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Speaker 1: No shooks, no lefties looking forward to this. Also, I'm
Speaker 1: going to explain to you why lefties are freaking out
Speaker 1: about just enterprise taking an even bigger role in the
Speaker 1: upcoming federal election. To one of them at Cole Flint,
Speaker 1: who is going to try to take back a seat
Speaker 1: that she had in the Federal Parliament for a while
Speaker 1: Boothby in South Australia. Well, if the covalation needs to
Speaker 1: get close, she needs to win. We'll have a chat
Speaker 1: to her about her plan to do so in a
Speaker 1: moment or two time. And the Great Donald Trump, the
Speaker 1: man is winning even when at times he's not even trying.
Speaker 1: The new broom that is sweeping the world. Now, I
Speaker 1: know we've heard all day about News Poll. We told you,
Speaker 1: of course about it first last night. That's why Sunday
Speaker 1: Night hard cause it doesn't matter if they're sport on
Speaker 1: another thing. The final of this the semi five. Make
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Speaker 1: that podcast and suggest it to a friend. As we
Speaker 1: told you, the Liberal Party back in front after the
Speaker 1: summer summer. That was yet again another reset for the
Speaker 1: Prime Minister. But I want to take some time to
Speaker 1: talk about some of the other things that are deeper
Speaker 1: inside the poll, including people's perceptions of what is about
Speaker 1: to happen at the federal election now primary vote. Under
Speaker 1: the News Poll, it is down from the last election
Speaker 1: for the Labor Party, down by a couple of points
Speaker 1: for the Libs anounce it is up by quite a
Speaker 1: few points as you can see there, up to thirty
Speaker 1: nine down to thirty one. The two party preferred is
Speaker 1: now ALP forty nine and the Coalition at fifty one.
Speaker 1: But the angle that Simon Benson put on the story
Speaker 1: about the poll has been much of the discussion today
Speaker 1: that a majority of voters now believe that the coalition
Speaker 1: is going to win the next election. Now, remember the
Speaker 1: poles have been pointing this way. The bookies think that's
Speaker 1: the case. And forty seven percent of people say that
Speaker 1: a Labor government majority or minority will end up being
Speaker 1: the one put in place, or it's going to be
Speaker 1: a Liberal National government to the tone of fifty three percent.
Speaker 1: I lacked out the numbers for you if you want
Speaker 1: me to, but there we go forty seven. Interestingly, fifty
Speaker 1: one percent of Labor voters think that their government the
Speaker 1: best they can do is form a minority. But I
Speaker 1: want everyone to sit down and have a chat. Who
Speaker 1: would like to see a change of government? And the
Speaker 1: Liberal National Party being the one that formed forty six
Speaker 1: percent of people told news poll of Liberal and National
Speaker 1: voters that they think that they won't just get their
Speaker 1: via minority, they'll get their majority. Okay, there's also a
Speaker 1: bit of a gender split here. You know how the
Speaker 1: Liberal Party's got a problem with women are not quiet.
Speaker 1: You see, men think that Labor will get there via
Speaker 1: a minority at fifty one percent versus forty nine, and
Speaker 1: it is women who believe that the Liberal National Party will
Speaker 1: be the next government of Australia fifty eight percent to
Speaker 1: forty two. Oh, but the Liberals have a problem with women.
Speaker 1: Get ready for that to be one of the tactics
Speaker 1: that Labor plays and plays hard in the next little while. Now,
Speaker 1: the reason I want to have a chat with you
Speaker 1: about this tonight is that I want to deliver a
Speaker 1: reality check. Not because I don't think the government is terrible,
Speaker 1: not because I don't think that the issues are going
Speaker 1: their way, not because I think that at no other
Speaker 1: point in time has the establishment and access media sources
Speaker 1: been as ignored as they are right now. But more so,
Speaker 1: I want you to understand the hill that needs to
Speaker 1: be climbed because it is quite significant for the LMP.
Speaker 1: Let me explain here. So you need seventy six seats
Speaker 1: to form a majority. LAID currently has seventy eight, meaning
Speaker 1: of course that they can lose two seats and still
Speaker 1: be in a majority. Lose three they go into a minority.
Speaker 1: But with the Greens you now start to see the
Speaker 1: numbers have to push down to like seventy four seats,
Speaker 1: or even if they start to push down to seventy two,
Speaker 1: the Greens would be able to save them, depending on
Speaker 1: how many of the Teals stick around. Well, that two
Speaker 1: could mean that we're not talking about losing four here
Speaker 1: and four there. They could end up losing almost ten
Speaker 1: and still have a pretty viable, negotiable path back into government.
Speaker 1: Now that means that what you do with your preferences
Speaker 1: matters more than ever before, because it's not just about
Speaker 1: the seats that the Liberal Party will win in its
Speaker 1: own right or return back to the fold. Places like
Speaker 1: a being Along in New South Wales or a Gilmour
Speaker 1: in New South Wales. Both were sites that were seats
Speaker 1: that were decided by about one thousand or even less
Speaker 1: than five hundred votes in the of Gilmour, which is
Speaker 1: in and around Bateman's Bay and the South Coast. But
Speaker 1: they do need preferences to go their way. Meaning if
Speaker 1: you are somebody who is about the twenty percent of
Speaker 1: Australians that are currently sitting outside of Team Read or
Speaker 1: Team Blue, well what you do with your number two
Speaker 1: is going to determine what happens here now. Interestingly, some
Speaker 1: eageroid people have noticed about the opinion polls and about
Speaker 1: how they have been pulled apart and how we get
Speaker 1: to say fifty one forty nine is that we end
Speaker 1: up getting there because it's based off the preferences at
Speaker 1: the last election. Now, in two thousand and nineteen, the
Speaker 1: surprise election result was because people who didn't vote for
Speaker 1: the Liberal and National Party first did put them at
Speaker 1: number two, meaning that preferences were flowing let's roughly say
Speaker 1: two thirds back to the coalition, and that meant that
Speaker 1: they were able to get enough seats to get a
Speaker 1: majority in their own right. Now, there were no teals
Speaker 1: back then, but still that is the mats in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, when some of the messaging that was out
Speaker 1: there was bugger them all, kind of two out of
Speaker 1: three ended up not going back. They may have eventually,
Speaker 1: but they were sent on a very long journey. It
Speaker 1: meant that say some local independence were able to end
Speaker 1: up getting to the two party runoff with Labor as
Speaker 1: opposed to the Liberal and National Party. But again I
Speaker 1: want you to understand that where it sits right now
Speaker 1: is not Hallelujah, this is going to happen. The spin
Speaker 1: that was put on it today from experienced people writing
Speaker 1: at news dot com. Do you say that the best
Speaker 1: interpretation of the polls is a potential win of between
Speaker 1: seven and fourteen seats. Now, as you can see, the
Speaker 1: coalition desperately does need an awful lot more seats than
Speaker 1: that to be able to get close enough to a
Speaker 1: position where literally they have to have more seats than
Speaker 1: the Labor Party, And then the Teals and Independence and
Speaker 1: people like Rebecca Sharky, who most likely would get re
Speaker 1: elected in the seat Mayo in South Australia, and Bob
Speaker 1: Catter have all sort of said that basically, the team
Speaker 1: that has the most number of seats is the one
Speaker 1: with the first right to govern, and that's out the
Speaker 1: negotiations begin. Remember that Anthony Alvenizi's job at one of
Speaker 1: them in twenty ten to twenty thirteen was to wrangle
Speaker 1: the cross Beach. Now, of course he was easily able
Speaker 1: to do it because there were turncoats like Oakshot and
Speaker 1: Windsor who would do anything to deny their former party
Speaker 1: any path towards government. But we all know that that
Speaker 1: twenty ten to twenty thirteen period led to the massive
Speaker 1: win of Tony Abbott, only to be squandered by twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen when again preferences and primary votes started to change.
