WEBVTT - Your money bounce-back plan

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How Do They Afford That? A podcast that

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<v Speaker 1>peaks into the financial lives of everyday Australians.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Michael Thompson.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an author and the co host of the business

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<v Speaker 1>news podcast Fear and Greed. As always, I'm with Canna Campbell,

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<v Speaker 1>financial planner and founder of Sugar Mama TV, the financial

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<v Speaker 1>literacy platform that covers YouTube, podcast books, Instagram threads, TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>and more.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Canna, Hello, how are you? I am good and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to today because today we want to help.

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<v Speaker 1>We're very selfless with today's episode. Christmas is behind us

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<v Speaker 1>well and truly behind us, and hopefully you had a

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant time, good presence, plenty of good food and drink,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even a little holiday away perhaps, bus all of

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<v Speaker 1>that comes with the very very very real risk of

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<v Speaker 1>a festive season financial blowout.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't it hangover?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a good way to put it, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>It is a hangover.

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<v Speaker 1>So today we are going to put together your money

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<v Speaker 1>bounce back plan. So if you maybe spent a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit too much over Christmas and over that whole period,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no judgment. It is just help getting back on track.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is for you, it's fairly predictable and consistent,

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<v Speaker 1>right that at this time of year there is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little bit of a hangover.

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<v Speaker 2>It's such an.

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<v Speaker 1>Expensive time of year, right, Why why when we know

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<v Speaker 1>it's coming, When we know that Christmas is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be expensive, When we know it's going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>time of year when you want to go away, or

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<v Speaker 1>you want to spend a bit of time, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go out for meals and things like that, why

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<v Speaker 1>then is it so hard to prepare for that and

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<v Speaker 1>to why we left with the financial hangover every single year.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand. I'm speaking from experience here, what you're

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<v Speaker 1>feeling a bit financially dusty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just a little bit, just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do find it for us that, even though

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<v Speaker 1>we know it's coming, that the same result every year.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is this happening?

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<v Speaker 3>I think Christmas is a very emotional time of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got you know, families. It's also for some people

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<v Speaker 3>it is a very lonely time of the year. I

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<v Speaker 3>got traditions, you've got guilt, you know, the pressure to

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<v Speaker 3>be generous, and of course it's an exciting time of

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<v Speaker 3>the year, particularly if you've got young children, and then

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<v Speaker 3>discovering you know, families, traditions and mix in all those

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<v Speaker 3>feelings and they completely override any sort of logical way

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<v Speaker 3>of thinking. And as a result, we over indulge, and

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<v Speaker 3>we over indulge in gifts, We over indulge in food,

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<v Speaker 3>We over indulge perhaps on holidays and catching up with

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<v Speaker 3>friends and you know, all the kids' activities and travel

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<v Speaker 3>and hosting everyone over and thinking, oh, just this once,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, or you know it's only you know, this

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<v Speaker 3>time of the year, and you know, before we know it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the stress of the pressure, the so for

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<v Speaker 3>social obligations, and then boxing day sales, fear missing out,

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<v Speaker 3>boom like oh whoopsies, we blue out, a financial blowout

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<v Speaker 3>and we are left holding the financial damage.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, if we are going to do a money bounce

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<v Speaker 1>back plan, these kinds of things are best broken up

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<v Speaker 1>into steps. I'm not going to call it a list today.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a step to program. How many

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<v Speaker 1>steps would you like to put on this non list?

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<v Speaker 3>I was I think instruction steps that we think maybe

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<v Speaker 3>maybe do five five.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is the five step program, the money the

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<v Speaker 1>five step money bounce back plan.

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<v Speaker 3>We need a fast bounce back, So I would like

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<v Speaker 3>to do ten just so you know, but we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to do five.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to stick with five. Okay, Step number one.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the very first thing that people should do if

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<v Speaker 1>they've looked at the bank account after Christmas, after New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's and just felt a little bit of panic?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, guilt does not fix anything. Clarity does.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, So we've.

