WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 6 November

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<v Speaker 1>From the United States. This is Paul Murray Live get

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<v Speaker 1>I Australia. Good morning from Washington. Hey, have you heard.

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<v Speaker 2>The news in Alaska? What does that mean? The race

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<v Speaker 2>to two seventy, Well, that is now over. Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>wins the state of Alaska and as a result, Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is once again going to be the President of

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<v Speaker 2>the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>The Fox News Decision desk can now officially project that

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump will become the forty seventh president of the

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<v Speaker 3>United States.

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<v Speaker 4>The foreign presidents come back will be complete with a

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<v Speaker 4>win in Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>How extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 5>It is the greatest comeback in modern political history. To

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<v Speaker 5>find an example of it, you don't have one this century.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't have one last century. You got to go

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<v Speaker 5>back to the century before that when they had the

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<v Speaker 5>eighteen in front of the years that were being counted down.

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<v Speaker 5>Now there are many images, many stories, many things to

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<v Speaker 5>tell you about, many things that you've watched happen all

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<v Speaker 5>the way through the day. And I've done my best

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<v Speaker 5>to play that straight news bat because, as I said,

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<v Speaker 5>all day long, you don't want to rub people's face

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<v Speaker 5>in it. That's not cool, it's not okay. You've got

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<v Speaker 5>to be a good win because you've got to be

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<v Speaker 5>paying attention to the people who are feeling the loss.

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<v Speaker 5>But we're got to soak the moment in as well.

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<v Speaker 5>This is an incredible moment in history. It is an

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<v Speaker 5>incredible victory for people who had been ignored, who had

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<v Speaker 5>been called garbage, who had been told that their views

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<v Speaker 5>were not in polite society any further, and they roared.

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<v Speaker 5>And these were the same people who four years ago

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<v Speaker 5>sacked Donald Trump, the same people in the same swing

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<v Speaker 5>states who have now rehired Donald Trump. And in an

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<v Speaker 5>evening of extraordinary images, a campaign of images, when I

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<v Speaker 5>think we all felt exactly the same thing July fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 5>Australian Time that when the bloke got shot, his reaction

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<v Speaker 5>was not to crumble, but was to fight, fight, fight,

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<v Speaker 5>And his call all the way through the campaign was fight, fight, fight, vote, vote, vote,

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<v Speaker 5>And now he gets to say win, win, win. You

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<v Speaker 5>need to have a look at this photo because this

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<v Speaker 5>is going to be one for the history books. This

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<v Speaker 5>is a photo of the exact moment Donald Trump returned

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<v Speaker 5>to the presidency. He's backstage waiting to go on stage

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<v Speaker 5>at his supporters in Florida. His son took the photo

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<v Speaker 5>as he's watching on to the numbers being counted and

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<v Speaker 5>then the result being declared. To have that image before us,

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<v Speaker 5>to have an insight into the most personal of moments,

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<v Speaker 5>is a perfect example about in many ways, the open

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<v Speaker 5>book that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump and is his candidacy time.

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<v Speaker 5>It can be ugly to read at times, it can

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<v Speaker 5>be difficult to read at times, it doesn't make a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of sense, but it's always an open book. And

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<v Speaker 5>the idea that this was not some sort of filtered

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<v Speaker 5>special image that was curated by a campaign. It was

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<v Speaker 5>a son who took a photo of his father, his

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<v Speaker 5>father fighting back to the place where he will now

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<v Speaker 5>lead the free world.

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<v Speaker 1>I find it unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 5>And as we were sitting back watching all of it happen,

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<v Speaker 5>the inevitability coming minute after minute, state after state, hour

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<v Speaker 5>after hour in lefty land where they thought there was

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<v Speaker 5>no chance, where this was the basket of deplorables, when

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<v Speaker 5>this was the people who had been run out of town,

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<v Speaker 5>to see them coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>Not quite coping.

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<v Speaker 6>I think what it's all said and done, what you're

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<v Speaker 6>going to see is a huge divide over people who

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<v Speaker 6>are college educated and not college educated. Black voters came

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<v Speaker 6>through for Kamala Harris. White women voters did not pure

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<v Speaker 6>Project twenty twenty five in miniature in Florida and that

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<v Speaker 6>kind of extreme, sort of extremist, right wing fascist type

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<v Speaker 6>government in Florida, Does that make it a more attractive place?

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<v Speaker 7>Thinking about the people who are not a part of

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<v Speaker 7>anybody's elite, who are hurting tonight. There are African American

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<v Speaker 7>women who know a little bit about being talked down to,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, a little bit about having their economic dreams crushed,

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<v Speaker 7>who tried to dream a big dream over the past

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<v Speaker 7>couple of months, and tonight they're trading in a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of hope for a lot of hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>And that may be true, certainly for African American women.

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<v Speaker 5>The idea that there was on the verge of a

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<v Speaker 5>potential first female presidency and a first female president of color,

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<v Speaker 5>I get it, okay, And what I'm saying is not

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<v Speaker 5>about those people.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reality was is that in many ways, the.

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<v Speaker 5>People who who they turned to for information have lied

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<v Speaker 5>to them, have lied to them about the chances of

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<v Speaker 5>what was happening in this election.

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<v Speaker 1>The New York Times polls that we've talked.

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<v Speaker 5>About day in and day out, when you actually dug

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<v Speaker 5>into the detail. Eighty percent of people had made their

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<v Speaker 5>decision about what they were going to do in the

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<v Speaker 5>American election months ago, so it didn't matter what happened

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<v Speaker 5>with the comedian at Madison Square Garden. It didn't matter

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<v Speaker 5>necessarily whether Trump had a good day on the trail

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<v Speaker 5>or a bad day on the trail. They had made

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<v Speaker 5>their choice, and they had made their choice because the

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<v Speaker 5>government that they hired to replace Donald Trump did not

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<v Speaker 5>deliver for them. They saw a man who, whether many

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<v Speaker 5>people like it or not, was a man who had

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<v Speaker 5>been tested over and over again from court room to

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<v Speaker 5>the media, not even treating his candidacy, one that deserved

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<v Speaker 5>to be listened to about what he was promising. Like

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<v Speaker 5>every day, and I've been diving deep into this for months,

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<v Speaker 5>every day he would make an announcement about, say, no

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<v Speaker 5>tax on Social Security, that you turn on the American

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<v Speaker 5>news or you try to find things in the paper

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<v Speaker 5>about it, no mention, just a silly comment that was

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<v Speaker 5>made by someone somewhere else, Because there's no possible way

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<v Speaker 5>that Donald Trump would be able to have a message

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<v Speaker 5>that anyone would want to hear. But of course they did.

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<v Speaker 5>As for Trump, when he eventually took the stage. I

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<v Speaker 5>think the best part of two o'clock in the morning.

