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Speaker 1: Do you want me to bring it in?

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Speaker 2: You bring it in? Man, I'm I'm running.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's just let's just keep this freestyle. We'll keep

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Speaker 1: Should we keep all of that in?

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Speaker 2: We should all of that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll delete all of it. Aaron Woods, welcome into

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Speaker 1: the studio today. Another member of the retirees club. Yes,

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Speaker 1: who was joining me in retirement?

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Speaker 2: Okay, before we start, Every single time someone sits in

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Speaker 2: that chair, they've got a story of an eye out

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Speaker 2: with Cooper. Have you got anything? Have you blokes locked

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Speaker 2: horns anywhere in Vegas?

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Speaker 1: Teammates teammates Yeah, yeah, yeah, but ex teammates Vegas.

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Speaker 3: He went home early.

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Speaker 4: Actually, she actually come to our last game, drink ups

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Speaker 4: to it. It was recently, yeah, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was at the Harvard Hilton. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know what worst thing was about it, Mattie, Like,

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Speaker 4: I got there a little bit late, had to go home.

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Speaker 4: It's a fair trek from where I live, I mean

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Speaker 4: the George area, And as I come in, they had

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Speaker 4: rispands for our certain section, so it was all free

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Speaker 4: piece for all of us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't get one. I'll turn around, look at the

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Speaker 4: little matey he guess. Yeah, mane, I'll get you a beer, mate,

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Speaker 4: I'm doing the boys. Mate come under eventually gets into

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Speaker 4: every joint. We were actually locker room buddies. Yeah, we

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Speaker 4: were next to each other. We had some updates and

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Speaker 4: we had some down days in we we.

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Speaker 1: Had a lot of down days, Samine Woodsy last year,

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Speaker 1: lots of down there, lots of.

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Speaker 2: It's God look yes, yeah you've got personality or good looks.

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Speaker 1: God doesn't give you. Okay. Yeah. We were often scapegoaded

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Speaker 1: for the team's losses because we were such an integral

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Speaker 4: We were more the team, and I think we were.

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Speaker 1: We were probably the only two blokes that had know

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Speaker 1: and the whole joint exactly the thing.

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Speaker 2: But is they say the sport is ninety five percent mental,

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Speaker 2: five percent physical, and you provided the entertainment and light

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Speaker 2: lighting things up. That's a vital part.

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Speaker 1: Of the time.

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Speaker 4: We had a good time at it. Oh that we did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you what and I will say what

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Speaker 1: an excellent year it was in terms of we had

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun playing Reserve Go that year too.

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Speaker 1: We did Blacktown out of black We would have thought

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Speaker 1: it would have been a tough drive drive him from

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Speaker 4: So it was a long drive, a whole lot of

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Speaker 4: my career. Knowing that you watched the boys play on

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Speaker 4: a Friday SAT that night, I had a few beers

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Speaker 4: after the game and then yeah, boys, you got back

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Seeds we played, we played a nunder played head in

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Speaker 2: a reserve grade. We had a really young reserve grade.

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Speaker 2: So we played a semi final against Panis. We knocked

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Speaker 2: him over. So we're staying in Sydney that night and

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Speaker 2: to go. It's the first grade, first grade, the night's

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Speaker 2: first ever finals appearance in the history of the club

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Speaker 2: ninety one or something of that. Anyway, So we finished

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Speaker 2: and boys like, yeah, we're going to hit the town

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Speaker 2: I'm literally on the reserve grade bars. We're about to

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Speaker 2: go back to the hotel, I said the first grade coach,

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Speaker 2: and I'll try and look the other way, and they go, Maddie,

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Speaker 2: you've got to sell on the bench for the So

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Speaker 2: the boys contacted me going at this part and that

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Speaker 2: I said, yeah, sweet. So my roommates Sammy Stewart, he

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Speaker 2: fell asleep and I went right out on the town

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Speaker 2: for me, said, and I said, it's over cut from

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Speaker 2: do you know what, David. You know it's a big

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Speaker 2: semi final. If we sack Matthew now, it's going to

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Speaker 2: It's a semi final. You've got to stay of execution.

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Speaker 2: But at full time you've got to get up in

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Speaker 2: We went eighteen two, and I'm sitting there like, and

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Speaker 2: He looks over and goes so everyone said. I was like, so, guys,

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Speaker 2: can I just have a minute And they're like, yeah, yes, Chimby,

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Speaker 2: what's going on? Boys? I snuck out last night and

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Speaker 2: I was at a night out and I was drinking

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Speaker 2: and I just feel like I've let this down. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: And they went good on you, mate.

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Speaker 1: Who that is all the time? Yeah, they coaches really

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Speaker 1: being publicly shamed by the boys. Ninety percent of the time,

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Speaker 4: I think they're more disappointed that you didn't invite us

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Speaker 4: to have a big Yeah, come on, man, yeah we're

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Speaker 1: Back on retirement. How hard is the decision? Would see?

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Speaker 1: How hard has it been? Because those people that know

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I love it. But obviously I think this

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Speaker 3: So he's looking pretty good.

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Speaker 4: He did age, he looked really good, and he did honestly, mate,

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Speaker 4: when I did play, I hear a lot of people

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Speaker 4: I think I hear Maddie talk about a lot. If

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Speaker 4: you don't get nervous before games, you sort of know

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Speaker 4: I don't want to to make a tackle, and then

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Speaker 4: was like, when I tackle him, I said, listen, mate,

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Speaker 4: I said, there's five defenders.

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Speaker 1: Here, there's four attackers.

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Speaker 3: You should be going to the open out numbers.

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Speaker 1: You're helping helping him out.

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Speaker 4: At the end of the game, I go to the missus,

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Speaker 4: I said, I'm done. Look, I was trying to not

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Speaker 4: not that I was trying to avoid tackles, but you're

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Speaker 3: It's probably not as bad about that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, people get there and they go a very

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Speaker 2: People often say that when I was playing, does it hurt?

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Speaker 2: and then you're drenalized. Honestly, you could you could run

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Speaker 4: What about when you sort of it and then you're

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Speaker 4: I need my second window kick in here, and it's

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Speaker 4: like you come out of that last game we played

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Speaker 4: against the Bulldogs, and yeah I did. Set was watching

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Speaker 4: last ten minute. You want to go back on, I say, now, literally,

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Speaker 4: um works, enjoy it, mate, I don't. I don't really

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Speaker 2: Cast an eye on.

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Speaker 1: Let's get these young boys out there.

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Speaker 2: But with the game even I can remember all that

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Speaker 2: For whatever reason, some days you get out there and

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Speaker 2: it'd be like every sport. Remember we had Dave Warner

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Speaker 1: But it is funny like that. Some days even the

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Speaker 1: Like you're running at someone with a and you're getting wind.

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Speaker 1: What is going on?

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Speaker 4: And when you're in reserve grade, you got to warm

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Speaker 4: just like, what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Boys?

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Speaker 4: I was looking at bad Parker going, mate, we can't

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Speaker 4: the days, he could move with his knees, so have

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Speaker 4: you seen him warm up before? So we'd have to

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Speaker 3: You know the new brands.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so we'll be doing like forty five minutes

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Speaker 4: of wrestle. Here here's Hank Scorpio running down the sideline

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Speaker 4: trying to get the knees gone, I'm warming them up.

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Speaker 1: Wow, poor bloke his knees of that bustard.

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Speaker 4: So I used to away say when I'm feeling bad,

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Speaker 4: doing I'm doing all right, I'm doing all right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah right? How do you reckon? Here to go the

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Speaker 1: next twelve months? Woulds he with retirement because a lot

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Speaker 1: of people struggle postal tirement. How do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: They have a win.

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Speaker 4: One of my favorite part was when you come in

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Speaker 3: You got for me?

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Speaker 3: Where's the stories?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? You go the single blokes, you know what happened

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Speaker 3: I had to do a lot of things and I

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Speaker 1: Stayed away.

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Speaker 4: But honestly it was we had a couple of big

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Speaker 3: I was with Billy Walters.

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Speaker 1: He is a good good man. Yes, Billy Walter's good man.

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Speaker 1: He's a little bit different.

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Speaker 2: It's quite reserved.

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Speaker 4: Like we'd be sitting there and like having a good

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Speaker 1: Bill, Oh really yeah, that's not like him. Man, he's

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Speaker 2: Remember the time he was here, let's not say what that.

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Speaker 1: He was much Yeah, and at this stage Billy showed

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Speaker 1: pretty heavy intoxicated. When Billy got here, he was dead

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Speaker 4: Yeah, seriously, he's a good is good value.

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Speaker 1: We also had Spencer Lendu and Kempbell Graham Graham Big stretch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but one thing was so we were there for

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Speaker 4: So they said to us, they said, look, do you

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Speaker 4: the sort of like your equivalent of the NFL Footy

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Speaker 4: Show over there. Oh right, okay, So we did some

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. I remember seeing the video of you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so they sort of give us the heads up

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Speaker 4: done that in a Brisbane jersey that you didn't think, mate?

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Speaker 1: What was he like? Nice champion?

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Speaker 4: So they were only supposed to give us six minutes.

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Speaker 4: Were there for probably twenty two minutes? Oh well yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well but were they asking a lot of questions about

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Speaker 4: That interested a lot of questions just talking about it,

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Speaker 3: And yeah, they're actually.

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Speaker 4: Excited about it, and they're going, man, you guys are

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at it like he's a monster gronk mate,

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Speaker 4: I don't know their names. I don't know the NFL

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Speaker 4: too well, but speaking to my mates back it seemed

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Speaker 4: all pretty like you know, including the conversation and asking

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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool because we I suppose us in Australia

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Speaker 2: What it the big one?

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Speaker 1: Like this?

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Speaker 2: Is this really slipped under the radar. There's a young

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Speaker 1: Is he the tight end?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the NFL reached out and went mad. There's a

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Speaker 4: I think he he goes out with angry dad's daughter.

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Speaker 1: No, no different bloke, different boat. You're thinking of a

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Speaker 4: He's a monster too.

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Speaker 1: He's a big fellow. Yeah up in the Goldie another

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Speaker 3: He got picked up in that recent one as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But this fella is he's he's this guy who's just

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Speaker 2: What was his name, Jonathan Russell.

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Speaker 1: He's a legie.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's allge So what happened? They spotted him,

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Speaker 2: They saw him, they saw him on tape and then

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Speaker 2: Because this is the thing with Jordan Mallarda having success.

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Speaker 2: That's been gone on for a while. But for Jordan

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Speaker 2: the Rugular League, going, mate, this is very close to

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Speaker 4: What about how much money Jordan Mlada is on mate?

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Speaker 1: Ridiculous, It's incredible, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: And he's an absolute superstar over there too, mate, and

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Speaker 4: he was only really.

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Speaker 3: Playing twenties in reserve grade.

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Speaker 2: Here you see something the other day they spotted it.

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Speaker 2: They spotted it at one of the NFL shows. And went,

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Speaker 2: what's what's the Jordan maularda And we can all we

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Speaker 2: obviously a superstition. It must have been at Philadelphia and

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Speaker 3: I've played with bow Ryan.

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Speaker 4: I have unbelievable really, Like if you touch something, he's

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Speaker 4: he'd have to walk around all these other certain ways.

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Speaker 4: He couldn't walk a normal way. Why, he's just a

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Speaker 4: weird superstitious like funny weird man, real funny weird.

