Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome the Daily Telegraph in aerial podcast. It's a
Speaker 1: Monday and I'm with Tyson Jackson and it's just the
Speaker 1: two of us, brothers, just the two of us. Everyone's
Speaker 1: deserved this. Have gone out to New South Wales media
Speaker 1: and they've left poor old men Tyson to hold the ford.
Speaker 1: But it's not quantity, it's quality, Tice. That's what we
Speaker 1: always say, we get strain. Now let's talk Origin New
Speaker 1: They've panicked. No, that's the Queencer coming out. Made a
Speaker 1: host of changes and some of them are forced. Some
Speaker 1: of them were would have been changes that would have
Speaker 1: been there their pre game one if not for injuries.
Speaker 1: You know, Dylan Edwards would have been there, Mitch Moses
Speaker 1: would have been there, Cam Murray would have been there,
Speaker 1: Dalan Edwards would have been there. So they're sort of
Speaker 1: not forced, they're sort of by choice. But what do
Speaker 1: you talk about them sort of individually. Latrell's obviously the
Speaker 1: big one that everyone came.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Latrell was, I mean an obvious one straight away.
Speaker 2: I think after the way he's played, especially the last
Speaker 2: two games he's been on fire, I don't really read
Speaker 2: too much into the criticism of oh he hasn't played center.
Speaker 2: I think Gus came out and said he's not a center,
Speaker 2: but yeah, Latroll. I think Latroll had to be there
Speaker 2: and it kind of worked perfectly. I guess with Joey
Speaker 2: are getting suspended. I know there's nothing perfect about that situation,
Speaker 2: but if there is any any positive, you're not going
Speaker 2: to complain that you have one of the biggest X
Speaker 2: factors that the game's ever seen coming into the Blues team.
Speaker 1: I don't think they really had a choice. I mean,
Speaker 1: as a Queen's Land of the last bloke, you want
Speaker 1: to face his Latrell Mitchell because he can win the
Speaker 1: game on basically on his own. It's been three years.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize I was researching Game one. I'd forgotten
Speaker 1: it's been three years since he played Origin. Latrell last
Speaker 1: played in twenty twenty one, I think, and yeah, he's
Speaker 1: just a machine and he's done what Michael McGuire wanted
Speaker 1: to do, which was aim up and clubling. His last
Speaker 1: two games have been great, fantastic against against the Broncos
Speaker 1: the other night. Do you have any I know you're
Speaker 1: saying it's not an issue playing center because hes played
Speaker 1: lots of SNAI he's played there finish so well else,
Speaker 1: do you have any concerns with Latrell in any way?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean we all know Latrell can be a
Speaker 2: bit of a hot head at times, but like you said,
Speaker 2: there's no one if you're a Queenslander. I don't know
Speaker 2: if he's going up against Vale or if he'll be
Speaker 2: up against the Hammer, but if you're a Queen's Lander,
Speaker 2: you don't want Latrell standing in front of you. So
Speaker 2: I think the good outweighs are bad. But look, defending
Speaker 2: on an edge, for anyone that's ever played, is the
Speaker 2: hardest position to kind of defend, because you know, whatever
Speaker 2: your second roller does, your decision gets made off that.
Speaker 2: Whatever you cener does, the wis decision gets made off that.
Speaker 2: So with those I guess kind of things at hand,
Speaker 2: then there might be a bit a bit of trouble.
Speaker 2: But you know, I think the rest of the team,
Speaker 2: if the middle can hold down, well, I think theatrol
Speaker 2: will be safe on the edge defense if anything.
Speaker 1: That's sort of I think Louill plays that side from memory,
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure he does. Mitch plays right from
Speaker 1: right side generally right, Yeah, pretty sure that's tell this
Speaker 1: set up Jerome can be I don't know, you're you're
Speaker 1: a former player, current player, you're still playing, you're injured
Speaker 1: at the moment. But LOUI, I would imagine at times
Speaker 1: he would be a difficult guy to play with because
Speaker 1: he dances a crossfield a bit, and you know, like,
Speaker 1: how do you think that will potentially impact on the troll?
Speaker 1: Do you think that will have an impact on him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I think I think if I'm getting into
Speaker 2: cancer that I'm Mitron saying to Jerome what what I
Speaker 2: want as his outside player. You know, if I'm Metron
Speaker 2: players and I want early ball. I don't want the
Speaker 2: ball all the time, but when when I call for
Speaker 2: the ball, that's that's when I want it. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I find with Jerome Jerome tends to dance back the
Speaker 2: other way, though he doesn't really cross much towards his
Speaker 2: own sideline. It's always back.
Speaker 1: He steps of the left foot, done here and comes in.
Speaker 2: Front a bit like what Benji used to do. But
Speaker 2: I think, I think, yeah, they're going to have to
Speaker 2: get that intact when they get into camp straight away.
Speaker 2: Jerome needs to be clear with Latrell and what jerome
Speaker 2: plans are. But Latrell also needs to say to Jerome,
Speaker 2: this is what I want. And I think if the
Speaker 2: team is to do well in Melbourne, that's going to
Speaker 2: be the reason, because they can really get along and
Speaker 2: they can.
