1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: I get our team. Welcome to another installment the show. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Tiffany and Cook, Bi Anka, Jane and Mary Veronica Chatfield. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 1: We'll start with Cook, who's still just clinging to the 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: remnants of India. Just I just detected a little chink 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: in the nirvana, the kind of the glow. But it's 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: because she's been for an early morning motorbike ride and 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: she's freezing. 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: And Altip wouldn't have done that, would she Oltif wouldn't 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: have got up and started the day with a bit 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: of I don't know, exciting like. 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: That, no early morning meditation out on I read somebody, 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: you know when you your algorithm sends you shit. This 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: My algorithm sent me I get the intersection of bodybuilding 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: and motorbikes and philosophy and spirituality, and I ended up 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: with this. 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: Thing on by the way high Chatters, Good morning, Hi. 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 4: How are you keep going? I'm interested you well. 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: It sent me this video of this professor to talking 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: about the physiological, emotional, and psychological and spiritual benefits of 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: motorbike riding, all these great things that does for you, 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: And I thought, do you know what? While I personally 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: I love this, but I can tell you with absolute 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: certainty that for some people being on a motorbike produces 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: the opposite effect. I think it depends not on the motorbike, 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,639 Speaker 1: but one's relationship with motorbike riding. 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: Have you ever been on a bike? Chatters? 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been on with you. 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 5: That's the only time I reckon I've been on one? 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 5: Was that years ago? 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: Was that fucking terrifying? Or how was it? 31 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 4: I just remember you were very safety conscious. You were 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 4: Are you sure all the gear was on? 33 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 5: And You're like, you want to hang on and don't 34 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 5: do this and don't do that, and I'm like, okay, okay. 35 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: Well, I think at the time I was. I was 36 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: riding with the captain of the Melbourne Vixens and an 37 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: Australian netball team member, so I probably I thought I've 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: got a reasonably valuable commodity. That's what you are, a 39 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: commodity on board or I don't know, human on board, 40 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: and so I was probably a little bit more conscientious 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: than normal. 42 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. 43 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, motorbike riding is not really my thing, 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 5: but I'm happy to have a go. It was all right, 45 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 5: It's certainly not in my algorithm, that's for sure. 46 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: Tip, what's going on? Over there. 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: You look like you've got a cat doing catastrophic things. 48 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 2: Ah, because I didn't shut the cupboard door. Probably want 49 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: to put my motorbike jack away. And now guess who's 50 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: jumping all over the clothes and dragging everything out of 51 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: the cupboard. 52 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: Well, do you want to turn your mic coffin? Go 53 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: and attend to that, and I'll talk to chatters. Thank you, 54 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: I will do that, all right, You go and do that. Bianca? 55 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 3: What's news? How are you? 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 5: Do? 57 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: You know what? 58 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 4: I'm pretty good. 59 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 5: I feel like I just life has been crazy the 60 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 5: last couple of years, becoming a mom. And I don't 61 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 5: even think I've been on here since I've. 62 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 4: Had my daughter. 63 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: How old is she now? 64 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 4: So she's two and a half? 65 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: Wow? 66 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 5: And yeah, I feel like I just well, we all 67 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 5: just bunk it down, as I'm sure many. 68 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 4: Other parents relate. 69 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 5: Just bunk it down and you can get done and 70 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 5: the rest of the time you enjoyed just hanging around 71 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 5: the house and finding, you know, finding the little things, 72 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 5: because they certainly do, that's for sure. 73 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean, your background is pretty diverse, so you know, 74 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: elite athlete playing for Australia World Cup comm Games gold 75 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: medalers captaining arguably the best team in the world, as 76 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: in the Melbourne Vixen's club team in the world. For 77 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: quite a long time, you were a school teacher who 78 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: actually who actually did the training and then went and taught, 79 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: unlike many teachers who do teaching and then go and 80 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: work in a bar, you know. And you were a 81 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: business owner for quite a while. I think you had 82 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: a f forty five or two. You're a TV presenter. 83 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: You were the host of the Woman's Footy show. 84 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: You like you call the Netty. 85 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: You do a lot of corporate speaking, you do educational stuff, 86 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: you work. What kind of determines what you put your 87 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: energy into and what has your attention. 88 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a really good question. I don't think I 89 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 5: was ever very good at managing it. I mean, you've 90 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 5: known me for a long time. Like I used to 91 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 5: just do everything, say yes to everything. And I think 92 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 5: there's definitely a time and a place where that's a 93 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 5: benefit to do that. And as I've gotten a bit 94 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 5: older and a bit smarter and a bit probably more 95 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 5: understanding of who I am really and what I feel 96 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 5: passionate about, what really drives me and what you know, 97 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 5: fills my cup like a big one on just energy 98 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 5: and just making sure what you're doing is actually giving 99 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 5: you energy and not draining it from you. And so 100 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 5: I think, especially the last couple of years, like my 101 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 5: boundaries have got so much stronger in saying no to 102 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 5: things that I don't think will you know, be of 103 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 5: good use to me or something that I'll enjoy doing. 