Speaker 1: So let's have a look here last night on and
Speaker 1: every Sunday night. Again a reason why I want you
Speaker 1: to watch that Sunday night show, Record that Sunday Night show,
Speaker 1: watch it the next day, whatever, but be here on
Speaker 1: Sunday night, because we're going to do a segment every
Speaker 1: Sunday night. We've done this since we came back a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, where we sit down with Michael Kroger,
Speaker 1: who knows and the best case scenario for those who
Speaker 1: want to see a change in government. But we also
Speaker 1: have a chat to the people from Redbridge. These are
Speaker 1: the people who are doing serious data and analysis. They're
Speaker 1: not just doing polls, They're doing focus groups, and they
Speaker 1: are at the moment the people who are willing to
Speaker 1: tell us a lot of what's happening behind the scenes
Speaker 1: when it comes to part of the data. Now, the
Speaker 1: Red Brig group will join us each and every Sunday
Speaker 1: night to go through the very latest data and also
Speaker 1: what they are hearing out of the focus groups. Now, again,
Speaker 1: none of this is an exact science. As we've said before.
Speaker 1: With the United States, look at where the bookies are
Speaker 1: probably more so than the Poles, but all of the
Speaker 1: bookies right now. So there will be a change of government.
Speaker 1: So if that's going to come from somewhere, where does
Speaker 1: it come from? This was their suggestion last night. The
Speaker 1: election is going to be decided in New South Wales
Speaker 1: and Victoria. Lives could pick up a couple of seats
Speaker 1: in WI, but it's only a couple of that you're
Speaker 1: going to make up the eighteen seats. So you need numbers,
Speaker 1: you need those big number, So those pig numbs are
Speaker 1: in New South Wales and Victoria. So I had to
Speaker 1: look at this today of all of the seats that
Speaker 1: are needed to get the coalition into a majority government.
Speaker 1: So again the most unlikely of the scenarios, but the
Speaker 1: best case scenario for Peter Dutton and his supporters and
Speaker 1: no doubt many people watching right now who would like
Speaker 1: that to be the case. Well, where are the most
Speaker 1: marginal seats? I had to look at about eighteen of
Speaker 1: the most marginal seats for the Labor Party and this
Speaker 1: is what it shows you That six of them are
Speaker 1: in New South Wales, six of them are in Victoria.
Speaker 1: Twelve seats is great, but twelve seats may not get
Speaker 1: you into a position where you have more seats than
Speaker 1: the Labor Party, and the Labor Party would then be
Speaker 1: in the box seat to be able to potentially negotiate
Speaker 1: its way back to power. It would be a terrible
Speaker 1: inferior government. But I'm trying to temper the expectation. If
Speaker 1: the largest number of people who plan to vote for
Speaker 1: the coalition are saying that their expectation is a Labor sorry,
Speaker 1: a coalition majority, there's a lot more work to do
Speaker 1: outside of New Southwald Victoria. Potentially two of the most
Speaker 1: vulnerable seats for we are in Western Australia for Labour
Speaker 1: two in Tasmania taking the clean sweep all the way
Speaker 1: from the north down to half way through Tasmania. They
Speaker 1: don't have many seats up for grabs. In Queensland one
Speaker 1: is the one most likely and again Boothby in South Australia.
Speaker 1: Put all that together, yeah, you get to a coalition majority.
Speaker 1: But as you can see, we have to try to
Speaker 1: have a look at what is happening state by state,
Speaker 1: which takes us over to the resolve political monitor. These
Speaker 1: are the polls that come out on the Channel nine
Speaker 1: websites and newspapers, and it shows that nationally Peter Dutton
Speaker 1: is the preferred prime minister right now, thirty nine to
Speaker 1: thirty four. In the seats where twelve are up for grabs,
Speaker 1: Dutton is leading by a huge number in New South Wales,
Speaker 1: a very strong number in Victoria. And then once you
Speaker 1: start to add a thirteenth seats, say in Queensland, Dutton
Speaker 1: is absolutely thumping home there. But again let me caution you,
Speaker 1: thirteen seats does not a majority make the rest of
Speaker 1: Australia by a slim margin. So we're talking about Western Australia,
Speaker 1: South Australia, Tasmania and the Northern Territory, but not too
Speaker 1: much polling happens in the Northern Territory. And yes there's
Speaker 1: a seat up for grabs in the Northern Territory and
Speaker 1: two in South Australia, and sorry, two in Tasmania, and
Speaker 1: two in South Australia and two in West Australia. And
Speaker 1: if all that goes their way, then of course a
Speaker 1: majority government. But it's so fascinating to look at the
Speaker 1: picture that nationally, the strength on the east coast of
Speaker 1: the mainland is pretty obvious here where the lot bulk
Speaker 1: of the seats are, and a couple of surprises might
Speaker 1: turn up that that is where the best shot of
Speaker 1: pulling it all together is because that's the most number
Speaker 1: of seats, the most number of contented contested seats, and
Speaker 1: the most number of population. But the wrinkle is that
Speaker 1: outside of those areas, still and ever so slightly, it
Speaker 1: is Albaneze who is the preferred prime minister. So watch
Speaker 1: this space now again. The purpose of this show and
Speaker 1: the purpose of what we try to do here each
Speaker 1: and every night is I've got a very strong opinion
Speaker 1: and i am going to chase these people as hard
Speaker 1: as I've ever chased them because the future of the
Speaker 1: country is at risk. Three more years after the three
Speaker 1: years that we had cannot be tolerated. Will not be
Speaker 1: acceptable to the vast majority of Australians who have been
Speaker 1: doing it, particularly tough demographics and a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: other reasons, including that block of teals is the difference.
