Speaker 1: Matt, you are looking absolutely glowing today. What's your secret?
Speaker 2: Well, Anna, I've been using this new hydrating tanning myss
Speaker 2: called Goldy B with two e's.
Speaker 1: I have to check it out. I've never heard of it.
Speaker 2: Go to their instagram.
Speaker 1: I want the fairy tale. I want the prince charming
Speaker 1: she How.
Speaker 2: Do I put?
Speaker 3: This?
Speaker 2: Isn't a fan of my kissing.
Speaker 3: Style boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours.
Speaker 1: He's in a trash bit. He's non recyclable. Catching him mu.
Speaker 2: I love being love.
Speaker 1: I love love. I knew you were going to think
Speaker 1: you were secure. You're so not secure.
Speaker 3: Where's Your Head At is a podcast that talks all
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Speaker 2: This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip,
Speaker 2: intimate details, advice, and much more. Good morning, Anna.
Speaker 1: Hello, the sun is shining. I'm feeling good. How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm feeling good as well. Actually you know
Speaker 2: what I'm not. That's let's start off with my ick turnoff.
Speaker 1: Oh week, cat straight into it.
Speaker 2: I am so My turn off is a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago. I played flag football NFL flag football. You
Speaker 2: know how much I love American football.
Speaker 1: You do, absolutely froth it.
Speaker 2: Love it. Got invited to play flag, which is a
Speaker 2: how do you put it? It's a variation of NFL.
Speaker 2: So it's all the same except you can't tackle. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you got to pull the flags off people. That's
Speaker 2: technically the.
Speaker 1: Tackle, right, it's like a bit more like you know.
Speaker 2: Kid friendly, say yeah, say that did not stop me
Speaker 2: from being so fucking sore. I have never felt so
Speaker 2: sore in my life, my lower back.
Speaker 1: So it's just not as fit as you used to be.
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
Speaker 2: Well, that is my that's my ick, is that we
Speaker 2: are getting old. I'm now twenty nine, am I? No,
Speaker 2: I'm twenty eight. Sorry you're acting I'm twenty eight. Your
Speaker 2: what are you know? Thirty one? Thirty one?
Speaker 1: Thirty one and having some fun?
Speaker 2: Well, everyone listenings like they're not old. They're not old,
Speaker 2: or you might be listening going geez, that's old.
Speaker 3: You know what's funny and interesting is I remember when
Speaker 3: I was in my modeling days and I think I
Speaker 3: was about twenty four and there was a girl who
Speaker 3: I knew was older, and I remember saying, how old
Speaker 3: are you? And she said to me, I'm thirty one,
Speaker 3: and I remember thinking, geez, she's getting on. And I
Speaker 3: remember actually saying to her, which is so offensive now
Speaker 3: as a thirty one year old for people to say
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 1: I went, oh, but you look so good for thirty one.
Speaker 3: I literally said that to her, and so.
Speaker 2: I've got secondhand embarrassment.
Speaker 3: Someone has actually recently, a younger influencer actually said to me,
Speaker 3: I can't believe you're thirty one.
Speaker 1: You look so young. And I was like, but I
Speaker 1: am young at heart.
Speaker 2: I used to work with the gard when I was
Speaker 2: on the tools and I was twenty four and he
Speaker 2: was thirty. Yeah, and I used to or six years difference,
Speaker 2: so I was twenty two. He was my age twenty
Speaker 2: eight and I should be like, you are fucking old.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, I'll never get that old,
Speaker 2: and here I am, but yet you do get you
Speaker 2: do it. And here I am fucking old and I'm
Speaker 2: feeling it.
Speaker 3: But do you know what, we're actually as young as
Speaker 3: will ever be. And that's every time I think of myself.
Speaker 3: Like I said to Michael the other day, I was like,
Speaker 3: do you know we're middle aged? Like we're middle aged
Speaker 3: aged couple. But then I was like, no, but I'm
Speaker 3: as young as I'll ever be, So I think in
Speaker 3: my mind, I'll always think of myself as young, because
Speaker 3: in this very moment that we're in right now, we're
Speaker 3: all as young as we're ever going to be, and
Speaker 3: it's only getting worse.
Speaker 2: I thought, I still think I'm young. I mean, before
Speaker 2: the game, people were doing stretches and warming up, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I've never stretched in my life. A minute,
Speaker 2: they're like stretching, so they're all stretching and I've pulled
Speaker 2: up so sore, and I like, I said, it's surprising
Speaker 2: that I pulled up saw from a game which is
Speaker 2: no tackling.
Speaker 3: Matt's like not stretching and he's seeming to be stretched off.
