1 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to L three sixty Rugby League from every angle 2 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: joining me in the great good and talent. Let's bring 3 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: the Jono Australian Joanes super Michael will carry artists and 4 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: we have Nathan Cleary's standing by. 5 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: We're just about to interview him. 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: But the Tales of Tigertown, they continue to drag on 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: what's going on? 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 3: Lock going on at West Tiger's. At the moment breath 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: we know Talon de Silver has left this week Shane Richardson, 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 3: the West Tiger CEO. It feels as though he's really 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 3: put the ball back in Benji Marshall's quarter as a 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: head coach. Benji needs to try and make this work 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 3: because if he doesn't, rich has given him the course 14 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: to the Ferrari and told him you make it fly. 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: And if it doesn't, well then we all know how 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: this could possibly end. 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a really interesting situation. 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 5: Obviously, before drinth, who would have thought we got to 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 5: this day before June thirty that Lock of Galvin and 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 5: Tullon the Silver would be out the door. Obviously Lock 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 5: of Galvin situation was completely different to the Talent of 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 5: Silver one. But if one was very surprised that they 23 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 5: allowed him out of the club before June thirty. 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 4: Tell them what do you reckon? 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: Gordy. We spoke about it last night, but there's been 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: a few stories. 27 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: Today that have come out that have gone a little 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: bit deeper into the camp at the time. 29 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, look the Galvin story where that was a bit cloudy. 30 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 6: But with with talent, the silver a loan system, Appy 31 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 6: corrousl the age that what he's at. I thought it 32 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 6: was strange for the future of the organization. But if 33 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 6: Benji thinks that it's best for the roster now and 34 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 6: he's coaching in the next couple of years, well do 35 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 6: you go with the coach or do you go with 36 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 6: the future. I would probably tended to go with the 37 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 6: future if I was the CEO, but they chose to 38 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 6: go with the coach, and. 39 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 7: That's what's coming to lot today. Gordy eraise. 40 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: A great point is that when rich At first got 41 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: his feet under the desk at the West Tigers, one 42 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: of his big announcements that he put out of the 43 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: members of the club was where a development club, we 44 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: need to invest in our local juniors. We're not going 45 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: to be you know, we've made mistakes previously under previous 46 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 3: administrations going out and wasting good money after bad on 47 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: trying to bring players into the place. We need to 48 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: invest in the future, and that's where the decision around 49 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: Lockie Galvin looked. That was the shambles and it's completely 50 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: different circumstances to talent. But in Talent's case, he wanted 51 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 3: to remain at the club. But I think to back 52 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 3: Benji Marshall, Richo has had to support him and allow 53 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: him to make the happy decision. There's a number of 54 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: facets to that. A big part of it is also 55 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: Jerome Lewi's role at the club now, he's got two 56 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: get out clauses. He and Happy are the leaders of 57 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 3: that club. So Benji needs to keep those senior figures 58 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: happy to ensure his own job security, to try and 59 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: win games, to ensure his long term coaching tenure. 60 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: We're going to have Richie on the show next week, 61 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: so we're going to have a chat to him on 62 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: heavy hitters and see whether at the club. We'll pack 63 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: this a little bit more later on there we've got 64 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: anything clearly about the join us, but let's talk a 65 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: little bit at the Blues now. He five players didn't 66 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: train with the group today or the team. Have you 67 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: got an information on this? 68 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, so obviously Jerome Louis Nathan clear. We're among those 69 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 5: paining Hess Huts and young Brian Toll or were either 70 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 5: limited or didn't train. 71 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 4: Look, it's still a week out from. 72 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 5: The game, so it's obviously not panic station is the 73 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 5: one the most concerned about is Brian Toll. But that's 74 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 5: why they got Jacob kraz In and around the squad. 75 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 5: So no real issues for for the Blues except for 76 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 5: Brian Toll heading into games three. 77 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 8: Sounds you blokes are doing the Queensland. 78 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: Down there. You guys play it up, do we or you. 79 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 8: Guys play it one of the two? 80 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: Loving this that we're in. 81 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 6: I'll tell you what after Game one watching Crichton, limp 82 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 6: Off and pain Ass not training, I don't have any 83 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 6: worries for you. 84 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 8: I don't have one concern. 85 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: I think they've called five extra players in just the. 86 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 8: You got five to call it. 87 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: I had some concerns when I heard that there were 88 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: five players that didn't participate the fact that the halves 89 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: are training separately to the rest of the entire squad. 90 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: I know it's only early days in the camp, but 91 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: Laurie Daily spoke on this program earlier in the week 92 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: and we've read at length quite attributed to him, where 93 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: he says, you've got to know all the preparation. 