Speaker 1: But I'm also not going to hide from you the data,
Speaker 1: the polling in the context of other polling that is
Speaker 1: going to give us a slightly clearer picture of how
Speaker 1: realistic the options are. The four options on the table
Speaker 1: from labor majority to labor minority to liberal national minority
Speaker 1: to liberal national majority. Now increasingly in polls there are
Speaker 1: lots of undecideds. When they are breaking, they are breaking
Speaker 1: the coalition's way. But we are only at the start
Speaker 1: of a process, the start of a process where the
Speaker 1: Prime Minister has attempted yet another reset and it hasn't
Speaker 1: moved the needle. But you know the air cover he's
Speaker 1: going to get from his mates in the press and
Speaker 1: the activists who will promise to make life hell. You've
Speaker 1: got to hope that people will see the difference between
Speaker 1: the two teams and make a conclusion that obviously you
Speaker 1: and I would be hoping for. But I'm not going
Speaker 1: to muck around, and I'm not going to happy talk.
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you what's really going on. And
Speaker 1: yes I'll have my opinion, and we'll point out plenty
Speaker 1: of holes in everything that they've done. But my promise
Speaker 1: to you is to always tell you what's really going on,
Speaker 1: not just to times what we like to be going
Speaker 1: on or the message that we would just love to
Speaker 1: float amongst the population. So it was cautionary to me
Speaker 1: to see the people who are voting Liberal National who
Speaker 1: think they're going to go for a majority. Great, keep
Speaker 1: up the confidence, but you've got to convince your neighbor.
Speaker 1: You've got to convince your friend about their preferences. You've
Speaker 1: got to do that work to amplify some of the
Speaker 1: facts that you hear on this program. By sharing some
Speaker 1: of the content, you do all of that skynews dot
Speaker 1: com dot you and share on any and all of
Speaker 1: your socials. Of course, cost of living number one issue
Speaker 1: in the country. It doesn't matter what pole when it's
Speaker 1: been the same for the past few years. Of course
Speaker 1: it was before the last election. And never forget the
Speaker 1: promise that Anthony Albernezi had made. It is one that
Speaker 1: I think some I don't know whether our production team
Speaker 1: can get access to a printer a three poster. I'm
Speaker 1: going to whack it behind me to remind everyone. Their
Speaker 1: promise was a labor government will lower the cost of living.
Speaker 1: That was the promise. But the reality is interest rates
Speaker 1: up twelve times on their watch. When you go to
Speaker 1: the supermarket, does anything cost less than it did the
Speaker 1: best part of three years ago. Petrol ever hitting new highs.
Speaker 1: It's so frequently got a two in front of it.
Speaker 1: Albanzi was trying to score political points back when it
Speaker 1: was a dollar seventy five. He's increased taxes by the
Speaker 1: way on things like petrol. But that's all right, no
Speaker 1: one's going to notice. You're going to focus on how
Speaker 1: scary and trumpy and Peter Dunton please. And then there's
Speaker 1: the explosion in excise tax. The excise tax which exists
Speaker 1: on things like tobacco and beer, the types of things
Speaker 1: that some people might choose to do. Not amazing for
Speaker 1: your health, certainly in the case of smoking when it
Speaker 1: comes to your own recreation, but you know that it's
Speaker 1: a pint, a pot or a glass. And even as
Speaker 1: an on drinker, I notice how expensive this stuff can
Speaker 1: has become. And I want to say, well under the
Speaker 1: good people of bunderberg Rum, because as I have shown
Speaker 1: you many times before, this wonderful special personalized bottle of
Speaker 1: bunderberg Rum is a perfect symbol of how the excise
Speaker 1: tax under this government has got wildly out of control.
Speaker 1: And they are deciding not just to let people know
Speaker 1: once they go around and find the details, they've decided
Speaker 1: to launch a new website and a campaign through the
Speaker 1: federal election. Hurts. Some radio adds about this and it
Speaker 1: tells you that that bottle of Bundy that I just
Speaker 1: held up. Sixty three percent of it is tax. Now,
Speaker 1: of course, at some point in time businesses that have
Speaker 1: that are making things, but the actual sticker price more
Speaker 1: than half sixty three percent of which in fact isn't
Speaker 1: going back to that company to employ people to up
Speaker 1: their operations in Bundy and around the country. No, it's
Speaker 1: going straight to the tax man. Now, we all understand
Speaker 1: that nobody wants to pay higher income taxes. A national
Speaker 1: debate about increasing the GST, while in my view valuable
Speaker 1: or changes when it comes to company tax probably not
Speaker 1: going to be accepted. So they are all these sly
Speaker 1: little ways that they introduce extra taxes. This mob that says, oh,
Speaker 1: we're all about cost of living, We're totally focused on
Speaker 1: cost of living. They have made the decisions to increase
Speaker 1: the taxes on everything from Bundy to petrol. All of
Speaker 1: that has made life in Australia harder. But the Prime
Speaker 1: Minister now getting into a standoff with the Reserve Bank,
Speaker 1: who have previously said that things like government spending like
Speaker 1: hiring more public servants than ever before, giving pay rises
Speaker 1: that is the highest in a decade, not to mention
Speaker 1: all of the money that is going on projects around
Speaker 1: the country. Well, it keeps the inflation high. If inflation
Speaker 1: remains high, then interest rates don't come down. Now this
Speaker 1: government has said, oh we've got on top of inflation yet,
Speaker 1: but remember it's not the real number. The number of
Speaker 1: inflation is artificial at the moment because of the three
Speaker 1: hundred dollars for mansions through the one bedroom units in
Speaker 1: the bush. When it comes to power prices, you don't
Speaker 1: see that money. It's given to the power companies. Then
Speaker 1: the artificial reduction in price is put up as a
Speaker 1: reason why inflation is getting better, but it is not.
Speaker 1: Now figures cross. It does get better because that's what
Speaker 1: Australians want, but it's not going to be because of
Speaker 1: this government. But this government knowing that it is run
Speaker 1: out of time and two little too late tax cuts
Speaker 1: and removing fifteen hundred dollars for ten million taxpayers in
Speaker 1: one of their first acts as a government, and increasing
Speaker 1: the tax on beer, on wine, on cigarettes and on
Speaker 1: petrol has made their life harder. Now they're just outright
Speaker 1: bsing you and again they will play the game where
Speaker 1: it's the reserve banks fold not the governments. That inflation
Speaker 1: is not where it should be. When it is where
Speaker 1: it should be in other countries around the world.
Speaker 2: We have done all we can is a government to
Speaker 2: create better conditions for monetary policy to work together with
Speaker 2: what the governor has done.
Speaker 1: I couldn't disagree more. We've got the receipts. If you've
Speaker 1: watched this show every night, then you know it by
Speaker 1: chapter and verse. If you check it out once a week,
Speaker 1: you know it by chapter and verse. If you pass
Speaker 1: by us every few weeks, you know it in chapter
Speaker 1: and verse. Because you are living it, you know it
Speaker 1: and you know how hard life has become. The promise
Speaker 1: was for it to get better. It got worse. How
Speaker 1: would our national media have reacted if Tony Abbert promises
Speaker 1: to stop the boat's boats, but more boats ended up
Speaker 1: turning up. We know exactly what would be the case.
Speaker 1: It's interesting that in all of the promise trackers that
Speaker 1: say the government has delivered on many of its commitments,
Speaker 1: I noticed the one to promise that cost of living
Speaker 1: would go down is never counted. Jeez, I wonder why.