Speaker 2: Lily right, that was a good one. That's literally what happened.
Speaker 2: But don't get me wrong, the game was fun. I
Speaker 2: had an amazing time. Tammy came to watch me. I
Speaker 2: appreciate it so much.
Speaker 3: Okay, do you know what's really cute is that she
Speaker 3: wore the Zukowski top.
Speaker 1: That's such a vibe. Yeah, I was like, that's very cute.
Speaker 1: On like, for both of.
Speaker 2: You wearing that, that was very It turned me on
Speaker 2: a bit I love that.
Speaker 3: Like, if Michael had a Staples top, I would love
Speaker 3: to wear a Staples top.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't, he doesn't have ones.
Speaker 2: That was an absolute vibe her wearing that. I found
Speaker 2: that very hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is hot. That's very cute.
Speaker 3: My ech of the week is that, I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: going to give you guys, guys a little bit of honesty.
Speaker 3: At the moment, I've had some issues with one of
Speaker 3: my friends. We've been disagreeing on some things, and it's
Speaker 3: just been really hard.
Speaker 1: And I think, like you.
Speaker 3: Know, as you said, we are older. It's something that
Speaker 3: doesn't happen often, so it's really taken a mental toll
Speaker 3: on me. I've been really upset about it four months actually,
Speaker 3: and yeah, it's just really hard. And I know that
Speaker 3: a lot of people on our Facebook page have asked
Speaker 3: us to talk about going through a friendship breakup and like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know where things stand with us at the moment,
Speaker 3: but yeah.
Speaker 1: It's been really challenging. So that's my ech of the week.
Speaker 2: Just you know, it's pretty rough what you're going through.
Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine going through it. Yeah, I just think that,
Speaker 2: like it's yeah, I've seen how rough it's been for
Speaker 2: you and how much of a toll it's taken on you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like Michael has said to me that the most
Speaker 3: stressed out he's seen me throughout our whole relationship is
Speaker 3: to do with that situation constantly, Like it's like a
Speaker 3: reoccurring thing. So not me when I'm being difficult, I
Speaker 3: mean you and You're being difficult is difficult. But I
Speaker 3: do feel like it doesn't last that long when we
Speaker 3: have disagreements, Like we are quick to resolve things, and
Speaker 3: I think that's due to the fact that, like we
Speaker 3: both don't like things to drag on. Like I know
Speaker 3: that when we fight, I get anxiety and I know
Speaker 3: that you also get anxiety, and we both have anxiety,
Speaker 3: so we repair quickly, whereas this is like an ongoing issue,
Speaker 3: and so I think, yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: It's probably the most. Yeah, it's stressful and difficult.
Speaker 2: It's been challenging, and it's definitely being dragged out like
Speaker 2: you said.
Speaker 3: For years, I mean essentially it's come to a peak, yeah,
Speaker 3: over the last four months. Yeah, So anyway, I'm not
Speaker 3: going to go into detail out of respect, but you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's definitely something that I that's been kind of
Speaker 3: weighing me down recently, and yeah, I just somehow pray
Speaker 3: that it can get resolved. I don't know how, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just hard. It's hard anyway. I'm feeling a little
Speaker 3: bit deflated now, so I'm gonna go over to you
Speaker 3: to light the mood.
Speaker 1: What's your turn on of the week?
Speaker 2: My turn on for the week is, actually you guys
Speaker 2: might be thinking it's just so obvious. Baths.
Speaker 1: Baths.
Speaker 2: Yeah, baths.
Speaker 1: Oh, having a bar. Oh I love a ba.
Speaker 2: So I was never really big on baths. I'm six
Speaker 2: foot five, six foot six.
Speaker 1: Trying to find a bath that you get along with?
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, But Tammy and myself, I mean, we stayed
Speaker 2: in a lot of hotels for a bit over the
Speaker 2: start of our relationship, and we would always well not always,
Speaker 2: but we've had a bath in one of them, and
Speaker 2: I started running the bath and I was like, let's
Speaker 2: have a bath tonight. She was a bit like, I'm
Speaker 2: a ring. End up hopping in the bath. Had the
Speaker 2: best time ever when going to details so good. And
Speaker 2: now I'm just completely on bath. So whenever we'd get
Speaker 2: a hotel, we'd always ask for a bath so we
Speaker 2: could have a bath together.
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of Tammy, I actually saw on a post
Speaker 3: the other day that you guys are now saying the
Speaker 3: album and I just kind of want to take it
Speaker 3: back a little bit because I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I'm and I know.
Speaker 3: That you guys are deeply in love with each other,
Speaker 3: but I kind of want to know the first time
Speaker 3: you said I love you to each other.