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Speaker 1: That's so bizarre.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So if you watched him when he played, he

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Speaker 4: always had to touch a corner post every time with

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Speaker 2: Shaman didn't touch attacking players when he was defended.

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Speaker 1: Yet, all right, Aaron, take us back to a young

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Speaker 1: Aaron Woods. Where'd you grow up? It's quite large too.

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 2: I love some of the baby the baby photos. He

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Speaker 4: Mate, that's so I grew up in like Art. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I played for like our juniors. It was it wasn't

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Speaker 4: you ever been to the Bay run down there? Yes,

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Speaker 4: it's that oval that's.

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Speaker 1: Right on they like that kind of bridge.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right next to the bridge. That's where I played

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Speaker 4: so I played all that one club. I went to

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Speaker 4: College at Ride.

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Speaker 1: A lot of great athletes out of there.

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Speaker 2: Sirenons, Yes, Sirens, Mitchtt, Gail.

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Speaker 3: Chris Anderson, Hopes was yeah. I think he did year

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Speaker 2: They knocked us out both years. His brothers Maitland, they

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Speaker 2: knocked us ow both years in the semi finals. Okay,

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Speaker 2: in the old Comwell's Bank Cup.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, clearly still heard about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, still does. The second year they beat it. The

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Speaker 2: second year we had a six turn old draw and

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Speaker 3: Did they have any first graders.

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Speaker 2: One bloke yeah, Jamie Shephard yeah, and his brother yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't play against you much. I didn't play

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Speaker 1: Sorry, piece of shit. Did you always want to play footy? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I did actually, But you know what I tell everyone

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Speaker 4: in this story, You know when you knew six and

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Speaker 4: you do like where you're going to be in ten

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Speaker 4: years from now whatever? It was on my thing. My

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Speaker 4: playing first grade footy for Northern Eagles because it was

441
00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,439
Speaker 4: when that was Northern Eagles at that period of time.

442
00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:37,879
Speaker 4: I was a mad mainly supported growing up.

443
00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,399
Speaker 1: We've got a manly tattoo, Yeah I do.

444
00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:40,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, where is that?

445
00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,440
Speaker 1: It's on my foot? Down on your foot? Yeah, yeah,

446
00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,560
Speaker 1: I remember. It was an idiot. The first day he signed,

447
00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,360
Speaker 1: he was he was telling everyone, right.

448
00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,240
Speaker 4: I'm amediately fan look at this when I was that

449
00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,120
Speaker 4: pumped man because it was the first time I got

450
00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,159
Speaker 4: given gear of men I didn't have to pay for,

451
00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,880
Speaker 4: so I'm so happy. Like this blog broke my heart

452
00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,240
Speaker 4: in ninety seven. But other than that, mate, Like honestly,

453
00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:00,960
Speaker 4: like when I got the hall and to know that

454
00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,480
Speaker 4: I was coming to play for Mely, it was like.

455
00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,760
Speaker 2: Wow, woods it I cannot tell you how many people

456
00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,520
Speaker 2: have sat in there in that chair, almost all of them.

457
00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,359
Speaker 2: Day Bird against the Melbourne Storm and your debut, I

458
00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,720
Speaker 2: believe was against the Melbourne Storm when you went to Manly.

459
00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,399
Speaker 4: Yes it was, Yes, it was. It was a Friday

460
00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,760
Speaker 4: night game. You play that one.

461
00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for remembering win. Yeah we won, mate, it

462
00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,120
Speaker 1: was a great win. That was when put that massive hit.

463
00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,520
Speaker 2: On Justin Justinen.

464
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,200
Speaker 4: That's one of the best thiings I've ever seen life.

465
00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,480
Speaker 1: Remember you scored a try. That's a great There's a

466
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,600
Speaker 1: great picture of me in Woodsy. Woodsy scores on his

467
00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,880
Speaker 1: David and me and him celebrat. But he got taken back,

468
00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,800
Speaker 1: not in scores. Nude run that year could have got

469
00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:50,600
Speaker 1: off for me first. That's but let's the nude runs.

470
00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,119
Speaker 1: Not many teams do them anymore? Do that They don't

471
00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:54,960
Speaker 1: really disappointing many, Yeah.

472
00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:55,600
Speaker 2: That is disappointed.

473
00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,720
Speaker 1: There's no real there's no real punishment for a new run.

474
00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,320
Speaker 1: Like everybody always says, oh the neud you're on the

475
00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,280
Speaker 1: new run and then you get to the point where

476
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:03,960
Speaker 1: everyone's thinking there's going to be a new toy run

477
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,800
Speaker 1: and no one sensitive times.

478
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,639
Speaker 4: I made it, I made we got it done at

479
00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,159
Speaker 4: Mainly it was at a little bar underneath yeah yeah,

480
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,160
Speaker 4: what was it called the boat Shed boat Shed?

481
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:12,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

482
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 4: They mainly do their mad Monday as well. Yeah, do

483
00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,080
Speaker 4: that very well, very well.

484
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,680
Speaker 2: That's a great, great joint, the boatshed Gate. Live music

485
00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:19,520
Speaker 2: down there it is.

486
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:20,639
Speaker 1: You stick to the floor too.

487
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,840
Speaker 4: If they remind you of the Bridge at Roselle, you've

488
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 4: been the Bridge Hotel at Roosevelt, very similar, old like

489
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 4: a bit of a dingy dive your feet, stick to

490
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:29,520
Speaker 4: the floor.

491
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:30,639
Speaker 3: Live bands.

492
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,560
Speaker 2: I was going to go there. The Rose played there

493
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,720
Speaker 2: in April. I got to get there more, you know,

494
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:35,359
Speaker 2: live music.

495
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,880
Speaker 4: I watched Glo there, but yeah, I love it, mate,

496
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 4: he is the Jerry Kraus.

497
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 3: He's unbelievable.

498
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

499
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 1: I saw they played at the Acras the other day, mate.

500
00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,160
Speaker 1: They were unbelievable. They because Dean Lewis and other big

501
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 1: artists like that were playing tea right now. Screaming Jets

502
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 1: were the best by far, Like everybody was up dancing

503
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:53,920
Speaker 1: for the Screaming Jets.

504
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,200
Speaker 3: They just know how to engage the crowd.

505
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got that real for years.

506
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he is a showman like he did drama

507
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 2: at high school. Yeah, he's very good. Glue He's brother,

508
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:11,679
Speaker 2: he's his older brother as a junior coach coach juniors

509
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 2: at the Knights YEP, and actually had this is this

510
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,679
Speaker 2: is bizarre, and I swear to god he had He

511
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 2: had a number one hit Glueso's older brother in Scandinavia

512
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 2: when he was when he was a young kid doing

513
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 2: a Christmas Carol. I went number one in Scandinavia and

514
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 2: then he goes and then Dave just stole my career.

515
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 2: I said, don't worry. I'm feeling it.

516
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 4: Isn't he one of the best because he's I love

517
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 4: the Screaming Jets and lucky enough to work at Triple

518
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 4: And we've actually got the interviewing once since that man.

519
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 4: I was shaking that nervous. Really Yeah, well he does.

520
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 1: I think he does the night show out of Adelaide. Yeah.

521
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great guy.

522
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 3: He is.

523
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 1: So when did the West Tigers come knocking there? Because

524
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 1: Junior playing it like art.

525
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 4: There they like and then you know, you come through

526
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 4: the hall and Matthews and sort of sg boar Rnks.

527
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 4: That's when I was at Samara's Cathedral and then I

528
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 4: think what the West Tigers do. They've got a couple

529
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 4: of schools they put players in. So for the baw

530
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 4: Main region it was holy Cross. For the Kembelltown region

531
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 4: it was Saint Gregg's and then with the with the

532
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 4: New Zealand Boys, they'd put him at Keeper Park up

533
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 4: at Gold Coast. So obviously been in the Bawmain area.

534
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 4: There's a few of us that went to holy Cross.

535
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 4: It was in my year. I was one of the

536
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 4: I was one of the first. They wanted to make

537
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 4: the school a bit more of a Rugy League school

538
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 4: again as Maddie said in the nineties that they were

539
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,360
Speaker 4: pretty strong. And then next thing you know, a couple

540
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 4: other boys went and that was when Syrin and well

541
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 4: Siro was already there. But then Mitchell and Luke they

542
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 4: end up going to the school, but they went there

543
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 4: from year seven, so that was sort of our first path.

544
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 4: And then I remember in year twelve at the start

545
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 4: of the year they Tigers sort of we sat us down,

546
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 4: what do you want to do? Because mainly actually were

547
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 4: close to sign it, so close to signing him mainly,

548
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 4: and then Sensy come to my house and was talking.

549
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 4: I ended up signing like a three year deal, but

550
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 4: the year was top twenty five. So it was great

551
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 4: because it was in year twelve. You know, HC's coming,

552
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 4: but I know I've got a three year deal. Didn't

553
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 4: really care about school and it was oh mate. I

554
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 4: didn't even have to do the trials because we were going.

555
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 4: I was the school boys. Oh wow, So we had

556
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 4: the time of our life.

557
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: In year twelve, he was in yours the school boys side.

558
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: I had William Hopwhadi, but he was only sixteen. Yeah,

559
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been far off playing first grade.

560
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 4: Then he played the next year, so I was a

561
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 4: young old seventeen. We had Jamal DRIs. So Jamal Ledris

562
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 4: literally played and then went and played first grade two

563
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 4: weeks after. And this was the one when Jordan Renkin was.

564
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 4: He played Game one with us and then played first

565
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 4: grade the next week.

566
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah he was seventeen.

567
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was seventeen or sixteen.

568
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 1: And because he's nearly is he the youngest ever? I think?

569
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think because you can't play the eighteen now. Yeah, yeah,

570
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 4: so he was. He was in that squad with us

571
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 4: Martin Taupowe.

572
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: Yep, he was their.

573
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 3: Body Cordner, he had strong side.

574
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

575
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: It was a fair your.

576
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 4: Halves, oh man, I can't remember.

577
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: Obviously they didn't do anything chilly. Oh yes.

578
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: Alberkelly.

579
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 4: Albert Kelly was like you know when you sort of

580
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 4: there's young Blakes, you played played with him. He's probably

581
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 4: out and now the best player I've ever played.

582
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 3: With in the junior footy.

583
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 2: Yeah right, he's.

584
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 4: By far like gifts, gifted skill set. He was on

585
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 4: another level. He was like nothing I've ever seen.

586
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I played against him when he went to the

587
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 1: Broncos and he was just so freaky. He moved so

588
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: well and he was quite he was old. I think

589
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: he was nearly like sort of thirty by the time

590
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: we played it.

591
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: Did very did well in England, left the Sharks. He

592
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: went a whole had had a really good impact there,

593
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: very very good.

594
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 3: He went a little bit too early, didn't he, Yeah,

595
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 3: he did.

596
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: It was a little bit like Bevan French. Oh man.

597
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 2: There's not that many great, really creative players here that

598
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: the Bevern French can't get a go. I'm really surprised

599
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 2: someone hasn't gone over there. He has. I think he

600
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 2: got man of the Match in the Grand Finals, just one.

601
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 2: He has been a phenomenon for Wigan. I tear you blake,

602
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 2: You're really champion your cause? Would he Every time I'd

603
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 2: see him, he'd mentioned was a block us two blockers.

604
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, real close.

605
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he'll always make champion your cause.

