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Speaker 1: What Kamala Harris is getting straight to the point and
Speaker 1: directly answering the question when.
Speaker 2: It comes to the economy, do you believe Americans are
Speaker 2: better off than they were four years ago?
Speaker 3: So I was raised as a middle class kid.
Speaker 4: We talked about bringing down prices and making life more
Speaker 4: affordable for people.
Speaker 5: What are one or two specific things you have in
Speaker 5: mind for that?
Speaker 3: Well, I'll start with this, I grew up a middle
Speaker 3: class kid.
Speaker 6: They can just get their foot in the door to
Speaker 6: be able to then engage in what will prove to
Speaker 6: be their opportunity to build intergenerational wealth. And here's my
Speaker 6: personal experience coming at that, I grew up a middle
Speaker 6: class kid.
Speaker 7: Being a middle class kid is the perfect answer for
Speaker 7: every question. But what about her running mate?
Speaker 8: Let's start with inflation.
Speaker 9: What do you tell people who wake up frankly each
Speaker 9: morning wondering how am I going to get by financially?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 10: I tell them, Kamo Harrison, I know something about it.
Speaker 10: And being middle class folks. Our family sit at the
Speaker 10: table trying to pay the bill.
Speaker 11: Still, I guess you know, as a middle class kid myself,
Speaker 11: I have to admire Kamala's strategic thinking. I mean, surely
Speaker 11: the typical black female voter is going to fall for this,
Speaker 11: aren't they.
Speaker 12: When you're asked about the border or your policies on immigration,
Speaker 12: answer the question. We don't care about your middle class upbringing.
Speaker 12: We don't care that your mama had to save up
Speaker 12: to my house. We don't care about your summer job
Speaker 12: at McDonald's. We don't care about the lawns of the
Speaker 12: neighborhood that you lived in and how everybody took care
Speaker 12: of their lawn. That does not matter to me, and
Speaker 12: it doesn't matter to anybody else. I want you to
Speaker 12: answer the question.
Speaker 1: Looks looks like even if you're Kamala Harris, you can't
Speaker 1: actually fool all of the people all of the time,
Speaker 1: or even some of the time.
Speaker 4: So while Kamala struggles with her.
Speaker 1: Middle class credentials, let's grab the latest Outsiders news.
Speaker 4: Well Richa and James.
Speaker 1: I was delighted to see Anthony Albanize wandering around America.
Speaker 4: With some blokes his old bloke. He's obviously helping.
Speaker 1: And I must have found die lying there under the
Speaker 1: Washington Monument or something.
Speaker 4: Decided to give him a hand. Let's have a look
Speaker 4: at the footage.
Speaker 5: Here we are?
Speaker 4: Where are we?
Speaker 10: Ah?
Speaker 13: Okay, what's an opportunity for me to express my support
Speaker 13: and congratulations for the role that President Biden has played.
Speaker 13: He has been a good friend of Australia, but he's
Speaker 13: also been an advocate for the rule of law. History
Speaker 13: will record President Biden has been a driver of a
Speaker 13: very successful period in US foreign policy.
Speaker 1: So that's the official line. But let's have a look
Speaker 1: at Albo enjoying himself. As I said in the company
Speaker 1: he keeps here, he is wandering around. Oh, sorry, my mistake.
Speaker 1: It's Kevin right there we go, Je. What do we
Speaker 1: make of it?
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, so of course you know Albanize. He is
Speaker 11: in Washington and they were having the Orcust talks in
Speaker 11: Delaware this week at the Albanese he was so keen
Speaker 11: by the way to make sure everybody knew that he
Speaker 11: was only going to be there for one day, that
Speaker 11: this wasn't a big you know, airbus Albo gallivant here,
Speaker 11: I thought the clip that we played of him speaking
Speaker 11: a moment ago was absolutely fascinating. Can you imagine how
Speaker 11: uncomfortable Ethny Halbanesi would have been speaking in front of
Speaker 11: not one, but what looked like two or three Australian flags.
Speaker 11: There was no straight you know, I think somebody, nobody
Speaker 11: in protocol if the embassy is going to get a
Speaker 11: talking to. But seriously, though, you know, it's interesting here
Speaker 11: because this August thing has really kind of gone out
Speaker 11: of Labor's control now, and it's interesting to be here
Speaker 11: how they've now got people on the left within Labor
Speaker 11: who are now making a lot of noises against Aucust.
Speaker 11: You've got people in the Greens who can't stand it.
Speaker 11: And yet at the same time, you know, we're in
Speaker 11: this incredibly powerless position here. The only criticism that is
Speaker 11: correct about Aucust is that it is not going to
Speaker 11: get us the sort of weaponry we need now anywhere
Speaker 11: near fast enough. And this government is completely dithering when
Speaker 11: it comes to defense procurement.
Speaker 1: Also dithering razor in terms of not actually bothering to
Speaker 1: visit Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: So here we have a but.
Speaker 7: He did express to Joe Biden his concern it's about
Speaker 7: the attempts on Donald Trump's life. So that's good, that's good.
Speaker 7: But there's a meeting with Joe Biden at his private
Speaker 7: home in Delaware. Why the man, what is Joe Biden
Speaker 7: still president?
Speaker 1: Is he seems to be the only person in the
Speaker 1: world he thinks he is.
Speaker 7: This is no one in America is even looking at
Speaker 7: just Joe Biden as the one who's running the country
Speaker 7: because everyone knows that he was so inepso cognitively impaired.
Speaker 7: Kamal are installed in.
Speaker 11: Is al but Easy really the one running Australia and
Speaker 11: very good, very good.
Speaker 1: Well, I was the reason I wanted to look at
Speaker 1: that footage of Rads and Albo wandering around Rita and
Speaker 1: James was of course Alban Easy said, I know I'm
Speaker 1: not going to I'm not going to bother visiting Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Reminds me of Malcolm Turnbull, who had a similar point
Speaker 1: in the election cycle back in two thousand and sixteen.
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to bother visiting Donald Trump. But
Speaker 1: I've thought this man there on the left where Kevin
Speaker 1: Rudd was, was Donald Trump's great new mate.
Speaker 7: I thought trying.
Speaker 4: I thought Kevin Rudd had had the key Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: Marra Lago.
Speaker 7: I don't think mister Trump is going to be forgiving
Speaker 7: or forgetting the things Kevin rud has said. It's very
Speaker 7: ill advised. Indeed, is what happens when you've got people
Speaker 7: who've grown up with student politics and really never left
Speaker 7: student politics. They're these mad idea logues. And Albert, let's
Speaker 7: not forget socialist left faction of the labor parties, not
Speaker 7: just Labor. He's hard left labor. And we're talking here
Speaker 7: about the man who's likely to be president again, and
Speaker 7: you don't want him to have ill will towards the
Speaker 7: Prime Minister or the Ambassador or Penny Wong or anyone
Speaker 7: else who's in a position of power within the government.
Speaker 11: Well, and you know, it's also important to note that
Speaker 11: just with all of his talk about ocus and defeat,
Speaker 11: here just how dangerous a Harris presidency would be, I
Speaker 11: think for Australia, because if you look at the history
Speaker 11: of Democrat administrations over the last twenty years, they have
Speaker 11: been incredibly chaotic on the foreign policy front. You know,
Speaker 11: under Obama we had the Arab Spring and all of
Speaker 11: that disaster. Under Biden we've had Iran and Ukraine and
Speaker 11: October seventh all of these due to democrat weakness. And
Speaker 11: then if you start to extend that to the Pacific,
Speaker 11: which of course where the next obvious hotspot is for
Speaker 11: authoritarian countries like China to start making their play against
Speaker 11: you know, what they see as a declining, weakening American empire,
Speaker 11: then Australia is absolutely in the frame. And so to
Speaker 11: be acting like, you know, Trump's not a good thing
Speaker 11: for Australia, I think is disastrously wrongheaded.
Speaker 8: Absolutely well.
Speaker 1: This drives me mad when these so called conservative commentators say, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: we don't approve that Donald Trump, and blah blah blah.
Speaker 7: But I do, like Rowan, that you do touch on
Speaker 7: this Trump derangement syndrome that's evident, and not just amongst
Speaker 7: the CNNs, the ABC's over here, but amongst some normally
Speaker 7: saying conservative commentators who have just swallowed this nonsensical narrative
Speaker 7: from the Russian collusion hoax to the Fine People hoax,
Speaker 7: they just swallowed all up uncritically and make absolute fools
Speaker 7: of themselves over and over again. If you don't understand
Speaker 7: US politics, don't talk about US politics. That would be
Speaker 7: my advice.
Speaker 4: If you don't understand the Donald Trump phenomenon.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm the eternal optimist, and I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: this time. Well only a few months away when we
Speaker 1: will have Donald Trump in the White House and we
Speaker 1: will have Peter Dutton in the lodge, and Kevin Right
Speaker 1: can go back to the Sunshine Coast and wait for
Speaker 1: the oceans to rise from his beachfront, pat so he
Speaker 1: can look forward to doing that.
Speaker 7: Is he still in the ocean front there?
Speaker 1: Of course he is, of course over in wasting very
Speaker 1: nice part of it. He's taking tourists around Washington at
Speaker 1: the moment.
Speaker 4: So good luck to Kevin Right. But you know, important
Speaker 4: six months coming out.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about closer to home, Sydney University,
Speaker 1: Mark Scott, the bloke around the ABC. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think of polite words to say about Mark
Speaker 1: Scott's tenure of.
Speaker 4: The ABC, but words fail me on this instance.
Speaker 1: Mark Scott has come out and he apologized to Jewish
Speaker 1: students for his failure at over the last you know,
Speaker 1: nine months, at the demonstrations and so on. The deals
Speaker 1: that were done by Sydney University to allow Muslim groups
Speaker 1: to have a say and a committee over what the
Speaker 1: university invests in et cetera, et cetera, to the point
Speaker 1: where Jewish students felt un So. If Mark Scott has
Speaker 1: comportant said he apologizes for his failure, well, Mark Scott,
Speaker 1: nobody in the left seems to understand the idea of responsibility.
Speaker 4: You have apologized for the failure.
Speaker 1: That apology literally means nothing unless you resign. That's what accountability.
Speaker 1: That's why you earn the big bucks to sit at
Speaker 1: the top. You earn a million dollar salary at the
Speaker 1: top the food chain. If you fail at Sydney University,
Speaker 1: you should be punted from Sydney University. Like the students
Speaker 1: who fail are punted, so too should the vice chancellor
Speaker 1: be punted for this chronic failure.
Speaker 7: Rita, I tend to agree, and I think the apology
Speaker 7: for words for that too little, too late. This has
Speaker 7: been going for close to a year. You've had encampments,
Speaker 7: you have had this open hostility, You've had students being intimidated.
Speaker 7: We had students being spat on at these meetings who
Speaker 7: are trying to say that we shouldn't be anti Israel,
Speaker 7: that we should not judge Israel by different standards to
Speaker 7: every other country. It's interesting James that the Education Minister
Speaker 7: Jason Clair has declined to say whether he has confidence
Speaker 7: in this discussion.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I know, we're not even we're not even getting
Speaker 11: the typical you know, the coach has the false port
Speaker 11: of the Board of Commentary on that. But I will
Speaker 11: say this one other interesting point which I think people
Speaker 11: are missing in this, and there is a common thread
Speaker 11: here between Mark Scott's tenure at the ABC at his
Speaker 11: tenure at UCID, and that is this weakness and his
Speaker 11: desire or basically you know, inability to take control of
Speaker 11: the reins and instead let the inmates run the asylum.
Speaker 11: You know, at the ABC, it's been all about constantly
Speaker 11: this staff run collective there. That has gotten the ABC
Speaker 11: into a huge amount of trouble, just even this week
Speaker 11: with the audio that was added to the heston Russell
Speaker 11: aportsoun war crimes that they finally dropped out at four
Speaker 11: point thirty or so on Friday afternoon a statement say
Speaker 11: oh all right, well maybe there is something wrong and
Speaker 11: we're to do an investigation. So that's great sort of
Speaker 11: tricky media management there form the ABC. Back to Mark Scott,
Speaker 11: you read the reports and you read what he said
Speaker 11: about all of this. You know, New South Wales police
Speaker 11: guys offered to come in and clear the encampment, but
Speaker 11: he didn't want to, in his words, escalate the situation.
Speaker 11: And I'm sorry second right there, this is this is
Speaker 11: exactly the mentality that lets these sorts of encampments fester.
Speaker 11: And when you don't assert your authority and say, you
Speaker 11: know what, this is a university. This is not a
Speaker 11: place where we just let people hang out like a
Speaker 11: bunch of ferals and do this funeral serals this propo.
Speaker 7: Probably, But can I just say if it was a
Speaker 7: group of extreme right wing protests set up an encampment,
Speaker 7: do you think Mark Scott would say, well, I don't
Speaker 7: want to inflame tensions. I don't want to upset them
Speaker 7: and have things escalate. No note to the police coming
Speaker 7: in at the first hint, there would be full force
Speaker 7: of the law private security of New South Wales Police.