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<v Speaker 5>He took to the stage, and he got rid of

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<v Speaker 5>the teleprompter. He was surrounded by his family, who he

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<v Speaker 5>loves the most, and of course the supporters who built

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<v Speaker 5>a coalition around him that I'm going to talk about

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<v Speaker 5>a bit tonight, because when the left wins, they talk

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<v Speaker 5>about how clever everyone was, and when the right wings win,

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<v Speaker 5>they think that there's some sort of aberration or cheat

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<v Speaker 5>or a mistake that's been made.

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<v Speaker 1>Quite the opposite.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll get to that in a second, but some of

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<v Speaker 5>the stuff that happened in the speech just a little

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<v Speaker 5>longer than you may well hear in other places. He's

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<v Speaker 5>an example of him talking about that coalition, the coalition

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<v Speaker 5>that stretches from say Robert F. Kennedy all the way

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<v Speaker 5>through to the boss of the UFC.

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<v Speaker 8>His campaign has been so historic in so many ways.

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<v Speaker 8>We've built the biggest, the broadest, the most unified coalition.

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<v Speaker 8>They've never seen anything like it in all of American history.

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<v Speaker 9>They've never seen any.

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<v Speaker 8>Young and old men and women, rural and urban, and

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<v Speaker 8>we had them all helping us.

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight, when you think.

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<v Speaker 5>And remember when he was shot and he was going

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<v Speaker 5>to give his speech to the Republican National Convention, it

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<v Speaker 5>was all about you know, has he changed?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah he has, because like every.

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<v Speaker 5>Human being who goes through life, what happens to you

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<v Speaker 5>changes you.

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<v Speaker 1>And think about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Millimeters from dying, the stakes of the election being if

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<v Speaker 5>he lost, he was going to go to prison for

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<v Speaker 5>the rest of his life. The example of him as

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<v Speaker 5>a slightly changed person because of those events was pretty

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<v Speaker 5>obvious in this bit of his speech.

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<v Speaker 8>Too many people have told me that God spared my

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<v Speaker 8>life for a reason, and that reason was to save

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<v Speaker 8>our country and to restore America. To greet this and

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<v Speaker 8>now we are going to fulfill that mission.

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<v Speaker 9>Together, We're going to fulfill that mission.

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<v Speaker 5>And one last thing about his speech, and I've been

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<v Speaker 5>thinking about this for a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>What does the word fight mean? Now?

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously, in its worst possible sense, it's about confrontation. But

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<v Speaker 5>I think in terms of those that have seen Trump coming,

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<v Speaker 5>or have been pro Trump or trump literate even for

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<v Speaker 5>the past eight years, fight means standing up for what

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<v Speaker 5>you believe in, leaning in on what you believe in,

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<v Speaker 5>standing up for your friends, and in the case of

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<v Speaker 5>somebody trying to run for national office. Yeah, putting your

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<v Speaker 5>own country first. Now, that will have its complications. And

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to pretend that the sky is rosy,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's going to be for some a bit of

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<v Speaker 5>a rough ride. But to me, normal people fight every day,

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<v Speaker 5>and they fight everything from getting the kids ready to

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<v Speaker 5>go to school, to fighting the traffic, to fighting their workload,

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<v Speaker 5>to fighting to stave off illness, all sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 5>So when I hear the word fight, I don't hear conflict.

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<v Speaker 10>By his strength, the task before us will not be easy,

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<v Speaker 10>but I will bring every ounce of energy, spirit and

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<v Speaker 10>fighting that I have in my soul to the job

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<v Speaker 10>you've entrusted to me. This is a great job. There's

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<v Speaker 10>no job like this.

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<v Speaker 8>This is the most important job in the world.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, let's have a look in the results and

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit more deeply. First things first, he's going

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<v Speaker 5>to win the popular vote. Now, a Republican has not

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<v Speaker 5>done that for a very long time, especially when you

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<v Speaker 5>think about the populations of New York, California, Medians and

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<v Speaker 5>millions of people. Now, California's vote will come in in

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<v Speaker 5>the next little while, and it'll be a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>closer than what you can see on your screen, but

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<v Speaker 5>at sixty six million versus sixty one midion, that is

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<v Speaker 5>an extraordinary result if you have a look at the

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<v Speaker 5>different types of maps that are around the entire Blue War,

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<v Speaker 5>while he took to that with a sledgehammer. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan.

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<v Speaker 5>We stand by for official confirmation in Arizona and.

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<v Speaker 1>Also in Georgia.

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<v Speaker 5>But let's have a look at again those swing states

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<v Speaker 5>and how they all ended up going. Remember the seven

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<v Speaker 5>that were required Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 5>Wisconsin one.

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<v Speaker 1>Two, three, four, five, six.

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<v Speaker 5>Seven, clean sweep, and put simply in terms of the

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<v Speaker 5>strange feeling that I had sitting here as the numbers

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<v Speaker 5>are all coming in and I'm starting to watch, and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going, oh, well, okay, doesn't something happen in the

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<v Speaker 5>big cities that reverses all of this. As a boxing match,

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<v Speaker 5>he won all twelve rounds and he saves the knockout

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<v Speaker 5>for the twelfth round, and that's going to be very

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<v Speaker 5>frustrating for Democrats and very frustrating for the medium, very

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<v Speaker 5>frustrating for people who thought that this thing was all

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<v Speaker 5>raises edge and all the rest of it. And I

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<v Speaker 5>stand by what I've been trying to hook you into

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<v Speaker 5>for the past few weeks and months, which is that

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<v Speaker 5>in the end, I don't know what the margins are

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<v Speaker 5>in the states. I'll study that in the next little while.

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<v Speaker 5>And in the end, if you win a state, it's

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<v Speaker 5>winner take all, and it doesn't matter if you win

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<v Speaker 5>by one thousand, five thousand, or on hundred thousand votes.

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<v Speaker 5>So the electoral college will look probably even bigger. But

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<v Speaker 5>to win the popular vote, that was what Hillary Clinton

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<v Speaker 5>hid behind, to pretend that there was a need to

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<v Speaker 5>change the system, that the electric College was some sort

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<v Speaker 5>of old school, weird connection back to the seventeen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 1>The reality is.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that the popular vote and the electric college has

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<v Speaker 5>gone his way. Now, let's also dive into even deeper

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<v Speaker 5>numbers that I know you haven't seen because I've been

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<v Speaker 5>here all day, all right, And this comes to us

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<v Speaker 5>via our friends at Fox News. They have done a

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<v Speaker 5>thing which is not just an exit poll, but they've

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<v Speaker 5>also got together with the Associated Press to go really

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<v Speaker 5>deep into who voted where. This will be fascinating to

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<v Speaker 5>read and study. But some of the headlines you need

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<v Speaker 5>to see here. Okay, now, remember male, female, all the

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<v Speaker 5>rest of it. Yep, Harris won the female vote fifty

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<v Speaker 5>three to forty five, Trump on the male vote fifty

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<v Speaker 5>four to forty four. The overall composition of the electriate

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<v Speaker 5>fifty four percent women to forty five percent men. So

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<v Speaker 5>the idea that it's just a whole bunch of blokes

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<v Speaker 5>who all got together, No, there were plenty of women

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<v Speaker 5>too who wanted change and would not vote for the

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<v Speaker 5>status quo.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of the groups, this is fascinating, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>Fifty two percent, fifty one percent as well for eighteen

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<v Speaker 5>to twenty nine, thirty to forty four's, forty five to

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<v Speaker 5>sixty four, and sixty five plus. Well, the break is

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<v Speaker 5>that basically at forty five the vote starts.

