1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gaddigle Land Always Was, Always 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land. Hey Chicks, I'm out and I'm 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: so and this is two broad Chicks, the show that 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: shares life lessons and tips to help make you rich 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: in life. 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: And what about another cheeky Tuesday. How's the week. It's 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: been a good week. It's gone quick. 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, We've had so much on it's been great. I 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: felt like this week's been like seven years. 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: But when I think about, like what we were doing 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: on Monday, who was that? 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 2: Who was she? 14 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Literally I was on Tuesday. I kept thinking it was Wednesday. 15 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: It was one of those week And it's great when 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: it's on the flip when you think oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: I love. 18 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: That and you're like, oh, it's only Tuesday ago, Wait, no, 19 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: it's Wednesday. 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: Waking up on a Saturday thinking that it's a workday 21 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: and realizing it's a Saturday is maybe top ten best. 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: Feeling in the world one thousand percent. 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Today's episode, we're talking about the cult of the cool 24 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: girl and how to escape it. We had some stories 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: up this week about you know, if you've noticed this 26 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: rise of you know, the cool girl, esthetic, cool girl 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: marketing and whether or not it's inspiration or it's become 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: a little bit of a cult. So before we get 29 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: into that, Sally, it's dame. These are obsessions, all right. 30 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: What you got My obsession of the week is a 31 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: new you smell nice fragrance. Oh oh shit, it's me 32 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: and it's the new by Rosie Jane fragrance Matilda should 33 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: say this guy. 34 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so beautiful. 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind of cheating because we went to 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: the House of Sephora event where they showcase a lot 37 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: of new arrivals, brands stuff like that, so it's always 38 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: really fun to like play and test some of the 39 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: new fragrances. And yeah, by Rosie Jane, have this new 40 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: Matilda fragrance and it smells like passion fruit, meringue and 41 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: golden musk. 42 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: I've never smelt anything like it. 43 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: It is so so gorgeous and I'm a huge passion 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: fruit fan, but I don't think I've ever had a 45 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: passion fruit scent before I was I was looking because 46 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: I was going to see if you did a tongue 47 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:35,559 Speaker 1: things talks about something that is really yummy. 48 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 2: She gets salivates. It's the hugest. So whenever you start 49 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: talking about something yummy, I like really look to be like, 50 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: show it to me. 51 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: I'm salivating. It's a perfume. It's just not right. No, 52 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: but okay, like when you think about like a passion 53 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: fruit mahido for example, Yeah, exactly, don't I. 54 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: Know it sparkle in my I know you are, I 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: know you're kid. 56 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's new it Sephora. I think it's it's 57 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: like one hundred and sixty eight dollars fucking yeah. 58 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: So a bit cristy. 59 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: But I will say my birthday is coming up, so 60 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: if anybody is shortened ideas, but yeah, knew it's Sophora. 61 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: Check it out. Also sales, so I'm like that's fine. 62 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's after pay day coming up exactly, and 63 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: I think yeah, and they typically do twenty percent off 64 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: with a minimum spend, and that is over the minimum spent. Yes, 65 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: so fingers cross, that'll be included, bingers cross, that'll be 66 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: in your little birthday stocking maybe intinthint night. 67 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your obsession? My obsession of the week is. 68 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: A new TV show I've been watching. I think a 69 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: lot of people are getting around this at the moment. 70 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: But it's called the Pit. It's a wonderful day to 71 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: save lives. I am so locked in. I loved Gray's 72 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: Anatomy back in the day. I've told story before where 73 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: I like dumped a guy for two weeks so I 74 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: could just watch that and then anyway, after two weeks 75 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: he came back and he was. 76 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: Like, let's hang out, and I was like, oh, okay, 77 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: I'm done. 78 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: But anyway, so the hit is basically set in the emergency, 79 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: like the ear of an American hospital in Pittsburgh. 80 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: Hence the pit. 81 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I didn't well, fuck, I didn't even think 82 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: of that. 83 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: I just thought they called it the pick because it 84 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: was like, maybe it is. It's a double Yeah, is 85 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 2: a very sexual. It's like titillating on Hondra. Titilating. Did 86 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: you see that? 87 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: Someone said the word titillating is in Harry styles new album. 88 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: I just got full body chills. Let me get the DM. 89 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: We are connected, We're meant to be together. 90 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: Hallie, he has a girlfriend. I don't care. 91 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: With that. 92 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: Okay, this is from Georgie. She goes huge day for 93 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: the chicks. 94 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: Mister Harry Styles has dropped the word titillated in the 95 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: new album. 96 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: I heard it and had to replay it because the 97 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: only place. 