104 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 5: But I very much find myself now in the place 105 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 5: of working still in the leadership space, working with people 106 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 5: because I love that and that you know, does obviously 107 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 5: tie into the education piece as well from my past, 108 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 5: and then also on the other side of it being 109 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 5: in the media hosting. I work with Fox Sports, so 110 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 5: Fox Netball, I'm doing a bit of Fox Cricket this summer. 111 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 5: That stuff really fills my cup too, because I love 112 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 5: the adrenaline rush that you get of live TV. And 113 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 5: it's like being an athlete. It's sink or swim if 114 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 5: you do your prep and you make sure you know 115 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 5: as much as you can, like when you're on air, 116 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 5: if something stuffs up, then you just got to be 117 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 5: able to you know, figure it out. And I love 118 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 5: that feeling it really. Yeah, it's probably more of an 119 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 5: adrenaline junkie trying to chase that feeling. But that's what 120 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 5: I love about doing live TV. And there's just, you know, 121 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 5: plenty of room for people to give your feedback if 122 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 5: they were on the which you can open or not whatever. 123 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 5: But it's just I like being able to kind of 124 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 5: spend my time in both of those worlds from a 125 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 5: work capacity, and I like having that balance. And I 126 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 5: always used to think it was actually balance is the 127 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 5: wrong work because it's never balanced. But I used to 128 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 5: think I had to have one not title, but just 129 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 5: I would myself. And listening to that bio, I get 130 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 5: I'm like overwhelmed and exhausted because I'm like, sure, I've 131 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 5: done a lot of things, but what I just want 132 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 5: to put your hand on one thing that you can 133 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 5: do one thing, And I'm like, no, I don't want 134 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 5: to ever have to narrow myself down. 135 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 4: I love being able to do lots of different things. 136 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: I feel like with somebody like you, who when you're young, 137 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: you know you're a really good athlete and your idea 138 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: is a good athlete. So there's always going to be 139 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: people clamoring for you to be involved with them. And 140 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: then off the back of being a good athlete, comes 141 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: other opportunities, and like you said, you just say yes 142 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: to a lot of stuff because it's all new and 143 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: exciting and you're building relationships and new doors are opening 144 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: and you're like, fuck, I'll give that a go. 145 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: But then you and I was a little. 146 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: Bit like that when I opened my gyms and started 147 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: doing radio stuff and writing for different outlets, and new 148 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: things arise and you just kind of say yes a lot. 149 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: But I feel like when you get. 150 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: Older, not that you're old, but you're in your forties, 151 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: so you know, fucking spring chicken, let's be honest, you 152 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: know your middle age, let's be honest. Not But I 153 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: think we can become a lot more intentional with our living, 154 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: like living consciously and proactively rather than unconsciously and reactively, 155 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: where we start to almost design our life other than 156 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: just say yes or no toe stuff that just comes along. 157 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, I totally agree with that. 158 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 5: And it's and I don't know if that coincided with 159 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 5: me becoming a mum as well and having this whole 160 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 5: emotional layout to what it is to leave the house 161 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 5: or to not be around for her, the intention of 162 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 5: taking on things that mean I leave the house, like 163 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 5: you have to really want to do it, because you 164 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 5: know what it does for everybody else who is, whether 165 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 5: it's you know, Mark, my partner, he's at home, you know, 166 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 5: if I'm traveling into state, and so much of my 167 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 5: work ends up being into state, which I do love, 168 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 5: but that also, you know, adds the extra pressure at 169 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 5: home to be able to do that. 170 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: So I'm fortunate that we've been able to make that 171 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 4: all work. 172 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 5: But I certainly, yeah, I think becoming a mum, the 173 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 5: boundaries have had to become a lot stronger. 174 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 4: And also, yeah, you. 175 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 5: Don't want to let this little girl down when you're 176 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 5: not around, if you're doing something that's not actually you know, 177 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 5: for the for the best. 178 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 4: Of both of us and all of us, and for 179 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 4: me as well. 180 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: I would imagine that as soon as you become a parent, 181 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: that you're looking at the world through a different lens, 182 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: like you know, and so everything is different just by 183 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: virtue of now there's three not two, you know, and 184 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: versus even being in a relationship with Mark, you know, 185 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: there's two, not one, but now there's three, and so 186 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: it's not like you even need to try to be 187 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: different or try to think differently. That's an automatic byproduct 188 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: of what is now your new reality, right, Yeah. 189 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 5: And I mean so much of the work that I've 190 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 5: done in the past, whether it's you know, leadership speaking, 191 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 5: working in businesses, working with moms, I just have this 192 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 5: kind of part of me that I'm like, oh, I 193 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 5: never really understood what they were going through as much 194 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 5: as I would say, this is how you get the 195 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 5: best out of yourself, you know, if you get up 196 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 5: in the morning and you've got. 197 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 4: A good routine and blah blah blah blah. 198 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 5: I used to think that was so important, and I 199 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 5: know it is and it certainly has a place, but 200 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 5: just this is on stuff like that that I realized. 