Speaker 1: I love the idea of Latrell playing the MCG in
Speaker 1: front of I think it's selling the tickets to going
Speaker 1: like hotcakes down there, right, So Latrell the MCG iconic venue,
Speaker 1: Latrell on a big stage. You know, he's a big
Speaker 1: He's a big character, Latrell in our game. He's a
Speaker 1: huge figure in our game. And Latrell turned up MCG
Speaker 1: having a big game against Queens And I just love
Speaker 1: the idea of that. The theater of it all right,
Speaker 1: because you know, on the big stage, that's where Latrell
Speaker 1: always talks about he plays his best footy. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think he get in front of you don't get
Speaker 1: much bigger than the MCG and well, the mcg are
Speaker 1: full house, the MGG. It's pretty unique stage.
Speaker 2: What about the theater of this. Latrell has never lost
Speaker 2: an origin series that he's played in as a Queenslander.
Speaker 2: How does that make you feel? Well?
Speaker 1: I think I think from memory he played in the
Speaker 1: series and I dropped after Game one. They won that series,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't playing.
Speaker 2: Series.
Speaker 1: Billy trusted, Billy re trust baby. They what about Mitchie?
Speaker 1: Moses back as well gets another opportunity in Origin Again, Nick,
Speaker 1: I was disappointing in Origin one. I had a tough night,
Speaker 1: and Mitch would have been there pre if you hadn't
Speaker 1: been injured before Game one comes back plays pretty good
Speaker 1: foot is two games back, I thought, I thought I
Speaker 1: didn't really grab truff the neck the other night, did he?
Speaker 2: I think? I think when the Eels versus the Bulldogs,
Speaker 2: that was a bit telling, like if I was magic.
Speaker 2: I didn't like what I saw there, especially when the.
Speaker 1: Three games back, isn't it three two?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So when when they played the Dogs, yeah, twelve
Speaker 2: man on the field, Moses can't steal that game. That's
Speaker 2: a worrying sign to me. Again against the Risks this week,
Speaker 2: the Eel was picked up a whole bunch of momentum
Speaker 2: and again just couldn't get those finishing touches. And everyone
Speaker 2: says that, oh, Moses was going to be in before
Speaker 2: Heinz anyway, but I'm pretty sure the plan was Moses
Speaker 2: and Heines. I think it was Lui, that was going
Speaker 2: to be the one that was going to miss out.
Speaker 2: So I don't really like the argument. Look, I don't
Speaker 2: think Niko should be in the team. I think Nico
Speaker 2: would be better off going back to club form and
Speaker 2: really trying to get the form back that he started
Speaker 2: the year with. But I think saying that, oh Moses
Speaker 2: would have been in the team anyway with Lui, I
Speaker 2: think that's just kind of a cover up because I
Speaker 2: think the plan was initially that your partner Nico in
Speaker 2: the half.
Speaker 1: It's interesting Mitch after the Bulldogs game, we need to
Speaker 1: him one three to sixteen, but basically said, look, I
Speaker 1: didn't own that game. I didn't I should have stood
Speaker 1: up in the last ten minutes and got us over
Speaker 1: the line. And then on the weekend again he sort
Speaker 1: of didn't own that game either. He sort of shave
Speaker 1: flashes of what he can do, but with the game
Speaker 1: is sort of in the balance, he didn't get his
Speaker 1: team over the line. You know, and Mitch has probably
Speaker 1: go to he's got a point to prove an origin level.
Speaker 1: He comes into a game I've got to win, so
Speaker 1: you know, he needs to own this game. He's kicking
Speaker 1: game is crucial right, it's got arguably the best long
Speaker 1: kicking game in the comp That's probably where nick I
Speaker 1: was a bit deficient. I reckon, He's kicking game wasn't
Speaker 1: great in game one.
Speaker 2: So it's horrible one kick the whole game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Mitch needs to That's part of part of
Speaker 1: the reason Mitch is so attractive to Michael maguire, right,
Speaker 1: because of his kicking game, you know, and he's dangerous.
Speaker 1: I love Mitch when he runs the ball. Think that's
Speaker 1: when he's at his best, when he's running the football
Speaker 1: and kicking along. And yeah, that's what he's got to do.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. In order in order for Mitch to do
Speaker 2: well this game, the forwards need to go forward. They
Speaker 2: need to create a bit of momentum, and Mitch needs
Speaker 2: to be to play off the back of that. Same
Speaker 2: with Jerome, they can both. Look, I'm a bit I
Speaker 2: don't really like the Jerome Moses combination because I think
Speaker 2: we saw it last year and it didn't work very well.
Speaker 2: But if if we can get if the Blues can
Speaker 2: get some go forward and and Moses and lou I
Speaker 2: can play off that it really just sticked to their
Speaker 2: sides of the field. They can see a lot of success,
Speaker 2: especially with their strikeout wide.
Speaker 1: No surprise, Edwards had to be there, right, would have
Speaker 1: been again, he would have been there before.
Speaker 2: I'm the biggest James Esco fany no like controversial, had
Speaker 2: me finish finished and just a I'm the biggest shame
Speaker 2: Seed Esco fan. And I didn't think he should have
Speaker 2: got dropped initially for Game one when the team came out,
Speaker 2: but then after they played on on Wednesday night a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, I thought, I thought that maybe
Speaker 2: he had he played his last game for the Blues.
Speaker 2: And it's not no knock on him, it's just I
Speaker 2: think it's just it didn't look like Tedesco used to look.
