Speaker 1: From the United States. This is Paul Murray Live get
Speaker 1: I Australia. Good morning from Washington. Hey, have you heard.
Speaker 2: The news in Alaska? What does that mean? The race
Speaker 2: to two seventy, Well, that is now over. Donald Trump
Speaker 2: wins the state of Alaska and as a result, Donald
Speaker 2: Trump is once again going to be the President of
Speaker 2: the United States.
Speaker 3: The Fox News Decision desk can now officially project that
Speaker 3: Donald Trump will become the forty seventh president of the
Speaker 3: United States.
Speaker 4: The foreign presidents come back will be complete with a
Speaker 4: win in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: How extraordinary.
Speaker 5: It is the greatest comeback in modern political history. To
Speaker 5: find an example of it, you don't have one this century.
Speaker 5: You don't have one last century. You got to go
Speaker 5: back to the century before that when they had the
Speaker 5: eighteen in front of the years that were being counted down.
Speaker 5: Now there are many images, many stories, many things to
Speaker 5: tell you about, many things that you've watched happen all
Speaker 5: the way through the day. And I've done my best
Speaker 5: to play that straight news bat because, as I said,
Speaker 5: all day long, you don't want to rub people's face
Speaker 5: in it. That's not cool, it's not okay. You've got
Speaker 5: to be a good win because you've got to be
Speaker 5: paying attention to the people who are feeling the loss.
Speaker 5: But we're got to soak the moment in as well.
Speaker 5: This is an incredible moment in history. It is an
Speaker 5: incredible victory for people who had been ignored, who had
Speaker 5: been called garbage, who had been told that their views
Speaker 5: were not in polite society any further, and they roared.
Speaker 5: And these were the same people who four years ago
Speaker 5: sacked Donald Trump, the same people in the same swing
Speaker 5: states who have now rehired Donald Trump. And in an
Speaker 5: evening of extraordinary images, a campaign of images, when I
Speaker 5: think we all felt exactly the same thing July fifteenth,
Speaker 5: Australian Time that when the bloke got shot, his reaction
Speaker 5: was not to crumble, but was to fight, fight, fight,
Speaker 5: And his call all the way through the campaign was fight, fight, fight, vote, vote, vote,
Speaker 5: And now he gets to say win, win, win. You
Speaker 5: need to have a look at this photo because this
Speaker 5: is going to be one for the history books. This
Speaker 5: is a photo of the exact moment Donald Trump returned
Speaker 5: to the presidency. He's backstage waiting to go on stage
Speaker 5: at his supporters in Florida. His son took the photo
Speaker 5: as he's watching on to the numbers being counted and
Speaker 5: then the result being declared. To have that image before us,
Speaker 5: to have an insight into the most personal of moments,
Speaker 5: is a perfect example about in many ways, the open
Speaker 5: book that is.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and is his candidacy time.
Speaker 5: It can be ugly to read at times, it can
Speaker 5: be difficult to read at times, it doesn't make a
Speaker 5: lot of sense, but it's always an open book. And
Speaker 5: the idea that this was not some sort of filtered
Speaker 5: special image that was curated by a campaign. It was
Speaker 5: a son who took a photo of his father, his
Speaker 5: father fighting back to the place where he will now
Speaker 5: lead the free world.
Speaker 1: I find it unbelievable.
Speaker 5: And as we were sitting back watching all of it happen,
Speaker 5: the inevitability coming minute after minute, state after state, hour
Speaker 5: after hour in lefty land where they thought there was
Speaker 5: no chance, where this was the basket of deplorables, when
Speaker 5: this was the people who had been run out of town,
Speaker 5: to see them coming back.
Speaker 1: Not quite coping.
Speaker 6: I think what it's all said and done, what you're
Speaker 6: going to see is a huge divide over people who
Speaker 6: are college educated and not college educated. Black voters came
Speaker 6: through for Kamala Harris. White women voters did not pure
Speaker 6: Project twenty twenty five in miniature in Florida and that
Speaker 6: kind of extreme, sort of extremist, right wing fascist type
Speaker 6: government in Florida, Does that make it a more attractive place?
Speaker 7: Thinking about the people who are not a part of
Speaker 7: anybody's elite, who are hurting tonight. There are African American
Speaker 7: women who know a little bit about being talked down to,
Speaker 7: you know, a little bit about having their economic dreams crushed,
Speaker 7: who tried to dream a big dream over the past
Speaker 7: couple of months, and tonight they're trading in a lot
Speaker 7: of hope for a lot of hurt.
Speaker 1: And that may be true, certainly for African American women.
Speaker 5: The idea that there was on the verge of a
Speaker 5: potential first female presidency and a first female president of color,
Speaker 5: I get it, okay, And what I'm saying is not
Speaker 5: about those people.
Speaker 1: But the reality was is that in many ways, the.
Speaker 5: People who who they turned to for information have lied
Speaker 5: to them, have lied to them about the chances of
Speaker 5: what was happening in this election.
Speaker 1: The New York Times polls that we've talked.
Speaker 5: About day in and day out, when you actually dug
Speaker 5: into the detail. Eighty percent of people had made their
Speaker 5: decision about what they were going to do in the
Speaker 5: American election months ago, so it didn't matter what happened
Speaker 5: with the comedian at Madison Square Garden. It didn't matter
Speaker 5: necessarily whether Trump had a good day on the trail
Speaker 5: or a bad day on the trail. They had made
Speaker 5: their choice, and they had made their choice because the
Speaker 5: government that they hired to replace Donald Trump did not
Speaker 5: deliver for them. They saw a man who, whether many
Speaker 5: people like it or not, was a man who had
Speaker 5: been tested over and over again from court room to
Speaker 5: the media, not even treating his candidacy, one that deserved
Speaker 5: to be listened to about what he was promising. Like
Speaker 5: every day, and I've been diving deep into this for months,
Speaker 5: every day he would make an announcement about, say, no
Speaker 5: tax on Social Security, that you turn on the American
Speaker 5: news or you try to find things in the paper
Speaker 5: about it, no mention, just a silly comment that was
Speaker 5: made by someone somewhere else, Because there's no possible way
Speaker 5: that Donald Trump would be able to have a message
Speaker 5: that anyone would want to hear. But of course they did.
Speaker 5: As for Trump, when he eventually took the stage. I
Speaker 5: think the best part of two o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 5: He took to the stage, and he got rid of
Speaker 5: the teleprompter. He was surrounded by his family, who he
Speaker 5: loves the most, and of course the supporters who built
Speaker 5: a coalition around him that I'm going to talk about
Speaker 5: a bit tonight, because when the left wins, they talk
Speaker 5: about how clever everyone was, and when the right wings win,
Speaker 5: they think that there's some sort of aberration or cheat
Speaker 5: or a mistake that's been made.
