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Speaker 1: I get our team. Welcome to another installment the show.

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Speaker 1: Tiffany and Cook, Bi Anka, Jane and Mary Veronica Chatfield.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with Cook, who's still just clinging to the

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Speaker 1: remnants of India. Just I just detected a little chink

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Speaker 1: in the nirvana, the kind of the glow. But it's

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Speaker 1: because she's been for an early morning motorbike ride and

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Speaker 1: she's freezing.

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Speaker 2: And Altip wouldn't have done that, would she Oltif wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have got up and started the day with a bit

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Speaker 2: of I don't know, exciting like.

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Speaker 1: That, no early morning meditation out on I read somebody,

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Speaker 1: you know when you your algorithm sends you shit. This

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Speaker 1: My algorithm sent me I get the intersection of bodybuilding

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Speaker 1: and motorbikes and philosophy and spirituality, and I ended up

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Speaker 1: with this thing on by the way high Chatters, Good morning, Hi.

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Speaker 3: How are you keep going? I'm interested you well.

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Speaker 1: It sent me this video of this professor to talking

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Speaker 1: about the physiological, emotional, and psychological and spiritual benefits of

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Speaker 1: motorbike riding, all these great things that does for you,

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Speaker 1: And I thought, do you know what? While I personally

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Speaker 1: I love this, but I can tell you with absolute

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Speaker 1: certainty that for some people being on a motorbike produces

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Speaker 1: the opposite effect. I think it depends not on the motorbike,

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Speaker 1: but one's relationship with motorbike riding. Have you ever been

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Speaker 1: on a bike? Chatters?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been on with you.

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Speaker 4: That's the only time I reckon I've been on one?

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Speaker 4: Was that years ago?

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Speaker 1: Was that fucking terrifying? Or how was it?

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Speaker 3: I just remember you were very safety conscious. You were

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Speaker 3: Are you sure all the gear was on?

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Speaker 4: And You're like, you want to hang on and don't

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Speaker 4: do this and don't do that, and I'm like, okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think at the time I was. I was

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Speaker 1: riding with the captain of the Melbourne Vixens and an

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Speaker 1: Australian netball team member, so I probably I thought I've

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Speaker 1: got a reasonably valuable commodity. That's what you are, a

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Speaker 1: commodity on board or I don't know, human on board,

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Speaker 1: and so I was probably a little bit more conscientious

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, motorbike riding is not really my thing,

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Speaker 4: but I'm happy to have a go. It was all right,

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Speaker 4: It's certainly not in my algorithm, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Tip, what's going on? Over there. You look like you've

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Speaker 1: got a cat doing catastrophic things.

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Speaker 2: Ah, because I didn't shut the cupboard door. Probably want

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Speaker 2: to put my motorbike jack away. And now guess who's

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Speaker 1: Well, do you want to turn your mic coffin? Go

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Speaker 1: and attend to that, and I'll talk to chatters. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: I will do that, all right, You go and do that. Bianca?

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Speaker 1: What's news? How are you?

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Speaker 4: Do?

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty good.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I just life has been crazy the

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Speaker 4: last couple of years, becoming a mom. And I don't

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Speaker 3: Had my daughter.

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Speaker 1: How old is she now?

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Speaker 3: So she's two and a half?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I feel like I just well, we all

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Speaker 4: just bunk it down, as I'm sure many.

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Speaker 4: Just bunk it down and you can get done and

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Speaker 4: the rest of the time you enjoyed just hanging around

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Speaker 4: because they certainly do, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, your background is pretty diverse, so you know,

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Speaker 1: elite athlete playing for Australia World Cup comm Games gold

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Speaker 1: in the Melbourne Vixen's club team in the world. For

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Speaker 1: quite a long time, you were a school teacher who

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Speaker 1: actually who actually did the training and then went and taught,

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Speaker 1: unlike many teachers who do teaching and then go and

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Speaker 1: You were the host of the Woman's Footy show. You

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Speaker 1: like you call the Netty. You do a lot of

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Speaker 1: corporate speaking, you do educational stuff, you work. What kind

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good question. I don't think I

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Speaker 4: passionate about, what really drives me and what you know,

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Speaker 4: fills my cup like a big one on just energy

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Speaker 4: I think, especially the last couple of years, like my

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Speaker 4: But I very much find myself now in the place

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Speaker 4: That stuff really fills my cup too, because I love

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Speaker 4: the adrenaline rush that you get of live TV. And

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Speaker 4: it's like being an athlete. It's sink or swim if

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Speaker 4: But it's just I like being able to kind of

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Speaker 3: I love being able to do lots of different things.