201 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, I'm a mum of one child, 202 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 5: let alone moms and parents multiple children sometimes not possible. 203 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 5: It's absolutely okay that it can be impossible to be 204 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 5: able to get up and set your day up in 205 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 5: that way because these little people need you and wake 206 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 5: you up at whenever they feel like waking you up, 207 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 5: and who knows what the night before has been like, 208 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 5: And so that just adds a whole nother layer of complexity, 209 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 5: I think, to people's lives. And yeah, I felt for 210 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 5: a while I was like Oh, I never really got it, 211 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 5: and now I get it that little bit more too. 212 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 5: When I'm out speaking to a lot of mums, especially mums, 213 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 5: working mums, you know, because it's tough to be able 214 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 5: to do all of that. 215 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: It just dawned on me the differences but also the 216 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: similarities between you and Tif. You're both forty two. She's 217 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: an athlete, she's a boxer. She's a short blonde who 218 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: punches people in the face. You're a tall brunette who 219 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: used to stop women from shooting goals for a long time. 220 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: Is it? 221 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: I think, like, what's interesting about you two both is 222 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: that both of you. 223 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. 224 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: I haven't spent a lot of time with you over 225 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: the last few years, but so I'm not sure. But 226 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,479 Speaker 1: definitely with Tiff for a long time, but she's softening. 227 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: There was Tiff was like simultaneously wearing a baseball cap 228 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: that said fuck off and a T shirt that said 229 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: give us a hug. Though, right, so there was a 230 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: little bit come here, fuck off, and you had a 231 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,359 Speaker 1: bit of that, like when when you were a young athlete, 232 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: you were a motherfucker on the court, you were a 233 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: sweetheart off it, but you're a complete bitch on it. 234 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, right, you weren't the friendliest or the warmest. 235 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: You were highly competitive. But I feel like both of 236 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: you have softened. Am I right or no? 237 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 4: Oh? Definitely for me, and I think the minute. 238 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 5: I walked off the court as an athlete, I definitely 239 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 5: started to soften and lose that competitiveness where I really 240 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 5: wanted to do anything to win and I'd take down 241 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 5: anyone that was in my way, like I was very 242 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 5: much driven like that, and I mean, it's exhausting, but 243 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 5: I definitely the minute I walked off the court, and 244 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 5: I've never stepped back on the court, not even socially, 245 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 5: because I almost know how dangerous that will be for me, 246 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 5: for like physically and injuries, but also mentally. I'm like, 247 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 5: I just don't want to put myself in that position 248 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 5: because I know that I'll probably hurt somebody if I 249 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 5: went out there on court and tried to play like 250 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 5: I used to and tif I wonder if that would 251 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 5: be the same for you whenever. I guess boxing is 252 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 5: something that can be always in your life, but I 253 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 5: wonder how you'll feel once you kind of stop that 254 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 5: competitiveness of it all. 255 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: It's it's I'm going through an interesting time at the moment, 256 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: and a big part of I just had a trip 257 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: to India which brought about a massive shift for me, 258 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: and part of that before I went away was wanting 259 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: to step away from the identity of TIF the boxer, 260 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: TIF the trainer, Tiff the athlete, TIF the yeah that 261 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: I felt that one little part of me became all 262 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: of the parts of me, and all the other parts 263 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: got put in a box. So I'm just seeing how 264 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: it all fits together at the moment. I don't know 265 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: which assumed in. 266 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 5: A way, though, I think compartmentalizing things that was a 267 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 5: way that I often would cope is knowing that I 268 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 5: could put that away in the box and not worry 269 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 5: about it for a little while, and then come back 270 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 5: to it when I felt like I had the right 271 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 5: amount of energy or whatever to go back there. But certainly, 272 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 5: when I had my athlete hat on, I would ignore 273 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 5: everything else because I'm like, you know, this is so 274 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 5: important to me. I need to do what everything it 275 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 5: takes to be good at this, and I could quite 276 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 5: often switch off a lot of things that probably were 277 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 5: more important than I needed to focus on. But I 278 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 5: think that's how you cope in sport and as athletes, 279 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 5: I think that you kind of have to have a 280 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 5: level of that. 281 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: I found that A huge positive to that when I 282 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: needed it was seeing how it shifted me in my life. 283 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: So I spent all this time in training in the 284 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: gym and boxing ring thinking that I was just doing that, 285 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 2: and then after a few years I looked back and went, oh, 286 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 2: that actually changed tiff Cook outside the ring. That changed 287 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: how I am in as an employee, as a business person, 288 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: as a friend. It changed everything. But I guess that's 289 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: what I'm getting at now, is going well, it's there's 290 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: a part of that that needs to be left behind. 