WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 18 June

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<v Speaker 1>Lately.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Late Debase.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for joining us on the Late Debate. I'm James

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<v Speaker 1>Macpherson with Free Leitch and Caleb Vond coming up tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Former Prime Minister John Howard reveals his greatest regret, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not being beaten in an election by Kevin Rudd

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<v Speaker 1>at something far more embarrassing than that. Plus, when we

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<v Speaker 1>get to the papers, Jim Chalmers sets his sights on

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<v Speaker 1>tax reform, which we all know means tax increases. The

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<v Speaker 1>Australian covers that well tomorrow. Plus good news for childless

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<v Speaker 1>couples with one state offering two thousand dollars towards IVF treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that shortly, but first, Anthony Albanezi is fast

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<v Speaker 1>becoming that klingy X who mysteriously always shows up at

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite cafe just accidentally muttering about how it's good

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<v Speaker 1>to bump into each other. Except the object of the

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister's affection is not an old flame. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>US President Donald Trump. Having been ghosted at the G

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<v Speaker 1>seven when Trump had to cancel a scheduled twenty minute

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<v Speaker 1>coffee meeting, Anthony Albanese is now planning to deliberately bump

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<v Speaker 1>into Donald Trump at the Hague when NATO meets next week.

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<v Speaker 3>The decision that he made that meant that the meetings

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<v Speaker 3>that were scheduled not just with myself but with India, Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 3>including President Zelenski, Mexico and other countries didn't go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Today it's happening.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Alyes potentionally zero.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's been considered now. Of course, if Albaneze can't

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<v Speaker 1>catch Donald Trump's eye at the Hague, he'll try again

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<v Speaker 1>in September at the United Nations meeting. And if that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work, I suspect Albaneze will take two hiding in

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<v Speaker 1>the bushes at mary Lago and whispering Donald Donald. It's

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<v Speaker 1>me Anthony from the G seven, Caleb. I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>thought that stalking is really an appropriate alliance strategy, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it's starting to look like. He's like a groupie.

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<v Speaker 1>He's looking at the two dates, trying to catch up

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<v Speaker 1>with his favorite people.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, with the specificity with which you described the situation

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<v Speaker 5>of running into the X in the cafe, I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 5>whether you've had one of these encounters yourself, James.

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<v Speaker 2>Or whether in fact you were the stalker. Would you

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<v Speaker 2>care to tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Us nothing in comparison to Anti Albanesi.

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<v Speaker 5>Well done, any country, he dodged that one. He dodged

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<v Speaker 5>that one. I mean, for goodness sake, he's already in

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<v Speaker 5>the region. He's in Canada, where, of course he was

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<v Speaker 5>hoping to meet Donald Trump. So why can't he get

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<v Speaker 5>on the blower and organize a meeting at the White

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<v Speaker 5>House while he's over there, Like, you know, Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 5>not going anywhere at the moment. He's not about fly

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<v Speaker 5>it's about the fly planes himself into Iran. He is

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<v Speaker 5>in the United States, so why can't he just pop

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<v Speaker 5>over the border down south, go and say hello to

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<v Speaker 5>the president, unless, of course the President doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 5>host him at the White House, which would be unusual

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<v Speaker 5>because he's had everyone at the White House basically, or

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<v Speaker 5>he is too scared to go to the White House

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<v Speaker 5>because he doesn't want to be in Donald Trump's quarters

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<v Speaker 5>where Donald Trump can control the conversation and of course

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<v Speaker 5>can control the media conversation as he has done previously,

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<v Speaker 5>particularly with President Zelenski and Silramoposa, etc. And this business

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<v Speaker 5>you see there he's saying, oh, well, you know, he

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<v Speaker 5>missed other meetings as well, and he cites specifically the

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<v Speaker 5>Mexican president. Trump picked up the phone to the Mexican president.

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<v Speaker 5>He also picked up the phone to a narentromoting from India.

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<v Speaker 5>So he has taken the time to talk to other

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<v Speaker 5>world leaders that he was meant to meet at the

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<v Speaker 5>G seven and he didn't meet because he left early.

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<v Speaker 5>And he hasn't done that for Anthony Albanesi. Part of it,

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<v Speaker 5>I think is he's stringing it along as long as

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<v Speaker 5>he can, as much as he can to scare Albanezi

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit and make him feel like the bloke

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't want to talk to him, so that when they're

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<v Speaker 5>finally in a room together, maybe Alba will just fall

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<v Speaker 5>over him, cave on stuff like military spending, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 5>because you'll be so trepidacious about how this meeting is

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<v Speaker 5>going to go because he's blown him off for so long.

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<v Speaker 6>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>No, this is totally a negotiating tactic by Trump draw

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<v Speaker 4>out the length of time till they can have their meeting.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's already been nine months that Albanezi has

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<v Speaker 4>not had a meeting, and so it is pretty shocking.

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<v Speaker 4>But what is interesting is the different treatment that the

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<v Speaker 4>UK is getting versus Australia at the G seven summit,

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<v Speaker 4>even though Trump was there for barely twenty four hours,

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<v Speaker 4>they still managed to sign a trade agreement which gave

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<v Speaker 4>them tariff.

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<v Speaker 6>Exemptions on some things.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet Australia has experienced none of that, and part of

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<v Speaker 4>that is because the UK has consistently met their defense

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<v Speaker 4>spend targets two percent of GDP now Kis Starmer says

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<v Speaker 4>they're going up to three percent, whereas in Australia, since

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<v Speaker 4>Labor came into government, we haven't even spent.

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<v Speaker 6>Two percent of GDP on defense.

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<v Speaker 4>We haven't even reached that target, let alone the three

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<v Speaker 4>point five percent that hag Seth wants a kiss.

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<v Speaker 1>Darman did go to the White House too, kiss the ring,

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<v Speaker 1>as it were.

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<v Speaker 5>Chase.

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<v Speaker 1>Something else from the G seven meeting that not many

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<v Speaker 1>people picked up on, but there was this little exchange

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<v Speaker 1>between Italian Prime Minister Georgio Mlani and Emanuel Macron. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure what's going on here, See if you can

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<v Speaker 1>work it out. Nothing official yet.

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<v Speaker 6>They haven't turned on the microphones, and sometimes you can

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<v Speaker 6>pick something up in the side conversations, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks a little bit like Macron's told her a

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<v Speaker 1>joke or something like they talk about someone else and

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<v Speaker 1>she's rolled her eyes or she's rolling her eyes at

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<v Speaker 1>the French president.

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<v Speaker 4>No, as woman's a woman, I know. That is the

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<v Speaker 4>eye roll of a gossip session. They are definitely sitting

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<v Speaker 4>there gossiping about someone else around that table, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>And to be honest, that's exactly how I would react

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<v Speaker 4>if I were Trump and Albanezi rocked up at the

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<v Speaker 4>White House, big eye roll.

