1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: On scorn Lives Austrodia. This is the Wider Panalty Show. 2 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the REDA Patty Show. Coming 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: up tonight, Thousands across the country take part in anti 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: mass immigration marches. The panel will weigh on that and 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: the day's top headlines. Also joining me tonight R V. Yemeni, 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: who confronted the neo Nazis attempting to hijack these marches. 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: He'll tell me what really happened on the ground. Mi 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: Horowitz will have the latest from the US, and later 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: in the hour, Kinsey Schofield on the latest revelations about 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: Prince Andrew's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and Left is Losing. 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: It contains quite a few truth bombs, including this one 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: from CNN about the state of the Democrats. 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: Bad, bad, bad, What are you doing? 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, gracious. 15 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: The first, we're learning more about what Victorious proposed treaty 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: with its indigenous population will include, and the tip of 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: the sphere, as the Age calls it, will be a 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: permanent indigenous voice called the Geelong Wah, which will be 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: future proofed against a changing government with an ongoing special 20 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: appropriation cemented into the state budget. Joining me now for 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: more on this is NEWSCORPS senior writer Patrick Carline and 22 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: senior economist and research fellow at the Institute of Public 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: Affairs Adam Crichton. Patrick, how can it be future proof 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: this indigenous voice against a liberal government if it's not 25 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: enshrined in the state constitution. 26 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 5: Look, this has been a sleeper issue, like it's just 27 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 5: sort of come about. 28 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: There's no appetite for it. We saw the voice voted. 29 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 5: Down and no one's actually explained how it is going 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 5: to work until now, until we saw this story. 31 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: Today, and it is terrifying. 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 5: I mean, this representation can sort of they can sit 33 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 5: down with the Chief Commissioner of Police if they feel 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 5: they need to. They can question any law they like. 35 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 5: And I think the unintended consequences will be massive on this. 36 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 5: And there is no support from the electorate in the 37 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 5: first place. 38 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: Well, this is an important point to Adam and opposition 39 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: letter Brad Badden has said that the state based voice 40 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: flies in the face of democracy. The majority of Victorians 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: voted no in the referendum, and from what we're reading now, 42 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: the state opposition could campaign on this win and not 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: change this. Well voice that nobody voted for. 44 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, the government or the news report says that 45 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 6: it's going to be in entrenched somehow, but I don't 46 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 6: think that's actually true. I mean, it's an I a 47 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 6: law of the British constitutional system that at parliament cannot 48 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 6: bind its future self. So in other words, any parliament 49 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 6: in the future can just you know, can pass a 50 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 6: law that changes the previous so it's not permanent. That's 51 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 6: so that's good news, and so it should give the 52 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 6: opposition here something to run on the next election that 53 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 6: they may actually get some traction. 54 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: Have they been strong enough on that, because they seem 55 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: to be shying away from it though they said they 56 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: don't support it, they haven't ruled out getting rid of it. 57 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: But I would have thought this is an issue that 58 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: can seize upon and campaign absolutely. 59 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 6: Crime and that I think they should be really going 60 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 6: hard on because they are easy issues. 61 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: And yeah, the opposition here is very weak. It's not 62 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: it's not loud and proud with its views. 63 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 6: At least that's you know, that's kind of my perception 64 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 6: as a relatively new Victorian. 65 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: It's got different to New South Wales. 66 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: Well as as a permanent Victorian Patrick, you'd remember the 67 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: last federal election, sorry state election, the Liberals were pro 68 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: treaty and it was only after the voice was rejected 69 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: that they change their position finally. 70 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 6: Also to just the contempt for taxpayers money. I mean, 71 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 6: the government here has spent seven hundred million dollars on 72 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 6: this treaty according to IPA research. 73 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: I mean that is just breathtaking him out for a 74 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: government that has one hundred million dollars of debt. So 75 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: that's another issue that the opposition could be attacking. But 76 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 3: you know, where are they on that? 77 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: And the costs ongoing to Patrick is significant too. 78 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: For this body, it's massive. And as I keep saying, 79 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: no one wants. 80 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 5: It, no one, And they should be pushing hand, the opposition, 81 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 5: and there's a lot of things they should be pushing hand. 82 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 5: They don't know what they think. 83 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: It's exc and there's a question about whether even the 84 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: indigenous population wants it, because the numbers who are participating 85 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: in this process is pretty low at the percentage of 86 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: taking part in that democratic process. Now, staying in Victoria, 87 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: Premiere just into Alan copped a lashing from farmers during 88 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: a speech she gave at the Bush Summit in ballorat 89 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: have a. 90 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 7: Look, some of it is because of nature. Some of 91 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 7: it is because of nature. The bush gives you something 92 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 7: you simply can't find anywhere else, the fresh air, the quiet, 93 00:04:54,400 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 7: the space. And that's why I also we're supporting renewable 94 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 7: energy projects as well that are driving investment. 95 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: And then finally too, Then finally too, Patrick, this new 96 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: legislation that the Allen government has just passed, it will 97 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: be coming to other labor states, no doubt. The National 98 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: Electricity Amendment Bill will allow VICRID officials sweeping powers to 99 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: forcibly enter farmland to construct their massive transmission lines for 100 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: renewable power that can use reasonable force, Patrick. That includes 101 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: tearing down fences, breaking locks, calling in the cops. 102 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 5: The cops can be called in, Farmers can be arrested, 103 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 5: they can be fine. And you listen to the retric 104 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 5: from the angry farmers from the other day talking about 105 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 5: their land being taken out from underneath them. There hasn't 106 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 5: been any communication on any level that actually has stated 107 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 5: they're very legitimate. Since this has been going on for 108 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 5: five or six years and to suddenly, I'll give you 109 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 5: Cindrell credit for turning up, But besides that, that was 110 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 5: always going to happen because this has been festering. 111 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 3: And you can understand why. 112 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 5: I mean, your castle is the most important thing, and 113 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 5: these farmers have their castles been put under threat. 114 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: Oh, it is shameful. And she got booed at last 115 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: year's Bush summit in bending her own seat. And again 116 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: Ballarat is federal labor seat. And the prime minister also 117 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: copped it. It wasn't just a Victorian premier. The Prime 118 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: Minister was run out of town and he got plenty 119 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: of booze before he left, trailed by tractors. 