WEBVTT - Round 8 Takeaways

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<v Speaker 1>She's a big game for Peddrick this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Coops Magic Round on Sunday against the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought they were back.

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<v Speaker 4>Against the US, and we spoke about some of the

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<v Speaker 4>penh like traits, but again, unmanly. Look, they're just they're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to do the same things. And to be fair

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<v Speaker 4>in their defense, it's held them up for a long

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<v Speaker 4>period of time. But just trying to replicate the same

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<v Speaker 4>thing with some players not being able to do it

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<v Speaker 4>as well or required to the level is forcing some

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<v Speaker 4>of their better players to try and do a lot more.

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<v Speaker 4>And they look a little bit like, not not out

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<v Speaker 4>of answers, but they look very frustrated with you. They

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<v Speaker 4>are trying hard, but it's just not turned that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you think about all the things that are

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<v Speaker 2>underpins this, Like we can talk about things every week,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, in themselves, I'll be questioning will Ivan

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<v Speaker 2>to be questioned.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, motivation the.

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<v Speaker 2>Fire and the belly, because the fire in the belly

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<v Speaker 2>is not an eternal flames. Sometimes you know it's subsides. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is a scene that it's going for

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<v Speaker 2>five comps in a row. It's been remarkable and the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of football they've played. But there are certain things

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<v Speaker 2>coops that we have spoken about for quite a while

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<v Speaker 2>that we've seen slowly creeping into the game, and we

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<v Speaker 2>understand as playmakers. Sometimes he can get into certain habits

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<v Speaker 2>and we've spoken about this, and I'll talk about Nathan

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<v Speaker 2>specifically here, but we've said for a while. I find

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<v Speaker 2>those cross shapes like that, I find them dangerous. Now

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean by dangerous is you're not in the

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<v Speaker 2>short I'm talking about what it starts to do to

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<v Speaker 2>playmakers in the long term.

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<v Speaker 1>What actually starts.

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<v Speaker 2>To happen is you start to get into that mode

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<v Speaker 2>of going across and you start if you're not careful,

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<v Speaker 2>you start to lose your upfield.

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<v Speaker 4>Punch when your hips are east west, for example, as

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<v Speaker 4>opposed to north south. But you become less effective as

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<v Speaker 4>a course player. Right, So whether you can run across

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<v Speaker 4>field four or five times doesn't matter, but you need

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<v Speaker 4>to assay stage, get your hips back to square, to

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<v Speaker 4>the defensive line, and then be able to move.

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<v Speaker 3>That's one aspect.

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<v Speaker 4>The other part to Penrith is they've won four in

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<v Speaker 4>a row because of their defense, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>on the weekend the right side of Manly went after

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<v Speaker 4>that left edge of Penrith.

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<v Speaker 3>Now their right edge.

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<v Speaker 4>Penriith's right edge defensively is Martin, Cleary, tungueor and Alamody

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<v Speaker 4>experienced guys who have done it before. Their left edge

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<v Speaker 4>is to Lungy, McLean and Jenkins inexperience and manly went

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<v Speaker 4>after it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now. I think what might.

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<v Speaker 4>Need to happen at Penrith is maybe move a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of players around. You're not moving Nathan because he's the

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<v Speaker 4>right sided player, but you might have to move Tongue

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<v Speaker 4>or Martin just to balance it out until sort of

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<v Speaker 4>comes back. But that's one thing that I reckon Penrith

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<v Speaker 4>probably need to do.

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<v Speaker 2>The food you suit, the frustration and attack that is

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<v Speaker 2>producing errors and then the errors at the moment they're

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<v Speaker 2>unable to absorb.

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<v Speaker 1>Their defense used.

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<v Speaker 4>To be able to they didn't have the errors, and

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<v Speaker 4>now they weren't.

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<v Speaker 3>They were able to defend the errors too.