98 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: I've ever heard that word used is on the any 99 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: who Hope you got a neat copyright lawyer. 100 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: Mister Harry is in trouble. I love that. Well, I 101 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: don't know. 102 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: I want to know how I feel when I listened 103 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: to Harry Styles simulated anyway can do Back to the Pit? 104 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: Back to the Pit. 105 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: So the episodes are set by an hour, so like 106 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: episode one is seven am to eight am, and it's 107 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: all the things that happen in that one hour. Then 108 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: the next episode is eight am to nine am, and 109 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: it's just fucked. 110 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: Like what you see. So it's like a team. 111 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: They have an attending who's like the head of the pit, 112 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: then two residents like who are the next senior, and 113 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: then they have med students because it's like a teaching hospital, 114 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: So those are kind of the structure of your characters. 115 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: And then you've got all like the amazing nurses who 116 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: are just so. 117 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: Fucking cool, yeah, and I'm obsessed with them, and then 118 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: the patients patients, yeah, and so you just see all 119 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: these things of people you know, coming into emergency and 120 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 3: how they have to deal with and structure cases by 121 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: who needs to be seen, and the fact that you 122 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: know people are there with like a sprain risk being. 123 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: Like I've been if. 124 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: And there's like literally someone bleeding out on the floor 125 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: and I dress. 126 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: There's like a couple of things that I took from 127 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: one amazing. 128 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: Show but two fucking nurses and doctors are just the 129 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: coolest fucking people in the world and they have literally 130 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: the hardest job in the world. And there's been like 131 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: a couple things this week that I've been like like 132 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: that have not been the ideal situation, right, And I 133 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: feel like I've had like if I was going to 134 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: rate this week, I'd probably put it at like a 135 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: four or five like of stress. 136 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 2: But then I watch this show and I go, we're. 137 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: Good, We're fine, Like if this was happening one if 138 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm that patient, or two if I'm that doctor and 139 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: this is what I'm stressed about, We're so fine, we 140 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: are so bad, We're so good. 141 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: And I really like that in a show. As I've said, Little. 142 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: Dams perspective, perspective, and it's just it's so it's such 143 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: a raw inside. It's not like horny like Gray's Anatomy 144 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: is but I just love it. How many seasons are there? 145 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: So the first season is fully out and the second 146 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: season I think has just come out. I haven't skipped ahead. Okay, see, 147 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: but there's season two. But with HBO sometimes it's like 148 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: one two over, like the couple of weeks. Yeah. 149 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Rob was like this show is so good. 150 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: This show is so goodl and I was like yeah, 151 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: and here goes, oh, we're nearly done. I said no, 152 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: this season two and he goes, I'm not watching it? 153 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: Why because season one. 154 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: Is so good? Oh, so he doesn't want to doesn't 155 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: want to ruin it because. 156 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: He just goes season two won't be as good, just 157 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: just blanket like that. 158 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: And I was like roh but and he was like, no, 159 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: i't want to watch it. It won't be as good. 160 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: It'll ruin the show. 161 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: And it's like definitely like an anxiety response, that's something 162 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: I would do. 163 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like no, because it won't be as good. 164 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: And I was like, you don't know that. 165 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: So is the whole season set over one day? And 166 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: then each episode is in an hour shift? Yeah? 167 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: One ship season. 168 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then each hour yeah, so it's like seven 169 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: So episode one is seven am, Episode two is eight a, 170 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: Episode three is nine am. And that also would just 171 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: show like I'm sure it's dramatized at the TV show, 172 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: but it would show the. 173 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,559 Speaker 2: Hour to hour how wild it is. 174 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it just I think it gives you, even 175 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: though we should have so much empathy and understanding for 176 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: healthcare workers, I think it really hits that home of 177 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: like fuck pay nurse is more like first of all, 178 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: like it's just yeah, whatever. 179 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: Our frontline workers are getting paid is not enough. 180 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, if I could like crawl into everyone's living room 181 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: via like a window, not the front door because that's boring, 182 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: but just. 183 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: The down chimney. For me, I'm more picturing like the 184 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: ring conjuring like ceiling crawl with dim. 185 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a bit scared post like hair wash 186 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: as well, so he's like really frizzy. 187 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: Like can brush your teeth for a few days, got 188 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:51,359 Speaker 2: to commit. 189 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: And just like pressing a button on your TV and 190 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: then crawling out and like a real scuttle in then 191 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: scuttle out. 192 00:08:59,160 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: Could I watch? 