Speaker 2: So the first time I said I love you too
Speaker 2: Tammy was actually she was in Melbourne. We're actually about
Speaker 2: to meet my family, so we're about to meet my mum,
Speaker 2: my two sisters, and she was getting a little bit
Speaker 2: nervous to meet them, as you do, like I was
Speaker 2: nervous to meet her family. And We're sitting on the
Speaker 2: couch in the hotel room and I just said, hey,
Speaker 2: look like I love you. It's going to be fine,
Speaker 2: and I want you to meet my family. And then
Speaker 2: she said it back, she said I love you too.
Speaker 2: It was a very cute moment.
Speaker 1: That's really sweet. So you were like reassuring, reassuring.
Speaker 2: I said, I love you, and I couldn't. I can't
Speaker 2: wait for you to meet them, and they're going to
Speaker 2: love you as well as much as I do.
Speaker 1: When did you realize that you love her.
Speaker 2: I never really believed in love at first sight. Like
Speaker 2: I always thought, yeah, that's that's not real, Like you know,
Speaker 2: that doesn't happen. But I'm not going to lie. The
Speaker 2: first time I met Tammy, when she walked up to me,
Speaker 2: I got like I'm not gonna lie. I got very
Speaker 2: like butterflies in my stomach and got like real nervous.
Speaker 3: And really, you don't get nervous, I don't do. You
Speaker 3: don't get nervous like we sometimes like we have like
Speaker 3: these big interviews and we do all of this crazy
Speaker 3: stuff and like there could be like thousands of people
Speaker 3: and you just.
Speaker 2: Don't get nervous. Yeah, I got big butterflies. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's like she was just walking up
Speaker 2: and then like we were in the elevator together going
Speaker 2: up to the hotel room, and I just remember like
Speaker 2: she was just standing there. She kept staring at me,
Speaker 2: and I kept looking at her, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say love, but looking back, it was a
Speaker 2: very strong feeling of like lust and emotion towards someone.
Speaker 2: And I just knew I'd already had, like we'd already
Speaker 2: spoken for a couple of weeks before that, so I
Speaker 2: knew that there was like, you know, I knew there
Speaker 2: was that connection there already, and that chemistry chemistry, And
Speaker 2: what I kept saying was she like understood me and
Speaker 2: still does like gets me and gets like my personality
Speaker 2: and all that. So like I knew it was good.
Speaker 3: I remember you said to me, I don't know if
Speaker 3: I'm ever gonna date anyone who gets me because I'm
Speaker 3: hard work. And then you met Tabby and you were like,
Speaker 3: she gets me, and you were like, shocks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's so easy. And it's more that
Speaker 2: like even when she doesn't get stuff or I don't
Speaker 2: get stuff about her, it's just so healthy and respectful
Speaker 2: in the way we try and understand each other and
Speaker 2: navigate the situation. Yeah, Like there's no toxic like stuff,
Speaker 2: Like I'll literally give her like tips for the next
Speaker 2: time and she takes them on board and vice versa,
Speaker 2: how to handle situations and how to like you know,
Speaker 2: get the best from each other.
Speaker 3: That's what you want though, right, Like you want to
Speaker 3: be able to take on a little bit of feedback
Speaker 3: or to be able to take it without feeling attacked,
Speaker 3: Like Michael gives me feedback and I'm like, Okay, I'll
Speaker 3: do it. I'll do that next time, And it's so healthy.
Speaker 2: Do you believe like I think that like people say
Speaker 2: it should be it's easy, I don't think it's ever
Speaker 2: going to be easy. Two people are different. I've always
Speaker 2: said that two people are different. Like for it to
Speaker 2: be easy, I feel like somebody has to be very
Speaker 2: submissive or very just fucking chilled. Well, yeah, two people
Speaker 2: have to be very chilled. Tammy and I aren't two
Speaker 2: very chilled people, but we're two people that respect each other. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to get the best from the relationship.
Speaker 1: It's all about respect.
Speaker 3: Like I've had times when I've been in relationships, and
Speaker 3: I can openly admit with ex boyfriends, I just didn't
Speaker 3: respect them. So I was willing to, you know, say
Speaker 3: things that probably were hurtful, and I wasn't like coming
Speaker 3: at them with the most tact in respect. I wasn't
Speaker 3: trying to get the best out of the situation because
Speaker 3: I didn't care as much. Whereas like I would never
Speaker 3: say anything to Michael. I mean even if I did,
Speaker 3: I would immediately like want to apologize and men things.