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<v Speaker 2>And it is it is trainspotting what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, as playmakers, you know that, you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>you said before about the hips I always found. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we at Newcastle in the mid ninety we started playing

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of those shapes, dropping under, dropping under and

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly I found myself I lost matfield punch. I'm playing

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<v Speaker 2>sideways all the time. It took a fair bit to

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<v Speaker 2>correct that. And one of the things that was important

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<v Speaker 2>to me is on reception outside, foot up, catch early,

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<v Speaker 2>and do not let this shoulder roll across, because as

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<v Speaker 2>we said that, when the shoulder rolls across, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>go back.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the shoulder rolls, it means the hips are out

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<v Speaker 1>of position.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was little cues like that trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>that little bit of punch back into the game.

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<v Speaker 4>The reason why we talk about hips as well is

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<v Speaker 4>if I'm trying to go down the field and my

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<v Speaker 4>eyes follow my hips, I will see a lot more

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<v Speaker 4>in what I can run, pass or take on. If

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<v Speaker 4>I start turning sideways, I'm then losing a big chunk

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<v Speaker 4>of what I can do on the inside.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether it's a pass.

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<v Speaker 4>Or a right foot back inside depend on which side

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<v Speaker 4>the field you are. So yeah, a couple of things there,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're they're easily fixed.

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<v Speaker 3>For someone like Nathan, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can most yeah, yeah, because I think how you adjusted,

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<v Speaker 2>how you fix it. You don't fix it on the

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<v Speaker 2>run during the game. It's something that you have to

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<v Speaker 2>get to training. And you run certain drills to go okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get the squeness. And some of those drills you

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<v Speaker 2>do were like the ones that we used to do

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, as simple as throwing hats out ABC ruck

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<v Speaker 2>ABC and actually start to fill yourself getting the targets

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<v Speaker 2>for fender square and.

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<v Speaker 4>Then on flip side, they're becoming predictable. Because we spoke

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<v Speaker 4>about this before, is that defenses now aren't going sideways

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<v Speaker 4>when they drop off front it comes, They're going forward

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<v Speaker 4>to stop that forward momentum. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what the dogs, the Broncos. Broncos really

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<v Speaker 1>impressed me, you Madges. Some of the things that they've.

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<v Speaker 2>Done with their attack really impressed me in the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they're up against the Bulldogs side who are a

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<v Speaker 2>smaller pack, and their defense, like the way they defend

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<v Speaker 2>a fast moving defense and they almost a swarming defense.

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<v Speaker 2>They operate like hyaenas make sense and you go okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're a smaller pack, you've got to control

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<v Speaker 2>the ruck.

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<v Speaker 1>Right to beat a big sidelight Prisbane.

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<v Speaker 2>And the really thing that I've found clever that Madge

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<v Speaker 2>did was using his big guys off playmakers like Adam

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<v Speaker 2>Reynolds went across quite a bit and dropped Willison off

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<v Speaker 2>and blokes like hass That actually got them one on

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<v Speaker 2>one tackles and allowed them to punch through little things

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<v Speaker 2>like that. So that just been manufactured, those one on

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<v Speaker 2>one tackles.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think Michael maguire did a lot of the

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<v Speaker 4>work during the week from Monday to Friday to win

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<v Speaker 4>this game for his team. Dogs have been up for

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<v Speaker 4>a long period of time and that fast moving defense.

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<v Speaker 4>What he did was find the pocket that is stepped back,

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<v Speaker 4>get big bodies to go through that pocket, play the

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<v Speaker 4>ball quickly, then tack them on the next one, not

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<v Speaker 4>try and necessarily do it on that one. So it

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<v Speaker 4>was like a shot shot mentality from the Brison Broncos.

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<v Speaker 4>And when Milcol Mguire's teams play well, they are physically

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<v Speaker 4>aggressively ready to go from the go from the start,

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<v Speaker 4>and they were.