Speaker 2: I think the criticism last year was unfair, but I
Speaker 2: think he probably deserved more criticism than he got for
Speaker 2: Game one because I mean that crucial mistackle on on
Speaker 2: Ben Hunt was it was bad and yeah, just he
Speaker 2: looked he looked gas as well, which you're not you're
Speaker 2: not used to seeing from from Teddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Dylan Edwards. As we said, he would
Speaker 1: have been there but for injury in Origin one, and
Speaker 1: you know, I think once they made the decision to
Speaker 1: move on from Teddy and then they lost the Game
Speaker 1: one and Teddy played. I just think you had to
Speaker 1: bring Dylan Edwards back because he don't have the right
Speaker 1: to play. I mean, on with you, I don't think Dylan.
Speaker 1: I thought Teddy should have been been there before the
Speaker 1: Delan Edwards injury. But once they made the decision to
Speaker 1: move to Dylan Edwards, you just got to go all in,
Speaker 1: right in my view, I mean, Madge just had to
Speaker 1: go all in. Dylan Edwards is my man, and once
Speaker 1: he got back and he was fit, we just and
Speaker 1: they had lost game one, you just bring him back in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like ted Teddy had to have amount of the
Speaker 2: match performance and they had to win. If they weren't
Speaker 2: going to win, then the writing was on the wall.
Speaker 2: Almost no matter how how Teddy plays, they didn't win.
Speaker 2: The writing was on the wall. If Dylan was fit,
Speaker 2: he'd come back into the team.
Speaker 1: And what about Cam This one surprised me, right because
Speaker 1: we all know Camo is a great, great player and
Speaker 1: again would have walked into the team if it was
Speaker 1: fit before Origin one. But he's played one game back
Speaker 1: from long term injury. I thought he was a chance
Speaker 1: maybe being on the bench, but to stick him straight
Speaker 1: in the stage. I think he was named thirty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just stick him.
Speaker 1: Straight in the starting side. I was, I was surprised
Speaker 1: by that. It's a big ask.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean we all know what Kemer Murray
Speaker 2: can do. He's a great player on the field, great defensively.
Speaker 2: He doesn't really have me faults in his game. He
Speaker 2: can also cover that that back row spot. Not that
Speaker 2: they need that, but well because they're carrying a La
Speaker 2: Kwato on the bench. But I mean he can cover
Speaker 2: that that back row spot. But I mean, I'm more
Speaker 2: I'm not confused that Camer Murray got picked. I'm more
Speaker 2: confused that Kem mckinness got dropped. That's that's where my
Speaker 2: confusion comes from, because I thought Cam was one of
Speaker 2: our McInnis was one of our best in Game one.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's played bad after after the Origin games.
Speaker 2: Like I'm one of those people that the player needs
Speaker 2: to lose their jersey. You can't just take it off
Speaker 2: and for no reason. And I think like he make
Speaker 2: forty tackles and don't miss it the tackle in Origin
Speaker 2: and you're get your jersey taken off you. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not a big fan of that, but
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Cam Murray.
Speaker 1: So could you have carried could you have gone to
Speaker 1: that game with Murray, Yo, mckinness where you could? But
Speaker 1: would that have worked?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I think in general, like I'd
Speaker 2: rather carry Murray, mcinness and Yo than carry an extra
Speaker 2: second rower on the bench. A lot Olka was quiet
Speaker 2: in game one. Yeah, I thought.
Speaker 1: Really his sort of game though, was yeah, no, only
Speaker 1: down to twelve minutes. It's not really made for him.
Speaker 2: My concern where are you going to play these players?
Speaker 2: Like I don't get as as someone looking in, where
Speaker 2: do you play these players that you like? What? What
Speaker 2: is the actual plan? Cam Murray is an eighty minute player, Like,
Speaker 2: you don't have to take care Murray off the field.
Speaker 2: And you found that when they took mckinness off the
Speaker 2: field in game one, Isaiaho came on and as great
Speaker 2: of a player as Isaiah Oo is, kind of disrupted
Speaker 2: that the flow that they had going there, Like he
Speaker 2: tried to he almost tried to play as an extra halfback,
Speaker 2: which they don't need. You carry an extra second roller
Speaker 2: on the field, but you've got two second rollers that
Speaker 2: that play eighty minutes, like and then you look, you
Speaker 2: look at how Jake got used in game one and
Speaker 2: it's almost like there wasn't a plan there on how
Speaker 2: their rotation was going to work if something went wrong.
Speaker 2: And the rotation seems to have got even a bit
Speaker 2: more confusing now with adding adding Murray and what you
Speaker 2: just swap Murray and yo, like, how does it all work?
Speaker 2: Does Joe come on a front row? But then he
Speaker 2: tries to ball play too much? I love this.
Speaker 1: I love it when you blokes turn on each other.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm turning on the blue I am.
Speaker 1: I'm pointing it.
Speaker 2: I'm pointing out.
Speaker 1: I'm pointing.
Speaker 2: I'm pointing out. I'm pointing out genuine service. I can
Speaker 2: do this about the Queensland team as well.
Speaker 1: We'll get to them. We'll get to them. But the
Speaker 1: big news there Selwyn Cobbo, I think, I mean Billy's
Speaker 1: command explained it this morning, he said, sell and Cobbo
Speaker 1: is not in the team. He's been battling with painkilling ejections.