Speaker 3: But like I will always come at Michael with respect
Speaker 3: and with kindness, and like even if I get like
Speaker 3: snappy or something, we're cuddling and loving on each other
Speaker 3: the next minute. So it's like, you know that two
Speaker 3: way street of just like I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think we've I've said to her that, like,
Speaker 2: just let's just keep respecting each other and this will
Speaker 2: be cruisy. I reckon love his patient, love his kind
Speaker 2: and love is about respect and that's what we have,
Speaker 2: those three things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cute. Okay, well my turn on of the week.
Speaker 1: Yes is the fact. And this happened a few weeks ago.
Speaker 3: But Coldplayer coming to Melbourne, and you know how big
Speaker 3: of a fan I am of Chris Mantin. He is
Speaker 3: my celebrity hall pass crush, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2: And I photo of him and I didn't get it.
Speaker 2: I don't get it.
Speaker 3: I think it's just like the British and he's like,
Speaker 3: you know, like an older attractive guy.
Speaker 2: I don't mind the songs. He's like, I really like
Speaker 2: cold Play. I'm probably gonna listen to him on the
Speaker 2: way home now after this.
Speaker 3: Maybe we should get tickets, yeah, to the concert. Maybe
Speaker 3: we should do a Double Day that could be cute.
Speaker 3: I just think like his music is incredible, He's amazing,
Speaker 3: and like, I.
Speaker 1: Am dying to go.
Speaker 3: So they initially when they came to Australia, they only
Speaker 3: went to Perth, but now there's it's available from Melbourne,
Speaker 3: so I'm like excited.
Speaker 2: We don't do what you did with this Taylor Swift
Speaker 2: and not clue me in. And now I'm not going
Speaker 2: to fucking Taylor Swift. If I'm spewing about Travis might
Speaker 2: be there fucking fanboy over him.
Speaker 3: I've never heard you talk about Travis before in my life,
Speaker 3: and now you fucking love.
Speaker 2: Him because you don't listen to me When I do
Speaker 2: talk to you about NFL. It's in one ear out
Speaker 2: the other. You wouldn't even know if I was.
Speaker 1: This is true, but I've never heard you talking about
Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey. Is that his last name, Travis Kelsey?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, on celebrity crushes, let's get into that. So and
Speaker 2: I saw this TikTok the other day, you know, me
Speaker 2: laying TikTok scrolling, it's all I do. And it was
Speaker 2: about people who have celebrity crushes or huge fans of
Speaker 2: celebrities are actually a happier people.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 3: Maybe because they're putting them on a pedestal and they're
Speaker 3: getting a lot of joy and happiness from them. I mean,
Speaker 3: I have a friend Maddie who is obsessed with Shawn Mendees,
Speaker 3: like to an unhealthy level, and she would she would
Speaker 3: even admit.
Speaker 1: That, like she is obsessed.
Speaker 3: I think when her Spotify rap for the Year came in,
Speaker 3: she was like the top one percent of people who
Speaker 3: listened to Shawn Mendes. Yeah, she was like proud of it.
Speaker 3: She was like, fuck yeah, like I've you know, I'm like.
Speaker 1: One of the number one fans.
Speaker 2: What's one of these songs?
Speaker 3: I can't write one song that's sort of value, you know.
Speaker 1: That song not resonating with you?
Speaker 3: Well, Matt, you actually sent me this video and doctor
Speaker 3: Nikola Thomas says that it actually acts as a reprieve
Speaker 3: from life stresses. So if you've got like a really
Speaker 3: stressful life, then you can turn to your celebrity crush
Speaker 3: or your idol maybe listen to their music and it
Speaker 3: kind of like takes.
Speaker 1: The weight off. Is that surprising to you? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can see how it works.
Speaker 2: What do you mean, like you're dissociating from what you're
Speaker 2: doing sort of thing, and you're.
Speaker 3: Like, well, maybe you're like living in the reality of
Speaker 3: the celebrity as opposed to your real life, which could
Speaker 3: be like difficult or.
Speaker 2: Stressful or yeah, I'm but wouldn't that be the same
Speaker 2: as like, you know, like I used to do that
Speaker 2: with wrestling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like getting involved in a hobby. Absolutely, it's like
Speaker 3: a distraction.
Speaker 2: Or watching it. So that would be like my outlet.
Speaker 2: So I'd be obsessed with wrestling and wrestlers and wrestlers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's definitely exactly like that, exactly like.
Speaker 2: That, and that would dissociate me from my reality and
Speaker 2: I'd be focused on that.
Speaker 3: My celebrity crush used to be Heath Ledger. I was
Speaker 3: like a die hard Heath Ledger fan, and when he died,
Speaker 3: I was super upset. But I used to love watching
Speaker 3: Ten Things I Hate About You. Have watched it hundreds
Speaker 3: of times, I reckon, and it's always like so stress
Speaker 3: free and light and fun and like, you know, I
Speaker 3: just love that movie.