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't find a gossip session with Georgia Maloney to

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<v Speaker 5>be perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>She seems like a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 5>Apart from the fact that she's a good right wing

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<v Speaker 5>leader over in Europe and cares about all the things

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<v Speaker 5>that we hear about immigration, etc. The most recent polling

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<v Speaker 5>shows that her party has increased its vote from when

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<v Speaker 5>she won in twenty twenty two. Apart from all that,

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<v Speaker 5>she just seems like the sort of person you'd want

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<v Speaker 5>to hang out with. She's previously repudiated Joe Biden as

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<v Speaker 5>well when he rocked up to a meeting late. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's the kind of straight shooter I like. While we're

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<v Speaker 5>talking about immigration staying in Europe in the United Kingdom

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<v Speaker 5>three years ago or four years ago, three years ago, actually, sorry,

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<v Speaker 5>in twenty twenty two, they had a review into, of course,

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<v Speaker 5>the grooming gangs, which we've talked about many times here

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<v Speaker 5>on this program that we're operating for decades in the

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<v Speaker 5>United Kingdom, mostly made up of Pakistani men who were

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<v Speaker 5>systematically grooming young girls in the United Kingdom for sexual abuse.

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<v Speaker 5>And one of the major recommendations of this report in

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty two was that there should be a central

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<v Speaker 5>database that has data on the ages, sexes, and ethnicities

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<v Speaker 5>of both victims and perpetrators of child sexual abuse. It

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<v Speaker 5>seems fair, particularly when you've had to deal with these

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<v Speaker 5>grooming gangs, which, as I said, consisted mostly of Pakistani men.

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<v Speaker 5>Clearly there was an issue in that community, and so

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<v Speaker 5>the review says, we need a clear picture of who

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<v Speaker 5>is perpetrating these crimes in this country and upon whom

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<v Speaker 5>they are perpetrating them. Well, would you believe it the

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<v Speaker 5>numbers that are being collected when they have a case

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<v Speaker 5>of someone who is convicted of child sexual abuse, the

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<v Speaker 5>numbers of them with which they actually have the ethnicity recorded,

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<v Speaker 5>is declining. Funny about that, isn't it. Back in twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 5>when they first started recording these numbers, there were only

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<v Speaker 5>two hundred and forty eight cases where they did not

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<v Speaker 5>take the ethnicity. Now twenty twenty four, which is the

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<v Speaker 5>latest numbers you can see on the screen there, it's

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<v Speaker 5>risen to more than one thousand. The number of cases

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<v Speaker 5>for offenses on people under the age of sixteen where

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<v Speaker 5>they don't record the ethnicity has gone from eighteen percent

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<v Speaker 5>to thirty two percent. For the offensive sexual assault of

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<v Speaker 5>a female child under thirteen, the number of offenders whose

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<v Speaker 5>ethnicity was not recorded increased from twenty one percent to

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<v Speaker 5>thirty four percent.

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<v Speaker 2>And the ethnicity of.

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<v Speaker 5>Criminals committing rape of a female child under thirteen recorded

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<v Speaker 5>in twenty seventeen was twenty four percent and increased to

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<v Speaker 5>thirty five percent last year. Now, you might recall in

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<v Speaker 5>the last year or so the issue of grooming gang's

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<v Speaker 5>has come back up again because of course the Prime

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<v Speaker 5>Minister is Serkis Stamer, and he was a prosecutor at

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<v Speaker 5>the time, the chief prosecutor at the time that many

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<v Speaker 5>of these cases were being run. So it came back

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<v Speaker 5>into the spotlight. And concurrently, it would seem they're running

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<v Speaker 5>a mile from the idea of actually recording the ethnicities

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<v Speaker 5>the major recommendation out of the report into these grooming gangs,

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<v Speaker 5>and the only reason you can think of that they

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<v Speaker 5>would be doing that is because they are worried of

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<v Speaker 5>being called racist.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's absolutely outrageous. First, it shows they've learned nothing

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<v Speaker 1>from the inquiries into the grooming gangs, and I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the thousands of young girls who were abused and at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, no one wanted to talk about race, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that empowered those men to carry on. So they've

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<v Speaker 1>learned nothing and they're clearly avoiding ethnicity out of a

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<v Speaker 1>misplaced sense of fairness. Kimmi Badnock told a story about

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<v Speaker 1>how one mother complained that her child had been taken

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<v Speaker 1>by Asian men, and the police immediately zeroed in on

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<v Speaker 1>the mother's language, the use of Asian, and the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>was all about her racism rather than about the fact

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<v Speaker 1>her child was missing. So they've learned nothing. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course these statistics colored just show that the public confidence

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<v Speaker 1>is shattered, because why would you believe anything But it's

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<v Speaker 1>a deliberate cover up. It makes the mistakes of the

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<v Speaker 1>past more likely to be repeated, because you need that

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<v Speaker 1>the ethnicity of offenders is relevant. It's relevant to see

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<v Speaker 1>whether there are patterns where the public policy should be adjusted,

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<v Speaker 1>where you should allocate resources and dare I say it

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<v Speaker 1>might be relevant for immigration policy. But the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>really caught my attention was they said the three reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why they believe police were so reluctant to record ethnicity

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<v Speaker 1>was they didn't want to be accused of racism, They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to raise tensions, and they didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>upset community cohesion. If the community cohesion is so fragile

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't list the ethnicity of a child abuser,

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<v Speaker 1>then I would suggest you've got bigger problems even than

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<v Speaker 1>the raping gangs. You've got a massive civil problem with

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<v Speaker 1>cohesion exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>And in two thirds of the grooming gang cases, the

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<v Speaker 4>ethnicity of the perpetrators were not recorded and it meant

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<v Speaker 4>it took them longer to actually establish what was happening,

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<v Speaker 4>which is an absolute tragedy. You think about the thousands

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<v Speaker 4>of lives that were wind and just because a few

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<v Speaker 4>police didn't want to be accused of being racist, it's

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<v Speaker 4>an abomination. But here in Australia we also don't record

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<v Speaker 4>the ethnicity of criminals, which I think is also outrageous.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to start recording that here in Australia because,

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<v Speaker 4>as you mentioned, it is relevant for immigration policy. For example,

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<v Speaker 4>Denmark in the early nineties took in about three hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and twenty Palestinian refugees. Within thirty years, twenty two percent

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<v Speaker 4>of them had received prison sentences. Meanwhile, we've just accepted

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<v Speaker 4>three thousand Gazans on tourist.

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<v Speaker 6>Visas with minimal vetting.

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<v Speaker 4>If those trends are replicated, we've got a huge community

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<v Speaker 4>crime problem that is going to occur here as well.

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<v Speaker 6>It is relevant.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not racist to point out the obvious, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>not racist to say, hey, let's accept people into our

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<v Speaker 4>country who share our values. That's about protecting all of

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<v Speaker 4>us rather than protecting your feelings, and.

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<v Speaker 2>They can inflating.