291 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: So do I still need that sport or should I 292 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: Do I need. 293 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: To shift that? 294 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it exists, whether you think it's happening or not. 295 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the way. I love the way Bianca. 296 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: You just started hosting the show, then, No, I love it. 297 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: I love I'm like, oh, here's the TV presenter, so TIF, 298 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: so TIF for you. 299 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: No, I fucking love it. 300 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 4: You just step aside, Craig. 301 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, feel free to both of you. Feel free to 302 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: ask questions and take the reins at any time. 303 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you. Bee how do you. 304 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: So, now it's forty two, been a mum, being a 305 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: business woman, being a bunch of different things, what do 306 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: you decide, like right now and moving forward. 307 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: To do and. 308 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: Also to not do, like what needs to go on 309 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: the later list, what needs to get put on the shelf, 310 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: because we know we can't do you know, I'm I 311 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: figure this out with my PhD and my business and 312 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: my podcast and trying to stay in shape. And I 313 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: can't do sixty four things. Well, so I need to 314 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: do four or five things. And I get lots of 315 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: other opportunities, as do both of you, and I even 316 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: great opportunities. I've got to say no because I can't 317 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: fit anything else in. So what's your criteria for figuring 318 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: out where you invest your time and energy? 319 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 5: Well, I mean it simply comes to you know. So 320 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 5: during I'm contracted with Fox Sports, so that is obviously 321 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 5: a priority. When the when busy in whether it's netball 322 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 5: season and so that's free example, I know that from 323 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 5: the end of March through till generally the end of August, 324 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 5: I will be traveling most weekends or I'll have games 325 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 5: on most weekends and maybe some things during the week 326 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 5: and that's like an intense kind of period of time 327 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 5: for me and then obviously my family. And so basically 328 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 5: I just make sure that whatever I take on during 329 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 5: that time fits within my week where it's not going 330 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 5: to obviously disrupt what I'm doing for network, but also 331 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 5: that I've got the energy to do it, because it's 332 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 5: quite exhausting being up and about in the commentary and 333 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 5: all of that. You know, it takes a lot out 334 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 5: of you, and I've got to make sure that I 335 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 5: have on a Monday morning some time to kind of 336 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 5: to myself, to recover and to just you know, walk around, 337 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 5: go to the park whatever we're doing. 338 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 4: So I try and only take on. 339 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 5: One other thing in a week of work when I'm 340 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 5: in netball season, and once I'm out of that netball 341 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 5: season again, I'll wagh it up and see what projects 342 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 5: are have in front of me, and if it might 343 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 5: be a big chunk of leadership work that I'll do 344 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 5: with a client, then I will kind of set that 345 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 5: asign and say I'm only available to do that in September. 346 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 5: And it becomes a bit cutthroat, and it's just you've 347 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 5: got to take me or leave me like I can 348 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 5: do it. 349 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: In that time, so. 350 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 5: I just can't do it rather than trying to, you know, 351 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 5: force and pressure on everybody else to make sure that 352 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 5: I can do it. 353 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 4: So don't. 354 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 5: I don't have the clear equation of how it works 355 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 5: perfectly because I don't think it ever does. But Mark, 356 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 5: my partner, is so organized, like far more organized than me, 357 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 5: and he is constantly me about diary and schedule on 358 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 5: time and what are we doing, and he obviously works 359 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 5: as well. So I'm just very fortunate that I have 360 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 5: a partner like him who drives me crazy with his organization. 361 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 5: But on the flip side, make sure that we can 362 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 5: fit in everything that we can do and if there's 363 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 5: something that I really love and that I you know, 364 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 5: when I got a call about doing some Fox cricket stuff, 365 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 5: I was like, yes, like I want to do it. 366 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 5: I love working in other sports and so that was 367 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 5: kind of because it really me. I was like, well, 368 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 5: I have to try and make time for this, and 369 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 5: fortunately it's over summer where there is some time. 370 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 3: So do you do you have like last night I did. 371 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: I'm running a mentoring group at the moment, which is 372 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: just a bunch of people online on a Monday night 373 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: for two hours, right, and it starts at seven, and 374 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: literally it four minutes past seven. I'm downstairs in the 375 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: four minutes two seven, I'm downstairs getting a cup of 376 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: tea and bare feet and shorts and a black T shirt, 377 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: fucking around. And then I sit down and like, I 378 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: know what I'm going to talk to them about. But 379 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: it is, you know, like talking to you and tiar 380 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: f right now, seventeen hundred and eighty odd episodes in 381 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: it's it's just like completely comfortable. It's like completely it's 382 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: my natural habitat. There's no stress, there's no anxiety, there's 383 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: no fear. It's just a thing that I'm doing in 384 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: the moment. But then there are other things, you know, 385 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: like last week I did two talks face to face 386 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: live talks Tuesday Wednesday, seven hundred people each talk, where 387 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: it's a bit different and I don't stress about it, 388 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: but there's a different kind of getting ready process, getting 389 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 1: ready practically, mentally, emotionally, when you've got to do stuff 390 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: like Telly where you can't do it again because it's 391 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: live and it's in the moment. Do you have like rituals, 392 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: Do you have a certain prep that you've got to 393 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: go through. I don't mean in terms of research beforehand, 394 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: but on the day for you to fucking so the 395 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: cameras camera's on, you're live, you're standing with a mic 396 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: by the side of the court. How do you get 397 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 1: yourself in that optimal state? 