Speaker 2: I watched that movie and the girl was like, it's
Speaker 2: such a red flag because I'm laughing at all the
Speaker 2: jokes by that the bad guy in there, the villain.
Speaker 1: No, what was that that?
Speaker 2: Because you know, I like, I loved the guy who's
Speaker 2: like that must be No with the bree or she
Speaker 2: had like his face face things and they're like, that's
Speaker 2: such a red flag that you find him funny and
Speaker 2: none of the rest of it funny.
Speaker 3: I like that movie Ten Things I Hate About You
Speaker 3: is a classic and there are some classic lines like
Speaker 3: that's Niger with the bree is a classic line. I
Speaker 3: hate about you.
Speaker 1: It's good, It's really good. Okay, say one last time
Speaker 1: for everyone, Well.
Speaker 2: That must be Niger with the bree. Anna.
Speaker 1: You think you know me, I do know you quite well.
Speaker 2: Well, we're going to put that to the test. Our
Speaker 2: producer Amber has written a bunch of questions that we're
Speaker 2: going to ask each other. We've got a pen and paper.
Speaker 2: We're going to write him down so there's no cheating,
Speaker 2: and we're going to see if we get the right
Speaker 2: answers about each other.
Speaker 3: You guys can play along as well and see if
Speaker 3: you guys know as well. I feel like I know
Speaker 3: you well, but I feel like random questions like you know,
Speaker 3: what's your favorite color? I might not know the answer to.
Speaker 3: I mean mine's is an obvious one. So will at
Speaker 3: me like you're disappointed already.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling the pressure.
Speaker 2: Speed Rice.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we both have a piece of pen and paper.
Speaker 3: Let's just do me and then you. So okay, So Matt,
Speaker 3: the first question is what is my favorite color? Write
Speaker 3: it down and see if they both match.
Speaker 1: Three.
Speaker 2: Now, my writing looks like a.
Speaker 3: That's okay, six year old that is so insecure about
Speaker 3: his handwriting.
Speaker 1: I think your handwriting is not.
Speaker 2: Me uploaded a note I wrote the other day and
Speaker 2: there was a bunch of people saying it looked like
Speaker 2: Posey wrote it.
Speaker 1: You have my handwriting?
Speaker 2: All right? So your favorite color is pink?
Speaker 3: Yes, that's so easy though, Okay my favorite color?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm trying to cheat.
Speaker 3: I feel like, oh my god, I'm gonna get this wrong.
Speaker 1: Okay ready three? Two, red, black, and gold. You have
Speaker 1: to be serious.
Speaker 2: That is my favorite color. Had people tell me I'm
Speaker 2: immature for that, but it's Essendon winning the Grand Final.
Speaker 2: I've had it since I was like five years old.
Speaker 1: Are you serious? Right now?
Speaker 3: You can't have three favorite color? What is your favorite color?
Speaker 3: I you had to pick one blue, black, gold, black
Speaker 3: or gold. I knew you're gonna say black, as I said,
Speaker 3: black doesn't count. I get half a point for that, okay. Okay,
Speaker 3: so it's one and one point to you and half
Speaker 3: a point to me. Okay, if you were stuck on
Speaker 3: a desert island, what is your number one item that
Speaker 3: you would bring?
Speaker 2: This is yours. Don't look, I'm not looking. I've very
Speaker 2: written it.
Speaker 3: Three two one, So that's the point.
Speaker 2: So that's the point to me. Okay, what would I bring?
Speaker 1: I don't know what you'd bring? What would you bring?
Speaker 2: I've written two things.
Speaker 1: You can't keep writing too.
Speaker 2: So you have a double the chance of getting a point. Okay, fine, three?
Speaker 3: So what would you bring to a desert island? Three
Speaker 3: two one? Tammy? You don't switch out tabby for a boat.
Speaker 2: I said, or a boat? Yeah, so I can get
Speaker 2: off there, So you got so I.
Speaker 3: Got that right, Poor Michael, if you didn't even can
Speaker 3: I mention?
Speaker 1: I don't even think of Michael.
Speaker 3: I'm like, as long as I'm looking glowing, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if someone will come rescuing. Okay, so
Speaker 2: we're going to do Anna. What is your favorite sex position?
Speaker 1: Okay? So ah, it sounds so boring.
Speaker 2: One doggie.
Speaker 1: Like hot missionary?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, sounds boring to say that your favorite sex
Speaker 1: position is missionary.
Speaker 2: Wine's missionary.
Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say doggie for you, so
Speaker 3: that means we were going to mine is missionary. So
Speaker 3: we both thought each other's was doggy, but it's.
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, doggie is fun.
Speaker 3: Last one, what is our attachment styles? So let's start
Speaker 3: with me. Three two, one anxious.
Speaker 2: And now my attachment style.
Speaker 1: Okay, one anxious.
Speaker 3: I knew you were going to think you were secure.
Speaker 1: You're so not secure.
Speaker 2: I am secure my attachment style.
Speaker 1: Okay, that was a little bit of fun.
Speaker 3: Guys, we hope you like that.
Speaker 2: I hope you let us know if you've got if
Speaker 2: you guessed any of ours the same, all right, Anna.
Speaker 2: A big trend on TikTok at the moment is cheating
Speaker 2: or not cheating.
Speaker 3: I know it's interesting, right because everyone has different boundaries,
Speaker 3: but I do think that there are some that are
Speaker 3: just obvious.
Speaker 2: I agree. I think I think that if you do have
Speaker 2: something that is something that you feel is cheating to
Speaker 2: you set that boundary early so your partner doesn't cross it.
Speaker 3: Okay, We're going to go through some of the main
Speaker 3: ones that we've found that have caused some disagreement. The
Speaker 3: first one is is it cheating to keep your dating
Speaker 3: app and swipe through them when you're bored, but not
Speaker 3: message anyone cheating?
Speaker 1: Cheating?
Speaker 2: It's cheating. How about my dumb mask when I deleted
Speaker 2: my dating app, but I signed up to the premium,
Speaker 2: which I don't know why. I don't fucking use dating apps.
Speaker 2: I just wanted all the benefits and I deleted the app.
Speaker 2: I didn't cancel my account, so I kept charging me
Speaker 2: every month. That's tough, and I didn't know what it
Speaker 2: was coming into my bank account for months, and I
Speaker 2: was like, what is this?
Speaker 1: That's so bad?
Speaker 2: And then I went to subscriptions on your phone. So
Speaker 2: anyone go to subscriptions on your phone because you might
Speaker 2: have paid for an app or done a free trial
Speaker 2: and just keeps charging you.
Speaker 1: That's a good little tip there. I did that the
Speaker 1: other day.
Speaker 3: I was actually I had class Pass and because I
Speaker 3: I was sick in hospital, I tried to cancel it.
Speaker 3: And I literally tried to cancel this app three times
Speaker 3: and they would not let me cancel it. It was
Speaker 3: so annoying. There's like every time you cancel it, they're like,
Speaker 3: but we'll give you ten percent off if you don't cancel.
Speaker 3: And then I was like, no, I still want to
Speaker 3: cancel it, and they're like fifteen percent and I was like,
Speaker 3: let me cancel fifty.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So you just go to type and subscriptions into
Speaker 2: settings and then you go down and I just canceled
Speaker 2: them all I was paying for random stuff apps I
Speaker 2: didn't even know I had on my phone anymore.
Speaker 1: Wild.
Speaker 3: Okay, is it casually flirting with the cute barrista cheating map?
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm gonna say yes.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not cheating, but like.
Speaker 3: Oh, but that's the thing, that's that's where the discrepancy lies.
Speaker 1: It either is or it is.
Speaker 2: We shouldn't be talking to any one of the other sex,
Speaker 2: I say.
Speaker 1: I would say, you can talk to people of the
Speaker 1: opposite sex, but you can't flirt with flirting with the
Speaker 1: barista cheating?
Speaker 2: Yes. The next one is is it cheating if you
Speaker 2: share a bed with someone else and you don't do
Speaker 2: anything sexual?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's just a flat Yes. Why would you
Speaker 3: share a bed with someone who's not your partner?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hundred percent it's just it's unusual.
Speaker 2: That's cheating.
Speaker 1: Is hanging out with your ex without telling your partner cheating? Yes,
Speaker 1: I think yes, that's cheating.
Speaker 3: I think if you if you somehow like need to
Speaker 3: or want to, at a bare minimum, the partner needs
Speaker 3: to know.
Speaker 2: You need to know. Yeah, And if you're not telling him,
Speaker 2: you're obviously hiding something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or you just can't be bothered with the argument.
Speaker 1: But either way they need to know.
Speaker 2: They need to know.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe just don't hang out with.
Speaker 2: Your Yeah, probably probably the easiest to say. Or if
Speaker 2: you bump into them or something like you just tell
Speaker 2: your partner, you have to tell yeah, hey, I bumped
Speaker 2: into an a set of load.