193 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: There are some very gory, hard to watch scenes. 194 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: But I just like closed my eyes. 195 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: If you are really really really turned off blood, like 196 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: really can't watch Blood. 197 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: Probably not for you. 198 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: Okay, there are really sweet moments though, because I get 199 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: to see the moments where like, you know, they thought 200 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: someone was going to die and they don't you see 201 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: their family. Yeah yeah, But then there are moments where 202 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, they're not like a high risk patient, 203 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: but then like the one percent chance happens. Yeah. 204 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, So shall we get into the episode. Yep, let's 205 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: get into it corfect. Okay, let's start by. 206 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: Setting the context and this like rise of the cool girl, 207 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: but also the history of it. Yeah, because the concept 208 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: of the cool girl, that girl, et cetera seems kind 209 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: of like a new topic, right Like, it's something that 210 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: we've definitely been saying on our feeds and in discourse 211 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: in the last five or so years. I would say, 212 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: But the concept of the cool girl, when I was 213 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: looking into it, I realized actually stems from the it girl, 214 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: which isn't a new concept at all. Like when you 215 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: look back over the last one hundred years in pop culture, 216 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: every decade has been signified by one or multiple it girls, right, Like, 217 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: there are so many examples that you could pull from, 218 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: like you know, Marilyn Monroe, Aman Kate Moss, Gigi Hadid, Kendall, Alexa. 219 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: Chow is a big moment girly shout out. 220 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: Honestly, I think she's never truly over like that group 221 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: of girlies. I don't think that stranglehold will ever ever 222 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: be lessened. 223 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: Don't you reckon like she's just an it girl forever. 224 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: But I thought that that was really interesting because it 225 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: is something that we've seen over history, but it was individuals, right, 226 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: And I was reading an article published in Vogue around 227 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: the history of the it girl, and they described her 228 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: as the it girl is defined more than a person. 229 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: She is an aesthetic, a cultural moment, a business distilled 230 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: in to human form. She embodies the zeitgeist of her error, 231 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: serving as a lens through which her generation perceives and 232 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: defines itself while always standing. 233 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 2: Apart from it. 234 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: So basically the girl kind of like breaks away from 235 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: the norm and the trend, but then she eventually ushers 236 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: in what becomes a trend and while like thet girl 237 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: definitely still exists, right, like we have Hailey Bieber for example, 238 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: I would say is probably the it girl of the moment. 239 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: Would you agree? Who else? She's so many now? 240 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: I think you could go Taylor Swift, Sabrina Carpenter, Selena 241 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: Gomez like, yeah, yeah. In terms of taste makers of 242 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: like style and fashion and trends, I would say that 243 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: Hailey Bieber probably sets like trends across like the board 244 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: for style, beauty and even business as well. But I 245 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: do think that the concept of the it girl has 246 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: been democratized, like you said, because of Internet culture, especially 247 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: because previously, when we're looking back over the last one 248 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: hundred years, a lot of those it girls were actresses 249 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: and models and people who we would have seen in 250 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: magazines and film and TV shows. Right. But you could 251 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: even argue that somebody like Alex Earl is an it 252 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: girl and she has influenced a lot of the trends 253 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: and what people think is cool now. 254 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: But because we have so many. 255 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: Celebrities because of influencers and content creators, and there's so 256 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: much more content that we consume, I think we've moved 257 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: away from this concept of just having the it girl, 258 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: and now we have the cool girl as an umbrella term, 259 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: and rather than just following people, we're following aesthetics. 260 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 261 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: I do think marketing also comes into this as well, 262 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: and rather than TikTok aesthetics, which, like the cool girl, 263 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: is this natural evolution from that girl, which was a 264 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: natural evolution from the it girl. 265 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: Whereas that girl becomes like an umbrella term, it expands. 266 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: Then you get clean girl, then you get tomato girl, 267 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,239 Speaker 1: then you get mob wife. And it's these TikTok aesthetics. 