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<v Speaker 1>To move towards Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>But that said, you really need to pay attention here

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<v Speaker 5>that eighteen to twenty nine year olds, forty six percent

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<v Speaker 5>of them voted for Trump, forty seven percent of thirty

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<v Speaker 5>to forty four year olds. So that is extraordinary for

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<v Speaker 5>a blow coup. Of course, at some point will crack

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<v Speaker 5>over eighty as the president that he was able to

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<v Speaker 5>win over those young voters and A key reason why

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<v Speaker 5>he did that was because he was where they are

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of the media. We've really got to have

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<v Speaker 5>a big, long chat and no will in a moment

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<v Speaker 5>or two is time with my mate James Morrow, which

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<v Speaker 5>is for an awful lot of people. Yes, they watch

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<v Speaker 5>things like you were doing right now, perhaps live at home,

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<v Speaker 5>but then there's a bunch of people who watch YouTubers,

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<v Speaker 5>listen to podcasters, and there's a there's a theory in

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<v Speaker 5>marketing which is that if you market to demographics like

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<v Speaker 5>men and women and eighteen to twenty fours and this

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<v Speaker 5>gender and all of that, right, that you limit yourself.

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<v Speaker 5>The way to actually connect and the way to actually

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<v Speaker 5>win is to talk to networks. And if you turn

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<v Speaker 5>around and look at who Trump talked to on all

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<v Speaker 5>of those podcasts, right, Joe Rogan whole different world of

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<v Speaker 5>people from the left, right and center who listen to

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<v Speaker 5>that right, the Theo Vonne scenario, which was all about

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<v Speaker 5>comedy again, golf channels. He even did an interview with

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<v Speaker 5>the WWE Hall of Famer The Undertaker. So rather than saying, well,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm an eighteen to twenty four year old male, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>a wrestling fan and that's how they interacted, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>how they saw because, of course all of the polite

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<v Speaker 5>people with their fine little suits in the little well,

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<v Speaker 5>they of course were off playing a completely different game

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of the racial parts of this.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Trump won the white.

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<v Speaker 5>Vote fifty five to forty three, but he got fifteen

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<v Speaker 5>percent of the African American vote, highest he's ever gone,

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<v Speaker 5>forty one percent of the Latino vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hang on, isn't this the racist guy who hates

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<v Speaker 1>all Mexican?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 5>What about in terms of education? Oh, you only uneducated people, garbage.

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<v Speaker 5>People who went to school voted for him, high school

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<v Speaker 5>or less. People who even went to college. Believe it

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<v Speaker 5>or not, they voted for him to fifty two percent

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<v Speaker 5>to forty six. Oh, you won't hear that in any

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<v Speaker 5>of the other analysis. Surprise, surprise, the people who didn't

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<v Speaker 5>just go to university but then had further qualifications after university.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, they all loved Harris. But guess what, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>most of the three hundred million people who live in

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<v Speaker 1>this country.

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<v Speaker 5>Also pay attention here who voted when it came to money,

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<v Speaker 5>people under twenty five thousand dollars. Harris won those by

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<v Speaker 5>three points but between twenty five thousand and fifty thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 5>fifty thousand and seventy five, seventy five and one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>thousand dollars, Trump won them fifty one, fifty two fifty

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<v Speaker 5>two percent.

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<v Speaker 1>And people who went over one hundred thousand dollars, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they of course voted for Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh and just finally remember the crazy cat lady thing

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<v Speaker 5>that was going to kill them. They even worked out

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<v Speaker 5>today where that cat owners vote went, and that today,

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<v Speaker 5>if you're a bloke who owned a cat, you voted

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<v Speaker 5>for Trump. If you're a woman who voted who has

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<v Speaker 5>a cat, you voted for Harris. But forty six percent

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<v Speaker 5>of them voted for Trump overall cat lovers, forty nine

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<v Speaker 5>forty nine. Harris showed herself and her true character, which

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<v Speaker 5>was that at one point she was applying for the

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<v Speaker 5>job to be the leader of the free world, but

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<v Speaker 5>she didn't have the guts to look the people who

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<v Speaker 5>loved her the most in the eye. Oh, it was

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<v Speaker 5>all going to be such a wonderful, majestic setting because

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<v Speaker 5>they thought they were going to win. But just as

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<v Speaker 5>I told you, both sides thought they were going to win,

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<v Speaker 5>and yes, there's going to be heartbreak, but can you

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<v Speaker 5>believe that she didn't even turn up.

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<v Speaker 1>To talk to her people today.

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<v Speaker 5>She'll do it in some press conference somewhere where she

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<v Speaker 5>can sort of technically conceived and.

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<v Speaker 1>Slide out the back door.

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<v Speaker 5>But surprise, surprise, the people of the United States rejected

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<v Speaker 5>Kamala Harris as the next president of the United States

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<v Speaker 5>because she's fake. And there was an example of it

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<v Speaker 5>today when she was pretending to use a telephone to

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<v Speaker 5>talk to a voter. But then it was exposed that

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<v Speaker 5>when you actually saw what was on her phone, it

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't a phone call.

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<v Speaker 1>The camera app was open.

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<v Speaker 11>How are you telling you? Have you voted already?

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<v Speaker 1>You did? Thank you, Thank you so very much.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, it's it's so.

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<v Speaker 12>Important that it doesn't ready participate. And I thank you

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<v Speaker 12>because I'm sure you got a lot.

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<v Speaker 7>Of other tea you could be doing ear than.

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<v Speaker 5>A wonder why she didn't win in between talking on

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<v Speaker 5>the telly. And it's been a genuine personal and professional

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<v Speaker 5>privilege to be able to go through all of this

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<v Speaker 5>journey of many months, many years, and obviously tonight, and

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<v Speaker 5>thank you all the shows and all the people that

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<v Speaker 5>we've been working with today and everyone behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 5>on such a cracking job here or Dallas or back home.

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<v Speaker 5>We had the chance to go down to a party,

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<v Speaker 5>perhaps the only party that was he in Washington, because

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<v Speaker 5>it goes more than ninety percent of them. In fact,

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<v Speaker 5>ninety five percent of them ended up vighting. Democrats went

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<v Speaker 5>to the young Republicans and they were having the time

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<v Speaker 5>of their lives as their man was winning. What do

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<v Speaker 5>you think changed people's minds from four years ago?

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<v Speaker 13>I think he connected with kind of a new party

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<v Speaker 13>for the Republicans. He's gone more for the working party.