Speaker 1: Something that also happened over the long weekend was Peter
Speaker 1: Dutton rearranged some of the people that are taking on
Speaker 1: the federal government at the upcoming election in the shadow
Speaker 1: minister or portfolios most importantly and most noted. And I
Speaker 1: know you've seen this with everyone else, and it's great
Speaker 1: to see everyone back and firing it to full cylinders
Speaker 1: here at Sky News. Remember from five PM with Chris
Speaker 1: all the way through to reader at eleven o'clock, we
Speaker 1: are on all cylinders here at Sky News. Juice the
Speaker 1: Price moves out of the Indigenous Afairs portfolio. She is
Speaker 1: now moving into the specific responsibility of going after government waste.
Speaker 1: Now this most importantly means that rather than the media
Speaker 1: seeking her out to only speak on the specific policy
Speaker 1: areas of Indigenous Australia, she now has a wider portfolio
Speaker 1: to be able to go after the government. And as
Speaker 1: she showed when it came to the debate with the Voice,
Speaker 1: she is formidable. There are few politicians that I have
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life that can draw a crowd,
Speaker 1: draw attention, or convince a room with the clarity that
Speaker 1: your sin to Nampa Jumper Price does. He's Peter Dunt't
Speaker 1: explaining her promotion.
Speaker 3: She will take on the important role of shadow Minister
Speaker 3: for government efficiency. Work that you sent it will do,
Speaker 3: which will come under the prime Minister and cabinet portfolio
Speaker 3: in government will be to find Labour's waste.
Speaker 1: Now important to note in all of this here that
Speaker 1: going after government waste in government is nothing new. There
Speaker 1: have been multiple people that have been fighting this front
Speaker 1: on multiple sides of the political aisle with named portfolios
Speaker 1: for at least a decade or certainly multiple election cycles.
Speaker 1: But because the left's narrative is that they want to
Speaker 1: turn Peter Dudden into Donald Trump, then because Donald Trump
Speaker 1: also has Elon Musk looking after the efficiency or the
Speaker 1: lack thereof at times with the American government, oh they're out.
Speaker 1: So get ready for a blitzgreg of garbage like this today,
Speaker 1: which was from Doge to Smoge. Peter Duttan's coalition is
Speaker 1: an eerie echo of Trump and Musk's America and an
Speaker 1: eerie echo of Trump's plans to radically cut government employees.
Speaker 1: Dunton has recently stepped up his criticism of the growth
Speaker 1: of the public service, as well as criticizing woke progressive causes. Now,
Speaker 1: for some people, we're going to have to go back
Speaker 1: to our old metaphor about Goldilock's politics, where for some
Speaker 1: people and certainly the left, they're going to say that
Speaker 1: he's too Trump for the people who want to ignore
Speaker 1: the practicalities of how you actually can win an election
Speaker 1: in the cay. Oh, he's not Trump enough. So we've
Speaker 1: seen a couple of things where he's not going to
Speaker 1: go the full Trump when it comes to things like
Speaker 1: a Paris. He's not going to go the full Trump
Speaker 1: when it comes to things like gender. And you can
Speaker 1: think what you want about it. But Peter Dudden sort
Speaker 1: of thinks that the Goldilocks position of what has successfully
Speaker 1: happened with elections in the UK where it was the
Speaker 1: Labor Party doing it, but more importantly conservatives in places
Speaker 1: like New Zealand that have also taken on a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of woke and of course what happened in the
Speaker 1: United States and potentially what's about to happen fingers crossed
Speaker 1: in Canada, is that he thinks that the Goldilocks moment
Speaker 1: is to focusing yes on social issues where things have
Speaker 1: got widely out of control, where the people who never
Speaker 1: ask for permission but just change everything, and then if
Speaker 1: you argue about it being changed, that somehow you're fighting
Speaker 1: a culture war to start to give more support to
Speaker 1: those people to have clearer sense of Australian values and
Speaker 1: the want to implement them, regardless of the opinion pieces
Speaker 1: and the handwringing that may happen on parts of social
Speaker 1: media or taxpayer media, but certainly going after government efficiency
Speaker 1: in a government that has promised us with their very
Speaker 1: own intergenerational report that their decisions on spending will put
Speaker 1: the federal budget into a federal budget deficit for not
Speaker 1: the next one, five, ten, twenty or thirty years, it's
Speaker 1: for the next forty. That's where this government has got us.
Speaker 1: That's why just Enterprise with the facts with the ideas
Speaker 1: is going to be hell for the Labor Party to
Speaker 1: deal with. So it'll be very personal and that will
Speaker 1: be only a greater sign of how effective she and
Speaker 1: Dunton and the team are going to be at taking
Speaker 1: on the mob because it is a big mountain, but
Speaker 1: it's a mountain where they can take some pretty big
Speaker 1: chunks out of it between now and whenever it is
Speaker 1: the time that we get to vote now. Interestingly, I've
Speaker 1: said all this year, and I've thought about it for
Speaker 1: many years, but I've certainly spoken about it this year
Speaker 1: that I think that at times our politics has become
Speaker 1: a little bit too small. I am tired of the
Speaker 1: daily announcements from political leaders saying we've got one million
Speaker 1: dollars for this in a local area, hoping that the
Speaker 1: people in that electorate will all flip and suddenly say,
Speaker 1: oh wow, are they going to help us out with something,
Speaker 1: when the reality is that we are not voting for
Speaker 1: a local councilor of course, we are voting for national
Speaker 1: leadership and we want big nationwide leadership. Interesting piece today
Speaker 1: by David Crow, who I normally never agree with in
Speaker 1: the Cydney Morning Error, but he writes in the Race
Speaker 1: to be Australia is Lord Mayor alber Easy has spent
Speaker 1: one point two billion dollars. So this is one point
Speaker 1: two billion dollars on sort of very small announcements which
Speaker 1: are all to justify the press conference of the day.
Speaker 1: I want to see the strength of these people's character
Speaker 1: to have big ideas, announce them all at the start
Speaker 1: of the campaign, because a lot of people vote early
Speaker 1: now like half of people vote before the week of
Speaker 1: an election, lit alone the actual election. So waiting for
Speaker 1: the taxpayer funds to dry up when it comes to
Speaker 1: your travel and announcing things, you know, the fine a week.