94 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: To me, I. 95 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 6: Worrying signs, but I reckon these guys with Nathan like 96 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 6: that have the game plan down. Pat You would think 97 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 6: they've played a lot of footy together. But if they're 98 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 6: training them by sad day and they can switch in 99 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 6: the gear, I don't think it'll. 100 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 4: Be a problem to you guys. 101 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 5: It's not uncommon for this stage of the year for 102 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 5: multiple players not to train early part of the week. 103 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: It isn't no this time of the year. They're backing 104 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: up playing two games now again. We'll last Nathan, clearly 105 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: it is. But is this his final frontier? You know 106 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people he has been successful in Origin 107 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: and we spoke about that with Bulldog, Richie and Cruels 108 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: on last night, but he hasn't won a decider, he 109 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: hasn't been in a winning decider, and he's done everything 110 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: else in the game. He's going to be a great 111 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: at our game, but this would mean a lot to him. 112 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: Winn't to win this one on Wednesday? 113 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: Well, Nathan's the best half back in the game, no question. 114 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: To win four Premierships the way that he has. He's 115 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 3: won World Cups for Australia, he's won three State of 116 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 3: Origin series, he's won a Brad Fittler Medal. But the 117 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 3: true champions of New South Wales, Andrew Johnson, Ricky Stewart, 118 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 3: they did win series, they did win series deciding games. 119 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 3: So this probably is the final final box. 120 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 2: You'll do it. 121 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: I believe I do as well. I think I think 122 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: this will be his best Origin ever. And as I said, 123 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: he's had a lot of success and he's doing a 124 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: great job. Actually, let's get to it. Let's cross line 125 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: with a great man. 126 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 8: He is in Blues camp with New South Wales. 127 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: Nathan Cleary joins us now on the jo true Blue 128 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: Mike and Nathan, you've had a great career, you've achieved 129 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: it or we just spoke about it. What would it 130 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: mean to you to win an Origin decider for New 131 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: South Wales on Wednesday night? 132 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, honestly, it made the world to me. It feels 133 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 9: like I've been saying I've been longing for for a while. 134 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 9: I've been lucky enough to win series but haven't quite yet. 135 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 9: Jumped the hurdle of Winter Decider, so I love the 136 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 9: opportunity to do it, love the challenge, and yeah, real 137 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 9: looking forward to next Wednesday night. 138 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: How's the growing Obviously struggled there in game two with it, 139 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: you still played very well and you played great against 140 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: the Bulldogs, But how is it and are you kicking game? 141 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: Where are you at with that? Yeah? 142 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 9: It's feeling good, honestly, feeling better every day. So I'm 143 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 9: really happy with where it's at now. It's obviously just 144 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 9: building the King game into it, very confident with the 145 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 9: general play. Kick in the goal kicking sort of a 146 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 9: different story. But yeah, other than that, Yeah, feeling really. 147 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 8: Good, Nathan. 148 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 6: It's cool to hear made after being so dominant in 149 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 6: game one, what went wrong in game two? And what 150 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 6: does New South Wales have to do to win this cider? 151 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 152 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 9: I think our first half in game two just simply 153 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 9: wasn't good enough. It wasn't up to any stand, any 154 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 9: regul league stand letlone origin standard. Just our discipline, then 155 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 9: compound with errors and then compound with poor defense and 156 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 9: also just our set finishes and all that, We're pretty poor. 157 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 9: I was really happy with the fight back in the 158 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 9: second half. But to give a team like Queens and 159 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 9: that sort of lead, yeah, it's very hard to run 160 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 9: down and we couldn't couldn't do that, So yeah, I 161 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 9: just got to focus on ourselves and getting those things right. 162 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 9: They've won rugby league games for over one hundred years now, 163 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 9: just simple stuff holding the ball and defending well, not 164 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 9: giving away penalties. So yeah, that's our main folks at 165 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 9: the moment. 166 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: Nathan, it's James Hooper. The Blues forwards were so dominant 167 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: in the opening game from the opening set and then 168 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: the script was completely flipped in the opening half of 169 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: game two. What do you think needs to change in 170 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: that area of the game. 171 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 9: I think it just refers back to what I was 172 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 9: talking about just before. I think, you know, field position 173 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 9: and possession goes a long way to helping those sort 174 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 9: of things, and getting on the front foot also sort 175 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 9: of where we're finishing our sets as well, a long 176 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 9: way with that too, So you know, I think at 177 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 9: the end of the day, if you'll defending the lot, 178 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 9: you're a lot more tired, so you're not doing as 179 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 9: much of the ball, and I was dominant, so you're 180 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 9: just trying to get to even share a possession and 181 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 9: trying to win that field position battle. 182 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 5: Nathan Michael, carry on, So you're among five players that 183 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 5: didn't train or were limited today. Where are the rest 184 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 5: of the boys out in terms of their fitness? I 185 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 5: guess the most concern around your pen of teammate Brian Tol. 186 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, he's tracking well, another one that's getting better every day. 187 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 9: I think it's just sort of precautionary early in the week. 188 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 9: Me and Jerome will definitely a training tomorrow, so today 189 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 9: was sort of just a primer for tomorrow. A few 190 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 9: other boys boys might take a bit longer, particularly busier, 191 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 9: but very confident that he'll be out there next Wednesday night, 192 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 9: which is the most important. 