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Speaker 1: I feel like with somebody like you, who when you're young,

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Speaker 1: other opportunities, and like you said, you just say yes

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Speaker 1: then you and I was a little bit like that

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Speaker 1: Not But I think we can become a lot more

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I totally agree with that.

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Speaker 4: And it's and I don't know if that coincided with

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Speaker 4: you have to really want to do it, because you

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Speaker 4: know what it does for everybody else who is, whether

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Speaker 4: it's you know, Mark, my partner, he's at home, you know,

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Speaker 4: I certainly, yeah, I think becoming a mum, the boundaries

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Speaker 3: And also, yeah, you.

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Speaker 4: Don't want to let this little girl down when you're

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Speaker 3: Of both of us and all of us, and for

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Speaker 4: And I mean so much of the work that I've

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Speaker 4: It's absolutely okay that it can be impossible to be

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Speaker 4: And so that just adds a whole nother layer of complexity,

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Speaker 4: When I'm out speaking to a lot of mums, especially mums,

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Speaker 1: It just dawned on me the differences but also the

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Speaker 1: similarities between you and Tif. You're both forty two. She's

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Speaker 1: used to stop women from shooting goals for a long time.

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Speaker 1: if I'm reading an academic paper for twenty minutes, it

438
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Speaker 1: can put me into a coma because there's a heavy

439
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Speaker 1: cognitive load, and I don't love it, right, And obviously

440
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Speaker 1: you enjoy it a little bit more than I enjoyed

441
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Speaker 1: reading academic papers. But being able to be fully present

442
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Speaker 1: and switched on and sharp for six hours is like

443
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Speaker 1: running a cognitive marathon.

444
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Speaker 4: And the whole time I still feel like, even though

445
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Speaker 4: I've done it for a while, I still feel like

446
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Speaker 4: I've got my l plates on. Like you're just constantly learning,

447
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 4: which is a good thing. You never feel comfortable like

448
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 4: you've nailed it. You're always constantly trying to think of

449
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 4: different ways you can do it, and you.

450
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Speaker 3: Know, and anything can happen the moment.

451
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Speaker 4: One of the first games I did on Fox, We're

452
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Speaker 4: over in Adelaide, and there was an issue with the court,

453
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Speaker 4: so the game was delayed an hour, so then you

454
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Speaker 4: had to feel that hour and then at halftime, the

455
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Speaker 4: game got canceled because of a power outage, and then

456
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Speaker 4: again you had to just feel and it's just stuff

457
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Speaker 4: like that that you can't ever relax. You've got someone

458
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Speaker 4: talking in your ear trying to guide you, and then

459
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Speaker 4: you've got the crowd noise, and then it's just there's

460
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Speaker 4: just so much stimulus everywhere. It's really hard to focus,

461
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Speaker 4: far more than what it ever was as an athlete.

462
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Speaker 4: But then again, I like that that it drives me

463
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Speaker 4: to just try and be better every time I do it.

464
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Speaker 1: And also on top of that, you've got the anxiety

465
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Speaker 1: of all the uncertainty in the moment because you knew

466
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Speaker 1: what was coming and now that's not coming. Yes, and

467
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Speaker 1: they're going to you. You've got to feel or you've

468
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Speaker 1: got to stretch this or like with what.

469
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yes, So everyone who gives us feedback about

470
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Speaker 4: how what we're.

471
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Speaker 3: Doing in the moment, you just don't quite understand all that.

