants in the Democrats. Anyway, while the
Speaker 2: Trump administration was taking out Iran's nuclear science, the Democrats
Speaker 2: were dealing with far more serious matters. They had Senator
Speaker 2: Alex Padilla crying on TV because JD.
Speaker 3: Vance called him Jose.
Speaker 1: Sadly, it's just an indicator of how petty and unseerious
Speaker 1: this administration hits. But he's the vice president of the
Speaker 1: United States. You think he'd take the situation in Los
Speaker 1: Angeles more as serious.
Speaker 2: Now, predictably, there are many on the left are having
Speaker 2: absolute meltdowns about these strikes against Iran, people like this
Speaker 2: next dude who is on Iran's side, on the side
Speaker 2: of Islamist terrorists.
Speaker 3: And somebody in the White House they trump and down.
Speaker 8: Already had. Now we got to worry about this step
Speaker 8: footing and.
Speaker 6: Nothing.
Speaker 18: But but.
Speaker 8: I did not verifying. I'm on a ran side.
Speaker 6: I'm with them.
Speaker 8: You haven't give a day.
Speaker 3: I like his cute little hat. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's an act of parody. You can't kindly tell
Speaker 2: these days now, that's what the Democrat's propaganda. I'm in
Speaker 2: the mainstream media. They are floundering.
Speaker 3: Watch this on CNN.
Speaker 2: Uh They're lucky enough to have a token conservative on
Speaker 2: the panel, Scott Jennings, and he always injects a little
Speaker 2: bit of sanity into Procedes.
Speaker 19: In order for the President to take action without congressional approval,
Speaker 19: he needed to show that there was a real, true
Speaker 19: threat to the United States and that the strike would
Speaker 19: not cause escalation. Congress must see the underlying intelligence about
Speaker 19: how they were in direct threat and how the US
Speaker 19: needed to respond without congressional approval. But as of right now,
Speaker 19: I have not seen that.
Speaker 11: You're arguing that after forty six years of the Iranian
Speaker 11: regime killing Americans, threatening Americans, saying over and over and
Speaker 11: over again, death to America, that maybe they were just
Speaker 11: didn't mean it. That they're fiery but mostly peaceful, Iranian
Speaker 11: Butcher's and.
Speaker 3: Vice President J. D.
Speaker 2: Evans was being asked over and over again, is America
Speaker 2: now war with Iran?
Speaker 3: This Paul Kai was growing weary of pointing out the obvious.
Speaker 18: The big question is the United States now at war
Speaker 18: with Iran? No, We're not at war with Iran, John,
Speaker 18: war with Iran's nuclear program, and I think the President
Speaker 18: took decisive action to destroy that program last night.
Speaker 3: First question, mister Vice President, is the United States now
Speaker 3: at war with Iran?
Speaker 18: No, Kristen, We're not at war with Iran. Were at
Speaker 18: war with Iran's nuclear program.
Speaker 2: Let's bring in Newsweek's senior editor at Large and Article
Speaker 2: three Projects, Senior Council Josh Hamma. Josh, let's start with
Speaker 2: hearing what the President had to say.
Speaker 3: Shortly after the successful completion of the.
Speaker 17: Operation, the US military carried out massive precision strikes on
Speaker 17: the three key nuclear facilities in the Iranian regime for Doe, Natans,
Speaker 17: and Sfahan. The strikes were a spectacular military success. Iran's
Speaker 17: key nuclear and Richmond facilities have been completely and totally
Speaker 17: obliterated around the Bully of the Middle East must now
Speaker 17: make peace. If they do not, future attacks would be
Speaker 17: far greater.
Speaker 2: And Josh, are we going to say more strikes and
Speaker 2: what are the risks of Iran striking back.
Speaker 8: Reda. The ball is totally in the Iatolas court right now.