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<v Speaker 1>When we see the difference like the week before.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy that really symbolized it for me was Bennie

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<v Speaker 2>Hunt because the week before, Bennie would have gone off

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<v Speaker 2>and go, jeez, I didn't know I could play that bad,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know.

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<v Speaker 1>What I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>He was really frustrating himself and there's no doubt through

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<v Speaker 2>the week Madge that he gave him a ticklub because

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<v Speaker 2>there was a little moment in the game. It led

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<v Speaker 2>up to a try, there was a loose ball and

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<v Speaker 2>Mate Ben Hunt just come out of nowhere and come

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<v Speaker 2>up with it. It wasn't a fifty to fifty ball,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a seventy to thirty. He had a thirty

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<v Speaker 2>percent chance of coming up with he found a way

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<v Speaker 2>to get it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's because Madger probably hit him in the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>the players between the eyes. I like what the Dogs

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<v Speaker 4>are doing. They've got their identity and they will win

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of games this year. But the key thing

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<v Speaker 4>for the Dogs is when a big pack of forwards

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<v Speaker 4>like the Broncos all the Melbourne Storm. Can they stop

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<v Speaker 4>that big pack and win a big game? But that

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<v Speaker 4>will ulderly be the storyline of the Dogs the whole year.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing too, Mate, is for the Dogs

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<v Speaker 2>and there's some young players on that side. It's managing

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<v Speaker 2>the hype and the excitement because with every win, the

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<v Speaker 2>excitement is just rising and the expectation rises with that,

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<v Speaker 2>and suddenly people have gone away from saying can the Dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>Can the Dogs make the finals again? To well can

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<v Speaker 2>the Dogs play top four to now? Can the Dogs

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<v Speaker 2>win the comp? And that's for young players. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>feel bit to take on.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think they've got the game style too, it's

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<v Speaker 4>just that managing that and the physicality battle. They've done it,

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<v Speaker 4>but can they do it for a month up against

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<v Speaker 4>Let's say they've got to beat Brisbane and Melbourne to

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<v Speaker 4>get to Grand Four.

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<v Speaker 3>That will be the challenge for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about a couple of young players of the course

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<v Speaker 2>of the weekend. Firstly, the most obvious one who's been

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<v Speaker 2>spoken about more than any other player in the last

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks, like a Galvin.

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<v Speaker 3>What's happened there?

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently some contracts.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff going on yes yesterday he went out there likehard

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<v Speaker 2>Oval speaking of people are.

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<v Speaker 1>There the.

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<v Speaker 2>Bronx cheers going on a little bit jeering at the start,

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<v Speaker 2>but that started to side set up at try early.

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<v Speaker 2>Showed his mental toughness yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Some other people are off contract this year too.

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<v Speaker 4>They I like how Galvin delivered because a kid his

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<v Speaker 4>age handling everything that happened, He didn't hesitate like he

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<v Speaker 4>actually went and was directed at the game that tri

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<v Speaker 4>assist there. He was just his excitement to be a

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<v Speaker 4>part of it is something that he should hold on to.

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<v Speaker 4>The one thing I will say is that there was

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<v Speaker 4>talk around him and during the week about having grievances

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<v Speaker 4>with Benji's coaching or whatever. I can tell by the

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<v Speaker 4>way that this kid plays that he doesn't with respect

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<v Speaker 4>think deeply about the way he plays.

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<v Speaker 1>He just does.

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<v Speaker 4>For example, he'll get the ball on tackle one and

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<v Speaker 4>just kick it without any context of what else.

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<v Speaker 3>Is going on.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a couple occasions of the weekend, but that first

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<v Speaker 4>try that he set up like it's just doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Things when he wants to do things.

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<v Speaker 4>He's very very effective at it, so very good performance

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<v Speaker 4>for a kid that most other people in his position

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<v Speaker 4>would be stand out of the contest from word go

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<v Speaker 4>went straight to it. It's a feather in his cap.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, yeah, let me speak about this last week.