472
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Speaker 1: Goes into I have a question for you that's from

473
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Speaker 1: left field. So most most people that I've worked with,

474
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Speaker 1: including and also I put myself in this group, but

475
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Speaker 1: most of us have, especially athletes, have an interesting, let's say,

476
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Speaker 1: an interesting relationship with their body, you know, when they

477
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Speaker 1: are athletes, because you're under a certain amount of pressure

478
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Speaker 1: to keep your body in a particular state. You know,

479
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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about aesthetics or weight. I'm talking about

480
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Speaker 1: performance and function and optimal output whatever the sport is,

481
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Speaker 1: you know. And now that I mean, obviously you're a

482
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Speaker 1: long time out of that, but I just want to

483
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Speaker 1: know because you know you you are six ' two,

484
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Speaker 1: and I know that for you, like staying in elite

485
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Speaker 1: shape for elite sport didn't always come easy to you.

486
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Speaker 1: Not that you were overweight per se, but it's not

487
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Speaker 1: like you were some fucking mesomorph who who just walked out,

488
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Speaker 1: you know, and you were just lean and jacked, right,

489
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Speaker 1: You're always working hard with diet hard, with training hard,

490
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Speaker 1: with all the protocols, and now it seems like it.

491
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but to me, it seems like from

492
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Speaker 1: the outside looking in, which very much I am, now

493
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Speaker 1: you seem almost physically, mentally and emotionally in a better place.

494
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Speaker 1: Like how is your relationship with your body changed since

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Speaker 1: those days?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Like, I mean, you've nailed it, definitely. That's exactly how

498
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Speaker 4: I was as an athlete, and like I was just

499
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 4: I look back now and I overtrained, and because I

500
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Speaker 4: was constantly trying to push myself to jump higher and

501
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 4: to be stronger and all the things that you're meant

502
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Speaker 4: to be, and my body was just never naturally gifted

503
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Speaker 4: like that unfortunately. And so yeah, I would I was

504
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 4: that focused that I, you know, would do so much

505
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Speaker 4: that I think I was constantly you know, had high

506
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Speaker 4: levels of probably cortisol and stress running through my body

507
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Speaker 4: that I could never get the best out of it anyway.

508
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Speaker 3: And then now when I.

509
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Speaker 4: Like kind of flip now to where I am, I

510
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 4: still very much enjoy training and going to the gym,

511
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 4: but it's very much about never flogging myself or doing

512
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Speaker 4: anything that's overly high intense. It's more about just being

513
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Speaker 4: healthy and like mentally, I enjoy going to the gym

514
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Speaker 4: because it's a good outlet and doing things like pilates,

515
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 4: and you know, I still go and see our mate

516
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 4: Sam Whaley and do a bit of rehab just on

517
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Speaker 4: the jobs to try and keep myself strong.

518
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, it really is.

519
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 4: A complete change that it's just all about being being

520
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Speaker 4: healthy and looking after myself, not about I don't care

521
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Speaker 4: how fit I am. I don't I can't run anyway

522
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Speaker 4: because my knee. But yeah, it's not about that anymore,

523
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Speaker 4: even to the point where we've come. I say it's

524
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Speaker 4: wellness flogs, but it's probably not the.

525
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Speaker 1: Right wellness flogs.

526
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

527
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Speaker 4: Like we've got an infrared sauna at home, and you know,

528
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Speaker 4: I love that because I love the benefits health wise,

529
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Speaker 4: but I also love that it's just time out, So

530
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Speaker 4: I enjoy doing that when I can. And Mark has

531
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Speaker 4: an ice bar setup and he uses that. I don't

532
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Speaker 4: go in there as much, but I know I probably should.

533
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Speaker 1: I know how much you love ice bars. Historically I do.

534
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 4: We've done enough in my time, but yeah, I understand

535
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Speaker 4: the benefits of it, so sometimes I'll do that too.

536
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Speaker 3: We're in the sauna.

537
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Speaker 4: But doing things like that more for our lifestyle and

538
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 4: being healthy than it is about going to training and

539
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 4: you know, doing your forty five and I know there's

540
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: a place for that, but definitely for my body, it

541
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 4: made it so much worse from pushing it so much.