Speaker 7: It'd probably be calling the Fenzi.
Speaker 11: These are there the same New South Wales police by
Speaker 11: the way, offering to clear that out. Who you know,
Speaker 11: I mean they were so sick with the other The
Speaker 11: same cops that that on October eighth or ninth, whenever
Speaker 11: it had that horrible demonstration down at the Opera House
Speaker 11: just stood back because they didn't want to escalate. And
Speaker 11: this is the crisis of authority, the crisis of authority
Speaker 11: in our society where the cups don't want to do
Speaker 11: what needs to be done, when the administrators don't do
Speaker 11: what needs to be done, and then you just let
Speaker 11: badness run a buck.
Speaker 4: When it starts at it starts at the top.
Speaker 1: And Donald Trump made the point in the debate with
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris about the Democrats never fire anybody. And this
Speaker 1: is the point the problem here, both with the coalition.
Speaker 4: And with labor. They never fire anybody.
Speaker 1: And the point is that you can only run if
Speaker 1: you've ever run a business.
Speaker 4: The people who.
Speaker 1: Don't do as well as the people who are successful,
Speaker 1: you fire the ones who are no good.
Speaker 4: Scott should be fired.
Speaker 1: There are any number of public servants who should be
Speaker 1: fired for not having done a good job. There are
Speaker 1: any number of heads of commissions that should be fired
Speaker 1: for not having done a good job. And until the
Speaker 1: coalition gets into government and actually finally stands up and
Speaker 1: does this and starts cleaning a place.
Speaker 4: Out firing people.
Speaker 1: I spoke to Angus Taylor last week, had a great
Speaker 1: meeting there at Roseville, and Angus Taylor was making the
Speaker 1: point that his first day as a new treasure would
Speaker 1: be to fire a lot of the public servants that
Speaker 1: haven't done a great job, and.
Speaker 4: This is we need the government to do this.
Speaker 7: Can I express some doubt there?
Speaker 14: Well?
Speaker 7: Multiple terms of a coalition, coalition, governments in power and
Speaker 7: what did they actually do to tackle this in the bureaucracy?
Speaker 8: I agree with you.
Speaker 4: Did they think.
Speaker 7: About the ABC? The ABC? They whine about it incessantly.
Speaker 7: The funding's gone up more than a billion dollars per
Speaker 7: annum for this activist organization that breaches its charter daily.
Speaker 7: What did the coalition do about it other than coming
Speaker 7: sky and whine about it?
Speaker 4: Given them time. They need to be held on account.
Speaker 1: They need to be held to that commitment to start
Speaker 1: firing people who don't do a good job and firing
Speaker 1: the number of.
Speaker 7: Acts like labor in power? What if you say about labor?
Speaker 7: And yes they're inept and they got some mad ideas,
Speaker 7: but they don't waste power from day won't They push
Speaker 7: their agenda and that's what you want when you vote.
Speaker 11: You know what they do. They know how to organize,
Speaker 11: and they know how to put their people in key.
Speaker 5: Positions exactly, and then they never had them.
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about the Another sackable offensive, course, was
Speaker 1: the absolute chamuzzle over visas asio being called in as
Speaker 1: I understand it, James. So the Albanezy government rushed out,
Speaker 1: gave everyone the visas and then said, oh, hang on,
Speaker 1: shall we bother.
Speaker 5: The checking.
Speaker 4: All these people? Hello, fireable offense in my book, So
Speaker 4: I mean, like.
Speaker 11: This is the whole thing, this is just a schedule.
Speaker 11: Peter Dutt nailed it in Parliament the other week. What
Speaker 11: he was calling it a visas for vote skin, you know,
Speaker 11: and the whole thing. Nobody there was no ground swell
Speaker 11: in the community saying hey, you know we've got to do.
Speaker 11: We've got to bring thousands of Palacedians over from Gaza
Speaker 11: into Australia. And yet what do they do. They did
Speaker 11: exactly that, and they did this in this really tricky way.
Speaker 11: They gave outas, which like tourist visas, essentially to get
Speaker 11: them here. Once you get them here, they cannot basically
Speaker 11: be kicked out because when there's a file asylum claims
Speaker 11: of the I think thirteen hundred that have been brought
Speaker 11: in something like eight hundred and nine hundred have already
Speaker 11: filed their humanitarian claims. This means essentially they're here forever now.
Speaker 11: Those checks sittings, they did a lot of them after
Speaker 11: the fact of this, which of course goes to the
Speaker 11: whole lie of what they've been saying. This is all
Speaker 11: about Tony Burke propping up his seat and other Western
Speaker 11: Sydney and a couple of seats in Melbourne seats with
Speaker 11: a high Muslim population and try and shore off some
Speaker 11: of these threats that they've got, these Muslim independent groups.
Speaker 11: But this is playing games with our security because we
Speaker 11: also know that in Gaza, you know, huge numbers of
Speaker 11: people in October seventh they support Hamas. Why take that
Speaker 11: RISKTA It's.
Speaker 7: A self inflicted word in this one. We've spoken about
Speaker 7: it repeatedly. No other Western country has behaved as Australia has,
Speaker 7: and that should tell you plenty. We've got a lot
Speaker 7: of elbow types in power around the world and they
Speaker 7: are more cautious than Alba has been. And I don't
Speaker 7: think it's actually going to work ensuring up these seats.
Speaker 7: I don't think those voters who are upset with labor
Speaker 7: and think labor haven't gone far enough in expressing support
Speaker 7: for for the Palestinian cause, or haven't gone far enough
Speaker 7: in condemning Israel. Are going to be satisfied with a
Speaker 7: few thousand Palestinian refugees or asylum seekers being settled here.
Speaker 7: And as you said, the means of which they've done
Speaker 7: it through these temporary almost travel tourist visas. So it's
Speaker 7: the quickest way to get.
Speaker 11: And they admitted that that's that they want to do it.
Speaker 11: They said, that's the quickt way to get them in
Speaker 11: is just give them a visitor visa, you know, and
Speaker 11: that comes with very few checks and not even a
Speaker 11: palas in government in the sense of having like another
Speaker 11: government you hear check criminal record against.
Speaker 4: Well change, absolutely shameful.
Speaker 1: Alban easy government has been an absolute disgrace on this
Speaker 1: entire issue. Another thing that should be fired, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: a thing, not a person, is of course, the welcome
Speaker 1: to country. I've been banging on about this, We've been
Speaker 1: talking about this on this show since the.
Speaker 4: Voice obviously before.
Speaker 1: Welcome to country has become a ridiculous concept. Interestingly, it's
Speaker 1: now entered the public debate, which is what you tend
Speaker 1: to find to happen. Remember the formula outsiders first, six
Speaker 1: months later, the rest of the meetia, we're talking about it.
Speaker 4: That's the formula we like to stick to.
Speaker 15: Well now, several individuals have jumped in this weekend to
Speaker 15: discuss Welcome to Country, some for it, some against it,
Speaker 15: as is the proper way in any civilized democratic debate.
Speaker 4: Interestingly, enough of few Indigenous.
Speaker 1: Voices have come forward RITA saying we actually we agree
Speaker 1: the Welcome to Country has gone way too far.
Speaker 4: It is divisive now, it is divisive. It is not a.
Speaker 1: Friendly gesture any longer, as we saw the other weekend RITA.
Speaker 7: Yes, there's been all sorts of voices. Chris Kenny wrote
Speaker 7: a piece for the Australian newspaper which I'm interested in
Speaker 7: your thoughts about, But most interesting to me was former
Speaker 7: footballer Matthew Stokes, the Premiership player Indigenous man, and I
Speaker 7: thought he was very measured in his commentary about how
Speaker 7: divisive these ceremonies have become, how they can be hijacked
Speaker 7: by people pushing an agenda, and most importantly he made
Speaker 7: the point that he should be able to discuss this
Speaker 7: freely without being labeled a racist. And I think that's
Speaker 7: a massive jump forward because I remember when we first
Speaker 7: started talking about this issue years ago, years before the
Speaker 7: Voice on this program, it was almost taboo. It was
Speaker 7: almost taboo to say I'm sick and tired of being
Speaker 7: welcome to my own country. I find this divisive. I
Speaker 7: find it as a migrant offensive. I find it a
Speaker 7: PC way of saying, go back to where you came from.
Speaker 7: And now we are actually having the debate, and I
Speaker 7: think one of the positives out of the whole referendum
Speaker 7: debacle is that we got an answer from the from
Speaker 7: the Australian population about what they feel about these issues.
Speaker 4: That's the whole thing I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I'll just quickly say, regarding Chris Kenny's article, well, if
Speaker 1: Joan Bayers set it to music, she'd have a hit
Speaker 1: like Kumbai R. Because that's basically how it read to me.
Speaker 11: Well, I know it's an interesting I mean, like like
Speaker 11: one of the things too, you know, just to go
Speaker 11: back to the Voice. To me, the moment I knew
Speaker 11: that the No camp was going to absolutely ramp it
Speaker 11: in was when Marcia Langton said that if if the
Speaker 11: referendum doesn't get up, you know, you'll never be another welcome.
Speaker 11: You don you remember how after that there was this
Speaker 11: huge outpouring of people. It was like this damn broke
Speaker 11: and would saying can we get that in writing please?
Speaker 11: Is that a promise? Like?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 11: And that was what I knew, that the whole vibe
Speaker 11: and ship or that, I mean, you know. Chris Kenny
Speaker 11: makes the point. He says, well, it become just sort
Speaker 11: of like a part of the furniture, like a toast
Speaker 11: at a wedding or a speech and a birthday. But I've
Speaker 11: never been to a wedding or a birthday party where
Speaker 11: the toaster or the speech has told me that I
Speaker 11: don't have a steak in this country.
Speaker 4: Well, it's not the piece of furniture. It's the piece
Speaker 4: of furniture in the corner that you're waiting to put
Speaker 4: into the skip.
Speaker 1: Seriously, because it is divisive and it is aggressive, and
Speaker 1: the idea that it is somehow touchy feeling and all lovely,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't give me a warm, touchy feeling. And
Speaker 1: the acknowledgment the country, which is part and passerve the welcome.
Speaker 1: The acknowledgment of country is basically saying you do not
Speaker 1: own this land. It's saying to every single person who's
Speaker 1: got a mortgage, she struggles hard, pays the bank, their mortgage,
Speaker 1: goes out, gets a property, point builds, builds a house
Speaker 1: on it, has a family. It's saying every time everywhere
Speaker 1: you go, don't kid yourself. It ain't yours. You don't
Speaker 1: own it, This ain't yours. That's what acknowledgment of the
Speaker 1: country is literally really saying. It might not legally be
Speaker 1: saying it, but culturally and literally that is.
Speaker 11: What Here's That's why I object. Here's a much bigger
Speaker 11: point too. You know, we hear people talk all the time,
Speaker 11: guys about this sort of wille phrase social cohesion, right,
Speaker 11: you know, social cohesion. Well, I would just put it
Speaker 11: to you that we had a big problem here with
Speaker 11: this and it's going to get worse because we are
Speaker 11: also we've also had figures out this week about the
Speaker 11: net overseas migration and how this is just still remains
Speaker 11: at record record highs. And what are we doing to
Speaker 11: our social cohesion when people come here and we tell
Speaker 11: them not only keep doing and being whatever you were
Speaker 11: before you came over here, but also this place here
Speaker 11: is illegitimate and the government that brought you in and
Speaker 11: that you want to come in and you know, live
Speaker 11: and work out of this system here is kind of illegitimate,
Speaker 11: is kind of stolen. It's a bit on the nose.
Speaker 11: You know, this is going to encourage much more separatism
Speaker 11: across all of our communities because we're not giving people
Speaker 11: who come to this country. We should welcome people who
Speaker 11: come to this country, like so many people even on
Speaker 11: the stage here, but we have to give them something
Speaker 11: strong to believe in. And when you say welcome the country.
Speaker 11: You see this Australia thing process. It's the same thing
Speaker 11: with alban Easy and all the flags. There's one flag,
Speaker 11: there's one Australia, there's one idea, there's one people, and
Speaker 11: we should all be a part of that world.
Speaker 7: Well not when you are pushing notions like always was,
Speaker 7: always will be, sovereignty was never seeded. That we are
Speaker 7: on stolen land, that all of this is and it's
Speaker 7: all racially divisive. It's based on nothing other than race,
Speaker 7: and that's why the referendum was poisoned. That's why the
Speaker 7: overwhelming majority of Australians around sixty percent, in fact, it's
Speaker 7: a little bit over sixty percent, despite the massive amounts
Speaker 7: of money the Yes campaign had. Despite all the institutional support,
Speaker 7: the celebrities, the sporting clubs, the Australian people said no.
Speaker 7: And it's time the elite listen to that no, because
Speaker 7: they're just carrying on like that referendum never happened.