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<v Speaker 5>I think in many cases race with culture, because it's

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<v Speaker 5>not necessarily the race of someone that may dictate whether

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<v Speaker 5>or not they are more predisposed to commit these kinds

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<v Speaker 5>of crimes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's culture.

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<v Speaker 5>And we cannot get away from the fact that there

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<v Speaker 5>are parts of the world where things like child marriages,

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<v Speaker 5>child brides are accepted. There are parts of the world

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<v Speaker 5>where female genital mutilation is accepted. It's not caused by

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<v Speaker 5>their race. It's caused by their culture, the part of

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<v Speaker 5>the world that they come from. Of course, of course

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<v Speaker 5>ethnicity often informs that. And if we sit around and say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, it's their culture, so we can't possibly discuss

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<v Speaker 5>whether or not that's good or bad or not, we

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<v Speaker 5>do a disservice to people in Western countries. We cannot

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<v Speaker 5>get away from the fact that there are other cultures

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<v Speaker 5>that unfortunately have facets of them that are not compatible

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<v Speaker 5>with us.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, another area that seems to be having a few

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<v Speaker 4>culture issues is the highly unionized train drivers of London.

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<v Speaker 4>A train driver in London has been sacked after he

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<v Speaker 4>was caught watching videos and knitting while driving a train.

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<v Speaker 4>Keep in mind these drivers are paid seventy two thousand

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<v Speaker 4>pounds a year. That's one hundred and fifty thousand Australian dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>Check this out.

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<v Speaker 1>Half of a train driver.

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<v Speaker 4>Knit watching TV a couple of busay back to the

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<v Speaker 4>year going drag whenever. Well, he's getting paid one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and fifty grand a year to press a couple buttons

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<v Speaker 4>while watching a video and doing his knitting.

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<v Speaker 6>How is that fair?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, his colleagues needled him apparently over that, but

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<v Speaker 1>as you expect, the union defended him because they're close enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Bunch well done. I mean, look, if it's that, if it's.

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<v Speaker 5>That easy to drive a train, I don't know why

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<v Speaker 5>we're not all signing up for it. Because because when

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<v Speaker 5>they were talking about the train drivers going on strike

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<v Speaker 5>here in New South Wales, in Sydney, well, I mean

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<v Speaker 5>some of them are on more than the equivalent that

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<v Speaker 5>they're on one hundred and fifty odd k a year,

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<v Speaker 5>even better than one hundred and fifty odd k a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty three days of leave. So that's eight and.

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<v Speaker 5>A half weeks of annual leave, which is extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if they have deals where they work

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<v Speaker 5>through public holidays like I do. I even had a

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<v Speaker 5>public holiday for years and so I get a few

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<v Speaker 5>extra weeks of leave for that, but even then I

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<v Speaker 5>only get an extra two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get extra four and a half weeks for it.

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<v Speaker 5>There's also a case that came up today here in

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<v Speaker 5>Australia of a train driver in Brisbane who went through

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<v Speaker 5>a red light and their excuse for that was that

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<v Speaker 5>they had a sneezing fit. So it seems it's all

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<v Speaker 5>going on with the trains at the moment. And if

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<v Speaker 5>you thought that was bad, how about Bill Shorten? Of course,

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<v Speaker 5>you know he's left federal politics now after failing to

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<v Speaker 5>do anything about the NDAs. He's gone off to run

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<v Speaker 5>Australian National University and as the vice chancellor he seems

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<v Speaker 5>to be well sacking staff and then making videos for Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>University of Canberra.

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<v Speaker 5>I should say, not an you, what on earth is

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<v Speaker 5>he doing? Like? Okay, we see this so often and

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<v Speaker 5>Bill Shorten's not the first time. Bill Shortens started Remember

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<v Speaker 5>during the twenty nineteen election campaign when he decided it

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<v Speaker 5>would be a good look to seem as though he

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<v Speaker 5>were exercising more, and so he donned his gear and

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<v Speaker 5>started going for runs. I think there was one particularly,

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<v Speaker 5>I remember along near the Opera House there and he's

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<v Speaker 5>got the man boobs bobbing up and down and it's like, mate,

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<v Speaker 5>you are trying too hard.

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<v Speaker 2>What on earth is he He's on.

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<v Speaker 5>Nearly a million dollars a year and he's making nonsensical

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<v Speaker 5>Instagram videos.

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<v Speaker 1>He went from doing nothing on four hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in parliament to doing nothing on eight hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars at the University of Canberra, But the joke

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<v Speaker 1>is on academics because of course typically academics all vote labor.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Shortens, the new vice chancellor, has got rid of

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<v Speaker 1>what one hundred and fifty staff to save thirty million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars while he makes TikTok videos and.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I am not anti fun TikTok. I must say

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<v Speaker 4>that it can be done well. During the federal election,

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<v Speaker 4>the Liberal Party did create some great social media content.

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<v Speaker 6>But it has to be good like you can't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I did say that wasn't good.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's so embarrassing. And also no one knows what

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<v Speaker 4>it means. I am a gen z, I am a

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<v Speaker 4>digital native and I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>Even know what that means.

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<v Speaker 4>It's incomprehensible. The caption was unlocked.

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<v Speaker 6>A new character. Who's the character? Maybe Bill Shortens the character.

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<v Speaker 1>The irony is as bad as that video from Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Shorton was. It's not his worst performance on video. Have

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<v Speaker 1>a look at this. Some of you will remember it.

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<v Speaker 5>So I haven't seen what she said, but let me

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<v Speaker 5>say I support what it is that she said.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on, you haven't seen what she said, but I.

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<v Speaker 3>Support what my Prime minister said, so well, what's your view?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my view is what the Prime minister's view is.

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<v Speaker 1>A stick to TikTok videos. I reckon. Here's the irony.

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<v Speaker 1>While Bill Shorten is earning eight hundred and sixty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a year as the vice chancellor at the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Canberra, the survey out today shows that nine million

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<v Speaker 1>Australians or more have less than one thousand dollars savings

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<v Speaker 1>in the bank. Of those nine million people, the average

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<v Speaker 1>saving is about two hundred and fifteen dollars, which incidentally

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<v Speaker 1>is about the average grocery shop in this country. All

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<v Speaker 1>of which means it's about nine million ossies who if

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<v Speaker 1>they get an unexpected bill or God forbid a parking

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<v Speaker 1>fine in the Northern Beaches, then they literally would be

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<v Speaker 1>in serious trouble, an incredibly precarious situation. This represents the

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<v Speaker 1>massive disconnect between people like Bill Shorten, people like the

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<v Speaker 1>Reserve Bank governor who's on over a million dollars making

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<v Speaker 1>decisions about how Australians will live their lives, far removed

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<v Speaker 1>from the struggles of ordinary people. And then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>people like Jim Chalmers at the Press club today talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how the government's done a great job. Remember they

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<v Speaker 1>came to office promising to address cost of living, to

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<v Speaker 1>raise living standards, and he was patting himself on the

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<v Speaker 1>back at the Press Club, believing he had done a

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<v Speaker 1>great job when in actual fact, nine million Aussies less

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<v Speaker 1>than a thousand bucks in the bank.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, it is obvious that most Australians are

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<v Speaker 5>doing it tough. The average savings, and of course average

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<v Speaker 5>takes you from the zero right through to the top

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<v Speaker 5>end of the tree. The average actually comes out to

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<v Speaker 5>forty three thousand dollars that people have in the bank.