193 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: Nathan, kaylen Pong has gone down. The Hemmer comes in. Now, 194 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: what does that change for you guys? As the opposing 195 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: team is New South Wales? What threat does the hem 196 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: oppose that maybe Kaitlyn didn't know. Where are they different 197 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: that you've got to look out for? 198 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 9: I think they post similar threats to be honest. Obviously 199 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 9: the hammer speeds electric. He brings the X factor much 200 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 9: like Kaitlin did. So yeah, we're definitely gonna have to 201 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 9: be a a game defensively, particularly on the edges, probably 202 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 9: more so with the hammer he's in around the ruck 203 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 9: and on those off floads, just with his speed and 204 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 9: you know just the way you can tear through defenses 205 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 9: so quickly. I just need to be on high alert 206 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 9: anytime those Queensland forwards have the ball, and also anytime 207 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 9: they shift in it. So it's kind of all across 208 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 9: the board. But you know they've got a lot of 209 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 9: X factor all through their team, so it's not so 210 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 9: much less to focus on who's coming into fullback. It's 211 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 9: sort of where we went wrong last game with our 212 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 9: defense and trying to correct that. 213 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: Nathan, You've played under some great coaches, your old man, Malmaninger, Freddie. 214 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: What are Laurie Daily's best strengths. 215 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 9: I think he's just very personable, to be honest. He's 216 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 9: just a great bloke first and foremost, and then you 217 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 9: just see his passion coming out in the way he speaks, 218 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 9: and I really enjoy that. You know, I probably didn't 219 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 9: get to watch much of Low's play Origin, but Dad 220 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 9: always tells me that he's probably the best Origent player 221 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 9: he's ever seen, So that's high praise. But you'd never 222 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 9: think that just the way you talk to me is 223 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 9: a very humble man. He talks a lot about his downfalls, 224 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 9: more so than is what he did well. But you know, 225 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 9: the passion is there and that's the most important thing 226 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 9: and it always comes out when he speaks. 227 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 2: So love listening to him. 228 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 5: He touched on Jerome earlier, Mate reunited with him in 229 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 5: game two and again in game three. Is he any 230 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 5: different from the bloke that you partnered a couple of 231 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 5: well for a long time at Penrith. 232 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 9: No, not too different, obviously, still got the same personality. 233 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 9: I think one thing that is noticeable though, is his 234 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 9: leadership qualities have gone to another level. I think it 235 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 9: really stepped into that role last year sort of when 236 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 9: I was out with injury for big periods of the year. 237 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 9: He had the seven on his back and took that 238 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 9: real leadership role and a lot of things he says 239 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 9: is it really resonates with the group. He says the 240 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 9: right things at the right time, and he also says 241 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 9: things were a lot of passion, which is what we 242 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 9: all love about Jerome. He wears hard on his sleeve 243 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 9: when he plays, but also off the field. He's starting 244 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 9: to lean into that a bit more as well and 245 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 9: sort of saying that in the previous camp and in 246 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 9: the early doors of this camp too. Just he's not 247 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 9: afraid to speak up, and yeah, I'm loving that sort 248 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 9: of side of him. 249 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: Go on to a thanks for joining us, You're an 250 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: absolute champion. 251 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: I love your work and good luck next Wednesday night 252 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: winning this series decider. 253 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: For the Blues. 254 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 9: Appreciate it, guys, Thank you. 255 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: Legend he is Nathan Cleary. 256 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: But we love a theme in Origin Camp and this 257 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: year Billy's channeling Fatty's Nevil's from ninety five. We're not 258 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: quite sure the players are getting it though. 259 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: Origin series been a big tame for you, guys. Who 260 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: do you have in your locker before game one or two? 261 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: I had the first game? 262 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: I think I had it, Matt Singh I think it was, 263 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: and then the first game and then the second one. 264 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: I can't remember. 265 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which player from the ninety five 266 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: series if you had in your locker. 267 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: His name? 268 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 10: But I like Gilly, you know was Fortunately he coached 269 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 10: me and Os. Then it's good to have Billy watching 270 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 10: Gilly in that ninety five team. 271 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 1: First there was a bunt too. I think it was 272 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: a bun to a couple of years ago, and now 273 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: it's the Nevills. Are we surprised at these modes they finished? 274 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 8: Blokes? I don't remember the team either. 275 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: In fairness, but they're pretty That would have been young, Yeah, 276 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: that would have been born. 277 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: It wouldn't have been born five. 278 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: So we're in twenty twenty four now, that's wholly possible. 279 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, because the and they've got them plasted in their 280 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 5: dressing rooms. Like they alluded to, they should know who 281 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 5: the player that they've sort of partnered up. 282 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: He's adding their preparation all the book God in the 283 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: Iron doubt in their knowledge knowledge. 284 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, which is true. 285 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 6: I don't know every number eleven that war coeens and 286 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 6: I know Arthur did. 287 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, but if they're channeling this theme right, which is 288 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 5: what we're led to believe, then you should know who 289 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 5: wore the jersey before you in that series. 290 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 3: What's on the armband ninety five is etched on the armbands. 291 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 8: A really good point. 292 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 7: Game two. 293 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 4: I'm not saying they need to know every. 