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<v Speaker 3>Got to get those numbers down pen to paper. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't bounce back from something that you can't see, So

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<v Speaker 3>let's first of all, like get really clear. Let's create

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<v Speaker 3>the awareness so that we can start putting steps in

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<v Speaker 3>place so that that bounce back happens quickly. So what

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<v Speaker 3>does that mean, Well, it means we've got to log

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<v Speaker 3>in and look at the numbers. As scary as they

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<v Speaker 3>may be and as much as we really don't want it,

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<v Speaker 3>but we need to know exactly how much money have

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<v Speaker 3>we actually spent and where did it come from, Like

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<v Speaker 3>did we take it out of a special savings account

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<v Speaker 3>that we shouldn't of or did we blow all our

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<v Speaker 3>money before payday? Or did we use our credit card

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<v Speaker 3>or did we sign up to buy an hour pay later,

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<v Speaker 3>Like what's left? Who do we owe? Like what are

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<v Speaker 3>the balances, what are the interest rates? Everything's got to

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<v Speaker 3>be written down.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes complete sense to actually go in and look

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<v Speaker 1>at it and see very basi really what's actually there?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this how some people get themselves in real trouble

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<v Speaker 1>because you just can't face it. Yes, they're the sand,

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<v Speaker 1>bury your head in the sand. But because it's the

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<v Speaker 1>start of the year, and because you're dealing with some

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<v Speaker 1>debt leftover from last year, bury your head in the

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<v Speaker 1>sand at the start of the year. Is this just

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<v Speaker 1>going to set yourself up to fail because it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to snowball and spiral and keep going through.

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<v Speaker 3>The year compound and you'll be chasing your tail. And

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<v Speaker 3>the longer this goes, the harder it is to get

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<v Speaker 3>back on top of it. And you're wasting, wasting such

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<v Speaker 3>precious time, time that can be used on building wealth

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<v Speaker 3>rather than paying off regretfulness, not regretful, that's the wrong word.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know the thing is, it's been done, done,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in the past. There's nothing you can do to

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<v Speaker 1>stop it from happening. It's now just about how do

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<v Speaker 1>you recover from it?

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<v Speaker 3>And it starts by getting clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's step number one. What's step number.

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<v Speaker 3>Two, Let's stop the bleeding.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a first aid reference, so you're applying pressure to

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<v Speaker 1>the wound.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is where we stabilize your finances. So we

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<v Speaker 3>have basically like I'd say, if you can do this,

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<v Speaker 3>make it a fun and financial challenge. So we hit

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<v Speaker 3>pause on all the discretionary spending for the next day

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<v Speaker 3>two to four weeks, and we delay anything that's not urgent.

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<v Speaker 3>So go aggressively through your budget, through your statements, and

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<v Speaker 3>look whatever you can cancel or freeze, particularly if there

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<v Speaker 3>are things that you're not using or don't need immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's all about spending only intentionally, not automatically. So

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<v Speaker 3>if you used to maybe going out every weekend, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to the pub, you'd say, I'm not going to go

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<v Speaker 3>to the pub this weekend. I'm just going to hang

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<v Speaker 3>out at home and save my money. So it's about

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<v Speaker 3>creating a bit of I guess, a financial respite to breathe,

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<v Speaker 3>and any money that you're able to save up in

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<v Speaker 3>the meantime, you can go towards putting like a band

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<v Speaker 3>aid to stop the bleeding of your finances.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit of frugal February coming in there,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>There is that very fam moss fun financial challenge that

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<v Speaker 3>we might do together.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, yes, I know, just coming up in just

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks. That's exciting. That makes sense though, that

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to stop the bleeding because it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be hard to make any headway if you're still spending.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you just literally got to stop spending. Leave your

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<v Speaker 3>wallet at home, change your activities. You know, don't go

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<v Speaker 3>wandering around the shops looking at shops because you'll just

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<v Speaker 3>find things that you want to buy and it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to deplete your energy. Just just change so only for

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<v Speaker 3>the short term.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the time of year as well, to embrace

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<v Speaker 1>free activities as well, because it's warm. It's nice to

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<v Speaker 1>go out to the to the beach or to the

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<v Speaker 1>park or something, or go to the library where there's

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<v Speaker 1>aircon and you just you don't have to spend any

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<v Speaker 1>money there things right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's number two.