268 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: And we'll get into this a little bit later when 269 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: we talk about, you know, the cost of being a 270 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: cool girl. But it's the fact that when you look 271 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: at those aesthetics, it is a niched down thing, but 272 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: then cool girl allows it to become an umbrella term. 273 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: So for example, if we put like tomato girl and 274 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: mob wife aesthetic next to each other, a fur jacket 275 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: only fits into one of those things. Because smarto girls 276 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: like tomato girl. You're is that much where we discuss 277 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: this in our episode. Women are not trends, right. The 278 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: reason why the cool girl has taken off is because 279 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: people can fit whatever they want under that umbrella, whereas 280 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: previously these other TikTok aesthetics were niche categories. So now 281 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: it's a marketing tool to kind of expand that. 282 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: But the cool girl. 283 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: As you know, a term as a thing, actually was 284 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: kind of born more. 285 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 2: From the movie Gone Girl. 286 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: So there's this really iconic monologue in Gone Girl, and 287 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: it just eats boots down house Mama. 288 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a reason it's iconic. So I'm going to 289 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: read out a snippet of it. 290 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: You're really excited, hit me Okay. Men always say that 291 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: as a defining compliment, don't they. 292 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: She's a cool girl. Being a cool girl. 293 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: Means I am a hot, brilliant, funny woman who adores football, poker, 294 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: dirty jokes, and burping, who plays video games, drinks cheap beer, 295 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: loves threesomes and anal sex. She jams hot dogs and 296 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: hamburgers into her mouth like she's hosting the world's biggest 297 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: culinary gang bang, while somehow maintaining a size too. Because 298 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: cool girls are above all hot, hot and understanding. 299 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: Cool girls never get angry. 300 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: They only smile in a chargrined, loving manner and let 301 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: their men do whatever they want. Go ahead, shit on me. 302 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: I don't mind. I'm the cool girl. And I thought 303 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: it was very interesting this because it's like the other 304 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: side of the coin to the conversation of the pick 305 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: me girl. 306 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, when you think of it, and. 307 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: It's like because when you look at it, it's like 308 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: that's from the men's perspective, but it's like, oh, that's 309 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: what we want. But then there's also that side of 310 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: the like the women against women, and it's like, oh, 311 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: that's such a pick me, but also women want to 312 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: be cool. But and how this like avalanche is right. 313 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: I also wanted to pull in another pop culture reference 314 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: of this conversation, and it's America Ferreri's monologue in. 315 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: The Barbie movie. 316 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: I do think, as always with these trends, never starts 317 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: out to be a failure, never starts out to like 318 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: put anyone down. And I do genuinely think anyone who 319 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: has made content or done thing like we've made content 320 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: using that term before, we don't do it black. We're 321 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: moving away from it because you know, we've started thinking 322 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: about it like this. 323 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: But I don't think anyone goes. 324 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: Out with the intention to be like, ooh, I'm trying 325 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: to bring women down. No, I don't think it's an 326 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: inherently bad n But anyway, this is the monologue from Barbie, 327 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: and she goes, you have to be thin but not 328 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: too thin, and you can never say you want to 329 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: be thin, you have to say you want to be healthy. 330 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: But you also have to be thin. You have to 331 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: have money, but you can't ask for money because that's chriss. 332 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: You have to be a boss, but you can't be mean. 333 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: You have to lead, but you can't squash other people's ideas. 334 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: You're supposed to love being a mother, but don't talk 335 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: about your kids all the damn time. You have to 336 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: be a career woman, but also always be looking out 337 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: for other people. You have to answer the man's bad behavior, 338 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: which is insane, but if you point that out, you're 339 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: accused of complaining. You're supposed to stay pretty for men, 340 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: but not so pretty that you tempt them too much, 341 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: or that you threaten other women because you're supposed to 342 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: be part of the sisterhood, but always stand out and 343 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: always be grateful, but never forget that the system is rigged, 344 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: so find a way to acknowledge. 345 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: That, but always also be grateful. 346 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single 347 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: other woman tie herself in knots so that people will 348 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: like us us, and that I think encompassed really kind 349 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: of how I feel about these trending aesthetics or that 350 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: girls or clean girls or cool girls, because when we 351 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: were even discussing this episode, I'm like, what is that? 352 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 2: Yeah? What is it? And nobody knows what it means. 353 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: It's provocative, it gets the people going. It's on purpose, yeah, 354 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: because if no one knows what it means and you can. 355 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 2: Never actually be it, yeah, it can always change. It's 356 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 2: a trap, you know. 357 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: And again, as when it started, I don't think it 358 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: is ever intentioned or on purpose to be that. But 359 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: I think the power lies in actually checking yourself more 360 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: than you know, policing how it's brought to you is 361 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: more thinking. 