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<v Speaker 13>He'd been through so much. I mean, there's never been

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<v Speaker 13>a candidate in history who's gone through two kind of

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<v Speaker 13>made up impeachments, the Russia scandal that was made up

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<v Speaker 13>being two assassination attempts.

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<v Speaker 5>Why do you think that, you know, four years ago

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<v Speaker 5>he swipped away. Four years later the greatest comeback of

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<v Speaker 5>old time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, he's great on the economy.

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<v Speaker 5>People trust him, you know, and they're like, hey, my

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<v Speaker 5>grocery prices are expensive. Gas Schreiser out, this is the

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<v Speaker 5>guy want back four years ago? Trumps out of business.

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<v Speaker 5>Why is he back four years light up?

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<v Speaker 6>Honestly, I think people had time to actually see what

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<v Speaker 6>it looks like on the other side and what happens

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<v Speaker 6>without him.

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<v Speaker 11>I think it's policies. I think that people are not

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<v Speaker 11>happy with the border being wide open. I think people

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<v Speaker 11>are seeing the inflation is insane and think that we

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<v Speaker 11>should be drilling oil here instead of relying on you know,

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<v Speaker 11>other countries.

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<v Speaker 1>We search our border.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, how his apology is for the units are very

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<v Speaker 11>popular right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Great, first four years, we're gonna get him, get him again.

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<v Speaker 4>Past four year has been terrible foreign policies. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 5>Okayt Wait, what happens when you fight fight fight.

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<v Speaker 6>You fight, fight, fight, and you win, win, win.

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<v Speaker 11>That's how you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby Sall.

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<v Speaker 11>Twenty twenty four, there's four years.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>James Morrow has been psaking it all up North Carolina

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<v Speaker 5>where the media was holding on forever to say that

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<v Speaker 5>he'd won, but it was pretty obvious he did. It

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<v Speaker 5>was one of the swing states. And James, with the

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<v Speaker 5>US report, you have remained focused that this was the

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<v Speaker 5>result you believed was always going to be there. You

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<v Speaker 5>and outsiders as well, always going to be here. So

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<v Speaker 5>tell us now that we're sort of in the official

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<v Speaker 5>opinion zone, how are you feeling to.

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<v Speaker 4>Not well, I'm feeling pretty vindicated. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to do a little bit of this,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know you can almost do a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of that, you know, the Bill Trump dance. It's it's

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<v Speaker 4>been it's been a it's been a long run. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you what's been a bit of a long

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<v Speaker 4>night here, Paul. But the important point here is that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, from the start, put aside the politics of

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<v Speaker 4>you know, left and right. In fact, left and right

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<v Speaker 4>don't really mean anything anymore in the same way that

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<v Speaker 4>they used to, because you know, first of all, they

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<v Speaker 4>put into the nomination by an incredibly undemocratic process, the

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<v Speaker 4>party that claims to be the defender of democracy, this

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<v Speaker 4>empty suit Kamala Harris, who then went for four months

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<v Speaker 4>and had absolutely nothing to offer the American people. So

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<v Speaker 4>why people are surprised by the result, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a little flabbergasting, Like, really, you're surprised that this person

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<v Speaker 4>got up and she had like Beyonce concerts, but no

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<v Speaker 4>policies to you know, bring your gas prices down and

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<v Speaker 4>bring your power prizes down.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and people were surprised she lost. Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's.

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<v Speaker 4>Say that first second, well, let's just talk about those

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<v Speaker 4>exit poll numbers that you talked about. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 4>is the comprehensive realignment of left right Left right don't

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<v Speaker 4>mean anything the way they used to, because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>now the Republican Party is now solidly the party of

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<v Speaker 4>the aspirational middle of all classes and all races. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's not just the income that you talk about,

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<v Speaker 4>not just the male and female, but you look at

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<v Speaker 4>some of the other figures. You know, yeah, as you do,

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<v Speaker 4>black Latino voters came out for Donald Trump, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you also saw people like the Musslim American mayor of Hamtrack, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 4>endorsing Donald Trump. People of all races realized that the

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<v Speaker 4>Democrat Party, you know, what they have to offer is

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<v Speaker 4>you know, unless you're at the very top end or

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<v Speaker 4>the very bottom end of the spectrum, it's very bad

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<v Speaker 4>for you because you're dealing with high immigration, high crime,

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<v Speaker 4>woke politics in your schools and there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 4>in it for you there. Whereas the Republicans, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they're the party of aspiration there, the party of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>getting out of your way, letting you do your thing

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<v Speaker 4>and making it the best, being the best you can.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a slogan that you see on a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the Trump signs, and I think he should have leaned

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<v Speaker 4>into it harder, and that was dream Big Again. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think that that captures that kind of aspirational idea

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<v Speaker 4>of the Trump campaign. But I think that's you know

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<v Speaker 4>what a lot of people in America are kind of

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<v Speaker 4>feeling like the country has been constrained, you know, intellectually

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<v Speaker 4>and in all sorts of ways by this you know,

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<v Speaker 4>overlay of this kind of elite that don't really want

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<v Speaker 4>people to succeed. They've got theirs and they're happy for

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<v Speaker 4>everybody else to sit tired and do their thing. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think that, you know this, there's a great unleashing

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<v Speaker 4>of the American potential that we see. And we see

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<v Speaker 4>this with you know, the elevation of Elon Musk and

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<v Speaker 4>people like that who are transforming the country and releasing

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<v Speaker 4>all sorts of new energy. And I think that that's

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<v Speaker 4>really I think that's really important. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 4>big message coming out of this, out of this volte.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, obviously, you know, the media is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 5>the representatives of the people who look at the powerful

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<v Speaker 5>and hold the powerful to account.

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<v Speaker 1>They're supposed to be skeptical, they're supposed to to get

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<v Speaker 1>up in their crawl.

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<v Speaker 5>And for about you know, two weeks, we saw that

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<v Speaker 5>when they had to recognize what had happened with Biden,

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<v Speaker 5>but then of course straight back to form and they

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<v Speaker 5>were trying to pretend that Harris was you know, Obama

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<v Speaker 5>in a pantsuit. And yes, they will inevitably the certain

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<v Speaker 5>parts of it, the establishment media, right, let's not call

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<v Speaker 5>them the mainstream of the establishment radio.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the acts media.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, and they'll all go back into their corners and

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<v Speaker 5>they won't learn any lessons of it. But I just

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<v Speaker 5>want to show you a particularly fun moment Jake Tapper

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<v Speaker 5>CNN when they were looking at the map and he's

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<v Speaker 5>trying to find the silver lining on this very very

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<v Speaker 5>dark cloud for them, And this was it John King

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<v Speaker 5>walking the magic board and they're trying to find.

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<v Speaker 1>The places where she did better than.

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<v Speaker 5>Biden in twenty twenty. Behold a very sweet moment in TV.