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<v Speaker 1>And I realized I've just made myself sound like a

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<v Speaker 1>massive nerd because that would be high my priority list.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just go and live in the library for library.

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely do step number three.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is to create im perfect timing of frugal February,

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<v Speaker 3>a thirty day money reset for yourself, so you would

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<v Speaker 3>track every single dollars. You've done the pause, you've stopped spending,

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<v Speaker 3>but now it's about changing things going forward, So tracking

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<v Speaker 3>the dollar only spending with physical cash or your direct

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<v Speaker 3>debit cards. You're not creating any new debt in your

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<v Speaker 3>life and doing things reverting back to a very simple life,

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<v Speaker 3>richly simple life. So looking at simple meals, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not creating this expensive gourmet meals. Just something very easy,

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<v Speaker 3>simple and cost effective, even entertaining. As I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not going to the pub. Maybe have a friend over

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<v Speaker 3>for a drink, or don't go out for lunch, go

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<v Speaker 3>for a walk with your friend. Like really changing up

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<v Speaker 3>your lifestyle and learning to use what you've already got.

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<v Speaker 3>Go through the pantry, go through the freezer. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you do have to go to something, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>shop your own wardrobe is what my girlfriend says, and

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<v Speaker 3>stick to a set budget so that you don't go crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got some stanity money, but you can oh go

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<v Speaker 3>to the library, yes, yes, Oh my gosh, a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of first a paper, go to the library. Yes, for

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<v Speaker 3>everybody listening, Michael likes to go to the library, and

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<v Speaker 3>he highly recommends everybody else to save money goes to

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<v Speaker 3>the library. I go to the library too, and I

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<v Speaker 3>love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to get you just to seamlessly work

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<v Speaker 1>it in that way, work one of your own financial tips.

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<v Speaker 3>I love going to the library too. But one of

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<v Speaker 3>my problems is is there is a Calipress cafe right

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<v Speaker 3>underneath my local library, so and I always associate cali

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<v Speaker 3>Press with getting a not very healthy assy ball. So

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<v Speaker 3>it ends up costing me sixteen dollars to go to

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<v Speaker 3>the library because I can't go to the library without this.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So, really it's about hitting doing things, really

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<v Speaker 3>going aggressively and doing a complete financial reset just to

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<v Speaker 3>stop the spending and to help free up the cash

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<v Speaker 3>flow so you can just clear the debt.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do them at the same time or is

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<v Speaker 1>it one after the other, because I'm thinking that if

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<v Speaker 1>you were to do a two week pause on discretionary spending, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that will take you through to the start of February,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, and then you can just do frugal February

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<v Speaker 1>as you're a thirty day or in this case, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight day money reset where you are monitoring all of

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<v Speaker 1>your money and you are living that more frugal life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So the first step is more about going aggressively,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the second step also is more about building

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<v Speaker 3>sustainable habits that will also benefit you and also give

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<v Speaker 3>you a great insight as to what actually does fill

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<v Speaker 3>your cup. You know, for example, catching up with a

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<v Speaker 3>friend for a walk. Is that Did you get more

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<v Speaker 3>enjoyment doing that than say, sitting in front of it

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<v Speaker 3>at a table at a restaurant, you know, an expensive lunch?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or just chatting over some books at the library.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go, All right, very quick break. We are

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<v Speaker 1>coming back then with steps four and five. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>really going to be able to polish this one off

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<v Speaker 1>in just five steps?