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<v Speaker 5>That clearly means there are lots of people with nothing

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<v Speaker 5>in the bank and quite a few people with a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of money in the bank. To draw that average up,

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<v Speaker 5>it's the medians. Normally in these cases that will be

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<v Speaker 5>far more valuable, which will be much lower than forty

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<v Speaker 5>three thousand dollars. But notwithstanding the fact that we've had

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<v Speaker 5>a cost of living crisis, and clearly there are a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of people who are living hand to mouth week

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<v Speaker 5>to week, struggling to get by, I think it also

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<v Speaker 5>proves that we have a crisis of financial literacy in

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<v Speaker 5>this country. I mean, even if you are earning minimal money,

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<v Speaker 5>you can find a way to save a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>of money, and you have to. I would argue you

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely have to, because I know how hard it can be.

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<v Speaker 5>But you're doing yourself a disservice if you're not saving.

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<v Speaker 5>Even if it's ten dollars a week, just putting that

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<v Speaker 5>money aside for a rainy day is a very valuable

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<v Speaker 5>thing to do, and it would seem clear to me

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<v Speaker 5>that we're either not teaching people about that or we've

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<v Speaker 5>lost the idea, the value of the idea of saving.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, when I started as a cadet, and you

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<v Speaker 5>know you don't earn a lot a lot of money

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<v Speaker 5>as a cadet. As you well know, James, that you

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<v Speaker 5>would have been earning much lest when you started as

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<v Speaker 5>a cadet than when I started ten years ago. But

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<v Speaker 5>I told myself I needed to have at least ten

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<v Speaker 5>grand in savings and at least two grand in my

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<v Speaker 5>spending account at all times.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I get below.

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<v Speaker 5>That number, as I have once or twice, I get

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<v Speaker 5>genuinely anxious about it because I do think, what.

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<v Speaker 2>If something happens now, how am I going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to deal with I don't know how people are

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<v Speaker 2>living like this.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think it's not just even people who are saving.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone is experiencing the cost of living crisis. We've had

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<v Speaker 4>the worst decline in living standards in Australia's recorded history,

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<v Speaker 4>the worst decline in the OECD. Well, the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>the world is going forward, Australia is moving backwards. And

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<v Speaker 4>the only reason we're not seeing mass outrage about this

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<v Speaker 4>is because the government has decided to import a whole

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of migrants to artificially prop up our economy. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 4>the per capita rate of economic growth, which is what's

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<v Speaker 4>actually happening on an individual basis, has been going backwards,

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<v Speaker 4>when backwards for twenty one months. Briefly in the last

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<v Speaker 4>quarter of last year we saw a tiny bit of

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<v Speaker 4>growth in GDP bo capita, and now again in the

0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:18.000
<v Speaker 4>first quarter of this year it's back into negative territory.

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<v Speaker 4>This is simply unsustainable for Australians, but hey, that's the

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<v Speaker 4>price of a labor government. Another person who's going to

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<v Speaker 4>ruin an entire economy is one of the potential candidates.

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<v Speaker 6>For the New York marialty.

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<v Speaker 4>His name is Zorhan Mumdani, and he is a radical progressive.

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<v Speaker 4>He calls himself a democratic socialist, and like any good lefty,

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<v Speaker 4>he has no life experience. His entire policy platform consists

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<v Speaker 4>of wanting to tax billionaires and somehow create a utopia.

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<v Speaker 4>And he is extremely anti Israel so according to this article,

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<v Speaker 4>in his whole time since graduating college he graduated in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 6>And was elected to the New York State Assembly in.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty twenty, he was only actually employed for three years,

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<v Speaker 4>and basically his whole life he's lived in subsidized housing.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of the careers he's chosen have been rather interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>One was his failed attempt to become a rapper.

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<v Speaker 6>Check this out.

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<v Speaker 5>For you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm go ahead, make a rap for your nanni.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get.

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<v Speaker 1>Through.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll give adapt to your nanny if you. Villain has

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<v Speaker 2>been a track.

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<v Speaker 5>For your nanny.

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<v Speaker 4>He is only a couple points behind Andrew Como. He

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<v Speaker 4>was the former governor of New York and he's the

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<v Speaker 4>Democratic Party's establishment pick for the mayor. But in the

0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 4>primaries he's only a couple points behind. And it's pretty

0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:02.720
<v Speaker 4>remarkable because within a couple of months, thanks to the

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<v Speaker 4>endorsement of Alexandria Occasio Cortez, another one of these really

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<v Speaker 4>radical Democrats. He search from polling just one percent to

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<v Speaker 4>now potentially being able to win the primary. Obviously, if

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<v Speaker 4>you win the endorsement of the Democrats, you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>win the mayalty, and so New York could potentially have

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<v Speaker 4>a failed rapper with zero life experience. He wants to

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<v Speaker 4>tax everyone and hates Israel as their mayor.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what you're complaining about this.

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<v Speaker 5>This bloke was employed for four years, and by my count,

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<v Speaker 5>the Prime Minister of Australia, Anthony Alberizi, has only been

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<v Speaker 5>employed outside of politics for two years in his entire life.

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<v Speaker 5>So this bloke has twice as much experience in the

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<v Speaker 5>private sector as our prime minister does. He seems eminently

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<v Speaker 5>qualified to me. I mean, to be perfectly honest. This

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<v Speaker 5>is pretty typical of almost everyone in politics these days.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously in the United States it's often slightly different because

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<v Speaker 5>they get paid a lot less. Over the often have

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<v Speaker 5>people who've spent a life in business or whatever before

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:05.879
<v Speaker 5>they go into politics, simply because you can't really afford

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<v Speaker 5>to go into politics without having some money behind you already.

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<v Speaker 2>But in Australia.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the pipeline to politics for most people is

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<v Speaker 5>you go to university, you get involved in student politics. Paris,

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<v Speaker 5>if you have been involved in student policy, you'll be

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<v Speaker 5>banned from being involved in politics. As there are some

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<v Speaker 5>accepting people are there are some exceptions, but you end

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<v Speaker 5>up with people who are more interested in the politics

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<v Speaker 5>of politics than the results of politics.

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<v Speaker 1>They do that.

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<v Speaker 5>They leave Uni, they go and work in a staffing

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<v Speaker 5>job in someone's office, then they get into a ministerial office,

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<v Speaker 5>and then they run for politics. They've never had any

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<v Speaker 5>real life experience. This guy.

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<v Speaker 1>In the five years he's been in local government in

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>New York, he's missed fifty percent of the votes that

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 1>council has taken. He's got just three bills up, one

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:54.400
<v Speaker 1>of which was free busses, which is one of his policies.