120 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 6: And I'll continue to engage, but I won't bullshit people. 121 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: I won't say, I won't say. 122 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 8: I won't say it hasn't happened. It hasn't happened because 123 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 8: the market seit term that doesn't stack up. 124 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: We need ladies and gentlemen please. 125 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: Oh the booing went on after that. And yeah, there 126 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: is is car being cased out of town by tractors 127 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: laughing Adam. But it's it's not funny. The anger in 128 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: the bush, the anger in regional areas is real. They 129 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: feel neglected, they feel they're not being listened to, and 130 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: I think they're completely entitled to feel that way. 131 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 132 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 6: Look I think it's it's a good point just on 133 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 6: the hate out there, because I think you know, there's 134 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 6: real visceral hate for these politicians amongst these groups, and 135 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 6: I think that's that's very sad to see in Australia. 136 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 6: Probably haven't seen that since the war, the level of antagonism. 137 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 6: But you know it is understandable because the laws that 138 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 6: have been that have been passed by Victoria. You know, 139 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 6: the arguments that the Prime Minister made. I mean he 140 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 6: said something that was just completely wrong. He said that 141 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 6: basically any business can build a qualified POWERstation, but there's 142 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 6: absolutely nothing strong. 143 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: But of course the retailers have to buy a renewal 144 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: energy so that is just that's very misleading at best. 145 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: Not only that, all the state and federal taxes that 146 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: are of any fossil fuels. And then if you actually 147 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: do want to start a project, as we have seen, 148 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: you've got all the red tape, the green tape, the 149 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: black tape. We saw that gold mine in in South 150 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: Wales almost past that process, and then have Tania PLEVERSX 151 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: say no, sorry, there's an indigenous group who says there's 152 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: a sensitivity here. So this billion dollar project's gone. I 153 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: mean how you could say that with a straight face 154 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: is beyond me. 155 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 156 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 6: No, Look, I think it's just testament to how extreme 157 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 6: the government's agenda is. That they have to pass these laws, 158 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 6: they have to force things on. 159 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: People, and this is just the beginning. 160 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 6: I mean, we still need to roll out many many 161 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 6: gigawats of solar and win yet it hasn't even started yet. 162 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 3: The hardweaing hasn't even started. So it's going to get 163 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 3: worse this sort of antagonism. 164 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: I would say, Patrick Nunn, you spend a lot of 165 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: time in regional Victoria and elsewhere. What's the mood like 166 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: out there? What do people talk to you about? 167 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: Look, you can look at the stats. 168 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 5: I mean the support for renewables has dropped in the 169 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 5: think the last two years from sixty six percent to 170 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 5: forty four percent. I mean, the farmers of the front line, 171 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,239 Speaker 5: they're going to cop all the reef of the transmission 172 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 5: lines and so on, and they're paying higher power bills 173 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 5: and so as we all are. So you've got to 174 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 5: look at this net zero fallacy and say, hang on, 175 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 5: when is it going to start turning? And I'd like 176 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 5: to think it is already, because it is unsustainable I. 177 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: Think it is. 178 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: I think people don't really understand it. Just sounds nice that. 179 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: Zero and even the names we give it, and we're 180 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 2: all guilty of using the term renewable power. It's really intermittent, 181 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: that is, that is, unreliable, expensive renewable power. And on 182 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: that point about oh, anyone could just start a cold project, 183 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: Well no, they are doing that in China every week. 184 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: Yes, but not here. The banks won't let it, and. 185 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: The banks won't give them money to do it, never 186 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: mind all the red tape they would have to go through. 187 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: But the market manipulation that exists in the renewable sector. 188 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: The government subsidies, taxpayer funded subsidies. That is another issue 189 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 2: that again isn't properly understood by many in the public. Atom. 190 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, certain, that's true. 191 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 6: I mean, just on a net zero, the federal government 192 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 6: spending nine billion dollars a year now just cash on 193 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 6: various subsidies. But of course that doesn't include this thing 194 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 6: called the Capacity Investment Scheme, which is going to induce 195 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 6: seventy three billion dollars of new wind and sol or 196 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 6: over the next say ten years. And basically this involves 197 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 6: giving well basically subsidies to foreign investors to build these 198 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 6: wind turbines and solar farms, but the contracts are all secrets, 199 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 6: so we don't actually know the extent of a subsidy, 200 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 6: which is outrageous really absolutely Anyway, I think that will 201 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 6: change in the future because people will demand to know. 202 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: Now to the March for Australia and we will have 203 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 2: more on this very surely with Rvmeny, who was there 204 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: on the ground covering the march. Thousands of Australians yesterday 205 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: took part in a series of anti immigration rallies across 206 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: capital cities. There were violent clashes with pro Palestinian protesters 207 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: who've been marching every week since October seven. 208 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: Now. 209 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: While the anti mass immigration protests were largely peaceful, as always, 210 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: the media jumped on the attempts of fringe groups to 211 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 2: hijack the protests and a bit to label the rallies 212 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,479 Speaker 2: as hate marches. Adam, how do you see these protests? 213 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: I saw very quickly the media narrative come out and 214 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: demonize any person taking part as this as being aligned 215 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: with neo Nazis or white supremacists. 216 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 217 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 6: Look, I mean I think it's the march was perfectly justified. 218 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 6: We've had the most rapid immigration in the world basically 219 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 6: of the last few years. 220 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, on extra one point two million people. 221 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 6: Obviously, that puts huge pressure on infrastructure, on social coesion. 222 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 6: So these people have a fair point, and I think 223 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 6: what's what's really sad is that both major political parties, 224 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 6: including the Liberal Party. 225 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: They came out and condemned it. I mean there's a 226 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: lot of votes here, there's a lot of anger about 227 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: this issue. 228 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 6: In fact, I think more than fifty percent of Australians 229 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 6: think there's a problem now. 230 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: So why wouldn't you be try to get some of 231 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: those votes? 