Speaker 3: Honesty is the best policy. Like there's literally nothing that
Speaker 3: happens in my life. There's no guy that texts me
Speaker 3: where I don't tell Michael one d the same. Like literally,
Speaker 3: even if it's like an X from like six years
Speaker 3: ago or something, I'll just Okay, by the way this
Speaker 3: person message.
Speaker 2: Me, I think that's that I.
Speaker 1: Did reply, I didn't reply. Whatever it is.
Speaker 2: I think that's the best, and it just the rest
Speaker 2: of the relationship, Like, you know, keep that standard because
Speaker 2: as soon as you start hiding things, are keeping things
Speaker 2: from your partner. It's downhill from there.
Speaker 1: And it's also like on your conscience.
Speaker 3: I think, like we don't realize the impact that things
Speaker 3: have on us, and it like really weighs you down
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 1: Like to just be in a.
Speaker 3: Relationship where there's a clear, clean conscience, it's really like
Speaker 3: it's nice. You don't want to like have things where
Speaker 3: you're like, oh my god, if they find out about this,
Speaker 3: they could break up with me. And then because then
Speaker 3: you feel unsettled in.
Speaker 1: Your own life.
Speaker 2: Then you get anxious.
Speaker 1: Anxiety the killer of happiness.
Speaker 2: And a big one is watching porn cheating. No, No,
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think absolutely not.
Speaker 3: I think it's healthy, like everything in moderation, right, Like
Speaker 3: if you're watching porn and like obsessed with porn and
Speaker 3: addict you to it, that's a different story. Or if
Speaker 3: you're like not having actual real life sex because you're
Speaker 3: too busy watching porn, that could be a problem.
Speaker 1: That's I understand.
Speaker 3: Like there are people who I know who are like
Speaker 3: very against porn. Yeah, And like we've spoken to a
Speaker 3: couple who were big on like porn being a boundary
Speaker 3: in their relationship before on the podcast, remember Sam and Hayley.
Speaker 3: But for me personally, I don't see it as like
Speaker 3: like it's just looking.
Speaker 1: There's a screen there.
Speaker 3: I get that what they were saying was like porn
Speaker 3: is like an exchange of energy, but for me, it's
Speaker 3: more just like a switch off, like you can just
Speaker 3: switch off without having to like imagine up a horny s.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think it's cheating. I think that it's
Speaker 2: fair play on Like I wouldn't get upset if my
Speaker 2: girlfriend was.
Speaker 1: Watching porn, no hot, let me know about it, just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get me involved. I'll watch it with you. Is
Speaker 2: it cheating to tell someone that you would totally hook
Speaker 2: up with them if you were single?
Speaker 3: Oh yes absolutely. You can't put like DIBs on people.
Speaker 3: And if you're single, then you're like planning on not
Speaker 3: being in a relationship, so probably just don't be in
Speaker 3: a relation.
Speaker 2: Dialogue. I don't like that. I don't like dialogue like
Speaker 2: if we would break up or like if I were single.
Speaker 2: I hate that.
Speaker 3: Because then it's also like if you did become single,
Speaker 3: then that person's like, oh now now my chance has
Speaker 3: come up, Like they're like waiting for you to almost
Speaker 3: break up like nap.
Speaker 2: Right, Let's let's take a back a step telling when
Speaker 2: you're in a relationship with someone and telling them that
Speaker 2: you think someone's attractive.
Speaker 1: I just don't really see the need.
Speaker 3: Yeah, same, Like I think that you can visually look
Speaker 3: at someone and be like, you're attractive?
Speaker 1: Why it?
Speaker 3: Like, what is what is it within you that makes
Speaker 3: you need to tell your partner that because it could
Speaker 3: potentially make them feel insecure. And then on top of that, like,
Speaker 3: if you're going to say that someone else is attractive,
Speaker 3: you need to be okay with them saying it back
Speaker 3: to you, big one.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where, you know.
Speaker 3: Like I could say to Michael, like, I don't think
Speaker 3: I would say to Michael, like that guy's really attractive.
Speaker 2: I don't say that single or not.
Speaker 3: I don't know how I was single, I might say it, yeah,
Speaker 3: I would say to my to my friends like that
Speaker 3: guy's hot. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: But like if I'm in a relationship, If I am
Speaker 3: in a relationship, I wouldn't say he's hot.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't just me. I never have
Speaker 2: never will.
Speaker 3: I would always say to Michael, he's like the only
Speaker 3: guy I find attractive anyway, like, no one, no one
Speaker 3: turns my head.
Speaker 1: There's no guy that could walk past me.
Speaker 2: If I put a bomb into the villa with your
Speaker 2: head turn. What's that there was a bomb in the villa?
Speaker 2: Your head turn?
Speaker 1: Nah? Like, once I'm in, I'm in.