606
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 4: I loved the block because I was really close with

607
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 4: his his middle son Liam. Yeah, so we'd we'd hang

608
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 4: out of a bit and then we'd always go to

609
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 4: the block.

610
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 3: He's you're not block. He's like, mate.

611
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 4: He couldn't really pronounce most names, probably, but but no mate.

612
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 4: Like honestly, some of the stories you'd got his house,

613
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 4: like his wife Cath what a mate to put up

614
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 4: with him for.

615
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: That three boys.

616
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 4: Jesus, it was just a fun house that it was

617
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 4: like the halfway house.

618
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

619
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 4: So so Liam. When I was in eleven, he was

620
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 4: a holocaust in year twelve he come from Riverview. Ye,

621
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 4: and mate, jeez, what a funny dude he is. Mate, he's,

622
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 4: as I say, off the old block.

623
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: Literally. Your debut in twenty eleven off the bench against

624
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: the Bulldogs around one. It's a day after your twentieth

625
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: birthday as well. Lots of research going on this. But

626
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: some of the players in that dog side, Benny Barber,

627
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: Jamal Leedriis, Andrew Ryan.

628
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 4: Yep, what was the lie? It was pretty crazy. So

629
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 4: it was a Monday night. I didn't know I was

630
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 4: playing till the Sunday at Captain's run. So it was

631
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 4: Tim Sheen sort of just kept it quiet all week,

632
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 4: but a lot of the boys knew.

633
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: All the senior boys knew.

634
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 4: I think Bryce Gibbs was a bit of an injury

635
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 4: cloud and our last trial actually I think he landed

636
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 4: on a splinter, landed on a splinter a sprinkler, oh yeah,

637
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 4: and he gashed his knee really bad.

638
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah at the SFS.

639
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he wasn't running match and I was just

640
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 4: like I was just jumping in and out for him

641
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 4: at training, so I didn't assume I was playing. I

642
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 4: just thought this was back when you were eighth man.

643
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 4: You wouldn't even like you'd warm up and that's it.

644
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 4: You take your clothes off. So it was only play

645
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 4: the seventeen and then on the Sunday we got the

646
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 4: training which was my birthday, and we did the whole

647
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 4: session and at the end when you're the huddle, it's

648
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 4: not like it is now where kids get filmed and

649
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 4: you get told Jersey Prezzo she and he goes, oh

650
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 4: yeah boys. Then Wood he's playing tomorrow.

651
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: Did you know?

652
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 3: Didn't?

653
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: So you found out?

654
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 4: Found out? Then basically just told me. Then the club

655
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 4: you know he's here. Now kids get that many tickets.

656
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 4: I think I've got six tickets. Yeah, great club. But

657
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 4: I mean that's that's that's pleasant. He's probably looked so

658
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 4: he looked after and he's.

659
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 2: Looked at you, and he's probably thought right out, mate,

660
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: Woods's footy head. It's going to mean a lot to him.

661
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 2: If I tell him too early in the week, what's

662
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: going to happen is just going to burn an energy.

663
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: I'm just going to drop an.

664
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 3: That's what he said to me after the game. So,

665
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: and I was on the bench.

666
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 4: I played the last twenty minutes, and you know what

667
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 4: it's like when you get on the field, mate, I

668
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 4: was dead set, run around like a headless chuk. I

669
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 4: was gone after about four minutes. I never forget my

670
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 4: first carrier Registraight, Andrew Ryan and Corey Payne and they

671
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 4: hit me. I was like, fuck my first grades, Hardy.

672
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 2: The war feels different than well when you go from twenties,

673
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 2: Well there wasn't.

674
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: For me.

675
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: It was twenty one right and you have your first

676
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 2: crack in reserve grade. Although like when I was playing

677
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 2: reserve it wasn't as fast as twenty ones.

678
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: Yep, mate.

679
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: It's a physicality, like you tackle and you get there

680
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: for like, oh man, I'm tackling men.

681
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 4: Is the difference, you know when Like I never forget

682
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 4: that first year. It was the last round. So we

683
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 4: played against the Sharks and we were already in.

684
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 3: The top four.

685
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 4: Keith Galloway sort of had to cork and then she's like, look,

686
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 4: we're going to look after you got home semi next week.

687
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 4: So I end up starting and I'm come up against

688
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 4: Goo and this is Gou and the peak of his powers, mate,

689
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 4: like walking around like a brick shit hourse and like

690
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 4: he's like you know when someone sort of gets tackled

691
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 4: by the legs and they're on their knees, I've had

692
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: double undergrip of a wrestler and I'm trying to turn

693
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: him and he just didn't even budge, mate. He was

694
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 4: like it was like moving trying to move iron Wow,

695
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: And they go.

696
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 3: Said, mate, what do you like?

697
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: What do you eat?

698
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 3: Like I couldn't tackle you?

699
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 4: And a couple of years later, yeah, I didn't want

700
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 4: to say it. We're alluding to it, but love gow

701
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 4: he does that.

702
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 1: What about did you been in that like area? Did

703
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: you look up to like Benji and the likes of

704
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: Robbie and blokes like that, like we're there, we're there

705
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: heroes in that team?

706
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 4: Not really really, I see. I like the Tigers. Just

707
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: loved the style of footy they played. I was a

708
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 4: big so my two favorite players growing up with Jason

709
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 4: Rolls and Ben Kennedy. Oh yes, yeah, big BK. I

710
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 4: spoke to Maddie about it before. I just loved the

711
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 4: way they played. You know, I loved Ben when he

712
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 4: was at Newcastle Knights and then being a manly support

713
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 4: he come across and you know, you speak to a

714
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 4: lot of people and merely he changed the complete culture there.

715
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: Changed it.

716
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: Huge signing. Yeah, and it's he didn't get to win

717
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: a Grand Final when he was there, but I tear

718
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: what he was a massive part little things like Des

719
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 2: was coaching then and you know with Des was like

720
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: Des tickety boo with everything including diet. So when he

721
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: first got there, the boys never used to have a

722
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: beer after the game, like, and he went and bumped

723
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 2: their and said, Daz listen like everyone's tight and wound up.

724
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: Let him have a beer after the game and relaxed,

725
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: and Des went, deal, let's do it. Little things like that. Yeah.

726
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and with Roles, so I was huge Jason Rowles

727
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 4: fan used to watch all his tape because he's a

728
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 4: big body.

729
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: He had a good offload. I always tried. I tried

730
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: to like.

731
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 4: Get my game a little bit, like he's if I

732
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 4: could take one percent. And he come back from the

733
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 4: Super League. I think you went to Catlin's Dragons. He

734
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: played for the Roosters and we played him at like

735
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: it over one night, and I was like, we got

736
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 4: to win against them, but I was just filthy. I

737
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 4: never asked, like, never got to speak him after the game.

738
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 4: And I think the next year went to the Melbourne Storm,

739
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 4: had a short stint. Yeah, so we're playing against him

740
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 4: and then like he's my favorite player, so he's trying

741
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: to get stuck into it and all that. And then

742
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: at the end of the game when we're shaking hands.

743
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 4: I went hero, was he made dumb? Can I get

744
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 4: a photo? And he's like like, we.

745
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: Can swear on coming.

746
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you fucking taking the piss, mate, Like he thought.

747
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 4: I was like trying to say he's an old because mate,

748
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 4: you're one of my favorite players. He goes like, fuck off, mate,

749
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 4: and I was like, can I honestly can I get

750
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 4: a photo with your brother please?

751
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: And he's like, you're.

752
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: Not fucking taking the piss and I was like, no,

753
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 4: man's being serious. And he invited me in to the

754
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 4: sheds and not having to be with him after the

755
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 4: game and got a photo in Melbourne, like, and that's mate.

756
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 4: As a young bloke I was twenty one, I was like, Mane,

757
00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 4: this is the best that is.

758
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: He's a he is a terrific block, an excellent coach too, Rosie.

759
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: He's he's going to do some good things at Paramount

760
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: and next him as assistant at Melbourne. Oh yeah, and

761
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: he was such a good block. Could understand the best

762
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: thing about an assistant coach is the assistants. They probably

763
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: don't wear any of the pressure, so they're always the

764
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: boy's best friends. But Rosey could just understand when the

765
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: boys needed a lift. You know, you go in there

766
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: in video sessions, and rather than putting tape up, he

767
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: just put like funny videos that he'd watched over the weekend,

768
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: extremely inappropriate videos. Probably I probably can't.

769
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so the opposite of what Shane Flanagan would do.

770
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, completely.

771
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: I thought he was funny and it wasn't.

772
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: And nobody would laugh. Yeah. Manly Planner would always think,

773
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: how good is this stitch up video going to be?

774
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: And he'd like, right, oh, boys, I've got here's a

775
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: video of Aaron Woods, Sharon Woods, And he puts up

776
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: up that he thought was really funny and no one laugh.

777
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: Do you remember that day when I give it to him?

778
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 4: He was like into me, like he kept up saving

779
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 4: your career and just kept having me.

780
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: And one day on the.

781
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 4: Video he's like a, look, fucking can you get a

782
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: quick payable old?

783
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: You know?

784
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I said, mate, don't take you, don't take

785
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 4: your frustrations now me, it's not my fault. Ben Hunt

786
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 4: doesn't want to play for you.

787
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: And he was filthy.

788
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: Hasn't that been just an ongoing targer? I mean, look,

789
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: you know, divorce can be tough, but Jesus draged a

790
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: for a couple of years, have they what still going?

791
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: Still don't flannels in the paper saying he's filthy and

792
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: I forgoing, mate, Flannel.

793
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 4: This is mate, Flannel will be filthy. If you wont

794
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 4: a lotto come on, yeah, I gotcha, true.

795
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you'd have to split it with something. What

796
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: about at the Tigers there was always seemed to be

797
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's still a knock on it now, but

798
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: they always seem to be back then, Like from the

799
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: outside looking in culture issues Riffs was in the club

800
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: as a young boke in the club at that time,

801
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: and then you obviously ended up captaining the club five

802
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: or sixty years later. What was a lot of those issues?

803
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 4: Like as a young kid, I didn't really know too

804
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 4: much about it, Like you're just happy to play first grade,

805
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 4: Like I'm playing with blokes like Benji, you got you know,

806
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 4: Robbie early days. I think it was really good because

807
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 4: you had the likes of you know, your Todd Payton's,

808
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 4: Gareth Ellis.

809
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: The bloke Chris Henington was there.

810
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: You know, you had these even like a guy doesn't

811
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 4: cop a lot of that doesn't get much mention to.

812
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: His Brice Gibs.

813
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he used to pull blokes.

814
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: He was like, even if you haven't a beer, he

815
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 4: was the one you'd go to if there's any drama

816
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: or he like, you know, he's the one that.

817
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: Danny dam man.

818
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard the stories. You should see what he

819
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 4: used to do in the chain. There's one day like

820
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 4: on you know, on the edge of tables, there's like

821
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 4: that seal.

822
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 3: That you could pull off.

823
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 4: It's like and so they used to just do lashings

824
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: and whips in the in the change room. And I

825
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 4: remember I was a kid and him and Fulcy would

826
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 4: just go at it like it was all time. It's

827
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 4: hilarious and they go and they're like, you know, like

828
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 4: yeh bo yibo and then give.

829
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: I was like what I was like, he did something

830
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: on the show once he got a He put a nail,

831
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: put a nail through his hand and like if we

832
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: couldn't show it because it was so graphic, just went bang,

833
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: put a nail through his hand and then got like

834
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: a door and was like smashing his head through the door.