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<v Speaker 2>He's of course not a seven, but he's not exactly

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<v Speaker 2>a pure six either. He does remind me of a hybrid,

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<v Speaker 2>almost like a six thirteen, because for me, he looks

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<v Speaker 2>like a player. Well, here is a player seven playing

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<v Speaker 2>through seven. No, I don't see him as a seven.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got When Monster arrived as a young kid, he

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<v Speaker 4>just did things and we've spoken about this. As you

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<v Speaker 4>develop as a young player, particularly as a half, when

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<v Speaker 4>you just do things and someone comes up to you,

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<v Speaker 4>so how do you do that?

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<v Speaker 3>And you and I just did it because I ran

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<v Speaker 3>the ball right.

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<v Speaker 4>In five years time, I think this young man is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be more more footy, IQ aware. He's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to work through like months is doing

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<v Speaker 4>now to explain exactly how things unfolded. So I think

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<v Speaker 4>there's heaps of opportunity for Lockie Galvin in five years time.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't be putting the shackles on you. They couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>play half back. But yeah, I understand where you're coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we talk about the Sharks and that sort of

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<v Speaker 2>crazy golden point period, I just want to talk with

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<v Speaker 2>another young player the Warriors. Halasinma, that young guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>been coming off the bench. He actually started, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the other night.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy, my god, he's got some natural ability to

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<v Speaker 1>this play.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a little thing he does here right there,

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<v Speaker 2>talk about train spotting stuff. This is just a little thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but the level of his skill away. He plays the

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<v Speaker 2>football coops and he plays it. He's a left hand carry,

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<v Speaker 2>but he jumps up and he plays the ball, he

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<v Speaker 2>carries it with his left hand, he plays it with

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<v Speaker 2>his right foot. Now that this is only at only

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<v Speaker 2>a little thing, but do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like it that takes that.

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<v Speaker 1>Takes a lot of skill to that, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>skill and coordination.

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<v Speaker 4>It does.

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<v Speaker 3>But they played on Anzac Day.

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<v Speaker 4>You probably had Anzac Day breakfast beers that games at

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<v Speaker 4>eight o'clock at night. Are you watching that?

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<v Speaker 2>I just think something like that, coops.

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<v Speaker 1>I just find that. I just find that fascinating. That

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to I'm really showing myself a bit.

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<v Speaker 4>All the things you can pick up on a rugby

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<v Speaker 4>leaking field.

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<v Speaker 3>It amazes me.

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<v Speaker 2>I get there sometimes and even like I see a

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<v Speaker 2>right foot to play the ball with his left foot

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<v Speaker 2>and I, god, that's clever. And when I saw this

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<v Speaker 2>Jumblow do this, I thought, my goodness, that's clever.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's watch it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's watch it again.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, that's pretty a good pick up.

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<v Speaker 1>From I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But you are right about two up and business oh,

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<v Speaker 2>by the time the time all seams play the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>by the time the third game came around, two got

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<v Speaker 2>some interesting points on the Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 1>It make the sharky. It was it for him?

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<v Speaker 2>It was well under the tig's really important win for them.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Sharks look back fit to me the other

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<v Speaker 2>day and you know, just just that composure in the

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<v Speaker 2>last ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And it's hard to teach this as a game

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<v Speaker 4>management thing because you almost have to deliver it by

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<v Speaker 4>trial and error. Be comfortable with losing to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to handle victory, if that makes sense. But as a

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<v Speaker 4>rule of thumb, like when you get to the ten

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<v Speaker 4>minute mark in a tight game and you feel like

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<v Speaker 4>you're struggling to score points, you maybe try for the

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<v Speaker 4>try and if you don't, set back in the middle

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<v Speaker 4>and just take the shot, start ticking over that school board.