398 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 5: Hmm, well, you know, I actually think it's very similar 399 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 5: to what I would do as an athlete like I 400 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 5: as long as I've done my prep and I can 401 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 5: park that, generally, I'll do that the night before, even 402 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 5: if that means staying up however late I need to 403 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 5: stay up to get it done. I'd just like to 404 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 5: be able to on game day if be able to 405 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 5: get into the courts or wherever. And obviously we're in 406 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 5: hair make up for an hour because this face doesn't 407 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 5: look like this on TV and all this hair. 408 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 4: So you're in the hair and makeup for an hour. 409 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 5: And for me, the most stressful part is if I'm 410 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 5: in here and makeup and I'm trying to do notes 411 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 5: and trying to figure everything out and not able to 412 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 5: just have a general chat about anything and everything. I 413 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 5: know that I'm putting myself under the pump. So I'm 414 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 5: just trying to be as prepped as I can get there, 415 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 5: and then I just want to have a bit of 416 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 5: fun in the lead up to the game, you know, 417 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 5: talk to the players if you see them around, not 418 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 5: feel like you've got to do too much. And also, 419 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 5: which I'm sure you'd be very interested in, creiggro On 420 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 5: Tiff is also from a nutrition point of view, making 421 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 5: sure you've eaten really well beforehand, because we could be 422 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 5: on air for a good chunk of time like you 423 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 5: might be you know, five So this Wednesday, actually we're 424 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 5: on air I think for about six. 425 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 4: Hours because there's two games and. 426 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 5: You can't really eat and you can't really go to 427 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 5: the toilet through that six hours, so you don't have time, 428 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 5: so you can't really be drinking way too much water 429 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 5: and things like that, so you have to really be 430 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 5: prepped beforehand, otherwise you get caught in that really dodgy 431 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 5: loophole of having the lolly from the start and then 432 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 5: feeling terrible because you smashed the whole bag of lollies 433 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 5: and you sugar crash and that, you know, the roller 434 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 5: coaster ride. So even that kind of stuff I think 435 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 5: is important. Making sure you've had something good to eat, 436 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 5: some good protein, and then it gets you through the day. 437 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: And also I think people would not typically the average 438 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: person watching you on Telly wouldn't think about understandably the 439 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: cognitive load of needing to be switched on sharp, like 440 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: fully present, no fatigue for six hours, where you think about, 441 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: if I'm reading an academic paper for twenty minutes, it 442 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: can put me into a coma because there's a heavy 443 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: cognitive load, and I don't love it, right, And obviously 444 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: you enjoy it a little bit more than I enjoyed 445 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: reading academic papers. But being able to be fully present 446 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: and switched on and sharp for six hours is like 447 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: running a cognitive marathon. 448 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 5: And the whole time I still feel like, even though 449 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 5: I've done it for a while, I still feel like 450 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 5: I've got my l plates on. Like you're just constantly learning, 451 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 5: which is a good thing. You never feel comfortable like 452 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 5: you've nailed it. You're always constantly trying to think of 453 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 5: different ways you can do it, and you. 454 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 4: Know, and anything can happen the moment. 455 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 5: One of the first games I did on Fox, We're 456 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 5: over in Adelaide, and there was an issue with the court, 457 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 5: so the game was delayed an hour, so then you 458 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 5: had to feel that hour and then at halftime, the 459 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 5: game got canceled because of a power outage, and then 460 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 5: again you had to just feel and it's just stuff 461 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 5: like that that you can't ever relax. You've got someone 462 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 5: talking in your ear trying to guide you, and then 463 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 5: you've got the crowd noise, and then it's just there's 464 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 5: just so much stimulus everywhere. It's really hard to focus, 465 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 5: far more than what it ever was as an athlete. 466 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 5: But then again, I like that that it drives me 467 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 5: to just try and be better every time I do it. 468 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: And also on top of that, you've got the anxiety 469 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: of all the uncertainty in the moment because you knew 470 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: what was coming and now that's not coming. Yes, and 471 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: they're going to you. You've got to feel or you've 472 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: got to stretch this or like with what. 473 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, yes, So everyone who gives us feedback about 474 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 5: how what we're. 475 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 4: Doing in the moment, you just don't quite understand. 476 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 3: All that goes into I have a question for you 477 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 3: that's from left field. 