294 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 8: I'll have a chat on they'll have it tatooed by 295 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 8: next year. 296 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 4: Otherwise it's a waste of time. 297 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 6: No, thank you, Solfah, No, I agree, I agree, that's 298 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 6: really hard to argue. Right, you're playing nine ninety five, 299 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 6: you're wearing a jersey that those guys did the unthinkable? 300 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 6: Was it the unthinkable? 301 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 2: It was? 302 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 8: You know what I mean? And then are you there? 303 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 6: I do understand they're going to train or what what 304 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 6: sort of locker you said at because that was in 305 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 6: game one, I do said, But he would have got 306 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 6: it right, Maddie sing Holly was involved and Gilly wore 307 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 6: the number twelve or whatever, so they probably got it right. 308 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: But it took them a world To be fair, you 309 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: don't need to know every player. You didn't know what 310 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: happened that series, how they wanted, what they. 311 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 8: Were called, and who will be your number? 312 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 3: That's right, you know, so Blue Fairness fat He didn't 313 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 3: know who benemates all back in ninety five when he 314 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: was going to get in the lift. So Billy Will 315 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: haven't tapped in for Wednesday night, and I'm sure I'm 316 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 3: sure that he has given him a walk down memory 317 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: lane about what was achieved by that time. 318 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: Let's get back to the Tigers. 319 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: We had a bit of a full start before we 320 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: had to get into Nathan Cleary, but we did deatos 321 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: in but there's a bit more to these hoops, and 322 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: you've been all over it all day, Talon to Silva 323 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: walking out mid season, and then there's a now a 324 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: few stories about what's happening at the club at the moment. 325 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: It is a bit of a concern, isn't it. 326 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: Look it is a concern based on the fact that 327 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: I think from an outside point of view, some people 328 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: look at the Tigers and they think, well, the coaches changed, 329 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: the administration has changed, which needed to happen and was 330 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: hugely signific But off the back of six straight losses 331 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: a sixty four nil thumping by the Melbourne Storm at 332 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: Amy Park, it does feel like it's the same theme 333 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: and just a little bit of a different day. 334 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 7: Now. 335 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: Last week on the show, I said that the Holman 336 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: Barnes group were involved in Lachland Galvin's exit. That's not 337 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: the case, Rich I made that decision and the West 338 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: Tiger's board made that decision the same way that Benji 339 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: made the decision around Talon de Silva and letting Talon go. 340 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: And I think he's done that because there's a click 341 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 3: at the West Tigers, and it happens at all clubs. 342 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: As you Blake snaw click what with the players, with 343 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: the players and Benji, but the senior players and Benji, 344 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: And Benji needs buying from his leaders and they lack leaders. 345 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: At West Tigers, Happy is one leader. Jerome is the 346 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: other leader. 347 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: Aside from that. 348 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: Aside from that, you try and pick a captain out 349 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: of the current West Tigers squad and I think you'd struggle. 350 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: So that was why Benji went with, I've got to 351 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: keep happy. 352 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 7: I need to win now. 353 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: I don't need to win by the time Talon's ready 354 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: at the end of twenty twenty six. I need to 355 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: win tomorrow, right, So that's why he's backed him in there. 356 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 7: But the other factor is Jerome. 357 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: He's got to keep Jerome happy to because Jerome's got 358 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: that get out clause that he can activate as of 359 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 3: midway through next season and it can get him out 360 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: the following year. So I get what Benji's trying to do. 361 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 10: It. 362 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 8: Can I ask you guys a question. 363 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 6: I don't go on to dress rings, but the most 364 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 6: coaches have that relationship with senior players as well. 365 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: Of course, yeah, all the great Well you look at 366 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 3: the Raiders and Ricky Stewart, the relationship he's got with 367 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: Joe Tarpenhay and Josh Papali at the moment and go 368 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: back to when Cameron Smith played at the Melbourne Storm 369 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: and the relationship that he's got with Craig Bellamy Goad 370 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: to Penrith, it's the same there Nathan and Isaia with 371 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: Of course, to me that seems natural. But I think 372 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: where it has caused some rumblings is some of the 373 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: younger players. And we've seen Galvin exit a complete circus, right, 374 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: I think some of the younger players do feel as 375 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: though there might be some double. 376 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: Stand You're happy about or agree with the fact that 377 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: they let talent to Silver go and I tend to agree, 378 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: and there's a lot that also agree. 379 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: Why do you think they shouldn't let him? 380 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 5: Well, it's funny the talk around the senior players this year, 381 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 5: because last year he. 382 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 4: Was the senior players. 383 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 5: I thought Benji was too cuddly, cuddly with the rookie 384 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 5: players and he fell out with John Bateman and David 385 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 5: Klemor and some of those senior players, right, and because 386 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 5: of some treatment that he perceived treatment that he was 387 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 5: given the likes of Galvin and some of the younger players, 388 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 5: but the talent of silver one. I think it's remarkable 389 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 5: that we got to the point where a kid that 390 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 5: wasn't angling to leave the club, wasn't agitating, was going 391 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 5: about his business, wanted to be there, and told the 392 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 5: club as much that they let him go eighteen months 393 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 5: early from his contract. I could have understood once they 394 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 5: got to the end of seasons to believe. 