Speaker 1: Quite the opposite.
Speaker 5: I'll get to that in a second, but some of
Speaker 5: the stuff that happened in the speech just a little
Speaker 5: longer than you may well hear in other places. He's
Speaker 5: an example of him talking about that coalition, the coalition
Speaker 5: that stretches from say Robert F. Kennedy all the way
Speaker 5: through to the boss of the UFC.
Speaker 8: His campaign has been so historic in so many ways.
Speaker 8: We've built the biggest, the broadest, the most unified coalition.
Speaker 8: They've never seen anything like it in all of American history.
Speaker 9: They've never seen any.
Speaker 8: Young and old men and women, rural and urban, and
Speaker 8: we had them all helping us.
Speaker 1: Tonight, when you think.
Speaker 5: And remember when he was shot and he was going
Speaker 5: to give his speech to the Republican National Convention, it
Speaker 5: was all about you know, has he changed?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah he has, because like every.
Speaker 5: Human being who goes through life, what happens to you
Speaker 5: changes you.
Speaker 1: And think about it.
Speaker 5: Millimeters from dying, the stakes of the election being if
Speaker 5: he lost, he was going to go to prison for
Speaker 5: the rest of his life. The example of him as
Speaker 5: a slightly changed person because of those events was pretty
Speaker 5: obvious in this bit of his speech.
Speaker 8: Too many people have told me that God spared my
Speaker 8: life for a reason, and that reason was to save
Speaker 8: our country and to restore America. To greet this and
Speaker 8: now we are going to fulfill that mission.
Speaker 9: Together, We're going to fulfill that mission.
Speaker 5: And one last thing about his speech, and I've been
Speaker 5: thinking about this for a little while.
Speaker 1: What does the word fight mean? Now?
Speaker 5: Obviously, in its worst possible sense, it's about confrontation. But
Speaker 5: I think in terms of those that have seen Trump coming,
Speaker 5: or have been pro Trump or trump literate even for
Speaker 5: the past eight years, fight means standing up for what
Speaker 5: you believe in, leaning in on what you believe in,
Speaker 5: standing up for your friends, and in the case of
Speaker 5: somebody trying to run for national office. Yeah, putting your
Speaker 5: own country first. Now, that will have its complications. And
Speaker 5: I'm not going to pretend that the sky is rosy,
Speaker 5: and it's going to be for some a bit of
Speaker 5: a rough ride. But to me, normal people fight every day,
Speaker 5: and they fight everything from getting the kids ready to
Speaker 5: go to school, to fighting the traffic, to fighting their workload,
Speaker 5: to fighting to stave off illness, all sorts of things.
Speaker 5: So when I hear the word fight, I don't hear conflict.
Speaker 10: By his strength, the task before us will not be easy,
Speaker 10: but I will bring every ounce of energy, spirit and
Speaker 10: fighting that I have in my soul to the job
Speaker 10: you've entrusted to me. This is a great job. There's
Speaker 10: no job like this.
Speaker 8: This is the most important job in the world.
Speaker 5: All right, let's have a look in the results and
Speaker 5: a little bit more deeply. First things first, he's going
Speaker 5: to win the popular vote. Now, a Republican has not
Speaker 5: done that for a very long time, especially when you
Speaker 5: think about the populations of New York, California, Medians and
Speaker 5: millions of people. Now, California's vote will come in in
Speaker 5: the next little while, and it'll be a little bit
Speaker 5: closer than what you can see on your screen, but
Speaker 5: at sixty six million versus sixty one midion, that is
Speaker 5: an extraordinary result if you have a look at the
Speaker 5: different types of maps that are around the entire Blue War,
Speaker 5: while he took to that with a sledgehammer. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan.
Speaker 5: We stand by for official confirmation in Arizona and.
Speaker 1: Also in Georgia.
Speaker 5: But let's have a look at again those swing states
Speaker 5: and how they all ended up going. Remember the seven
Speaker 5: that were required Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 5: Wisconsin one.
Speaker 1: Two, three, four, five, six.
Speaker 5: Seven, clean sweep, and put simply in terms of the
Speaker 5: strange feeling that I had sitting here as the numbers
Speaker 5: are all coming in and I'm starting to watch, and
Speaker 5: I'm going, oh, well, okay, doesn't something happen in the
Speaker 5: big cities that reverses all of this. As a boxing match,
Speaker 5: he won all twelve rounds and he saves the knockout
Speaker 5: for the twelfth round, and that's going to be very
Speaker 5: frustrating for Democrats and very frustrating for the medium, very
Speaker 5: frustrating for people who thought that this thing was all
Speaker 5: raises edge and all the rest of it. And I
Speaker 5: stand by what I've been trying to hook you into
Speaker 5: for the past few weeks and months, which is that
Speaker 5: in the end, I don't know what the margins are
Speaker 5: in the states. I'll study that in the next little while.
Speaker 5: And in the end, if you win a state, it's
Speaker 5: winner take all, and it doesn't matter if you win
Speaker 5: by one thousand, five thousand, or on hundred thousand votes.
Speaker 5: So the electoral college will look probably even bigger. But
Speaker 5: to win the popular vote, that was what Hillary Clinton
Speaker 5: hid behind, to pretend that there was a need to
Speaker 5: change the system, that the electric College was some sort
Speaker 5: of old school, weird connection back to the seventeen hundreds.
Speaker 1: The reality is.
Speaker 5: Is that the popular vote and the electric college has
Speaker 5: gone his way. Now, let's also dive into even deeper
Speaker 5: numbers that I know you haven't seen because I've been
Speaker 5: here all day, all right, And this comes to us
Speaker 5: via our friends at Fox News. They have done a
Speaker 5: thing which is not just an exit poll, but they've
Speaker 5: also got together with the Associated Press to go really
Speaker 5: deep into who voted where. This will be fascinating to
Speaker 5: read and study. But some of the headlines you need
Speaker 5: to see here. Okay, now, remember male, female, all the
Speaker 5: rest of it. Yep, Harris won the female vote fifty
Speaker 5: three to forty five, Trump on the male vote fifty
Speaker 5: four to forty four. The overall composition of the electriate
Speaker 5: fifty four percent women to forty five percent men. So
Speaker 5: the idea that it's just a whole bunch of blokes
Speaker 5: who all got together, No, there were plenty of women
Speaker 5: too who wanted change and would not vote for the
Speaker 5: status quo.
Speaker 1: In terms of the groups, this is fascinating, isn't it.