Speaker 1: It doesn't cut mustard with people, and the idea that
Speaker 1: we need to have an announcement a day to keep
Speaker 1: everyone happy. No no core values, big ideas, Ramdom home,
Speaker 1: have a look at this. Labour has ramped up its
Speaker 1: spending on local projects and a bid dissway voters in
Speaker 1: some of the toughest battlegrounds in the federal election, pledging
Speaker 1: more than one point two b four billion dollars this
Speaker 1: month amid the political rail with the Coalition, who, of
Speaker 1: course see our previous comments about spending. Local spending ranges
Speaker 1: from Labor pledging a new aquatic center in Perth to
Speaker 1: Liberal Party promises to fix lights at suburban cricket fields
Speaker 1: in Melbourne. The Prime Minister Anthony Aberinezi has promised twelve
Speaker 1: point seven million dollars for a theater and an arts
Speaker 1: center in lon Cesson. That's because they want to win
Speaker 1: the seat of Bass. Five million dollars in Nara for
Speaker 1: housing projects in Gilmore, six million dollars for the living
Speaker 1: city projects in Davenport, which of course is all part
Speaker 1: of the marginal seat in Bradden. Now again, Coalition is
Speaker 1: guilty of making some of these promises, but it's the
Speaker 1: Prime minister who's doing the rats and my stuff of
Speaker 1: one point two billion dollars.
Speaker 3: We will have to clean up Labour's mess after the
Speaker 3: next election as well. The Albanizi government has spent money
Speaker 3: like drunken salors.
Speaker 1: Watch this space. It's not their money. It's not their
Speaker 1: money that they're dolling out. We shouldn't be thankful for
Speaker 1: what they promise. It's your money. And yes there are
Speaker 1: local projects that need to be supported. You're not going
Speaker 1: to hear a lot of argument about me out of that.
Speaker 1: But the idea that every single day we're going to say, oh, look,
Speaker 1: we're here in beautiful insert area to announce insignificant to
Speaker 1: the rest of the country announcement. Here's the local candidate
Speaker 1: which no one will see on their television at night,
Speaker 1: to justify them, standing behind the said leader, nodding, nodding, nodding, nodding, nodding.
Speaker 1: Everyone holding a brochure with their big plan, tell us
Speaker 1: your plan. Commit to some big values, some big ideas.
Speaker 1: Because Australia can cop it, I get it. Compulsory voting
Speaker 1: means there are a certain number of people who somehow
Speaker 1: can be BSD and can be bought. But I believe
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who know the case for
Speaker 1: why we need to get rid of the government and
Speaker 1: do not need to be bought as a way of
Speaker 1: trying to change the government. It's about values and hammering
Speaker 1: that nail every single day and speaking in and around
Speaker 1: of other people's money. Worth noting here Northern Beaches Council
Speaker 1: in Sydney, beautiful part of Australia, very teal and thanks
Speaker 1: to the wonderful Don Harwin, he says, with their quotes,
Speaker 1: there were no Liberals who of course were running for
Speaker 1: that local council. Of course, you know they forgot to
Speaker 1: fill out the paperwork, so pretty much Teal or even
Speaker 1: further left control of one of these beautiful areas that
Speaker 1: has previously given us great political leaders like Roman Bishop
Speaker 1: and Tony Abbott. Well, they want to increase their rates
Speaker 1: on the very people of the Northern Beaches. And yeah,
Speaker 1: there's some cashed up people there, butch there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people who aren't, a lot of people who rent,
Speaker 1: a lot of people who struggle, a lot of families
Speaker 1: that are holding on tight. They want to put up
Speaker 1: their rates by forty forty four zero percent. How's this
Speaker 1: for the excuse from the mayor. The mayor added that
Speaker 1: the high inflation, storms and floods, COVID and the shifts
Speaker 1: in cost to council from other areas of government put
Speaker 1: pressure on the council's ability to maintain services. Now, I
Speaker 1: have no doubt that there are many local councils that
Speaker 1: need more money as long as it's four things like potholes.
Speaker 1: But I cannot help but notice that the Lord Mayor
Speaker 1: is presiding over a council that is very similar to
Speaker 1: many other councils around Australia, where they say they're doing
Speaker 1: it tough, but there's something on their own website which
Speaker 1: might explain how they're losing their money. This is the mayor.
Speaker 1: For the last few years. We've had a finely balanced budget,
Speaker 1: but the gap between the high cost of building and
Speaker 1: delivering services is outstripping the income from rates. We've found
Speaker 1: millions in savings year on year, and we continue to
Speaker 1: look to save costs wherever we can, but it's not enough. Well,
Speaker 1: I would suggest that the counselor, the Mayor and everyone
Speaker 1: else on the council just has to look at their
Speaker 1: own website. There are so many jobs available in local government,
Speaker 1: and many of them do good old fashioned hard work.
Speaker 1: But have a look at the amount of money to
Speaker 1: work for a local council, not across all of Sydney,
Speaker 1: not across all of New Soid Well, it's not across
Speaker 1: the country, but in and around one peninsula. Look at
Speaker 1: some of the jobs they have. Now, I don't know
Speaker 1: what an application analyst is, but they're going to pay
Speaker 1: you up to one hundred and fourteen thousand dollars. Surely
Speaker 1: there is some sort of either unified system that works
Speaker 1: in all other councils. But the idea that you're going
Speaker 1: to get one hundred and fourteen thousand dollars to be
Speaker 1: the application analyst in the council that wants to put
Speaker 1: up your rates by forty percent the library operations officer. Now,
Speaker 1: librarians are important, libraries are important, but how do they
Speaker 1: get paid ninety thousand dollars? Think about what a nurse
Speaker 1: or a police officer and aged care nurse to work
Speaker 1: in a library in the Northern Beaches council ninety thousand dollars?
Speaker 1: And then what about this to be a a spin
Speaker 1: doctor for the council. You are not fixing a single pothole.
Speaker 1: You are not handing out any toys to kids ninety
Speaker 1: six thousand dollars. Now, I know that this does not
Speaker 1: automatically put all of the money back in the budget,
Speaker 1: but goodness me, when you are trying to tell the
Speaker 1: residents we have to put up your rates by forty
Speaker 1: percent to advertise at the very same time a spin
Speaker 1: doctor for the best part of one hundred thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: to me would suggest the priorities just a little skewiff
Speaker 1: to use the old term. Now, I hope you're a
Speaker 1: Simpsons fan. If not, you've probably got one in your family.
Speaker 1: And I always love a little Simpsons reference. Remember that
Speaker 1: episode when Homer Simpson and a bunch of other people
Speaker 1: who had sort of outstanding bills or warrants with the
Speaker 1: Springfield Police Department were sent to note saying you are
Speaker 1: going to win a speedboat. All you have to do
Speaker 1: is turn up at the police station, of which many
Speaker 1: of the people, including Homer, do so to claim their prize.
Speaker 1: But of course it ends up just being a ruse
Speaker 1: to arrest them for the thing that they needed to
Speaker 1: be arrested for in the past. That said Homer of
Speaker 1: course turns around says after signing the confession there now
Speaker 1: could I police add my motor boat. Well, an example
Speaker 1: of this may will have actually played out in New
Speaker 1: South Wales. It's out of a crime in Wagga involving drugs.
Speaker 1: So was Police today said they are searching for the
Speaker 1: missing for the owner of a missing one million dollars.
Speaker 1: The one million dollars was apparently found in the vehicle
Speaker 1: of the person whom it was arrested for the drug situation.
Speaker 1: But police would like to know is anyone missing a
Speaker 1: million dollars? Could you police come forward and claim your bunny.