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<v Speaker 3>Little faith, I've got.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of faith, but I've also seen you time and

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<v Speaker 1>time again just squeeze an extra step in there at

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<v Speaker 1>the end. Better not do that this time? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to you better believe.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the most important step coming up?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, okay, great tease. We will come back

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<v Speaker 1>for the most important step into a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Cana.

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<v Speaker 1>We are putting together a five step money bounce back

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<v Speaker 1>planned so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Step one is.

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<v Speaker 1>Expose it, get it out there, actually look at it

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<v Speaker 1>and see exactly what damage has been done, understand it,

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<v Speaker 1>understand it. Then stop the bleeding. A two to four

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<v Speaker 1>week pause on discretionary spending, then a thirty day money

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<v Speaker 1>reset where you're tracking every dollar and just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>getting back to basics really.

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<v Speaker 3>And understanding what is sustainable, what new habits you can

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<v Speaker 3>form that you actually don't mind and actually aren't a

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<v Speaker 3>sacrifice at all because they can serve you for the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Step number four before the break, you said that this

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<v Speaker 1>was the most important step.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that is to pay off the debt.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a very good point.

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<v Speaker 3>Assuming you've pay off the debt or actually replenished those

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<v Speaker 3>savings accounts. If you didn't get into debt, it actually

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<v Speaker 3>tapped into savings that you shouldn't have actually used.

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<v Speaker 2>So you do that.

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<v Speaker 3>If you are in debt, you need to use something

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<v Speaker 3>called my hitless strategy. Now, this is an aggressive strategy

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<v Speaker 3>that taps into the psychology of money. Is not necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>the most not necessarily the most financially savvy way of

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<v Speaker 3>doing it, but it is where you focus on the

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<v Speaker 3>smallest debt first rather than the most expensive debt first,

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<v Speaker 3>not necessarily ranking it in order of the highest interest

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<v Speaker 3>to the lowest interest, but the smallest deebt to the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest debt. And the reason why it works, and I've

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<v Speaker 3>coached and counseled thousands of people out of huge amounts

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<v Speaker 3>of debt, is because it taps into the psychology of

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<v Speaker 3>money in that each debt or each person that you

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<v Speaker 3>owe money to is like juggling balls. If you're juggling,

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<v Speaker 3>say seven balls, if I take one ball out of

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<v Speaker 3>the air, it just becomes that little bit easier. So

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<v Speaker 3>how do we get a ball out of the air quickest, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>we get rid of one of the debts, So we'll

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<v Speaker 3>go for the smallest one first because that's quickly and

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<v Speaker 3>easy to hit. So you're literally punching your way through.

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<v Speaker 3>So what that involves is obviously looking at the cash

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<v Speaker 3>flow that you've been able to free up from doing

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<v Speaker 3>steps one, two, and three, and then directing it towards

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<v Speaker 3>the smallest debt first, and you make a list and

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<v Speaker 3>you cross it off. Of course, you must honor those

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<v Speaker 3>responsibilities or your financial responsibilities of each debts. You have

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<v Speaker 3>a minimum payment plan for every single debt, so you're

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<v Speaker 3>not getting calls by debt collectors and potentially damaging your

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<v Speaker 3>credit score because if there is a repayment plan in place,

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<v Speaker 3>but you work through the list and you will find

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<v Speaker 3>that you're What happens is it taps into the psychology

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<v Speaker 3>of money and you're building momentum. You can actually go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't owe seven people money. I now owe six

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<v Speaker 3>people money. I now owe five people my money, and

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<v Speaker 3>you just flow that through because it creates a routine,

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<v Speaker 3>a rhythm of momentum. The habit system you can then

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<v Speaker 3>use is to then start building up savings and emergency money,

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<v Speaker 3>so you never rely on debt. Now, for the people

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<v Speaker 3>who did not get into debt, they just have used

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<v Speaker 3>money savings that they shouldn't have used. You do need

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<v Speaker 3>to do pretty much the same sort of thing. You

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<v Speaker 3>need to replenish that money. So what you would do