835
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: Like mate, it's pretty hard Corey goes, no, that's nothing, Maddie.

836
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: He goes right out, Let's hire a fishing trailer, right,

837
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: go out there. Just throw Burley out, get get a

838
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: couple of sharks of it, and goes, mate, I'll jump

839
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: on him. I was like, gives you, I just don't.

840
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 4: Have you heard the story about Bryce cart right John

841
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 4: Carr right and gives you so it is, Yeah, he didn't.

842
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: He didn't.

843
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 4: He didn't get picked for City City Country. And so

844
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 4: where we're at this place at Epping called the Tracks,

845
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: and Pharaoh is in city Camp and reaches out and

846
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 4: just said, I look, Cartwright said, you're not tough enough.

847
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 4: I don't know if far made it up or not.

848
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: I'm a kid.

849
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 4: I'm a kid at this stage this stage. So the

850
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 4: next thing, you know, we go back to think come in.

851
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: I think we have been Benji Maltz's place in breakfast

852
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: Point and we're just having to beer. And the next thing,

853
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 4: you know, gives you comes out with a plank of wood,

854
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 4: a nail and a hammer. And mind you, we've been

855
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 4: on the piece for quite a while. This is a

856
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 4: bye weekend. This is the old one where it'd be

857
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 4: like the City Country in Australia.

858
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: So you have the weekend off.

859
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: He goes to.

860
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 4: Undo his belt and pull his pants down and then

861
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 4: gets the piece of wood. He might put what you'd say,

862
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 4: something up against the wood down below.

863
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: So he puts his old fellows.

864
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 4: And then gets the nail and he goes, hey.

865
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 3: Cardie, you don't think I'm tough enough? Brother, He's one

866
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: tough hombre. He gives you.

867
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: That's that gives you.

868
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: Look if you're listening or you're watching this.

869
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 4: On he's one of my favorites.

870
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 3: Gives you. I love him, gives you.

871
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: I just think there's probably better ways, healthy ways to

872
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: show that you're tough. Brockman just run around the track.

873
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, while we're on a lot of that stuff.

874
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen, Teddy you, Yeah, Mitchie, Moses, Luke Brooks. You

875
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: all come off contract. I don't know how the club

876
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: allowed that to happen where you they're big four all

877
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: come off contract at the exact same.

878
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: I've got a fair idea what happened there.

879
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: But you guys all you'll come up contract. Yeah, it

880
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: was a huge sort of speculation. Where's everyone going to go?

881
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: Did you guys meet up together during that, like, were

882
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: you guys talking? Yeah, we spoke about it.

883
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you boys would like we were going to

884
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 4: take a pay cut, just to stay with each other. Yeah,

885
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 4: and it was basically done. So it was all done.

886
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 4: And then I remember I think I was going to

887
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 4: be the first to resign being the club captain, which

888
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 4: was a week before round one, and then I think

889
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 4: it was going to be Teddy, then Mitch and and

890
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 4: Luke together because we're all juniors and you know, in

891
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 4: the preseason. So it was really funny because we have

892
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 4: so many meetings and when I was a captain, you'd

893
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 4: meet with a lot of the board and you'd have

894
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 4: to do a certain amount of real yeah, just to

895
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, just to say the board were

896
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 4: doing stuff and the chairman and all that sort of stuff.

897
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 3: Mate.

898
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 4: And when I got out of those meetings, it was

899
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 4: basically all they were asking me was all this stuff

900
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 4: on Jason Taylor and it was like they wanted me

901
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 4: to say he shipped out and give him a reason

902
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 4: to sacking.

903
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that old, that old trick.

904
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 4: And then so I just after the first one, I

905
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 4: was like, I'll give him a chance to you like,

906
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 4: I don't really want to get involved, Like I'm happy

907
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 4: playing Footagejason. You know, I'm playing for Australian on the

908
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 4: JT he's been good for me. The only thing I

909
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 4: didn't really agree with with the stuff that happened with Farah.

910
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 4: You know he's still he's playing for was number nine

911
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 4: and then you put him reserve grade. I think that

912
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 4: was a pretty poor move and it cost us our

913
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 4: season that year. We'll still a chance of making the eight.

914
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: Other than that, it was all good. And then had

915
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 4: another couple of meetings like you just have a lunch

916
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 4: at West Least Club and then yeah, I just I

917
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 4: just was like, mate, I think they're trying to try.

918
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: To spear him, so it would yeah, good Slams time.

919
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: You know what happened.

920
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 4: So I was I started doing three sixty with I

921
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 4: think it was Benny Iichen and Pouquette at the time

922
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 4: and James Graham, and they just asked me one night,

923
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 4: so what like, are you going to re sign? And

924
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 4: I was basically told I think Tod was like, I'm

925
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 4: literally about to resign because this is a week before.

926
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: The season and I hadn't done it.

927
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 4: And then I will just ask you about it on

928
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 4: air and then I was like oh yeah, and they

929
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 4: go what it like what I said?

930
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 3: You go, what do you want to who.

931
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 4: The coach is going to be long term and next

932
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 4: you know the headline, we need to know who the

933
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 4: coaches going. Yeah, and then we so we won round

934
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 4: one and it was a game when we played against

935
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 4: Farah when he first played for Souths, So it was

936
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: a big It was a really big build up for

937
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 4: that one. And then we lost two on the trot

938
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 4: and we had a big so it was a discussion.

939
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 4: We got beat by Canberra. It was like I think

940
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: we got be like forty to forty or something, and

941
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 4: it was it was a pretty poor display. And then

942
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 4: j T and myself was sort of just talking about

943
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 4: things outside of the dressing room and there was a

944
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 4: little bit of an alter kate not with us, but

945
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 4: there's another couple of players and I was just like

946
00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 4: all right, sort.

947
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: It out, blah blah blah of the players, like just.

948
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 4: A bit of frustration, like oh yeah, what happened with

949
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 4: the game plan wise?

950
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: And all that.

951
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 4: Literally we have so we drive that was a Sunday,

952
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: we drive back. We had training on Monday, recovery review

953
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 4: at Enfield Pool. So we're having a swim on the

954
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 4: massage table and mate, this is when we all just

955
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 4: got Twitter.

956
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: We found out then that he got.

957
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: The ass Jason Taylor.

958
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: Jason Taler got the Rissole.

959
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 4: So every player had to go to west Ashield and

960
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 4: everyone thinks it was a last fair And that's how

961
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 4: we found out mate. So they were just looking for

962
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 4: a reason to give him the Rissole, but they wanted

963
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 4: to pull on someone else.

964
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: Imagine that the press they went, they talked to you.

965
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 2: Then I guess straight the press looks so the reason

966
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: we say j two. We had a long talk to

967
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 2: the playgroup and they said, basically, they gave us no choice.

968
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 2: We had to say him who just speaks to the playgroup, would.

969
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 4: He well might hurt there because Farr went the year before,

970
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 4: so normally he gets pulled on everything him.

971
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: Own. The you turned into the scape game.

972
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but and the hard thing was I was on

973
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 4: three sixty Wednesday nights. It was Tuesday night, I think,

974
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 4: and then Wednesday morning I do like an interview with

975
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: Big Sports, Breakfast with t K and slats. Yeah, and

976
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 4: you know what it was. The next ten weeks was

977
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 4: just it was relentless. But you know what, you always

978
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 4: show up. Did you talk about it and people think

979
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 4: you're lying or I'm honestly not lying I'd love to

980
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 4: be able to tell you more, but I can't.

981
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: Is that when so when all of that happened, did

982
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: that get you guys off side.

983
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 4: With the club a little bit? It frustrated me. Is

984
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 4: I just wanted to just them to own it?

985
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is that probably why you know yourself, Mitch Teddy

986
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: decided to leave. It was one of the close reasons.

987
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 4: And then I think we played against the Bulldogs on

988
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 4: Anzac Day and then that was the game when they

989
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 4: read out number one James Tedesco and he got a

990
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 4: little bit of a boo. Number six miss most has

991
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 4: got a massive and then number seven Luke Books because

992
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: he was the one that was he got a cheer,

993
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 4: and then our captain Number I got the biggest but

994
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 4: that in time Brooks.

995
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: Brooks he got his stuff at the end.

996
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 4: But yeah, so I got the biggest bill and then

997
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 4: like man, I was just rattled after that. I hadn't

998
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 4: made a decision then, yeah, and I was feeling getting

999
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 4: I got the man the match that day, so I've

1000
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 4: got a little Lanzac medal and I remember going to

1001
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 4: my family and tearing up.

1002
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 3: I was like my own fans have turned on me.

1003
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: I don't even made the decision.

1004
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: It is. It's ruthless. Game isn't rapular.

1005
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: They're all sitting there, the big four and Brooks he goes, anyway, boys, great,

1006
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: we're all going to stay together.

1007
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: Boys boys.

1008
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 4: And then so I remember we had a meeting. We

1009
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 4: had a meeting at the Dogs, so Teddy and myself

1010
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: and it was I think it was Teddy myself, it

1011
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 4: was Isaac and Ray did So.

1012
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,959
Speaker 2: Isaac Moses and did might.

1013
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 4: Rain might not have been there, I'm not sure. And

1014
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 4: they said, if Desi comes in, he's going to still

1015
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 4: be the coach. If he doesn't, he's been given yass. Okay,

1016
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 4: so do you remember that period, mad he's.

1017
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: On the house.

1018
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: A lot of people get a lot of people get

1019
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: sacked in rubblue, which it's hard to keep twenty seventeen. Ah, yes, yes,

1020
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: he was blowing with the board and.

1021
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 4: Everyone was big time. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. So and

1022
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 4: I think they gave him an extension, but he ended

1023
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 4: up getting the ass in the off season yep. So

1024
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 4: so yeah, So we sat down with des He brings

1025
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 4: out this big you heard of his stats book. He's

1026
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 4: got these KPIs and all that of each individual position.

1027
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 3: And top blah blah blah.

1028
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 4: That was the one where William Mason was like they

1029
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: had a toll on number one and you know, and

1030
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 4: what he's like, call him man, I'll get a quicker

1031
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 4: playerball in that way. Yeah, that was the one, and

1032
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 4: we didn't really care. We're both in a pretty crap headspace.

1033
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 4: We just wanted to get the fact that we wanted

1034
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 4: to get Mitchell to come with us, gotcha, Desney want.

1035
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: To have a bar of it, didn't want to bar.

1036
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 4: And we were gonna we would like we were willing

1037
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 4: to say whatever his wage is, take it off ours, okay,

1038
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 4: because we were close mates.

1039
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 2: Who's playing hardho the playmakers at that point.

1040
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 4: So Reynolds has been moved on. Ye he signed Keran

1041
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 4: Forhan gotcha, Okay, just wanted.

1042
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: And who was out There's Trent Hodgkinson the other.

1043
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 4: Half with him. I think Trea was a Newcastle this period, right,

1044
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 4: Matt Frawley was the other half there.

1045
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Yeah, so.

1046
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 2: Newcastle where Halve's career is going to dike in the.

1047
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 3: Last years after certain somebody.

1048
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: Don't he coached them.

1049
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: To unbelievable, Yeah.

1050
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: Tell me about it. So yeah, so des walks in

1051
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: the door.

