WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 28 May 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:00.400 Lately. 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:04.680 Welcome to the Late Debase. 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:07.840 Thanks for joining us on the Late Debate. 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:11.040 I'm James Macpherson with Caleb Bond and freyer Leitch coming 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:14.080 up tonight. Our dope of the day A bloke tries 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:16.560 to set fire to a restaurant in Melbourne and only 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:18.760 succeeds in setting fire to himself. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:20.120 Will show you that later. 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:22.680 Plus, when we look at what's making news tomorrow, the 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:27.960 Coalition announce their shadow Cabinet and Victoria's machete Band results 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:31.840 in skyrotting, skyrocketing sales of machetes. 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.760 Who would have thought we'll get to all of that shortly. 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.159 But first, we live in a time where there are 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.600 wars and rumors of wars, and the latest rumor is 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:45.680 that Israel will soon attack Iran's nuclear facilities. The Israelis 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:49.159 believe that Iran, if they choose, could develop a nuclear 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:53.199 warhead within about a week. The Israelis also believe that 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:57.640 with Iran's air defense system currently in disrepair, there now 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:03.000 exists a window of opportunity to attack those nuclear facilities successfully. 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.959 But Donald Trump, who's involved in talks with Iran at 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.240 the moment, has asked the Israelis to. 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.640 If you will cool their jets. 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:16.600 In the Israel Times newspaper, it's said that officials report 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.960 Trump's message to Benjamin Netan Yahoo is that he doesn't 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:23.600 want him to antagonize Iran at a time when Trump 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.720 himself is trying to solve problems, and while he's keeping 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:30.039 the other option, that is an attack open. Trump wants 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:34.119 to give a chance to diplomatic talks before Benjamin Netan 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:38.240 Yahoo embarks on a military campaign. So the question becomes 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.120 talks or bombs Caleb, which one. 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.840 Well, I think talks in the first instance would be 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.200 the right thing to do. And of course Trump was 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.560 talking about this in read a couple of weeks ago 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:55.000 that he feels that the interventionist policy of previous administrations 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.800 has not worked. And I don't think you can argue 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.840 with that. I mean, I would defy anyone to tell 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.920 a single instance of the US interfering in the Middle 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.480 East that has actually worked. We can go through Libya, 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.240 we can go through Iraq, we can go through Afghanistan, 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:13.079 on and on you can go. It has never ever worked. 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.880 So Trump said, look, on the basis of that, I'm 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:17.960 going to give something else to go. I want to 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.640 have talks with Iran to see if we can do anything. 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.600 This is him talking about exactly this just a couple 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:24.880 of weeks ago, and reate. 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:27.560 I want to make a deal with Iran. 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:29.880 If they can make a deal with Iran, I'll be 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.800 very happy if we're going to make your region and 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:36.200 the world a safer place. But if Iran's leadership rejects 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:40.000 this alive branch and continues to attack their neighbors, then 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:44.799 we will have no choice but to inflect massive maximum 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:50.400 pressure drive Iranian oil exports to zero, like I did before. 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:53.600 Now. Of course, the background to this is that there 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:57.040 was a nuclear deal done with Iran in twenty fifteen, 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.840 and Trump pulled out of that in twenty sixteen because 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.440 he thought it was a bad deal, that it gave 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.680 too much leeway to Iran. So he pulled out and 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:09.200 put sanctions on Iran, and those sanctions were quite successful. 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.600 It has to be said. Then along comes Joe Biden. 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.639 He basically undoes all of it, gives hundreds of billions 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.120 of dollars to Iran, which they then promptly go and 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:21.839 give to their mates the hooties and etc. And we've 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:24.480 seen what the result was of that. So Trump has said, look, 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.160 I will try and negotiate my own deal, and if 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.600 you don't come to the table, I'll go hell for 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.560 leather against you. He wrote to the Iatola in March 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.720 and said, you come and talk to me and we 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:38.360 strike a deal, or I'll get my military onto you. 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.360 So he's very clear about where he's going. He's not 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:45.240 ruling out military intervention. He's simply saying, let's try a 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:48.680 way of doing this first that doesn't involve guns and bombs. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:50.080 And I think he's right to do so. 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:54.440 It's a nice idea to assume that we can negotiate 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:58.080 with all countries and that we somehow share a set 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.200 of values and common interests that mean can strike a deal. 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.720 But I just don't think this is realistic at all. 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.880 As you mentioned, there have been previous attempts and in fact, 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.880 previous nuclear deals with Iran, and they have all failed 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:15.200 because they benefit Iran lifting sanctions and then guess what, 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.200 they just go ahead and keep enriching uranium. 