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 1>See if these sound familiar. He's going for free childcare,

0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 1>free busses, government run grow ghost three stores. And how's

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>he going to pay for all this? He's going to

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:07.360
<v Speaker 1>make ten billion dollars by you guessed, at taxing the rich.

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>He's never run anything before, a little alone, a city

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 1>of eight million people, and yet this is how the

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>New York Times described him. They said, he's a charismatic

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:19.399
<v Speaker 1>thirty three year old running a joyful campaign full of

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 1>viral videos. He offers the kind of fresh political style

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 1>for which many are hungry during the angry era of

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:30.120
<v Speaker 1>President Trump. That's quite the glowing endorsement. The New York Times,

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I should say, then went on to say, don't vote

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<v Speaker 1>for again.

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Be a disaster.

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 1>But as he said, Frey, he's coming second, which is

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 1>absolutely incredible. Tell you something else that is incredible, and

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 1>that is Martina Navradlova's memory. Remember Martina, brilliant tennis player

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>in the seventies and eighties. She's lived in America since

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>she was eighteen years old, having sought asylum there when

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 1>she was eighteen. During the nineteen seventy five seventy six

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 1>US Open she defected because, of course, who would want

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:05.119
<v Speaker 1>to live in our homeland of Czechoslovakia, which was then

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:07.679
<v Speaker 1>run by the Soviets. It was a place where your

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 1>phones were tapped, your mail was read. You required a

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:14.159
<v Speaker 1>permit just go from one part of the country to

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.360
<v Speaker 1>another part of the country. So she's done quite well

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 1>for herself in the United States. But she's told media

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:24.680
<v Speaker 1>today that she wouldn't have left Czechoslovakia had she known

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was going to be the president. She said,

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not loyal to Donald Trump. If I were now

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 1>still in that same position as in nineteen seventy five

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 1>in Czechoslovakia and I had to go live somewhere, it

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 1>would not be America because it's not a democracy at

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:41.919
<v Speaker 1>the moment. I mean, people are getting chucked out by

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:45.240
<v Speaker 1>Homeland Security. Who would those people be. They'd be illegal aliens.

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>They're getting chucked out because they're not on board completely

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 1>with Donald Trump's agender or have a valid visa because

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:56.160
<v Speaker 1>they're not kissing the ring. She said, I reckon when

0:26:56.280 --> 0:27:01.880
<v Speaker 1>you say that a former TV are making nasty tweets

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 1>is worse than a Soviet backed regime where they crushed

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:11.120
<v Speaker 1>the scent, jailed dissidents, turned neighbour against neighbor. I'd say,

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>she's not just good at tennise. He's pretty good at gymnastics.

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 1>I would have thought that's quite the mental maneuver.

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 5>I think she's rather lost sight of what she left

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 5>and why she moved to the United States. I mean,

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 5>the election of Donald Trump, the existence of Donald Trump

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 5>as president is proof of why she moved to the

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 5>United States.

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:32.360
<v Speaker 2>It is democracy in action.

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 5>People chose Donald Trump, and they chose the policies he

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 5>stands for, including.

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Getting rid of illegal immigrants.

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:44.200
<v Speaker 5>I mean, the US welcomed Martine and avrattlover with open arms,

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:47.680
<v Speaker 5>and they continue to welcome with open arms people who

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 5>want to move.

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Legally to the United States. And I wish I'd thought

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:52.719
<v Speaker 2>of this here.

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 5>I don't know whether either of you saw the clip

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 5>of Arnold Schwarzenegger on the View overnight where they tried

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:01.360
<v Speaker 5>to stitch him up on this issue of people being deported,

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 5>and he went on a long spiel about how he's

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:05.639
<v Speaker 5>a margaret and he thinks that if you're a migrant

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:07.680
<v Speaker 5>in the United States, you should be grateful for what

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 5>you've been given and you should pay it back. Now,

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 5>Ratlov should be doing exactly the same thing. She is

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:18.160
<v Speaker 5>biting the hand that has fed her. She is partially

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 5>right about people not being allowed into the United States,

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 5>potentially because they've disagreed with Donald Trump. There have been

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 5>reports of people having their phones gone through when they've

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 5>tried to go for holidays and stuff and being sent

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 5>back whence they came, So that is kind of legitimate.

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 5>But to say that, oh, I couldn't go to the

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 5>United States now because it's not a democracy.

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what does she think a democracy is?

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 4>The very fact that she's able to get into the

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 4>media and openly criticize Donald Trump is proof that America

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 4>is not a totalitarian state. If she tried criticizing the

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 4>communist regime in the seventies in Czechoslovakia, I don't think

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 4>she would have been so free to do so. In fact,

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 4>when she affected to the US, her family that was

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 4>still in the Czech Republic or the Soviet controlled Czechoslovakia

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 4>were unable to even speak about her publicly.

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 6>Like that was the level of censorship.

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 4>I think it's rather insulting to the millions of victims

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 4>of communist repression that she's now trying to draw a

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 4>parallel between the two.

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I read those comments and thought she has strung

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>her racket a little too tight.

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 6>I think exactly right.

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 4>Look, there is a really controversial Christmas Day party that

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 4>happens every year. Last year, fifteen thousand backpackers descended onto

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 4>Bronti Beach for a Christmas of Orphans, as they like

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 4>to call it. It was all happy and fun as

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 4>you can imagine, fifteen thousand young backpackers would be. But

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:51.479
<v Speaker 4>the only problem was when they went to clean up,

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 4>they caused about sixty thousand dollars worth of cleaning up

0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 4>and there were a whole bunch of issues with disturb

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 4>Locals were naturally rather unhappy about the whole affair, so

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 4>Waverley Council was petitioned by locals to crack down on

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 4>the revelers and the party goers, either by banning it,

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 4>by making it a ticketed event, or somehow doing something

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:21.479
<v Speaker 4>to mitigate the damage. Waverley Council has decided to let

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 4>the party proceed.

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh they're not going to listen to rappayers, No.

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 4>They want those European backpack is trashing their beach and

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 4>they will, however, add bins and extra police. I personally

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 4>think Sydney's nightlife has been destroyed.

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 6>It's a very unfun city.

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 4>A lot of councils are literally the bastion of the

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 4>anti fun police.

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 6>So good on the Waverley Council.

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Those images on the screen that was not fun, That

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 1>was anarchy, and it's not nightlife. That was Christmas Day

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's not in the CBD where no one lives.

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>This is in people's local area, and what are the

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>council done? We have more toilets, Well you should have

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>had that last year when fifteen thousand people turned up.

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 1>We'll have security. Might have been a good idea to

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>have that last year. We'll put on more transport. So

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>fifteen thousand people last year without transport, there'll be more

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>people this year. And the classic part of it was

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Mayor will Nemesh said, we're not sure whether these changes

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 1>will make any difference. I guess we'll wait and find out. Well,

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a council that loves the local ratepayers.