232 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: Oh, Patrick, if we had a referendum on migration levels, 233 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: if we actually had a referendum, and I think as 234 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: an island nation, we could have a referendum about what 235 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: is the optimum population and then we could actually aim 236 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: for that because we don't have poorer sporters. But it's 237 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: an issue that both Labor and the Liberals do not 238 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: want discussed because they know what the public sentiment is. 239 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: People want to see less immigration, not more. 240 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 5: That's right, and look, I think Adams hit the nail 241 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 5: on the head there. I mean, it's the people who 242 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 5: suffer for the lack of infrastructure, the Australians who are 243 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 5: here who are suddenly vulnerable to sort of the lack 244 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 5: of housing and the lack of infrastructure. There is such 245 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 5: a deep seated frustration there. And the problem when you 246 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 5: have neo Nazis at these protests, it actually masks a 247 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 5: very legitimate frustration, which is should we be having as 248 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 5: many people come in? 249 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: Should it be less? 250 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 5: And the major parties are too scared to talk about it, 251 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 5: and it is a real blind spot in the Australia 252 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 5: sort of identity that we can't actually have a grown 253 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 5: up conversation about. 254 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: I was not at all impressed yesterday to see James Pattison, 255 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 2: someone who's normally fairly sensible, on Sky News talking about 256 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: undermining social really pesion. 257 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: Their social casion by doing. 258 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: The absolutely he was advising people not to take part. 259 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: This was an interview that was conducted before the marches 260 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 2: took place, and I don't want to hear a politician 261 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: say that that is basically telling people to shut up 262 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 2: and copper it. Don't challenge the narrative. And as conservative 263 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: politicians are supposed to be providing an alternative, the very 264 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: least they could do is listen to what these protests 265 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: are upset about, and the. 266 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 6: Fact that they call these people extremists, it's just absurd. 267 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 6: I mean, the extremists the one are the ones who 268 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 6: are running the immigration policies. I mean, when Bob Hawk 269 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 6: was Prime Minister, we had one hundred thousand net overseas 270 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 6: migration every. 271 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 3: Year, and now it's four hundred and fifty. 272 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's crazy, the numbers and resent years. 273 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 6: There's a few examples that exceed that in history. And 274 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 6: of course if you do that, and especially if the 275 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 6: people who are coming largely from different cultures, which is 276 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 6: which is more and. 277 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: More the case, you have all sorts of problems. 278 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 6: It's just that's just reality, exactly. 279 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: And we've seen this attempt to paint protests as extremists before. 280 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: We saw it with the anti lockdown protesters. As long 281 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: as there's one or two bad apples in the crowd, 282 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: then everyone's an extremist. Everyone deserves to be demonized. And 283 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: we even saw it with the women's protest, the women's 284 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: rights protesters because a few Nazis tried to hijacket they 285 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: were called hateful anti trans protests as opposed to women's 286 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: rights protests. Patrick Carline, Adam krist and thank you for 287 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: your time tonight. Thanks joining me now is chief Rebel 288 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: News Australia reporter RV yemeny RVE. You were at the 289 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: March for Australia in Melbourne. You were attacked when you 290 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: attempted to ask questions of a small group of neo 291 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: Nazis who were causing disruptions at the protest. Let's have 292 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: a quick look at a little of what happened. A 293 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: tell me about what happened there. Were you at all 294 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: fearful when you approach those that cosplaying Nazis? 295 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 8: To be honest, I wasn't even approaching the Nazis. We 296 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 8: were there talking to people in the crowd and people 297 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 8: pointed out that they were there. Almost everybody we spoke 298 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 8: to you said they don't like and they have nothing 299 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 8: to do with them. In fact, we've pulled out footage 300 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 8: that showed them barging in, so police let them in, 301 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 8: didn't follow them once they were in and people protested 302 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 8: against them being there, like the majority of the crowd, 303 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 8: they literally bashed their way into it, and then when 304 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 8: I got close they actually when you watch the live feed, 305 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:06,359 Speaker 8: because we ran a four hour live feed, straight, unedited, 306 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 8: raw people get to see what actually happened and it's 307 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 8: nothing like what you're seeing being reported today. And they 308 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 8: came up to me, they tried to kick us out. 309 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 8: My security stepped in and they turned immediately violent. They 310 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 8: were essentially hijacking, physically hijacking the entire event for most 311 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 8: of the people. 312 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: And they weren't wanted there. You're saying, the crowd. 313 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: Gone, this is. 314 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's not my opinion. People. Can I know you've 315 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 9: got the footage, you have it raw. 316 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: And I was watching some of that live coverage and 317 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: I think it's really quite invaluable to see. And it 318 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: also happened during the lockdown protests where you look at 319 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: that raw footage and it was so different to what 320 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: the media were telling you. All these protesters were about. 321 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: What was your impression of those protests generally? What were 322 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 2: the vast majority of people there, why were they there? 323 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: What was upsetting them about what's happening in Australia today. 324 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 8: I'll be honest with you, Rita. I went into it 325 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 8: this time. I wasn't sure where I was placed. I 326 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 8: wasn't sure how many people would hate me. Lucky because 327 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 8: the last two years has been crazy. We've seen a 328 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 8: shift even on the right. And I didn't know how 329 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 8: many real racists were going to be there, how many 330 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 8: people that hate Jews or would just hate me if 331 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 8: we were. I went there and you watch in the 332 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 8: live feed and it's literally three hours of pretty much 333 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 8: almost everyone, ninety nine point nine five percent of the 334 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 8: people walking up and saying I'm here for Australia. Most 335 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 8: of their agreeiances are either with mass immigration or just 336 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 8: to cost a little like the country, the state of 337 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 8: the country at the moment, and they just loved this country. 338 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 8: And you had two groups that were perpetuating violence, you 339 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 8: had and they looked similar and they were both ironically 340 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 8: pro Palestine. 341 00:17:58,840 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 9: That's the funny thing. 