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:18.719 Anyway. 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:22.039 They're now enriching uranium at a sixty percent purity, which 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:25.240 is almost weapons great, and there is genuine reason to 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.160 believe that that's a possibility, and that would present an 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:31.359 existential threat to Israel. And I think the other challenge 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.200 here for Trump is he came in on this peace 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:38.840 through strength doctrine, which is essentially deterrence, right, But deterrence 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:42.560 relies on the enemy knowing that at some point you 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:47.240 might actually take actions, military actions against them. Hence why 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.240 they want to avoid conflict. So I guess the question 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:54.119 for Trump is if Iran rejects this nuclear deal, which 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.640 in all likelihood they will, what's he. 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:57.040 Going to do? 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.200 What is he going to do to shut down their 0:04:59.240 --> 0:04:59.880 nuclear weapons? 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.800 He's fuck concerned with Trump and talks because remember Trump 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.159 made a big deal of Hamas. When Trump comes in, 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.400 the hostages will be released. Otherwise he'll unleash hell will 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.839 Hamas are still in control of the Gaza Strip. The 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.039 same accusation could be made of Trump's negotiations with Putin 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:18.039 that Putin just doesn't seem to believe that Trump will 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.640 wield the stick as he says he will. And when 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.520 you're dealing with Iran, you said, can you negotiate with 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.360 other nations? But of course Iran is a very different nation. 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:31.080 It's basically a terrorist organization that run Iran and their 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.720 commitment to destroying Israel is not an idle threat. It's 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.320 a religious ideology, it's a worldview, and they've been making 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:41.400 threats for a long time now. Nobody wants war. But 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.000 you can't blame the Israelis for saying, how long will 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:47.520 we sit here while the leaders of Iran talk about 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.560 destroying us as they develop nuclear weapons. 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.960 At some point, enough talk. You've got to defend yourself. 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.080 Yeah, but if you don't give Trump a chance to 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.080 at least try and achieve something. And Trump's ultimate goal 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.280 is to achieve some level of stability in the Middle East, 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.200 and you're not even giving it a go. He's made 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.479 it clear, he told the Ayatoller, if you don't meet 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.440 my demands, I will get involved militarily. So he's already 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:10.360 put that on the table. 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.920 He also told He also told her mass if all 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.800 the hostages weren't released by the inauguration or hell would 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.440 break loose, and it didn't, so at some point he 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:19.760 has to back up these threats. 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:21.760 But you have to be somewhat reasonable in these things. 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:23.440 I mean, if you want full scale war in the 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.640 Middle East and I don't, then you can go in 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:28.400 and just start throwing bombs and stuff with it. 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:29.320 And everywhere right. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.920 Now agree with that characterization. It's not that you want 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:33.760 full scale war in the war. 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:34.240 In the Middle East. 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.719 It's you don't want a nuclear bomb going off in 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.400 the Middle East, and that's why you would engage in 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:43.760 a military action now to prevent the worst military action 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:44.880 down the track. 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.440 Of course, but that's also the point of achieving the deal, 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.320 is to prevent the nuclear bomb from being created. If 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.600 you are saying that there is no deal that can 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.840 be struck that will prevent a nuclear bomb from being created, 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.520 and that simply targeting their infrastructure at the moment will 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.400 prevent it, I mean that goes straight back to the 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.040 drawing board. They're not going to stop, so your only 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.000 other solution is to wipe you around off the face 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:06.680 of the planet. Do we want to do that? 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.000 That's what Irana threatening for Israel. So you can understand 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.960 why the Israelis but of course. 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.560 I understand that. But then you go and do it, 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.200 and then you end up with full scale war in 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.680 the Middle East. This is the problem is that you 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:21.440 don't actually genuinely solve anyim They'll go on for time 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.920 immemorial until we actually wipe someone off the face of 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.120 the planet, and no one really wants to have that 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:28.320 discussion because of war. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:32.640 Until IRA walk away from their ideological stamps, which they 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.120 never will. So at some point this blows up. Well 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:40.280 it is literally, and who chooses the timing of it? 