478 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: So most most people that I've worked with, including and 479 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: also I put myself in this group, but most of 480 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: us have, especially athletes, have an interesting, let's say, an 481 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: interesting relationship with their body, you know, when they are athletes, 482 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: because you're under a certain amount of pressure to keep 483 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: your body in a particular state. You know, I'm not 484 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: talking about aesthetics or weight. I'm talking about performance and 485 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: function and optimal output whatever the sport is, you know. 486 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: And now that I mean, obviously you're a long time 487 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: out of that, but I just want to know because 488 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: you know you you are six', two AND i know 489 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: that for, you like staying in elite shape for elite 490 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: sport didn't always come easy to. 491 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: You not that you were overweight. 492 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: Per, se but it's not like you were some fucking 493 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: mesomorph who who just walked, out you, know and you 494 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: were just lean and, jacked, Right you're always working hard 495 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: with diet, hard with training, hard with all the, protocols 496 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: and now it seems like. IT i don't, know but to, 497 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: me it seems like from the outside looking, in which 498 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: very MUCH i, am now you seem almost, physically mentally 499 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: and emotionally in a better. Place like how is your 500 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: relationship with your body changed since those? 501 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 3: Days? 502 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, LIKE i, mean you've nailed, it. 503 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 5: Definitely that's exactly HOW i was as an, athlete and 504 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 5: LIKE i was JUST i look back now AND i, 505 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 5: overtrained and BECAUSE i was constantly trying to push myself 506 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 5: to jump higher and to be stronger and all the 507 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 5: things that you're meant to, be and my body was 508 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 5: just never naturally gifted like that. Unfortunately and so, YEAH 509 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 5: i WOULD i was that focused THAT, i you, know 510 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 5: would do so much THAT i THINK i was constantly you, 511 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 5: know had high levels of probably cortisol and stress running 512 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 5: through my body THAT i could never get the best 513 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 5: out of it. Anyway and then now WHEN i like 514 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 5: kind of flip now to WHERE i, AM i still 515 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 5: very much enjoy training and going to the, gym but 516 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 5: it's very much about never flogging myself or doing anything 517 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 5: that's overly high. Intense it's more about just being healthy 518 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 5: and like, MENTALLY i enjoy going to the gym because 519 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 5: it's a good outlet and doing things like, pilates and you, 520 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 5: KNOW i still go and see our Mate Sam whaley 521 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 5: and do a bit of rehab just on the jobs 522 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 5: to try and keep myself. 523 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 4: Strong but, yeah it really is. 524 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 5: A complete change that it's just all about being being 525 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 5: healthy and looking after, myself not ABOUT i don't care 526 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 5: how FIT i. AM i DON'T i can't run anyway 527 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 5: because my. Knee but, yeah it's not about that, anymore 528 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 5: even to the point where we've. COME i say it's wellness, 529 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 5: flogs but it's probably not the right wellness. 530 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: Flogs. 531 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 5: Yeah like we've got an infrared sauna at, home and you, 532 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 5: KNOW i love that BECAUSE i love the benefits health, 533 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 5: wise BUT i also love that it's just time, Out 534 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 5: SO i enjoy doing that WHEN i. Can And mark 535 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 5: has an ice bar setup and he uses. THAT i 536 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 5: don't go in there as, much BUT i KNOW i probably. 537 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 3: SHOULD i know how much you love ice. Bars HISTORICALLY i. 538 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 5: Do we've done enough in my, time but, YEAH i 539 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 5: understand the benefits of, it so Sometimes i'll do that. 540 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 4: Too we're in the, sauna. 541 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 5: But doing things like that more for our lifestyle and 542 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 5: being healthy than it is about going to training and you, 543 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 5: know doing your forty five AND i know there's a 544 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 5: place for, that but definitely for my, body it made 545 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 5: it so much worse from pushing it so. 546 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: Much do you have do you have a like an 547 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: overarching idea OF i guess or objective of what you 548 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: know what life at fifty will look, like or do 549 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: you just kind of LIKE i know that you're living more. 550 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: Consciously AND i, MEAN i know you're a long way from. 551 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: Fifty but WHAT i mean, is you KNOW i say this, 552 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: often but the amount of Times i've sat down with 553 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: somebody who's fifty is years old who says to, me, 554 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: oh like in reference to where their life's at and 555 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: there everything's, at you, know they, go this wasn't my. 556 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: Plan and then WHEN i, say CAN i see the? 557 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: Plan there is no? 558 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: Plan you? 559 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: Know do you live kind of methodically like that where 560 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: you think in, one, two five, Years not in terms 561 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: of so you've got this these KPIs mapped out on 562 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: some whiteboard that you And mark are reviewing on a quarterly, 563 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: basis but where you think, hopefully you, know in ten 564 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: years we're going to be living down the peninsula and 565 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: do it or? 566 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 3: Whatever do you think forward that? 567 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 5: FAR i mean not really other than LIKE i guess 568 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 5: you have to with a child because you've got to 569 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 5: think about schools and stuff like. That but in terms 570 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 5: of me, PERSONALLY i, LIKE i just want to as 571 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 5: much AS i can be doing what we're. Doing like, 572 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 5: me the work THAT i, DO