Speaker 1: If there's no claim within sixty days, it'll get forfeited.
Speaker 1: If there's a claim, obviously we'll go through the processes
Speaker 1: assessing that, says the Assistant Police Commissioner. But if nobody
Speaker 1: comes forward to claim that money, then it will ultimately
Speaker 1: be forfeited to the state of New South Wales. I've
Speaker 1: got a feeling no one's going to claim the money
Speaker 1: and hopefully it goes to the pcycs around that local area.
Speaker 1: Anyone missing him million dollars? If anyone looks particularly frustrated
Speaker 1: and he is looking a little lighter in the wallet,
Speaker 1: that might be the person Mori sec here, no sooks,
Speaker 1: no lefties, and looking forward to talking to Nicole Flint
Speaker 1: about her battle to herb to get her bid to
Speaker 1: get boothbe to change its mind and for the country
Speaker 1: to change its government. Thanks for watching this Monday night
Speaker 1: here on Paul Murray life as always carry out a
Speaker 1: champ on a Monday night. Is the great man of
Speaker 1: common sense, that is the LNP senator from Queensland. Our
Speaker 1: mate always got a good message behind him, Senator Matt Canavan,
Speaker 1: lovely to see you, sir. Need zero equals high energy bills. Correct.
Speaker 1: Freil Leitch does her great work at the Means's Research
Speaker 1: Center and so often here it's guy news and very
Speaker 1: pleased to have you both here. So Matt, let's get
Speaker 1: to the Prime Minister. Oh, we've done everything we can, really,
Speaker 1: I repeat, sixty three percent of a bottle of Bundanes
Speaker 1: tax okay, how much on petrol? How much on everything else?
Speaker 1: The interest rate rises that happened as a result of
Speaker 1: their decisions, and the Intergenerational Report tells us that the
Speaker 1: federal budget is going to be in deficit for the
Speaker 1: next forty years. Does anyone fall for this garbage? You
Speaker 1: apart from the people at taxpayer funded media who just
Speaker 1: want to change the subject to Lord Musk.
Speaker 4: Lord Musk, well, you have to question now, Paul, why
Speaker 4: the Prime Minister is standing for reelection. If he's done
Speaker 4: all he can, why is he trying to have another
Speaker 4: crack here? I mean, he's effectively washing his hands now
Speaker 4: of the Australian economy saying there's nothing much more I
Speaker 4: can do. My work here is done. Good luck Australia.
Speaker 4: That's the message that the Prime Minister is sending to
Speaker 4: the rest of us. It's unbelievable. We've got an election.
Speaker 4: I have to have an election within the next four
Speaker 4: months and the Prime Minister has zero economic agenda. Now
Speaker 4: he's just admitted he's done all he can. He's nothing
Speaker 4: more he can do. Even though we still have some
Speaker 4: of the highest inflation rate in the world, we have
Speaker 4: the highest in interest rates in the developed world. And
Speaker 4: this governments has been increasing public spending like it's going
Speaker 4: out of fashion. Their first two budgets. We're the biggest
Speaker 4: spending in terms of new policy decisions outside of the
Speaker 4: COVID years since the days of Kevin Rutt, and as
Speaker 4: I often say, at least Kevin Rutt had a global
Speaker 4: financial crisis to respond to.
Speaker 1: We had an excuse.
Speaker 4: This government had no alibi for their wasteful government spending.
Speaker 4: They are, in fact, instead trying to get rid of inflation.
Speaker 4: They should have been trying to control inflation. They're spending
Speaker 4: just fuel inflation, and so may while the prim is
Speaker 4: to say my work here is done, while the rest
Speaker 4: of us have had a massive drop in our standard
Speaker 4: living under his leadership.
Speaker 1: Freya, That's the point, right, is that people, I mean
Speaker 1: people are not going to be able to be convinced
Speaker 1: that their own circumstances are better than they actually are.
Speaker 1: But certainly I don't want a scenario and we'll get
Speaker 1: into this in a second where the people who would
Speaker 1: like to vote for change of government think, oh, all
Speaker 1: the case has been made. It's been made because they're
Speaker 1: watching shows like this, reading the reports that you put
Speaker 1: out there, but them turning around and you can cannot
Speaker 1: show you what Jim Chalmers said today. Jim Chalmers is
Speaker 1: out there pretending that again after promising to make everything better,
Speaker 1: but everything got worse, he's now saying that if you
Speaker 1: vote for the Coalition, you're going to be seven thousand
Speaker 1: dollars worse off. How does he get to that number, Well,
Speaker 1: he's part of his garbage.
Speaker 5: Australians would be thousands of dollars worse off if Peter
Speaker 5: Dutton had his way, and they will be worse off
Speaker 5: still if he wins the next election. Because of the
Speaker 5: position that Peter Dutton has taken on tax cuts and
Speaker 5: energy bill relief and on wages, we know that Australians
Speaker 5: would be thousands of dollars worse off if he had
Speaker 5: his way.
Speaker 6: Please, that is absolutely ridiculous. I mean, when they broke
Speaker 6: their promise that they made on ninety two occasions to
Speaker 6: slash household energy bills by two hundred and seventy five dollars,
Speaker 6: I think they killed any shred of credibility they have
Speaker 6: on this supposed economic modeling, And when you look at
Speaker 6: the sum just that went into it, it's even more ridiculous.
Speaker 6: So they just need to stop with the fake modeling,
Speaker 6: like I think they If they just stopped with that,
Speaker 6: I think that would be better. But then also maybe
Speaker 6: Albo could just stop with the economic agenda because a
Speaker 6: lot of the inflation that we're seeing is a result
Speaker 6: of the extra three hundred and forty seven billion dollars,
Speaker 6: and you compound that with this push towards renewables, and
Speaker 6: now you've got extra government spending plus higher energy prices
Speaker 6: that filter through the entire economy and have flow on
Speaker 6: impacts everywhere, and that is what is causing our cost
Speaker 6: of living crisis. So I actually say it's probably a
Speaker 6: good thing Albo has given up trying to solve this
Speaker 6: issue because he created it in the first place, and
Speaker 6: maybe if he just stopped trying to be prime minister,
Speaker 6: we would have a much better country.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, look again, it's up to people to
Speaker 1: make the argument, not just for us to know it
Speaker 1: and spread the information, but I mean the idea that
Speaker 1: this tactic Matt, that they're going to turn around and say, oh,
Speaker 1: everything's going to be worse under done. It's been worse
Speaker 1: under them. I mean, people can't be gas lid to
Speaker 1: that level, can they.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think people put much weight to in
Speaker 4: economic modeling because they're more savvy than that. I am
Speaker 4: an economist. I've done economic modeling, and the old joke
Speaker 4: is true that if you ask an economist how much
Speaker 4: two plus two equals, he'll tell you, well, how much
Speaker 4: would you like it too equal, And that's clearly what
Speaker 4: happened here. They started with their answer and worked backwards.