1052
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 4: We all pretty much basically get told he's going to

1053
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 4: be here, and then we tried to persuade des and

1054
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 4: then I think we end up moving on. And then

1055
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 4: we had another meeting with him and it was like

1056
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 4: it was at the Belmore facility. They full gave us

1057
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: a jersey each meet and Teddy and they did a presentation.

1058
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 4: It was like and I was at this period of times,

1059
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 4: I just I don't give it out to I just need.

1060
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: To get out.

1061
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm over footy. It's turning into a business

1062
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 4: for me. The club's turned, you know whatever. And then

1063
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 4: I thought, literally thought Teddy was coming to Minochello rings

1064
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 4: him from their connection in Italy camp. I think you might.

1065
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 4: I think Jack might have been there in that camp

1066
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 4: when they were together. Yeah yeah, so boom, Uncle under

1067
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 4: gets him.

1068
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 2: It's not like Uncle Nick got under someone's guard.

1069
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 3: Just unbelievable.

1070
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: So it would have been, you know, it would have been.

1071
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: Do you oftentimes think if he chatted to the other

1072
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: boys and said what if we all?

1073
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 4: I always say like, look because I signed at dogs

1074
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 4: and then said DEAs left got rissold Ray Dibb got

1075
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 4: the punt and so did Railing Castle.

1076
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: So I've got there and.

1077
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 4: I'm just like, everything that said we're going to do

1078
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 4: it's all gone. I'm like, mate, what have I done?

1079
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1080
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 3: Yes, this is horrendous.

1081
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well let's talk about the dogs just for a second,

1082
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: because you only you signed there. How long was your contract?

1083
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: You signed there four years, four years, yep, but stayed

1084
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: four weeks.

1085
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was about four five too long?

1086
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: So you left. You left halfway through the year before

1087
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: the June thirty day and you go to c What

1088
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: what were the circumstances in you actually leaving?

1089
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: Was so the cat was horrendous.

1090
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 4: They stuffed up their cap, they had blokes back and

1091
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 4: I think Greg East was on like nine hundred and

1092
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 4: for the last two years, things like that, which is

1093
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 4: a fair.

1094
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 3: Play to him, like he's got to get his money.

1095
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 2: I remember. I think they said it's the old trick

1096
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: where they go, well mate, you know, just to let

1097
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: you know you're on this sort of money, but if

1098
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: you don't move on, we're going to play in reserve

1099
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: greade And I remember Greg Goose would go on, no problem,

1100
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 2: I'll play reserve.

1101
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 4: So he had another year as well, madey Yeah, he

1102
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 4: was contract with twenty nineteen and then we sort of

1103
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 4: got a bit of win that they couldn't get any

1104
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 4: players to move on because the other clubs wouldn't taken

1105
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 4: for the salary. And my manager at the time went

1106
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 4: to them and said, look, if I move, if I

1107
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 4: get you know, if Woodsy gets a bit interest, what

1108
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 4: do you say. We didn't want him to go, but

1109
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 4: if you do, you know, we're happy for him to go.

1110
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 4: And the only two players they could sort of move

1111
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 4: on was myself and Moses in by Ah. Yeah, yeah,

1112
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 4: so we were the two that ended up moving on. Look,

1113
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 4: there was a couple of discussions with certain clubs. I

1114
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 4: think Newcastle was one, and the Roosters or Sharks for me,

1115
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 4: And then look, I looked at the Roosters. I spoke

1116
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 4: to Teddy a lot. I just didn't think I'd fit

1117
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 4: in there, like I'm a bit of a different.

1118
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: Character to oh, no, you're not too hard.

1119
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 4: I'm a different cat than what those sort of looks are.

1120
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 4: They're great players and all that, But then I looked

1121
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 4: at the Sharks like I'd played with Wado, I'd play

1122
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 4: with poor Gallon, you know, Luke Lewis. I played a

1123
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 4: lot of footy and it wasn't too far from where

1124
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 4: I lived. It was only twenty minutes.

1125
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 1: Were rough around the edges of those blokes.

1126
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I knock about terrific. Have a beer on a

1127
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 4: Monday Tuesday.

1128
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, beer and thongs, not Ralf Loren polo shirts and pilos.

1129
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, got Teddy's turned into.

1130
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: Well before you go to the Sharks, let's talk through

1131
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: your states, some of the state of origin experiences, because

1132
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: that was just you know, going to the Bulldogs. Probably

1133
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: that period ultimately hurt a lot of your representative jerseys

1134
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: that you had at the time. I think you lose

1135
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: your jersey when you start of origin jersey when you

1136
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: go to the Bulldogs. But the years before your debut

1137
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, as Queensland win their eighth series in

1138
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: a row, what was it like playing against that Queensland

1139
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: side that was hard? Man?

1140
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 4: Like, you look, there's no weaknesses in the team. You

1141
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 4: look at who that mate barely slayd at fullback. I

1142
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 4: think Darius Boyd was one wing. I come to the

1143
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 4: other like Greeg Listens in the centers with Justin Hodges,

1144
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: Matte Scott. This is when Matt Scott and Nate Mile

1145
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 4: was a flying You gotta remember, Yeah, and you're a

1146
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 4: J two.

1147
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: You got Kronk on the bench, you got luckier Smith Smith.

1148
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 4: You know, I'll tell you what a lot of the

1149
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 4: times if you watch the games, like we didn't get

1150
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 4: flogged a lot, it would be a moment in the

1151
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 4: game and all it was was as simple. We'd have

1152
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 4: money of the pump, would be winning by like two

1153
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: points or four points. Cameron Smith would come out, be

1154
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 4: on there twenty or thirty. He'd kick the ball and

1155
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 4: then we'd be pined. You'd see Thurston Kronk and you know,

1156
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 4: the outside backs just fly in and would be four tackles.

1157
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: On our trial line.

1158
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 4: We'd come up with an error and it just changed

1159
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 4: the complete momentum of the game.

1160
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so frustrated.

1161
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: It is there that is their big play. When they

1162
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: are under pressure. They oftentimes say, you know, it's absorbed pressure.

1163
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: They'll absorb the pressure. And I've seen me in Tom

1164
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: Smith right hand, pick up left foot, kick straight down

1165
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: the field first and chases of me and now suddenly

1166
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: you blakes under mass.

1167
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 3: We had a care smith.

1168
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,479
Speaker 4: Box like it was every time, you know, you knew

1169
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 4: that he would do it off a slow player. The

1170
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 4: boy he would just pick the right time to change momentum.

1171
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a Fullbacks worst nightmare. Now you see they're

1172
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: still doing it. That's our identity now. Cherry Evans does

1173
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: the exact same thing.

1174
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: How I met Cameron Smith. I'd suggest that Nathan clear

1175
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: is probably he's.

1176
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: A Wingers worst nightmare, pops those torpedoes.

1177
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 3: He's everyone's night there the middle forward today.

1178
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: But then the next year twenty fourteen, you go into

1179
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: the starting lineup and you're a part of the series

1180
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: that breaks the eight and the roads route for New

1181
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: South Wales. Run us through that because that series was

1182
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: it's iconic and you so well its folk lore one

1183
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: in a row.

1184
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 3: That was really cool.

1185
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: That was as you look at the side that they

1186
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 4: had the bloke lot we just mentioned them before. And

1187
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 4: then I remember in thirteen I felt like I went

1188
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 4: into the side but just was happy to be there.

1189
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 4: You know, Matdie, You've we've spoke about it before in

1190
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 4: other shows that you do. You can go into teams

1191
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 4: and just think it's going to happen, or like just

1192
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 4: you know, you want to get around everyone, but you've

1193
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 4: got your job to do, you know. And I think

1194
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 4: I got a little bit overawed by the occasion in thirteen,

1195
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 4: you know, like sort of you push up with blokes

1196
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 4: instead just go and demand the ball, get you carry.

1197
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 4: And I remember, like I'm playing with some blokes that

1198
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 4: love carry, like you know, you've got goo like you know,

1199
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 4: blokes that want the ball, ye, yeah, you So you've

1200
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 4: got to demand it and you've got to have a

1201
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 4: bit of authority in there. And that's what I did

1202
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 4: try to do in game one. And you know, there's

1203
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 4: been a lot of chopping changing from the front rolls

1204
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 4: for New South Wales for a certain period of time

1205
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 4: and it seemed to work. And we sort of feed

1206
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 4: off the back of each other like we had we

1207
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 4: had bird like they just wanted they wanted.

1208
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: To be in the action.

1209
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 4: And then so as a team we just got together

1210
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 4: and we did we did a camp up in Coffs Harbor.

1211
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 4: So I think for previous years it is all about

1212
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 4: going down the cougie staying is it the crown?

1213
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? And then yeah stay the crown plus yeah.

1214
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 4: Then we got to get away and end up going

1215
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 4: up to Queensland for that Game one and beating them

1216
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 4: up there. And I'm telling you that that's the hardest

1217
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 4: game to date of it all. That one in the

1218
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 4: World Cup Final against England is the two hardest games

1219
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 4: ever played. It just felt like in the second half

1220
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 4: we couldn't get out of our thirty meter zone. There

1221
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 4: was one play I think Jared Haynes come up with.

1222
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 4: He made a line break on play four and he

1223
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 4: kicked it on the fifth meter line.

1224
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: It just felt like we were.

1225
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 4: Just it might have been a boring game to watch,

1226
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 4: like people say the Grand Final was born to watch

1227
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 4: this year, which I don't think it was. I think

1228
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 4: it was a great game of footye, but it was.

1229
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 4: It was an old traditional game where they just just

1230
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 4: one team just getting coming out of the end and

1231
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 4: the other side just dominating.

1232
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: Literally yeah true forces back.

1233
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah they were. Yeah, that was It's funny,

1234
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 2: you know, would see that night when you when you

1235
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: won the series and you know, the winning try and

1236
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff and all the celebrations. I'm

1237
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: walking out of a Core stadium and I'm going into

1238
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: the car parts to drive home. Anyway, this lady runs

1239
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: up and she's got the blue scarf and the blue jersey.

1240
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: Bad here you're going on from Newcastle?

1241
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: Get here?

1242
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: How good is that? How good is that said, that's fantastic.

1243
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: He goes, oh, I hope we do. Hope you don't

1244
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: win too many in a row. That didn't start to

1245
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: get boring, I said, Darling. We just lost eight or

1246
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: nine straight, just relaxed. But that shows the difference between

1247
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: New South Wales and Queensland in the in the run

1248
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: where Queensland won all those all those games in a row,

1249
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 2: the fever in Queensland just grew and grew and grew,

1250
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: and the TV ratings in Queensland kept going through the roof.

1251
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: Now if that had been New South Wales we'd be

1252
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: going savage is dead.

1253
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, literally, that's boring. We need to start having a

1254
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: bit more conceition.

1255
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 2: When New South Wales beat Queensland two thousand and fifty

1256
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: six sixteen in the decider, everyone was at that point again.

1257
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: That origin instead in Andrew Webster's book The Wolf Your Food,

1258
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: about Wayne's likeste Wayne turned up at lunch. There was

1259
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: a couple of journeys in it. Might have been someone

1260
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: from the queens Land Rugby League. Wayne got a piece

1261
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 2: of paper, pulled it out because Mark Murray was the

1262
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: coach at that point, and wrote fifty six sixteen through

1263
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: it in the middle of the table and they went,

1264
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: what's that? He went, fifty six to sixteen, and then

1265
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 2: he went wrote a list of players of young players

1266
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: who hadn't played the state of origin, who had to

1267
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: be picked because they were made of the right stuff

1268
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: and could win the next year through that on the

1269
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: table and they went, what's that. He goes, they're the

1270
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: players you're going to pick. They said, you were interested

1271
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: in coaching? He said, might be, but I'm not going

1272
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 2: to take the other blake's jobs up to you blokes,

1273
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: And of course he took over. The next year, all

1274
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: those young blakes get a start and they win the series.