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 5>But what are you proposing we put up for the

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 5>event we go all Donald Trump and put up a

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 5>great big wall and say you.

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Not, that's bad idea you would that wouldn't show and

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>people ten dollars entry at least that might cover the sixty.

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 5>Ten dollars sorry, ten dollars entry, ten dollars entry to

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 5>go to a public beach.

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. This is a sacred right in Australia. This

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>is a sacred right in Australia.

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 5>No, no sort of sacred right to trash the joint

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 5>I agree with that, but it is a sacred right

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 5>in Australia to use public beaches. Public beaches are there

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 5>for the benefit of the public. Don't fence them off

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 5>and start telling people they can't go.

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>They fence it off, charge and entry fee to cover

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 1>the cost of cleaning up the absolute garbage that is

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>left there, that you yourself fed. It's an absolute like

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>war zone. Someone's got a why should locals pay for it?

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I did verbal you a little bit better.

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 6>You did a little bit.

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 4>But if you start doing that at Bronzy, guess what,

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 4>They're just going to move to Clavelli or up the

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 4>road to Bundai. And the reality is the backpackers are here.

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 4>Backpackers contribute a lot to our economy and they need

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 4>somewhere to go On Christmas Day, something tells me it's

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 4>not going to be church. If it's not that it's good,

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 4>they're still celebrating by hitting the.

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Beach and the local furious.

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 5>It's no coincidence that James lives in Castle Hill, because

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 5>I think that's exactly what he would like to do.

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 2>He would like to build a car rawbridge up.

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>There'd be crocodiles in the moat and everything would be.

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 5>Bus goodness sake, anyway, before we get to the break,

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 5>and we'll talk a little more about this after the breakers,

0:32:58.320 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 5>we haven't got much time.

0:32:59.240 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 2>We'll expand upon.

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 5>But of course you would have seen the movements overnight

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 5>speaking of war zones in Iran. The latest, of course

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 5>now that the United States is talking about sending their buster,

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 5>their bunker busting So it's a terrible thing to try

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 5>to get your tenge around.

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Bunker busting bombs into Iran.

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 5>They have to go naeti meters underground to destroy the

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 5>most hidden parts of their nuclear armory over there. That

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 5>has been the greatest impediment to stopping them at the

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 5>moment from building a nuclear bomb. Of course, we know

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 5>Israel has been attacking what they can get to above ground,

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 5>but the serious stuff is underground.

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 2>The United States holds the key to that.

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 5>It would seem that Trump is now willing to send

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 5>that over there so Israel will be able to use

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 5>it to Another story that came out overnight was that Mossad,

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 5>of course, the intelligence agency in Israel, had been gathering

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 5>intelligence that they thought it was building up, the likelihood

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 5>was building up that Iran was about to create an

0:33:59.080 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 5>atomic bomb.

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 2>They were worried the United States.

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 5>Sorry, disagreed with that in the first instance, and was

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 5>not sure that they were that far along. It doesn't

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 5>seem to matter that United States have come along anyway.

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 5>And the tweets and whatever that were put out overnight

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 5>by the Iranian military and we haven't seen yet what

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 5>they're referring to, but saying that they're about to do

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 5>something that will be remembered for generations.

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:28.879
<v Speaker 2>Where is this going.

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 1>I think what they're about to do is they're about

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to have their nuclear facilities exploded, because Trump is hinting

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 1>that the US will get involved, not with boots on

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 1>the ground, but they've got the only bombs that are

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>capable of once and for all dealing with Iran's nuclear

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.839
<v Speaker 1>program because if they don't do it now, they will

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 1>be back here in five years, in ten years. So

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>now's the opportunity you might as well do it. And

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Trump's giving every indication he will supply whatever the Israelis need,

0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>perhaps even the planes and the bombs to do the

0:34:59.040 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 1>final job.

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 4>One of the frustrating things watching this conflict unfold have

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 4>been the Kooki Maga supporters like Taker Carlson and Candiso

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 4>and saying, oh see Natanya, who's been saying Iran was

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:13.880
<v Speaker 4>developing a nuclear bomb for like the last twenty years,

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 4>and see US intelligence didn't believe.

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:16.959
<v Speaker 6>It, blah blah blah.

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 4>But they don't realize Israel has been actively preventing Iran

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 4>from developing a nuclear bomb through covert operations for the

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:29.320
<v Speaker 4>last twenty years, hacking into their internal systems, doing stealth

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:34.320
<v Speaker 4>attacks on nuclear facilities. And this is their one opportunity

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 4>to destroy the Iotoler regime once and for all and

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:39.800
<v Speaker 4>cut off the head of Tara.

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Yep, there's more about that in tomorrow's papers. We'll take

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>a look at them in just a moment. Well, the

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 1>queens And newspapers wasted no time. Their front pages are

0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>already available celebrating their torific Origin win in Perth tonight.

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 1>The Courier Males headline reads Morons triumph in Origin classic

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Cam's Heroes, referring of course, to Cameron Munster, who was

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>in his first game as captain tonight, leading Queensland to

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:17.360
<v Speaker 1>a twenty six twenty four victory against New South Wales.

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>The Cam's post, similarly celebrating Moron magic Mighty Morons claims

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:25.720
<v Speaker 1>stunning origin win that makes the series one all, Caleb,

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:27.879
<v Speaker 1>I know you love your AFL, but you'd be into

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the rugby league as well. So the final I think

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 1>is played in Brisbane. I think at lang Park.

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 2>You are asking a wrong person.

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<v Speaker 1>Go the Queenslanders.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you would say that, would you would say that?

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<v Speaker 5>I reckon they should bring back AFIL state of origin.

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<v Speaker 5>I've said this and written about it many times because

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 5>he says go Queensland. He did live up there, but

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<v Speaker 5>he's originally from Victoria. Story, what hell you doing calling

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<v Speaker 5>yourself at Queensland and anyway, but I'd like to see

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<v Speaker 5>AFL state of origin back so you and I can

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<v Speaker 5>go out and have a night at the footy South

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<v Speaker 5>Australia versus Victoria. That'd be some real stuff, wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go to the front of the odds tomorrow where

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<v Speaker 5>it says Charmers moment of truth, the charmer being Jim Charmers,

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<v Speaker 5>of course, not an actual charmer. Jim Charmers has declared

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<v Speaker 5>tax reform is needed to fund growing spending on defense

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<v Speaker 5>and the care economy, while warning that traditional revenue streams

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<v Speaker 5>will be threatened.

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<v Speaker 2>By the net zero transition.

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<v Speaker 5>As he left the door open to raising the gst,

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<v Speaker 5>increasing levies on resources, and charging electric car drivers for

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 5>using roads. But his call for a new era of

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 5>consensus is not extending to the proposed tax on unrealized

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.919
<v Speaker 5>capital gains on high value superannuation funds, as he bound

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<v Speaker 5>to push ahead with the policy Labour took to the

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<v Speaker 5>election despite it being widely panned by economists and business leaders. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>as much as it sounds awful to hear the words

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<v Speaker 5>higher taxes, I should note he is talking about chain

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 5>ringing the tax base, broadening the tax base, so it's

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<v Speaker 5>not necessarily just lack taxes up and everyone pays more tax.