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.600 Yeah, literally, it blows up. Let's move to some lighter 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:47.320 international news. We'll get into the details of King Charles's 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.520 visit to Canada very shortly, but I could not get 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.880 over this. Justin Trudeau, of course, until five minutes ago, 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.320 was the Prime Minister of Canada, so you would think 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.640 he has some standards, he has some understanding that when 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.840 you're meeting foreign diplomats and dignitaries, I mean, the king 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:07.200 of your country, the head of state of your country, 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.400 for heaven's sake, that you would dress up for the occasion. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.120 But apparently not, because take a look at this. This 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:16.880 is what Justin Trudeau rocked up to Parliament wearing today. 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.400 Look at his shoes. He's wearing sneakers, for goodness sake, 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:25.559 green sneakers that I mean seriously, he's wearing a suit. 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:27.400 So he's got to all that effort. He's put on 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:29.960 the shirt, he's put on the tie, he's put on 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.840 the suit, he's brushed his hair, and then he gets 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:34.680 to the shoes and he's like, now, I'm just going 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:36.800 to put my sneakers on today because I want to 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:38.720 go for a run before I go and see the King. 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.960 I mean, for goodness sake, there is no circumstance in 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.319 which you should wear sneakers or runners or whatever you 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.840 want to call them with a suit. If you're wearing 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:50.640 a suit, you should be wearing leather shoes or boots. 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.000 It's just the rules. If you go to all that effort, 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.600 make the effort to actually look decent, and you certainly 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.720 don't do it when you're going to work or parliament, or, 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.920 for heaven's sake, to meet the king. Standards have slipped 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:04.440 so much. 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.480 I disagree with you, Kelly. There is an you wear them, well, 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:09.160 I've got them on right now. But there is a 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.560 reason why you would wear sneakers at an event where 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.800 the king is speaking, and the reason is you want 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.360 everyone to look at you. How else to have the 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:19.640 attention on yourself when you've got the King of England there, Well, 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:20.800 you commit a. 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.839 Fashion faux pass such as he has done. 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.400 And what are we talking about Before we even get 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.480 to talking about what the King said. We're talking about 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.200 justin Trudeau mission accomplished, frail. 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.840 I don't even think the sneakers were the worst part 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.640 of this. I can tolerate sneakers. I'm a sneaker advocate. 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.760 But the main problem was the sneakers didn't even match 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:40.319 the suit. 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:41.160 He could have. 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:45.160 Gone for a tasteful white and nice navy something to compliment. 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.280 Hester and proved my point. They wanted to teach. 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.839 This is a clearly obvious move. He wanted to stand out, 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.480 he wanted to draw attention from the king, and he 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.319 didn't even Yeah, see that's look at that that green 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:58.600 in that blue they classed. 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.319 But it's the fact that this sneak is at all. 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.559 I don't care if the Navy or wife or whatever. 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:05.760 This is a hill I'm willing to die on. We 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:09.400 have to maintain some level of standards in this world 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.760 or we will end up in a place where everyone 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:15.280 goes to work in their pajamas. Before COVID, I didn't 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.959 wear a tie to work. But then you know, obviously 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:19.400 I was working from home for all that time, my 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:21.720 pajamas all bloody day, and I got sick of it, 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.640 so I started wearing a suit and tie to work 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:25.800 every day to create a contrast. And I think there 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.080 is something nice about that because it shows respect for 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:30.280 the people around something. 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.320 Were you wearing a suitain tie when you're working from home? 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.160 No, no, no no. When I went back to what you 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:37.680 were saying, you've got stuff at home, pajamas, the mood, 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:39.200 and I was like, I can't do this anymore. So 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:40.680 I wore a certain time of it. But it shows 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.080 respect to the people around you that I have put 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.520 in the effort to look good because I take my 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:49.160 job seriously and I take my workplace seriously, and I'm sorry, 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:53.439 going to work with your sneakers on makes it look 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.560 like you don't take the job seriously. If you walked 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.760 into an interview, I'm telling you, and you've got a 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.520 sneakers on, they will mark you down against the bloke 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.240 who has a suit and appear not. 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.560 Walking into the studio tonight wearing a T shirt or hoodie. 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:09.280 Did you sort of give me the side of it. 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.280 You've been doing it for two and a half hears, 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.800 so I'm kind of used to it now. But yes, 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:15.040 I would never do. 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:19.679 Fashion standards change over time. What people wear now, especially 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:23.840 post COVID. Most people don't even wear suits to work anymore. 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.840 I'm actually with Caleb that it was highly inappropriate, but 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:27.600 I know why he did it. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.080 Do you think it was inappropriate or do you think 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:29.920 it was okay. 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.640 For this occasion. I think it's inappropriate, but I defend 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:34.840 sneakers in suits. But let's move on and listen to 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:38.760 what the King said in the Canadian Parliament. Obviously, in 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.080 the lead up to the Canadian election, there was a 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.760 lot of tension with Trump saying that he wanted Canada 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.640 to become the fifty first state, and in fact, the 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.920 Prime Minister Mark Conney essentially turned the tide of the 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:54.040 election based on these threats from Trump. And so this 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.440 whole visit from King Charles could kind of be seen 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.560 as a way to reinforce Canada's position, and this is 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:00.839 what the had to say. 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:09.240 Canada Fairs is another critical moment. Democracy. Pluralism, the rule 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:15.360 of law, self determination, and freedom are values which Canadians 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:20.360 hold dear and ones which the government is determined to protect. 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:25.040 So kind of uneventful, kind of what you would expect 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:29.479 from a tour of its designed to reinforce Canada against America. 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.000 Kind of ridiculous though, don't you think. 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.240 I mean, the whole thing about Trump making Canada fifty 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.360 first state of the United States was always a joke. 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.200 He was ribbing them about their need to pay their 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:43.640 fair share. I'm just surprised that Charles took that seriously 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.800 and gave it sort of that kind of gravitus when 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.400 most thinking people realized Trump was just being Trump. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.800 Well, the thing is, King Charles didn't actually write this speech. 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:56.160 He was given the speech by the Prime Minister, and 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:59.400 the prime minister's whole mandate for reelection was to be 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.839 the anti Trump, pro Canada candidate. So he's now got 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.760 to keep up this facade that Canada is under threat 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:09.719 from the United States in order to maintain his political relevance. 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:10.719 Really, it's the. 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.120 Same as when the Governor General opens parliament here. 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.720 I mean, but he still chooses to read it some respect. 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.040 I'm sorry, it is convention that he reads. 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.120 It's like an invention that you speak the truth, you 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.600 don't speak rubbish because you've been told to. 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.160 No, you're making it sound like he's just there to 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:26.440 be a part. 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.280 Is essentially that like it is, it is. 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.360 Convention that the king or the head of stage or 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.840 the Governor General in whatever circumstances, reads the opening of 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.800 the Parliament from the government. It's not the words of 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.439 the king. It's not the words of the governor. 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.360 Should have rolled his eyes as he read it. 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.360 Look, look, you just we've learned that you have no 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.040 regard for tradition. Tonight. You think it's okay to wear 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:52.720 sneakers with your your suit and men. You think it's 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.640 it's it's okay to throw away all this tradition about 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:56.520 how we open our parlor. 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.520 It gets even worse because have a look at this 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.760 clip from King Cha. I was reading somebody else's speech 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:05.400 the acknowledgment of the traditional owners have listened. 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:09.200 I would like to acknowledge that we are gathered on 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:14.240 the unseeded territory of the Algonquin and the Shinabeg people. 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.400 It is my great hope that in each of your communities, 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:22.720 and collectively as a country, a path is found toward 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:27.120 truth and reconciliation in both word and deed. 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:28.920 Hang on, sower. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.160 The king just sat there and said, I'm the king 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:35.240 of unseeded territory. So is that a dig or is 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.600 it an admission that maybe he shouldn't be there? 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.560 Well, what does that make him a conqueror? Like I'm 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.600 not actually sure and what legitimacy does he have now? 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.640 And the fact is Canada is even more clear than 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:50.320 Australia because they've had treaties with the indigenous people as 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:54.440 far back as the seventeen hundreds. It is well documented 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:58.920 they've had an extensive history of land sales and treaties. 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.360 So the whole thing honestly preposterous. 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.800 Well, I mean it was a humiliation ritual really that 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:08.040 they put the king through there, and the sad thing 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.040 is that he actually has to rock up and do it, 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:10.320 you know. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.160 Well literally just made by point hit. 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.200 But he's a figure hit. I mean, the monarch is 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.600 always a figurehead. We know that that's not you, James, 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.280 but it is. It's almost like, at the same time 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.320 as they're trying to use the King to send a 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.960 message to the United States, back off. You know, you're 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.080 you're not going to be one of us, because we're 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:28.920 not going to be one of you because we're part 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.560 of the Commonwealth. While they're using the King to do that, 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.040 they're at the same time humiliating him by making him 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.480 say that he's on unseated land. I mean, you know, 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:39.920 have some respect for the guy if you want him 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:41.440 to be useful for you when you want him to 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:41.880 be useful. 