542
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Speaker 1: Do you have do you have a like an overarching

543
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 1: idea of I guess or objective of what you know

544
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: what life at fifty will look like, or do you

545
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Speaker 1: just kind of like I know that you're living more consciously.

546
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Speaker 1: And I mean, I know you're a long way from fifty.

547
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Speaker 1: But what I mean is, you know I say this often,

548
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Speaker 1: but the amount of times I've sat down with somebody

549
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Speaker 1: who's fifty is years old who says to me, oh,

550
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Speaker 1: like in reference to where their life's at and there

551
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: everything's at, you know, they go, this wasn't my plan.

552
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: And then when I say, can I see the plan?

553
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Speaker 1: There is no plan? You know? Do you live kind

554
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Speaker 1: of methodically like that where you think in one, two,

555
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: five years, Not in terms of so you've got this

556
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Speaker 1: these KPIs mapped out on some whiteboard that you and

557
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: Mark are reviewing on a quarterly basis, but where you

558
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Speaker 1: think hopefully, you know, in ten years we're going to

559
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Speaker 1: be living down the peninsula and do it or whatever?

560
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Speaker 1: Do you think forward that far?

561
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Speaker 4: I mean not really other than like I guess you

562
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,239
Speaker 4: have to with a child because you've got to think

563
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 4: about schools and stuff like that. But in terms of

564
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Speaker 4: me personally, I like, I just want to as much

565
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Speaker 4: as I can be doing what we're doing. Like me,

566
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 4: the work that I do, I love it whichever way

567
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 4: it goes and flows, like I'm happy with that as

568
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 4: long as I'm still making the right choices like that

569
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Speaker 4: are actually right for me, and I will always I

570
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 4: will always look after my health and my body because

571
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 4: I know how important that is for me too. So

572
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,479
Speaker 4: in terms of plans like, of course I love, you know,

573
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Speaker 4: renovating and buying.

574
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Speaker 3: How I would love to do more of that if

575
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Speaker 3: I could, but comes with the money that you need

576
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 3: as well.

577
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Speaker 1: But yeah, of course, of course we should mention to

578
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Speaker 1: our listeners who don't know, which is probably half of them,

579
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Speaker 1: that you and it was a Karla were on the block.

580
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Speaker 1: How was that twenty eighteen or something.

581
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Speaker 3: Yes, that's exactly right.

582
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Speaker 1: And did did very well of course, So you still

583
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Speaker 1: have that renovation kind of passion.

584
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really I enjoy it.

585
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Speaker 4: And my dad's a builder, so that was always kind

586
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Speaker 4: of you know, in front of me as a kid,

587
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Speaker 4: and yeah, I love doing it. But obviously you know

588
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 4: you need time to do that as well, so it

589
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 4: always takes time.

590
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Speaker 3: But I'm always tinking around.

591
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 4: That's what we had to do with infrared sauna was

592
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Speaker 4: build an outdoor area to be able to house the

593
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Speaker 4: sauna outside, and so Dad and I did that last summer,

594
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Speaker 4: and yeah, I really enjoy it. It's obviously it's physical,

595
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Speaker 4: so I enjoy that part of it too, But just

596
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Speaker 4: being creative and learning things that I've got no idea

597
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 4: about and thinking, I've got, you know, all the tools

598
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 4: that I need, but I don't really know how to

599
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Speaker 4: use them.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to rely on everybody else to help

601
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Speaker 3: me with that part. But I like it. I like

602
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Speaker 3: in my hands dirty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think obviously renovation and building and like

604
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Speaker 1: it is really a creative process, you know, and if

605
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Speaker 1: you can conceive it, then you can find the people

606
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Speaker 1: that can help you turn that theoretical something into a

607
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Speaker 1: real world something. I want to ask you a couple

608
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Speaker 1: of philosophical questions. So, what is something that you are

609
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Speaker 1: better at now than you used to be that that

610
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Speaker 1: was perhaps a flaw or a weakness that now you

611
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Speaker 1: feel like you're starting to master or at least, have

612
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Speaker 1: you know, got a better understanding of.