Speaker 5: Fifty two percent, fifty one percent as well for eighteen
Speaker 5: to twenty nine, thirty to forty four's, forty five to
Speaker 5: sixty four, and sixty five plus. Well, the break is
Speaker 5: that basically at forty five the vote starts.
Speaker 1: To move towards Trump.
Speaker 5: But that said, you really need to pay attention here
Speaker 5: that eighteen to twenty nine year olds, forty six percent
Speaker 5: of them voted for Trump, forty seven percent of thirty
Speaker 5: to forty four year olds. So that is extraordinary for
Speaker 5: a blow coup. Of course, at some point will crack
Speaker 5: over eighty as the president that he was able to
Speaker 5: win over those young voters and A key reason why
Speaker 5: he did that was because he was where they are
Speaker 5: in terms of the media. We've really got to have
Speaker 5: a big, long chat and no will in a moment
Speaker 5: or two is time with my mate James Morrow, which
Speaker 5: is for an awful lot of people. Yes, they watch
Speaker 5: things like you were doing right now, perhaps live at home,
Speaker 5: but then there's a bunch of people who watch YouTubers,
Speaker 5: listen to podcasters, and there's a there's a theory in
Speaker 5: marketing which is that if you market to demographics like
Speaker 5: men and women and eighteen to twenty fours and this
Speaker 5: gender and all of that, right, that you limit yourself.
Speaker 5: The way to actually connect and the way to actually
Speaker 5: win is to talk to networks. And if you turn
Speaker 5: around and look at who Trump talked to on all
Speaker 5: of those podcasts, right, Joe Rogan whole different world of
Speaker 5: people from the left, right and center who listen to
Speaker 5: that right, the Theo Vonne scenario, which was all about
Speaker 5: comedy again, golf channels. He even did an interview with
Speaker 5: the WWE Hall of Famer The Undertaker. So rather than saying, well,
Speaker 5: I'm an eighteen to twenty four year old male, I'm
Speaker 5: a wrestling fan and that's how they interacted, and that's
Speaker 5: how they saw because, of course all of the polite
Speaker 5: people with their fine little suits in the little well,
Speaker 5: they of course were off playing a completely different game
Speaker 5: in terms of the racial parts of this.
Speaker 1: All right, Trump won the white.
Speaker 5: Vote fifty five to forty three, but he got fifteen
Speaker 5: percent of the African American vote, highest he's ever gone,
Speaker 5: forty one percent of the Latino vote.
Speaker 1: Well, hang on, isn't this the racist guy who hates
Speaker 1: all Mexican?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: What about in terms of education? Oh, you only uneducated people, garbage.
Speaker 5: People who went to school voted for him, high school
Speaker 5: or less. People who even went to college. Believe it
Speaker 5: or not, they voted for him to fifty two percent
Speaker 5: to forty six. Oh, you won't hear that in any
Speaker 5: of the other analysis. Surprise, surprise, the people who didn't
Speaker 5: just go to university but then had further qualifications after university.
Speaker 1: Oh, they all loved Harris. But guess what, that's not
Speaker 1: most of the three hundred million people who live in
Speaker 1: this country.
Speaker 5: Also pay attention here who voted when it came to money,
Speaker 5: people under twenty five thousand dollars. Harris won those by
Speaker 5: three points but between twenty five thousand and fifty thousand dollars,
Speaker 5: fifty thousand and seventy five, seventy five and one hundred
Speaker 5: thousand dollars, Trump won them fifty one, fifty two fifty
Speaker 5: two percent.
Speaker 1: And people who went over one hundred thousand dollars, well,
Speaker 1: they of course voted for Kamala Harris.
Speaker 5: Oh and just finally remember the crazy cat lady thing
Speaker 5: that was going to kill them. They even worked out
Speaker 5: today where that cat owners vote went, and that today,
Speaker 5: if you're a bloke who owned a cat, you voted
Speaker 5: for Trump. If you're a woman who voted who has
Speaker 5: a cat, you voted for Harris. But forty six percent
Speaker 5: of them voted for Trump overall cat lovers, forty nine
Speaker 5: forty nine. Harris showed herself and her true character, which
Speaker 5: was that at one point she was applying for the
Speaker 5: job to be the leader of the free world, but
Speaker 5: she didn't have the guts to look the people who
Speaker 5: loved her the most in the eye. Oh, it was
Speaker 5: all going to be such a wonderful, majestic setting because
Speaker 5: they thought they were going to win. But just as
Speaker 5: I told you, both sides thought they were going to win,
Speaker 5: and yes, there's going to be heartbreak, but can you
Speaker 5: believe that she didn't even turn up.
Speaker 1: To talk to her people today.
Speaker 5: She'll do it in some press conference somewhere where she
Speaker 5: can sort of technically conceived and.
Speaker 1: Slide out the back door.
Speaker 5: But surprise, surprise, the people of the United States rejected
Speaker 5: Kamala Harris as the next president of the United States
Speaker 5: because she's fake. And there was an example of it
Speaker 5: today when she was pretending to use a telephone to
Speaker 5: talk to a voter. But then it was exposed that
Speaker 5: when you actually saw what was on her phone, it
Speaker 5: wasn't a phone call.
Speaker 1: The camera app was open.
Speaker 11: How are you telling you? Have you voted already?
Speaker 1: You did? Thank you, Thank you so very much.
Speaker 11: You know, it's it's so.
Speaker 12: Important that it doesn't ready participate. And I thank you
Speaker 12: because I'm sure you got a lot.
Speaker 7: Of other tea you could be doing ear than.
Speaker 5: A wonder why she didn't win in between talking on
Speaker 5: the telly. And it's been a genuine personal and professional
Speaker 5: privilege to be able to go through all of this
Speaker 5: journey of many months, many years, and obviously tonight, and
Speaker 5: thank you all the shows and all the people that
Speaker 5: we've been working with today and everyone behind the scenes
Speaker 5: on such a cracking job here or Dallas or back home.
Speaker 5: We had the chance to go down to a party,
Speaker 5: perhaps the only party that was he in Washington, because
Speaker 5: it goes more than ninety percent of them. In fact,
Speaker 5: ninety five percent of them ended up vighting. Democrats went
Speaker 5: to the young Republicans and they were having the time
Speaker 5: of their lives as their man was winning. What do
Speaker 5: you think changed people's minds from four years ago?
Speaker 13: I think he connected with kind of a new party
Speaker 13: for the Republicans. He's gone more for the working party.
Speaker 13: He'd been through so much. I mean, there's never been
Speaker 13: a candidate in history who's gone through two kind of
Speaker 13: made up impeachments, the Russia scandal that was made up
Speaker 13: being two assassination attempts.