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<v Speaker 3>is go back to the budget and look at what

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<v Speaker 3>repayment plans like it is if it was a debt,

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<v Speaker 3>and have that payment plan go back into those savings

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<v Speaker 3>accounts so you can rebuild those savings as quickly as

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<v Speaker 3>you possibly can.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that makes you are right. That is the most

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<v Speaker 1>important step, and you wouldn't be able to do any

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<v Speaker 1>of that without step one of knowing exactly what you

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<v Speaker 1>have spent. Because you are trying to particularly if you've

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<v Speaker 1>used your own money rather than debt, right, you are

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<v Speaker 1>going to need to know exactly what you've spent so

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<v Speaker 1>that you can replenish it.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't bounce back from something you can't see. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't hit a target that you can't see.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, I like that. That's step number four. Step

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<v Speaker 1>number five bring it home strong, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>That is to build your buffer. Use this as an

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to be smarter with money. For example, take a hangover. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know whether you've ever been hungover or not,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know you think, Okay, where did I go wrong? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I was drinking in the sun, or okay I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I drank too much too quickly, or I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have enough water in between. Like, think about where

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<v Speaker 3>you went wrong so that if you do have another drink,

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<v Speaker 3>you know how to actually drink responsibly. Exactly the same

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<v Speaker 3>with money. Where did I go wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I underestimated how much money I actually needed for Christmas,

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<v Speaker 3>or I got carried away with all the amazing sales

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<v Speaker 3>are on, or I didn't write a proper Christmas list

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<v Speaker 3>of people I need to buy for, or I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>account for the cost of traveling, you know, or hosting people,

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<v Speaker 3>or the cost of alcohol in my you know, Christmas expenses.

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<v Speaker 3>So look to the lesson and then look at that

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<v Speaker 3>lesson and what that cost is, and make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>you have a buffer going forward. And this is where

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<v Speaker 3>you can look to set up like a regular savings

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<v Speaker 3>plan the moment you've cleared that dead and replenished those savings,

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<v Speaker 3>so that you don't repeat history, you don't make the

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<v Speaker 3>same mistake again.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're actually, even though it's January, you're already

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<v Speaker 1>planning ahead for.

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<v Speaker 3>December, knowing that there is a chance you could make

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<v Speaker 3>the same mistake, but it's not going to come at

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<v Speaker 3>a financial cost this time because you're ahead of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not about where you got wrong. It's about

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<v Speaker 3>doing things wiser and smarter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great motivator, isn't it. Yeah, except for the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that for a lot of people it just happens

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<v Speaker 1>each year anyway. But that's why if you do it

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<v Speaker 1>now while those feelings are still fresh, and put those

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<v Speaker 1>systems in place so that by the time you get

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<v Speaker 1>round to December, it's you're fine and automated.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know twenty dollars a week, I mean there's

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<v Speaker 3>an extra thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea makes a massive difference.

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<v Speaker 1>One final question, and this is the thing that always

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<v Speaker 1>gets me, is the fact that right after Christmas you've

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<v Speaker 1>got back to school and with that comes kind of uniforms,

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<v Speaker 1>the various kind of tech requirements, all of those extracurricular

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<v Speaker 1>activities starting up again are all expensive. Right if you

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<v Speaker 1>are dealing with trying to bounce back from the Christmas hangover,

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<v Speaker 1>how on earth then do you deal with this next

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<v Speaker 1>big financial hit, which is potentially the return to school

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<v Speaker 1>or the return to work or anything like that, where

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<v Speaker 1>you're suddenly going to have to start spending money again.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is exactly where I am because my son

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<v Speaker 3>is going into year seven, he's changing schools and oh

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<v Speaker 3>my goodness, the list of items that he needs. It

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<v Speaker 3>is frightening and it's come a bit of a shock

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<v Speaker 3>to me, I will admit. So what I've done is

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<v Speaker 3>made a full list of absolutely everything that he needs