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<v Speaker 4>If you get inside five minutes, take the shot whenever

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<v Speaker 4>you can. Don't finest the ball sideways, because the more

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<v Speaker 4>passes you add, the more risk comes into play, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you lose your opportunitie. So I just feel like

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<v Speaker 4>Fitzi and the Sharks in terms of that spine. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know why people, while you pass the ball one way,

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<v Speaker 4>move the other way and then put yourself under more pressure.

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<v Speaker 4>Rule number one, if you're in the position with the

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<v Speaker 4>best shot, take it back yourself back yourself. Don't worry

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<v Speaker 4>about the result, focus on technique. But then if you

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<v Speaker 4>do get pressure, you have to have option too. I

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<v Speaker 4>understand that, but that's the easiest course to victor is

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<v Speaker 4>get the ball the best kicker and kick the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>W was your sweet spot, coops, because there's a certain area,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I thought, a couple of times they took the

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<v Speaker 2>ball too far to the lone like.

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<v Speaker 1>A crowded nicker. Never gave Nicko enough time.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon the sweet spot is around that twenty meters

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five meters.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's two parts to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you don't want to be inside ten, so sort

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<v Speaker 4>of ten meters off fifteen meters off, so you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Kicking the ball twenty twenty five meters.

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<v Speaker 4>One thing I used to work inside thirty meters is

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<v Speaker 4>you don't get an extra point for kicking at four

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<v Speaker 4>hundred rows into the ground. All you need to do

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<v Speaker 4>is kick it straight between two sticks, So keep it simple.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't sort of bend it out to the right and

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<v Speaker 4>sort of big hit it with a big three iron.

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<v Speaker 3>Just poke it over and get it there.

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<v Speaker 4>The other part that is probably key is teams need

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<v Speaker 4>to get their best play the baller to run at

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<v Speaker 4>the play before the show. Don't have the lethargic front rower.

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<v Speaker 4>I get there be sloppy play.

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<v Speaker 3>The ball.

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<v Speaker 4>For Storm Slater was really good because you had footwork

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<v Speaker 4>and speed. At the Roosters it was Boyd Cordner good

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<v Speaker 4>carry on the short side and left hand side the

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<v Speaker 4>field and kick the ball to the right hand side

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<v Speaker 4>of the post. There's a couple of things at the

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<v Speaker 4>Sharks and to be fair, the Tigers need to work

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<v Speaker 4>through scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a couple of interesting setups. So there was

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<v Speaker 2>the one with the Tigers where they literally threw the

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<v Speaker 2>ball back thirty or something to Adam.

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<v Speaker 5>Dewey curbs the Melbourne Storm, like we talk about them

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<v Speaker 5>all a lot spine, but I don't know my time

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<v Speaker 5>RABA League, i've seen a side play so straight the

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<v Speaker 5>spine in combination.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just an example here with the set and

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<v Speaker 2>an example that the more they get, the more they

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<v Speaker 2>get forward, the more momentum, the straighter they play. And

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<v Speaker 2>you'll see here Anderson just sort of pokes his nose

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<v Speaker 2>and this is where the role starts. So he gets

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<v Speaker 2>forward finally, and the next guy forward punches through and

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<v Speaker 2>the next one right, playing real straight again and then

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<v Speaker 2>look the foots in the door, mate, But you know

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<v Speaker 2>they're not going to push. They don't worry about pushing

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<v Speaker 2>the ball sideways. The more momentum there is, the straighter

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<v Speaker 2>they play.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that's really good ballplaying there from drum Hughes,

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<v Speaker 4>because when you're play inside to it doesn't matter who

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<v Speaker 4>it is, and they create a little bit of rock speed.

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<v Speaker 4>Once you see a marker down second one being late.

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<v Speaker 4>Before you get the ball in your hands, your eyes

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<v Speaker 4>see something inside, so your first instinct is talk about

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<v Speaker 4>Nathan in his.

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<v Speaker 3>North south hips.