1275
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 3: Believed that's pretty cool.

1276
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: It is, well seeks one of the few stories.

1277
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 3: That's a great story.

1278
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it will cut every other story. You told that

1279
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: able to leave that one, you know, like you man.

1280
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 4: After after that game too weird, It was pretty cool.

1281
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 3: It was a good week. After that, we had to

1282
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 3: buy How Good Maddie, Maddie.

1283
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: There's a lot of piss, Yeah, because that's weird because

1284
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,479
Speaker 1: you're still got to go and play game three.

1285
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 4: In game three, camp mate, we knew like we wanted

1286
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 4: to win three nil, but were you're partying like we

1287
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 4: had some good times and series is one. You've got

1288
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 4: to think of eight series in a row we lost

1289
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 4: and to finally win one, like we still wanted to

1290
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,479
Speaker 4: win that game three, but we had some fun.

1291
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: Man. I hope Laurie gets another crack point lay you

1292
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: don't get and at the moment they're saying to unlikely

1293
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: because you won't change the real the fact that he's

1294
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 2: associated with the gambling company. You guys, it's lorry daily

1295
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 2: that I've met people with as much integrity, but no

1296
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: one with more.

1297
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 3: Great fellow.

1298
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 4: Even just like picking his braining camps, Like, mate, people

1299
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 4: don't realize how much he did in the game.

1300
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: Mate, what about the eye.

1301
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: When he played when when he first came into grame,

1302
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: right into first grade, he was a wild dog, played Sanders,

1303
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: he was massive, and then moved into into six little

1304
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: couple of years after. But mate, he was like, you

1305
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: have a look at the when they win the camp

1306
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 2: for the first time, came Raiders and they're driving these

1307
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: like sort of little cars and Loss is in the

1308
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 2: car and all the fans like cheering, and he's vombiting

1309
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: outside of the card. I think he dropped the trophy,

1310
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 2: did Yeah? The trophy broke. There was another story I

1311
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: can't tell. I went when the Prime Minister walked into

1312
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 2: the dressing room. It was there was a few things

1313
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: went on. I think that was almost like the point

1314
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 2: where Laurie goes, I've got to sort of adjust my behavior.

1315
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: But my favorite ever State of Origin moment involves, you

1316
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: would say, twenty sixteen Michael Jennings scores is an infamous

1317
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: try now the great It can only be described as

1318
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: the greatest football try celebration of all time. You you

1319
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: jump and try to get on the huddle completely and

1320
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: sort of land on your shoulder and roll over. But

1321
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: meanwhile there's so much going on. James Maloney goes and

1322
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: shoves Corey Parker in the back and then you see

1323
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: him run away and who else Slam's pushing and shoving

1324
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: with Dane gay guy. I think, yeah, Jack bird like

1325
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: gets completely gets tripped.

1326
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 4: Over by one of his own Teamgena celebrating by himself.

1327
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and you're celebrating in front of the referee.

1328
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: I want to ask, because that was a meme for

1329
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: a long time, that picture of you with the long

1330
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 1: Jesus hair with the hands up. How many times still

1331
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: to this day.

1332
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 4: Do you get sent that always, especially at Origin time,

1333
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 4: you know what happened because you see the Pendrith boys

1334
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 4: they jump up a lot of the time. Now it's

1335
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 4: a lot of sides copy the celebration and you see

1336
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 4: it happen quite a fair bit now, but that period,

1337
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 4: so we're so happy when like that moment because what

1338
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 4: everyone forgets is Darius boys So we're winning that whole

1339
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 4: game and Darius Boyd scores in like the seventy eighth

1340
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 4: minute to put them in front, and we would have

1341
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 4: got beat.

1342
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 3: Three and noil.

1343
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 4: That was Gal's last ever Origin game, and we got

1344
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 4: the ball back. You know, we passed out back Ergo

1345
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 4: makes a break and then he gets I think Tesco

1346
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 4: gets tackled probably a meter out from Cooper Kronk that's

1347
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 4: come from the other side of the field. What a

1348
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 4: chase like what a player typical queens then stuff. Then

1349
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 4: we shift and then Go gets the boards like of

1350
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 4: anyone in the tea to get the ball on a shift.

1351
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: Tron buns in the foot section and they were like

1352
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 2: just pass it.

1353
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: Gow.

1354
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 4: He finds Jennings and just scoops back under scores and

1355
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 4: it's like maybe we've done a queens and the queens Land.

1356
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 4: So we've all just come flying in and I've thought like, yeah,

1357
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 4: I was so happy with jenk and I'm gone to

1358
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 4: jump up bloody Josh Mantil pushes him in just a

1359
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 4: little bit and I miss it and then I sort

1360
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 4: of roll over like nothing happened. I get up and

1361
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 4: like yeah, like in front of the ref, like give.

1362
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 1: It a try.

1363
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: I didn't think no one's seen it.

1364
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, seems like yeah.

1365
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 4: And none of the boys had mentioned any to me

1366
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 4: about it. We were on the field after the game

1367
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 4: and we're celebrating. So get back in the into the

1368
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 4: phone boys, back in the into the sheds like eighty messages.

1369
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: It was so funny. Hey, while we're on rap footy, quep.

1370
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: You played a lot for your country at this stage

1371
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: as well. I suppose what I want to ask I'm

1372
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: not going to ask you too much around games you

1373
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: play to experiences in that jersey, but I want to

1374
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: ask you from your experiences, what were you more proud

1375
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: of wearing the Australian jersey or the Blues jersey? Because

1376
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: it's a big talking point at the moment the international game.

1377
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: How do we grow it?

1378
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 4: I think for Origin it's probably bigger because the two

1379
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 4: states we know they hate each other. But as a

1380
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 4: player to be picked in the best seventeen for both

1381
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 4: those sides, for me, that was probably the biggest honor. Yeah,

1382
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 4: to know that, Like I got to play with Kemeron Smith,

1383
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 4: Billy Slater, Jonathan Thurston's blokes that I'd watched for such

1384
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 4: a long period of time, which even without doubt they're

1385
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 4: going to be future mortals. To play with those guys,

1386
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 4: to learn off them. I was coached by malmninga a

1387
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 4: bloke that I'd never thought I'd ever meet in my

1388
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 4: life and you know I still message him now.

1389
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 3: To this day.

1390
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 4: Got great respect for So for me, I definitely reckons

1391
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 4: it's the Australian How do we grow that? I don't

1392
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 4: know how we grow the game because it's hard, Like

1393
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 4: it's not a well scored.

1394
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 2: It's it's the blessing and the curse of state of origin.

1395
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 2: I mean the state of origin is at the moment

1396
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: it's the pinnacle. It should not be. It should be

1397
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 2: it should be national football. And the thing about it

1398
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: is woods international football in my opinion has never been healthier.

1399
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: I mean there was a period in the in the

1400
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: late eighties going into the nineties that England Great Britain

1401
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: were very very strong, had some great size of ellery

1402
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: and whatnot. But at the moment it's never been stronger.

1403
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: You've got Tonga and Sama who have just emerged.

1404
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 4: What did you watch Tong the other week, like if

1405
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 4: they had you know, not disrespect the nine when Sunny

1406
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 4: Luke come and they looked a lot.

1407
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: They did like It's course young katoa sort of is

1408
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: a young half. You can see mentally he's hit the

1409
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: wall at the back end of the long year that

1410
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: it's a long year. If he was if he was

1411
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 2: playing the sort of football that he's going to be

1412
00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 2: playing very very soon.

1413
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 4: And then a lot of here comes from that super

1414
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 4: league system. It's a little bit different, of course it is.

1415
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 4: And we speak about moments in the game. It was

1416
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,479
Speaker 4: six noil he goes to that forty twenty that comes off.

1417
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: So you've got you've got the Pacific Nations e merging England,

1418
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: England have been strong, they've come under, they've they've done

1419
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: some good stuff and New Zealand's powerhouse, New zealand'shouse. New

1420
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: Zealand even with those even with Jerome.

1421
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: I'd love to see there. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's

1422
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: so big, so scary. We spoke about the circumstances around

1423
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: the bulldog stuff before we get onto post post Bulldogs

1424
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: era for Hour and Woods. How tough. How tough is

1425
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: that period where you go from you know, you're the

1426
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: best front rower in the world, playing for your state,

1427
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: playing for your country. You know, there's the circumstances around

1428
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: the Bulldogs, which then ultimately leads you, you know to

1429
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: losing a lot of those representative jerseys shit out.

1430
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 4: You know, you love being those those camps coops. It's

1431
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 4: the best fun of your life. Yeah, it was obviously

1432
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 4: you make a decision, you got to back it. But

1433
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 4: maybe there was days where like, like I said to

1434
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 4: you before, like I signed under Des, so I thought

1435
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 4: I was going to you know, I've heard a lot

1436
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 4: about Des and like, I love my footy and I

1437
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 4: heard that he's going to be you know, you're in

1438
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 4: early you're doing a lot of footy stuff, so I

1439
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 4: was really looking forward to it. And then you go

1440
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 4: to someone like Dean pay what a great man, But

1441
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 4: I just think he probably wasn't ready to coach yet,

1442
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 4: so he was just thrown into the Wolves for de pay.

1443
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: Like, when you look at hindsight, I'm surprised you hasn't

1444
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 2: not getting spoken about the state of origin. I think

1445
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: it'd be a great state of Yeah, but what he

1446
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: did looking back in hindsight the Bulldogs, he did remarkably

1447
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: well he's a group of kids.

1448
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 4: I think it's also scarred him a little bit too.

1449
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 4: I don't think he's doing anything in the game anymore, Maney,

1450
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 4: I think he's back on.

1451
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 3: The trots out at Dubbo.

1452
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a great fellow, like and probably in

1453
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 4: some of the situations that we had, Like we had

1454
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 4: some tough periods at the Dogs when I was.

1455
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: There, I would lose.

1456
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 4: We lost about six or seven games, but we'd lose

1457
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 4: by four points max. We could defend, we just couldn't

1458
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 4: score points.

1459
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was what I used to watch is. Yeah,

1460
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 2: it's funny, isn't it when you when you don't have that. Really,

1461
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say icon doesn't have to be

1462
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 2: an iconic carpet unless, like you have got a great playmakers.

1463
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 2: It gives you a swagger. Yeah, it gives you swagger.

1464
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: And when you see sides that haven't like I watched

1465
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 2: paramatter for years when they went through a difficult periods

1466
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: and I saw use it. You guys at that point

1467
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 2: you can win the artist battle, but you get up

1468
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 2: to that last twenty meters, he just can't score.

1469
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 4: Maybe we had a gapture confidence against the Rusters. We've

1470
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 4: got beat four nil and I think we had like

1471
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 4: sixty seventy percent position. Yeah right, yeah, mate, we just

1472
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 4: couldn't get out of the trail line.

1473
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. You need that swag.

1474
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 4: And I've gone from the Tigers, who it's the opposite.

1475
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 4: You don't want to tagle, they want to score points. Yeah, yeah,

1476
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 4: it's way to get a ball back tackles him again.