342 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 8: I actually asked at one point the neo Nazis, why 343 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 8: didn't they just joined the other side, because they start 344 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 8: chanting to me about genocide. They look the same, they 345 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 8: dressed the same, they're they're just as fascists. But the 346 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 8: majority of people, the actual people that went there to 347 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 8: march yester and it was beautiful to see so many 348 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 8: Australian flags and people so proud they were there because 349 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 8: they love this country and for them, the country is 350 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 8: not about race. It wasn't about race for the vast 351 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 8: majority of people. It is insane to me that the Age, 352 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 8: for example, is running a headline and that's literally we 353 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 8: have so much content for four hours to work through, 354 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 8: just so many important little bits that happened. Obviously not 355 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 8: everyone has the time to watch four hour livestream as 356 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 8: entertaining as I am. But their headline is calling is 357 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 8: saying and propeller steam verse Nazis and they have a 358 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 8: picture of a guy getting punched in the face on 359 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 8: the front cover splashed. Now, they don't tell you anything 360 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 8: about the guy, and we meant to assume he's a Nazi. 361 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 9: You know, I did their job. She spoke to that 362 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 9: guy live. They could have ripped it off our life. 363 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 8: You know why he was attacked by the pro Palestinians, 364 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 8: not because he was a Nazi, but because he had 365 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 8: a star of David on his chest and he was 366 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 8: bleeding from me said he got him with a metal pole, 367 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 8: and we have that footage. I'm literally I've taken off 368 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 8: a minute to drop that. 369 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 9: Story now to show that the media is that they've 370 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 9: got a narrative. 371 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 8: They came with the narrative, they were prepared with the 372 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 8: narrative and they've just been published in a matter what 373 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 8: actually happened on the day. And I think that Victoria 374 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 8: police have to be held accountable for their role in 375 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 8: what happened yesterday because the vast majority of people, like 376 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 8: I said, didn't want the Nazis to be there, but 377 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 8: they couldn't do anything about it. I had two massive 378 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 8: security guards and you see in the footage one of 379 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 8: my security guards is out numbered five to one. 380 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 9: And I'm only here, okay, because. 381 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: Where were the cops? Where were they? They didn't come, 382 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: didn't And the same thing happened with that women's march 383 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: on the steps of Parliament Spring Street, where the near 384 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: Nazis were allowed to break the police lines and go 385 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: and hijack the women's march. I don't know why they 386 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: keep allowing this to happen. 387 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 8: Media now, the police Minister is condemning Sorry to cut 388 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 8: you off, just it's outrageous. The police minister is condemning 389 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 8: those who went to protest today, calling them unhinged or 390 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 8: something like that. It's time to hold the police accountable here. 391 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 8: The police should have done their job, and part of 392 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 8: their job was to protect the average Aussie that was 393 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 8: there for the right reason. 394 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: You mentioned the media being quick to demonize this rally, 395 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 2: the ages false reporting, but we're also had conservative politicians 396 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 2: telling people not to attend. This is the center right 397 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: in this country need to develop a bit of a 398 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 2: backbone and stop letting the lefts at the agenda. 399 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 9: It gave a free kick to the to the left. 400 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 8: Essentially, what happened was the conservative you know, the establishment, 401 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 8: they jumped on board with this condemning of the protesters, 402 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 8: which immediately so that seemed to be the tactic by 403 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 8: the police on the day was like, all right, let's 404 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 8: lock them into a space and we'll let the Nazis 405 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 8: go in there and they can rule that place, because 406 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 8: what we're going to do anyways is demonize the entire crowd. 407 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 8: They've been demonized for weeks leading up to it, and 408 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 8: they're going to get demonized after. So they felt no 409 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 8: responsibility for what happens inside the actual protest. Yeah, if 410 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 8: the conservative both the Liberal Party and just personalities commentators, 411 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 8: if everybody had a bit of a backbone, you don't 412 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 8: have to encourage people to go, but don't condemn people 413 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 8: for going to stand up for Australia. I wasn't encouraging 414 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 8: people to go because I didn't know what was going 415 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 8: to actually happen on that day. I didn't know if 416 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 8: it was really I didn't know if it was going 417 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 8: to be full of Nazis and racist and that. But 418 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 8: it absolutely wasn't. It was majority not. And you see 419 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 8: across the country the Nazis strategically placed themselves at the 420 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 8: front of everything and they whether they forced or in album, 421 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 8: they ended up getting welcomed onto stage, but then they 422 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 8: cheered from the front to create the vibe as if 423 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 8: they're being celebrated there. But if you look beyond the 424 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 8: first two rows of everything, you see people turning their backs, 425 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 8: turning their backs, booing. 426 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 9: People walking away. 427 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 8: We captured on the live people literally walking away from 428 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 8: the rally when they realized that it was Nazis being platformed. 429 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 8: The Conservatives have to grow a backbone in Australia otherwise, 430 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 8: look at us, Look where we are now. We've been 431 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 8: lacking a backbone for so many years and you know 432 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 8: look where that's taken us. 433 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 2: Harvey Jebany, thank you so much for your time tonight. 434 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 2: Still to come left is losing it. Plus the Dark 435 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 2: Money group paying pro Democrat influences thousands of dollars a month. 436 00:22:49,359 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 2: Army Horrowitz has the details. Welcome back. It's time for 437 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: lefties losing it. Let's start with the fascinating revelations about 438 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: how much the Democrats are paying mindless, unprincipled influences to 439 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: post anti Trump, pro Democrat propaganda crap like this. Mister 440 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 2: Trump is out, You're trying to delete the Department of Education. 441 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: Teachers are getting cut. 442 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: Left and rate. 443 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 2: Our classes are packed, and we have like zero funding. 444 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 10: Trump says, America first, and the gods the most American 445 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 10: institutions we've got. 446 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 4: This is signaling preparations to pass and we deploy the 447 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 4: Native States military against American citizens in Chicago. 448 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 11: Every Republican is currently in Congress voting to destroy the 449 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 11: lives of millions of Americans. 450 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 2: So authentic, so much conviction from lefties losing it. Not really. 451 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 2: According to a new report, a secretive dark money group 452 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: tied to the Democratic Party is paying online influences up 453 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: to eight thousand dollars a month to disseminate left leaning 454 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: talking points. Among those named is Via Juliana, the gen 455 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: Z activists who spoke at the twenty twenty four Democratic 456 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 2: National Convention. 457 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 11: As the saying goes, if you're not at the table, 458 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 11: you're on the menu. 459 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: And the Democrats thought she was just the influencer to 460 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: bring young disaffected men back into the Democrat camp. 461 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 11: I spent a life time on college campuses. 462 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 3: And I spent a lot of young men. 463 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 11: I love young men, I love right guys. 464 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that little campaign didn't work out so well, no 465 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: matter how much he loves young men. 466 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: Yep. 467 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: The Democrats are so desperate to engineer support that they 468 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: are paying influences up to eight thousand a month to 469 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 2: post lefty propaganda. They are trying to create the illusion 470 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: of grassrooughs support, just like they tried to engineer faith news, 471 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: Russian collusion hoaxes, and those weird polls right before the 472 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 2: election that were all wrong, all wrong, in the same direction. 