1 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, it's Callie Taylor here and welcome to you. 2 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: This week's My Joe Monday. So this week I want 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: to take a deeper dive into how our attention can 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: influence our mental well being, and we'll do this through 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: the lens of Marita Therapy. So one of Marita's key 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: insights was around something called peripheral consciousness. So stick with 7 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: me on this one because it's actually really fascinating and 8 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: it is quite a unique way of looking at consciousness. 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: So let me explain it. Peripheral consciousness is this idea 10 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: that while we focus on one thing, we still hold 11 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: an awareness of other things in the background. So, for example, 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: you might be absorbed in a book but still be 13 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: vaguely kind of aware of the sound of the birds outside, 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: or the hum of the fridge, or maybe the smell 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: of your fear. And these background impressions sit on the 16 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: periphery of our consciousness, so they're not front and center, 17 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: but they're still there, and although we may not be 18 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: thinking about them, we're kind of still aware of them. 19 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: So here's where it gets really interesting, because we can 20 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: talk about this in the context of our emotions and 21 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: our feelings and our thoughts. So let's take anxiety as 22 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,279 Speaker 1: an example. So in the West, it is very common 23 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: that we see anxiety as a problem to fix. So 24 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: before I can get on with my life, before I 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: can do the things that are important to me, I 26 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: must fix this. So the dominant approach is symptom reduction. 27 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: So we try to calm the body and control our thoughts, 28 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: control our breath, and when we feel better then we 29 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: can get back to life. But Marita's view was radically different, 30 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: so he didn't see emotions like anxiety as anything to 31 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: be fixed or controlled or tampered with. He saw the 32 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: problem as what he described as misdirected attention. So he 33 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: teaches us that feelings and emotions and thoughts are all 34 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: natural occurrences, so a natural part of being human. And 35 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 1: if we just left them as they are, so if 36 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: we stopped kind of control them and allowed them to 37 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: take their natural course, so when they arrive, they may 38 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: peak and then they kind of taper off a bit 39 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: like a wave, but that's only if they are left alone. 40 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: So let's get back to anxiety. The issue wasn't the 41 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: anxiety itself, but the way we narrow our focus onto it. 42 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: So we bring our attention onto it, and by doing that, 43 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: we're bringing the anxiety into the foreground of our lives, 44 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: and then we're pushing everything else, so our could be 45 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: our relationships, our hobbies, the things that are important to us, 46 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: like our values, our goals, we're pushing it into the background, 47 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: so the anxiety becomes the conscious focus. And for those 48 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: of us who are emotionally sensitive, because we are all 49 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: different the way we respond to our emotions, and some 50 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: of us, especially if you're more introverted, are more sensitive 51 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: to emotions than others, and this what can happen is 52 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: this narrowing can happen really really quickly, so you might 53 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: notice your the physical effects of anxiety, so racing hard, 54 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: at tight chest, shaky hands, and then suddenly your entire 55 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: world it's like it collapses into these sensations, and the 56 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: peripheral awareness can shut down, so all the things that 57 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: are happening around you, you're actually not aware of them, 58 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: because all you're focused on is this internal discomfort that 59 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: you have. And of course, naturally it's very normal that 60 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: you want this feeling to go. But the paradox of 61 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: that is the more we fixate on trying to control 62 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: the anxiety, the more power it gains, and so Marita 63 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: teaches us that or he explains that this is what 64 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: he calls obsessive inward attention and it traps us into 65 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: what he calls shiss or normal. Jon, I hope I 66 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: pronounced that right. I have talked about this in previous episodes. 67 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: But what it is is the contradiction between how we 68 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: want to feel and what we actually feel. So you 69 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: think about it. When you feel an emotion, that is 70 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: the truth on how you feel. But when it's really 71 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: uncomfortable and it's painful, we don't want to feel like that. 72 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: We want to feel something different. So you can see 73 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: there's this gap there between the truth of how I 74 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: feel and how I want to feel, and then we 75 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: start resisting it. And that's when the the more we resist, 76 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: the more we analyze our symptoms, it's like why am 77 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: I feeling like this? The more we can get stuck. 78 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: And the neuroscience now backs this up. So what it's 79 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: telling us is that what we repeatedly pay attention to 80 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: becomes reinforced in our brain. So when we give anxiety 81 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 1: or other emotions constant airtime by talking about it, trying 82 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: to control it, we're literally wiring it in. And of 83 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: course there are avoidance strategies like scrolling through social media 84 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: or episodes of Netflix, or a couple of glasses of wine, 85 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: which give us temporary relief, but often the anxiety comes 86 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: back with vengeance. So what's the alternative. Well, because Marita 87 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: teaches us that feelings are natural. He wants us to 88 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: feel how we feel, not fight how we feel, and 89 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: allow ourselves to feel these emotions without resisting them and 90 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: allow them to take our net that to take their 91 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: natural course. And this completely goes against the grain. But 92 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: the goal is not to get rid of our emotions, 93 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: which is what we kind of divert to you, because 94 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: that's what everything's uncomfortable, so we want to get rid 95 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: of them. But what Marita Therapy teaches us is to 96 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: allow them to exist in the background, allow them to 97 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: be as they are while we move forward with purposeful action. 98 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: So that means allowing the anxiety to be a part 99 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: of your experience, not just the whole story. So you 100 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: can still feel your heart racing and put your shoes 101 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: on and go out for that walk, and you can 102 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: still feel the nerves and hit send on that email, 103 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: or just like the bird song outside your window. The 104 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: anxiety doesn't have to disappear, but it just doesn't need 105 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: to be the thing that you're staring out, the thing 106 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: that all your attention is on. And when we expand 107 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: our awareness to include both the discomfort and the world 108 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: around us, it's kind of like we're reclaiming our freedom. 109 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: And that to me is a really powerful thing, because 110 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: we don't need to feel good to do good. We 111 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: just need to stop making emotions. The main character of 112 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: the story, and what I find fascinating is Marito. He 113 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: was a Japanese psychiatrist in the nineteen twenties, very prominent 114 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: psychiatrist and scholar. And just imagine that a psychiatrist who 115 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: doesn't focus on the symptoms of his patients. His patients 116 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: suffered from what he called shinkitsu, which now can be 117 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: kind of aligned with anxiety disorders like generalized anxiety disorder, 118 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: obsessive compulsive disorder, and a range of other disorders. But 119 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: he didn't focus on symptoms. Through his therapy, he allowed 120 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: his patients to feel how they feel, and to almost 121 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: through experience, they started to become aware of the nature 122 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: of their emotions, their relationship with their emotions, changed. So 123 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: these strong emotions that were showing up were no longer 124 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: the enemy to try and get rid of, but they 125 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: were able to allow them to be, and they then 126 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: turn their attention to purposeful action of what needed to 127 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: be done. And Marita described this as pure mind, and 128 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: we know it also as Arrogamama is making room for 129 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: our emotions, allowing them to be, and then shifting our 130 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: attention to what needs to be done. So I hope 131 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: this has been helpful. I hope it's been interesting. It 132 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: certainly food for thought. It is a bit of a 133 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: shift in adue towards our emotions. It's something that I 134 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: practice every day. It's been incredibly helpful for me, and 135 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: of course you are more than welcome to reach out 136 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: to me. If you have any questions at all about 137 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: Marino therapy or anything else, you can go to my 138 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: website at Culi Taylor Coaching dot com dot au. I'd 139 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: love to hear from you, and thanks for listening. I'll 140 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: catch you next week. See ya,