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<v Speaker 2>What he's aiming for, and I think this is a.

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<v Speaker 5>Noble goal, is to eventually reduce the reliance on income

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<v Speaker 5>tax and find other ways of raising tax revenue. There's

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<v Speaker 5>not been any genuine tax reform in this country for

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<v Speaker 5>a very long time. Whether or not his idea of

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 5>tax reform turns out to be the best one, who knows.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm at least glad to see someone for the

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<v Speaker 5>first time in a long time talking about tax reform.

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<v Speaker 1>A love of the fact he's talking about. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>where we're going to get consensus. We've got plenty of courage.

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>We just need consensus to make all these changes. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he's asked, of course, about the most controversial tax,

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<v Speaker 1>the unrealized capital gains tax, which everybody has panned, and

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:51.359
<v Speaker 1>he says, no, no, that's definitely happening. So he says,

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 1>consensus is really important, but he's got consensus, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>bad tax, and he's ignoring the consensus and doing what

0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 1>he wants.

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<v Speaker 4>We also know whenever a politician says we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>build consensus, that's code for we're not going to demonstrate

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<v Speaker 4>any leadership. Because leadership often requires making the hard decisions.

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 4>The hard decisions rarely have consensus or widespread support. Initially,

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<v Speaker 4>think about when the GSD did come in, it was

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:19.839
<v Speaker 4>incredibly difficult to build consensus around that. Obviously, twenty five

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 4>years later we all think it's great. But whenever a

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:25.240
<v Speaker 4>politician says consensus, always be a little bit skeptical.

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<v Speaker 5>Indeed, another story on the front of the Olds tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 5>as we were talking about before the break, I tooler

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<v Speaker 5>Reddy's for a violent end the war in around Risks

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 5>sorry spiraling into a devastating regional conflict now for the country.

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:40.800
<v Speaker 5>Supreme Leader issued a rallying call to his people, and

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump edged closer to green lighting direct US strikes

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<v Speaker 5>to destroy Teyran's nuclear program once, end for all. And

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<v Speaker 5>this is the other part of it as well, is

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<v Speaker 5>that Trump has said, you know, we're going to sassinate

0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 5>you if we wanted to, but we're not going to

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<v Speaker 5>do it just yet. One wonders whether the time comes

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<v Speaker 5>that he does.

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<v Speaker 2>Pull the pin.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other interesting thing in this article that refers

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<v Speaker 1>to a tweet that was put out by the Iatola

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<v Speaker 1>referencing or referring to himself essentially as a personification of

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<v Speaker 1>the successor to Mohammed And it's just a reminder that

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<v Speaker 1>Penny one was all about, we need to de escalate,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to dialogue. For the Iranians, the destructure of

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<v Speaker 1>Israel is a divine mission. This is not about simply politics.

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>It's not about land. Essentially, it's a religious mission that

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<v Speaker 1>they have themselves on and you can't negotiate with people

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And looks like Trump and the Israelis have

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:36.839
<v Speaker 1>decided that is indeed the case, and that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Why diplomacy will never work, because you're not dealing with

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<v Speaker 4>rational actors.

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<v Speaker 6>It's actually part of their religious worldview.

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<v Speaker 4>The graphic he posted of was in reference to the

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<v Speaker 4>Kaibar massacre of Jews, and he's essentially saying, we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to repeat this. That was when hundreds of Jews were slaughtered.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's really distressing and this is the one chance

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<v Speaker 4>they have to take out the regime. I personally think

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<v Speaker 4>they shouldn't assassinate the Ayatola. They should let him watch

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<v Speaker 4>his regime crumble before his eyes and then put him

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<v Speaker 4>on trial and lock him away for the rest of

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:07.399
<v Speaker 4>his life.

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 5>And of course the other thing is well is if

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<v Speaker 5>you take a leader out, you've got to know what

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<v Speaker 5>your next move is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is extreme.

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<v Speaker 5>We see precisely how many times have we interfeed in

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<v Speaker 5>the Middle East and just basically given it all back

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 5>to the maninsa IE, Afghanistan and the Taliban. So if

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:24.400
<v Speaker 5>you're going to make those serious moves, you've got to

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<v Speaker 5>know what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's the thing though. The Iranian people on the

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<v Speaker 4>whole do not support the regime and so it could

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:33.399
<v Speaker 4>be interesting to see whether the Shah will come back.

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<v Speaker 4>He's made a lot of moves on social media him

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<v Speaker 4>think he might if he gets support, so stay tuned

0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:37.800
<v Speaker 4>for that.

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<v Speaker 6>Moving on to the Herald Sun.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, a shocking, shocking case drive through madness. A brazen

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<v Speaker 4>car thief was last night on the run after putting shoppers'

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<v Speaker 4>lives at risks by barreling through Northland Shopping Center in

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<v Speaker 4>a stolen four wheeled four wheel drive in a bid.

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<v Speaker 6>To evade pursuing police.

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<v Speaker 4>A mother and a child were forced to jump out

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 4>of the way of the speeding vehicle, which came within

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:07.719
<v Speaker 4>meters of the other terrified shoppers. So this car to

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 4>evade police literally drove straight through this center of the

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:18.399
<v Speaker 4>shopping center. Now, interestingly, this happened at Northland Shopping Center.

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<v Speaker 4>This is also where the machette incident happened a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of weeks ago. I mean, one, what is going on

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<v Speaker 4>in Victoria, but specifically Northland Shopping Center seems to be

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<v Speaker 4>a bit of a hotbed at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we know what will happen after the machete

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 1>incident at that shopping center. Just into Ellen banned machetes,

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<v Speaker 1>I expect to morroshe'll announced a ban on cruises.

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<v Speaker 4>Land cruisers driving through shopping centers in particular.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, well, now it has to be all Land cruises

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<v Speaker 5>because of because it wasn't a ban on machetes at Northland.

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 5>This was a band on machetes entirely because of course,

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<v Speaker 5>that stops crying. But what goes through your head, like

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<v Speaker 5>it's one thing, Okay, I've stolen the car.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a bit dumb.

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<v Speaker 5>The coppers are on mbum new out. Okay, I'm in

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:01.720
<v Speaker 5>a bit of trouble.