473 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: And talking about polls lists, checking with CNN's polling expert 474 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: on how well the Democrats are going, How are they going? 475 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: Harry bad, bad bad? 476 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 3: What are you doing? 477 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, gracious, what are we talking about here? 478 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 4: In terms of big party registration changes in the key 479 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 4: swing states. Let's look at the key for swing states 480 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 4: that in fact do keep. 481 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: Tract of registration by party. 482 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 4: Look, the Republican Party is in their best position at 483 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 4: this point in the cycle since at least two thousand 484 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: and five, and all four of these key battleground states. 485 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 4: We go out to the southwest, Arizona, how about Nevada, 486 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 4: Republicans haven't done this well since two thousand and five. Oh, 487 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 4: my goodness, Gracia, at this point of cycle, North Carolina. 488 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 4: I couldn't find a point at which Republicans were doing 489 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 4: better at this point in the cycle. It's at least 490 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 4: this century. It probably goes way back in the last century, 491 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 4: and Pennsylvania very similar. Republicans doing better at this point 492 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 4: than at any point at any point this century, at 493 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 4: least as far as I could find. 494 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: I should have given the lefties trigger warning before that 495 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: last clip. For the rest of you, perhaps a Colt 496 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 2: shower or a cigarette after hearing this. 497 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 4: When it comes to party registration, Republicans have made massive 498 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 4: gains compared to eight years ago. They are in their 499 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 4: best position in these key four swing states. But at 500 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 4: this point, as they said at the beginning, the Democratic 501 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 4: brand isn't about as good a position as the Cracker 502 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 4: Bower rebrand. It is bad, bad, bad for the Democrat. 503 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 2: Bad bad, bad for the Democrats. And one of the 504 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: reasons the Democrats are struggling is that soft on crime philosophy. 505 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: They don't care about law and order, they don't believe 506 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: in properly punishing offenders, they don't prioritize victims and law 507 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 2: abiding members of the community. Just listen to this lefty 508 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 2: losing it at the DNC summer meeting last week claim 509 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 2: that Americans don't care about violent crime, they were worried 510 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: about addressing mental health issues. 511 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 10: Shoes voters care about, where does Trump go? Migrant crime, carjackings, 512 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 10: the really lurid, awful stuff that is a crazy, crazy visual. 513 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 10: Don't take the beat because most Americans are more worried 514 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 10: about how are we going to address mental health issues, 515 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 10: the visible homelessness that we see on streets, and how 516 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 10: do we deal with mental health and other issues that 517 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 10: drive the sort of random incidents that scare all of us. 518 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: That's what you. 519 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 10: Should be talking about, That's where you should be focused. 520 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: Don't take the beat and talking about. 521 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 10: Migrant crime or carjackings or the things that actually don't 522 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 10: matter to that many Americans. 523 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: With the likes of her advising the Democrats that will 524 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: be in the political willness for some time to come, 525 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 2: and they're going so badly that the front runners to 526 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: be the Democrat presidential candidate are awful. One of them 527 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: is this woman. And I ask you to remember the 528 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 2: context in which you exist. 529 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: Yeah I did that. 530 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 2: Gosh, I missed that widow. She's still a front runner, 531 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: along with this next dude who has managed to cause 532 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 2: untold damage in California these days. Gavin news And pretends 533 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: to be against the excesses of the trans cult, But 534 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: it wasn't long ago when he was mocking, when he 535 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: was laughing at the notion of parents being sidelined as 536 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: their kids are being transitioned. 537 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: Why parents not known if their kids school. 538 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 12: It's a hell of a thing. You're talking about about 539 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 12: one percent of the population. Climate change, it's impact one 540 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 12: hundred percent of the population wasn't even brought up. And 541 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 12: we're talking about trans issues here in California. 542 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 3: An issue for you. 543 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 12: They get up running center. 544 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 3: It's the great, it's the great. 545 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 12: This is one of the greatest I think distractions, and 546 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 12: it's classic the population in the United States. 547 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 3: These kids just want to lift. 548 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 12: Just we're going to go to we're having trans issues 549 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 12: the Reagan Library. 550 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 3: It's not to be a shape. 551 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: These kids just want to leave our deer, Gavin. That 552 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: video is all the Republicans need. They just have to 553 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: play that on high rotation to ensure we never end 554 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: up with President Newsome god forbid. Joining me now is 555 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: filmmaker and commentator Army Horowitz. Army I started Lefties with 556 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: news that a dark money group is paying pro dem 557 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: influences up to eight thousand dollars a month. According to 558 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: Wide Magazine. The names included in this report are among 559 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: the most recognizable lefty influences online. 560 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 13: Army Yeah, look, dark money is being used by everyone. 561 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 13: Let me give you a real brief history of campaign 562 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 13: finance in America. So there was there's horror money, right spending, 563 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 13: which means you give specific money to specific candidates, highly 564 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 13: regulated by the Federal Election Committee the FEC, and there 565 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 13: are caps to what you can give to people. That 566 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 13: led to what we call soft money. Now pre two 567 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 13: thousand and two was when you can give an unlimited 568 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 13: amount of money to political parties, not particular political politicians, 569 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 13: but parties for use in those campaigns. Now, that was 570 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 13: banned in two thousand and two and in twenty ten. 571 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 13: We have another form of soft money, which is super packs, 572 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 13: which we all know about, which exists today, unlimited amount 573 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 13: of money to people, but. 574 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: It must be disclosed. 575 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 13: Now, dark money, which you're referring to, is a slightly 576 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 13: different animal, which is you can give money to not 577 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 13: super packs, but you can give money to nonprofit organizations 578 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 13: unlimited amounts of money and you do not. 579 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: Have to disclose who the donors are. And that's what 580 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: we're referring to. Now. 581 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 13: Look, I may surprise you on this. I don't have 582 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 13: a particular problem with it because it's legal and both 583 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 13: sides do it. In fact, the Republicans excelled. 