i love it whichever 573 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 5: way it goes and, flows Like i'm happy with that 574 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 5: as long As i'm still making the right choices like 575 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 5: that are actually right for, me AND i will ALWAYS 576 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 5: i will always look after my health and my body 577 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 5: BECAUSE i know how important that is for me. Too 578 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 5: so in terms of plans, like of COURSE i, love you, 579 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 5: know renovating and. Buying HOW i would love to do 580 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 5: more of that IF i, could but comes with the 581 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 5: money that you need as. 582 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: Well but, yeah. 583 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: Of, course of course we should mention to our listeners 584 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: who don't, know which is probably half of, them that 585 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: you and it was A karla were on the. Block 586 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: how was that twenty eighteen or. 587 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 4: Something, yes that's exactly, right. 588 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: And did did very well of, Course so you still 589 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 1: have that renovation kind of. 590 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 4: Passion, YEAH i REALLY i enjoy. 591 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 5: It and my dad's a, builder so that was always 592 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 5: kind of you, know in front of me as a, 593 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 5: kid and, YEAH i love doing. It but obviously you 594 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 5: know you need time to do that as, well so 595 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 5: it always takes, time But i'm always tinking. Around that's 596 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 5: what we had to do with infrared sauna was build 597 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 5: an outdoor area to be able to house the sauna, 598 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 5: outside and So dad AND i did that last, summer and, 599 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 5: YEAH i really enjoy. It it's obviously it's, physical SO 600 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 5: i enjoy that part of it, Too but just being 601 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 5: creative and learning things That i've got no idea about and, 602 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 5: Thinking i've, got you, know all the tools THAT i, 603 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 5: need BUT i don't really know how to use. 604 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 4: Them So i'm going to rely on everybody else to 605 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 4: help me with that. Part BUT i like. IT i 606 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 4: like in my hands. Dirty. 607 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, WELL i think obviously renovation and building and like 608 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: it is really a creative, process you, know and if 609 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: you can conceive, it then you can find the people 610 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: that can help you turn that theoretical something into. 611 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 3: A real world. 612 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: SOMETHING i want to ask you a couple of philosophical. Questions, 613 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: so what is something that you are better at now 614 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: than you used to be that that was perhaps a 615 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: flaw or a weakness that now you feel like you're 616 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: starting to master or at, least have you, know got 617 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: a better understanding of? 618 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 4: Cheapers what would it? BE i? 619 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: Think or in other, words what do you do better? 620 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: Now what's something now that you used to be kind 621 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: of shit? At and now maybe you're not a, superstar 622 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: but you definitely have learned and grown in that. 623 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 5: Space, oh you, know so much of what we've already 624 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 5: spoken about, today, definitely but knowing myself being far more 625 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 5: self aware and understanding of me and WHAT i, need 626 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 5: AND i think maybe comes with, age but also you, 627 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 5: know just evolving and always. Learning Like i'm a big 628 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 5: one for always listening to podcasts and you, know audio 629 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 5: books and really trying to learn as much AS i 630 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 5: can in terms of everything that you, know you talk. 631 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 5: About BUT i also FIND i get fatigued from that, 632 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 5: too and that SOMETIMES i just have to completely switch 633 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 5: off from it because you hear the same words all the, 634 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 5: time and you hear a lot of the same, topics 635 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 5: and it can get really overwhelming and, exhausting and SO 636 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 5: i have to be really conscious of pulling myself out 637 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 5: of that and not getting too caught up in that. 638 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 5: Too so, YEAH i think probably being just far more 639 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 5: self aware is a huge. One and being even me 640 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 5: like as you would, know LIKE i was never a 641 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 5: really emotional, person AND i certainly do am far more 642 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 5: emotional now THAN i ever, was and probably still not 643 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 5: too you, know an extreme, degree BUT i JUST i 644 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 5: see the value in that as, well about showing your 645 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 5: emotions to people, too and you, know letting your guard 646 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 5: down a little bit BECAUSE i was very much fixated 647 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 5: on one, thing and you, KNOW i was never really 648 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 5: very open like that was That, CRAIGO i. 649 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 3: Don't know what you're talking. 650 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: ABOUT i reckon you were always, emotional but you didn't 651 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: express it as express, it. 652 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 3: You, know like you it was always. There, yeah and 653 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 3: why well you. 654 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: AND i have been friends for probably the best part 655 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: of twenty, years, right and we don't see each other. 656 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: Much but if you rang me and When i'm FUCKED 657 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: i need, whatever you know THAT i would do. 658 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 3: That AND i KNOW i know the other way, around you, 659 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 3: Know SO. 660 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: I think, That, YEAH i think that as you you, 661 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: know for, me it feels like you. Are and the 662 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: same With. Tiff tiff showbian rock that's from The, himalayas 663 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: that keeps. It she's always got it on. Her but 664 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: it's funny because you both have, that LIKE i, said 665 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: that little bit of fuck off about. You but ALSO 666 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: i think part of that for both of you is 667 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: because you are you do actually care a, lot but 668 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: you don't always or you haven't always known how to express. 