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<v Speaker 4>If you turn to the sideline, you're going to miss

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<v Speaker 4>that because your eyes turned right. So I always thought

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<v Speaker 4>when you play inside, your first look is to play

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<v Speaker 4>inside again and if it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>On, I'm going outside.

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<v Speaker 4>And as soon as Jerome Hughes got that footy, everything

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<v Speaker 4>said to me, he's going to go back inside and

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<v Speaker 4>the big right foot they just stood off him and

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<v Speaker 4>he went right foot back.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you think of their performance?

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<v Speaker 2>Just like on the weekend, I look at it. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's the last two weeks has been obvious to me.

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<v Speaker 2>What a whole Harry Grant Love not not just in leadership,

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<v Speaker 2>but just what he does in there around those rucks.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I thought there was once the whole Latrell Ji

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<v Speaker 4>Gray who's playing where thing worked out and Ji Gray

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<v Speaker 4>was playing five eight, but defendant left center Jerome Hughes

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<v Speaker 4>and started getting some early ball out to Nick Minnie.

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<v Speaker 4>And what that meant is they started going lateral too early.

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<v Speaker 4>In my mind, what they should have done is that

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<v Speaker 4>penetrate through the middle. A couple of short passes then

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<v Speaker 4>attacked Joy Gray to twenty five minutes into the game

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<v Speaker 4>or sixty minutes into the game, got him feeling like

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<v Speaker 4>they're not coming towards me, they're attacking.

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<v Speaker 2>And e fact well, and that's the thing, isn't like

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at the way Harry plays, when the

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<v Speaker 2>foot's in the door, Harry will scooting start to go.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you're a playmaker, you haven't got a choice.

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<v Speaker 2>If he's going to you've just got to go straight away.

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<v Speaker 2>The Raiders that when you win a game like that yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, that that was a bizarre game. As

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<v Speaker 2>far as the Dolphins concerned, that was just about the

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<v Speaker 2>best half of football I've seen them play. And their

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<v Speaker 2>second half was a bloodger. The Raiders was a thirty point.

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<v Speaker 2>That sort of win you go away, and that's when

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<v Speaker 2>that that sort of win gives you that sense that

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<v Speaker 2>made sense of destiny.

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<v Speaker 1>If it makes sense like this could be our Susan.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the Dolphins in terms of whisping about Isakah

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<v Speaker 4>Carte here. That combination with him and Nick rim run

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<v Speaker 4>that first half, some of the call it nuances, some

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<v Speaker 4>of the like sort of really cool ballplaying movements to

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<v Speaker 4>create space for one another was spot on. And then

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<v Speaker 4>the Raiders in the second half. What Ricky should do

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<v Speaker 4>is watch that over again, and that is their identity.

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<v Speaker 4>They are a big pack of forwards and when they

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<v Speaker 4>create momentum, do not shift the football, short pass run,

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<v Speaker 4>short pass run and just bang down.

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<v Speaker 3>That front door.

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<v Speaker 1>They can play through an opposition.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just about as good as anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Given the fact, and we said this numerous times, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not just a big pack. They're a fast pack.

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<v Speaker 2>They're fast and they've all got footwork.

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<v Speaker 4>So Jamal will be the key to that because you've

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<v Speaker 4>got Tarpney, public Harseber or whatever banging down the front door,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's the indicator that says I'm either going to shift.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to stay here.

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<v Speaker 4>What he needs to do is get Ethan Strange to

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<v Speaker 4>be running the ball. But then also if he wants

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<v Speaker 4>to do a little bit of movement, get those athletic

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<v Speaker 4>outside backs back through the middle again, because that's what

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<v Speaker 4>they're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of short passes, but get them back through.

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<v Speaker 4>So when I say about when they bang down the

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<v Speaker 4>front door, don't go pass past to go around him.