1477
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: If we don't let it try, then you move under

1478
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: your third your third club out of five. Honestly, you've

1479
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: had that many were.

1480
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: Talking about you got more clubs than John Farner.

1481
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: More clubs and Tiger Woods. But you have Tim Sheen's,

1482
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: Jason Taylor, Mick Potter, Andrew Webster, Ivan Cleary, Team Pay,

1483
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: Shane Flanagan, Anthony c B, John Morris, and Anthony Griffin

1484
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: in your whole career of coaches.

1485
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 3: And I've had Lorie, I've had Freddy down.

1486
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: Honestly, talking about who was the best, who was the

1487
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: worst of wys anything.

1488
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's my question, but best best and worst

1489
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: coach of obviously I will go with the worst first.

1490
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, well mate, be kind Woodsy. You just said it there, mate,

1491
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 4: just the tone of the way Anthony would would I was.

1492
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 4: I like to have a little bit of fun, take

1493
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 4: the pisce a lot, but you know you train hard

1494
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 4: in that Queensland blokes are different, completely different than what

1495
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 4: I wasn't especially where he was from the queens Country,

1496
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 4: you know, straight down there, didn't know.

1497
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 3: I don't think you could.

1498
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: Read the room.

1499
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 4: Well, old hookie boy, real different cat just very if

1500
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 4: you if people understand listening a Queensland way a Queensland

1501
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 4: take on rugby league, yes, didn't understand. You know, structures

1502
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 4: a lot. Was just about making your tackles and just

1503
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 4: keep longs.

1504
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: Yep.

1505
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 2: There is a definite difference between Queensland Rabbia League and

1506
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: New South Wales Rugby League. There is a different a

1507
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: difference in that. And the other thing about Woodsi right,

1508
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 2: people who have been assistant coaches under Wayne try to

1509
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 2: take the magic. Wayne's got the magic. The magic is

1510
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: Wayne himself and people try to go away and they

1511
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 2: try to be minimalist, like you know, oh you know

1512
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 2: what about that? I don't know about that. Coaches, you're

1513
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: trying to be Wayne here, You're not Wayne.

1514
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.

1515
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 4: He really struggled to talk, just used to give us

1516
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 4: some emotion about something, you know. And the only time

1517
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 4: we showed a motion was Captains Run. When he knew

1518
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 4: they're looking a barbecue like it was his favorite thing.

1519
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 4: He'd always get like a like he if there, if

1520
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 4: we ran out of bacon and eggs on the Captain's Run.

1521
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 3: He'd be filthy. He'd be fuming, like.

1522
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 4: I've never seen someone so angry, and why what? He

1523
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 4: was just all about that, mate, like he loved it.

1524
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 4: And then like we'll be on the on the on

1525
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 4: the paddick doing Captains Run. If you're working, they've got

1526
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 4: a big fight, a big flo you're the barbecue, real.

1527
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 3: Name train.

1528
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 4: Last thing I'm worrying about. But you know a funny

1529
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 4: story about hook when you do army camps. He's jumped

1530
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 4: on the army camp and didn't like did it with

1531
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 4: us or didn't like carry everything. Brother, I've never seen

1532
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 4: someone with like grade five chafe really Honestly, the big

1533
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 4: man could hardly walk.

1534
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: Is he between the between the gronds or between the cheeks?

1535
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 2: Cheeks?

1536
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 4: I think I think it was everything he was. He

1537
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 4: was in some fucking barny rabble. It was all as

1538
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 4: a player. And that it makes you feel way better

1539
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 4: about yourself. I said, And I think this probably rab

1540
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 4: you the wrong way. I say, Benny, you want to

1541
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 4: rab it for him? Benny didn't go down.

1542
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: To I reckon.

1543
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes you can pick a you can pick a cach.

1544
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 2: There's different ways to define a coach and a quality

1545
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 2: of a coach. One is tactically what they do there.

1546
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: Secondly their ability to get the team up, and the

1547
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 2: third one is their ability to break bad news, the

1548
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 2: willingness to break bad news to a play it and

1549
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 2: the way they do it. What was what was he

1550
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 2: like as far as that it's concerned like telling Blake's

1551
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 2: you're not going to be here next year. We're telling

1552
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 2: blokes you're in reserve grade.

1553
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 4: Oh my one remember when look the stuff happened When

1554
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 4: I went to Mainly So we just had a training session.

1555
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 4: It was round two and and we had a training

1556
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 4: session in the afternoon at Cogra. Then we went to

1557
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 4: Dragon's Least Club, which is just across the road. We

1558
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 4: had some dinner and then I had to go and

1559
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 4: commentate a game for Triple m and it was the

1560
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 4: game when Mitchell Moses had just resigned, so they played

1561
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 4: against Penrith.

1562
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 3: You kick the field goal membery like that that one.

1563
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 4: So what happened was We're having dinner in the little

1564
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 4: room the Leagues club and Hook kept looking at me

1565
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 4: and Penny Harron and.

1566
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, what the are you looking at me for?

1567
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: Like have I done something wrong here?

1568
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 4: And then I was like I must be getting dropped,

1569
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 4: Like I'm going to give me an extension.

1570
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 3: Far from that.

1571
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 4: Then, So what I've done is I've hopped in the

1572
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 4: car obviously had to leave go commentate the game. So

1573
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 4: I rang my manager, who's got Mitchell, and I just said,

1574
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 4: oh mate, great news, Like what's so what's it all about?

1575
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 4: Like what's happened? And he goes, so, what have you heard?

1576
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, you know, Mitch's just resigned

1577
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 4: for the four or five years. You know, I want

1578
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 4: to pump him up, like just you know, is it

1579
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 4: because with Dylan Brown there's a lot of boom. What

1580
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 4: is it thinking his favorite option option option.

1581
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 3: I said that.

1582
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 4: He goes, no, no, it's all sweet, and he goes,

1583
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 4: but what have you heard about the other stuff? And

1584
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, what are you talking about the other stuff?

1585
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 2: Mate?

1586
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 4: And he goes, oh, I thought that's what you're ringing

1587
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 4: me about. Didn't Hook speak to you? And I was

1588
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 4: like no, I said, to be honest, he was looking

1589
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 4: at me funny at the dinner we just had, and

1590
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 4: he goes, oh, they're trying to do a swap with

1591
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 4: with you and these two other younger forwards dragons.

1592
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: At Many Many.

1593
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, to do the swap.

1594
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 4: I think it was Alex and Feeda.

1595
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: Yes.

1596
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 2: Yes, they would have went on nah mate.

1597
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 3: So what happened then?

1598
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 4: So they made me eighteenth man that game it was

1599
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 4: against We played against the Sharks at Cogra and then

1600
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 4: we did the game, and then at the end of

1601
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 4: the game, so I had to do the blue shirt,

1602
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 4: just do everything properly, and by this time all all

1603
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:30,919
Speaker 4: of it come out.

1604
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 3: Wood is probably going to go to Manly.

1605
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 4: So I've come out of the back on from the

1606
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 4: field and then Hook goes, can I just grab you

1607
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 4: in the room And I was like, yeah, what's up?

1608
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: Bud.

1609
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 4: He goes, oh, I would love to have told you,

1610
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 4: you know, I said, well, you fucking didn't.

1611
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 3: So it's all good.

1612
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 4: So it's part of business a and it was walked out.

1613
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 4: And then literally my missus like she's the worse because

1614
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 4: like she's funny, like she's But we played against the Sharks.

1615
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 4: My youngest is a mad Shark supporter because we were

1616
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 4: in the bubble with Crin and were there.

1617
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: Loves were loves.

1618
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 3: Ronaldo wearing number five jersey.

1619
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 2: That's cool.

1620
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 4: And then as I come out, who's my wife standing

1621
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 4: next to you with my son in the Shark's jersey?

1622
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 4: Fucking Hook's wife.

1623
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 2: So you're ready to fire up mate this flight? Yeah?

1624
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 4: And then as I'm walking down, I see those two players,

1625
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 4: and boys, when are we going to hung up and

1626
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 4: fucking do this deal?

1627
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1628
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 4: With that Mario. Literally next day I'm driving a mudgy

1629
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, mudgie for merely.

1630
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.

1631
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 4: That's the last time I sparked a look Jack and

1632
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 4: I played against last time.

1633
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay, So there's your worst. Now on the

1634
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: positive side, let's uh, who's your who's your best? Your

1635
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: favorite coach?

1636
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 4: I've had a couple obviously. You know how I get

1637
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 4: along with Flanner. Yeah, he lets me beat me and

1638
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 4: he encourages us to have a joke with him, and

1639
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 4: he's quite honest, very honest. You that's just refreshing. Yeah,

1640
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 4: like you know where you stand, Like if you have

1641
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 4: a shocker, we're not going to beat around the bush.

1642
01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 4: This is what we're going to work on. And if

1643
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 4: you have a good game, yeah you all right, let's

1644
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 4: just you know, he's pretty good with you. I love

1645
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 4: Tim Sheen's I learned how to play rugby league under Tim.

1646
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 4: You learn the fundamentals. A lot of times kids come

1647
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 4: to first grade they can't even pass left right. I

1648
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 4: don't know what feet to pass off, you know how

1649
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 4: to tackle, which feet to use. Tim was so thorough

1650
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 4: on all those little things. Have you ever had a

1651
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 4: conversation with Tim? Yeah, you can't get away side going

1652
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 4: Three hours later, mate, I was talking about I had

1653
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 4: a birthday party or I had a wedding to go to.

1654
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 4: We end up talking about a wedding for two minutes

1655
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 4: and then got back to rugby league like for another

1656
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 4: two hours. Like he just loves it. He lives and

1657
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 4: breathes it like That's what I was sort of surprised

1658
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 4: that the Tigers did move him more. I thought they

1659
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 4: would have put him to lower grades, maybe helped the

1660
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 4: young kids out in those pathway systems. But mate, he

1661
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 4: what you know to learn rugby league. Yeah, I know

1662
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 4: he's getting a bit older now and saying he's forgetting

1663
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 4: a few things, but just the little subtleties, like just

1664
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 4: the fundamentals of the game.

1665
01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 3: You learn so much from scientists.

1666
01:08:59,600 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: Mate.

1667
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 2: If I had to, if I had to nominate one player,

1668
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 2: one coach that I wasn't coached by that I wish

1669
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 2: I was, it'd be Schoons.

1670
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1671
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 2: I just loved. I love the type of football his

1672
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 2: sides played. I love the way that he would change

1673
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,600
Speaker 2: the game at times. I mean that the great the

1674
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 2: Green Machine, those great Raider sides when he took over,

1675
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 2: took over that the game what the game had been

1676
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 2: under the five meter rule, and they started to stretch

1677
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 2: him apart. So he took rugby league. At that point.

1678
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 2: He was smart enough to realize the game is going

1679
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 2: from the defensive era into an attacking era, and they

1680
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 2: started playing sidelines to sideline and then I'll never forget

1681
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 2: the football that two thousand and five side played fast,

1682
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 2: played fast, a lot of Engle middle angles and sidelined

1683
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 2: to sideline. It was just beautiful football and it changed

1684
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 2: the game.

1685
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 4: He's game plans. I've never seen anything like it. Nothing's

1686
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 4: ever come close from some of the game plans. And

1687
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 4: you know, like now they give you sheets. We used

1688
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 4: to have a whiteboard. He'd write everything out. You'd have

1689
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 4: to write it down, and then you'd have to rewrite

1690
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 4: hand back into him. He just wanted you to know

1691
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 4: what the game plan was. Now a lot of the

1692
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 4: times with coaches, they just get the spine, which is

1693
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 4: the nine seven, six and one in yeah made, And

1694
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 4: I'm going out there because I like lug with leg.