Speaker 4: And this is why they have to be taught again.
Speaker 1: And this is why the Coalition needs to take a
Speaker 1: strong aggressive policy to the election saying that we are
Speaker 1: going to scrap Welcome to countries from government ubiquitous. There's
Speaker 1: time and a place for it, obviously, especially Indigenous celebrations
Speaker 1: and so on, as there are for any other number
Speaker 1: of not before football, not before football matches.
Speaker 4: There are all sorts of appropriate occasions.
Speaker 1: But the Coalition needs to go forward with Peter Dutton
Speaker 1: with just Center Price next to him and say we
Speaker 1: will be scrapping Welcome to countries from government from ubiquitous
Speaker 1: government bodies if we win parliament, if we win government,
Speaker 1: which they will do. And after the break, let's say
Speaker 1: a break Breta's reality Check.
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Speaker 3: There is a almost a cultish vibe.
Speaker 16: I feel the way they operate within themselves.
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Speaker 17: I don't understand why it's so difficult for the press
Speaker 17: to have a consistent narrative about how dangerous Trump is.
Speaker 7: Well, the object in this case.
Speaker 17: Is Donald Trump, his demagoguery, his danger to our country
Speaker 17: in the world.
Speaker 18: Drum two days and we are turned the bay?
Speaker 4: Why Donald Trump?
Speaker 7: Did she realize they're in power? Did you realize it's
Speaker 7: the Biden Harris administration? There right now? She's terrifying that one.
Speaker 7: That's the crazy wife of Tim Wolls, Gwen Wolls. Kamala
Speaker 7: Harris's running mate Tim Woles, who today was telling Americans
Speaker 7: that they cannot have four more years of this craziness.
Speaker 19: We can't afford, we can't afford four more years of this.
Speaker 7: Oh is right, No one could afford four more years
Speaker 7: of the Democrats. I guess he's campaigning for Donald Trump now.
Speaker 7: But before we bring in our next guest, let's have
Speaker 7: a look at what's been happening in Victoria this week,
Speaker 7: with Bombshaw Revelations publishing The Herald Sign after a review
Speaker 7: of the Daniel and Catherine Andrews car crash found Victoria
Speaker 7: police engaged in an overt cover up to avoid implicating
Speaker 7: a political figure in a life threatening incident. This is
Speaker 7: after the Andrews su suv had struck a teenage cyclist,
Speaker 7: Ryan Mullman, seriously injuring him. The explosive thirty six page
Speaker 7: assessment by former police Assistant Commissioner doctor Raymond Suey, commissioned
Speaker 7: by mister Melman's lawyers as part of the Supreme Court
Speaker 7: proceedings against the law firm who acted for him in
Speaker 7: relation to the crash, asserts that the Andrews family suv
Speaker 7: was traveling at speed and on the wrong side of
Speaker 7: the road when it struck Ryan in bleir Gowry back
Speaker 7: in I think it was two thousand and thirteen. I
Speaker 7: could have the date wrong there. I'll come back to
Speaker 7: that now. For the record, Dan and Catherine Andrews have
Speaker 7: dismissed this report and said in a joint statement this
Speaker 7: week we did nothing wrong. This matter or has already
Speaker 7: been comprehensively and independently investigated and closed by Victoria Police
Speaker 7: and integrity agencies. In doctor Schuey's review, Victoria Police committed
Speaker 7: more than a dozen inexcusable breaches of standard operating procedures.
Speaker 7: This deepening scandal in golfing the former premier and Victoria
Speaker 7: Police threatens to further undermine the public's trust in the
Speaker 7: Victorian justice system. It's almost impossible to look at the
Speaker 7: numerous breaches without concluding that a plan was executed by
Speaker 7: members of Victoria Police to subvert the law and to
Speaker 7: minimize any scrutiny of or adverse consequences for Daniel and
Speaker 7: Catherine Andrews. One cannot simply assume grossing competence is behind
Speaker 7: these serious breaches of standard police operating procedures, such as
Speaker 7: failing to breathalyze the driver when those failures are compounded
Speaker 7: by deceptive and misleading conduct in falsely claiming a breath
Speaker 7: test was conducted and was negative. There must be a
Speaker 7: resolution to this saga that restores the public's faith in
Speaker 7: the police force, and that can only come if there
Speaker 7: is clarity around precisely what happened and at who's behest.
Speaker 7: This scandal is so deep and consequential that it calls
Speaker 7: for an extraordinary response. Police officers involved in any wrongdoing
Speaker 7: should be granted full immunity to blow the whistle on
Speaker 7: this sorry episode. Victorians deserve to know the truth. We
Speaker 7: want to be able to trust our police and know
Speaker 7: that they're not complicit in breaking laws to protect the
Speaker 7: rich or the powerful. Twenty thirteen, We.
Speaker 1: Never doubted you for a second, your absolutely spot on
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Speaker 4: And did you mention that show of yours? I did
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Speaker 7: But no, no, that report wasn't mine. Michael Warner was
Speaker 7: the one behind that and he has really done astonishing
Speaker 7: work in revealing it's a hell.
Speaker 8: Of a story that.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: will be speaking at Seapack in two weeks time. Matt,
Speaker 1: great to see you, looking forward to seeing you at Seapack.
Speaker 1: It's going to be an amazing weekend.
Speaker 4: You'll be there. Lots of great people there, lots of
Speaker 4: great speakers and of course outsiders.
Speaker 1: Live Matt misinformation though I'm sure we'll be talking a
Speaker 1: lot about that at Seapack, and I don't want you
Speaker 1: to give away your address to Seapack. But this Combating
Speaker 1: Misinformation and Disinformation.
Speaker 4: Bill, this is the new big issue.
Speaker 1: I believe that Australians really need strong leadership.
Speaker 4: From the Coalition on tell us what you guys are.
Speaker 20: Doing well, James ol Be there, look forward to seeing
Speaker 20: you in Queensland in Brisbane, and I think courage everyone
Speaker 20: to get along because who knows, this might be the
Speaker 20: last time we can have see you back. I mean,
Speaker 20: the government's pretty committed here to silencing us.
Speaker 8: To gaging us, so get along this time and use
Speaker 8: your free speech while you still have it.
Speaker 20: I mean, I think it's remarkable what's going on in
Speaker 20: this country that we have a government seeking to silence
Speaker 20: its own citizens. And that's what this is about. This bill,
Speaker 20: this so called misinformation Bill. It's not about stopping governments.
Speaker 20: It's not about stopping journalists, not about stopping the mainstream
Speaker 20: media or the financial sector from telling you lies. It's
Speaker 20: about silencing you. What it's about. In fact, the bill exempts.
Speaker 20: It exempts our public health overlords and how many lies
Speaker 20: did they engage in during the last few years. It
Speaker 20: exempts our banks who have been found to be defrauding
Speaker 20: the istral public time and time again over the last decades.
Speaker 20: And it exempts mainstream media as well. It's not there
Speaker 20: to protect you from any kind of misleading information. It's
Speaker 20: there to protect the powerful. It's there to protect them
Speaker 20: from you who may have the TAMERI to uncover the
Speaker 20: lies that we're often told by the powerful people in
Speaker 20: our countries. So we have a long cherished I think
Speaker 20: history is Australians and thumbing our nose to authority and
Speaker 20: we need to defend it on mass here.
Speaker 8: So get along to seatback.
Speaker 20: In terms of coalition, well where a lot of us
Speaker 20: are fighting against this, so I've been very vocal about it.
Speaker 20: The Shadow Minister had a very good David Coleman had
Speaker 20: a very good column in your paper, James, the Daily
Speaker 20: Telegraph this week saying the Coalition does not support the
Speaker 20: bill and we've got to go through our own processes
Speaker 20: as well, but I'm confident we will come out hard
Speaker 20: against this it's not something we've proposed, and we'll fight
Speaker 20: it to the death in the Senate.
Speaker 11: James, Well, Matt, one of the things that you talk
Speaker 11: about and you see in this bill when you go
Speaker 11: through it is that, you know, beyond the free speech issue,
Speaker 11: this really creates two tiers of Australians. You've got a
Speaker 11: protected class who can see what they want, and you've
Speaker 11: got everybody else. Everybody else will have their speech policed,
Speaker 11: not directly by the government by this, but by big tech.
Speaker 11: Will be a rate of fines, so they become this
Speaker 11: imprivate enforcer. And what we want is the danger here
Speaker 11: really that you wind up with these protected classes seeing
Speaker 11: things that can be completely wrong, like we've seen during
Speaker 11: the pandemic, like we've seen during other things, and yet
Speaker 11: nobody can question them because it's this self reinforcing cycle
Speaker 11: of bad information being repeated by people who are officially
Speaker 11: trusted and unquestionable.
Speaker 8: That's right, that's right, James.
Speaker 20: I mean, I think what's happened here is that those
Speaker 20: that would like to craft and design the public narratives
Speaker 20: that we all march behind have been shocked in the
Speaker 20: last few years that in fact they can't control what
Speaker 20: people think that, in fact, thanks to the rise of
Speaker 20: social media, that sometimes laws are exposed very very quickly,
Speaker 20: and we saw that in an accelerated form during the
Speaker 20: COVID pandemic, where it was an explicit strategy of some
Speaker 20: public health officials two lighter people so that they could
Speaker 20: increase compliance.
Speaker 8: With their dictates.
Speaker 20: And deed, Anthony Fauci admitted that he admitted that he
Speaker 20: lied about the effectiveness of masks because he wanted to
Speaker 20: try and encourage uptake. I'm sure we don't have a
Speaker 20: direct evidence of this, but clearly public health officials downplayed
Speaker 20: the side effects of vaccines. Vaccines like Astrazeneka, which has
Speaker 20: now delisted, they downplayed that in an attempt to try
Speaker 20: and boost uptake. Now they think they're going by admirable goals,
Speaker 20: but I think it's really really dangerous to give a
Speaker 20: select group within our country special rights to tell us
Speaker 20: what to believe, even if they're telling knowing lies, because
Speaker 20: they're exempt from that, exempt from this bill. They're the
Speaker 20: ones engaging in misinformation. I mean, the government is the
Speaker 20: biggest spread of misinformation. We've got a Prime minister in
Speaker 20: there right now who told us we would get lower
Speaker 20: power bills by two.
Speaker 8: Hundred and seventy five dollars. There'll be no sanction for
Speaker 8: him under this bill.
Speaker 20: It'll only be the average Joe in Australia, Joe and
Speaker 20: Jill in Australia who face a gag from their own government.
Speaker 8: It's a disgraceful in any democracy.
Speaker 7: You mentioned admirable goals, and the government is trying to
Speaker 7: sell this on the basis of safety. They're doing it
Speaker 7: for our own good. They want us to shut up
Speaker 7: for our own good. What's your response to that strategy?
Speaker 7: Because it worked very effectively during COVID people were just
Speaker 7: lining up to be oppressed. They wanted more and more
Speaker 7: of it. So do you think it's actually going to
Speaker 7: bamboozle people who perhaps aren't aware of the depths of
Speaker 7: this issue that may not be active on social media,
Speaker 7: They don't understand just how or welly in it all is.
Speaker 8: Yeah, look, it's a good point, Rader.
Speaker 20: I mean, I think the COVID pandemic was horrible for
Speaker 20: many people, but the silver lining is that a lot
Speaker 20: of people have worken up. A lot of people saw
Speaker 20: the person behind the curtain after it all washed up.
Speaker 20: And I don't think the Australia people are going to
Speaker 20: be hoodwinked again here so soon at least, So of
Speaker 20: course there'll be a lot of claims here that this
Speaker 20: is to stop violent conduct, this is to stop child pornography,
Speaker 20: or this is to stop foreign state actors from influencing ourselves,
Speaker 20: when in fact.
Speaker 8: When you look at the bill, when you look at
Speaker 8: the government's.
Speaker 20: Own expontory documents, you uncover the lie here that's behind this.
Speaker 20: You uncover the fact that what they're concerned about is that,
Speaker 20: in their own words, false and misleading information about referendum proposals.
Speaker 20: That's what it says in the government's explanatory memorandum. And
Speaker 20: keep in mind those documents have legal force. When a
Speaker 20: court comes to interpret this law, they will refer back
Speaker 20: or can refer back to these explanatory documents. So the
Speaker 20: government says that effectively tells us all the reason they've
Speaker 20: got to do this is because they're still.
Speaker 8: Licking their wounds.
Speaker 20: They're humiliating loss in the voice referendum, where astrain people
Speaker 20: of a vast majority already say no to a government
Speaker 20: that just wanted to divide us by racing our constitution.
Speaker 20: They're still very very upset about that, and they say
Speaker 20: mass is a tool to stop such a humilating loss.
Speaker 1: Again, Matt, the key point with the Voice, The reason
Speaker 1: the Voice lost is because the Coalition was absolutely single
Speaker 1: minded in its opposition to It. Took a while to
Speaker 1: get there, Rita and James and I argued about that
Speaker 1: a lot at the time, but they got there to
Speaker 1: an absolutely crystal clear no position.