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.680 So all of a sudden, justin Trudeau sneakers were not 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.400 the most disrespectful part of it. 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:48.600 There were many disrespectful parts. 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.200 And honestly, it was so funny looking at all the 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.280 reactions to this on X because I've never seen so 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:59.440 many leftists supporting the monarchy as they are now. It's 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.720 crazy to see. But let's move on now to Victoria, 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:08.720 where the chief executive of Santos has compared Victoria to 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.680 North Korea. Take a listen to this. 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.320 But if I think about Queensland, Northern Territory, South Australia, 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:21.760 Western Australia, these are actually very supportive jurisdictions, They're. 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:22.880 Very development friendly. 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:29.080 Victoria, Victoria, North Korea, They're in a different categories altogether. 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:34.560 I mean, is he wrong when you have blanket bans 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:38.040 on gas connections in new homes and businesses, it is 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:44.520 essentially uninvestible, extensive government control over almost every aspect of 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:45.520 the gas industry. 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:46.920 He might be right, No. 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:50.520 I think it's very unfair on North Korea to say that. 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.000 He went on to say if he had a dollar 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.440 to invest in Australia or in Papua New Guinea in 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.360 the same circumstance, the same business, he wouldn't hesitate to 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.760 spend that in Parpa New Guinea because he was confident 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:05.560 that he could get the project approved and finished. He 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.600 had no such confidence regarding Victoria. I must say he 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.359 copped a lot of stick for that comment. Victoria's Energy 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:16.639 minister called him hysterical and said that the comment was unhinged, 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.200 and he later joked he said, maybe I shouldn't have 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.080 said that, Perhaps I need some more media training. But 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.280 I think he's handled that very well. He's got a 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.639 headline that's in all the major newspapers and made his 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:31.600 point it's very difficult to do business in Victoria and 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.760 increasingly companies such as his, which is one of the 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.840 largest energy companies in the country just choosing not to. 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.400 And Gallagher is a straight shooter and a very good 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.600 operator and has been a very good boss at Santos, 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.080 and you can hardly blame him. I mean, I think 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.200 we've all seen Gcinta Amen or should it be Jinto 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.520 jong Un recently. I think we've got a photograph of 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:56.040 her here there we go and it's not real. I 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:57.720 don't need to point that out, but that's sort of 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:01.760 where Victoria is going. And you can't forget the Andrews 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:05.080 government in twenty seventeen put a ban on gas exploration 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.400 in Victoria and that went through to twenty twenty one. 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:11.359 It's still banned. Fracking and Colson gas exploration is still 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:15.080 banned in Victoria. And so of course even people who 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.800 want to invest in Victoria are like, well, why would 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:21.560 I bother? Because you know the government's already done at once, 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.639 so they could always do it again and say no, 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:28.160 gas exploration is off. And just from every perspective, it's 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.760 so difficult to invest in Victoria. We talked last night. 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.520 I think it was about the treasure of Jacqueline Sim's 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:37.199 asking a property council breakfast what their favorite tax was, 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:40.159 which was a great window into exactly how they are thinking. 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.520 But you know, you want to talk about tax land 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:47.800 tax in Victoria. For instance, my accountant, good Evening, mister Morgan, 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.439 has a client who had a property in Melbourne, not 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.439 a principal place of residence, but an investment property on 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:57.159 a sizeable piece of land, and the land tax on 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.400 that property used to be five thousand dollars. Of course, 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.600 Daniel Andrew's changed the rules around land tax and changed 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:06.280 it from the threshold was three hundred k down to 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:09.159 fifty k for a value of property, et cetera. The 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.760 land tex on that property is now forty two thousand dollars. 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:14.280 So a few years ago it's five thousand, now it's 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.560 forty two thousand. So why would you invest in property 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.960 in Victoria? Why would you invest in gas exploration when 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.439 until five minutes ago it was banned to do so 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:28.000 It's like they don't want people to invest in Victoria, 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.160 which is so dumb, because it's the only way they'll 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:34.120 ever get themselves out of the great debtthole in which 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.720 they find themselves is to get real business and investment 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.919