584 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: At it for a long time. 585 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 13: Right now, and the Democrats always bemoaned it, saying, oh, well, 586 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 13: the rich billionaires are giving money to Republican candids and causes, 587 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 13: and that flip in twenty twenty four. Democrats in twenty 588 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 13: twenty four outspented Republicans. 589 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: Two to one. 590 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 13: Okay, they just figure out how to do it. Now, 591 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 13: nothing to say Republicans can do the same thing. They 592 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 13: can't paign. 593 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: I don't know me. I'm just kidding or. 594 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 13: Influencers to promote hockey voices not doing it as effectively. 595 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: So, look, do I have a particular problem. 596 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 11: No. 597 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 13: If you want to talk in context of total campaign 598 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 13: financi reform, I'm open for that discussion. But right now 599 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 13: it's legal, and therefore I say, Republicans get your game on. 600 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: Well, I don't care if it's legal. I just think 601 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: it's dishonest. I mean, giving money as a billionaire or 602 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: anybody is one thing. But it's the lack of transparency 603 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: that I have issue with, the fact that you've got 604 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: these influencers pretending they're invested in an issue, creating content 605 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: sharing it to their followers, when really they're just motivated 606 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: by the paycheck. What they actually think who knows, And 607 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 2: I think that's that lack of transparency. There should be 608 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: some sort of a disclosure if you're taking money to 609 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: state a particular opinion. Now we know the Democrats paid 610 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: the likes of Oprah and Beyonce to be part of 611 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: their campaign. Don't you think there should be a requirement 612 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: that anyone being paid for a political endorsement at least 613 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: declares it somewhere. 614 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 615 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 13: Look, that's a very fair argument, one that I'm not 616 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 13: unsympathetic to. 617 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: Now, there are disclosure rules and while you. 618 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 13: Don't have to talk about who donated money to dark 619 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 13: money that people receiving money do. 620 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: It's a very great look. It's a very gray area. 621 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 13: Legally you do have to disclose certain things, but there 622 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 13: are ways around it. And I'm sure that these five 623 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 13: O and C threes have spent a lot of money 624 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 13: on lawyers making sure that they're living on the right 625 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 13: side of the gray area. 626 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: Donald Trump says is determined to tackle crime in America's 627 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 2: big cities. These big cities are always run by the Democrats, 628 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 2: and often they're riddled with crime. 629 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: Army. 630 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: We've got talking about places like DC and YC, LA, Chicago, 631 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: and the President posted this is said six people were 632 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: killed and twenty four people were shot in Chicago last weekend. 633 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: And JB. Pritzker, the weakend pathetic governor of Illinois, just 634 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: said he doesn't need help in preventing crime. He is 635 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 2: crazy capital letters. He better straighten out fast or we 636 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: are coming army. The Illinois governor has made a full 637 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 2: of himself in recent days for a number of reasons. 638 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 2: But what do you see. How do you see his 639 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: stance on law and order and his claim that Illinois 640 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: Chicago doesn't need Donald Trump or the fence in there 641 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: helping them reduce crime. 642 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 13: Look again, I you know you and I have talked 643 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 13: about this before. I have issues with using Look, DC 644 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 13: is one thing we're talking about before. It is under 645 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 13: the mandate of the federal government, and when it comes 646 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 13: to states, it's a. 647 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: Whole different ball of wax. Look. 648 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 13: I have seen the National Guard be used very effectively 649 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 13: in a certain places, for example, the BLM riots, right, 650 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 13: or the LA riots. 651 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: Those are reasons. 652 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 13: These are national emergencies that the president certainly has a 653 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 13: legal right to call the National Guard to quell that. 654 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 13: I've also seen the National Guard be used very effectively 655 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 13: when they are going after specific targets. So for example, 656 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 13: you see them in transit hubs, at stadiums, at certain 657 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 13: federal buildings right that have spec maybe specific targets or 658 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 13: threats against them, also very effective. The problem is that, Look, 659 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 13: it's the National Guard is a blunt object. 660 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: They're not trained for policing. They have certain training and 661 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 1: they're very. 662 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 13: Good at it, and when it comes to say, reducing 663 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 13: crime in the short term, like you see, they can 664 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 13: do that very effectively. Long term, They're just not a 665 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 13: police force, right. Police forces are trained in different ways. 666 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 13: They need to know a neighborhood, know the community, do 667 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 13: investigations on crime. That's how you effectively reduce crime long 668 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 13: term by effective policing. 669 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, look I. 670 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: Found Yeah, but why can't why can't Trump declare a 671 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 2: national emergency? Why can't you decide that the crime rate 672 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: in a city like Chicago warrants the National Guard being there? 673 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 2: And I understand what you're saying about long term solutions 674 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 2: that may go in there and reduce the crime rate 675 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 2: for a period of time, But doesn't that at least 676 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 2: show that it can be done, that there is a 677 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 2: way to tackle crime, because for decades now, it seems 678 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: in the big cities we've been conditioned to just accept 679 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 2: crime as a part of life rather than something that 680 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 2: can actually be reduced dramatically, perhaps even eliminate it. 681 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 13: Look legally, and this is the part of the legal 682 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 13: argument going on, he can if he called it a 683 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 13: federal emergency, and they can be called in a police crime. 684 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 13: But look, I'm just telling you from a conservative perspective. 685 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 13: I have always and will always lean toward smaller government, 686 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 13: less federal intervention, and local community governance. That's just the 687 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 13: way I am wired. It's my conservative belief system. I 688 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 13: believe long term that is better than a short term 689 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 13: fixed Okay, I. 690 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: Have a look. I will tell you this. One of 691 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: my biggest. 692 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 13: Problems I have for American democracy is the growth and 693 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 13: executive power. I don't like it. I don't like it 694 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 13: for Trump. I didn't like it under Biden. I didn't 695 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 13: like it under Obama, which is where we saw the 696 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 13: real growth. I think it's a real danger to our 697 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 13: democracy when you have executive growth like we've seen it. 698 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: I just don't like it. I'm sorry, I just don't. 699 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 2: Well, we're going to have to disagree on that one, 700 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: but we often disagree on these programs, so that's all. 701 00:36:59,680 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 3: Well. 702 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 2: Good now. The Illinois governor I mentioned earlier made a 703 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 2: fool of himself in recent days. 704 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: There was this we're very pleased about the progress that 705 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: we're making. 