Speaker 5: Why do you think that, you know, four years ago
Speaker 5: he swipped away. Four years later the greatest comeback of
Speaker 5: old time.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, he's great on the economy.
Speaker 5: People trust him, you know, and they're like, hey, my
Speaker 5: grocery prices are expensive. Gas Schreiser out, this is the
Speaker 5: guy want back four years ago? Trumps out of business.
Speaker 5: Why is he back four years light up?
Speaker 6: Honestly, I think people had time to actually see what
Speaker 6: it looks like on the other side and what happens
Speaker 6: without him.
Speaker 11: I think it's policies. I think that people are not
Speaker 11: happy with the border being wide open. I think people
Speaker 11: are seeing the inflation is insane and think that we
Speaker 11: should be drilling oil here instead of relying on you know,
Speaker 11: other countries.
Speaker 1: We search our border.
Speaker 11: Yeah, how his apology is for the units are very
Speaker 11: popular right now?
Speaker 1: Great, first four years, we're gonna get him, get him again.
Speaker 4: Past four year has been terrible foreign policies. So I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I'm excited.
Speaker 5: Okayt Wait, what happens when you fight fight fight.
Speaker 6: You fight, fight, fight, and you win, win, win.
Speaker 11: That's how you do it.
Speaker 1: Baby Sall.
Speaker 11: Twenty twenty four, there's four years.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 5: James Morrow has been psaking it all up North Carolina
Speaker 5: where the media was holding on forever to say that
Speaker 5: he'd won, but it was pretty obvious he did. It
Speaker 5: was one of the swing states. And James, with the
Speaker 5: US report, you have remained focused that this was the
Speaker 5: result you believed was always going to be there. You
Speaker 5: and outsiders as well, always going to be here. So
Speaker 5: tell us now that we're sort of in the official
Speaker 5: opinion zone, how are you feeling to.
Speaker 4: Not well, I'm feeling pretty vindicated. I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't want to do a little bit of this,
Speaker 4: but you know you can almost do a little bit
Speaker 4: of that, you know, the Bill Trump dance. It's it's
Speaker 4: been it's been a it's been a long run. And
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what's been a bit of a long
Speaker 4: night here, Paul. But the important point here is that,
Speaker 4: you know, from the start, put aside the politics of
Speaker 4: you know, left and right. In fact, left and right
Speaker 4: don't really mean anything anymore in the same way that
Speaker 4: they used to, because you know, first of all, they
Speaker 4: put into the nomination by an incredibly undemocratic process, the
Speaker 4: party that claims to be the defender of democracy, this
Speaker 4: empty suit Kamala Harris, who then went for four months
Speaker 4: and had absolutely nothing to offer the American people. So
Speaker 4: why people are surprised by the result, you know, it's
Speaker 4: a little flabbergasting, Like, really, you're surprised that this person
Speaker 4: got up and she had like Beyonce concerts, but no
Speaker 4: policies to you know, bring your gas prices down and
Speaker 4: bring your power prizes down.
Speaker 1: You know, and people were surprised she lost. Come on,
Speaker 1: I mean, let's.
Speaker 4: Say that first second, well, let's just talk about those
Speaker 4: exit poll numbers that you talked about. I mean, this
Speaker 4: is the comprehensive realignment of left right Left right don't
Speaker 4: mean anything the way they used to, because you know,
Speaker 4: now the Republican Party is now solidly the party of
Speaker 4: the aspirational middle of all classes and all races. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, it's not just the income that you talk about,
Speaker 4: not just the male and female, but you look at
Speaker 4: some of the other figures. You know, yeah, as you do,
Speaker 4: black Latino voters came out for Donald Trump, but you know,
Speaker 4: you also saw people like the Musslim American mayor of Hamtrack, Michigan,
Speaker 4: endorsing Donald Trump. People of all races realized that the
Speaker 4: Democrat Party, you know, what they have to offer is
Speaker 4: you know, unless you're at the very top end or
Speaker 4: the very bottom end of the spectrum, it's very bad
Speaker 4: for you because you're dealing with high immigration, high crime,
Speaker 4: woke politics in your schools and there's not a lot
Speaker 4: in it for you there. Whereas the Republicans, you know,
Speaker 4: they're the party of aspiration there, the party of you know,
Speaker 4: getting out of your way, letting you do your thing
Speaker 4: and making it the best, being the best you can.
Speaker 4: There's a slogan that you see on a lot of
Speaker 4: the Trump signs, and I think he should have leaned
Speaker 4: into it harder, and that was dream Big Again. And
Speaker 4: I think that that captures that kind of aspirational idea
Speaker 4: of the Trump campaign. But I think that's you know
Speaker 4: what a lot of people in America are kind of
Speaker 4: feeling like the country has been constrained, you know, intellectually
Speaker 4: and in all sorts of ways by this you know,
Speaker 4: overlay of this kind of elite that don't really want
Speaker 4: people to succeed. They've got theirs and they're happy for
Speaker 4: everybody else to sit tired and do their thing. And
Speaker 4: I think that, you know this, there's a great unleashing
Speaker 4: of the American potential that we see. And we see
Speaker 4: this with you know, the elevation of Elon Musk and
Speaker 4: people like that who are transforming the country and releasing
Speaker 4: all sorts of new energy. And I think that that's
Speaker 4: really I think that's really important. I think it's a
Speaker 4: big message coming out of this, out of this volte.
Speaker 5: Now, obviously, you know, the media is supposed to be
Speaker 5: the representatives of the people who look at the powerful
Speaker 5: and hold the powerful to account.
Speaker 1: They're supposed to be skeptical, they're supposed to to get
Speaker 1: up in their crawl.
Speaker 5: And for about you know, two weeks, we saw that
Speaker 5: when they had to recognize what had happened with Biden,
Speaker 5: but then of course straight back to form and they
Speaker 5: were trying to pretend that Harris was you know, Obama
Speaker 5: in a pantsuit. And yes, they will inevitably the certain
Speaker 5: parts of it, the establishment media, right, let's not call
Speaker 5: them the mainstream of the establishment radio.
Speaker 1: They're the acts media.
Speaker 5: Right, and they'll all go back into their corners and
Speaker 5: they won't learn any lessons of it. But I just
Speaker 5: want to show you a particularly fun moment Jake Tapper
Speaker 5: CNN when they were looking at the map and he's
Speaker 5: trying to find the silver lining on this very very
Speaker 5: dark cloud for them, And this was it John King
Speaker 5: walking the magic board and they're trying to find.
Speaker 1: The places where she did better than.
Speaker 5: Biden in twenty twenty. Behold a very sweet moment in TV.