Speaker 1: He's had some injuries. Kirk Capewall's coming to the team.
Speaker 1: Felics cafusis in as well. Hopgoods out. I believe that
Speaker 1: that's an injury as well, you know, So if those
Speaker 1: places are carrying injuries, I can understand it. Seln you know,
Speaker 1: he was really good knowledge of one thrusting really early
Speaker 1: in that game when a lot of people thought, how
Speaker 1: they're going to use this guy, you know, And obviously
Speaker 1: when re swashing off, the shuffle happened and Selwyn played
Speaker 1: a lot of time. So do you think it hurts
Speaker 1: some a little bit losing Selwyn? In hindsight we all
Speaker 1: went what the hell is he doing on the bench,
Speaker 1: But then after the game we all went, that was
Speaker 1: a great selection. It was a smart move. But they
Speaker 1: haven't sort of got a life for light. They've got
Speaker 1: Kirk Capble on the bench instead of Cobbo, and cap
Speaker 1: was a pretty versatile player, but he's not a selling Cobbo.
Speaker 1: So do you think that hurts Queensland perhaps to an extent?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think if something to cling on to,
Speaker 2: if something, if something goes wrong, it does. But like
Speaker 2: I've never known any coach to prepare for an injury
Speaker 2: like Billy did in Game one. So if Billy doesn't
Speaker 2: do what he did in game one, no one's talking
Speaker 2: about so one getting dropped for this game. But who
Speaker 2: can you replace out of all the Queenslanders, who can
Speaker 2: you put into that that team, that game two team
Speaker 2: that would do the same job as Cobbo on the bench,
Speaker 2: Because yeah, there might be an outside back that goes down,
Speaker 2: But who else if it's not so on Cobbo, who
Speaker 2: else are you going to carry on the bench that
Speaker 2: can play that role?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well the top of my head, I can't.
Speaker 2: I don't think Queensland mind, I don't think Queensland has
Speaker 2: that players.
Speaker 1: No one like he. I mean, he's he's a different cat,
Speaker 1: the way he's built and the way he plays. And
Speaker 1: you know, I mean Kate Wall's completely sort of opposite
Speaker 1: into the spectrum and I said, one's young and and
Speaker 1: sort of just becoming a star. Katebell's sort of at
Speaker 1: the end of his career, the twilight of his career
Speaker 1: and sort of hasn't had a lot of foot a
Speaker 1: couple of injuries, he said, a lot, and he's had
Speaker 1: some in recent years. But they love him. The Queen's
Speaker 1: was loving because he just does a role for them,
Speaker 1: right And you know, and Folice Confusi's back in the
Speaker 1: team as well with hop good out. Yeah, well he's
Speaker 1: playing good footy police.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well Confusie was playing good footy last year and
Speaker 2: you can get picked. I was on a point out
Speaker 2: Dane go guy has been been named. I find it's
Speaker 2: really interesting, especially from New South Welshman. They kind of
Speaker 2: both Felice and Dane got got shafted last year. We
Speaker 2: don't we don't want you. Now all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: Shaft has been now how would you describe it?
Speaker 2: Then they were told that they weren't needed and they
Speaker 2: weren't wanted all for the Queensland loyalty. Wasn't really loyal
Speaker 2: to do it there now, I'll what's the questions? Now?
Speaker 2: All of a sudden they're they're back and welcome in.
Speaker 1: We both.
Speaker 2: I find it admirable that they're able to come back
Speaker 2: into the four games. That's fair enough, but I find
Speaker 2: it admirable that they are. There's was more they missed
Speaker 2: out in a full series. James didn't end up missing
Speaker 2: out in a game. But I find it was pretty
Speaker 2: brutal their actions. Yeah, they were welcome. They think we're
Speaker 2: all shocked.
Speaker 1: At Dan and Gag. I got flicked when he did.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you know, I think Billy, I think
Speaker 1: there's the marker Billy right, the way Billy handles it,
Speaker 1: the way Billy explains to players perhaps why they've been
Speaker 1: overlooked and why they weren't selected, and he's able to
Speaker 1: sort of keep them in his good books even though he's,
Speaker 1: as you said, basically shafted them. So you know, to me,
Speaker 1: it's it shows the respect they have for Billy and
Speaker 1: the respect of the way Billy handles these situations, you know.
Speaker 1: I think I think that's why guys like gag On
Speaker 1: Confusia more than happy to come back. Plus it's worth
Speaker 1: thirty grandy, which helps us well. Right, And they love
Speaker 1: the jersey brother the own jersey. They love it.
Speaker 2: They won't love it after next Wednesday.
Speaker 1: What do you think? What are you thinking? You're thinking
Speaker 1: you're a chance or what?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I like it's a better I think it's
Speaker 1: a better team.
Speaker 2: I think it's a way better team. And I think
Speaker 2: I think like it's just got it's got a Latrell
Speaker 2: Mitchell game breaker just all over it. And I like Latrell.
Speaker 2: I think Latrild is best. I think Latrell's the center is. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's scary.
Speaker 1: Platrell's gonna be Latrell will be the story, win or lose, right,
Speaker 1: I mean that's the way it generally happens with Latrell.
Speaker 1: He hears the story all right, so there's every chance
Speaker 1: he goes to Melbourne and shoots the lights out.