Speaker 4: No qualifications, no ifs and buts.
Speaker 1: My concern, Matt is that there are mixed messages coming
Speaker 1: out of the Coalition on this misinformation and disinformation, such as,
Speaker 1: for example, playing foot seas with the E Safety Commissioner,
Speaker 1: who should be sacked along with so many other public servants.
Speaker 4: This idea of banning social media.
Speaker 1: For some kids and not other kids, or whatever it
Speaker 1: is certain age groups. Why can't the Coalition take an
Speaker 1: unequivocal position saying that they support free speech and that
Speaker 1: means supporting free speech in all its manifestations, not just
Speaker 1: some of them.
Speaker 20: That well, I take some issue there with you, Row
Speaker 20: and I can't. I haven't seen an example of a
Speaker 20: Coalition member of Parliament giving any support to this misinformation bill.
Speaker 20: That this is the final version or the table parliamentary
Speaker 20: version of an exposure draft last year, and we fought
Speaker 20: the exposure draft very strongly. Now keep in mind we
Speaker 20: haven't met as a group since the bill was tabled
Speaker 20: on the last day of the sitting week, the last
Speaker 20: House of Representative sitting week, so we haven't been able
Speaker 20: to consider it as a group. And so that's why
Speaker 20: I suppose it's not the official media release, so to speak,
Speaker 20: becaus I said a shadow minsis has been very strong
Speaker 20: in it. I'm sure we will come out against it,
Speaker 20: and I do think this is very different from the
Speaker 20: issues around whether young children should have social media, even
Speaker 20: different from at least the original objective of the Safety Commissioner,
Speaker 20: which was about bullying of young people and child pornography
Speaker 20: and the like. Obviously there needs to be regulatory standards
Speaker 20: around that type of conduct, but this is not about
Speaker 20: that at all, and I do think you'll find a
Speaker 20: very an equivocal view about this from the Coalition. I'll
Speaker 20: certainly be fighting for that.
Speaker 8: I should take the other thing.
Speaker 20: I don't think I appreciate your compliments to the culition
Speaker 20: about the voice result, but I don't think it was
Speaker 20: just us. I mean, we did help, but it was
Speaker 20: the thousands upon thousands of Australian sharing things on social media,
Speaker 20: having conversations with people, so everybody watching today can have
Speaker 20: that influence. There's been a remarkable reaction on social media
Speaker 20: to some of the things I've been doing and others
Speaker 20: have been doing on this bill. So we need your
Speaker 20: help too. It's not just a don't just rely on
Speaker 20: politicians to save you. That's not a winning strategy in
Speaker 20: my experience.
Speaker 8: Reason No.
Speaker 7: I know Matt is sticking up for the Coalition there,
Speaker 7: but we have seen some very confused commentary around the
Speaker 7: Office of the Safety Commissioner, even after that office has
Speaker 7: been politicized and really gone far away from its initial role,
Speaker 7: which was protecting children from harmful online.
Speaker 1: Well that's for us to debate at SEAPAC. Matt, can't
Speaker 1: wait to see you there again. We always have a
Speaker 1: good ad buyers there at Seapack, don't you worry about that.
Speaker 1: Lots and lots of fun. We'll see you there fifth
Speaker 1: to sixth of October there at the soph Hotel in Brisbane.
Speaker 1: After the break, we'll speak to British Commander Rich kemp
Speaker 1: Adune War.
Speaker 5: Middle East in a tick.
Speaker 1: Well extraordinary week this week in the Middle East, joining
Speaker 1: US now to discuss that escalating conflict in the extraordinary
Speaker 1: pages slash, blowing up phones, etc.
Speaker 14: Etc.
Speaker 1: Attacks against Hezbolla. Former British commander Great friend of the show,
Speaker 1: Richard Kemp. Colonel Richard Kemp, Richard.
Speaker 4: Great to see you. You're in Washington. I gata what
Speaker 4: just tell us?
Speaker 1: Really fascinated by the military side, the complexity of the
Speaker 1: pager attacks.
Speaker 4: So these pages blew up with hes.
Speaker 1: Boller they were only there were pages that only went
Speaker 1: to Hesboler operatives.
Speaker 4: They blew up, killed, several, injured, many more.
Speaker 1: Tell us about the military side of this attack from
Speaker 1: your point to view, Richard.
Speaker 14: Yeah, good to be with you.
Speaker 21: This is a very devastating attack against his Ballare and
Speaker 21: it's extremely It's probably about the most carefully focused attack
Speaker 21: you could ever launch against the terrorist organization because it's
Speaker 21: targeted on individuals who are members of the his Billare
Speaker 21: terrorist organization. It's incredibly sophisticated work by presumably by Israeli intelligence.
Speaker 21: Although they haven't acknowledged that it was them that did it,
Speaker 21: I think most people assume that it was and it's
Speaker 21: not only does it do real damage to his Balah,
Speaker 21: and I'm talking about destroying their communication system to all
Speaker 21: intents and purposes with both pages and also walkie talkies,
Speaker 21: but also killing probably quite a large number of mass operatives,
Speaker 21: including senior ones, and wounding severely wounding many many others.
Speaker 21: Very damaging and also deeply humiliating to his blare across
Speaker 21: the Middle East.
Speaker 14: That has been.
Speaker 21: His bar has been ridiculed by on social media and
Speaker 21: in some mainstream media for failing to have that level
Speaker 21: of security needed to be weak enough to allow israelative
Speaker 21: to carry this operation, So a very very serious attack
Speaker 21: against his BOLLA, which could have strategic consequences.
Speaker 11: James, Well, you know, along with that, we've now seen
Speaker 11: the walk he talk has exploded, and now they've hit
Speaker 11: Hamas operatives meeting to talk about what to do. This
Speaker 11: would seem to be the other benefits as well, and
Speaker 11: I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Number one,
Speaker 11: I imagine that this would be psychologically hugely crippling to
Speaker 11: Hezbollah and their operatives who would now be just you know,
Speaker 11: completely paranoid because they don't know where the next thing
Speaker 11: that's going to what literally explode on them is. But
Speaker 11: also it seems to have a huge intelligence trove now
Speaker 11: on you know who is in Hezbollah, who these people are,
Speaker 11: everybody who went to the hospital. They've got information now
Speaker 11: on everybody who's now linked at the level where they'd
Speaker 11: be getting one of these pages. Could you speak to
Speaker 11: that a bit.
Speaker 21: Yeah, Whether it's such a massive security breach as this was,
Speaker 21: any organization that stuffers from it immediately wants to carry
Speaker 21: out investigations to find out who was responsible, because of
Speaker 21: course if they're still active within the organization, which they
Speaker 21: probably are, then they could do even more damage, and
Speaker 21: so it becomes critical, and that in itself is a
Speaker 21: crippling operation where everyone's under suspicion or many people a
Speaker 21: under suspicion, and they don't, as you just said, they
Speaker 21: don't literally don't know which way to turn in terms,
Speaker 21: you know, can they use the mobile phones, Can they
Speaker 21: use their electric tooth process? Can they use computers? Is
Speaker 21: there a risk in all of this stuff? So it's very,
Speaker 21: very psychologically damaging to them, Rita.
Speaker 7: I'm interested in your response to the commentary we've heard
Speaker 7: since this attack was took place. A lot of politicians,
Speaker 7: even we've got a Green senators here, including Marine Ferruki,
Speaker 7: saying this was just an unacceptable actor. A lot of
Speaker 7: people are calling it an act of terror essentially. Is
Speaker 7: that how you see it? I would have thought targeting
Speaker 7: has Bullard operatives was as far away as from terrorism
Speaker 7: as you could possibly get. They're not. They weren't targeting
Speaker 7: just a regular folk. But there is a lot of
Speaker 7: commentary that this was an indiscriminate attack and innocent people
Speaker 7: were caught up in it.
Speaker 14: Yeah, because everything Israel does is wrong.
Speaker 4: Glad you cleared that.
Speaker 15: So now I understand what I've been misreading.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Richard. Excellent.
Speaker 7: Good that's what Senator Marine FERUCKI.
Speaker 4: You nailed it there, Richard, carry on.
Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean you know, Israel carries out attacking Gaza
Speaker 21: to kill terrorists hiding behind human shields and tragically uninvolved
Speaker 21: vili and sometimes died despite the precautions that the Ideaf take.
Speaker 21: And then so that's wrong because it risks civilin death.
Speaker 21: Then when Israel carries out a really pinpoint attack like this, Okay,
Speaker 21: there may have been one or two people killed who
Speaker 21: shouldn't have been killed in this attack, but that happens.
Speaker 14: In war, and it's not terrorists. This is not a
Speaker 14: terrorist attack.
Speaker 21: It's the most probably most precise anti terrorist attack you
Speaker 21: could carry out in Israel.
Speaker 14: Is it perfectly entitled to.
Speaker 21: Target those people who have been firing rockets into Israel
Speaker 21: more than eight thousand rockets since the eighth of October,
Speaker 21: firing rockets almost every day into Israel.
Speaker 14: Why shouldn't they carry these attacks?
Speaker 1: And Richard just you mentioned that, so surely now we
Speaker 1: can expect to see, you know, tell us what the
Speaker 1: war goals are.
Speaker 4: Who said the goal is to get those people.
Speaker 1: Who had to move out of northern Israel because of
Speaker 1: those rocket attacks you mentioned. Can they now go back
Speaker 1: in is Israel going to focus on his Bolla now
Speaker 1: finishing off the job. Will we see Israeli troops moving
Speaker 1: into Lebanon or are they now going to refocus on Hamas.
Speaker 1: What do you think the strategy is going forward in
Speaker 1: the next few weeks.
Speaker 21: Well, her Mass have been largely defeated in Gaza. They're
Speaker 21: still there, there's still terrorist acts taking place inside Gaza
Speaker 21: by the remnants of the Mass, but they've been largely defeated.
Speaker 21: And that means that the Idea now are able to
Speaker 21: move reinforce out of Gaza to the northern front.
Speaker 14: And we have seen, in fact, we've seen.
Speaker 21: Today even only today, we've seen devastating attacks by Israel
Speaker 21: against his Blah in Beirut and elsewhere, killing large numbers
Speaker 21: of terrorists, destroying rocket launchers, preempting what the idea of
Speaker 21: believe was a planned, major, planned attack against Israel. That
Speaker 21: but we have seen this evening. I'm not sure how
Speaker 21: that relates to the time zone that you're in or
Speaker 21: I'm in in the time zone in Israel. But today,
Speaker 21: shall we pay today or yesterday?
Speaker 14: We've seen.
Speaker 21: A very very significant barrage of rockets fired out of
Speaker 21: the level and about one hundred and twenty rockets reportedly
Speaker 21: going deep into Israel, some of them not actually hitting HiFER,
Speaker 21: which is further south than Hisbela has been seriously attacking recently,
Speaker 21: not actually hitting higher, but hitting a lot of places
Speaker 21: nearby Heifer. So it's a real move, it's a real change.
Speaker 21: I think in his Bla's actions it shows that they
Speaker 21: are really reeling for what's happened. I'm sure of those
Speaker 21: one hundred and twenty most of them will have been
Speaker 21: intercepted by Iron Dome and other air defense system but
Speaker 21: there may well have been. And literally the reports are
Speaker 21: coming in now about this, there may well have been
Speaker 21: a number of Israeli casualties, have been quite widespread fires
Speaker 21: caused in northern Israel by of these rockets of London,
Speaker 21: and probably mainly in open or forested areas well.
Speaker 11: The one of the chances, then, now, with these two
Speaker 11: Iranian proxies Hamas and Hezbolla seriously weakened and disorganized, that
Speaker 11: i Ran itself decides to step back into this and
Speaker 11: escalate the conflict, to basically avenge their proxies or buy
Speaker 11: them some time to keep the pressure on Israel. I
Speaker 11: can't see them just simply letting these two fronts fade back.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 21: And although as I just said, Hamas have been largely defeated,
Speaker 21: not totally destroyed, but largely defeated a major, a major
Speaker 21: proxy of Iran, and now with his Bolla under serious
Speaker 21: pressure in the North Ran, Iran may well be tempted
Speaker 21: to wage in itself and carry out maybe a similar
Speaker 21: kind of barrage of rocket attacks as it did on
Speaker 21: the fourteenth of April. And you can be sure, I
Speaker 21: know for sure that Arab countries like Jordan are ready
Speaker 21: to intercept the Iranian rockets coming from either from Irr
Speaker 21: and self or from the hoofs in Yemen. And I'm
Speaker 21: sure also I don't know this for certain, but I'd
Speaker 21: be surprised if Allied Air Force is like the US
Speaker 21: Air Force and the Royal Air Force, are not already
Speaker 21: preparing themselves to help defend Israel. Israel's focus is clearly
Speaker 21: on the north, but it has to protect itself throughout
Speaker 21: the whole country as well, And as we saw on
Speaker 21: the fourteenth of April, its allies, I hope will come
Speaker 21: to its aid and try and minimize the damage that's
Speaker 21: being done by Iran and its proxies. But I think
Speaker 21: we are I didn't really answer Rowan's question properly earlier.