Speaker 14: Are there any places that the vice president is overperforming
Speaker 14: Joe Biden in twenty twenty so we can show you
Speaker 14: that as well. We just bring that out here. Harris
Speaker 14: overperforming twenty twenty. Holy smokes, there you go. So let
Speaker 14: this go away and see if there's anything in the
Speaker 14: East Side. There literally nothing, literally nothing, literally not one
Speaker 14: county by three percent or more.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, James, give me thirty give me thirty hot
Speaker 5: ones on that year thirty seconds.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean this is the thing. You know, the
Speaker 4: media covered for Joe Biden, they covered for Calm Harris,
Speaker 4: they you know, and they never learned from their mistakes.
Speaker 4: You know, as you say, for two weeks there was
Speaker 4: a little bit of time, but they said, oh, hey,
Speaker 4: Joe Biden's not with it, you know, after people like
Speaker 4: you and me had been saying this four years and
Speaker 4: say hey, guys, he's not with it. And they said,
Speaker 4: oh no, no, no, that's a cheap fake. You're fake news.
Speaker 4: You're a cheap fake. Remember that after you know, at
Speaker 4: the G seven and he's sort of wandering off when
Speaker 4: the guys were coming down to the parachutes, and they
Speaker 4: was like, oh no, that's wrong, You've got it wrong.
Speaker 4: And then like two weeks later he's out of the race.
Speaker 4: Come on, this is what happens. And this is why
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris underperformed. And they didn't expect that she was
Speaker 4: gonna underperform because they thought everything was fine. They literally
Speaker 4: looked at Kamala Harrison, Hey, she's fantastic. She's got Beyonce.
Speaker 4: How good is she?
Speaker 1: And that was like literally all.
Speaker 4: There was to it, And they thought people aren't buying it.
Speaker 4: They don't understand fundamentally why so, yeah, that's that, good man.
Speaker 1: Congrats on all of you a coverage.
Speaker 5: Look forward to saying more of it in the US
Speaker 5: Report and during daytime no time an old Times Gouy News.
Speaker 5: Thank you, mate, We love you all the best to
Speaker 5: you and your team. You've done great work. James Morrow
Speaker 5: there in North Carolina. More Rozsi perspectives on an incredible
Speaker 5: day in history.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is back as the leader of the free world.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think you can smile about it. I
Speaker 1: want to say more.
Speaker 5: Rossi perspectives on Trump winning the American election.
Speaker 1: The Great Joe Hockey joins us in a moment of
Speaker 1: two time.
Speaker 5: He of course knows him both before the presidency, after
Speaker 5: the presidency and as the Australian ambassador. He's one of
Speaker 5: the sharpest blokes in the country to talk about it.
Speaker 5: And thankfully he's up nice and early or late at
Speaker 5: night in Australia at the time. You get the point,
Speaker 5: we're living multiple time zones all at once. Doing so
Speaker 5: with us is jo Hildebrand. Of course, you can read
Speaker 5: him all over the place, hear him all over the place,
Speaker 5: and the wonderful problem of bishop as well. Let's continue
Speaker 5: chatting about what's happened here, Joe Gee, surprise, surprise.
Speaker 1: The candidate who was really fake.
Speaker 5: Who wouldn't answer any questions, whose policies were vague at best,
Speaker 5: didn't win.
Speaker 15: Yeah, Kamala Harris is probably the worst political candidate I
Speaker 15: have ever seen in my entire life. She is almost
Speaker 15: almost overtly vacuous. She clearly understands absolutely nothing that she's saying.
Speaker 15: She clearly believes in nothing. She's a bit like a
Speaker 15: ring ray from the Lord of the Rings. She's just
Speaker 15: a soulless human being. That is why she didn't connect.
Speaker 15: That is why for weeks I've been saying, and I
Speaker 15: know I certainly haven't been alone, that she was the
Speaker 15: worst possible replacement for Joe Biden. It speaks volumes to
Speaker 15: the incompetence and the cowardice of the Democratic Party machine
Speaker 15: that they didn't tap Joe Biden in a fashion that
Speaker 15: could have allowed a real contender to come up and
Speaker 15: have a decent primary where the candidate could actually have
Speaker 15: been blooded. Instead, you had someone who did so appallingly
Speaker 15: in the first and only primary she contested four years
Speaker 15: ago that she had to pull out without a single
Speaker 15: delegate after the very first debate, an abysmal debate performance.
Speaker 15: And then she gets handed the vice presidency on a
Speaker 15: platter for absolutely no reason other than identity politics. Joe
Speaker 15: Biden said, well, I'll get a black woman, and so
Speaker 15: he did. If that's not the most outrageously insulting and
Speaker 15: disgusting thing that any black woman or any human being
Speaker 15: could hear or imagine, I don't know what is I mean?
Speaker 15: Talk about condescending, talk about literally skin deep politics. And
Speaker 15: then she gets literally handed virtually the presidency on a
Speaker 15: platter again without having to contest a primary, even and
Speaker 15: it is given to her. She has given hundreds of
Speaker 15: millions of dollars the entire campaign infrastructure, and all she
Speaker 15: has to do is just not up. And yet still
Speaker 15: she manages to just drop the whole lot in a
Speaker 15: giant steaming mess at her feet, and has handed Donald
Speaker 15: Trump an even greater victory than he got in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 15: And this is eight years after they knew Jnald Trump
Speaker 15: had won, they knew had come from behind, he won
Speaker 15: a higher number of votes in twenty twenty, and yet
Speaker 15: they still somehow managed to completely screw it up and
Speaker 15: give him the greatest possible electoral victory. Anyone could imagine
Speaker 15: both Houses of Congress, the popular vote, and the entire
Speaker 15: sweep of swing states. This is incompetence on an industrial scale,
Speaker 15: universal level. Everyone in the Democratic Party should be sacked
Speaker 15: and they should start from scratch.
Speaker 5: All right, Well, I look forward to just replaying the
Speaker 5: same one, but maybe changing some words and making it
Speaker 5: a far more local conversation.
Speaker 1: Perhaps in and around the next federal election.
Speaker 5: But we'll see what happens again, Bromwin, I understand that
Speaker 5: there's much to say, many details, but there is a
Speaker 5: sense here that yet again, surprise surprise, the person who
Speaker 5: wins is the more decisive, surprise surprise, is the one
Speaker 5: with an actual clear plan. And also, let's get back
Speaker 5: into that concept of what the word fight means.
Speaker 1: You know, fight by the left.
Speaker 5: Is defined as you're literally confrontational, and January the sixth
Speaker 5: perfect example of it.
Speaker 1: A disgraceful moment in history.
Speaker 5: But as I said, when you see a guy's been
Speaker 5: shot at and says fight, fight, fight, and then he
Speaker 5: says I'm going to fight, fight, fight for you, I
Speaker 5: hear strength.