Speaker 2: And I think they put him against Valentine Holmes and
Speaker 2: I think Patrol scores two to three tries.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, they'll take that as a challenge. My man
Speaker 1: Tyson's let's go a bit the club footy. Well, I
Speaker 1: was going to start with Manly's good win over the Dragons,
Speaker 1: but I reckon we should start light Art Oval, the
Speaker 1: Eighth Wonder, the Eighth Blunder of the World, with those
Speaker 1: scenes at the local tip called Lockout Oval on the weekend.
Speaker 1: Great we I'm so happy for Benji and Shane rich
Speaker 1: and they put a lot of work and put a
Speaker 1: lot of faith in His team lost nine in a row.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the greatest game, but you know that some
Speaker 1: kids make the Jordan Miller played pretty well when he
Speaker 1: got was on there. I thought Heath Mason looked really good. Actually,
Speaker 1: there were there were some some green shoots for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, I was there, yes, right under Their
Speaker 2: were always professional, always professional, and yeah, it was. It
Speaker 2: was great. I was when I when I saw the
Speaker 2: leader the Tigers, Ama Tiger supporter if anyone hasn't watched
Speaker 2: it before. But they didn't have a great record against
Speaker 2: the Titans, especially that, like my mate pointed out to me,
Speaker 2: we haven't beat them since two thousand and eight or
Speaker 2: nine at likeheard Oval.
Speaker 1: Or to be fair, before this year, he hadn't won
Speaker 1: a lot of games.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, well, I reckon, we need to play
Speaker 2: every game there because Sharks.
Speaker 1: Forget the fans and the facilities, that's all right, but
Speaker 1: forget the corporates, you know.
Speaker 2: Like it was. It was amazing to see the turnout
Speaker 2: for a team that's coming was coming, come on, the
Speaker 2: crow was another team? What other teams? It was pissing
Speaker 2: down rain. The team's coming last when.
Speaker 1: You looked and there, don't give me the turnout.
Speaker 2: It was a great turnout. I've seen games at win
Speaker 2: Stadium they have three thousand people.
Speaker 1: When I can't believe this Tiger when it is.
Speaker 2: Pouring down rain, Let's go to Manly when it's pouring
Speaker 2: down rain, who's rocking.
Speaker 1: Around ten thousand Brookies? Never there was eight thousand, Don't
Speaker 1: give me it was.
Speaker 2: It was a good turnout for the day. Good said,
Speaker 2: it was great.
Speaker 1: Fan.
Speaker 2: We're playing We're playing guys that played in s G
Speaker 2: ball this year, and the fans are still rocking up
Speaker 2: to see their team play and saw them pull out
Speaker 2: a gutsy win.
Speaker 1: Well, they were calling it on there most of the
Speaker 1: first half.
Speaker 2: I mean they looked well, times were running one hundred
Speaker 2: meters in the time.
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. But yeah, there was some I thought
Speaker 1: he played unbelievable, played really well. Stefano know who's had
Speaker 1: a I mean Stefano's gone off the boil a bit,
Speaker 1: but I thought he was really good. Ste Funny you
Speaker 1: talk commando.
Speaker 2: Forty second stint, his second stint really cemented his first stint.
Speaker 2: It was it was good, but it was almost like
Speaker 2: that of st pattern we've seen the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: His second stint, he really came in and and I
Speaker 2: think was a big part of the reason the Tiger's
Speaker 2: got away with that win. And so you were on
Speaker 2: the hill, Yes, I was on the hill.
Speaker 1: I was spending forty million dollars on like. I was right,
Speaker 1: I was clear clear and he was about four hundred
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I was right next to the Hey Thurston guy. You
Speaker 2: remember him from a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: He was, Oh, yeah, they showed foot each other day.
Speaker 2: He was standing behind me and this guy keeps showing
Speaker 2: I'm like, why is his voice out so familiar?
Speaker 1: And I looked, was he abusy on the weekend? Just
Speaker 1: that he likes Queenland? I stay away from him anyway.
Speaker 1: It was a great scenes that like. And I'm happy
Speaker 1: for the Tigers. I'm really happy for the Tigers fans,
Speaker 1: so you should be. Yeah. So the ground still a hobble,
Speaker 1: but it's getting some money spent on forty Be happy
Speaker 1: about that when you like forty million bucks. I think
Speaker 1: I described it as lipstick on a pig. But that's what.
Speaker 2: If it makes people like you happy reading. I'm happy
Speaker 2: with the way it is.
Speaker 1: I think it needs at least one hundred mills spent
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: You're going to dish out undred gift to.
Speaker 1: The love that ground so much? Well not not on
Speaker 1: only eight thousand people turn up. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about There was a decent crowd of brook
Speaker 1: Fail sorry four points Park on Sunday. Manly. I thought
Speaker 1: daily Cherry Evans in this game ridiculous.
Speaker 2: You ask yourself had the Dragons lose?
Speaker 1: And then I think that no one on the bench right,
Speaker 1: mainly at the end of that game.
Speaker 2: There was one play there the Dragons scored off it,
Speaker 2: but they had three plays mainly had three plays down,
Speaker 2: and you go, how how have they not run away
Speaker 2: with this game?