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<v Speaker 14>Are there any places that the vice president is overperforming

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<v Speaker 14>Joe Biden in twenty twenty so we can show you

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<v Speaker 14>that as well. We just bring that out here. Harris

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<v Speaker 14>overperforming twenty twenty. Holy smokes, there you go. So let

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<v Speaker 14>this go away and see if there's anything in the

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<v Speaker 14>East Side. There literally nothing, literally nothing, literally not one

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<v Speaker 14>county by three percent or more.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh wow, James, give me thirty give me thirty hot

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<v Speaker 5>ones on that year thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean this is the thing. You know, the

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<v Speaker 4>media covered for Joe Biden, they covered for Calm Harris,

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<v Speaker 4>they you know, and they never learned from their mistakes.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, as you say, for two weeks there was

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of time, but they said, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Biden's not with it, you know, after people like

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<v Speaker 4>you and me had been saying this four years and

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<v Speaker 4>say hey, guys, he's not with it. And they said,

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<v Speaker 4>oh no, no, no, that's a cheap fake. You're fake news.

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 4>You're a cheap fake. Remember that after you know, at

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<v Speaker 4>the G seven and he's sort of wandering off when

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<v Speaker 4>the guys were coming down to the parachutes, and they

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<v Speaker 4>was like, oh no, that's wrong, You've got it wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>And then like two weeks later he's out of the race.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, this is what happens. And this is why

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<v Speaker 4>Kamala Harris underperformed. And they didn't expect that she was

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<v Speaker 4>gonna underperform because they thought everything was fine. They literally

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<v Speaker 4>looked at Kamala Harrison, Hey, she's fantastic. She's got Beyonce.

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<v Speaker 4>How good is she?

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<v Speaker 1>And that was like literally all.

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<v Speaker 4>There was to it, And they thought people aren't buying it.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't understand fundamentally why so, yeah, that's that, good man.

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<v Speaker 1>Congrats on all of you a coverage.

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<v Speaker 5>Look forward to saying more of it in the US

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<v Speaker 5>Report and during daytime no time an old Times Gouy News.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, mate, We love you all the best to

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<v Speaker 5>you and your team. You've done great work. James Morrow

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<v Speaker 5>there in North Carolina. More Rozsi perspectives on an incredible

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<v Speaker 5>day in history.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump is back as the leader of the free world.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I think you can smile about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say more.

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<v Speaker 5>Rossi perspectives on Trump winning the American election.

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<v Speaker 1>The Great Joe Hockey joins us in a moment of

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<v Speaker 1>two time.

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<v Speaker 5>He of course knows him both before the presidency, after

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<v Speaker 5>the presidency and as the Australian ambassador. He's one of

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<v Speaker 5>the sharpest blokes in the country to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 5>And thankfully he's up nice and early or late at

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<v Speaker 5>night in Australia at the time. You get the point,

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<v Speaker 5>we're living multiple time zones all at once. Doing so

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<v Speaker 5>with us is jo Hildebrand. Of course, you can read

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<v Speaker 5>him all over the place, hear him all over the place,

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<v Speaker 5>and the wonderful problem of bishop as well. Let's continue

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<v Speaker 5>chatting about what's happened here, Joe Gee, surprise, surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>The candidate who was really fake.

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<v Speaker 5>Who wouldn't answer any questions, whose policies were vague at best,

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<v Speaker 5>didn't win.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, Kamala Harris is probably the worst political candidate I

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<v Speaker 15>have ever seen in my entire life. She is almost

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<v Speaker 15>almost overtly vacuous. She clearly understands absolutely nothing that she's saying.

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<v Speaker 15>She clearly believes in nothing. She's a bit like a

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<v Speaker 15>ring ray from the Lord of the Rings. She's just

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<v Speaker 15>a soulless human being. That is why she didn't connect.

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<v Speaker 15>That is why for weeks I've been saying, and I

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<v Speaker 15>know I certainly haven't been alone, that she was the

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<v Speaker 15>worst possible replacement for Joe Biden. It speaks volumes to

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<v Speaker 15>the incompetence and the cowardice of the Democratic Party machine

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<v Speaker 15>that they didn't tap Joe Biden in a fashion that

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<v Speaker 15>could have allowed a real contender to come up and

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<v Speaker 15>have a decent primary where the candidate could actually have

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<v Speaker 15>been blooded. Instead, you had someone who did so appallingly

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<v Speaker 15>in the first and only primary she contested four years

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<v Speaker 15>ago that she had to pull out without a single

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<v Speaker 15>delegate after the very first debate, an abysmal debate performance.

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<v Speaker 15>And then she gets handed the vice presidency on a

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<v Speaker 15>platter for absolutely no reason other than identity politics. Joe

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<v Speaker 15>Biden said, well, I'll get a black woman, and so

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<v Speaker 15>he did. If that's not the most outrageously insulting and

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<v Speaker 15>disgusting thing that any black woman or any human being

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<v Speaker 15>could hear or imagine, I don't know what is I mean?

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<v Speaker 15>Talk about condescending, talk about literally skin deep politics. And

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<v Speaker 15>then she gets literally handed virtually the presidency on a

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<v Speaker 15>platter again without having to contest a primary, even and

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:36.159
<v Speaker 15>it is given to her. She has given hundreds of

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<v Speaker 15>millions of dollars the entire campaign infrastructure, and all she

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<v Speaker 15>has to do is just not up. And yet still

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 15>she manages to just drop the whole lot in a

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<v Speaker 15>giant steaming mess at her feet, and has handed Donald

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<v Speaker 15>Trump an even greater victory than he got in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 15>And this is eight years after they knew Jnald Trump

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<v Speaker 15>had won, they knew had come from behind, he won

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<v Speaker 15>a higher number of votes in twenty twenty, and yet

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<v Speaker 15>they still somehow managed to completely screw it up and

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<v Speaker 15>give him the greatest possible electoral victory. Anyone could imagine

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<v Speaker 15>both Houses of Congress, the popular vote, and the entire

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<v Speaker 15>sweep of swing states. This is incompetence on an industrial scale,

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<v Speaker 15>universal level. Everyone in the Democratic Party should be sacked

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<v Speaker 15>and they should start from scratch.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Well, I look forward to just replaying the

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<v Speaker 5>same one, but maybe changing some words and making it

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<v Speaker 5>a far more local conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps in and around the next federal election.

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<v Speaker 5>But we'll see what happens again, Bromwin, I understand that

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<v Speaker 5>there's much to say, many details, but there is a

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<v Speaker 5>sense here that yet again, surprise surprise, the person who

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<v Speaker 5>wins is the more decisive, surprise surprise, is the one

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<v Speaker 5>with an actual clear plan. And also, let's get back

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<v Speaker 5>into that concept of what the word fight means.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, fight by the left.

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<v Speaker 5>Is defined as you're literally confrontational, and January the sixth

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<v Speaker 5>perfect example of it.

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<v Speaker 1>A disgraceful moment in history.

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<v Speaker 5>But as I said, when you see a guy's been

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<v Speaker 5>shot at and says fight, fight, fight, and then he

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<v Speaker 5>says I'm going to fight, fight, fight for you, I

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<v Speaker 5>hear strength.