Speaker 12: Paul I said last night on air that Trump would
Speaker 12: win and that it wouldn't take forever to find out either.
Speaker 12: I believed he would win all along. And I believe
Speaker 12: that women have been put back enormously because she was
Speaker 12: clearly an affirmative action DEI pick without the ability to
Speaker 12: do the job, and that makes it so much harder
Speaker 12: for other women who are coming through. But there's a
Speaker 12: much more important thing I think that's happened with this result.
Speaker 12: And I'm old enough to remember when Ronald Reagan was elected,
Speaker 12: and for years we'd all been beaten around the head,
Speaker 12: being told that the United States had to unilaterally disarm
Speaker 12: itself with nuclear weapons, right, just the United States, and
Speaker 12: then the world would be a safer place, which of
Speaker 12: course was absolute rubbish, just like we're all now being
Speaker 12: beaten about the head with climate change, which is really
Speaker 12: designed to shift the wealth from the north to the south.
Speaker 12: So what happened when Reagan came in he developed peace
Speaker 12: through strength. Strength was what it was all about. In
Speaker 12: the lead up to his election, they used to say
Speaker 12: he dropped the atomic bomb and he was a lunatic.
Speaker 1: He was this, he was that.
Speaker 12: He was hugely successful and the world was a safer
Speaker 12: place because his policies were good and the economy was good.
Speaker 12: So what I see now is the ability for the
Speaker 12: world to roll back the nonsense about wokery. He said
Speaker 12: there'll be no men playing in women's sports. He said
Speaker 12: that there'll be no surgeries in jails, and there'll be again,
Speaker 12: parents will be consulted. There were so many issues that
Speaker 12: have been allowed to creep into our education system, which
Speaker 12: is scaring the living daylights out of kids and not
Speaker 12: making them want to achieve and love their country. And
Speaker 12: he will make love of your country something that people
Speaker 12: were able to hold their heads up for again. So
Speaker 12: there was so much riding on this election, and I
Speaker 12: think that we will see start to see some common
Speaker 12: sense come back. You might even see big firms giving
Speaker 12: up esg that they'll start to really look at the
Speaker 12: proper bottom line again and run companies the proper way
Speaker 12: to make a profit for their shareholders, to produce goods
Speaker 12: that are good for people, not to use subterfuse to
Speaker 12: pretend that prices are right. This is a big opportunity
Speaker 12: which I think will flow into Australia, and I think
Speaker 12: Albanezi should be quaky in his boots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff. Good to hear from both of you.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 5: I know you've been watching Telly, so that's why I
Speaker 5: let you both go for a while, because you've both
Speaker 5: bet I can see it's been building all day.
Speaker 1: We've had our big.
Speaker 5: Bursts, all right, So let's do a sped round of
Speaker 5: answers now if we can. Guys, by the way, it's
Speaker 5: not really the breaking news because the sky already was there.
Speaker 1: Hours ago.
Speaker 5: At five thirty five in the morning, NBC and CNN
Speaker 5: have finally.
Speaker 1: Declared to be the next president of the United States.
Speaker 5: So desperate were they that their audience was so exhausted
Speaker 5: by the spin that they would have eventually been dragged
Speaker 5: to bed or fallen asleep in the Jason recliner that
Speaker 5: they just whispered into the microphone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've known it for a while, but the Orange
Speaker 1: Man won.
Speaker 5: Okay, often six hours of infomercials. That's where they'll be
Speaker 5: for the next little while. Anyway, hopefully if our team
Speaker 5: can turn those things around as we can, just you know,
Speaker 5: a report on the moment, not a dead enjoy their situation.
Speaker 1: Oh I look forward to that. All right.
Speaker 5: Now, let's get to some of the consequences of this
Speaker 5: Joe climate change, the Paris Accord, which he tore up
Speaker 5: when he was first president, he will do so again.
Speaker 1: That, of course, will.
Speaker 5: Give a much greater cover to people like Peter Dutton
Speaker 5: who don't want to talk about twenty thirty, don't want
Speaker 5: to talk about twenty thirty five instead of the focus
Speaker 5: at best is going to be into twenty fifty. Now again,
Speaker 5: American politics is not automatically Australian politics.
Speaker 1: But let's be really clear here.
Speaker 5: The biggest polluter in the world is China, all right,
Speaker 5: the developing nation that is setting up a base on
Speaker 5: the Moon. All right, a developing country would be chat right,
Speaker 5: like China has got an international space station and held
Speaker 5: the Olympics twice this century. Okay, let's not pretend that
Speaker 5: they are what they are. Okay, Now, they're the world's
Speaker 5: biggest polluter. Thirty times more than something like Australia would do.
Speaker 5: We now have, of course, the global South, which is
Speaker 5: the wanky word of saying developing countries, which is places
Speaker 5: like India, Russia. Well again, okay, we're now over half
Speaker 5: of the polluters that don't have to apply to the
Speaker 5: same rules. Okay, the United States is now going to
Speaker 5: step out of that process. And before anyone turns around
Speaker 5: and says that people didn't know this, New York Times
Speaker 5: ask people about climate change is number one issue.
Speaker 1: It was fewer than two percent of people.
Speaker 5: So let's talk about climate change, climate change policy, because
Speaker 5: again it's not like they didn't know what they were
Speaker 5: voting for.
Speaker 15: Yeah, absolutely right. Look, the first thing is that you cannot,
Speaker 15: no matter your position on climate change, is absolutely unconscionable
Speaker 15: for rich people to tell poor people that they have
Speaker 15: to sacrifice their jobs and their livelihoods in order to
Speaker 15: achieve a target which is often quite theoretical and comes,
Speaker 15: you know, beyond most people's kind of immediately immediate frame
Speaker 15: of concern. So that's the first thing. The second thing, though,
Speaker 15: I think climate change, like any other issue that is
Speaker 15: not bread and butter in the here and now, when
Speaker 15: people who are struggling to keep their home, struggling to
Speaker 15: keep their jobs, worried about where their next paychecks coming from,
Speaker 15: how they're going to pay that next energy bill. It
Speaker 15: doesn't matter what the complexity is of those or whether
Speaker 15: China or Charter getting the stuff. When they hear politicians
Speaker 15: talking about that, they say, you do not understand me.
Speaker 15: You do not get me. You do not understand what
Speaker 15: I'm going through. And it doesn't matter if it's climate
Speaker 15: change or it's the voice or if it's some sort
Speaker 15: of boutique identity politics issue that left is into. As
Speaker 15: soon as people hear that, they think, right, you don't
Speaker 15: get me, I'm voting for the other guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, now, Bromin also, look again, let's also be ad
Speaker 5: about this. Elections are a decision on a particular day
Speaker 5: in a particular year. Right, They're not permanent revolutions, and
Speaker 5: they're not you know.