Speaker 4: In fact, when you look at detail, you look, you've
Speaker 4: got to look at the detail of economic modeling. The
Speaker 4: assumptions are so important. The seven thousand dollars you mentioned,
Speaker 4: almost all of that, get this. Almost all of that
Speaker 4: seven thousand dollars is the Stage three tax cuts that
Speaker 4: the Liberal Party put in the budget. Liberal National Party
Speaker 4: put in the budget. That's their economic agenda. Now they
Speaker 4: changed it slightly, they changed those tax cuts slightly, but
Speaker 4: that money in the budget, the money was put aside
Speaker 4: by the former LMP government and now they're trying to
Speaker 4: claim credit for that, and it's about the full extent
Speaker 4: of their economic agenda. So it's absolutely absurd. And of
Speaker 4: course people is the Treasurer trying to say people feel
Speaker 4: seven thousand dollars better off under this government, because the
Speaker 4: other thing he says there is he reckons that the
Speaker 4: wage growth would be as low as it was under
Speaker 4: the Morrison government, not the slightly higher it's been under
Speaker 4: this government. But of course the wages have been growth
Speaker 4: has been high because inflation has been higher, and people
Speaker 4: have still gone backwards because that inflation is not factored
Speaker 4: into this modeling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, let's talk about Trump because the winning just
Speaker 1: kept going over the weekend. The Secretary of Defense has
Speaker 1: gone from beleagued nominee to sworn in. Couple three senator's
Speaker 1: voted against it. Surprise surprise. Mitch McConnell is the former
Speaker 1: Senate leader's going to start trying to do Trump dirty.
Speaker 1: Wasn't able to happen. Columbia people who were illegal immigrants
Speaker 1: who have been charged with crimes in the United States.
Speaker 1: They were to be deported. The Columbian president blows up,
Speaker 1: we will not take the flight. Well, after a couple
Speaker 1: of phone calls and not even halfway through a round
Speaker 1: of golf that got flipped back the other way Freyer
Speaker 1: surprise surprise. But he's often a good start.
Speaker 6: It's so good. I mean America. It's felt like America
Speaker 6: has been asleep for the last four years, missing in action.
Speaker 6: Where have they gone? But now with Trump back at
Speaker 6: the helm, at the lead as the leader of the
Speaker 6: free world, they are so back and it is so
Speaker 6: good to see. It's like every single day I'm struggling
Speaker 6: to keep up with the amount of wins that Trump
Speaker 6: is making. I'm having to watch Sky every night to
Speaker 6: just keep up with all the news because it is
Speaker 6: it is so much every day he's doing something else.
Speaker 6: And so I think Columbia is right to back down.
Speaker 6: And I think anyone that tries to stand up to
Speaker 6: America and go against Trump is going to get absolutely crushed.
Speaker 1: Matt. What I like as well is that I like
Speaker 1: decisive leadership. Right now, I don't agree with everything that's
Speaker 1: being said, and that all the rest of it. No
Speaker 1: one's pretending that right. You want someone perfect in politics,
Speaker 1: run for it yourself. But the wins are clear, and
Speaker 1: in part they come from not just the decisions made
Speaker 1: in the transition team. They come from the values that
Speaker 1: were known in the first term but absolutely established over
Speaker 1: the last two years. And that's the message for everyone
Speaker 1: in one to change the government. You don't make an
Speaker 1: announcement four days before the election and wow, every one
Speaker 1: or four No, what are the values? What are the
Speaker 1: big ideas? And ram at home.
Speaker 4: Well, you're right, Paul, And obviously Donald Trump is not
Speaker 4: your typical politician. And one of the things that seemed
Speaker 4: to mark him out is he actually does what he says.
Speaker 4: A lot of people felt before twenty sixteen that they
Speaker 4: were he was not to be taken literally just seriously,
Speaker 4: but he is. He does do what he says, and
Speaker 4: that shocks a lot of people, but I think it's
Speaker 4: also refreshing for a lot. One of the best examples
Speaker 4: of the last week that I think that I've seen
Speaker 4: that you didn't mention earlier was his trip to LA
Speaker 4: where he had that roundtable and he just ran the
Speaker 4: cameras and exposed the inept leadership there and particularly the
Speaker 4: local concerns of people. Now he is president, but it's
Speaker 4: about time that the bully pulpit has made a return,
Speaker 4: that he can use that pulpit to basically just threaten
Speaker 4: and cajole and push some local political leaders who clearly
Speaker 4: weren't being responsible to their own local cons These are
Speaker 4: all went to sort of planning laws, and apparently now
Speaker 4: next Monday, LA residents are allowed back on their property
Speaker 4: surprise surprise, after Donald Trump went out there and embarrassed
Speaker 4: the LA leadership, but for some reason, they weren't letting
Speaker 4: property owners, homelowners go back into their own properties to
Speaker 4: clean things up.
Speaker 1: I had an idea to play that very exchange. But
Speaker 1: a last we are out of time because we had
Speaker 1: such a good discussion. Thank you Freyer, Thank you very much, Sanata.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you guys again next week after the break.
Speaker 1: If the bricks need to be removed to the current government,
Speaker 1: it needs to be done to seat by seed. One
Speaker 1: of the people trying to do that is Nicole Flint
Speaker 1: in the seat of Boothby in South Australia. She's one
Speaker 1: of our favorites. She's back in the fight and better
Speaker 1: than ever before. She joins us next from Adelaide. All right,
Speaker 1: the race to seventy six, what's going to happen. Plenty
Speaker 1: of things need to go right for the coalition and
Speaker 1: that means they need to win lots of seats and
Speaker 1: they need to have the best people trying to fight
Speaker 1: for those seats. One of them is the wonderful Nicole Flint.
Speaker 1: We've seen it plenty of times here on Sky News.
Speaker 1: But she's back in the fight right now, going back
Speaker 1: for the seat that she represented for multiple terms, of course,
Speaker 1: the seat of Boothby, and she joins us now, mate,
Speaker 1: love to see you. You're in the fight, you're fired up,
Speaker 1: You've never looked better, and you never look more energized.
Speaker 1: You look like you're you're ready for this one.
Speaker 7: I certainly am, Paul, because I am determined to save
Speaker 7: my community and do my part to save the Australian
Speaker 7: people from Anthony Albanezi and his incompetent government. It really
Speaker 7: is that simple. I have never ever seen my community,
Speaker 7: my local residents, my small businesses in so much economic
Speaker 7: pain and it's just unacceptable.
Speaker 1: How do you think people in your part of South
Speaker 1: Australia are going to react when the Prime Minister says,
Speaker 1: as he did in a rally last year, the worst
Speaker 1: of it's behind us today. We've done everything we can
Speaker 1: when it comes to interest rates. How do you reckon
Speaker 1: it goes down in the real world.
Speaker 7: It doesn't go down, Paul. And I'm just going to
Speaker 7: share with you through three three examples of how everyone
Speaker 7: in my community is hurting, and they're hurting in different ways.