Speaker 8: Iran has been crippled for really the past year and
Speaker 8: a half now, going back to the October seventh aftermath,
Speaker 8: when Israel started really hammering Iran's various proxies throughout the
Speaker 8: region Hezbola in Lebanon, the Huthis and Yemen Hamas and
Speaker 8: Palestinian Islamichihat and Gaza. But really since the war started
Speaker 8: in Earnest about a week and a half ago with
Speaker 8: the idea of operation inside Iran, Iran has been absolutely pummeled.
Speaker 8: I mean, they are essentially kind of an animal that
Speaker 8: has been gored at the jugularder and they are kind
Speaker 8: of in their last dying breaths here. So the question
Speaker 8: I think for the Mulas in Tehran is do you
Speaker 8: guys really want to go down like this or do
Speaker 8: you want to try to come back to the negotiating
Speaker 8: table and try to take some sort of deal to
Speaker 8: at a bare minimum, save your lives and get out
Speaker 8: of here alive. So the ball is very much in
Speaker 8: their Court, if they do not want to be at
Speaker 8: war with the United States, they can choose to end
Speaker 8: this conflict, battle, war, whatever word you want to start here.
Speaker 8: They have that power right now. Donald Trump Jadvance's administration
Speaker 8: is willing to sit down and try to come to
Speaker 8: some sort of agreements here. It's probably not going to
Speaker 8: mount too much for them, but at a bare minimum,
Speaker 8: they will probably get away with it with their lives.
Speaker 8: That if they are willing to sit down now. If
Speaker 8: they are not, though, Donald Trump has now shown very clearly,
Speaker 8: very clearly and unambiguously that he is ready willing able
Speaker 8: orderlign the eager, you might say, to unleash the full
Speaker 8: fury and hell of the United States military and all
Speaker 8: that that entails. Is obviously the first time in the
Speaker 8: history of US military that these specific weapons, the so
Speaker 8: called bunker buster bombs, the mass ordnance penetrators, and the
Speaker 8: B two bombers of the first time this has ever
Speaker 8: been used, and they were used to pretty spectacular effect.
Speaker 7: There.
Speaker 8: So the ball is very much in Iran's cords. I
Speaker 8: will say Rita as an American, I'm not terribly concerned
Speaker 8: about the possibility of Iranian reprisal for the very simple
Speaker 8: reason that they're very much out of cards at this
Speaker 8: particular moment. They're talking about shutting down the straight of
Speaker 8: hormones and trying to then spike oil rices for Westerners
Speaker 8: at the pump. That is pretty much their last card
Speaker 8: that they have at their availability there, their missile defense,
Speaker 8: their launchers, all of it is severely depleted at this
Speaker 8: point there. So I don't know how many more options
Speaker 8: they have here. Russia China are not going to be
Speaker 8: souping in to save them. They're not going to bail
Speaker 8: them out there. Iran is very very weak, and they
Speaker 8: have the opportunity to try to save the molas lives.
Speaker 8: But otherwise I think Rita, you could potentially see some
Speaker 8: more strikes that I'm willing to play ball.
Speaker 2: And Donald Trump is now talking about regime change. You
Speaker 2: put out a post talking about Mega make Iran great again.
Speaker 2: That's going to send a chill up the spines of
Speaker 2: the regime. The Mulas there will not want to hear
Speaker 2: about regime change.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Rita, It's a very interesting time to be following
Speaker 8: this conflict, isn't it.
Speaker 20: So.
Speaker 8: I mean, this all kind of went down here on
Speaker 8: Saturday evening American time, and then you had the first
Speaker 8: initial statements from folks like Vice President jad Van Secretary
Speaker 8: of Defense Pete hex At, both both of whom went
Speaker 8: out of the way to emphasize, as we heard from
Speaker 8: Jade Evans there, that this is not a war against Iran,
Speaker 8: but a war against the nuclear program. Secretary of Defense
Speaker 8: heg sat saying over and over again, the United States
Speaker 8: does not seek regime change. And now, apparently as of
Speaker 8: Sunday afternoon in the US time, we don't know whether
Speaker 8: or not America is seeking regime change. Because Donald Trump
Speaker 8: is kind of throwing it open there as a possible speculation.
