1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: I was taken by a photo in the Tizer today, 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: a lady called Jackie McCarthy and her beautiful, great day 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: who looks like the best boy ever, Moby. And it's 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: a story that must be happening right around our country 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: at the moment, certainly here in the essay, people with 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: pets and dogs, particularly who in trying to find somewhere 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: to rent, and as if that's not hard enough at 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: the moment, have to sacrifice their pets because landlords no 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: pets policy. Now that's changing, I think, if it hasn't already, 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: because the state government has moved to change the laws 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: in that regard. But Jackie McCarthy is on the line, 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: the owner of Moby, who, as I say, just looks 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: like the best boy ever. Jackie. Good morning, thanks for 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 1: coming on yes. 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: This morning, Matthew, thank you for having. 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Me tell me the story. What's happened? 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: Okay, Look, a few months ago a combination of my 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: financial and personal issues led me to not be able 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 2: to afford suitable accommodation for beautiful Mobe and myself. And uh, 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: you know I'd applied for multiple rental plases and you 21 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: know I would put down on the application form that 22 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: maybe was a great Dane, and look, I would not 23 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: hear back from them, you know, and I understand in 24 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: one way, but that just didn't really relieve my problem 25 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: of having this beautiful dog who I've had since he 26 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: was a puppy. 27 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: You know. 28 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: I didn't know what to do, and so I got 29 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: in touch with this incredible organization called Safe Pets Fathe Families, 30 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: and I put in a you know, a crisis request 31 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: saying could you please find him a foster home or 32 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: you know, put him into postera care while I could 33 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 2: get myself together. I was just so shocked with the 34 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: whole situation. And so, yeah, he's been in foster for 35 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 2: nearly all of this year, and I've had to move 36 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: in with my elderly mum, mum you know, in her 37 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: late eighties, and we're living in a little unit and 38 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: you know it's because it's a strata titled property. There 39 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: is a no pet policy over here. And I'm just 40 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: hoping that you know, some of us well the h 41 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: I guess what the bill that's trying to get past, 42 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: you know, can a common data our situation. 43 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: The only problem with that when there's a shortage, of course, 44 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: in housing as there is now a landlord can pick 45 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: and choose and say, well, I've just found a tenant 46 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: that I think is better and there's nothing to do 47 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: with you DoD. 48 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, and there's you know, I don't see it's 49 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: really discrimination. But they've got so much choice. And you know, 50 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 2: if there are three hundred applicants for one property and 51 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty of dogs or pets that they 52 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: want to move in, we'll guess who they will choose 53 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: over over us. It is a very difficult situation and 54 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: I I just it's just so mentally draining and disheartening. Really, 55 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: you know, I really don't know how to see my 56 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: self out of the situation and bring maybe home to me. Yeah. 57 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: I don't want him to be in foster care. I 58 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: don't want him to be surrendered. He's part of my 59 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: life and he's just adorable and his size contributes to 60 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: a lot of my personal story. I guess, So, yeah, 61 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: how's he? 62 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he must be confused by what's happening, suddenly separated. 63 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: He's been with you all his life and suddenly he's 64 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: with somebody else. 65 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: He is unfortunately, Moby absolutely adores people, and you know 66 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: he does get confused. He does suffer from anxiety, so 67 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: he's on some medications for his anxiety. And so that's 68 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: I think helped a lot with his foster mum. Yeah, 69 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: he when he when I see him, you know, occasionally 70 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: he's just so joyful and you know, I, oh, he's 71 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: going to forget me, but no, and yeah, but it 72 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 2: does affect him, I think. And like I said, you know, 73 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: he had to go on medications soon after I gave 74 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: him up for foster. 75 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, what the symptoms did he have? What made you 76 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: realize he was anxious or made the foster okay? 77 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: So prior to him going to foster, he would be 78 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: home with me. I used to work from home a lot, 79 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: and I'd keep him inside when I went out. And 80 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: when he went to foster, his new owner, rather new 81 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: lady a mum, found that he was barking a lot. 82 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: And because she'd keep him outside and rightfully so out, 83 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: you know, but apparently she had got quite a few 84 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 2: complaints about him barking. And you can imagine a great 85 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: danes bark is very loud. And so he got assessed 86 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 2: by that that service, the charity organization, and they put 87 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: him on medications which aren't cheap, as you know, and 88 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: so it's taken quite a few months for him to 89 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: just relaxedly. 90 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: And Jackie, I imagine and you might have tried shelters, 91 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: but I imagine they're pretty overwhelmed as well. I mean, if 92 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: you're going through this, hundreds of people must be going 93 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: through this, and with their animals. 94 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: It's absolutely devastating. You know, people don't people don't want 95 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: to to render their pets. And I read about it 96 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: in the media, and you know, hear from other people 97 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: who in the same situation, and you know, imagine families 98 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: having to divvy up you know, their dogs or their 99 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: cat or you know, can't afford the rental accommodation that 100 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: they were living in, and you know, it breaks up 101 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: the family unit is good and pets are part of 102 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: the family, very important for our for our mental health 103 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: issues and for our well being, and so you know, 104 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: it's it's it's very very devastating. 105 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Jackie, thank you for sharing the story. And 106 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if it will help in any way, 107 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: but hopefully it does or make people realize that at 108 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: the very least as to how many people and you 109 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: know yourself one who are going through this at the moment, 110 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: trying to find a place to rent and also a 111 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: place that will accept a dog, particularly in your case, 112 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: a great Dane who's who's probably nearing the end of 113 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: his life judging by the photo. 114 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: But that's true, that's true, and he's you know, he's 115 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: seven years old and a pretty good innings for a 116 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: great Dane. That's another distressing thing, Matthews, that you know, 117 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: I've had him all my of his life and I 118 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: want to be with him, you know, hopefully for another 119 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: seven years. That wonderful, But I understand there are people 120 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: out there in very similar circumstances, and you know, my 121 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: empathy to everyone absolutely. 122 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: Thank you Jackie for telling the story. 123 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 124 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: Hopefully you're reunited together in your own place soon, sooner 125 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: than later. Jackie McCarthy, who if you've got the paper, 126 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: page nine, beautiful photo of Moby the dog, the great 127 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: Dane who looks like it could almost wear a saddle. 128 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: He's a big dog, as great Danes are, unsurprisingly, and 129 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: he's there with Jackie. And that's the extent of the 130 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: rental crisis at the moment, where people with animals, with 131 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: pets just can't find a place where they can take 132 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: the pet. Because even though legislation is out now and 133 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's by now, it's been an act that 134 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: it was last year they were talking of doing it, 135 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: so surely it's passed and enacted. But when a landlord 136 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: has so many applications and if he's decided he'd rather 137 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: not have a pet, well, of course he's going to 138 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: pick one and say, well, this one's ideal, my ideal 139 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: tenant right here. Out of the hundreds of applications he's gotten, 140 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: Chances are it's not going to be one that has 141 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: a dog, or a big dog, especially attached to it.