362 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 2: Okay, well, how do I actually align to that? Do 363 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: I care? Does that make me feel cool? Do I 364 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 2: need that handbag to be cool? 365 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: Because if you constantly need to buy something to feel 366 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: like a cool girl, you'll never be a cool girl. 367 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: Like that doesn't come from external validation. And we actually 368 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 1: asked our audience, you know, if they've noticed this rise 369 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: of the cool girl, and there are more than three 370 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: point two million posts under the hashtag cool girl on 371 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: TikTok and one point four million on Instagram, and so 372 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: fifty six percent of our audience feel like the cool 373 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: girl aesthetic is everywhere, And so we're going to kind 374 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: of break down how this not only has risen, but 375 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: how it actually is an issue because the fact is 376 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: trying to constantly keep up with this trend is not 377 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: only exhausting, but it costs. 378 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: A lot of money. 379 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, on average, trends only last from a few 380 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: weeks to a couple months, and typically the life cycle 381 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: of the trend begins with content creators or influences going online. 382 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: Kind of what you were saying before, like we've seen 383 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: this shift from what previously. 384 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: You know, trends were found on the runway, and then 385 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: they would be published in magazines and then smaller fast 386 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: fashion brands and pick up those trends, and then they 387 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: go out to the mass consumer and then once everyone 388 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: has it, no one wants it. 389 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 390 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: So then it's then the cycle continue to continues, and 391 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: according to Emmy Luumclean, marketing manager at Universal Group, the 392 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: women's cycle of trends typically moves faster than men, especially 393 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: when it comes to fashion. 394 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 2: Shock to my one, Oh my god. 395 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: So we ask fifteen thousand women how much they spend 396 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: per month to keep up with trends, and seventy eight 397 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: percent said they spend up to one hundred dollars a 398 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: month to keep up with trends, which is over a 399 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a year trying to be a cool girl. 400 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like hardly surprised. 401 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: I don't. 402 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: I watched it every fucking time it pops up. Yeah, 403 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: I'm like, and like, that's the thing is. 404 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: It's it started as this niche content thing, right, and 405 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: then now I feel like every second video is like 406 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: what cool girls are wearing in Europe? What cool girl 407 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: ham bag should you have? What cool girl shoes for autumn? 408 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: And I'm like, cool girl hobbies, cool girl hobbies, cool 409 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: girl money hacks, whatever it is, right, And again I'm like, 410 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: we've also made this content totally. 411 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 2: So I'm like we were like, oh, this is fun, 412 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 2: this is fun. 413 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: But I think it's okay to also, yeah, reflect on 414 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: things that you've done and then go actually and maybe 415 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: have apparently but put on like your critical glasses for 416 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: a second and just actually take it in. And I 417 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: think it just it had that natural development because I 418 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: think it's how you view it. 419 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: In my eyes, it was like intelligence and fun and 420 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 2: like blah blah blah. 421 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: It's aspirational, but then when you get into it, you're 422 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: like shit, yeah. So according to Business Inside of keeping 423 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: up with the latest trends of micro trends can be 424 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: a serious driver. 425 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: Of impulse spending. 426 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: A lot of what's trending is found on social media, 427 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: and platforms like TikTok have found a way to capitalize 428 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: on this. 429 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 2: And then we. 430 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: Don't have it yet, but TikTok shop. So I was 431 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: listening to this podcast are linked in the show notes 432 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: where she talked about the cool girl paradox and how 433 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: kind of what you were saying before that the idea 434 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: of the cool girl is like this. 435 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: Niche goes against the grain. She stands out, she doesn't 436 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: care what people think. She's incredibly unique. She's so cool, right. 437 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: She then continues to say, However, there is this oxymoron 438 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: to saying this handbag is for cool girls. When it's 439 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: a mass produced TikTok shop product and it goes viral 440 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: and everyone then has it, it's like, yeah, begs the 441 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: question like if everybody has it, does that mean that 442 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: it's not cool girl? 443 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: So then you don't want it anymore exactly so. 444 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: Ernest Analytics is a research firm that tracks credit and 445 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: debit transactions, and, according to their data in twenty twenty four, 446 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: on average US users who made TikTok shop purchases spent 447 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: about sixty seven dollars between mid June and mid July, 448 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: compared to around fifty four dollars over a four week 449 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: period in January. TikTok shop has fifteen million uses worldwide, 450 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand of their sellers are based in the US, 451 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: and Australia has more than eight point five million TikTok users. 452 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 2: And the reason why I'm referencing this is because TikTok 453 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 2: shop is. 454 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: About to launch in Australia. And if we think about 455 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: how easy it is to impose spend like guilty been there, 456 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: how is this going to affect the way that we 457 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: spend money and look at money when these terms are 458 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: pulled in and fueled to encourage spending. Because it's like 459 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: this natch, like we were saying before the umbrella market 460 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: marketing term, and you could pick any product and just 461 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: match it with that cool girl uti medication like. 462 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, being like cool girl medicine cabinet. 