Speaker 1: It's going to be like this forever.
Speaker 5: But let's talk about this day in history and the
Speaker 5: demographics that comes out of the greatest democracy.
Speaker 1: In the world.
Speaker 5: It seems that to many Americans, they were willing to
Speaker 5: go past the definitions of race, gender, all the rest
Speaker 5: of it. Instead, the economic circumstances certainly comes to the
Speaker 5: fore in Western politics. Is this the way that elections
Speaker 5: will be fought one and a law over the next
Speaker 5: few years.
Speaker 12: Yes, Yes, indeed, because I think that people, particularly young people.
Speaker 12: I found the young very interesting in the Trump figures
Speaker 12: because they are seeing what's being done to their future.
Speaker 12: They don't see there is a future. It has to change,
Speaker 12: It can't go on like this. So I think that
Speaker 12: collectively there's been That's why I say this is a
Speaker 12: most important switch for the rest of the Western world,
Speaker 12: because it is the beginning of rolling back of what
Speaker 12: we've been subjugated to, which has been destroying our countries.
Speaker 12: And I really do think that that's probably them for
Speaker 12: Australia and for the rest of the UK other countries.
Speaker 12: I think that's going to be a real takeout, and
Speaker 12: it'll start with pulling out of the Paris Agreement.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, all of it will be interesting to see,
Speaker 5: and now obviously in the Australian perspective, it'll be conversations
Speaker 5: about potential tariff's, ucas all the rest of it.
Speaker 1: Look, I think it's fair to say.
Speaker 5: And I am no geopolitical expert, but I'm pretty sure
Speaker 5: the way Donald Trump works is massive, ambered claim that
Speaker 5: pushes you all the way back to your try line.
Speaker 1: And then if you can.
Speaker 5: Push twenty five meters back, you win a little. He
Speaker 5: wins a lot, okay. And in terms of those that
Speaker 5: are worrying about UCAS, okay, pretty sure the focus of
Speaker 5: this administration will be taken on China. Aucus is all
Speaker 5: part of that. Troop deployment is all part of that,
Speaker 5: all right. So if you're worried about whether they're going
Speaker 5: to keep building things in Adelaide, they will pretty certain
Speaker 5: of it. Thank you, guys, do appreciate it. Joe Hockey
Speaker 5: straight up for the break. I can't wait to have
Speaker 5: a chat to this man. He knows him personally, he
Speaker 5: knows him professionally, and he knew this was coming for
Speaker 5: a very long time.
Speaker 1: We're in a second from Washington for my re live.
Speaker 5: I have been on this rooftop in Washington a couple
Speaker 5: of times, and when Joe Hockey joins me, I know
Speaker 5: we're here for a very good ree, and particularly tonight,
Speaker 5: because Donald Trump has one great man. Of course, the
Speaker 5: boss of Bondeau partners this election again and inevitably someone's
Speaker 5: going to see me an email and saying, oh.
Speaker 1: Two days ago you said the poll was fifty to fifty.
Speaker 5: The reality is the electric college is what ends up
Speaker 5: electing people. But how you win a state is a
Speaker 5: margin of this much or immediate, It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about the decisiveness of the result.
Speaker 5: I think one of the best things for America, for divided,
Speaker 5: hurt difficult America was it was clear as day and
Speaker 5: he's won by a mile.
Speaker 3: Well, it's beyond doubt now, and there have been some
Speaker 3: really interesting outcomes based on credible exit pole data. Trump
Speaker 3: did much better with Latino's, much better with Asians, much
Speaker 3: better with women, much better with people under thirty years
Speaker 3: of age. And this is all contrary to all these
Speaker 3: polsters and experts around the place. Even on an issue
Speaker 3: as important as abortion, five states voted Republican and they
Speaker 3: voted pro choice.
Speaker 1: At the same time.
Speaker 3: So people were separating the very sensitive issue of abortion
Speaker 3: from their vote. And it comes back to the fact
Speaker 3: that it is a fact. Donald Trump campaigned on policy
Speaker 3: issues like costs of living, immigration, getting out of wars,
Speaker 3: making sure that there were lower taxes, less regulation, greater freedom,
Speaker 3: and Kamala Harris campaigned on I'm not Donald Trump, and
Speaker 3: she failed.
Speaker 5: And it seems like again the you know, there's there's
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of political science and scientists and gender.
Speaker 1: People who go this issue and that issue.
Speaker 5: But in the end, she reflected the bubble that was
Speaker 5: around her, right, bubble of you know, New York Times,
Speaker 5: MSNBC and the parts of Twitter they still like.
Speaker 1: But of course the country's bigger and wider than that.
Speaker 5: And even over the period of time of eight years,
Speaker 5: the information sources are different, and the information coming back
Speaker 5: to them is obvious. So when they turn around and say, well,
Speaker 5: but this job's reported, this economy and you know, this
Speaker 5: is a form of treasurer right.
Speaker 1: You can't just stand there and say we're.
Speaker 5: Going great because of this green when you're paying thirty
Speaker 5: for eggs and bread.
Speaker 3: Well, you can't tell people they're feeling good if they're
Speaker 3: not feeling good, correct, and especially from Washington, DC giving
Speaker 3: them a lecture about how good they should feel about life.
Speaker 3: What was also stunning tonight, Paul, was there was a
Speaker 3: huge swing to Trump in New York City, in New Jersey,
Speaker 3: in Chicago, in working class America, parts of working class America.
Speaker 9: But also in the big cities and it was universal.
Speaker 3: This is what's surprised so many analysts in the last
Speaker 3: few hours is that it's across the board, rural and
Speaker 3: regional and in the big cities that Trump has picked
Speaker 3: up more votes and he will exceed his vote in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty. So we have now found the Trump Democrats. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: the Trump Democrats have now emerged. And it's driving the
Speaker 3: Democrats into a position where they need to seriously reflect.
Speaker 9: On what they believe in.
Speaker 3: And it can't be just we're opposed to Trump, because
Speaker 3: this is the end. This is the end of Trump's
Speaker 3: reelection and that's it.
Speaker 1: It's done. And this is what I'm fascinating one about effectively.
Speaker 5: Look, I mean, we all know because that building is
Speaker 5: up for grabs every two years.
Speaker 1: How a presidency.
Speaker 5: Basically in the four years is defined as the first
Speaker 5: two and then in the case of a president who
Speaker 5: will be a contest to who replaces him, the back
Speaker 5: two is different. Right, But these first two to have
Speaker 5: the Senate, to have the House, to.