Speaker 8: We don't know exactly what he means, though, we don't
Speaker 8: actually know whether or not Donald Trump is talking about
Speaker 8: in a Rock two point zero style attempt at forcible replacement,
Speaker 8: which in my personal intimation, would probably be a mistake
Speaker 8: if it entails anything remotely resembling the Iraq or Afghanistan
Speaker 8: style prolonged commitments there of the attempt to kind of
Speaker 8: sculpt a Western style democracy. We've all learned the lessons
Speaker 8: there didn't work the last time, there's no reason why
Speaker 8: it would work this time as well.
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's talking about that. I don't think
Speaker 2: he's talking about boots on the ground. I think is
Speaker 2: just acknowledging there that the Iranian people themselves want reijime change,
Speaker 2: and perhaps that's signaling to them that that America is
Speaker 2: going to be supportive, unlike Barack Obama, who pretty much
Speaker 2: did nothing, in fact, didn't give any comfort to the
Speaker 2: uprisings whilst he was president. Let's hear a little bit
Speaker 2: more about this historic strike on those three nuclear sites
Speaker 2: in Iran. Here is Defense Secretary Pete Hexit.
Speaker 20: In and out and back without the world knowing at all.
Speaker 20: In that way, it was historic, a strike that included
Speaker 20: the longest B two Spirit bomber mission since two thousand
Speaker 20: and one and the first operational employment of the mop
Speaker 20: A massive ordinance penetrator.
Speaker 2: And Pete Hexit also spoke about the psychological impact of
Speaker 2: the strikes on the Iranian regime.
Speaker 20: Taran is certainly calculating the reality that planes flew from
Speaker 20: the middle of America and Missouri overnight completely undetected over
Speaker 20: three of their most highly sensitive sites, and we were
Speaker 20: able to destroy nuclear capabilities, and our boys in those
Speaker 20: bombers are on their way home right now. We believe
Speaker 20: that'll have a clear psychological impact on how they view
Speaker 20: the future, and we certainly hope they take the path
Speaker 20: of negotiative peace.
Speaker 2: Josh pace through strength, that's the motto, and I think
Speaker 2: that's what he's talking about there. That would be so
Speaker 2: utterly demoralized, demoralizing.
Speaker 3: For the Iranian regime.
Speaker 8: You know, reader, the funny thing about Donald Trump when
Speaker 8: it comes to his foreign policy is that you have
Speaker 8: a lot of the usual suspects and the establishment foreign
Speaker 8: policy ranks here, both on the right and the left
Speaker 8: and everywhere in between that say, oh, Donald Trump has
Speaker 8: no cohesive view of foreign policy. There's no Trump doctrine,
Speaker 8: they like to say, but Riata, that's kind of the
Speaker 8: whole point. That's actually literally the point that you have
Speaker 8: no idea what this guy is going to do. He's
Speaker 8: utterly unpredictable. Richard Nichley call this the man Man theory
Speaker 8: of foreign policy, the man Man theory of geopology. There,
Speaker 8: that literally is the entire point. I mean, when Donald
Speaker 8: Trump said We're going to wait two weeks to see
Speaker 8: if we're on comes to the table there, turns out
Speaker 8: that was a total ruse all along. It was a
Speaker 8: total attempt to time just from them the wrong way.
Speaker 8: How about the fact that that there were other B
Speaker 8: two bombers deployed over the Pacific Ocean towards Guam. There
Speaker 8: are total decoy there. How about the whole fact apparently
Speaker 8: that for months and months people from the Trump minstration
Speaker 8: seemed to be leaking to the media implying that there
Speaker 8: was this big rift between Donald Trump and Benjamin Nintan Yahoo.