395 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: Was there no agitation at all? They had to be 396 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: sure there was nothing. 397 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 7: It's a bit promise. 398 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 3: He's a local junior, he's a Campbelltown kid. 399 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 7: He wanted to stay. He wanted to stay. 400 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: I can't believe he just but he did make it 401 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 3: blatantly clear and rich. I went and sat with his parents. 402 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: If you're get to resign, appy, then it's only fair 403 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 3: that I do get the option to have a look 404 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: around and. 405 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 4: Just happy to play a second field the next year. 406 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 5: To happy he was, I didn't think if he will stay, 407 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 5: offered him a long term deal and said, look happy, 408 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 5: he's got twelve more months. 409 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 4: He's going to be a hooker next year. 410 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 5: He was quite happy to play off the bench next year, 411 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 5: but in twenty twenty seven he wasn't happy to do 412 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 5: that right, So that was the conversation there and there 413 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 5: are side struggling at the moment. That's spine that they've 414 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 5: put together this weekend. He's nowhere near full strength and 415 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 5: Benji's battling to save his coaching career if it gets 416 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 5: to the point where they're you know, Wooden spoon bound 417 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 5: again and he wasn't great last week telling I get 418 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 5: that right, but he's an upgrade of some of the 419 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 5: players that were there. 420 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 6: A West Tigers fan question, is there another number nine 421 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 6: that's seventeen or raighty? 422 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 4: They're not a good one. 423 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jared Haywood is a young system. He is, but 424 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 3: there are big wraps on him. He's Australian schoolboys captain. 425 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 3: That's part of the reasoning why they were happy to 426 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: let telling go of had other judges that I try 427 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: to tell me that they think Talon's farm advance to 428 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 3: where he is right now. 429 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: Now, just you spoke about Benji's relationship with the senior players, 430 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: is that is that getting the young players off and 431 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: they're looking elsewhere? 432 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 2: That is clearly, let's. 433 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,239 Speaker 7: Call it out for what it is. 434 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: Clearly it is because let's you've only got to go 435 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: back to the Lachland Galvin Chamozzle and the shambles to 436 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 3: see that he did get the shits about that he 437 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 3: was the golden boy? 438 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 8: Is this earlier? 439 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: Is this a generational thing or is this a problem 440 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: for the West Tigers because this never used to happen. 441 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: If you're a young guy, and I'm still going a 442 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: few of the export Dogs players today about this situation. 443 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 2: We couldn't comprehend it if you were an exit. And 444 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: you know it too. 445 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: When you're a young kid coming into grade, you do 446 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: what you're told and you earn, especially at that age, 447 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: and you do what the senior players tell you, and 448 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: you do what the coach tells you, and eventually you 449 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: earn the right to be in that position, to be 450 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: a dominant, you know, in whatever it is that you play. 451 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: And when you earn that right, you can dictate terms. 452 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: Now we we've got young guys. 453 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 6: Don't think that these are the kids that are coming through. 454 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 6: They've got ribbons for coming third. 455 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: They're dictating terms. This is the modern world, breath. It's 456 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: not like it was when you want a premiership. I 457 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 3: remember what it was like back at Belmore when. 458 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 2: We how are we allowing. 459 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 6: Tigers are putting the line in the same game, Well, 460 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 6: hold on that you earn your stripe. 461 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 8: Or just go. 462 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 3: It happens to the struggling clubs. They're vulnerable because when 463 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 3: players get frustrated, like what happened with Lockey Galvin. He's 464 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: the golden haired boy, first year, comes in, debuts at 465 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 3: eighteen straight out of high school, wins all the pre 466 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 3: season testing, forces his way into the side, has a 467 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: great season. But then in the background they go out 468 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 3: and by Jerome and Bench's a huge part of that. 469 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 3: And then when Jerome arrives, all of a sudden, Lockie 470 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 3: goes from being the shiniest toy at the West Tigers 471 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 3: to now Jerome's the main man. And I think that 472 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: was what created a big part of the friction. 473 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 5: And to your point, Draam should always have been the 474 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 5: main man. Coming with four premierships wows test football can. 475 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 6: As a young kid, that's who you want to play with. 476 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 6: I went to play in Brisbane because I played State 477 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 6: of Origin and I played with Ala Langa and I 478 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 6: went there and it was Glenn Lazarus right, and no 479 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 6: matter what he told me did when I went to 480 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 6: the Dragons, I sat on the bench for three years 481 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 6: because I had Dave Barney or Scott Gooley and Brad 482 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 6: mccaye in front of me. And that was the best 483 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 6: education and apprenticeship that I could have done right to 484 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 6: turn me into the player that I did, and everybody's 485 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 6: going I should be starting. And then when I got 486 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 6: put back in reserve grade, I wasn't the big dog 487 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 6: there because it was Wally Ford and Smith and other 488 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 6: guy's telling you what's wrong with that system. 