Speaker 3: Have I don't know if she's got the House yet.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't go so far as to call the House
Speaker 3: because it's so marginal and I'm waiting to see if
Speaker 3: the Republicans lose those crucial Republican seats in California. Yes,
Speaker 3: so that's but I think you're absolutely right. The Senate's
Speaker 3: a much better result for the Republicans they expected, and
Speaker 3: of course the presidency.
Speaker 1: Is as well well.
Speaker 5: So can I just say this, and can I be
Speaker 5: the first person to say it on global media? And
Speaker 5: I'm sorry that you're going to be in the frame
Speaker 5: when I say this. It means if the Democrats end
Speaker 5: up in control of the House and try to impeach
Speaker 5: him for anything, the majority that they have in the
Speaker 5: Senate means he will not be convicted. So let's save ourselves. Yeah,
Speaker 5: whatever the hell that might be.
Speaker 3: And you know what's interesting is in twenty twenty, after
Speaker 3: he was impeached twice, there were no ads run by
Speaker 3: the Democrats about the impeachment. Yes, this time around, there
Speaker 3: were hardly any ads about all these convictions of Donald
Speaker 3: Trump as a fellon and so on, because the American
Speaker 3: people are just not interested in it. They're more interested
Speaker 3: in what affects them and their families, whether they can
Speaker 3: get jobs, whether they can pay for the eggs or
Speaker 3: the milk.
Speaker 9: They're interested in fuel prices.
Speaker 3: They're interested in whether their children are going to go
Speaker 3: and fight in another war. They're interested in whether they're
Speaker 3: going to have people come across the border and lose
Speaker 3: control of their own communities. These are the things that
Speaker 3: have made the decision tonight. And I saw some of
Speaker 3: the media in Australia that's so sanctimonious as to suggest
Speaker 3: that democracy ended tonight. I mean, oh my god, this
Speaker 3: is democracy, correct. This is where the people have spoken
Speaker 3: out against elite opinion.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 9: And actually that.
Speaker 3: Is what democracy looks like, where people speak in volumes
Speaker 3: and in the majority against what elite opinion is.
Speaker 5: But the same democracy that hired him, fired him has
Speaker 5: recorrect exactly right, a midterm judgment.
Speaker 1: And then of course in four years time.
Speaker 5: He leaves, but again talking about next Grand Final when
Speaker 5: this one is still echoing in the States. So Trump
Speaker 5: the negotiator and also Trump now as somebody who's not
Speaker 5: got this eye on re election. All right, He'll have
Speaker 5: a team around him that have been assisted by laws
Speaker 5: like the change to Chevron deference, which means they can
Speaker 5: really go after the expansive power of government where basically
Speaker 5: the government department can make a rule and pretend it
Speaker 5: to law and enforce it. In the same way, he
Speaker 5: also comes with an aggressive want to cut things out
Speaker 5: of the federal budget. Do you think that the first
Speaker 5: period of that governing. We know he's going to do
Speaker 5: things about the southern border. We know he's going to
Speaker 5: try to do things when it comes to international trade.
Speaker 5: But he has a very clear mandate to come very
Speaker 5: creak some stuff right absolutely.
Speaker 3: And it's interesting because some of the people he has
Speaker 3: around him, like Elon Musk or Robert Kennedy, they're eccentric.
Speaker 9: There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 3: They won't be able to occupy official positions like secretarius
Speaker 3: Aid or Secretary of Treasury or whatever, because they still
Speaker 3: might not get through the Senate confirmation.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't imagine.
Speaker 3: But he will give them absolute authority to go around
Speaker 3: and break some shells. And that's what Americans have just
Speaker 3: voted for. They have voted for Donald Trump to be
Speaker 3: a disruptor, to change the system. You know what Australians
Speaker 3: do understand because they travel to the US, is when
Speaker 3: you go into San Francisco and you see the despair
Speaker 3: on the streets.
Speaker 9: Or downtown Los Angeles or.
Speaker 3: Even New York wherever it is we see that, and
Speaker 3: then yet some people are surprised that they've voted for
Speaker 3: Donald Trump, or the Americans have voted for Donald Trump.
Speaker 9: To stop that, or at least to take it on.
Speaker 1: Well, but this is the thing.
Speaker 5: I mean, literally, we're in Dallas, beautiful, wonderful, amazing city,
Speaker 5: and we're watching people in a food line, right like
Speaker 5: if it was a black and white photo from the
Speaker 5: nineteen thirties, you would think that they just were wearing
Speaker 5: future clothing.
Speaker 1: That's the level of desperation. So just before we're done.
Speaker 3: And Dallas does vote Democrat, yes, correct, I mean Hillary
Speaker 3: won the thirty largest cities in America, but Donald Trump
Speaker 3: won the election. It's because people don't want their town
Speaker 3: to end up like the big cities. Well now the
Speaker 3: big cities are saying we've had enough as well.
Speaker 1: We want to be like this all exactly. All right.
Speaker 5: So in terms of the Australian connection, I've spoken that
Speaker 5: I think aucust remains unchanged.
Speaker 1: I think that that's going to be clear.
Speaker 5: I think the tariff conversation is really code for China,
Speaker 5: all right. I'm not imagining there's going to be an
Speaker 5: Australian scenario that said free advice. How does this government
Speaker 5: which has a Prime minister which has said while he
Speaker 5: was president what his feelings were, and there will be
Speaker 5: people that will bring that up to Donald Trump, no doubt.
Speaker 5: But how does Australia deal with team read everywhere?
Speaker 3: Well, the starting point is don't be a public critic,
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, good. I always found that could be
Speaker 3: a private credit and publicly you don't have to support
Speaker 3: you just don't become a don't join the conger line
Speaker 3: of critics. And that's a good starting point. The second
Speaker 3: point is I'm glad that Prime Minister Albanezi has reached
Speaker 3: out already to congratulate Trump. I think, you know, and
Speaker 3: I saw Kevin Rudd tonight. I think it's important that
Speaker 3: they build on the relationships. And look, Donald Trump will
Speaker 3: test us, there is no doubt about that, because he
Speaker 3: tests everyone. The question is how we react. Do we
Speaker 3: react in a measured fashion and work out a solution,
Speaker 3: or do we simply, you know, respond like half the
Speaker 3: idiots in the world and just try and criticize him
Speaker 3: and make life hard for it.
Speaker 5: Correct, don't comment, participate, Joe, thank you love all of
Speaker 5: these Bondo partners. Of course, a very good way to
Speaker 5: stay in touch with what might be happening here in
Speaker 5: the United States.
Speaker 1: We're done. We'll see you again from Washington. Trump one
Speaker 1: he fought, e won