Speaker 8: Trump didn't visit Israel during Yes were there? And now
Speaker 8: you listen to Donald Trump's speech after the bombing, over
Speaker 8: and over and over again, this repeated rhetorical emphasis on
Speaker 8: these shared interests and destinies of the United States and Israel,
Speaker 8: President Trump, primaticier and nets Yahoo. So it was all
Speaker 8: it was all a gimmick. It was all an attempt
Speaker 8: to just throw the opposition off guard. I mean read.
Speaker 8: I think a lot of folks like to make fun
Speaker 8: of MAGA supporters for thinking that Donald Trump was actually
Speaker 8: playing for D chess. But in this particular case, he
Speaker 8: wasn't merely playing for D chess. He was playing like
Speaker 8: four hundred D chess. I mean, this is one of
Speaker 8: the most brilliant operations, one of the most brilliant extended moments,
Speaker 8: not just of his presidency, probably of his entire life. There,
Speaker 8: I think Donald Trump, it's utterly brilliant right now. Huge
Speaker 8: kudos as well also to Prime mister Natan Yahoo because
Speaker 8: the fact that Israel came in as hard as they did,
Speaker 8: that they crippled Iranians air defenses and missiles launchers and
Speaker 8: so forth. There are the nuclear scientists, these incredible masade
Speaker 8: operations there. The fact that they came in as hard
Speaker 8: as they did, I think was ultimately the final thing
Speaker 8: to convince Donald Trump to get off the table and
Speaker 8: support this operations there and again it's the NINETIH military
Speaker 8: and all its hell and fury. What will the moles do?
Speaker 8: That's a million dollar question.
Speaker 14: At this point.
Speaker 2: Well, what are the concerns of sleeper cells in the US?
Speaker 2: Iranians sleeper cells that took advantage of Biden's border crisis
Speaker 2: and came into the country, and that they're ready to
Speaker 2: strike on US soil? We know the Iranians want to
Speaker 2: assassinate President Trump. How real are the fears that they
Speaker 2: could be attacks on US soil?
Speaker 8: So I think it's a real concern. I'm definitely not
Speaker 8: going to downplay that there. There are one thousand percent
Speaker 8: are Iranian sympathizers here, many has Balla sympathizers there, and
Speaker 8: anyone who's been in or around Dearborn, Michigan or ham Track, Michigan,
Speaker 8: I think knows that there are many people there who
Speaker 8: quite literally times will fly the HEAs ball of flag.
Speaker 8: There are a lot of people there with varying degrees
Speaker 8: of allegiance to the Irani regime, and there are various
Speaker 8: terrorist proxies throughout the Middle East and throughout the world.
Speaker 8: I think the key thing though, to note Rita is this,
Speaker 8: this has been a problem for a very long time.
Speaker 8: There have been one off lone wolf sleeper cells in
Speaker 8: the United States, in the Americas in general, certainly all
Speaker 8: throughout the European continent. This has been going on for
Speaker 8: a very very long time. So it is a slightly
Speaker 8: heightened acute possibility of a lone wolf attack here or there.
Speaker 8: Now is slightly greater possibility than there was a week
Speaker 8: or two ago. Sure, I think that's probably the case there,
Speaker 8: but it was also a possibility a week or two ago.
Speaker 8: You know, Americans were sobered up yet again on New
Speaker 8: Year's Day in New Orleans, Louisiana this year, where a
Speaker 8: jihadist who was radicalized at his mosque in Houston, Texas,
Speaker 8: drove to Bourbon Street in New York and murdered fifteen
Speaker 8: people in cold blood. So these things just tragically do happen.
Speaker 8: That's just the reality of Islam and Western civilization. They're
Speaker 8: not always necessarily a peanut butter and jelly style mix,
Speaker 8: shall we say. So, that's kind of just the way
Speaker 8: that it is right now.
Speaker 16: Now.