Speaker 7: But one of the earliest phone calls I got when
Speaker 7: I became when I was announced as the candidate again,
Speaker 7: was from a lady Maria, Lovely, lovely lady. She's in
Speaker 7: her eighties, so it's her husband and she was in
Speaker 7: tears saying to me, Nicole, I don't know how I'm
Speaker 7: going to pay my power bill. She just bought an
Speaker 7: electric chair and an electric bed for her health reasons,
Speaker 7: and she said, we live a very simple life. We
Speaker 7: are so careful with our money. The next decision I'm
Speaker 7: going to have to make is whether we whether we
Speaker 7: cut our health insurance or not, because I don't think
Speaker 7: we can pay our power bill and we don't know
Speaker 7: how to make ends meet. The second example is one
Speaker 7: of my wonderful small businesses. It's a cafe. Ryan's run
Speaker 7: it for a couple of years, survived COVID, but was
Speaker 7: saying to me, you know, mid last year, I don't
Speaker 7: know if I'll make it to the end of the
Speaker 7: year because rent costs, insurance, power costs, and food input
Speaker 7: costs have just gone through the roof and again. And
Speaker 7: of course his customers aren't spending like they used to
Speaker 7: because they don't have the money. And then just last week, Paul,
Speaker 7: I've been doing a lot of door knocking. I door
Speaker 7: knocked six hundred and twenty five homes in some pretty
Speaker 7: aggressive Adelaide heat last week. But that does not stop
Speaker 7: me because, as you remarked, I've never been in better
Speaker 7: shape and better health. But I door knocked a young
Speaker 7: couple who've got kids who are in high school, and
Speaker 7: it's in a really nice suburb, a lovely house in
Speaker 7: a nice suburb. But you know, they're not living in
Speaker 7: a mansion. They've got a lovely home. They said, they're
Speaker 7: both frontline public sector workers. So they said to me,
Speaker 7: we look at real estate dot Com every single day
Speaker 7: because we are probably going to have to sell our
Speaker 7: house if we want to keep our kids in private
Speaker 7: school and give them the best education we can. So
Speaker 7: they are the real world decisions that my local residents
Speaker 7: have being forced to make an up being forced to
Speaker 7: make because of the ubernezy labor government. This is very real,
Speaker 7: and people are hurting, and labor are incapable of turning
Speaker 7: their economic mess around.
Speaker 1: And I think this is where, you know, the professional
Speaker 1: political class they're going to say, oh, look, you know,
Speaker 1: if we focus on Peter Dutton, if we do some
Speaker 1: ads of him in black and white with some all
Speaker 1: good book of music and we say cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts,
Speaker 1: that everyone's going to think, oh, you know, their medicare
Speaker 1: is going to be taken away from the I think
Speaker 1: that people are far more sophisticated than that stuff. And
Speaker 1: I think that certainly the vibe is much different, and
Speaker 1: they're resistant to it. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: this bloke promised to make it better. Every indicy, it's worse.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter if the Reserve Bank fingers crossed
Speaker 1: for that couple you're talking about, for my own life
Speaker 1: and for everyone else watching right, hopefully, Yeah, interest rates
Speaker 1: do come down, but they went up twelve times on
Speaker 1: their watch. They decided to increase taxation on petrol. They
Speaker 1: decided to increase taxation on and I keep talking about it.
Speaker 1: This bottle of Bundy rum. Sixty three percent of it
Speaker 1: is tax all right. I want people when they go
Speaker 1: to the bottolow to not just see the options, but
Speaker 1: to see tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax. When
Speaker 1: you go to the servo, tax, tax, tax, tax, axtion,
Speaker 1: it's all there. And it's not that the money is
Speaker 1: being turned around and spent on things that are going
Speaker 1: to improve people's lives. Instead, it's billions of dollars to
Speaker 1: make sure that old people will vote labor before they
Speaker 1: preference the Greens on things like student debt. They decided
Speaker 1: in their priorities that in one of their first actions
Speaker 1: as a government to remove the low and middle income
Speaker 1: tax offset, which was the guaranteed fifteen hundred dollars tax
Speaker 1: return to every one. There was ten million people who
Speaker 1: lost that money. These people might well claim that they
Speaker 1: are of the people, but they couldn't be more disconnected,
Speaker 1: and it comes down to their own lived experience. Every
Speaker 1: MP has got not one with three pay rises since
Speaker 1: the last election, including the biggest in a decade.
Speaker 7: It's just an extraordinary poll. And just on taxes. We
Speaker 7: had a fantastic announcement last week that will do more
Speaker 7: to help my struggling cafes, restaurants and pubs. And they
Speaker 7: are the businesses that have felt this economic crisis the
Speaker 7: most because they are businesses that are pretty early on
Speaker 7: when people look at what their discretionary spending is, they say, nope,
Speaker 7: we're just actually not going to go out and have
Speaker 7: coffee in the morning. We're not going to go out
Speaker 7: and have brunch, we won't go out for lunch or dinner.
Speaker 7: That's one of the first things people start cutting. So
Speaker 7: we announced the twenty thousand dollars up to twenty thousand
Speaker 7: dollar tax right off for small businesses with a turnover
Speaker 7: under ten million dollars and that, so that to get
Speaker 7: them into our cafes, restaurants and our pubs so they
Speaker 7: can take their stuff out to say thank you for
Speaker 7: the hard work you're doing, so they take their clients
Speaker 7: out for a meal. Because at the moment, if small
Speaker 7: businesses do that, they have to pay fringe benefits tax,
Speaker 7: and it's not a tax right off. So we've done
Speaker 7: something directly addressing one of the problem in the tax
Speaker 7: system because big businesses, big corporates who have their own
Speaker 7: boardrooms or in house catering don't have to pay FBT,
Speaker 7: so it's just hurting small businesses. But labor came out
Speaker 7: and attacked it and Jason Clair and others Murray Whatt
Speaker 7: saying that this was to help the big end of town.
Speaker 7: The big end of town has a turnover well over
Speaker 7: ten million dollars. This is firmly focused at helping our
Speaker 7: cafes and our restaurants and our pubs and also helping
Speaker 7: small businesses out in the community. Whether your trade is
Speaker 7: rewarding your staff, whether you're the local accountant wanting to
Speaker 7: bring your stuff in or or your clients in to
Speaker 7: have a breakfast meeting or a coffee, whatever it is,
Speaker 7: we are doing practical things that will make practical differences
Speaker 7: to small businesses, operations, but also to the lives of
Speaker 7: all of my local residents who, as I've explained, cannot
Speaker 7: make ends meet and are looking at having to make
Speaker 7: decisions that they absolutely don't want to make and they
Speaker 7: shouldn't have to make. Paul and Australians were not having
Speaker 7: to say do I keep paying my private health insurance
Speaker 7: or turn.
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Speaker 7: Or do I sell my house or put my kids
Speaker 7: through private school? They were not having They were not forced.
Speaker 7: Australians were not forced to make these decisions when we
Speaker 7: were in government.
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