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<v Speaker 4>If that shows up, then take it, but you should

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<v Speaker 4>be going back to where the damage was done.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I've got another thing for you, not just the

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<v Speaker 2>left hand carry, right foot player that you obviously were

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<v Speaker 2>mocking me about, but there's another one here. Like Maddie

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<v Speaker 2>and Nicholson who he's burned revelation, you know, he's such

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<v Speaker 2>the way he can operate with playmakers really really impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>But like a lot of English back rowers, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>a great instinct how to score a try. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>natural try scorer. And there was a moment in the

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<v Speaker 2>game the other day. It was the lead up, end

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<v Speaker 2>up leading up to their first try for the Raiders

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<v Speaker 2>and Ethan Strains gets the ball on the left right

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<v Speaker 2>and it's pretty timendous past the far past Nicholson's way

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<v Speaker 2>out of the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>But Nicholson because.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got those great score try scoring instincts and he

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<v Speaker 2>knows how his playmakers work.

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<v Speaker 1>You watch and what you start see as.

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<v Speaker 2>Strange is making his way back in left foot, left foot, left,

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone else is sort of sitting back waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>the next plate. Nicholson senses something and just starts running

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<v Speaker 2>down the middle of the field and if Stranger would

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<v Speaker 2>beat one more bloke, he might score Runder the past.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, It's just a little thing, but it shows

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<v Speaker 2>me Nichols is not just his instincts, but he's a

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<v Speaker 2>natural football.

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<v Speaker 4>It's funny when you're talking about the relationship between halves

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<v Speaker 4>and back rowers. When you've got a footy IQ smart

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<v Speaker 4>back rower, they are the time and intent when you

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<v Speaker 4>go to the line is sending me to perfect every time,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a ballplayer allows you to start passing the

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<v Speaker 4>ball around to other people knowing that they're always going

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<v Speaker 4>to be there, so you can have the big one,

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<v Speaker 4>big powerful one, or the smart one. And Maddie Nicholson

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<v Speaker 4>is that smart footy IQ that time and intent knows

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what good part of the hole to be in

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<v Speaker 4>and when he sees reaction, he can see something unfolding

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<v Speaker 4>and push together.

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<v Speaker 2>Hudson on the other side, Yeah, who just continues to fight. Yeah,

0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:03.360
<v Speaker 2>he's such a dangerous background and coops just something here.

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<v Speaker 1>All the high shots.

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<v Speaker 2>And as a consequence, there's so we're seeing so much

0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:14.879
<v Speaker 2>of thirteen against twelve, and there's some sides that you

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<v Speaker 2>can see as soon as they get twelve they know

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<v Speaker 2>how to play against twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Others get a little bit lost.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just not sort of one size fits all, because

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<v Speaker 4>if a left winger goes down or sent to the sinbin,

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<v Speaker 4>it's different how you would attack that position than a

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<v Speaker 4>front rower going off the field.

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<v Speaker 3>For example, Teams need to start attacking weaknesses.

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<v Speaker 4>When I mean weaknesses, Let's say a half goes to

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<v Speaker 4>sinbin and they move a bigger edge back roll to

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<v Speaker 4>defend three in. Get someone speedy like Rees Walsh or

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<v Speaker 4>Kaylen Ponger and give them one on one with that

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<v Speaker 4>back roll.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's defending on the edge.

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<v Speaker 4>If a winger goes off the field for a high

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<v Speaker 4>shot and it's a smaller center that goes out there,

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<v Speaker 4>take the opportunity to shift to that side the field.

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<v Speaker 4>More times than not in that set, and if in doubt,

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<v Speaker 4>kick the ball over to them to catch the amount

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<v Speaker 4>on the fifth place. There's a bit of footy IQ

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<v Speaker 4>that needs to go into on the flip side. I

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<v Speaker 4>think if you'll go down to twelve, you can't just

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<v Speaker 4>wave the white flag, right. You've got to do a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of things. Just keep this game a chance of

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<v Speaker 4>you winning. One, you cannot score point, let points be conceded.