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<v Speaker 12>Paul I said last night on air that Trump would

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<v Speaker 12>win and that it wouldn't take forever to find out either.

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<v Speaker 12>I believed he would win all along. And I believe

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<v Speaker 12>that women have been put back enormously because she was

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<v Speaker 12>clearly an affirmative action DEI pick without the ability to

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<v Speaker 12>do the job, and that makes it so much harder

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<v Speaker 12>for other women who are coming through. But there's a

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<v Speaker 12>much more important thing I think that's happened with this result.

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<v Speaker 12>And I'm old enough to remember when Ronald Reagan was elected,

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<v Speaker 12>and for years we'd all been beaten around the head,

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<v Speaker 12>being told that the United States had to unilaterally disarm

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<v Speaker 12>itself with nuclear weapons, right, just the United States, and

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<v Speaker 12>then the world would be a safer place, which of

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<v Speaker 12>course was absolute rubbish, just like we're all now being

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<v Speaker 12>beaten about the head with climate change, which is really

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<v Speaker 12>designed to shift the wealth from the north to the south.

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<v Speaker 12>So what happened when Reagan came in he developed peace

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<v Speaker 12>through strength. Strength was what it was all about. In

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<v Speaker 12>the lead up to his election, they used to say

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<v Speaker 12>he dropped the atomic bomb and he was a lunatic.

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<v Speaker 1>He was this, he was that.

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<v Speaker 12>He was hugely successful and the world was a safer

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<v Speaker 12>place because his policies were good and the economy was good.

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<v Speaker 12>So what I see now is the ability for the

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<v Speaker 12>world to roll back the nonsense about wokery. He said

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<v Speaker 12>there'll be no men playing in women's sports. He said

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<v Speaker 12>that there'll be no surgeries in jails, and there'll be again,

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<v Speaker 12>parents will be consulted. There were so many issues that

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<v Speaker 12>have been allowed to creep into our education system, which

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<v Speaker 12>is scaring the living daylights out of kids and not

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<v Speaker 12>making them want to achieve and love their country. And

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<v Speaker 12>he will make love of your country something that people

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<v Speaker 12>were able to hold their heads up for again. So

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<v Speaker 12>there was so much riding on this election, and I

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<v Speaker 12>think that we will see start to see some common

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<v Speaker 12>sense come back. You might even see big firms giving

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<v Speaker 12>up esg that they'll start to really look at the

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<v Speaker 12>proper bottom line again and run companies the proper way

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<v Speaker 12>to make a profit for their shareholders, to produce goods

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<v Speaker 12>that are good for people, not to use subterfuse to

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<v Speaker 12>pretend that prices are right. This is a big opportunity

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<v Speaker 12>which I think will flow into Australia, and I think

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<v Speaker 12>Albanezi should be quaky in his boots.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good stuff. Good to hear from both of you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>I know you've been watching Telly, so that's why I

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<v Speaker 5>let you both go for a while, because you've both

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<v Speaker 5>bet I can see it's been building all day.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had our big.

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<v Speaker 5>Bursts, all right, So let's do a sped round of

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<v Speaker 5>answers now if we can. Guys, by the way, it's

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<v Speaker 5>not really the breaking news because the sky already was there.

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<v Speaker 1>Hours ago.

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<v Speaker 5>At five thirty five in the morning, NBC and CNN

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<v Speaker 5>have finally.

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<v Speaker 1>Declared to be the next president of the United States.

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<v Speaker 5>So desperate were they that their audience was so exhausted

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<v Speaker 5>by the spin that they would have eventually been dragged

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<v Speaker 5>to bed or fallen asleep in the Jason recliner that

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<v Speaker 5>they just whispered into the microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've known it for a while, but the Orange

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<v Speaker 1>Man won.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, often six hours of infomercials. That's where they'll be

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<v Speaker 5>for the next little while. Anyway, hopefully if our team

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<v Speaker 5>can turn those things around as we can, just you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a report on the moment, not a dead enjoy their situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I look forward to that. All right.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, let's get to some of the consequences of this

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<v Speaker 5>Joe climate change, the Paris Accord, which he tore up

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<v Speaker 5>when he was first president, he will do so again.

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<v Speaker 1>That, of course, will.

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<v Speaker 5>Give a much greater cover to people like Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 5>who don't want to talk about twenty thirty, don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to talk about twenty thirty five instead of the focus

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<v Speaker 5>at best is going to be into twenty fifty. Now again,

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<v Speaker 5>American politics is not automatically Australian politics.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's be really clear here.

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<v Speaker 5>The biggest polluter in the world is China, all right,

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<v Speaker 5>the developing nation that is setting up a base on

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<v Speaker 5>the Moon. All right, a developing country would be chat right,

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<v Speaker 5>like China has got an international space station and held

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<v Speaker 5>the Olympics twice this century. Okay, let's not pretend that

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 5>they are what they are. Okay, Now, they're the world's

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<v Speaker 5>biggest polluter. Thirty times more than something like Australia would do.

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<v Speaker 5>We now have, of course, the global South, which is

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<v Speaker 5>the wanky word of saying developing countries, which is places

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<v Speaker 5>like India, Russia. Well again, okay, we're now over half

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<v Speaker 5>of the polluters that don't have to apply to the

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<v Speaker 5>same rules. Okay, the United States is now going to

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<v Speaker 5>step out of that process. And before anyone turns around

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<v Speaker 5>and says that people didn't know this, New York Times

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<v Speaker 5>ask people about climate change is number one issue.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fewer than two percent of people.

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<v Speaker 5>So let's talk about climate change, climate change policy, because

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.400
<v Speaker 5>again it's not like they didn't know what they were

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<v Speaker 5>voting for.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, absolutely right. Look, the first thing is that you cannot,

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<v Speaker 15>no matter your position on climate change, is absolutely unconscionable

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<v Speaker 15>for rich people to tell poor people that they have

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<v Speaker 15>to sacrifice their jobs and their livelihoods in order to

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<v Speaker 15>achieve a target which is often quite theoretical and comes,

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:40.720
<v Speaker 15>you know, beyond most people's kind of immediately immediate frame

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 15>of concern. So that's the first thing. The second thing, though,

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 15>I think climate change, like any other issue that is

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 15>not bread and butter in the here and now, when

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 15>people who are struggling to keep their home, struggling to

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.839
<v Speaker 15>keep their jobs, worried about where their next paychecks coming from,

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 15>how they're going to pay that next energy bill. It

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:00.839
<v Speaker 15>doesn't matter what the complexity is of those or whether

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 15>China or Charter getting the stuff. When they hear politicians

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 15>talking about that, they say, you do not understand me.