Speaker 1: But I think Corey Woodell could barely walk and was
Speaker 1: still on the field. But Darley just produced a humble
Speaker 1: he's kicking game, just a real captain's knock, as they say, right,
Speaker 1: he gets his like fine wine chestnut, fine wine with age. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, And the Dragons are really disappointed. I mean,
Speaker 1: mainly won pretty well in the end. But the Dragons
Speaker 1: against the team that had no one left on the
Speaker 1: in changement for most of the second half, they probably
Speaker 1: had no right to win this game, manly, but it
Speaker 1: could be a real turning point in the season because
Speaker 1: they've been sort of bit up and down.
Speaker 2: Manly.
Speaker 1: This was a real gritty, gutsy with sort of when
Speaker 1: you can build a seat, they always say it's a
Speaker 1: sort of win we can build a season around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you hear coaches and players say that. I think it's
Speaker 1: mumbo jumbo.
Speaker 2: But anyway, They're one of those teams that I think
Speaker 2: they just need. They need that momentum swing and when
Speaker 2: they play well that can they can beat anyone in
Speaker 2: the competition. But they mainly never seemed to play bad.
Speaker 2: They always seem to go be quiet. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 2: where that's where you know teams are getting them. I
Speaker 2: think there's a lot more to say about the Dragons,
Speaker 2: because the Dragons look like world beaters one week and then.
Speaker 1: You just before we go there, and I'll tell you
Speaker 1: who can play le.
Speaker 2: How good is that kid?
Speaker 1: Eighteen years old?
Speaker 2: He might force Troyvitch to the centers.
Speaker 1: Well, I was going to ask you about that. Surely not,
Speaker 1: that's some surely not.
Speaker 2: Well, I'd rather Toms Voyvage playing the centers and play
Speaker 2: every week than Tom Voyage played four weeks of half
Speaker 2: decent footy and then miss ten weeks too.
Speaker 1: It was a question for you, do you, potentially, if
Speaker 1: you want to play Tommy at fullback, play lehigh in
Speaker 1: the centers and maybe move a Rubin Garrick.
Speaker 2: He's too small to the wing, small eyes, really small. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like you've got.
Speaker 1: To find spot for him. He's got to keep your
Speaker 1: spot somewhere in the maybe off the off the bench,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know if you could play
Speaker 1: them off the bench, could you?
Speaker 2: Again, it's like you're carrying, you're carrying someone that is
Speaker 2: a fullback, maybe a wing like I don't even think
Speaker 2: he's a wing. I think I think he's a fullback
Speaker 2: like you're not. If you want to find a spot
Speaker 2: for him, he spots fullback, you've got to move to voyvage.
Speaker 2: And as good as Tommy is, has he done enough
Speaker 2: this year to say that he's been manly his best footall.
Speaker 2: I think after the three games of Lea I've played
Speaker 2: that he's proven that he's he's up there and he
Speaker 2: can he can take that team.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, right, this wasn't on the run sheets. I'm
Speaker 1: throwing Jason off here, But that's an interesting dilemma, right
Speaker 1: with Tommy and Lee High. Ryan Pap is back this
Speaker 1: week and did you watch Melbourne on the weekend so
Speaker 1: far long ago? Who was unbelievable unbelievable football again, a
Speaker 1: young fullback. I imagine I'll just move Paps back to
Speaker 1: fullback and Sue will either play on the wing or
Speaker 1: off the Kazue has played some wing in Queensland Cup
Speaker 1: or off the bench. But it's a similar sort of conundrum,
Speaker 1: right because you've got a kid who's just braining it.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you saw Sue far Longer on the
Speaker 1: weekend scored two tries and it's just a ridiculous, ridiculous talent.
Speaker 1: His footwork's crazy.
Speaker 2: You can play, you can play. I think you can.
Speaker 2: Craig Bellamy might be tempted to start pap Ho and
Speaker 2: off the bench. I think easy him back in every
Speaker 2: time he runs the ball. I found this year, every
Speaker 2: time papanaw has run the ball, he's played good for
Speaker 2: you this year, Like you kind of like like you know,
Speaker 2: you don't. You don't want to see him get hurt.
Speaker 2: So I think I think they might be. And because
Speaker 2: of how good Farlongo's for him is, there might be
Speaker 2: some push to maybe start perhaps off the bench. But
Speaker 2: do you think perhaps will make his way back into
Speaker 2: that starting team. But again, like I think, I think
Speaker 2: is a bit of a different case. I think you
Speaker 2: can play him in a couple of different positions. But
Speaker 2: I mean it's I think it's a good headache to have.
Speaker 2: I I'd rather have that headache than not have enough
Speaker 2: bit like the Tigers and put two players that have
Speaker 2: played an SG ball this year on the field.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's look at a couple of other games quickly,
Speaker 1: Penrith knights on On on Saturday, or some vision of
Speaker 1: the Warriors Melbourne game. Smart pass that boy, was it
Speaker 1: chance pass? But there was a it was a great win.
Speaker 1: Did you watch this game? Unbelievable win by Melbourne then
Speaker 1: touched boll the first twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like gone. It looked like the Warriors
Speaker 2: were We're gonna yeah, but.
Speaker 1: They were just gritty Melbourne. There was a great and
Speaker 1: this was a great win. I thought for Melbourne. Was
Speaker 1: that crowd, well, I think they've been This game has
Speaker 1: been sold there for weeks apparently. I think they've sold
Speaker 1: that four or five games in a row over there.