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 2>But at what point do you go.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm now going to risk life and limb and other

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:10.439
<v Speaker 5>people's life and limb, which will get me into far

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 5>more trouble than I ever will for being picked up

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 5>for stealing a car. What possesses you to drive through

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 5>what could have been a packed shopping center to evade police,

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 5>You're asking for trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's a bit of a culture in Victoria

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 1>of do what you want and damn the consequences, because

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.839
<v Speaker 1>oftentimes there are no consequences. Let's go to the front

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:34.720
<v Speaker 1>page of Hobart's Mercury newspaper, two thousand dollars help towards

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 1>IVF reads the headline. Women seeking help to have a

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<v Speaker 1>child will be given greater financial support under an election

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 1>promise to be announced on Thursday by the Liberals, the

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:45.919
<v Speaker 1>state government will pay two thousand dollars towards the cost

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 1>of in vitro fertilization if we elected at next month's

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 1>state election. A similar grant is already available to women

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:57.160
<v Speaker 1>in New South Wales. Anything that helps and encourages people

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<v Speaker 1>to have more children is a great idea. I wish

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:02.279
<v Speaker 1>they put money towards families are trying to adopt kids.

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 1>That'll be a worthy cause as well. But anyway, for

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:10.320
<v Speaker 1>people trying for IVF an incredibly expensive process. Two thousand dollars,

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:12.640
<v Speaker 1>as I understand, is a drop in the bucket, but

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 1>it's something, and I guess all helpers appreciates.

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 2>It's a good point. They could also do another baby bonus.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose.

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<v Speaker 5>I suppose they figured this is a way to do

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<v Speaker 5>it without spending as much money, because if they had

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 5>a baby bonus, they may have to paid a lot more. Now,

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 5>the story on the front of the advertiser, it's our

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<v Speaker 5>interesting one. This housing fix that's out of the box,

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.440
<v Speaker 5>and I keel like solution to the housing crisis is

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 5>being pushed by Premier Peter Malanowskis as he unveils a

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 5>plan to roll out prefabricated homes in essay announcing a

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 5>tender for one hundred and twenty properties in a pilot projects.

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Mister melanowskis so.

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<v Speaker 5>It was an innovative way to deliver more houses faster

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 5>amid a chronic shortage of homes and tradees falls. Walls,

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 5>roof panels and other key components will be manufactured off

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 5>site before being assembled at locations across the state in

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 5>a scheme expected to launch in July. I know we

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:03.320
<v Speaker 5>have a housing crisis and people are desperate for homes,

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 5>and this may well be an easy fix. But as

0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 5>I often ask, when we talk about these things, we

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 5>slap up here, there and everywhere, who actually wants to

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 5>live in these? I know that you need somewhere to live,

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:17.279
<v Speaker 5>and so you'll take anywhere to live, But long term,

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 5>who really wants to live in this?

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's basically a kid home. We've seen these before.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to go to a break when we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>John Howard reveals his most embarrassing his worst moment as

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<v Speaker 1>Prime minister. It's probably not what you think will show you.

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<v Speaker 1>In just a segment we former Prime Minister John Howard

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<v Speaker 1>was speaking at the Intercontinental in Sydney before business leaders

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<v Speaker 1>when he was asked what was his biggest regret all

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<v Speaker 1>of his years in politics? And I suppose that long

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 1>in politics you'd have a few and people expected him

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:51.800
<v Speaker 1>to probably say, you know, maybe being involved in the

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Iraq War, or work choices policy, or maybe losing to

0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Rudd. But none of that was anywhere near as

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 1>embarrassing as his biggest regret, and that is bowling a

0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 1>couple of medium paced deliveries when he was in Pakistan.

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Everyone remembers when he was convinced to bowl a ball

0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 1>at a willing batsman there, and that is an absolute

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 1>time that he has a bowl and that's is his

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:20.239
<v Speaker 1>biggest regret in all those politics. That was the moment

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:21.359
<v Speaker 1>he wishes he could have back.

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<v Speaker 5>I can fully understand why that is his biggest regret,

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:27.920
<v Speaker 5>because what could be more embarrassing than lining up for

0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 5>a good bowl and you just absolutely spray it like that.

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it reminds if someone filmed me when I

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 5>gave cricket a go year four, that's something what it

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 5>would look like. I mean, that was the point when

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 5>I decided, now I'm just going to go and watch

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:44.919
<v Speaker 5>the cricket and drink beer. I'm not going to give

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.359
<v Speaker 5>it a go playing it. But you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know what's what's your sporting prowess?

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<v Speaker 1>Like James, I was all right with a cricket ball,

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:53.839
<v Speaker 1>but better with a tennis ball. Used to take half

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:55.840
<v Speaker 1>of it and get the Yeah, I was lethal with that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well you could always use sandpaper, couldn't you.

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<v Speaker 2>We won't go Lily now. Very strange story.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know why she's decided to come out and

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:07.280
<v Speaker 5>tell this now because it all happened back in the nineties,

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 5>But anyway, it's a warning to people not to go

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:14.320
<v Speaker 5>and marry people in Kenya on a whim. Essentially, this woman,

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:17.239
<v Speaker 5>who at thirty four years old in nineteen ninety four,

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:20.880
<v Speaker 5>was already onto her second husband, took a package holiday

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:24.480
<v Speaker 5>to Kenya and fell in love with a Massi warrior

0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 5>who was ten years her junior while she was over there,

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 5>so she ditched the second husband, shacked up with this fella,

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:33.440
<v Speaker 5>took him back to the Isle of Wight where she

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:37.239
<v Speaker 5>was living. They got married, and she now says, all

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 5>these years later that I felt like I was just

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:43.279
<v Speaker 5>a meal ticket. I made a huge mistake and I

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:48.360
<v Speaker 5>have a lot of regrets. Their marriage only lasted four years.

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<v Speaker 5>Clearly she's been carrying this for some time, because she's

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<v Speaker 5>now decided to tell the Daily Mail about her great

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<v Speaker 5>regret in life was to choose a third husband on

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<v Speaker 5>a package holiday in Kenya. If that's the base she

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<v Speaker 5>did in mud Hut with the dude by the way,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, look, if you're making decisions like that, you

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<v Speaker 5>got problems.

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<v Speaker 6>It is so so bizarre.

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<v Speaker 4>So viewers be warned, watch out next time you're in

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<v Speaker 4>don't ma, don't marry a Kenyan toy boy. Look, in tragedies,

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<v Speaker 4>oftentimes heroes, chivalrous people, they come to the rescue. In Israel,

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<v Speaker 4>they're obviously going through a very difficult time at the moment,

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<v Speaker 4>and the heartthrob of the Holy Land was there to

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<v Speaker 4>save the day. He is a very well built six

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<v Speaker 4>foot two Israeli man who was, as you can see

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<v Speaker 4>on the left there in shorts, with a gun strapped

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<v Speaker 4>to his belt and absolutely nothing else. He ran up

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<v Speaker 4>to this couple's apartment that was about about to collapse

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<v Speaker 4>because it had been bombed by Iran in there, and

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<v Speaker 4>he kicked down the bolted door with his I can't

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<v Speaker 4>take this.

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<v Speaker 6>Story what's wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like you want to go to Israel. You

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<v Speaker 1>can be caught up in the war and be rescued

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<v Speaker 1>by this guy. It's time tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>There's rarey women with big knockers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all from us stick around. Coming up is the

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<v Speaker 1>Reader Penny Show. We'll take care of fray I go,

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<v Speaker 1>She'll be all right.