463 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, which sounds fucking crazy. 464 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's true. And I think cool girl car accessories. 465 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: It works for everything. And I'm like in here trying 466 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: to retrain my brain. 467 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: Because I'm like, I would watch that, Yeah, exactly, because 468 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: I don't have like a personal experience with TikTok shop 469 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: obviously because it hasn't launched in Australia yet. And yeah, 470 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: I'm sure it could be a really cool way to 471 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: like discover new products and brand. 472 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 2: And stuff like that. 473 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: Unintended Huh, Yeah, it was unintended, but I think again, 474 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: it's having that understanding, like the way I'm being marketed 475 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: to is it because it's being marketed as something that 476 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: a cool girl would have, and that's why I want it. 477 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: I was actually reading an article that was published this 478 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: week by The Commonwealth Times about the cool girl and 479 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: I was like, it's on the brain. But the author 480 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: apologies if I pronounce her surname incorrectly. Grace mclory described 481 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: that being a cool girl is not about personality, hobbies 482 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: or ideals. 483 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: It is about consumerism, and. 484 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: I was like, you're so right for that, Like we 485 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: look at it that it's like a lifestyle and that 486 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: it is really like fun and I do think it 487 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: can be, but it is a marketing tactic and a 488 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: lot of the time it's being used as a way 489 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: to get. 490 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: Us to buy things. 491 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want anyone who's listening to this to 492 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: think that if you do enjoy you know, that content, 493 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: or you enjoy that aesthetic or whatever, that is, like 494 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: that's a bad thing. 495 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: It's not. 496 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: Like, No, there's so many things that content that I 497 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: have found really useful. I agree, for example, like brands 498 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: that cool girl shop, like, I actually have discovered a 499 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: lot of small brands, a lot of small brands that 500 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: I probably would have otherwise, or like even books that 501 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: cool girls read, Like, there are so many things that 502 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: I discoverability. Yeah, so that's yeah. I think I like 503 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: the discoverability nature of it. I think what I am 504 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: changing in my way that I look at it is 505 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: the goal shouldn't be to be a cool girl exactly. 506 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: But there's not only like a financial costs to it, 507 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: but an energy cost to it and a labor Yeah. Well, 508 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: because sometimes when you're watching this content, you're like, if 509 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: I not cool, like, do I feel lesser than as well? 510 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 2: I don't enough to be in. 511 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: A band if I don't fit into this. But then 512 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: the irony of the cool girl is that she is 513 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: supposed to be low effort, Like it's she That's what 514 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: I'm saying you know, yeah, exactly, but you know a 515 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: lot of the things it's like, oh, like yeah, this 516 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: just comes naturally to her, like she is effortlessly cool. 517 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: But then at the same time, we're being marketed to 518 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: that we need to tick all these boxes to achieve that. 519 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: So even like no makeup, makeup or outfits that are 520 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: supposed to be effortlessly stylish, but actually you spent a 521 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: lot of time and money achieving it, right, Like, it 522 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: takes up a lot of brain space. And again, if 523 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: you do prefer that no makeup, look, that's great. But 524 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: I think it's the issue when you're you feel like 525 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: you're being torn between because one second you're told that 526 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: you should be wearing full glam, and then the next 527 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: you're being told like, oh no, that's not cool anymore. 528 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: It's all about like you four a makeup. Yeah, no, 529 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: we're not wearing any makeup. Oh we're doing this and 530 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: you're like huh yeah. 531 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: And like we often say when we are discussing trends, 532 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: it's amazing to pull inspiration and find new things from 533 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: these things, but it's always having your north star of 534 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: what you actually like and knowing that you don't have 535 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: to tick off all of these things if you don't 536 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: like it genuinely. I think my issue with this from 537 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: it that it's like kind of from that monologue above 538 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: as well. 539 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: And it's like, Oh, she's so cool, she's so chill. 540 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: I have never been chill for one fucking second in 541 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: my entire life. I think I'm allergic to being chill. 542 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: I'm a million miles an hour or I'm asleep, and 543 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: there's no in between. I hope that, like the girl 544 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: is listening to this, that have always felt like a 545 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: little bit too much and do sometimes yell when they 546 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: get excited or they have really big feelings, or they 547 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: have those moments that it's like, I've never been the 548 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: check and I. 549 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: Don't think I could be if I tried. 