Speaker 8: Having said that, look, look personally, I mean, as a
Speaker 8: religious Jewish American there, I am definitely on higher alert
Speaker 8: than normal there. But I do think that the ultimate reader,
Speaker 8: this is not the kind of thing that can possibly
Speaker 8: deter America from doing what is best in America's national interest.
Speaker 8: America has to do what is in its national interest,
Speaker 8: and the chips will fall where they may from there.
Speaker 2: Now, let's check in with the Trump Deranged in New
Speaker 2: York Times, once a serious publication no longer.
Speaker 3: Now it's running these sorts of.
Speaker 2: Fact checks objecting to Pete Hegseeth referring to the male
Speaker 2: pilots as our boys. This is what the New York Times,
Speaker 2: John is May wrote. He wrote in the briefing Hegzeth
Speaker 2: referred to B two pilots as our boys on those bombers,
Speaker 2: Yet both men and women have.
Speaker 3: Been trying to fly them. Josh, I mean, come on,
Speaker 3: what is going on there?
Speaker 2: What an absolute idiotic thing to obsess about.
Speaker 3: I mean, there weren't male pilots.
Speaker 2: He was one hundred percent accurate, And just because females
Speaker 2: have trained on them doesn't mean he can't use gendered
Speaker 2: language when describing what actually happened.
Speaker 8: Rider. The United States military has dropped the very first
Speaker 8: time the so called moth, the massive ornane penetrator. They've
Speaker 8: done it a whopping twelve times by my account, I
Speaker 8: think fourteen based on some mess miss twelve or fourteen
Speaker 8: times they've done it there. But don't worry. The New
Speaker 8: York Times is on the real story, right, I mean,
Speaker 8: I mean, I mean, what an absolute joke. I mean,
Speaker 8: what an absolute fabulous joke here? I mean, these people
Speaker 8: had any self awareness, they would look at a tempest
Speaker 8: and teepolo at this and say, wow, are we actually
Speaker 8: out of touch here? By focusing on the on the
Speaker 8: genders of the pilots or the particular Beat two bombers,
Speaker 8: none the fact that O g by the way. Oh yeah,
Speaker 8: these planes flew seven thousand plus miles to blow the
Speaker 8: crap out of this most fanatical evil Regimes nuclear weapons program. Maybe,
Speaker 8: just maybe that's actually the key story here, Not the
Speaker 8: fact that Pete hecxth is talking about proverbially speaking, the
Speaker 8: boys in the planes, by the way, the fact that
Speaker 8: we have a young, telligenic, well spoken, well quoft defense
Speaker 8: secretary who's able to talk about the boys in the
Speaker 8: planes rita. Oh yeah, that's why US military recruitment is
Speaker 8: at its best points in at least a decade, if
Speaker 8: not mass. This is the whole point of Pete hecset.
Speaker 8: This is why people like me were so gung ho
Speaker 8: about his nomination the first place, because the way he talks,
Speaker 8: the way he acts, the fact that he fought in
Speaker 8: numerous post nine to eleven wars in I Rock in Afghanistan.
Speaker 8: He won the Bronze Stars there. He is in touch
Speaker 8: with the young men and women, to the New York
Speaker 8: Times points, who are willing to pick up arms and
Speaker 8: serve this country.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 8: So the fact that he's willing to kind of talk
Speaker 8: like this, talk like a boy, you know, irony intended,
Speaker 8: the fact that he's going to talk like the boys
Speaker 8: in the Coppice there. That is very much a feature,
Speaker 8: not a bug of the Pete hag set set dea phenomena.
Speaker 2: And his own military record is again exemplarie, and that's
Speaker 2: something so many in the media do not give him
Speaker 2: credit for. They just referred to him as an ex
Speaker 2: TV host. Now, before you go, Josh, Donald Trump, many argue,
Speaker 2: should have got the Nobel Peace Prize for the Abraham Accords,
Speaker 2: but he's not a globalist lefty, so he had little chance.