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Speaker 3: Cheapers? What would it be? I think?

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Speaker 1: Or in other words, what do you do better now?

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Speaker 1: What's something now that you used to be kind of

616
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Speaker 1: shit at? And now maybe you're not a superstar, but

617
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: you definitely have learned and grown in that space.

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Speaker 4: Oh, you know, so much of what we've already spoken

619
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Speaker 4: about today, definitely, but knowing myself being far more self

620
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 4: aware and understanding of me and what I need, and

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Speaker 4: I think maybe comes with age, but also you know,

622
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Speaker 4: just evolving and always learning. Like I'm a big one

623
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Speaker 4: for always listening to podcasts and you know, audio books

624
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 4: and really trying to learn as much as I can

625
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 4: in terms of everything that you know, you talk about.

626
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Speaker 4: But I also find I get fatigued from that too,

627
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 4: and that sometimes I just have to completely switch off

628
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 4: from it because you hear the same words all the time,

629
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Speaker 4: and you hear a lot of the same topics, and

630
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 4: it can get really overwhelming and exhausting, and so I

631
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 4: have to be really conscious of pulling myself out of

632
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 4: that and not getting too caught up in that too.

633
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think probably being just far more self

634
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 4: aware is a huge one. And being even me like

635
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 4: as you would know, like I was never a really

636
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 4: emotional person, and I certainly do am far more emotional

637
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: now than I ever was, and probably still not too

638
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 4: you know, an extreme degree, but I just I see

639
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 4: the value in that as well, about showing your emotions

640
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 4: to people too, and you know, letting your guard down

641
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 4: a little bit because I was very much fixated on

642
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 4: one thing, and you know, I was never really very

643
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 4: open like that was that Craigo, I.

644
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: Don't know what you're talking about. I reckon you were

645
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 1: always emotional, but you didn't express it as express it,

646
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, like you it was always there. Yeah, and

647
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: why well you and I have been friends for probably

648
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: the best part of twenty years, right, and we don't

649
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: see each other much. But if you rang me and

650
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: when I'm fucked I need whatever, you know that I

651
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: would do that. And I know I know the other

652
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: way around, you know, So I think that, Yeah, I

653
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Speaker 1: think that as you you know, for me, it feels

654
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: like you are. And the same with Tiff. Tiff showbian

655
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Speaker 1: rock that's from the Himalayas, that keeps it. She's always

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Speaker 1: got it on her. But it's funny because you both

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Speaker 1: have that, like I said, that little bit of fuck

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Speaker 1: off about you. But also I think part of that

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Speaker 1: for both of you is because you are you do

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Speaker 1: actually care a lot, but you don't always or you

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Speaker 1: haven't always known how to express that. But I feel

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Speaker 1: you know, I know that for Tip, and I feel

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Speaker 1: like for you, like you're probably just a little bit

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Speaker 1: you know, more demonstrative and comfortable in your own skin,

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Speaker 1: you know these days?

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Speaker 4: Be yes, definitely that probably it sums it up quite well.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know is that an age thing? Is

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Speaker 3: it just a personality thing?

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Speaker 1: And I think also it's a you know, it's like,

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Speaker 1: what's the point, what's the point of being fucking what's

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Speaker 1: the point of having the fuck off? Like? What what

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Speaker 1: is that doesn't do anything?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 5: And also do you know what else is liberating? And

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Speaker 5: I talk about this a bit, but what else is

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00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 5: liberating is when you go I don't know, I don't know,

677
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 5: or I fucked up, or I was a dickhead. It's

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00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 5: my fault. You know, It's okay, it's my fault, wasn't you?

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00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 5: It's actually me, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, totally and even not feeling like you have to

681
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 4: have an opinion on something too, just listening, go for people,

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Speaker 4: go your hardest with what you think.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to just sit back and just.