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<v Speaker 4>Two you've got to control that clock. Yeah, you've got

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<v Speaker 4>to keep possession. If you give away penalties, you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to be under pressure. Wind down that clock. But how

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<v Speaker 4>do you scored points when you're down to twelve players.

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<v Speaker 3>That's something that you need to consider because you.

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<v Speaker 4>Can't run your same shapes and plays and expect to

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<v Speaker 4>outnumber the opposition.

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<v Speaker 1>We used to crupt down ball boy.

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<v Speaker 2>We used to get there sometimes and say, listen, if

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to slow the game down, saying I'll say something.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're going to a scrum, for instance, I might

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<v Speaker 2>just say something which means, when the ball goes in touch,

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<v Speaker 2>don't give it to the opposition straight away.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel free to sort of kick and keep going.

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<v Speaker 3>We had all these seconds add up. They do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to hear the other one did? Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what ballboys said. Some of the things

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<v Speaker 1>like we see to get there.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to get vassalone and put it all over

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<v Speaker 2>a towel and give us the ballboys to stick this

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<v Speaker 2>in the back of your shorts if they get a

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<v Speaker 2>penalty and they kick him out, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Just rub a hill miles of things.

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<v Speaker 3>One on your home game.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask about people in the nineties they turn up to

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<v Speaker 2>our ground, walk into the dress and sheds, it'd be

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<v Speaker 2>that much water. We used to get the high pressure

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<v Speaker 2>hose hose, the roof hose, the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Dressing room out.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing we used to do sometimes when I

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<v Speaker 2>was I worked as a groundsman there and one day

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<v Speaker 2>the first grade side I was playing on the twenties,

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<v Speaker 2>the first grade side, we're playing Saint George who had

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<v Speaker 2>Ricky Wolford Martina Paire.

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<v Speaker 1>So they just said to me the day for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Game, all day, just pull out the hose and just

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<v Speaker 2>just turn the ten meter corridors on this streil just

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<v Speaker 2>into a complete back in the day, coops. The other

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<v Speaker 2>thing was it was up to you how deep the

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<v Speaker 2>d goals were, So like Paramount of stadium because that's Stirlo.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be like an eight meter ingals. Others would

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<v Speaker 2>be a lot shorter. But I think we could really

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<v Speaker 2>mat it was they with the Glory Days, where you

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<v Speaker 2>really could corrupt the result.

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<v Speaker 4>Keep your trains putting idea for magic weekend to see

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<v Speaker 4>what happens on the fringes of Sun Stadium on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's very good. What about man try mate?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was the pre planned try the season

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<v Speaker 2>so far, very very clever the way they exposed.

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<v Speaker 1>They set the bait with Tom, put him up early.

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<v Speaker 1>Here it is we're looking at this here, this is

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<v Speaker 1>clever man. That's good football.

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<v Speaker 2>It just tied and you know what, Hmole just at

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<v Speaker 2>the very last second, he just dips in a fraction

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<v Speaker 2>make the play.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the attack and the inexperience of that Penrith left.

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<v Speaker 4>But we spoke to Seabolt after the game and it

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<v Speaker 4>credited Michael Linnis for.

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<v Speaker 1>That right eagle, that one. That Mick was excited.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a good try.

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<v Speaker 2>It was was very excited about sweeps too, celebrating rockily.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one more timely that Oh that's good, that's good.

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<v Speaker 4>I got caught out once against Thurston the Cowboys. I

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<v Speaker 4>ran up past the football and Thurston designed to play

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<v Speaker 4>exactly like that, went straight through inside choldn' scord.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't a kid, no no, I goppted it from Bell

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<v Speaker 3>but thirst and just give it to me. Got you

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<v Speaker 3>on that one ran pasting his finger up nice?

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<v Speaker 1>Could he play the ball left