Speaker 2: But nevertheless, Pakistan has formerly nominated President Trump for the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six Nobel Peace Prize in recognition of his
Speaker 2: decisive diplomatic intervention and pivotal leadership during their recent India
Speaker 2: Pakistan crisis. End quote there, And Josh, this comes as
Speaker 2: the Trump administration confirms a peace deal between Rwanda and
Speaker 2: the Congo.
Speaker 8: Well, there's a lot of diplomacy going on on the
Speaker 8: global stage right now. The big cahuna, so to speak,
Speaker 8: for Donald Trump when it comes to these piece deals
Speaker 8: is of course Russia, Ukraine. That's the one that that
Speaker 8: that he campaigned on, you know, time in time, time
Speaker 8: and time again, day and day out on the campaign
Speaker 8: trail I think that Donald Trump is probably getting a
Speaker 8: little frustrated with that situation. But yeah, all around the world,
Speaker 8: you know, we we've seen diplomacy in action right now.
Speaker 8: And look the fact that that that that Iran has
Speaker 8: one final opportunity to actually come to the negotiating table again.
Speaker 8: They'll probably not gonna be able to salvage much. Their
Speaker 8: nuclear ambitions are totally done zo. It seems like if
Speaker 8: they come to the negotiating table, whatever deal might come
Speaker 8: is probably not going to result in the Ayatotal remaining
Speaker 8: in power. But if he wants to live out his
Speaker 8: remaining years in exile somewhere there, he has one final
Speaker 8: chance to do so there. So look, the irony again
Speaker 8: is that people say that Donald Trump has has no
Speaker 8: foreign policy theory, no doctrine. He's a warmonger there, he's
Speaker 8: a Manchurion can the different lamor putin he's a fascist
Speaker 8: and Nazi rita. They have thrown literally everything and anything
Speaker 8: at this man. But he achieves peach you use peace,
Speaker 8: you achieve stability there And as we say here in
Speaker 8: the United States, just let the man cook, because by
Speaker 8: letting him cook and letting his brain just kind of
Speaker 8: do what it does there and just call the shots
Speaker 8: like he sees there. The world ends up being a safer,
Speaker 8: more secure, and more steel place, as we've seen yet
Speaker 8: again with this fantastic and spectacular operation inside the long
Speaker 8: Republic of Run.
Speaker 3: Josh Hamma, thank you so much for your time. Tonight
Speaker 3: still to come.
Speaker 2: A troubling admission from former First Lady Michelle Obama.
Speaker 3: Kinsey Schofield has the latest welcome back. Joining me now is.
Speaker 2: To Die for podcast hosts Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, Let's start
Speaker 2: with former US First Lady in these days, A absolute
Speaker 2: misery guts Michelle Obama, who said she's glad she never
Speaker 2: had a son because he may have turned out just
Speaker 2: like her husband.
Speaker 3: You should have threw a boy in the mix. I'm
Speaker 3: so glad I didn't have that boy. He would have
Speaker 3: been a Barack Obama.
Speaker 1: Amazing.
Speaker 8: No, I would have felt for him.
Speaker 3: I'm sure that's what every father.
Speaker 2: And husband wants to see, that she is grateful she
Speaker 2: didn't have a son.
Speaker 8: Just like him.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 21: I mean, we've noticed this pattern in some of Michelle
Speaker 21: Obama's recent interviews in podcasts, where she takes subtle jabs
Speaker 21: at former President Obama and while some might chalk it
Speaker 21: up to playful banter or honesty. I think there's a
Speaker 21: fine line between transparency and diminishing your partner in public.
Speaker 21: In my opinion, mutual respect, especially when you're in the spotlight,
Speaker 21: is essential. When those comments start feeling more like digs
Speaker 21: than dialogue, I think it comes across as disrespectful, and
Speaker 21: I think you might recognize it too. Barack seems very
Speaker 21: self deprecating in public. He doesn't ever seem to be
Speaker 21: ugly about his wife.