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Speaker 1: Someone said to me, Yes, someone asked me yesterday about

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Speaker 1: the US. You know that the presidency, what I think,

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Speaker 1: I go to no one in the world needs to

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Speaker 1: know what I think, and I don't even know what

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Speaker 1: how like I would just it's like going, what do

689
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Speaker 1: you think is going to come up? Like green or blue?

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00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: I go, oh, I don't know, or I'm going to

691
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: roll the dice crage? What number do you reckon? It'll be?

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Speaker 1: How the fuck do I know? And why do you care?

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Speaker 3: Did you listen to Trump and Rogan recently?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I did? I did. I did listen to the whole

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Speaker 1: three hours. But man, he can. He can go on

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Speaker 1: a tangent, can't he.

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Speaker 4: I just I quite enjoyed it, like I've got again.

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Speaker 4: I don't even care about what happened. Enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: Interesting.

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Speaker 4: How he was talking about weaving things into conversations and

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Speaker 4: how he does that.

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Speaker 3: Like, yes, he's strategic, and.

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Speaker 1: I love Rogan would ask him a specific question. Within

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Speaker 1: thirty seconds, he's talking about something that he did in Delaware,

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Speaker 1: you know, talking about the numbers. Are we did very

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Speaker 1: well there? We did and we got very good numbers

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Speaker 1: and very good support. And Rogan's like, yeah, that isn't

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Speaker 1: what I asked you about. He's like, He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's cool, but answer the question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I go for three hours?

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Speaker 1: Ah, And doesn't he love a compliment? When Rogan said

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Speaker 1: to him you've got good comedic timing. Oh fucking hell,

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Speaker 1: it's like he loves all that. Hey, well, we love

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00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: catching up with you. You're the best. How do people

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Speaker 1: connect with you and find you? And anyone that's listening

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Speaker 1: that might want to try and find that three minute

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Speaker 1: spare that you have a year to employ you for

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Speaker 1: a corporate gig to get you to come and work

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Speaker 1: with their team. By the way, you better be fucking

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Speaker 1: cashed up if you want her to come, because she

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Speaker 1: doesn't come cheap. How do people do that? Be just through?

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Speaker 4: Probably socials is the best one. Just at the Yanchor

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Speaker 4: Chapfield on my socials.

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Speaker 3: Just hit me up on there.

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Speaker 1: With that my last quad. Yeah, you're terrible at self promotion.

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Speaker 1: You're like that, don't worry, I'm busy, but you know, thanks.

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Speaker 1: So you're six to two, you bloke six ' four?

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Speaker 1: How tall is you're two and a half year old?

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Speaker 4: Oh, she hasn't hit six foot yet, somedays she probably,

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Speaker 4: Well she's pretty tall.

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Speaker 3: Like you take her to the playground and everyone's like,

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Speaker 3: oh is she four? And make no, she's two and

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Speaker 3: a half. Do you know what?

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Speaker 4: Actually even on that that kind of I find that

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Speaker 4: hard to like understand from people, because everyone wants to

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Speaker 4: tell you how tall she is, and I think it

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Speaker 4: takes me back to, you know, just every day of

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Speaker 4: my life, where everyone tells you how tall you are.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, ah, God, she's going to have to

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Speaker 4: deal with that her whole life, and everyone telling her

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Speaker 4: how tall she is and everyone asking she's going to

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Speaker 4: play netball, and so I get really defensive with everyone.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, stop talking about her height all the time.

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Speaker 4: But I pull my jets on that because I can't project.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think that's going away anytime soon, no,

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Speaker 1: And it.

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Speaker 4: Just cracks me up. And I'm like, yep, yes, she's tall.

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Speaker 4: Are you surprised look at me.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 4: You could be super honest and you know, go back

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00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 4: about something else about somebody, but I'm like, no, I'll

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Speaker 4: just keep it.

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Speaker 1: I could come back right now with certain things, but

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Speaker 1: that would be very bad. Bianca, thank you. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: again soon. We'll say goodbye of here, of course, but

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Speaker 1: thanks be, Thanks Tiff

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Speaker 3: Thank you, see you later, everyone,