489 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: But if the. 490 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: Clubs stay strong in these situations and they just say, 491 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: if they all just say the players are going to stay, 492 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: they sign a contract, they can't leave, and the NFL 493 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: back to all the clubs, we won't. 494 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 7: Have this because now is different. 495 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: But it's at a point who's where talent sees Galvin, 496 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: Galvin sees someone else, they see something, they're like, well 497 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: you know what, and the managers know that so think, okay, 498 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: well let's just say this or that, or we'll speak 499 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: to them. We'll get agitated, we'll do this, and before 500 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: you know, like even it's like I said, was leaving. 501 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: He left it in three weeks just because. 502 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 3: It changed because the agitation and the manipulation and the 503 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 3: agent steam right turned it into bullying. Right as soon 504 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: as you get the RPA involved bullying and lawyers. 505 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: That's laughable. 506 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: That's all you look back at that, well, it is 507 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 3: laughable after what he put on social media. 508 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 8: Talent, it won't change. 509 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 6: I think it was a club back in ninety five 510 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 6: or ninety six, ninety six it was that made a 511 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 6: kid sit out, and no other club and no other 512 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 6: player wanted to jump ship. And that was through a 513 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 6: time when there was two competitions and everybody was jumping ship. 514 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 6: And as soon as they made a kid sit out, 515 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 6: and that was me, no other player did it right. 516 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 6: And that's what the clubs need to do. Sit there 517 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 6: and the game's got to protect them. And I'm talking 518 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 6: about the game above and game no no, we are. 519 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 6: We are happy for that kid to sit out and 520 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 6: give the clubs back a little bit of power. 521 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 3: The thing that surprises me, Broath is when rich I 522 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: went to Penrith, right, and it's twenty years ago, but 523 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 3: when he got there he could see that the local 524 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 3: juniors were the future, similar to the way he outlined 525 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: that path way. When he got into the West Tigers, 526 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: within two years they won a premiership. Now granted, then 527 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: when he went to South's it was a little bit different. 528 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 7: They had a litany of. 529 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 3: Bigger, deeper issues, and it took a lot bigger to fix, 530 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: a lot more time to fix, but ultimately they got 531 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 3: there and they smashed a forty three year titled Drought. 532 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 3: It feels as though at the moment he's decided he's 533 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: going to give Benji the world. He's going to give 534 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 3: Benji everything he wants Benji to succeed. Well, what happens 535 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: with Benji doesn't succeed? 536 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: We know what happens. 537 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, we know what happens all right now reports that 538 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: Benji tackled Adam doing your training and it turned into 539 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: a fight. 540 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: Easy, what's happening? 541 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 5: There's been there doing the rounds and. 542 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 8: So good? 543 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: Does Benji does a pose work? 544 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 10: Right? 545 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 5: He steps in and essentially which I haven't seen coaches do, 546 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 5: runs plays like a half and gets into an opposed work. 547 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 5: And apparently their suggestions are that Adam and Adam Dewey 548 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 5: and and Benji Marshall during one of those a post sessions, 549 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 5: got up and had a bit of a heated altercation. 550 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 5: Whether that was a push and shave or verbal or 551 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 5: anything anything change, but it's what happened. 552 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 8: Apparently you love that from you, and that's leaked from within. 553 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 5: Oh obviously the many people that saw it were there, 554 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 5: seventeen whatever thirty old players that were there, and. 555 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 7: That's a bad scene. 556 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 3: So talking to a couple of the retired champion players and 557 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 3: some have coached as well earlier, and it's such a 558 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: dangerous road that because if Benji wax Dewey too hard, well, 559 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Benji's in the wrong and he's 560 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 3: lost respect that way, or vice versa. If Adam Dewey 561 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: sits him on his ass, what does that do in 562 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 3: terms of Benji's reputation in front of the group. I 563 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 3: just think it's a big no no. Coach Blake's coach 564 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: is putting the boots on right. 565 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 8: I don't think. 566 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 7: Wayne or Belly ate. 567 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 10: They got wrong on the board. 568 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: But he's younger, he's just retired, not that long ago. 569 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: He still carves him up, probably a clinical pick him 570 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: this week and a half. 571 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 5: Yes, started last He's He've been doing it since he's 572 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 5: been on the coaching staff. 573 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 4: So this is not new. The fact that you know 574 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 4: there was some sort of this. 575 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 7: Incident shows that it's fraught with danger can. 576 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: Be It can be for if he caves them up 577 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 2: for Tigers fans. 578 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: Honestly, I've got a headache right now listening to this. Sorry, 579 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: I can only imagine what they're going through. They've had 580 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: and then they could see the light at the start 581 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: of this year, they could see the light, and then 582 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: the Galvin staff and now it's snowboard into this and 583 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: here we are. 584 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy. 585 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: Miss Monday's episode, West Tigers CEO Shane Richardson will be 586 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: live in studio to answer all the big questions, and 587 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: Brad Fittler has explained his decision to knock back the 588 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: Kangaroo's coaching job. 589 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 11: Take a look, there's no fields booked, there's no hotels booked. 