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<v Speaker 3>and I've got a list of what he needs immediately

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<v Speaker 3>to start the year off, but there's also a list

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<v Speaker 3>of what can wait until, like the weather changes or

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<v Speaker 3>the particular sport uniform that he needs, he won't be

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<v Speaker 3>starting that until the cooler months. So I've got the

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<v Speaker 3>two different lists, and then also going through and checking

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<v Speaker 3>everything that we've already got at home. You know, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>some of the last year's supplies that he's used at

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<v Speaker 3>school he can reuse. And you know, most schools do

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<v Speaker 3>have a secondhand uniform shop where and you can also

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<v Speaker 3>swap with other parents, you know, if you've got I

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<v Speaker 3>know some friends of mine who've got younger kids, I

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<v Speaker 3>can actually give some of Roco's uniforms to them. And

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<v Speaker 3>there are people above Rocko who wrote need their uniforms.

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<v Speaker 3>We can do a bit of a swap and pass

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<v Speaker 3>things around. And you know, the mistake I've made is

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<v Speaker 3>when my kids have started school, I bought them brand new,

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<v Speaker 3>just one of brand new, thinking a lot of at

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<v Speaker 3>least they had their one brand new T shirt and

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<v Speaker 3>the rest will be secondhands. They ruin them within a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of minutes. They get stains, you know, they get

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<v Speaker 3>jump in the mud, there's paint like it. I'm no

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<v Speaker 3>longer buying brand new anything like the blazer that's something

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<v Speaker 3>he'll wear for you know, a couple of years different.

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<v Speaker 3>But everything else is going to be secondhand.

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<v Speaker 2>That is it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it is a fraction of the price, like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking ninety percent cheaper. And you know, try and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>spread those purchases out as much as you think, oh God,

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<v Speaker 3>I've gotta buy everything on this list, you don't have to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, spread out as much as you possibly can

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<v Speaker 3>and stick to a limited shop around. You know, don't

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<v Speaker 3>buy it all from one store. You know, Office Works

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<v Speaker 3>is brilliant. They'll often beat the competitor's price, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>using apps like Ziffed or using Amazon's great as well,

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<v Speaker 3>because you can see other products at a different price

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<v Speaker 3>or might be a bit more but a bit more appropriate.

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<v Speaker 3>It might be more versatile, might be you know, have

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<v Speaker 3>more longevity for that particular product. So like deep Breath,

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<v Speaker 3>it is okay, but it is definitely overwhelming. But this

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<v Speaker 3>is I found definitely helped me in getting through an

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<v Speaker 3>expensive time of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>You have done a five step program in just five steps,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is that honestly the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got one for good luck, though I'm joking. I

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<v Speaker 3>told you solutions is to stop trying to.

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<v Speaker 1>Let go of my OCD just and not squeeze extra

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<v Speaker 1>steps and tips in there. Now, look, that's great list though,

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<v Speaker 1>expose it is number one. Stop the bleeding. Number two,

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<v Speaker 1>create a thirty day money reset is number three. Number four,

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<v Speaker 1>pay off the debt or basically put the money back

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<v Speaker 1>where it belongs, where it came from, if you spend

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<v Speaker 1>your own money. And then finally number five, build your

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<v Speaker 1>buffer so that you can avoid hopefully the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>happening again. That is a five step money bounce back plan.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon, that's pretty good. I know that I was here,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can't really judge it appropriately, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>say that's at least ten out of ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Why, thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>I should have gone with five stars because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>five step program. Sorry, missed opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't we ask our listeners to leave us a

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<v Speaker 3>five star rating and review? Oh they're enjoying these.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a fantastic idea. Yeah, wherever you're listening, a

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<v Speaker 1>five star rating and a review is very very much appreciated.

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<v Speaker 2>He cannup. Where do we find you if we want

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<v Speaker 2>more information.

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<v Speaker 3>The best place to get in contact with me is

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<v Speaker 3>on Instagram at Sugar Mama TV.

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