1695
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 4: I know what's happened a lot of the time. And

1696
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 4: we got on the field and we don't even know

1697
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 4: what we're doing this weekend. Yeah, you don't know what

1698
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 4: they Yeah, they don't sort of relay.

1699
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 3: They just say, we're just doing this with the ball.

1700
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 4: Tell us mate, Yeah, yeah, that's try get me sorry.

1701
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

1702
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 4: So when we go to these driels, like we know,

1703
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 4: all right, bang, I'm going straight into this one. We're

1704
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 4: going we know exactly what we're doing. And that's what

1705
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 4: Tim was really good at.

1706
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 2: I'll give you some things about Tim, how that they

1707
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 2: stopped him doing this, So Tim a revolutionary and experiment

1708
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 2: and changing the game, all this sort of stuff for

1709
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 2: a while there. When they used to play in home games,

1710
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 2: he used to have he used to have blokes sitting

1711
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 2: in the grand stand at either end, and what he'd

1712
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 2: do is he'd be on the walkie talking canber and

1713
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 2: get a penalty and he'd go and they'd either hold

1714
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 2: up one, two, three or four like that, and that

1715
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 2: Ricky go, look, this is what we're doing. They stopped

1716
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 2: him doing it, and then Ricky was the first half

1717
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 2: to be right plays and everything on the Yeah, that's

1718
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 2: what he used to do, remember, just quickly on that one.

1719
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 2: Just that made the Knight's experiment. Alan Bell, who worked

1720
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 2: with Sheensy for for a stint, Alan Bell wants, we

1721
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 2: had a thing where we used to hit sort of

1722
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 2: play tight and through the middle, hit the middle, and

1723
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 2: the me and Joey would split either side and just

1724
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 2: count numbers, and Belly wants experimented by saying, why don't

1725
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 2: we why don't we just put someone behind the posts

1726
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: sitting up and what happens as we're going there, he'll

1727
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 2: have hilly the gate. Just watch him and he'll go

1728
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 2: He'll count numbers for you and then go bang like

1729
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 2: the head that way, I said, mat, I said, ab

1730
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 2: but can't do it.

1731
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 4: We used to do Dewels training like so you'd start

1732
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 4: like say you get four defenders starting the line, but

1733
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 4: then he'd pull one out and you'd have to come

1734
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 4: up with a player to find that space. But then

1735
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,839
Speaker 4: but you would know so so so you four defenders,

1736
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 4: year five attackers, and you would go like say, there'll

1737
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 4: be like a green or red cone. You're to go

1738
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 4: to that cone, and then as you're getting there, you

1739
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 4: sort of have a quick look see which one's out,

1740
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 4: and you're to come up with say like a ninety

1741
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 4: one or then ninety two options.

1742
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we used to do a similar drill in Melbourne

1743
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: as well. It's very because it forces you to come

1744
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: up with it like that, like you only have a

1745
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: split second, which is realistic to a game speed, which is.

1746
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 2: An ability to communicate it. He was actually communicate.

1747
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 4: That's what he's big on as well. He was big

1748
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 4: on like if you're passing the ball, so say Maddie,

1749
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 4: and then if you're passing the me.

1750
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 3: I've got to get Maddie.

1751
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 4: Like always just communicate communication. Everyone joined, and then you

1752
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 4: do these little like in preseason. You you know you're

1753
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 4: getting flogged, you'd have to come up with a code.

1754
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 4: And if you don't come up, if you don't say

1755
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 4: the right code by the end of that session, so

1756
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 4: you have to. So he'll say to the one, but

1757
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 4: normally used to always say to the boat Ryan, and

1758
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 4: then he'd relate everybody else. And at the end of

1759
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 4: the session everyone you know, you know, sort of the

1760
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 4: big circle stretching down, he'll come up one like come

1761
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 4: in the middle, and you've got to say the right code.

1762
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 4: If not, you got to like a four and five.

1763
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 3: Oh god. So it was like always thinking yeah.

1764
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 4: But then back on those things, you know, those little

1765
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 4: funny things you said, like with the writ and down.

1766
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,839
Speaker 4: I remember two things when I had Cheeney he remembered,

1767
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 4: like night games he'd make I think Boyne did it.

1768
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 4: It looks so stupid. The old NFL paint. Oh yeah,

1769
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 4: that's why bow watched. I wouldn't the glare from the

1770
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 4: lights apparently to reflector, yes, And then he made the

1771
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 4: boys wear sweatbands the halves why so the sweat wouldn't

1772
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 4: get in the hand. Yeah, yeah, keep it, keep it away.

1773
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 4: So they had to have sweat bands and then tape

1774
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,759
Speaker 4: it down. Benji, Rob Louis and Farr.

1775
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 3: Had to wear it. So I go back in like

1776
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 3: twenty eleven and ten.

1777
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 2: We had a crack like that as well. But the

1778
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 2: problem with sweatband is you couldn't hold the ball in

1779
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 2: the claw quite as much. So then we went right,

1780
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 2: that doesn't work, so we did instead. I just get

1781
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 2: ankle tape. You tap your ankles. I just wrap that

1782
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 2: around my arm and then spin it the other way.

1783
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 2: So it was grit can hold the ball. The ball

1784
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 2: sometimes would just stick in my hand like that. It

1785
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 2: could be tricky because you actually throw a flick pass

1786
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 2: against Yeah.

1787
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 4: So every game I played, I wore it. Was for

1788
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 4: nothing pure than gripe. And in my first year Machines,

1789
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 4: he was one that made us wear it. One game

1790
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 4: I didn't wear it. I dropped the ball twice. And

1791
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 4: then when I'm doing one on one video machines and

1792
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 4: he goes, how was your preparation? It was really good,

1793
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 4: like you know, did everything properly. He goes, on watching

1794
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 4: your game, there's something different, and I'm like, I don't

1795
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 4: even know what's he goes.

1796
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 1: He got your arm bend on pick Wow.

1797
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 3: So that's why I always wore my armband.

1798
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 1: Just such good detail.

1799
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 3: He's so big on the little little one.

1800
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. Would you we're taking up too much

1801
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: of your time. But before we, before we, there's there's

1802
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: so much to get through with your career because you

1803
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: played its every different club. Right now, we spoke about

1804
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: your retirement the next five years because we were talking

1805
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: upstairs with your You're doing outstanding stuff at radio Triple LAMB.

1806
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 1: What's the next five years look like for Woods? Have

1807
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 1: you got? Have you got goals in the media that

1808
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 1: you want to achieve?

1809
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 4: Obviously you love to be part of the Triple M

1810
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 4: team for a long period of time. I enjoying doing

1811
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 4: the Fox stuff. I get to do three sixty. We're

1812
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 4: on like a rotating thing of those ex players doing

1813
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,719
Speaker 4: some commentary for the upcoming Pacific Champs.

1814
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: I've got I've got Fiji and Cook Islands. Yeah.

1815
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 3: So it's been good mate. I love it and one.

1816
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 4: Of my favorite things is the commentary. To be able

1817
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 4: to do that, I love it, and it's going to

1818
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 4: be different next. You've not been able to play, but

1819
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,759
Speaker 4: be able to commentate. That one thing is just following

1820
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 4: the right balance because you don't want to always come out.

1821
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 4: I've spoke to Matty about it. It's about like when

1822
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 4: you have a comment, when you make a comment or

1823
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 4: something or have an opinion. Look, it's not always going

1824
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 4: to be right or wrong, but some people might take

1825
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 4: it the wrong way. But this is just my opinion,

1826
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 4: Like I'm not having a go with someone. I had

1827
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 4: to make an opinion on the Azraeman thing the other

1828
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,759
Speaker 4: day and I just said what I feel.

1829
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 3: Look, that could be right, it could be wrong.

1830
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 4: But then you've got to sort of remember when you

1831
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 4: say things, don't make it personal. Just give the detail

1832
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 4: what I think. And that's a lot of people think that,

1833
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 4: oh you're off that bloke as you said that, or no, no, no,

1834
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 4: I'm just saying because I'm going to ask the question.

1835
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 3: But it's how you say that the answer.

1836
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a lot of the time very important, would

1837
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 4: very important.

1838
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 3: Don't you do?

1839
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 2: Not lose the human element someone and understand.

1840
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,520
Speaker 1: You've got kids now, I know. Yeah, there's nothing.

1841
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong wrong with criticism as long as it's measured.

1842
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 2: That's it, right, and what happened the temptation when people

1843
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 2: retire and you'll get this right, you'll get it. You'll

1844
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 2: get people involved with the radio and things like that.

1845
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 2: They'll try to maneuver you or say why don't you

1846
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 2: come in? That's what they want because it helps their rating.

1847
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,719
Speaker 2: For you woulds it. It will give you a sugar

1848
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 2: hit and people will talk about it for two weeks.

1849
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 2: Then guess what happens mate, people players will start to

1850
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 2: people will going, oh, make this bloke again. Always very

1851
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:50,719
Speaker 2: important to me. It's okay to criticize, but be measured.

1852
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 2: Constructive criticism.

1853
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 4: Well, that's it and pazz. You've got to remember, I

1854
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 4: want to get these books on the show. Yeah, play

1855
01:16:58,160 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 4: and someone's bagging me. I'm not going to go on

1856
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 4: at this bloke.

1857
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:01,679
Speaker 3: That's right, you know.

1858
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 1: But you know what I love listening to it woods

1859
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: you because how you are in the locker room, how

1860
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: you are with your family, how you are on air,

1861
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: it's all exactly the same. You just stay. I think

1862
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 1: that's the best piece of advice I got going into

1863
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: the media, was like, if you're in a ship mood,

1864
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,959
Speaker 1: if you're if you're sad, if you're angry, if you're hungover,

1865
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: just whatever kind of mood you're in, just be be

1866
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: who you are in it because people people listen and

1867
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: they see right through that ship when you're just faking.

1868
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

1869
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 4: My biggest thing is I like to talk if I'm

1870
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 4: at the pub having a beer and you know when

1871
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 4: you say you have a arm with a puntert yep,

1872
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 4: that's how I want to talk on radio, just given

1873
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 4: what I think.

1874
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: That's it.

1875
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 2: People people are, people are listening. They want to be entertained,

1876
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 2: and you know that's with my shows. I always say

1877
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 2: to the boys, it doesn't matter if we're going to

1878
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: talk serious football or we're going to take the piss.

1879
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 2: It just doesn't matter what we talk about. In fact,

1880
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 2: as long as it's entertained, that's it. That's it. As

1881
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 2: long as tensertaining and you just go.

1882
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what when I was one day, I

1883
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 4: was you know, you get the card and you're walking

1884
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 4: on the field. I've seen this one bloke and you're like,

1885
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 4: he's yelling at me, Sharon, is you a.

1886
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: Ship rugby league player?

1887
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 2: The funk?

1888
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: I love listening to you on Triple M. Thanks brother,

1889
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 1: I still get that all the time. Lucky you're better

1890
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 1: on the right than you are playing, and I actually

1891
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 1: enjoy hearing that. That's I love it.

1892
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 3: Thanks, brother, love the listeners, the three of us.

1893
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: So we'll do something good on you