Speaker 21: I think we are getting close to the point where
Speaker 21: Israel may feel now it's the time to carry a
Speaker 21: major offensive into southern Lebanon, to push to destroy parts
Speaker 21: of his bill are there, and push the remnants back
Speaker 21: up north where they're not presenting quite such a threat,
Speaker 21: and thereby allowing the sixty to eighty thousand Israeli citizens
Speaker 21: who've been a vacuum for about a year now to
Speaker 21: go back to their homes.
Speaker 1: Richard Camp fantastic, always chatting to you. Enjoy your time
Speaker 1: there in Washington, and we'll chat again soon. Thanks so
Speaker 1: much for your insights. After the break, we'll speak to
Speaker 1: Ian Clymer about the wild climate alarmism coming at us daily.
Speaker 4: From the left Uniting.
Speaker 1: Hello, you're watching Outsiders with Rita Popular Front, Panahe James
Speaker 1: Enemy of the People tomorrow.
Speaker 4: And myself Rowan World Revolution Dean.
Speaker 1: Earlier this year, Columbia University in America and New York
Speaker 1: re established its credentials as one of the most hardcore
Speaker 1: left wing radical campuses in America, indeed in the West,
Speaker 1: with violent pro Palestinians occupying the university's Hamilton Hall and
Speaker 1: quote a troubling pattern of Jewish students being harassed and
Speaker 1: made to feel unsafe, so much so that by the
Speaker 1: end of the US summer holidays, the universe city's hackless
Speaker 1: president minus Chaffique, decided to quote step down.
Speaker 4: Will things change there?
Speaker 1: Unlikely given the university's history, but at least someone recognized
Speaker 1: that a head needed to roll here. In Australia this week,
Speaker 1: Minuz Schaffique's equivalent to our once prestigious but now laughable
Speaker 1: Sydney University Vice Chancellor Mark Scott quote conceded he has
Speaker 1: failed his Jewish students and staff, and even as James
Speaker 1: was saying earlier, Education Minister Jason Clair apparently declined to
Speaker 1: say he has any confidence in Mark Scott.
Speaker 4: At the same time as.
Speaker 1: Numerous Jewish groups have questioned Scott's position, as The Australian
Speaker 1: Newspaper reported, quote the Australasian Union of Jewish Students said
Speaker 1: the University of Sydney was probably one of the worst
Speaker 1: places to be Jewish, to be a Jewish student right now,
Speaker 1: and they said quote vote. When pressed by Opposition Education
Speaker 1: spokeswoman Sarah Henderson and Senator Paul scar on whether this
Speaker 1: constituted failure of leadership, Mark Scott said quote yes. I
Speaker 1: have failed them and the university has failed them. Following
Speaker 1: the protest, Mark Scott struck an agreement with the university's
Speaker 1: Muslim Students Association to give it a seat on a
Speaker 1: committee that would review the university's defense and security investments.
Speaker 4: I should say heads needs to roll.
Speaker 1: This is just appalling and it goes without saying that
Speaker 1: Mark Scott, who was equally appalling by the way, in
Speaker 1: my opinion as head of the ABC for many years,
Speaker 1: should resign or immediately be forced to step down. By
Speaker 1: an incoming coalition government. But back to Columbia University that
Speaker 1: gifted Western civilization the likes of Barack Obama, Ruth Bader Ginsburg,
Speaker 1: and Anthony Blincoln. Columbia has a very long history of
Speaker 1: being a hotbed of radical leftist activism. Send your kids
Speaker 1: there at your peril and at their peril.
Speaker 4: I say.
Speaker 1: For example, back in the nineteen sixties, two sociology professors
Speaker 1: at Columbia University came up with a novel concept for
Speaker 1: wait for it, how to destroy the United States from within.
Speaker 4: Or something like that.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that's got to do with sociology,
Speaker 1: but anyway, their names were Richard Cloward and Francis Fox Piven.
Speaker 1: Now I'll confess to you. I dropped out from the
Speaker 1: air and you studying, among other things, sociology as part
Speaker 1: of an arts degree. When I realized, after inly a
Speaker 1: few months at sociology was stating the bleeding obvious mashed
Speaker 1: up with total brain rotting leftist nonsense. So I start
Speaker 1: from a low bar of expectation when it comes to
Speaker 1: sociology professors. But even so, Cloud and Piven decided studying
Speaker 1: how people interact in social settings wasn't nearly enough of
Speaker 1: a challenge for them, so they decided instead to destroy capitalism,
Speaker 1: or rather, as they chose to put it in the
Speaker 1: article a jointly publish in the notorious May nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: sixth issue of The Nation magazine, quote the Weight of
Speaker 1: the Poor a strategy to end poverty. Now, of course,
Speaker 1: many people have come up with all sorts of ideas
Speaker 1: to end poverty, Bob Hawk, for example, although he limited
Speaker 1: it to the kiddies. By nineteen ninety, no Australian child
Speaker 1: will be living in poverty.
Speaker 5: Maybe not.
Speaker 1: Then, of course, we had our own treasurer, Jim Chalmers,
Speaker 1: who made a goose of himself by publishing a lengthy
Speaker 1: essay outlining his plans to reinvent capitalism by humanizing it
Speaker 1: or some other fanciful notion.
Speaker 4: Charmers attempted to.
Speaker 1: Give his essay a veneer of respectability and seriousness by,
Speaker 1: in the opening sentence quoting the ancient Greek Stoic philosopher Heraclitus,
Speaker 1: who said, quote no man ever steps in the same
Speaker 1: river twice, for it's not the same river, and he's
Speaker 1: not the same man.
Speaker 4: Nice tried to Chalmers.
Speaker 1: The old wiki quotes always comes in handy when you're
Speaker 1: preparing an article. But from the moment Jim penned his
Speaker 1: mighty tone, the Australian economy certainly appears to have stepped
Speaker 1: into something. I'm not sure it's a river, more like
Speaker 1: an aromatic creek without a paddle. Anyway, back to our
Speaker 1: two gallant Columbia sociology professors and their paper which became
Speaker 1: well known to anarchists and anti capitalists alike during the
Speaker 1: turbulent nineteen seventies as the Clowd Pythn Strategy. The opening
Speaker 1: paragraph spells it out pretty unambiguously. Quote, it is our
Speaker 1: purpose to advance the strategy, which affords the basis for
Speaker 1: a convergence of civil rights organizations, militant anti poverty groups,
Speaker 1: and the poor. If this strategy were implemented, a political
Speaker 1: crisis would result that could lead to legislation for a
Speaker 1: guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty. Nice
Speaker 1: unproven assertion there at the end, as Cloud and Pyven wrote, quote,
Speaker 1: a series of welfare drives in large cities, would we
Speaker 1: believe impel action on a new federal program to distribute income,
Speaker 1: eliminating the present public welfare system and alleviating the abject
Speaker 1: poverty which it perpetrates.
Speaker 4: They go on.
Speaker 1: Quote these disruptions would generate severe political strains and deepen
Speaker 1: existing divisions among elements in the big city democratic coalition,
Speaker 1: the remaining white middle class, the white working class, ethnic groups,
Speaker 1: and the growing minority poor. A national democratic administration would
Speaker 1: be constrained to advance a federal solution to poverty. The
Speaker 1: paper then outlines this is from the seventies. Remember how
Speaker 1: to quote generate such a crisis in capitalism by.
Speaker 4: Overloading the welfare.
Speaker 1: System and encouraging more and more people to sign on
Speaker 1: to the doll and grab any and every government entitlement.
Speaker 4: Organizers will have to become.
Speaker 1: Advocates, wrote Cloud and Piven, including and they specifically mentioned
Speaker 1: activist lawyers and their reasoning most cases will not require
Speaker 1: an expert knowledge of law, but only of welfare regulations,
Speaker 1: and advocacy must be supplemented by organized demonstrations to create
Speaker 1: a climate of militancy.
Speaker 4: Then, as the crisis develops, it will be important to
Speaker 4: use the.
Speaker 1: Mass media to inform the broader liberal meaning left wing
Speaker 1: community about the inefficiencies and injustices of welfare and throughout
Speaker 1: the crisis the mass media should be used to advance
Speaker 1: arguments for a new federal income distribution program. Cloud and
Speaker 1: Cliven Piven also pointed out, somewhat gleefully, that anyone who
Speaker 1: insists upon extracting maximum benefits from public welfare is in
Speaker 1: effect part of a coalition that is contributing to the cause.
Speaker 1: And that cause, in their own words, is the ultimate
Speaker 1: aim of this strategy, is a new program for direct
Speaker 1: income distribution brought about through the force of crisis. And
Speaker 1: crisis they define as publicly visible disruption which exposes or
Speaker 1: creates conflict. So there you have it, in a nutshell,
Speaker 1: political anarchy, violence, and unrest is clemented to such a degree,
Speaker 1: and they specifically wanted a Democrat government to do this.
Speaker 1: At first, the welfare system is overwhelmed the rule of law,
Speaker 1: and then capitalism itself collapses and a powerful authoritarian government
Speaker 1: steps in, seizes all the means of production, introduces a
Speaker 1: controlled economy by force, including a basic minimum wage, and hey, presto,
Speaker 1: you've got an end to poverty, except, of course, it
Speaker 1: never is an end to poverty, is it. This strategy
Speaker 1: and this goal has another name, one that history is
Speaker 1: only all too familiar with. Communism an Unlike free market capitalism,
Speaker 1: which has done far more to end poverty than any
Speaker 1: other system, Communism has led to some of the most
Speaker 1: brutal and industrial scale evil regimes and destitution in the world.
Speaker 1: Has ever seen his Trump supporter and prominent conservative Charlie
Speaker 1: Kirk speaking about his interpretation of the Cloud Piven strategy
Speaker 1: and what he perceives to be its relevance in America today.
Speaker 2: What the Democrats are doing is a deliberate plan of
Speaker 2: destruction against the United States of America. In the nineteen seventies,
Speaker 2: there were two Marxist communist political philosophers, Cloward Piven, who
Speaker 2: wrote a document saying that we are going to turn
Speaker 2: America into a communist country by doing three things. We
Speaker 2: will destroy the US dollar by printing trillions of dollars.
Speaker 4: We do not have.
Speaker 2: We will build a deep state of government agents that
Speaker 2: will go after everyday citizens and that will that will
Speaker 2: absorb the private sector. And we will open up the
Speaker 2: southern border the United States to allow tens of millions
Speaker 2: of Third worlders to come into the country. This is
Speaker 2: called the Cloward Piven strategy. Trillions of dollars, we do
Speaker 2: not have, a deep state, administrative state that is destroying
Speaker 2: the country and is locking up our political dissidents and
Speaker 2: allowing the Third world to come into America. It is
Speaker 2: not a mistake or an accident what Joe Biden is doing.
Speaker 4: It is intentional.
Speaker 8: There you go.
Speaker 1: But it is the penultimate sentence of the original Cloud
Speaker 1: Piven or Private that is most prescient and most chilling.
Speaker 4: And that is quote. If organizers can deliver millions of
Speaker 4: dollars in.
Speaker 1: Cash benefits to the ghetto, it seems reasonable to expect
Speaker 1: that the masses will deliver their loyalties to their benefactors.
Speaker 1: Sound familiar, as the Democrats literally poor millions and millions
Speaker 1: of Third World immigrants into the US and spread the
Speaker 1: welfare states trillions of dollars. This is much much more
Speaker 1: to the There is much much more to the US
Speaker 1: election than just Trump versus Harris. Whether by coincidence or
Speaker 1: by design, what is happening now in the United States
Speaker 1: is in lockstep with that cloud Python plan to bring
Speaker 1: about communism in America. By overwhelming the borders, the welfare system,
Speaker 1: and the courts, you get anarchy. And only when you
Speaker 1: have anarchy do the people beg for totalitarianism.
Speaker 4: Here in Australia.
Speaker 1: Of course, we too appear to be playing foot seas
Speaker 1: with Cloud and Pyven. The Albanesi government is bringing in
Speaker 1: the greatest number of immigrants this nation has ever seen.
Speaker 1: Our welfare system is now out of control and the
Speaker 1: largest part of our federal budget, and our government literally
Speaker 1: encourages people.
Speaker 4: To get onto the public gravy train.
Speaker 1: They even run websites telling you which payments you can get,
Speaker 1: just in case you might miss out. There is a
Speaker 1: famous quotation, sometimes attributed to alex Tokerville or Scottish academic
Speaker 1: Alexander Fraser Tyler. A democracy cannot exist as a permanent
Speaker 1: form of government. It can only exist until the voters
Speaker 1: discover that they can vote themselves larges from the public treasury.