550 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: And growing up, I always felt that there was something 551 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: a little bit missing from me or wrong with me 552 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: because I couldn't be chill. And that's this thing that 553 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: it's like that was and has always been positioned as 554 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: this idealness to a woman, when really it's because people 555 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: don't want women to have big feelings. People don't want 556 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: women to be angry, they don't want the feminine rage. 557 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: They don't and I'm not saying that chill people are 558 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: chill women or anything like that. If you are a 559 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: little if you're more of a cool cucumber, if you're 560 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: a nonchalant quay that there's anything wrong with that, But 561 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: there's also nothing wrong with not being chill. Well, kind 562 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: of like what we were saying by that like Gone 563 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: Girl monologue. This idea of the chill cool girl is 564 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: very much shaped by pop culture, but it's also created 565 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: by the patriarchy in a lot of ways, and it 566 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: can be quite a dangerous dating and relationship trope. And 567 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: I was like, when we were doing research for this, 568 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: a lot of of the things that have been written 569 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: about the cool girl are in relation to relationships and dating. 570 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: And I was reading an article that was published by 571 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: Strike magazine and they were talking about the cool girl 572 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: and pop culture and some of the characters that embody 573 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: that who they referred to Robyn from How I Met 574 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: Your Mother, Yep, Donna from that seventies show, or MICHAELA 575 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: from Transformers, Megantiz's character. These characters are positioned as just 576 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: one of the guys. They have hobbies that a lot 577 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: of their male counterparts like, but they're still hyper sexualized 578 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: and they're not necessarily evolved beyond yeah that even like 579 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: the manic pixie dream girl, she's the eccentric, bubbly girl 580 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: who basically just exists so that she can show her 581 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: broody boyfriend that. 582 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: Like, it's okay to embrace life, and that's her purpose tick. 583 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: And again we have to say there is nothing wrong 584 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: with women who enjoy and genuinely like things that may 585 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: be stereotypically targeted towards matter, Like if you love sport, 586 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: if you love beer, if you love cars, there is 587 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. And if anything, fuck yeah, we 588 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: love that. I think the issue with the cool girl 589 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: in this instance in pop culture is that there's no 590 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: nuance to these characters. 591 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 2: They're not complex. 592 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: They are purely written by men for men as a 593 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: reflection of what they want to see, and that they 594 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: like all the things that they like. They serve them 595 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: to a purpose, whatever that may be. But they don't 596 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: really have opinions of their own that might be uncomfortable, 597 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: or they don't maybe show like big emotions that could 598 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: be complex that the men then has to respond to 599 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: or cater to. And the reason that this can have 600 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: a potentially dangerous impact on especially heterosexual relationships. Is that 601 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: we see these characters in pop culture and you think like, oh, 602 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: well that's who I should be. 603 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't want to upset. Yeah, don't say 604 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: that they did something wrong. 605 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: Don't text, don't you know, don't call, don't cry, don't. 606 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: Do any of this. Yeah, because then you're too much. 607 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: Then you're annoying, Then you're emotional, or maybe don't show 608 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: passion about the things that are silly or frivolous in 609 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: air quotes, or that are girly or whatever it may be. 610 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: Because I want I'm chill. 611 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure chill. Yeah, I'm so easy. Don't worry about it. 612 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: Oh you can't come to my birthday because you want 613 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: to go watch the footy. 614 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: Oh no, that's fine, so chill. 615 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: But it's like it's actually not fine. That's actually true, Allen, exactly. 616 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: Like it can influence us to maybe quiet in some 617 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: of the things that we're interested in, or not feel 618 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: comfortable or safe to communicate how we're really feeling, and 619 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: to fit ourselves in a mold that maybe feels more 620 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,959 Speaker 1: attractive to a man, whether or not they've set that 621 00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: standard or no. 622 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: Or it's pressure that you feel. 623 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: From society and there's also a lot of rhetoric online 624 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: in recent years about men desiring chill or low maintenance partners, 625 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: especially in like the red pill ideology part of the Internet, 626 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: which is very scary part of the Internet, and psychologist 627 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: Mark Travis suggests that modern misogyny of this red pill 628 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: ideology emphasizes traditional gender roles and calling them the natural 629 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: way of life, which places women to be submissive and obedient, 630 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: which is obviously gross and not the vibe like caring 631 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: about things is cool, Showing your emotions is cool. That 632 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you have to be the loudest person 633 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: in the room. Doesn't mean that you have to have 634 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: big feelings all the time. If you are, you know, 635 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of the cool cucumber, like we said, 636 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: but like whatever is like your go to and how 637 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: you genuinely feel like that's cool? Yes, And I think 638 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: that's a great way to get into our final segment 639 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: of this episode, and it's how to actually embrace your 640 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: cool girl and maybe a little bit of cool girl. 641 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: Rebellion Lover a new study that came out in twenty 642 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: twenty five, and it was actually covered in multiple articles 643 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: including The New York Times, and it actually suggested that 644 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: there are six specific traits that cool people have in common. 