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 15>You do not get me. You do not understand what

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 15>I'm going through. And it doesn't matter if it's climate

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 15>change or it's the voice or if it's some sort

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.880
<v Speaker 15>of boutique identity politics issue that left is into. As

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 15>soon as people hear that, they think, right, you don't

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 15>get me, I'm voting for the other guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, now, Bromin also, look again, let's also be ad

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<v Speaker 5>about this. Elections are a decision on a particular day

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 5>in a particular year. Right, They're not permanent revolutions, and

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 5>they're not you know.

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be like this forever.

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:38.359
<v Speaker 5>But let's talk about this day in history and the

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 5>demographics that comes out of the greatest democracy.

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:43.840
<v Speaker 1>In the world.

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<v Speaker 5>It seems that to many Americans, they were willing to

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<v Speaker 5>go past the definitions of race, gender, all the rest

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<v Speaker 5>of it. Instead, the economic circumstances certainly comes to the

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<v Speaker 5>fore in Western politics. Is this the way that elections

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:00.719
<v Speaker 5>will be fought one and a law over the next

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:01.280
<v Speaker 5>few years.

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<v Speaker 12>Yes, Yes, indeed, because I think that people, particularly young people.

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 12>I found the young very interesting in the Trump figures

0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 12>because they are seeing what's being done to their future.

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:19.400
<v Speaker 12>They don't see there is a future. It has to change,

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:22.799
<v Speaker 12>It can't go on like this. So I think that

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 12>collectively there's been That's why I say this is a

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 12>most important switch for the rest of the Western world,

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 12>because it is the beginning of rolling back of what

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 12>we've been subjugated to, which has been destroying our countries.

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 12>And I really do think that that's probably them for

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 12>Australia and for the rest of the UK other countries.

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 12>I think that's going to be a real takeout, and

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<v Speaker 12>it'll start with pulling out of the Paris Agreement.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, all of it will be interesting to see,

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 5>and now obviously in the Australian perspective, it'll be conversations

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 5>about potential tariff's, ucas all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I think it's fair to say.

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.399
<v Speaker 5>And I am no geopolitical expert, but I'm pretty sure

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:10.160
<v Speaker 5>the way Donald Trump works is massive, ambered claim that

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 5>pushes you all the way back to your try line.

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:13.840
<v Speaker 1>And then if you can.

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 5>Push twenty five meters back, you win a little. He

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 5>wins a lot, okay. And in terms of those that

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 5>are worrying about UCAS, okay, pretty sure the focus of

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 5>this administration will be taken on China. Aucus is all

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 5>part of that. Troop deployment is all part of that,

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 5>all right. So if you're worried about whether they're going

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 5>to keep building things in Adelaide, they will pretty certain

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 5>of it. Thank you, guys, do appreciate it. Joe Hockey

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 5>straight up for the break. I can't wait to have

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 5>a chat to this man. He knows him personally, he

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 5>knows him professionally, and he knew this was coming for

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:45.280
<v Speaker 5>a very long time.

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:47.399
<v Speaker 1>We're in a second from Washington for my re live.

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 5>I have been on this rooftop in Washington a couple

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 5>of times, and when Joe Hockey joins me, I know

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 5>we're here for a very good ree, and particularly tonight,

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:03.800
<v Speaker 5>because Donald Trump has one great man. Of course, the

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 5>boss of Bondeau partners this election again and inevitably someone's

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 5>going to see me an email and saying, oh.

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Two days ago you said the poll was fifty to fifty.

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.440
<v Speaker 5>The reality is the electric college is what ends up

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 5>electing people. But how you win a state is a

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:19.760
<v Speaker 5>margin of this much or immediate, It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about the decisiveness of the result.

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 5>I think one of the best things for America, for divided,

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 5>hurt difficult America was it was clear as day and

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 5>he's won by a mile.

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's beyond doubt now, and there have been some

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 3>really interesting outcomes based on credible exit pole data. Trump

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 3>did much better with Latino's, much better with Asians, much

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 3>better with women, much better with people under thirty years

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 3>of age. And this is all contrary to all these

0:39:55.600 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 3>polsters and experts around the place. Even on an issue

0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:07.239
<v Speaker 3>as important as abortion, five states voted Republican and they

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:09.360
<v Speaker 3>voted pro choice.

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 1>At the same time.

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 3>So people were separating the very sensitive issue of abortion

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:19.280
<v Speaker 3>from their vote. And it comes back to the fact

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 3>that it is a fact. Donald Trump campaigned on policy

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 3>issues like costs of living, immigration, getting out of wars,

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 3>making sure that there were lower taxes, less regulation, greater freedom,

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 3>and Kamala Harris campaigned on I'm not Donald Trump, and

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 3>she failed.

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 5>And it seems like again the you know, there's there's

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 5>a whole bunch of political science and scientists and gender.

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>People who go this issue and that issue.

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:52.400
<v Speaker 5>But in the end, she reflected the bubble that was

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:56.880
<v Speaker 5>around her, right, bubble of you know, New York Times,

0:40:57.080 --> 0:41:01.360
<v Speaker 5>MSNBC and the parts of Twitter they still like.

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:05.360
<v Speaker 1>But of course the country's bigger and wider than that.

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 5>And even over the period of time of eight years,

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:12.799
<v Speaker 5>the information sources are different, and the information coming back

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:16.879
<v Speaker 5>to them is obvious. So when they turn around and say, well,

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:19.279
<v Speaker 5>but this job's reported, this economy and you know, this

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 5>is a form of treasurer right.

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.400
<v Speaker 1>You can't just stand there and say we're.

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:25.760
<v Speaker 5>Going great because of this green when you're paying thirty

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:28.320
<v Speaker 5>for eggs and bread.

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Well, you can't tell people they're feeling good if they're

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:35.240
<v Speaker 3>not feeling good, correct, and especially from Washington, DC giving

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 3>them a lecture about how good they should feel about life.

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 3>What was also stunning tonight, Paul, was there was a

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 3>huge swing to Trump in New York City, in New Jersey,

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 3>in Chicago, in working class America, parts of working class America.

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 9>But also in the big cities and it was universal.

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 3>This is what's surprised so many analysts in the last

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 3>few hours is that it's across the board, rural and

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 3>regional and in the big cities that Trump has picked

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 3>up more votes and he will exceed his vote in

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty. So we have now found the Trump Democrats. Yes, yes,

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 3>the Trump Democrats have now emerged. And it's driving the

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 3>Democrats into a position where they need to seriously reflect.

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 9>On what they believe in.

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 3>And it can't be just we're opposed to Trump, because

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:34.720
<v Speaker 3>this is the end. This is the end of Trump's

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 3>reelection and that's it.

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:40.839
<v Speaker 1>It's done. And this is what I'm fascinating one about effectively.

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 5>Look, I mean, we all know because that building is

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 5>up for grabs every two years.

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 1>How a presidency.

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:48.760
<v Speaker 5>Basically in the four years is defined as the first

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:51.799
<v Speaker 5>two and then in the case of a president who

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:55.919
<v Speaker 5>will be a contest to who replaces him, the back

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:58.880
<v Speaker 5>two is different. Right, But these first two to have

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 5>the Senate, to have the House, to.