706 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 5: I know that I live rent free in the president's head, 707 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 5: and I wish he would spend some time in Chicago 708 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 5: so that he could see what a lovely shitting we had. 709 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 13: Governor calla what do you do if the National Guard 710 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 13: is activated? 711 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 8: If it comes uri? 712 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 2: I got to tell you that cameraman deserves an Oscar 713 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: for that work. The way he's scared up to the 714 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 2: Trump Tower made a complete mockery of what the governor 715 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 2: just said. That was art right there. But we're not 716 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 2: finished with Pritzker yet. He made a full of himself 717 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 2: again on the weekend, playing into this conspiracy theory that 718 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 2: Donald Trump was dead or near death. He was actually 719 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 2: playing golf. The Illinois governor posted this response to Trump. 720 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 2: He wrote, why don't you send everyone proof of life first? 721 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 2: Either way, Chicago doesn't want you here. Army just quickly 722 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 2: on the conspiracy theory that played out, It was the 723 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 2: top trending topic on X and elsewhere, and the lefties 724 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 2: were all very very excited that they thought Donald Trump 725 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 2: was dead or almost a hit. 726 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 13: Well, they've certainly tried, right, I mean no question the 727 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 13: left tried to eliminate him and other conservatives. Look, I 728 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 13: just think this is them saying, you know, it was 729 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 13: Biden who we thought was dead for a long time. 730 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 13: So maybe we'll try to turn the table and say 731 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 13: Trump is dead. Maybe again, wish we'll thinking. I don't 732 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,439 Speaker 13: get it. It's so silly. It just makes you look 733 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 13: like a fool, and certainly makes a guy who is 734 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 13: governor of a state, and by the way, has political 735 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 13: presidential aspirations. 736 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: Just look like an idiot, like, what are you doing here? 737 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 2: Sticking with Chicago, the Democrat mayor Brandon Johnson has already 738 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 2: limited how much his city's police department can call right 739 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 2: with the federal immigration agents. He's doing everything he can 740 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: on me to frustrate the Trump administration's deportation program. 741 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 13: I always thought that Laurie I cared my hygiene Lightfoot, 742 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 13: was the worst mayor in Chicago history. But I was 743 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 13: proven wrong. Right, it's Brandon Johnson. Hands down, hats off 744 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 13: to you, Mayor Johnson. He is This is not just 745 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 13: me saying hyperbole that he's the worst mayor. He's literally 746 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 13: the worst mayor in America. 747 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: In February was. 748 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 13: Down to a six percent approval reating not sixty wow percent. 749 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 13: He has since been riding high to twenty eight percent 750 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 13: currently where he sits. More importantly, he's at thirty eight 751 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 13: percent and twenty eight percent with the black and Hispanic 752 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 13: community right, which again goes to this trend of black 753 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 13: and Hispanic voters not wanting to see democratic policies in 754 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 13: their cities. When it starts to even a black mayor 755 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 13: is underwater. 756 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: Way underwater with black voters. 757 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 13: And when it comes to his fighting back on illegal immigration, well, 758 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 13: of course they're not. 759 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: They're not going to take this because. 760 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 13: They see the effects illegal immigration has had in their cities, 761 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 13: right when they have they have between fifteen one hundred 762 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 13: thousand illegal immigrants causing. 763 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: Crime in their city. 764 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 13: Not all of them, of course, obviously, I mean only 765 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 13: an idiot would say that. But obviously any crime committed 766 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 13: by an illegal immigrant is the additional crime we didn't 767 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 13: have to have if they weren't in the city. So yeah, 768 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 13: that's of course, you see the Democrats losing they lost 769 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 13: a vote because they lost the election because of it, 770 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 13: and then even more horrible, right, okay, the Democratic Party 771 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 13: Party of Democracy right. Brandon Johnson said he will not 772 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 13: work with federal agents even if he is constitutionally required. 773 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: He said it, he said the quiet part out loud 774 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: that I. 775 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 13: Don't care if legally I have to, I'm not going 776 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 13: to do it. Even worse rita is he said that 777 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 13: he will instruct the police not to work with federal 778 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 13: ice agents. 779 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 1: Even if they are under attack. 780 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 13: So if they are being attacked by people on the streets, 781 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,439 Speaker 13: he is telling the police, do not assist them, never 782 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 13: mind assistant them with moving out illegals. 783 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: Don't help them in any way she performs is dangerous. 784 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: This is terrible. It's why he's such a poor mayor. 785 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 2: Me Horowitz, thank you so much for your time. 786 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 1: Tonight. 787 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 2: Still to come. The latest revelations about Prince Andrew's relationship 788 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 2: with Jeffrey Epstein. Kinsey Schofield is up next. Welcome back, 789 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 2: joining me naw celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey Schofield Kinsey. 790 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 2: Recently unearthed emails have revealed that Prince Andrew was in 791 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 2: contact with pedophile businessman Jeffrey Epstein for five years, longer 792 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: than he claimed in that from miss BBC interview What 793 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 2: More can you tell Me? 794 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 4: Yeah? 795 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 11: According to The Sunday Times, the emails were sourced from 796 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 11: the file sharing site Distributed Denial of Secrets of The 797 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 11: paper reported that it independently verified dozens of the email addresses, 798 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 11: phone numbers and physical addresses listed within the documents. Prince 799 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 11: Andrew's deception surrounding the event or the you know the 800 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 11: event and the extent really of his relationship with Jeffrey 801 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 11: Epstein shows a mix of poor judgment and dishonesty, and 802 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,720 Speaker 11: it proves that the royal family was right to strip 803 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 11: him of his titles and distance themselves. He remains a 804 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 11: major liability. And if he's been caught lying about this, 805 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 11: how can the public trust him about anything? He says 806 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 11: he never met Virginia Goufray, how can we trust him 807 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 11: about that? 808 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: Well? 809 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,760 Speaker 2: He also said he doesn't sweat because of some medical condition. 810 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,879 Speaker 2: He says all sorts of weird things during that interview. Now, 811 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 2: Jordan Hudson, the young girlfriend of NFL legend Bill Belichick, 812 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 2: is determined to start her own business, and it's an 813 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 2: interesting line of work. She's father the trademark application for 814 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 2: the term gold digger through her company, Trouble Cup Enterprises. 815 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 2: According to documents, the name will be used for key 816 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 2: chains and jewelry. This comes amid Jordan's controversial relationship with 817 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 2: the veteran NFL coach. She's twenty four, Bill Belichick is 818 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 2: seventy three. I'm sure she's heard the expression gold digger 819 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 2: a few times in recent months, Kinsey. 