645 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to read this out, but then I've got 646 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: some thoughts on this. Okay, So, cool people are largely 647 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: perceived to be extraverted, hedonistic, powerful, adventurous, open, and autonomous. 648 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 2: And what I found really interesting. 649 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: About that list is that if you don't have anything 650 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: on that list, that's fine. Nothing on that list also 651 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: mentioned anything about your physical attributes, nothing about your looks. 652 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: Because there is a YouTube video from a linked in 653 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: the bio, but it's video essay on like to stop 654 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: being the cool girl, and she does mention how a 655 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: lot of these examples of the cool girl is basically 656 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: a skinny white woman. Yeah, you know, and that really 657 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: when we look at these studies, that's not how you look, 658 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: and that the most consistent trait of a cool person 659 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: was being capable. 660 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: Oh I love that. 661 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: I agree this type of person is not only perceived 662 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,479 Speaker 1: as cool, but good. And I'm not meaning that and 663 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't as in good girl, but it's a good person. 664 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: You're capable of empathy, you're capable of kindness, you're capable 665 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: of helping people, of getting something done, and that is 666 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: I think the perfect way to look at it. 667 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: And also you don't always have to be capable, right, But. 668 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: I think the reason I like that list is because 669 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: it didn't actually mean you have to buy anything. All 670 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: of those things are already like in you as a person. 671 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: So this cool girl that looks a certain way doesn't 672 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: exist because she doesn't exist. And that there are small 673 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: little micro habits that you can build if you do 674 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: feel you know, anxiety around being chill or speaking up 675 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: for yourself or all of those little things that according 676 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: to psychology today, they have three tips to embrace this 677 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: a little bit more and to actually be your authentic 678 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: cool girl. Because we put up a question box on 679 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: Instagram and we asked the chicks, like how do they 680 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: embrace their cool girl? By far, the most common answer 681 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: to how to be a cool girl in twenty twenty 682 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: six was to be authentic. It was wearing the clothes 683 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: you already own. There was a message that said, I'm 684 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: a cartoon character. I have my signature outfit. 685 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, how the cartoon characters have the same outfit the Simpsons. 686 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's your signature style, it's your uniform. And like 687 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: someone said that and I was like love that, but 688 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: it was being authentic. It was having your values, knowing 689 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 1: your values, and knowing what's true to you. 690 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 2: So the top three ways to. 691 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: You know, embrace your inn cool if you will was one, 692 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: notice where you self shrink, pay attention to the moments 693 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 1: when you downplay your feelings, soften your tone, or silence 694 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: your voice in service of being more easy going. Number 695 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: two practice owning your opinions. Start small, Say what you 696 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: want for dinner, speak up in a meeting, ask for 697 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: what you need without cushioning it in a dozen qualifiers, 698 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: which I was like, don't we all fucking do that? 699 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: Being like, what do you want for dinner? I don't mind? 700 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 2: What do you want? 701 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: Oh? I could do Chinese or I could get Italian, 702 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: or like, I don't mind, I'm super easy like and 703 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: then number three redefined strength. So being emotionally expressive doesn't 704 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: make you weak, being direct doesn't make you rude. You 705 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 1: can be both strong and sensitive because those things were 706 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: never opposites. 707 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: I love that. Yee, what a beautiful way to end 708 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 2: the episode. 709 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm so proud of the chicks that the most common 710 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: answer was The epitome of being a genuine, authentic cool girl. 711 00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: Is to be yourself. 712 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and in a world where we're constantly being marketed 713 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: to that being the curl and the curly girl, that 714 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: being the cool girl means buying X Y Z or 715 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: changing these things about yourself or being more like this person. 716 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 2: Remember that everyone is the cool girl. 717 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: As young as you're being yourself, girl, you're already the 718 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: cool girl. My mom thinks, so cool, my mom thinks, 719 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: so you're my mom. 720 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 2: Well that's a rap. 721 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: That's a wrap for today's episode, Chicks and does always 722 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: feel free to have your say in the comments. How 723 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: do you embrace your authentic cool girl self? 724 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 2: And thanks so much for listening to today's episode. Love you, 725 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 2: we love to be here. Bye Chicks