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Have I don't know if she's got the House yet.

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't go so far as to call the House

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 3>because it's so marginal and I'm waiting to see if

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 3>the Republicans lose those crucial Republican seats in California. Yes,

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 3>so that's but I think you're absolutely right. The Senate's

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 3>a much better result for the Republicans they expected, and

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:23.800
<v Speaker 3>of course the presidency.

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Is as well well.

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 5>So can I just say this, and can I be

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 5>the first person to say it on global media? And

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry that you're going to be in the frame

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 5>when I say this. It means if the Democrats end

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:33.920
<v Speaker 5>up in control of the House and try to impeach

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 5>him for anything, the majority that they have in the

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 5>Senate means he will not be convicted. So let's save ourselves. Yeah,

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 5>whatever the hell that might be.

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 3>And you know what's interesting is in twenty twenty, after

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.359
<v Speaker 3>he was impeached twice, there were no ads run by

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 3>the Democrats about the impeachment. Yes, this time around, there

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 3>were hardly any ads about all these convictions of Donald

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Trump as a fellon and so on, because the American

0:43:57.360 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 3>people are just not interested in it. They're more interested

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 3>in what affects them and their families, whether they can

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 3>get jobs, whether they can pay for the eggs or

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:06.760
<v Speaker 3>the milk.

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 9>They're interested in fuel prices.

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:11.880
<v Speaker 3>They're interested in whether their children are going to go

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:14.919
<v Speaker 3>and fight in another war. They're interested in whether they're

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:17.719
<v Speaker 3>going to have people come across the border and lose

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:20.359
<v Speaker 3>control of their own communities. These are the things that

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:24.560
<v Speaker 3>have made the decision tonight. And I saw some of

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 3>the media in Australia that's so sanctimonious as to suggest

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 3>that democracy ended tonight. I mean, oh my god, this

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:35.920
<v Speaker 3>is democracy, correct. This is where the people have spoken

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:37.719
<v Speaker 3>out against elite opinion.

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Correct.

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 9>And actually that.

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 3>Is what democracy looks like, where people speak in volumes

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 3>and in the majority against what elite opinion is.

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:52.359
<v Speaker 5>But the same democracy that hired him, fired him has

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 5>recorrect exactly right, a midterm judgment.

0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 1>And then of course in four years time.

0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 5>He leaves, but again talking about next Grand Final when

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:05.840
<v Speaker 5>this one is still echoing in the States. So Trump

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 5>the negotiator and also Trump now as somebody who's not

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 5>got this eye on re election. All right, He'll have

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 5>a team around him that have been assisted by laws

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:18.440
<v Speaker 5>like the change to Chevron deference, which means they can

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 5>really go after the expansive power of government where basically

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 5>the government department can make a rule and pretend it

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:26.880
<v Speaker 5>to law and enforce it. In the same way, he

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 5>also comes with an aggressive want to cut things out

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:34.520
<v Speaker 5>of the federal budget. Do you think that the first

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:37.279
<v Speaker 5>period of that governing. We know he's going to do

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 5>things about the southern border. We know he's going to

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:41.360
<v Speaker 5>try to do things when it comes to international trade.

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 5>But he has a very clear mandate to come very

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 5>creak some stuff right absolutely.

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 3>And it's interesting because some of the people he has

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:53.360
<v Speaker 3>around him, like Elon Musk or Robert Kennedy, they're eccentric.

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:54.680
<v Speaker 9>There's no doubt about that.

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 3>They won't be able to occupy official positions like secretarius

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:03.560
<v Speaker 3>Aid or Secretary of Treasury or whatever, because they still

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:06.280
<v Speaker 3>might not get through the Senate confirmation.

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't imagine.

0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:10.880
<v Speaker 3>But he will give them absolute authority to go around

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 3>and break some shells. And that's what Americans have just

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:18.360
<v Speaker 3>voted for. They have voted for Donald Trump to be

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 3>a disruptor, to change the system. You know what Australians

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 3>do understand because they travel to the US, is when

0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 3>you go into San Francisco and you see the despair

0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 3>on the streets.

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 9>Or downtown Los Angeles or.

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:35.759
<v Speaker 3>Even New York wherever it is we see that, and

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 3>then yet some people are surprised that they've voted for

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump, or the Americans have voted for Donald Trump.

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:44.520
<v Speaker 9>To stop that, or at least to take it on.

0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, but this is the thing.

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:48.480
<v Speaker 5>I mean, literally, we're in Dallas, beautiful, wonderful, amazing city,

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 5>and we're watching people in a food line, right like

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:53.200
<v Speaker 5>if it was a black and white photo from the

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.760
<v Speaker 5>nineteen thirties, you would think that they just were wearing

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 5>future clothing.

0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:00.120
<v Speaker 1>That's the level of desperation. So just before we're done.

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 3>And Dallas does vote Democrat, yes, correct, I mean Hillary

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:09.359
<v Speaker 3>won the thirty largest cities in America, but Donald Trump

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 3>won the election. It's because people don't want their town

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 3>to end up like the big cities. Well now the

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 3>big cities are saying we've had enough as well.

0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 1>We want to be like this all exactly. All right.

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 5>So in terms of the Australian connection, I've spoken that

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 5>I think aucust remains unchanged.

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's going to be clear.

0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:32.000
<v Speaker 5>I think the tariff conversation is really code for China,

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<v Speaker 5>all right. I'm not imagining there's going to be an

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<v Speaker 5>Australian scenario that said free advice. How does this government

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<v Speaker 5>which has a Prime minister which has said while he

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<v Speaker 5>was president what his feelings were, and there will be

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<v Speaker 5>people that will bring that up to Donald Trump, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 5>But how does Australia deal with team read everywhere?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the starting point is don't be a public critic,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, yeah, good. I always found that could be

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<v Speaker 3>a private credit and publicly you don't have to support

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<v Speaker 3>you just don't become a don't join the conger line

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<v Speaker 3>of critics. And that's a good starting point. The second

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<v Speaker 3>point is I'm glad that Prime Minister Albanezi has reached

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<v Speaker 3>out already to congratulate Trump. I think, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>I saw Kevin Rudd tonight. I think it's important that

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<v Speaker 3>they build on the relationships. And look, Donald Trump will

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<v Speaker 3>test us, there is no doubt about that, because he

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<v Speaker 3>tests everyone. The question is how we react. Do we

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<v Speaker 3>react in a measured fashion and work out a solution,

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<v Speaker 3>or do we simply, you know, respond like half the

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<v Speaker 3>idiots in the world and just try and criticize him

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<v Speaker 3>and make life hard for it.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct, don't comment, participate, Joe, thank you love all of

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<v Speaker 5>these Bondo partners. Of course, a very good way to

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<v Speaker 5>stay in touch with what might be happening here in

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<v Speaker 5>the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>We're done. We'll see you again from Washington. Trump one

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<v Speaker 1>he fought, e won