820 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 11: I mean, obviously, she's trying to capitalize on the criticism. 821 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 11: Under her direction, their company filed seventeen trademark applications including 822 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 11: Chapel Bill, No Days Off, and the Belichick Way, among others. 823 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 11: So you know, she's immersed herself in nearly every professional 824 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 11: part of this coach's world, from handling media matters to. 825 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 2: Even his real estate ventures. 826 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 11: And you're wondering how qualified. But you know, to me, 827 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 11: she remains like she reminds me of like the reality 828 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 11: show villains. I think she thrives on the attention, whether 829 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,280 Speaker 11: positive or negative. She really leans in and those people 830 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 11: tend to stay in our faces for a while, but 831 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,240 Speaker 11: there's no real longevity in owning that space. 832 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 2: You know what, if there was a reality program with 833 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 2: those two, I would probably watch it because I'm just 834 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 2: fascinated in that entire dynamic. Now, insiders have revealed that 835 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 2: the supposed romance between Pamela Anderson and Liam Neeson was 836 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 2: all just a pr ploy cooked up by their respective 837 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 2: teams and paramount while the Naked Gun movie was still 838 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 2: being Filmkinsy, there are a lot of middle aged and 839 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 2: all the women, I've got to say, who are going 840 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 2: to be devastated by this news, they were very much 841 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 2: invested in this romance. 842 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 11: Yeah, we never discussed this relationship because I was evinced 843 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 11: always that it was a show Mounse. You know, it's 844 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 11: an old Hollywood trick, sometimes to amplify the project they're promoting, 845 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 11: sometimes to deflect from a scandal, but the business behind 846 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 11: it can be the most fascinating. Contracts that spell out 847 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 11: when and where the couple is photographed, even what they 848 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 11: can and can't say. Sometimes there's practically a script that 849 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 11: they go by which tells you how manufactured these relationships 850 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 11: can be. But if Liam is your cup of tea, 851 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 11: there's still. 852 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 2: A chance for you, ladies, Kinsey. The Californian government has 853 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,280 Speaker 2: responded to Prison Trump's decision to revoke Kamala Harris's Secret 854 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:36,280 Speaker 2: Service detail by ordering the California Highway Patrol to protect 855 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 2: her instead. 856 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 11: Kinsey, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but this Kamala development 857 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 11: makes me wonder is California footing the bill for Harry 858 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 11: and Meghan's security. They've met with Governor Newsom several times, 859 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 11: and Harry even referenced his support newsome support in that 860 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 11: NYPD car chase threat email. The real question is where 861 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 11: else is Gavin Newsom waste taxpayer dollars. I don't want 862 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 11: to pay for Kamala's vanity. Tour and I can list 863 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 11: on both hands and toes everyone else that doesn't want 864 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 11: to pay for it. So I'm frustrated, like a lot 865 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 11: of other Californians by this. 866 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 2: Now the reports that Sydney Sweeteye is dating one of 867 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 2: Taylor's Swift's arch enemies, Scooter Braunah, what's going on their Kinsey? 868 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 9: Yeah? 869 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 11: Sydney famous for her show mance with Glenn Powell. Yeah. 870 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 11: A new video is circulating of Sydney and Scooter walking 871 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 11: around Italy over the summer. We believe she was there 872 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 11: for Jeff Bezos's wedding at the time. I like the 873 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 11: idea of them as a couple. They're both creative and 874 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 11: very ambitious. Will Sydney be invited to Taylor Swift and 875 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 11: Travis Kelsey's wedding? Probably not if Scooter braun would be 876 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 11: the man on her arm. 877 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 2: Now. Rep for Snoop Dogg, who's making a lot of 878 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 2: news in Australia. A rep for him has said that 879 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 2: a widely reported apology from the rapper over comments he 880 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 2: made about LGBTQIA storylines and kids movies is actually fake news. 881 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 2: He hasn't apologized, has refused to back down, and has 882 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 2: not said sorry for those comments. I don't know why 883 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 2: he needs to say sorry, because he has said some 884 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 2: shocking things in the past. But the comments he made 885 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 2: about that movie I think were pretty mainstream. Kinsey, He's 886 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 2: got a gig coming up in Australia, a very well 887 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 2: paid gig, rumored to be collecting between two and three 888 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,439 Speaker 2: million dollars to perform at the AFL Grand Final here 889 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 2: in Melbourne. Tell me about this non apology. How to 890 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 2: get reported as news all around the world. 891 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 11: Well, some say that it was deleted, and perhaps it 892 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 11: was maybe he had a social media manager that you 893 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,439 Speaker 11: acted without his permission. But the fact that his raps 894 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,919 Speaker 11: have come out and said oh not really, I mean 895 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 11: I think that that that's really interesting. But I'm with you, 896 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 11: why should he apologize? All he said was I don't 897 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 11: know how to respond to my grandchild about where these 898 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 11: two cartoon lesbians obtained a baby a stork. It's a 899 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 11: tough question without an obvious answer, so it was just 900 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 11: keeping it real. 901 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 2: Well, that's it, and here's who he is. And I 902 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 2: think if you engage his services, you shouldn't be expecting 903 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 2: some politically correct performer. He's going to say what he 904 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 2: thinks he always has now before you go. Experts are 905 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 2: predicting that twenty one year old actress Millie Bobby Brown 906 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 2: could inspire jen Z and millennials to adopt after The 907 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 2: Stranger Things star and her husband Jake bon Jovi revealed 908 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 2: in an Instagram post that they had quietly adopted their 909 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 2: first child together. 910 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,240 Speaker 11: I love the story because I'm one of the people 911 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,840 Speaker 11: that read this and thought, I wonder if I should 912 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 11: adopt a baby. I don't think I would be very 913 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 11: good at incuba. I'm already full of so much rage reader, 914 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 11: and I just thought, I mean to me, I did 915 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,360 Speaker 11: read this, and maybe I would look into this. 916 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm older. 917 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 11: I don't know if you know this, but I'm one 918 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 11: hundred and forty three. I'm older in life, so I 919 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 11: don't even know if I could. I think that this 920 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 11: is the absolute truth. I read the story and thought, 921 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 11: maybe I'll look into adoption. I think it's an interesting 922 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 11: I think I'm glad she brought it out there. I'm 923 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 11: glad she brought it to our attention. 924 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,399 Speaker 2: I think it's very wholesome. I'm very happy for her, 925 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:35,280 Speaker 2: But I think you could do with rearing a child naturally. 926 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 2: I think it would just calm you that those hormones 927 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 2: will be released and we'll even get even a better 928 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 2: and improved Kinsey, if that's even possible. Thank you, thank you. 929 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 11: I needed your support, so I appreciate that. 930 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 2: Kinsisco, Phil, thanks for your time tonight, and that's all 931 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 2: the time I've got. I'll see you tomorrow night at 932 00:49:54,719 --> 00:50:01,360 Speaker 2: eleven up. Next, it's Newsnight six