Speaker 2: It's when when New Zealand Rugby League is forcing New
Speaker 2: Zealand Rugby Union to change times for games, is it
Speaker 2: is crazy?
Speaker 1: This is what we did. We need to have a
Speaker 1: team there. We need a team in the Southland and
Speaker 1: New Zealand.
Speaker 2: I think that would be better than a team, you know,
Speaker 2: almost anywhere else. Like you've got to look at audience
Speaker 2: and what the people want, and if that's the I
Speaker 2: also don't want. What's happening to the Warrior is now
Speaker 2: to get taken away to move to another.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, I think they'll do it in
Speaker 1: due course, right, they'll eventually end up at two teams
Speaker 1: in New Zealand. Maybe maybe it's eight nine years away,
Speaker 1: but it will happen. So Jerome Hughes is crazy good
Speaker 1: in this game too. He's such a good player, you know,
Speaker 1: Penrith Knights. I thought the Knights were hoping this game.
Speaker 2: I don't know why. It was always when they're at home.
Speaker 1: Jerome was outstanding this game, set up a few tries,
Speaker 1: played really good football. But they've just got so much depth.
Speaker 1: Peters and Blakes just said, look, Scott Sorenson, like he's
Speaker 1: just a he's just a worry of that guy. He
Speaker 1: just turns up every week. But they are, you know,
Speaker 1: they've just got the job done, the Panthers, and it's
Speaker 1: just what they do, right, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, we're used to it now. We're used to it now.
Speaker 2: And the Night started to make it a bit of
Speaker 2: a comeback towards the end, but yeah, never never a
Speaker 2: down and Dromalizer making impressive case on my why he
Speaker 2: should get that starting spot of the Tigers with our
Speaker 2: big half scannundrum at the moment.
Speaker 1: So yeah, very happy he's done. You know what, he
Speaker 1: would have given Tigers fans a lot of hope the
Speaker 1: ways played half back in Nathan's absence. I mean a
Speaker 1: lot of some people doubt whether he could do it.
Speaker 1: I think he's been great.
Speaker 2: I think he's been the best foot he's played in
Speaker 2: his career. To be honest, he's he's really taking that step.
Speaker 2: But other times where Nate's been out, he's played the
Speaker 2: same role and you know you had a Shna Sullivan
Speaker 2: come in, or you had you know, you had whoever
Speaker 2: Panthers could pluck out come in. But this time I
Speaker 2: think he kind of I think he's got a chip
Speaker 2: on his shoulder from Ivan Cleary. Ivan Cleary made some
Speaker 2: comments when he signed initially with the Tigers about you know,
Speaker 2: he's not half back in this and I think he's
Speaker 2: he's kind of proving.
Speaker 1: In Galvin pretty decent combo.
Speaker 2: Next year, Yeah, with Galvin's happy much.
Speaker 1: Not sure how long you'll get to enjoy not Lockman Galvin,
Speaker 1: but you probably haven't at least another year. I'd imagine
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. I would imagine it's a decent tandem
Speaker 1: him and Jerome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he's got some potential to it. You've
Speaker 2: got lat too as well. Yeah, there's there's options, which
Speaker 2: is always nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah. A couple of quickly again Sharks Thursday night.
Speaker 2: Disappointing.
Speaker 1: They're just defensively. Craig Fitzgiven will be filthy with the
Speaker 1: way they defended. They've been defensively this year at times
Speaker 1: they've been in a bomb nation. Yeah, and they considered
Speaker 1: three tries, and I mean fifteen minutes or something. They
Speaker 1: were getting floored.
Speaker 2: I was worried Dolphins were going to put fifty on them.
Speaker 1: What about this try? It's many better than this from
Speaker 1: the Hammer.
Speaker 2: One one of the best, and I love this moment
Speaker 2: here and he spots Kennedy after Kennedy got the better
Speaker 2: of him, and he just makes a fool of him.
Speaker 1: Why didn't you get low?
Speaker 2: There?
Speaker 1: Can you tell me what was he trying to take
Speaker 1: you around the Why didn't you go low? Really?
Speaker 2: Have you ever tried to tackle someone running at the
Speaker 2: speed the Hammer runs slowed down?
Speaker 1: Slowed down?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it tricks you like you get you
Speaker 2: know when you're the cat roll with our legs. Brother,
Speaker 2: tell you when people went lower man, they hit my
Speaker 2: legs sometimes, you know, it wasn't the best It wasn't
Speaker 2: the best thing. So I wouldn't want to hit Hammer's legs.
Speaker 2: I think he'd probably have better legs than me.
Speaker 1: So I recommend Latrell not watch that, or whoever whoever's
Speaker 1: marking the Hammer watched those highlights because actually Latrell posted
Speaker 1: I think in Instagram after that try oh yeah, saying yeah,
Speaker 1: someone given Hammer a rap and then he probably sat
Speaker 1: back and thought I might have to mark that like
Speaker 1: next week.
Speaker 2: He's already doing his He's already doing he was.
Speaker 1: Doing his research on getting ready. He's alluring Hammer into
Speaker 1: a false sense of security. It was tough on Nick.
Speaker 1: You know, he's had a tough Nikhens had a tough
Speaker 1: week or two. He had that goal that actually shot
Speaker 1: a goal the center to golden point, never really looked
Speaker 1: like getting it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the commentators they were like, he's got to swing
Speaker 2: it back and it's just the direction I was and
Speaker 2: the moment left his boot, you thought that that's going
Speaker 2: to miss. He lined it like I'm a goal kicking excerpt.