590 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 11: Oh really, there's no staff, right, So yeah, it's going 591 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 11: to happen. 592 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I just that's the first time I've 593 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: seen it, and so I don't know the context of 594 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: this because I didn't see what happened before that. 595 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: But what was that In response to that? Was that 596 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 2: the reason why he didn't That. 597 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 3: Was apparently according to the podcast, that was a big 598 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: part of the reasoning why Freddie decided he didn't want 599 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: to take the job as Kangaroo's coach. But they've got 600 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: to have a coach before they can sort out. 601 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 8: The accommodation, doesn't he. 602 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 7: A coach has to say, I mean god to you. 603 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 6: When there was a yeah, I thought Mal went over 604 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 6: there like when he was here and he picked the hotel, 605 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 6: You go pick the training pack, Paddi chad around, you 606 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 6: start doing a couple of trips around. I thought that 607 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 6: was something that they'd give the respect to the coach 608 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 6: to pick. 609 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 5: That's just today. All these things are on hold. Hotel 610 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 5: bookings are on hold, training venues are on hold. So 611 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 5: they're all there. They just need the coach to come 612 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 5: in and as Gordy said, give it the final tick 613 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 5: of approval, because there's no point doing all this leg 614 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 5: work and putting money down in case a coach comes 615 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 5: and changes, wants to change their roster, wants to change 616 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 5: how they train, where they train, and all these sort 617 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:09,719 Speaker 5: of things. 618 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 8: They based I think based themselves in Manchester. Correct, How 619 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 8: stay in a place we based ourselves in leads. 620 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: So was that the reason he did knock it back? 621 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 5: Because he's employed by the NRL too, Freddie in a 622 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 5: different role, so it's interesting that he was quite scathing 623 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 5: on it. But that's apparently that's part of the reason. 624 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 5: The other one was that he thought with his media 625 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 5: commitments he couldn't give him his full self when he 626 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 5: was analyzing players because or comment in on players, because 627 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 5: it gets awkward when he's got to pick them or 628 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 5: drop them, or whatever the case may be. 629 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 4: But yeah, it wasn't. 630 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 5: It was an interesting reason in and it did blindside 631 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 5: the NRL a little bit because they thought that Brad 632 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 5: Feller was going to be the next Kangaroo's coach. 633 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 4: But it throws it open a little bit now. 634 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 3: Freddie did an outstanding job when he first went in 635 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: and reunited a broken, fractured state in the new South 636 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 3: Wales set up. He won a couple of series straight away. 637 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: But where it started out a little bit pair shape was 638 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 3: when during Covid and Wayne came out of retirement and 639 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: started coaching Queensland again and Mel was involved in that series, 640 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 3: and the Blues wore some scathing criticism for losing a 641 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 3: series that most people were of the view they should 642 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: have won. I wonder if off the back of that, 643 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 3: Freddie then still continued to coach for a couple of 644 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 3: series after that with the Blues, but it felt as 645 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: a lot of the criticism really started to sting, and 646 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 3: I wonder if he had some reservations based around that 647 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 3: break that you just I think you'll coach again, But 648 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 3: I just wonder if the timing wasn't quite. 649 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 8: Right for him, who would you put as coach. 650 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: I haven't even thought about it, to be honest, but 651 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: I've heard Kevin Smith's being tossed up. And you know, 652 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: I could see Kevin Smith doing it because it suits him. 653 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 6: I do believe you've had to have played for the Jersey. 654 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 6: There's so many like there's like, there's enough guys that 655 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 6: are coaching that have played for the Jersey, all won 656 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 6: multiple premission. 657 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: What about like a Bennett Stuart Bellamy like club. 658 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 8: I love Wayne and I've heard rumors that he wants 659 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 8: to coach. 660 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 4: He wants it, but. 661 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 6: He's coached Australia, then he's coached New Zealand, and he's 662 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 6: coached England. I think you've done the trifecta seriously. 663 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 3: But he's a career Coach's allowed really good so he 664 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: went and worked for a really good point. 665 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 8: Where's his footy side now? 666 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 7: Sixteenth? 667 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 8: So he goes away for the whole preseason. 668 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 7: Well, he doesn't come in for the pre season anyway. 669 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 7: I think they need to go there. 670 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 8: You go, well, maybe he might have to start doing that. 671 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: I think they need to get the best candidate in 672 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 3: all seriousness, and if that means changing this rule, this 673 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 3: outdated rule that we can't have a club coach anymore, 674 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 3: because I wouldn't have an issue if it was Wayne, 675 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 3: if it was Ricky. To your point about someone who's 676 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: worn the jumper. Yes, Keavy Walders is another one who 677 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 3: springs to mind. 678 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 6: If I'm coaching a club and my blog's going to 679 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 6: go and focus and go away and not set up 680 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 6: a preseason and have my guys ready for March, he's 681 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 6: not doing it. I pay him the biggest slice of 682 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 6: the pie. So you either pick one or the other, 683 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 6: and that's me. 684 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 4: It does depend on the club setup. You're right, they're 685 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 4: go right. 