Speaker 1: On November fifth, I guess we'll find out the truth
Speaker 1: of that assertion. Let's bring in our next guest, geologist, Professor.
Speaker 4: Ian Plymer, live from Adelaide. Ian, always great to see
Speaker 4: you and to have you here on Outsiders.
Speaker 1: Now tell us, first of all, I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you about Ed Millerband.
Speaker 4: Who is Britain's answer to Chris Bowen.
Speaker 1: They share a lot in common, Professor, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to play you a short clip of Ed Miller band
Speaker 1: this week talking to the voters of the UK. He's
Speaker 1: only recently taken over the portfolio. I'd love to see
Speaker 1: him and Bowen and a meeting together. It'd be so
Speaker 1: much fun. But have a listen to this clown.
Speaker 4: Here we go.
Speaker 22: It's to the other the name Barack Obama has been
Speaker 22: elected President of the United States. Hussain Ball is breaking
Speaker 22: records at the Beijing Olympics, and Batman is dominating at
Speaker 22: the box office.
Speaker 5: And I'm the Energy Secretary.
Speaker 4: Yes, like Batman, I've returned. Now we've learned a lot.
Speaker 16: Back then, we used to talk, or I used to
Speaker 16: talk about an energy hi lemma. What's a trelemma. A
Speaker 16: dilemma is a choice between two things. A trilemma is
Speaker 16: a choice where there are three things and you can't
Speaker 16: have all three. The choice between affordability, security and sustainability.
Speaker 16: And the idea was that fossil fuels might not be sustainable,
Speaker 16: but they did give you affordability and security. But since
Speaker 16: then we've had the terrible cost of living crisis, which
Speaker 16: was caused by our exposure to fossil fuels. So that
Speaker 16: old trilemma has disintegrated.
Speaker 4: So is he correct.
Speaker 1: Let's do our own little fact checking misinformation disinformation. He
Speaker 1: seems to be asserting there that fossil fuels of caused
Speaker 1: Britain's problems at the moments in climber.
Speaker 5: Well is absolutely totally wrong.
Speaker 23: Fossil fuels actually provide medication, and he should change his.
Speaker 7: He was also adding the solar farms in talking about
Speaker 7: how the solar farms are so important to Britain's future.
Speaker 7: I mean, how much sunlight do they have there that
Speaker 7: these solar farms are actually going to be creating much energy?
Speaker 23: Well, the UK is a precipitous, sunless, miserable island somewhere
Speaker 23: out there in the siege.
Speaker 5: And why did.
Speaker 23: The English go to for their holidays to get some sun? Again,
Speaker 23: totally absolutely wrong. Maybe we should add another medication to
Speaker 23: his protocol, James, I wanted.
Speaker 11: To ask you. I there's been a fascinating story coming
Speaker 11: out of the States over the last couple of days.
Speaker 11: Here apparently Microsoft has gone and bought the old three
Speaker 11: Mile Island reactor site, which is, you know, the nuclear
Speaker 11: reactor that when I was drawing up or said, oh,
Speaker 11: that's why you shouldn't have nuclear reactors because they realize,
Speaker 11: you know, that they need nuclear energy, cheap, reliable power
Speaker 11: to power their data centers. How much is Australia missing
Speaker 11: out here by not being able to tap this form
Speaker 11: of energy here at home, when in America even private
Speaker 11: companies like Microsoft and Amazon are doing this.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 23: Of the world's electricity is used in data systems. Microsoft
Speaker 23: are very much aware of that. We are you using
Speaker 23: more and more of these big systems with a huge
Speaker 23: amount of grunt. If things had gone a little bit
Speaker 23: differently with the Liberal Party in the late sixties early seventies,
Speaker 23: we would have had our first nuclear reactor sitting in
Speaker 23: Jarvis Bay.
Speaker 5: The foundations are there.
Speaker 23: But once Gorton lost power and Billy McMahon came in,
Speaker 23: then the whole program was shelved.
Speaker 5: And when Labour came in in nineteen seventy two that
Speaker 5: was the end of it.
Speaker 23: We were very nearly a nuclear country. We would have
Speaker 23: been a very wealthy country where we would have had nuclear, coal,
Speaker 23: gas and hydro operating. In Eastern Australia and in Western
Speaker 23: Australia we would.
Speaker 5: Have had gas, coal and nuclear.
Speaker 23: We blew a magnificent opportunity to be the powerhouse of
Speaker 23: the South Pacific, and we're.
Speaker 7: Still blowing opportunities in. We are sitting on hundreds of
Speaker 7: years maybe even more of gas reserves, and yet we've
Speaker 7: got gas shortages and the gas prices of absolutely skyrocket.
Speaker 7: Do you see a future where there's a little bit
Speaker 7: more sanity in our energy policy in this country?
Speaker 23: Well, where you live Rita, there are thousands of years
Speaker 23: of coal, there are thousands of years of gas. Victorian
Speaker 23: government has been telling us for years that there's no
Speaker 23: gas on shore.
Speaker 5: They're wrong.
Speaker 23: I've been to the Wombatfield in Gippsland area. Five wells
Speaker 23: there were flashed with gas. There is a lot of
Speaker 23: gas in Victoria. For the rest of Australia, we have
Speaker 23: thousands of years of gas, thousands of years of coal
Speaker 23: and millions of years of uranium. We are an energy superpower.
Speaker 23: We will never be a renewable superpower because the only
Speaker 23: thing renewable about the renewables is the money. It just
Speaker 23: keeps coming and ultimately it runs out. So we are
Speaker 23: an energy rich country. We are blowing it now.
Speaker 1: And you're a geologist, I want to refer to this
Speaker 1: to you. It's in our net zany segment. But it
Speaker 1: could equally have come out of ice age Watch. The
Speaker 1: Washington Post is reporting that average global temperatures are near
Speaker 1: wait for it, and all time low. Now they've taken
Speaker 1: that data back one hundred and eighty five million years
Speaker 1: to discover that we're at the bottom four hundred and
Speaker 1: five Wow, sorry is four hundred and eighty five million years,
Speaker 1: So they've gone back nearly five hundred million years. Are
Speaker 1: you surprised the end to find we're at the lower end?
Speaker 1: I mean it has been very cold in South Australia
Speaker 1: and New South Wales recently. I don't know if these
Speaker 1: two facts are related that tell us your thoughts.
Speaker 23: Well, this is well known in the geological literature. Since
Speaker 23: we had complex, multi sedular life on Earth, we have
Speaker 23: had a decreasing.
Speaker 5: The amount of carbon diox on the atmosphere.
Speaker 23: It's gone from zero point seven, which was five hundred
Speaker 23: million years ago, to point zero four. So we are
Speaker 23: having a crisis in carbon dioxide. There's not enough plant
Speaker 23: food in the atmosphere. The second thing is that we've
Speaker 23: had periods of time when it's been very cold, and
Speaker 23: we're in the fourth period of time during the last
Speaker 23: five hundred million years when it's been very cold. We're
Speaker 23: actually in an ice age and it started thirty four
Speaker 23: million years ago when South America pulled away from Antarctica.
Speaker 23: We are in an ice age, and during that ice
Speaker 23: age we have slightly colder periods called glaciation and slightly
Speaker 23: warmer periods and into glacial and we're currently an into glacial. Now,
Speaker 23: no legislation is going to change the distance we are
Speaker 23: from the sun.
Speaker 5: Change ensure.
Speaker 4: I'm sure you could they do They can do those things.
Speaker 4: The Labor Party, I'm an easy one for elbows.
Speaker 5: Pretty good. Now, let's this has been well known in
Speaker 5: the literature for at least one hundred years.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of literature, you are a brilliant author and
Speaker 1: many people love your books. So I'm going to take
Speaker 1: this opportunity to exclusively reveal it.
Speaker 4: You've got a new book coming out, tell us about
Speaker 4: a Lion.
Speaker 23: Well, this is being released at Sea Pack, which is
Speaker 23: in Brisbane on the fifth and sixth of October. This
Speaker 23: is an ABC for his own. You won't ever welcome
Speaker 23: to country there. You'll have no Communists or Green Party there.
Speaker 23: You'll have the Trio of Turpitudes from Sky there. James,
Speaker 23: and if you meet James there, make sure you get
Speaker 23: him to pronounce the word Iran correctly.
Speaker 5: If you see Rowan, make sure that you straighten up
Speaker 5: his tie and he doesn't if he's just fallen out
Speaker 5: of bed.
Speaker 23: And with Rita you can have a gentle ladylike discussion
Speaker 23: about leadership in the Victorian Liberal partnership.
Speaker 4: Give me some kind.
Speaker 5: Words about them.
Speaker 23: And if you come along to Sea Pack, I might
Speaker 23: even have a haircut, but I'll be there with a
Speaker 23: new book called The End of the World.
Speaker 5: Of editor of this book.
Speaker 23: There are a number of well known authors there, people
Speaker 23: like Rowan.
Speaker 5: Rowan Dean didn't get a look in.
Speaker 23: But we have John Roscom and others who are authors.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 5: That book is written for children. That book is to
Speaker 5: talk about the child abuse that.
Speaker 23: We've been having for the last couple of decades, where
Speaker 23: kids are having anxiety about climate and about the end
Speaker 23: of the world. And this book shows that this is
Speaker 23: just propaganda. It's absolute total rubbish. It is really dangerous rubbish.
Speaker 23: And if you want to go to Seapac, wonderful place
Speaker 23: to be just above Central Station in Brisbane, you can
Speaker 23: go straight upstairs into the venue. You will be meeting
Speaker 23: all the specky writers. You'll be meeting all the s
Speaker 23: guy presenters. I think I've done you adversement now.
Speaker 1: It's a great conference, fantastic look forward to seeing you
Speaker 1: there at the Gradi and Pimer after the break James
Speaker 1: don guivotes plus Natasha Housdorff.
Speaker 4: Well here in a tip on outside of.
Speaker 11: Hello, you're watching out Siders. I'm James Borrow here as
Speaker 11: always with Rita Panahey and Rowan Dean, and I've got
Speaker 11: some breaking news for you. Forget about the election. It
Speaker 11: appears that America already has its first female president. Check
Speaker 11: this out. The Biden administration, led by the non compassmentist
Speaker 11: Joe Biden, just held its first cabinet meeting in eleven months,
Speaker 11: which I guess is fine because there's been nothing going
Speaker 11: on in the world the last year. So but this
Speaker 11: is what's interesting. Look who was sitting at the head
Speaker 11: of the table.
Speaker 24: She's talked about the fact that sometimes the White House,
Speaker 24: in her words, surprises you. And for somebody who has
Speaker 24: worked on women's health issues for her whole career, frankly
Speaker 24: as a teacher, but also as the second Lady and
Speaker 24: now as the first Lady, she said one of the
Speaker 24: things that struck her the most was the inequities in
Speaker 24: medical research funding for medical research for women, So this
Speaker 24: is an important priority of hers.
Speaker 11: Yes, that's right, it was Jill, or rather doctor Jill
Speaker 11: Biden to you. Watch here as the co president Joe
Speaker 11: kicked off the meeting and everyone clapped, well almost everyone.
Speaker 6: United States continues to be home to the most cutting
Speaker 6: edge research in the world and where everyone can lead
Speaker 6: healthier lives.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 11: Sorry, Oh poor Joe. Does he not know what's going on?
Speaker 11: Or is he still annoyed at having been usurped again? Anyway,
Speaker 11: they did actually let the President speak to introduce Jill.
Speaker 11: And remember this is a guy who apparently was not
Speaker 11: capable of running for president, but is still capable of
Speaker 11: being being president.
Speaker 25: It's the first time Jill has joined us and go
Speaker 25: to show how important issue is. Where she's about to
Speaker 25: speak to the both of us today at the top
Speaker 25: of our meeting. Jill's going to a given update on
Speaker 25: the House initiative, White House Initiative to fundamentally changed the
Speaker 25: approach and the fund on how we approach in fund
Speaker 25: women's health services.
Speaker 11: And if anyone has any doubts that we are now
Speaker 11: in at least a full co presidency phase of this president.
Speaker 11: The official honorary folders for the meeting were emblazoned not
Speaker 11: just with Joe's signature, but with Jill's or sorry, doctor
Speaker 11: Jill's signature. Now it's quite crazy when you think about it.
Speaker 11: How when Donald Trump as president walked slowly down a
Speaker 11: ramp that one time. Remember that everybody was ready to
Speaker 11: go the full twenty fifth Amendment on him. But the
Speaker 11: media treats this situation as just, you know, normal, not weird. Anyway,
Speaker 11: speaking of weird versus normal, My god, how about that
Speaker 11: interview Kamala Harris did with Oprah? Did you see this again?