Speaker 2: No, I haven't said seeing him poke fun at her.
Speaker 2: I don't think it will be received well, especially now
Speaker 2: that she's got a podcast. She's got a platform to
Speaker 2: to hit back, So it'll be interesting. There's been so
Speaker 2: many rumors about those two.
Speaker 3: Now for well six months.
Speaker 2: All yeah, we've been hearing about how that marriage is
Speaker 2: not as solid as some thought it was. Now let's
Speaker 2: move on to Prince Harry. He's looking to reconcile his
Speaker 2: relationship with the Royals. He's reportedly invited King Charles and
Speaker 2: Prince William to the twenty twenty seven Invictor's Games. What
Speaker 2: are the chances they'll attend, Kinsey.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 21: Yeah, so this is being framed to something of an
Speaker 21: olive branch. Insiders say that an email invitation will be
Speaker 21: sent out later this month, followed by a formal invitation.
Speaker 21: But when these gestures are publicized before they're privately extended,
Speaker 21: it raises questions about their sincerity. It starts to feel
Speaker 21: less like a reconciliation and more like pr and realistically,
Speaker 21: the likelihood of the family accepting a slim not just
Speaker 21: because the event overlaps with Queen Camilla's eightieth birthday, but
Speaker 21: because trust, once broken, takes more than a headline or
Speaker 21: an invitation to rebuild.
Speaker 2: Well said, Now it's been revealed Meghan Mikl wasn't interested
Speaker 2: in receiving any advice when she first joined the royal family.
Speaker 2: Tell me what Princess Sophie has had to say on
Speaker 2: this matter? That's right, Well, it's Joyce's Duchess Sophie. It
Speaker 2: is it, Princess or Duchess. I could never keep track
Speaker 2: of who's who.
Speaker 21: It's Duchess Sophia, So Charles brandwith Is actually revealed that
Speaker 21: when Meghan was first introduced into the fold, Queen Elizabeth
Speaker 21: suggested that Megan meet with Sophie because she thought she'd
Speaker 21: be a really incredible mentor for her, and Meghan rejected
Speaker 21: the offer and said she had Prince Harry and she
Speaker 21: didn't need any help when it came to navigating in
Speaker 21: royal life. And I don't know how familiar familiar you
Speaker 21: are with you know, Dutchess Sophie and Prince Edward's history.
Speaker 21: But they tried to do the half in, half out,
Speaker 21: they got in a little bit of trouble. They pivoted,
Speaker 21: they went full into the royal world and now they're
Speaker 21: superstars in the fold. So these were the perfect people
Speaker 21: to mentor Harry and Meghan because they've lived it, they've
Speaker 21: experienced it. So these stories now just circulating thanks to
Speaker 21: some books that are coming out and some books that
Speaker 21: have been released. But you know, it just goes to
Speaker 21: show Meghan had help. She wasn't completely turned away, She
Speaker 21: was offered the help that she claims that she wasn't.
Speaker 2: Now there are rumors flying that Justin Bieber's marriage is
Speaker 2: in trouble. His wife Haley has added field of the
Speaker 2: fire by ditching her wadding ring. She has been spotted
Speaker 2: a couple of times now without her wedding ring.
Speaker 21: While out in New Yorkinsey look I love this couple,
Speaker 21: but I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 3: Something feels off.
Speaker 21: Haley has been spotted without her wedding ring justin social media.
Speaker 3: Presence has been.
Speaker 21: Increasingly erratic, and while they've recently welcomed the baby, that
Speaker 21: doesn't necessarily guarantee stability. Sometimes it adds more pressure. Divorce
Speaker 21: rumors might be premature, but the optics certainly aren't helping
Speaker 21: silence the speculation. I'm rooting for them, but between this
Speaker 21: and Bieber's social media activity, I am a little concerned.