686 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 5: I think if you want someone that's played for Australia, 687 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 5: that would rule out Craig Melany, right. 688 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 4: But Craig Melanie. 689 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 8: Got away. 690 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 5: Melbourne an't going to fall apart, right, So it just 691 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 5: depends on on the club, right, So I agree with 692 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 5: you into it a certain extent. It depends on how 693 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 5: that club is placed. If you're struggling, then you want 694 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 5: your coach there right. If you're Penrith or Melbourne, who've 695 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 5: done it a thousand times before Ricky, are established coaches, 696 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 5: then I think they could do it. I don't have 697 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,479 Speaker 5: an issue with a club coach doing but if it's 698 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 5: not a club what about. 699 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 6: Club coaches when they go away in the past and 700 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 6: you'd go away and Bose would pick you if you 701 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 6: went and played. 702 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 4: I don't think that what happened anymore. 703 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: I don't I. 704 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 8: Don't want to spend. 705 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 4: No no in terms of no no, they're get in 706 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 4: your ear. But I don't think they're going to say no, 707 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 4: of course they get in your ear. 708 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: Hello. 709 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 5: I don't think they're going to say, oh, if you 710 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 5: come and swim with me, you're going to play for 711 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 5: Australia like it was back in the day. But I 712 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 5: think it opens up the doors to coaches infiltrading the 713 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 5: current setup. That may rather out loud then well, as 714 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 5: soon as it happens, god, there'll be some drama. 715 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: Enough. 716 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: We had a huge reaction to South discussion last night. 717 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: Is the criticism around the club justified? 718 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's warranted. 719 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: You've only got a look at where they're sitting on 720 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 3: the ladder and the fact that a spare parts Dolphin's 721 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 3: side that were missing more than two million dollars out 722 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 3: of their forward pack put fifty points on them last 723 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 3: Saturday night. And I think when Wayne came into South 724 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: Sydney and they got that initial sugar hit and the 725 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 3: word around the game was it was all about coaching. 726 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 3: You know, Jason Demetrio clearly had lost the magic touch. 727 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 3: But now Wayne's back, he's galvanized the group. He's simplified it. 728 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: He's got him flying again. But to me, it's it's 729 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 3: key position players break. They've had no continuity. The Trail's 730 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 3: been on rep duty a lot. Katie keeps getting injured. 731 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 3: I think he's had force off tissue injuries. That's a 732 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 3: big risk back and for another year at his age 733 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: when he's already climbed them out and so many times 734 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 3: got him so close to that Grand Final in twenty 735 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 3: twenty one. I just feel as though they've made some 736 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 3: big recruitment blunders. 737 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, are they going to make some more? Well, it's 738 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 8: it's I need some forwards. Yeah. 739 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 5: I think they're balance of that roster is all out 740 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 5: of whack. Right where you look at where some of 741 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 5: the money that they've invested in it, and look, there's 742 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 5: no doubt, respect well, there's no doubt they've had the 743 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 5: worst injury run over in the last three seasons of 744 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 5: any club. 745 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 4: There's no doubt about that. Right. 746 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 5: You can sit there and break it all down and 747 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 5: that's an easy excuse, right, But you look at the 748 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 5: players they've brought in and what value they've brought to 749 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 5: the club. The high profile recruits. You've got Jack Whiden, 750 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 5: You've got Lewis Dodge, you've got Sean Kepy. If you're 751 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 5: the high profile guys that haven't had an impact. Jack 752 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 5: Whydon arrived as a test player in New South Wales 753 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 5: player on eight hundred thousand dollars a season and whilst 754 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 5: his efforts being commendable, he hasn't broken the game open 755 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 5: like he did at camera. To the point Canberra we're 756 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 5: going to offer him more than a million dollars a season. 757 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 5: It's interesting the fact that they're going to resign Cody 758 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 5: Walker because Jack Whden's original deal four years. He's got 759 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 5: two more years left on that deal. The original plan 760 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 5: was to playhim at center for two years. Then in 761 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 5: the third year, shifting back into the halves to partner 762 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 5: whoever the half back may be. At that time it 763 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 5: was Lucky Ilia, so there's been lots of change. It's 764 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 5: easy to point the finger at Lewis Dodds recruitment and 765 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 5: that mistake or perceived mistake, but he hasn't had an 766 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 5: opportunity in the top grade or an extended run in 767 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 5: the top grade where some of these other players have, 768 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 5: and they haven't lived up to their price tags either. 769 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: Well, this will take along along with merely in this 770 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: weekend and we'll keep an eye on it now journo, 771 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: as you'll keep playing matchups for around eighteen thanks to Ossie. 772 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 3: Broadbeing Friday Night Broth the Bulldogs up against the Bronco 773 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 3: Selwyn Cobbo back into the side with Rus Walsh on 774 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 3: state of origin, Judy, I think you'll have a point 775 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 3: to prove up against Connetration. 776 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, therell may for the Tigers up against the Sydney 777 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 5: Roosters and Nafarhu White's been really good for the Roosters 778 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 5: this year, so I like that matchup in the middle 779 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 5: of the field. 780 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: Beautiful hoops outstanding as all ways. Up next, it's the 781 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: Legends agenda with Ben Alias and Jeff two. 782 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 10: What