Speaker 11: In even the most softball form, Harris was left grasping
Speaker 11: for answers, laughing nervously, and repeating the same set pieces
Speaker 11: that have been running her entire mini campaign. First a
Speaker 11: bit of Harris just talking about well, who knows. And
Speaker 11: there's a great moment here when it looks like even
Speaker 11: Oprah is having a WTF moment.
Speaker 26: One of the greatest expressions.
Speaker 4: For the love of our country, one of the.
Speaker 26: Greatest expressions of patriotism is to fight for the ideals
Speaker 26: of who we are, which includes freedom to make decisions
Speaker 26: about your own body, freedom to be safe from gun violence,
Speaker 26: freedom to have access.
Speaker 11: Looking over his face.
Speaker 4: What is this woman talking about?
Speaker 11: Anyway? The premise of the forum was for Harris to
Speaker 11: be asked some very basic questions, questions which she still
Speaker 11: struggled with, even though they're entirely predictable. Here she was
Speaker 11: being asked about what she do about the border.
Speaker 8: When you become president. What would be your specific steps?
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, what will.
Speaker 8: Be specific steps to strengthening the border.
Speaker 3: So it's a wonderful and important question. You know, my
Speaker 3: background was as a prosecutor, and I was also the
Speaker 3: elected attorney general for two terms of a border state,
Speaker 3: So this is not a theoretical issue for me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yea yeah.
Speaker 11: You know, she's always on about being a prosecutor. But
Speaker 11: you know how great a record she had as a prosecutor.
Speaker 11: Remember this from when Tulsi Robert absolutely eviscerated her back
Speaker 11: in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: I'm deeply concerned about this record. There are too many examples.
Speaker 17: To cite, but she put over fifteen hundred people in
Speaker 17: jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when
Speaker 17: she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana.
Speaker 5: She blocked evidence.
Speaker 3: She blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man
Speaker 3: from death row until the courts forced her to do so.
Speaker 27: She kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them.
Speaker 3: As cheap labor for the state of California.
Speaker 11: That pretty much blew her out of the twenty twenty primary,
Speaker 11: and yet she's still talking about what a great prosecutor
Speaker 11: she was anyway. On the border, Harris rambled on for
Speaker 11: a full three minutes before a visibly bored Oprah finally
Speaker 11: jumped in to save her.
Speaker 3: Is it about running on problems or fixing problems? My
Speaker 3: work in my career has always been about saying, let's
Speaker 3: fix problems, let's address the needs, because we know it's
Speaker 3: within our capacity to do that.
Speaker 11: So to answer Justin's question, now that that bill has gone,
Speaker 11: it hasn't passed, will you reintroduce that. Harris also got
Speaker 11: a completely unexpected I mean, why in the world would
Speaker 11: anybody ask the question about the cost of living? And
Speaker 11: she got it from this young couple. Check out the
Speaker 11: panic in her eyes and the total non answer.
Speaker 3: We really would love to know what your plan is
Speaker 3: to help lower the cost of living. Yeah, first, of all,
Speaker 3: thank you both for being here and yours is a
Speaker 3: story I hear around the country as I travel, and
Speaker 3: in terms of both rightly having the right to have
Speaker 3: aspirations and dreams and ambitions for your family, and working
Speaker 3: hard and finding that the American dream is for the
Speaker 3: this generation and so many recently, far more elusive than
Speaker 3: it's been. And we need to deal with that. And
Speaker 3: there are a number of ways. One is bringing down
Speaker 3: the cost of everyday necessities, including groceries.
Speaker 11: Okay, so let's get this straight. To lower the cost
Speaker 11: of living, we have to bring down the cost of groceries. Wow,
Speaker 11: but how well we never told that anyway, Someone alert
Speaker 11: the Nobel Prize people. I think we've got a finalist
Speaker 11: in economics. Oh and then there was also this fantastic
Speaker 11: but but this might be my favorite here when Harris
Speaker 11: tried to pretend that she is a red blood and
Speaker 11: Second Amendment gun loving real American having a laugh about
Speaker 11: a very laughable topic of shooting anyone who broke into
Speaker 11: her house gun owner?
Speaker 5: Does a god know that.
Speaker 3: My house is a getting shot?
Speaker 5: Yes? Yes, I hear that. I hear that, probably not,
Speaker 5: but will deal.
Speaker 6: With that later.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how funny.
Speaker 11: Here, Kamala, I'm sorry, you're protected by the Secret Service.
Speaker 11: If anybody's shooting an intruder, it's them, unless, of course,
Speaker 11: that lady who couldn't holster her gun is in your detail,
Speaker 11: but who knows anyway. I reckon though, if you parse
Speaker 11: all of this, Kamala Harris's internal polls are telling her
Speaker 11: something she's not thrilled about. If she's having to go
Speaker 11: out and pander to gun owners like this, I mean,
Speaker 11: could it be that the joy has gone out of
Speaker 11: her campaign? The whole thing, that whole thing, But this
Speaker 11: whole campaign really revealed Kamala Harris to be an entirely
Speaker 11: empty vessel without an original thought in her head, which
Speaker 11: the media doesn't care about, frankly, because they just want
Speaker 11: to evict Trump so badly from the police scene. And
Speaker 11: of course, frankly, whoever is actually running the country, because
Speaker 11: it's not Joe or even Jill Well, they don't mind
Speaker 11: this either because they know if Kamala comes in, they'll
Speaker 11: still be in charge when the Bidens shuffle off to
Speaker 11: their beach house for good.
Speaker 1: Fantastic James, extraordinary, Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4: I mean serious, seriously, it just what.
Speaker 11: An empty Vessel. I mean, she has been on this
Speaker 11: campaign for how many weeks now, and she still doesn't
Speaker 11: have an answer to the question what will you do
Speaker 11: to bring down the cost?
Speaker 4: I can't believe we truandslide.
Speaker 7: Because the media propaganda campaign is like nothing we've seen before.
Speaker 7: It is astonishing.
Speaker 1: Okay, our next guest is UK Barrison, Natasha house Storf, Natasha.
Speaker 4: Great to have you back here on outside.
Speaker 1: As we were talking earlier to Colonel Richard Kemp kind
Speaker 1: of about the military aspects of the pages exploding and
Speaker 1: the walkie talkies exploding and the current activity the war
Speaker 1: that's happening to Israel's North, I wanted to ask you
Speaker 1: about the kind of legal ramifications of this. As Rita
Speaker 1: was saying earlier, there's a lot of the criticism from
Speaker 1: the usual suspects on the left as all this was
Speaker 1: indiscriminate targeting, et cetera, et cetera, YadA YadA. But you've
Speaker 1: written very brilliantly about the legal aspects of the PAGA attacks.
Speaker 4: Explain your thinking to us well, thank you.
Speaker 28: I was prompted to respond to some of this misinformed
Speaker 28: analysis that claimed that whoever was behind these PAGA explosions. Subsequently,
Speaker 28: walkie talkies, smart watchers, intercoms, many things have been exploding
Speaker 28: in close proximity, if not on the persons of Rizbala operatives,
Speaker 28: not just in Lebanon, and the analysis so far has
Speaker 28: been desperately lacking in real international law. These are the
Speaker 28: most targeted strikes one could possibly imagine, given that they
Speaker 28: are where we're talking about the pages themselves. His BUTA
Speaker 28: issued to terror operatives that have been targeting the terrorists
Speaker 28: and those that are in the chain of command specifically
Speaker 28: that have been taking their instructions from his Bulla directly.
Speaker 28: It's probably worth noting that, so far as we understand it,
Speaker 28: these pages were issued because his BLA was concerned that
Speaker 28: smartphones might give away too much information to the Israelis,
Speaker 28: and in the context of distinction, necessity, proportionality, these principles
Speaker 28: of the laws of armed conflict being adhered to in
Speaker 28: an exemplary fashion. Really, all the criticism that we've seen
Speaker 28: in the context of international law has been extremely troubling
Speaker 28: because it is fueling a lot of this misrepresentation about
Speaker 28: international law and about international humanitarian.
Speaker 4: Law, the law of armed conflict.
Speaker 7: More specifically, I want to just read you a statement
Speaker 7: from Marine Ferruki. She's a senator in the Australian Parliament
Speaker 7: of Greens member and she posted this on her social media.
Speaker 7: She said, the horrific pages attack that has killed nine people,
Speaker 7: including a young child, and left thousands wounded across Lebanon
Speaker 7: is exactly the type of sickening warfare people in Melbourne
Speaker 7: were protesting against. We had these wide protests in Victoria
Speaker 7: a week ago. The perpetrators must be held to account.
Speaker 7: Now you've just given us an explanation of why you
Speaker 7: say this isn't indiscriminate, it's very much targeted. But what's
Speaker 7: your response to to Senator Ferruki and to others who
Speaker 7: have we lost that. I've read sat statement and she's
Speaker 7: just said enough.
Speaker 4: I can't have Tasha back in a second.
Speaker 1: But while we're waiting, I just wanted to pick up
Speaker 1: on something about the free speech discussion we were having
Speaker 1: with Senator Matt Canavan earlier. And there is a rally
Speaker 1: coming up this next Saturday in Sydney. There's a public
Speaker 1: rally which is about the Information Misinformation Disinformation Bill. It's
Speaker 1: called Stop Albanesi's Misinformation and Disinformation Bill. It's going to
Speaker 1: be held at Speaker's Corner in Sydney. That's Art Gallery Road,
Speaker 1: the domain that's there in the domain opposite the new
Speaker 1: South Wales Art Gallery.
Speaker 4: There's loads of speakers. We'll still will be turning up there.
Speaker 1: There's a humorous George Orwell visual there up on your
Speaker 1: screen at the moment, and I urge you to go
Speaker 1: to that public rally eleven thirty am next Saturday, That Saturday,
Speaker 1: the twenty eighth, stop Albanesi's Misinformation and Disinformation Bill. Please
Speaker 1: to say, Natasha, we've got you back. So the technology
Speaker 1: works and you're back. Carry on answering reads.
Speaker 7: Oh yes, So your response to Senator Froki and others,
Speaker 7: And I've also heard criticism from those quarters, from commentators saying, well,
Speaker 7: what if one of these pages was on a train
Speaker 7: or on an aeroplane and there was a mass casualty event.
Speaker 7: So what's your response to that criticism.
Speaker 28: Well, firstly, it's extraordinary that the Senator and others would
Speaker 28: come out so immediately. It seems in support of an
Speaker 28: internationally prescribed terrorist organization. Let's not forget that Krizbalah operatives
Speaker 28: have been targeting not just Israelis and Jews, but other
Speaker 28: Western assets for several decades. But quite apart from that,
Speaker 28: I haven't heard any condemnation from these quarters of the
Speaker 28: real indiscriminate attacks, those contrary to international humanitarian law for
Speaker 28: the last year by Krasbala operatives in the south of
Speaker 28: Lebanon across Israeli community civilian communities, indiscriminately killing forty nine
Speaker 28: so far over the last twelve months, and that the
Speaker 28: death toll there on Israel's side is a testament to
Speaker 28: the extraordinary defensive measures that Israel has taken, whereby most
Speaker 28: of these rockets have been shot out of the skies
Speaker 28: by Israel's defensive mechanism. Over eighty five hundred have been fired,
Speaker 28: so that the communities of the north of Israel have
Speaker 28: course been evacuated. Between sixty to eighty thousand civilians have
Speaker 28: been evacuated from their homes for nearly a year. I
Speaker 28: haven't heard any condemnation of the real breaches of international law. Instead,
Speaker 28: we have, you know, the invention of international law to
Speaker 28: seek to criticize what has been done now in response
Speaker 28: specifically targeting these terrorist operatives and the creation of these hypotheticals.
Speaker 28: You know, what if a terrorist had been on a plane. Well,
Speaker 28: the fact of the matter is that the devices, when
Speaker 28: they were exploded, have targeted Habela operatives in a completely
Speaker 28: unparalleled way. There have been a number of legal military
Speaker 28: professionals who have remarked on the fact that this operation
Speaker 28: has made history, military history and legal history, because to
Speaker 28: hear about twelve operatives at least who have been neutralized
Speaker 28: and some over three thousand who have suffered substantial injury
Speaker 28: that may indeed take them out of their terrorist operations,
Speaker 28: that is a remarkable achievement. Against any civilian casualty, of course,
Speaker 28: is great, legal regrettable. But whereas these attacks have discriminated
Speaker 28: so that civilians have not been the targets of them,
Speaker 28: Hizbala's objectives have been directly to seek as many civilian
Speaker 28: casualties as possible, and they have been clear about their
Speaker 28: objectives of annihilating israel offer of the Map. So in
Speaker 28: that context, these criticisms and the absence of any comment
Speaker 28: against ongoing kriz Bala against innocent civilians is inexplicable. But
Speaker 28: for the only explanation is that these individuals are continuing
Speaker 28: to support internationally prescribed terrorist organizations as against the only
Speaker 28: democracy in the Middle East.
Speaker 4: There you go in attach Al. Still, thanks so much.