Speaker 2: But he like almost lined it up to go exactly
Speaker 2: where it went. I was looking at him when he
Speaker 2: put it on the tee. I was like, that's not
Speaker 2: heading towards the post. So I don't know if it
Speaker 2: was really windy at Shark Park that night, but yeah,
Speaker 2: like it was heading, it's heading straight. It was heading
Speaker 2: straight exactly where it went, went straight off the off
Speaker 2: the tee.
Speaker 1: So it's hard not to feel. He's such a good blke.
Speaker 1: He does such good stuff in the community, and he's
Speaker 1: such a great leader and great figure in our game.
Speaker 1: It's it's hard not to feel a bit of sympathy
Speaker 1: for Nick and what he's going through at the moment.
Speaker 2: Put the great blokesuff. So he's a great player. He's
Speaker 2: a great player, and you.
Speaker 1: Have about the person of the player mate a bit
Speaker 1: more love both.
Speaker 2: You know, if you're a good if you're a good
Speaker 2: person and a good player, that helps you're the best
Speaker 2: n our roll person in the world. But yeah, he's
Speaker 2: a great player, and it sucks that that, you know,
Speaker 2: he's hit this kind of rough patch of form when
Speaker 2: things were looking so promising. But rugby league's a brutal game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was sort of it. It was sort of
Speaker 1: set up for if miss that after the week he's
Speaker 1: had to then have a kick to Senator Golden Point,
Speaker 1: and to miss it, he just sort of went Nicko's
Speaker 1: Luck's not into the moment, is it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't want to jinx him, but things should
Speaker 2: only get better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as it should quickly. Listen our last one quickly,
Speaker 1: as it should for the Broncos. Broncos when Adam Reynolds
Speaker 1: gets back, which is a long time, always sadly by
Speaker 1: then they need to have some wins. They just was.
Speaker 1: I was at their game on Friday Nights against South.
Speaker 1: They were never in it. Yeah, never in it. No Walsh,
Speaker 1: no Reynolds, no chance, as they're saying the classics, I was.
Speaker 2: I was at the sun carp last week when they
Speaker 2: verst the Sharks and another game they probably the three
Speaker 2: games cale Yeah, yeah, went up to the first time
Speaker 2: that uncorp really Yeah, what do you think beautiful place
Speaker 2: queen after Yeah? Yeah, it was led to the Catston Hotel.
Speaker 1: I did have some four X you got the full experience, baby.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many times we'll be going back,
Speaker 2: So I was lapping it up while I was there.
Speaker 2: He came back with one head, But yeah, quould they
Speaker 2: should have They should have won that game. They should
Speaker 2: have won, They should have won the last three. I
Speaker 2: don't think that half have been that bad. But it's just, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're missing something. And I'm trying to even remember a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago when the Roosters just hit that
Speaker 2: really patriform neck. It's almost almost similar to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're really It's a real battlet the moment,
Speaker 1: Kevy was His comments after the game were a bit bizarre, really.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jordan Ricky came up with it was a
Speaker 1: late hit on Cat Murray actually, and we asked Kevy
Speaker 1: about it. He got simmd for it. We asked Kevy
Speaker 1: after the game about it, and he said, I probably
Speaker 1: should have got sent off. And then he said, but
Speaker 1: he won't get charged, will he? How does that make
Speaker 1: any sense? Mind who's been suspended for two to three games?
Speaker 2: I think from them, yeah, yeah, he go, that was bad.
Speaker 1: It was a cheap shot, and the troll get fired
Speaker 1: up about it, But that was just that's just frustration, right.
Speaker 1: They were frustrated footage team because things just aren't going
Speaker 1: their way at the moment.
Speaker 2: I don't think I was malice in it, Like I
Speaker 2: think I think he wanted to hit the ball, but
Speaker 2: I just think it lapse of concentration. I think that's
Speaker 2: kind of defined the last three weeks of the Broncos.
Speaker 2: That's concentration and then something stupid happens and then just
Speaker 2: piles on. Well that's the Broncos for you at the moment.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll turn it. They'll turn it around. Just
Speaker 1: got to get a few players back. We should finish.
Speaker 1: I know it's a week and a half away. We
Speaker 1: should get a little Origin prediction from me. What are
Speaker 1: you thinking? We can do them again next Monday. But
Speaker 1: just let's just let's record this. Well we are recording it.
Speaker 1: Let's see if you change down the illustrated the Bowl
Speaker 1: give a ship.
Speaker 2: Prediction Blues thirty six eighteen thirty.
Speaker 1: Wow, Well that's a big one. I'm going to go
Speaker 1: Queensland twenty two fourteen. The series will be overhead in
Speaker 1: the same court, and if it's not, you can head
Speaker 1: up there and walk down May You've got to go.
Speaker 1: If you're going to go to Sun Court, you've got
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 2: Origin night. Yeah, that's that's the.
Speaker 1: Best night of That's the best night of the year
Speaker 1: Origin Night at suncur.
Speaker 2: Talk to the busses about.
Speaker 1: Leave there.
Speaker 2: Thanks for johnning us on a.
Speaker 1: Daily Telegraph in or podcast. We'll catch you next week.