Speaker 3: I'm very loyal, Like I'm like blinkers on like you are,
Speaker 3: where my attention is focused out, like even like in
Speaker 3: a jonnice looking like long haired, like sexy like everything.
Speaker 1: That's my type of guy.
Speaker 3: If he walked past me, I would just be like, cool,
Speaker 3: I've already got what I'm looking for, Like I'm content,
Speaker 3: my needs it met, I'm happy.
Speaker 2: That's cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think you're the same.
Speaker 2: I'm the same undred percent look at other people like this,
Speaker 2: would I look at anyone else?
Speaker 3: Well, exactly, Like You're like I've got the hottest girl
Speaker 3: on the planet, and I'm like I've got the hottest
Speaker 3: guy ever.
Speaker 2: So no point looking anywhere.
Speaker 1: We're all good over here.
Speaker 2: Okay. So I've got some red flag green flags for
Speaker 2: you today, Anna, which actually this first one is hilarious
Speaker 2: because it ties in so well. When they have the
Speaker 2: handwriting that's similar to a child. I literally just prefaced
Speaker 2: before I wrote Tammy a letter when I was leaving
Speaker 2: early in the morning, and she put it on her
Speaker 2: story and there was a lot of replies, apparently saying
Speaker 2: it looks like one of her child's one of the
Speaker 2: sorry one of her children wrote it, Well, I think.
Speaker 3: That's a green flag because I think it's endearing. And
Speaker 3: I think if you have a guy who's going out
Speaker 3: of their way to write you a letter, taking pen
Speaker 3: to paper, that is one hundred percent of green flag.
Speaker 3: So it doesn't really matter, like I don't need like,
Speaker 3: you know, letters joined type of like hands written letter.
Speaker 3: I think the meaning is the thought behind it.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure my dad, when I gave him his
Speaker 2: card a couple of months ago for his birthday or
Speaker 2: Father's Day whatever, said you need to work on your handwriting,
Speaker 2: Like what about card mate?
Speaker 1: Like what about all my nice words in the heart? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think I think write a letter is from the heart,
Speaker 3: So I think it's a green flag.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: Okay, what about when a boy lights candles when you
Speaker 3: come over.
Speaker 2: I just relate that to such a fuck boy move.
Speaker 1: I think it's a green flag.
Speaker 2: It's a green flag.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sopt the mood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to do that back in the heyday
Speaker 2: when I was like eighteen ninety.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, but you know what.
Speaker 2: Like salts a caramel glass house.
Speaker 3: There's a thing about like it's really setting a mood
Speaker 3: and ambiance, like can really like make the sex amazing.
Speaker 1: So I think I agree.
Speaker 2: I would imagine like walking in and they've like a
Speaker 2: bunch of candles that would be sucking.
Speaker 1: Hot, like there's a warm bath run.
Speaker 2: Or hot rose petals.
Speaker 3: Music, like really nice romantic hot music playing in the background.
Speaker 2: Nice, like that's hot.
Speaker 3: Even just like saying it, like I'm like, oh, maybe
Speaker 3: I'll do that for Michael.
Speaker 1: Maybe Michael's getting lucky. No, but it's nice.
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of the time when we
Speaker 3: have sex, like everyone has lives us such a busy life, right,
Speaker 3: and we don't have time to really like plan and
Speaker 3: it's kind of like quick hot sex and it's like
Speaker 3: in the moment and in the moment sex is so good,
Speaker 3: but something sometimes there's nothing better than a little pre
Speaker 3: planning of setting the tone.
Speaker 2: I do like romantic sex, but don't get me wrong,
Speaker 2: I love just quicky hot eyes. Okay, when they text
Speaker 2: and drive with you in.
Speaker 1: The car red flag, Well, who.
Speaker 2: Else do you need to be fucking texting I'm sitting
Speaker 2: right here.
Speaker 1: But also the main point, don't text and drive.
Speaker 3: It's dangerous, like so many there's so many everything's happening
Speaker 3: on our roads. I know it's not smoking about enough
Speaker 3: and so many dangerous situations and if you're not paying
Speaker 3: full attention, like yeah, just don't do it.
Speaker 1: Put your phone away.
Speaker 2: I agree, don't need to text and drive. Are you
Speaker 2: a passenger princess? Anna?
Speaker 1: You know what? I do?
Speaker 3: Love being a passenger princess. It's nice having someone drive
Speaker 3: you around.
Speaker 1: It's hot.
Speaker 2: I do love driving as well. Yeah, being me and
Speaker 2: driving the car.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hammy a passenger princess.
Speaker 2: Passenger princess.
Speaker 1: Okay, guys, that's all we have time for.
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