Speaker 1: It's great to get your legal perspective there on the situation. Now,
Speaker 1: thanks so much. After the break, Canbra clown show in
Speaker 1: a tick, Roll up, Roll up. It's the craziest show
Speaker 1: on It's the Canbra clown Show where your hard earned
Speaker 1: money is thrown around like confetti blasted out of a
Speaker 1: clown's cannon. For example, you and I spend thirty two
Speaker 1: million dollars a year on the Human Rights Commission. I
Speaker 1: wonder how well that money is spent Sending to Malcolm
Speaker 1: Roberts decided to find out how many letters after LGB
Speaker 1: does the Commission recognize.
Speaker 27: We use a range of terms to refer to the communities.
Speaker 27: Sometimes we would refer to LGBTQIA plus because of the
Speaker 27: ways in which people refer to themselves. We also use
Speaker 27: the terms that are referred to in international discussions, which
Speaker 27: is sexual orientation, gender identity expression and SC which for
Speaker 27: the moment escapes me, but it's another term that's used
Speaker 27: at an international level.
Speaker 4: I can't remember all the letters.
Speaker 1: There you go reminds you of another great stolwarts of
Speaker 1: the human rights movement, Justin Trudeau.
Speaker 23: I will never apologize for standing up for a lgdpl LBG.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the Commonwealth Bank intends to replace over two thousand
Speaker 1: of its home loan staff with chat GPT artificial intelligence.
Speaker 1: Given most AI seems to be infused with woke algorithms,
Speaker 1: what could possibly go wrong? Excuse me, Commonwealth pank chat GPT.
Speaker 1: My wife and I are keen to buy a quarter
Speaker 1: acre block and our own home to raise our family in.
Speaker 1: We've got a young boy and a baby girl, so
Speaker 1: we'll need a two car garage and a large backyard.
Speaker 1: What sort of loan will we need? Thank you for
Speaker 1: your inquiry to Commonwealth chat GPT. Two cars for one
Speaker 1: family and a quarter acre of land sounds rather excessive
Speaker 1: in terms of your family's carbon footprints. On top of which,
Speaker 1: I'm afraid we don't recognize cisgender pronouns and other anti
Speaker 1: gay discriminatory language such as boy and girl, So please
Speaker 1: refer to the Commonwealth Bank's gender fluid home purchasing guidelines
Speaker 1: before continuing.
Speaker 4: Have a nice day. In other news, as.
Speaker 1: We exclusively brought to you this time last week on
Speaker 1: Outside is the Welcome to Country industry. Yes, it is
Speaker 1: an industry and one that pays extremely well if you
Speaker 1: happen to be in on it. Reached new heights last weekend,
Speaker 1: heights of hyperbole with this nonsense.
Speaker 19: Welcome the country. He's not a ceremony that we've invented
Speaker 19: to cater for white people. It's a ceremony we've been
Speaker 19: doing for two hundred and fifty thousand years plus BC,
Speaker 19: and the BC stands for before Cook.
Speaker 1: The oldest human remains on this continent at around forty
Speaker 1: thousand years old, with some evidence of settlement around fifty to.
Speaker 4: Sixty thousand years ago. And that is it.
Speaker 1: So what did our parliamentarians make of this nonsense? Naturally
Speaker 1: they will just blindly accept it, apart from one senator
Speaker 1: who was brave enough to speak up.
Speaker 29: Now, the idea that AFL fans and players are expected
Speaker 29: to listen to these ceremonies when all they actually want
Speaker 29: to do is watch the footy is extraordinary, and one
Speaker 29: suspects that many viewers, who in principle wouln't have had
Speaker 29: a problem with these practices, are getting.
Speaker 30: As fed up, sentantic just resima seats thought to the
Speaker 30: point of order.
Speaker 4: No, I just want to enter up this speech.
Speaker 10: Seriously, can we just you know, two minutes.
Speaker 1: Yes, of course, it was the obnoxious form of Green
Speaker 1: Senator Olivia Thorpe who decided democracy is best served by
Speaker 1: her simply rudely interrupting her fellow Australians and not allowing
Speaker 1: them to.
Speaker 4: Have a what's that word again?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yes, a voice of their own. Nonetheless, Senator Antic gave
Speaker 1: it another go.
Speaker 29: But I think Australians are getting fed up with that
Speaker 29: sort of behavior in ceremonies, just like you and I are.
Speaker 29: And we haven't arrived at this point overnight. It's come
Speaker 29: because of years of indulging them at woke community meetings,
Speaker 29: wokee sports matches, woke council meeting.
Speaker 10: And the antics and the disquisumo.
Speaker 30: See, colleagues, We're only asking to listen in peace and
Speaker 30: quite for two minutes, that's all.
Speaker 10: It's not a big ask. Can we just do that one?
Speaker 10: The galley's full of people watching the behavior here. It's
Speaker 10: quite childish.
Speaker 4: Order, yes, yes, what's a clown show? That's right, the
Speaker 4: typical left.
Speaker 1: Why listen to debate when you can simply interrupt and
Speaker 1: carry on like a banshee or a bunyip or whatever
Speaker 1: other mythical screeching creature you choose to be inspired by. Still,
Speaker 1: the brave Senator Anti soldiered on trying to get a
Speaker 1: word in.
Speaker 29: It's come because of years of indulging them at woke
Speaker 29: community meetings, woke sports matches, woke council meetings and woke weddings.
Speaker 29: Who knows where else was directing Deputy President. First it
Speaker 29: was ten thousand years, then twenty, then thirty, now sixty.
Speaker 29: Now it's two hundred and fifty thousand years. And as
Speaker 29: we've said before, I don't need to be welcome to
Speaker 29: my own country in nough to you. What we witnessed
Speaker 29: before the match last weekend was a product of letting
Speaker 29: this ride for too long.
Speaker 8: Have you had enough? I certainly have.
Speaker 1: And on that note, I think Senator antiques for us
Speaker 1: all or certainly a majority of this country. And speaking
Speaker 1: of free speech, our Prime Minister this week decided to
Speaker 1: go up against Elon Musk, probably the greatest defender of
Speaker 1: free speech in the modern era. This is the same
Speaker 1: prime minister who clown show fans will remember last year
Speaker 1: declared war on comedy and satire, or rather war on
Speaker 1: comedy and satire that poked fun at him.
Speaker 13: Media platforms have a responsibility to make sure that misinformation
Speaker 13: isn't got out there. I noticed today, for example, on
Speaker 13: the way up here, they've removed various sites that were
Speaker 13: up containing fake images of myself superimposed on other people.
Speaker 4: How dreadful? Well this being clown show?
Speaker 1: How can I not show you this rather unsubtle satirical
Speaker 1: online meme of Albow talking tough to Elon Musk at
Speaker 1: the same time as one of his own tweets had
Speaker 1: been found to be inaccurate.
Speaker 13: But this bloke thinks he's above the Australian law, that
Speaker 13: he's above common decency.
Speaker 5: And I'll tell you what I say to Ela Musku
Speaker 5: that he is so out of touch.
Speaker 1: Oh dear satire, visual satire and fake imagery. Even the
Speaker 1: hardcore lefty rag Kriikee reacted to Albiniasi's idiotic censorship drive
Speaker 1: with a headline saying, quote alban Easy cements Australia's.
Speaker 4: Status as the global village idiots.
Speaker 1: And finally, my thanks to Milkbar TV for this excellent
Speaker 1: history lesson compiled with little help from Senators just In
Speaker 1: a Nampergen for price and Gerard Rennak, which should be
Speaker 1: made compulsory viewing for all school kiddies, sports promoters and
Speaker 1: noisy parliamentarians alike.
Speaker 16: When I grew up, I was told that the Aboriginal
Speaker 16: to here for twenty thousand years.
Speaker 4: Then it got extended forty thousand years.
Speaker 9: Aboriginal populations in Australia settled on their land fifty thousand years.
Speaker 5: Ago, sixty five thousand years.
Speaker 7: Seventy thousand years ago. Did you know Aboriginal history spans
Speaker 7: eighty thousand years. Yep, this is exactly right.
Speaker 16: I most Sappians apparently left Africa sixty or seventy thousand
Speaker 16: years ago.
Speaker 11: The ancestors of every single non African person alive today
Speaker 11: left Africa sometime between fifty five and seventy.
Speaker 5: Thousand years ago.
Speaker 4: I just think we're stretching the truth here.
Speaker 14: I'll welcome the country.
Speaker 19: It's a ceremony we've been doing for two hundred and
Speaker 19: fifty thousand years plus.
Speaker 7: It's turning into a bit of fantasy. Two hundred and
Speaker 7: fifty thousand years.
Speaker 4: I really don't think so.
Speaker 1: Rita and James so much lefty lunacy. To look at
Speaker 1: Katie Gallagher, who always likes to audition for clown show
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 4: She's in the lefty lunacy topic too reader, What's she
Speaker 4: up to?
Speaker 7: Very exciting For the second week in Royal Paul Enhance's
Speaker 7: Gender Biology Bill was not debated because apparently it's hateful
Speaker 7: to talk about these issues.
Speaker 9: I don't understand why this Senate should take time to
Speaker 9: inflict personal harm on vulnerable individuals.
Speaker 4: And that's what this does.
Speaker 9: And I don't care whatever way people try to dress
Speaker 9: it up and say it's something else.
Speaker 7: It is not so biological reality. Trying to preserve women's girls' rights,
Speaker 7: whether we're talking about women's sport, changing rooms, women's shelters.
Speaker 7: Apparently it's harmful and the Senate, the Australia upper House,
Speaker 7: is not fit to talk about it, according to the
Speaker 7: Minister for Women.
Speaker 11: Well, you know, this is just this is what happens
Speaker 11: when that kind of university level politics that says speech
Speaker 11: is violence and speech is harmful winds up making its
Speaker 11: way into the Senate and into our lives, and you
Speaker 11: wind up, you know, with all of these heat speech
Speaker 11: laws around the world which are really designed to crack
Speaker 11: down on free speech. But I've got a bit of
Speaker 11: a win for you guys. Apparently in Ireland, and Ireland
Speaker 11: is one of these countries that has been used as
Speaker 11: kind of a test case to try and get through
Speaker 11: bills to restrict free speech like they're trying to do
Speaker 11: here in Australia as well. They are pulling a hate
Speaker 11: speech bill which really would have been a free speech
Speaker 11: bill or free speech destroying bill. So that's a bit
Speaker 11: of good news here. Is public exactly right, and this
Speaker 11: is exactly the point here is that is that you know,
Speaker 11: the fight needs to be kept on these people. And
Speaker 11: one thing I think the government's never understands that one
Speaker 11: day the government's going to change and they're going to
Speaker 11: be on the receiving end of these things and they're
Speaker 11: not going to like it.
Speaker 1: But also the reason the IRIS pulled the bill is
Speaker 1: they would have gone full steam ahead with it, but
Speaker 1: the public, social media and what Matt Canavan said right
Speaker 1: the earlier on the show this morning was that it's
Speaker 1: really up to the public to get behind these things
Speaker 1: on social media, show their disapproval, show will not tolerate
Speaker 1: this sort of hate speech. And Katie Gallagher gave the
Speaker 1: game away there rita where she said this causes harm.
Speaker 1: So the moment you say anything causes harm. Therefore it's
Speaker 1: beyond debate. Therefore there's no more discussion.
Speaker 7: In the current But you can call conservatives biggots of
Speaker 7: course racist, that's not causing harm. You can completely insult
Speaker 7: half the population without fear of any of it. And
Speaker 7: I disagree with you, James. I don't think they need
Speaker 7: to fear that these laws will come back to get
Speaker 7: them because the bureaucracy, those who will implement these laws
Speaker 7: and police them are off the left. They know doesn't
Speaker 7: apply to them. That's why they're pushing it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Let's have a quick look at this little grab of
Speaker 1: very cleverly someone who went out to convince people to
Speaker 1: pay reparations for slavery.
Speaker 11: Cool.
Speaker 10: Do you support reparations for black people because they went
Speaker 10: through slavery? Yes?
Speaker 16: I do, actually, perfect, So we have jewel here and
Speaker 16: you can pay your reparations right now.
Speaker 10: How much do you want?
Speaker 5: What is the suffering of my ancestors worth.
Speaker 11: More than I can pay right now?
Speaker 10: So do you want to set up like a payment plan?
Speaker 2: No, but I do believe it's the responsibility of our
Speaker 2: government to taking more action.
Speaker 7: Well, I did not have MO I did not have PayPal,
Speaker 7: and I am.
Speaker 10: Broke, which I would pay if you could. Yeah, but
Speaker 10: I don't understand why you're collecting money.
Speaker 5: For it because I'm a black person in my ancestors
Speaker 5: or sleeves. Yeah, but it's like.
Speaker 11: Red Lodge.
Speaker 4: That's it for outside as. We'll see you next Sunday
Speaker 4: at nine a m.
Speaker 8: Thank you, had a great week.