Speaker 2: The actor Johnny Depp has said that he was a
Speaker 2: crash test dummy for the Me Too movement during his
Speaker 2: infamous defamation trial against ex wife and the Herdkinsey claims
Speaker 2: people close to.
Speaker 3: Him did him dirty. What's he talking.
Speaker 21: About, Well, look, Johnny Depp calling himself a crash test
Speaker 21: dummy during the Me Too era isn't just self pity.
Speaker 21: It's his way of saying he was one of the
Speaker 21: first men to be publicly dismantled then slowly rebuilt in
Speaker 21: front of the world. The difference is he fought back.
Speaker 21: The trial with Amber heard wasn't just about defamation. It
Speaker 21: was about reputation, resurrection and somehow he walked away with
Speaker 21: the public more sympathetic to him than her. It's one
Speaker 21: of the few times we've seen someone not just survive
Speaker 21: cancer culture but flipped the script entirely, entirely.
Speaker 3: But look, he's saying, I.
Speaker 21: Lost some friends and I'm not going to forgive him,
Speaker 21: and who can blame.
Speaker 3: Well, Yes, I mean he treated that trial like a.
Speaker 6: Role.
Speaker 2: He was very entertaining, he was very likable, and I
Speaker 2: think she just made some major miscalculations about how she
Speaker 2: was being perceived by ordinary people. Now Jesse Smollett, actor
Speaker 2: and race crime hoaxer Jesse Smillett, is apparently engaged to
Speaker 2: fellow actor Jabbari Read.
Speaker 3: Is this a real engagement, kin Zie or another hoax?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 21: Right, the engagement. It comes more than six years after
Speaker 21: Smollett was accused of staging a hate crime against himself
Speaker 21: in twenty nineteen. He claimed at the time that he
Speaker 21: was attacked by men who yelled homophone mix slurs at
Speaker 21: him in Chicago. Sources say Jesse Smollett is planning a
Speaker 21: private wedding just family, close friends and two imaginary attackers
Speaker 21: and ski masks.
Speaker 2: Now, before you go, the wedding planners for Jeff Bezos
Speaker 2: and Laurence Sanchez have come to their defense. The couple
Speaker 2: of Bean getting all sorts of abuse from locals in
Speaker 2: Venice who I'm not happy with their wedding plans. Why
Speaker 2: the Italians stops it about this Skinsey.
Speaker 21: Well, there are rumors that I do think are kind
Speaker 21: of ridiculous that like all of the gondolas are going
Speaker 21: to be taken up, that they're taking over a huge piece,
Speaker 21: you know, parts of the city that they're saying they're not.
Speaker 21: Their wedding planners have come out and said, look, from
Speaker 21: the get go, we've come out, We've donated to charities,
Speaker 21: local charities, We've donated to local charities in the name
Speaker 21: of some of the famous wedding guests like Oprah Winfree,
Speaker 21: Leonardo DiCaprio, Kim Kardashian, Barbara streisand Avoka Trump. And they've said,
Speaker 21: we've made it our mission throughout this process not to
Speaker 21: negatively affect the locals. In fact, they're using eighty percent
Speaker 21: local vendors. But I mean, I think that this is
Speaker 21: what you just have to expect when you bring in
Speaker 21: This is going to be a huge Hollywood production with
Speaker 21: a listers all over the place they were going to
Speaker 21: get this work. They could have done it in Ohio
Speaker 21: and there would have been people livid that they had
Speaker 21: had the audacity to do it at Ohio.
Speaker 3: Oh I think it's going to be a very classy affair.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 2: I think this is a case where money does not
Speaker 2: buy class. I'm very interested to know about the prenuptial agreement.
Speaker 2: We're going to get through all of that in your
Speaker 2: future appearances. Kinzisko, thank you so much for your time tonight,
Speaker 2: and that's all the time I've got. I'll see you
Speaker 2: at eleven tomorrow night. Don't go anywhere Near's night is
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