669 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: That BUT i feel you, KNOW i know that For, 670 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: tip AND i feel like for, you like you're probably 671 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: just a little bit you, know more demonstrative and comfortable 672 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: in your own, skin you know these? 673 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 5: Days be, yes definitely that probably it sums it up quite. 674 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 5: Well AND i don't know is that an age? Thing 675 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 5: is it just a personality? 676 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: Thing AND i think also it's a you, know it's, 677 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: like what's the, point what's the point of being fucking 678 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: what's the point of having the fuck? 679 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 3: Off? Like what what is that doesn't do? Anything you? 680 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 3: Know and also do you know what else is? Liberating 681 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 3: AND i talk about this a, bit but what else 682 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 3: is liberating is when you GO. 683 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: I don't, KNOW i don't, know OR i fucked, up 684 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: OR i was a. Dickhead it's my. Fault you, Know it's, 685 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: okay it's my, fault wasn't? You it's actually, me you. 686 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 5: Know totally and even not feeling like you have to 687 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 5: have an opinion on something, too just, listening go for, 688 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 5: people go your hardest with what you. 689 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 4: Think i'm happy to just sit back and just. 690 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 3: Someone said to, Me, yes someone asked me yesterday about THE. 691 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: Us you know that the, presidency WHAT i, THINK i 692 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: go to no one in the world needs to know 693 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: WHAT i, think AND i don't even know what how 694 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: LIKE i would Just it's like, going what do you 695 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: think is going to come? Up like green or? BLUE i, go, 696 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: OH i don't, know Or i'm going to roll the dice? 697 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: Crage what number do you? Reckon it'll? 698 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 3: Be how the fuck DO i? Know and why do you? 699 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 4: Care did you listen To trump And rogan? Recently? 700 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 3: YEAH i? DID i. 701 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: DID i did listen to the whole three. Hours but, 702 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: man he. Can he can go on a, tangent can't. 703 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 5: HE i JUST i quite enjoyed, it Like i've got. 704 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 5: AGAIN i don't even care about what. Happened enjoyed. 705 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 4: It. 706 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 5: Interesting how he was talking about weaving things into conversations 707 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 5: and how he does, that. 708 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 4: Like yes' strategic AND i Love. 709 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: Rogan would ask him a specific. Question within thirty, seconds 710 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: he's talking about something that he did In, delaware you, 711 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: know talking about the. Numbers are we did very well? 712 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: There we did and we got very good numbers and 713 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: very good. Support And rogan's, like, yeah that isn't WHAT 714 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: i asked you. About he's, Like he's, like, yeah that's, 715 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: cool but answer the. Question, yeah that's WHAT i go 716 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: for three? 717 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: Hours, Ah and doesn't he love a? 718 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: Compliment When rogan said to, him you've got good comedic. 719 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: Timing oh fucking, hell it's like he loves all. That, hey, 720 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: well we love catching up with. You you're the. 721 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 3: Best how do people connect with you and find? 722 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: You and anyone that's listening that might want to try 723 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: and find that three minute spare that you have a 724 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: year to employ you for a corporate gig to get 725 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: you to come and work with their. Team by the, 726 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: way you better be fucking cashed up if you want 727 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 1: her to, come because she doesn't come. 728 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 3: Cheap how do people do? That be just? 729 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 5: Through probably socials is the best. One just at The 730 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 5: Yanchor chapfield on my. Socials just hit me up on there. 731 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: With that my last. Quad, yeah you're terrible at self. 732 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: Promotion you're like, that don't, Worry i'm, busy but you, know. 733 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,959 Speaker 1: Thanks so you're six to, two you, bloke six.' four 734 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: how tall is you're two and a half? 735 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 5: Year, old oh she hasn't hit six, foot yet somedays, 736 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 5: She probably well she's. Pretty tall like you take her 737 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 5: to the playground and, everyone's like oh is? She four and, 738 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 5: make no she's two and. 739 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 4: A half do you? 740 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 5: Know what actually even on that that KIND of i 741 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 5: find that hard to like understand, from people because everyone 742 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 5: wants to tell you how tall. She IS and i 743 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 5: think it takes me, back to, you know just every 744 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 5: day of, my life where everyone tells you how tall. 745 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 5: You Are and, i'm, Like, ah god she's going to 746 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 5: have to deal with that her, whole life and everyone 747 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 5: telling her how tall she is and everyone asking she's 748 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 5: going to, play netball AND so i get really defensive. 749 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 5: With everyone, i'm like stop talking about her height all. 750 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 5: The TIME but i pull my jets on THAT because 751 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 5: i can't PROJECT. 752 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: And i don't think that's going away, anytime, Soon no 753 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: and it just correcks. 754 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 4: Me Up and, i'm, like, yep yes. She's tall are 755 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 4: you surprised look. 756 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 2: At. 757 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 3: Me yes. 758 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 4: You could be super honest and, you know go back 759 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 4: about something else, about Somebody but, i'm, Like no i'll just. 760 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 4: KEEP it. 761 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 3: I could come back right now with, certain things but 762 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 3: that would be. Very. Bad bianca. Thank you we'll talk. 763 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: Again soon we'll say goodbye, of here, of course but, 764 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: Thanks Be, thanks tiff 765 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 4: Thank you see, you, later everyone