1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: We've got a special bonus episode of from the news 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Room for you Today, I sit down with m Rosciano, 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: a writer, singer, stand up comedian, podcaster and just a 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: total legend in general. She's going to tell us about 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: the many ups and downs she's had in the past 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: few years, including being diagnosed with ADHD and autism. She's 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: also going to tell us about her new national tour 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: and I love this. She is going to detail her 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: most awkward celebrity interview. 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: For the rest of the interview, the least sing us 11 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: out there with his middle finger up at me, the 12 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: whole like. 13 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: It was actually quite impressive. 14 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: Wait to hear that story. All right, we'll get underway 15 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: in just a moment. You have had a pretty chaotic 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: few years. Can you just give everyone a quick summary 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: of what you've been through. 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: Well, there was this. 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: Little once at a lifetime pandemic. I don't know if 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: you heard of it as a live performer the Lockdowns. 21 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: I'm from the home of Lockdowns, Melbourne. You're welcome, and so, yeah, 22 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: we went through that. Then I was diagnosed with ADHD, 23 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: I found out I was autistic, and then I found 24 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 2: out I was an early menopause. 25 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: You've been through it. 26 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: Look, I'm an overachiever, you know, and I feel like 27 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: I had to really just get every diagnosis that I 28 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: could possibly get. 29 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: Let's speak about ADHD and autism. If we can just 30 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: those little. 31 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: Light topics that no one freaks out about when I 32 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: speak about it. 33 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: Well, I would love to know what life is like 34 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: for you. So I'm gonna give you a scenario. Let's 35 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: say you're walking into a social gathering and there are 36 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: some people there that you don't know very well, but 37 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: you have to mingle. What are the thoughts that go 38 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 1: through your head? 39 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: Well, your first mistake is that I'm out of social gathering, right, Okay. 40 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: I tend to not go to social gatherings. Well, before 41 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: I enter a social gathering, I usually practice what I'm 42 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: going to say and think of things so I don't 43 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 2: offend people. And then I'll walk in and then usually 44 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: the music and the smells and the sounds and the 45 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: clinking of the glasses will hit me. 46 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: So then I'll try and deal with that. 47 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: And then I'll try and pick a person that I 48 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: think I maybe know, or maybe I like their outfit, 49 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: or maybe there's something about them that I can mention 50 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: and compliment them on so we've got something to talk about. 51 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: Then I'll go over to that person and then I'll 52 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: think about the right amount of eye. 53 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: Contact I'm supposed to make. Is it too much, is 54 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: it's too little? 55 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's like really creepy, and then sometimes not enough. 56 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: Then I'll go and try and find an animal or 57 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: a child to stand with, because I always feel safe 58 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: with animal or children. Generally, if I've gone missing at 59 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: a party, look for the dog or the kid, and 60 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 2: I will be nestled up next to them, chatting about 61 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: whatever they want to talk about. So for me, it's 62 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: generally an assault on my senses and a worry that 63 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 2: I'm going to offend everyone and be asked to leave. 64 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: But then ultimately I am hoping to be asked to. 65 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: Leave, so that's why I stay home. 66 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: Bucky, Wow, that's a lot. I have heard that neurodivergent 67 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: people use something called masking, yes, in social situations. Can 68 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: you explain what that is? 69 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: Well, Masking is hiding certain attributes about yourself as well 70 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: as you can in order to assimilate and fit into 71 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: the neurotypical people around you. 72 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: Now, masking is a privilege in some ways. 73 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: Also because not all autistic people can mask, but a 74 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: lot of women are highly masked. So it's just a 75 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: way to, I guess, protect ourselves from ridicule or someone 76 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 2: noticing that there's something different about it. And it's something 77 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: that girls do, especially from a very young. 78 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: Age, so you basically have to be a different version 79 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: of yourself. Yeah, that must be exhausting. 80 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 3: It is. 81 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 2: I don't think women full stop in the AFAB community 82 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: are taught when we're very little that you know, you've 83 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: got to be good, and little boys are taught that 84 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: they've got to be brave. So from the moment we're 85 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: kind of cognizant, we are trying to fit a stereotype 86 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: that society. 87 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 3: Is deemed a woman should be. 88 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: And when you quickly figure out, as I did, that 89 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: I didn't fit that stereotype. I had to figure out 90 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 2: ways to kind of put my human suit on every 91 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: day and fit in, which I didn't do very well, 92 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: but I did try. And it is exhausting essentially playing 93 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: a role every day. 94 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: So do you feel like you can take that human 95 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: suit off now and be free? Yes, yes, love that. 96 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: I do feel somewhat unmasked. I mean not now. 97 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: I'm not with you because I'm worry of anything I say, 98 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: like I'm thinking twice and speaking once, like grandmother always said. 99 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: But I'm certainly presenting a much more. It's what the 100 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: world gets of me now is very much me. 101 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: You were diagnosed with ADHD a couple of years ago. 102 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: Why is it that so many more women seem to 103 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: be getting diagnosed later on in life. 104 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: Well, it's an overcorrection of a chronically underdiagnosed condition. Basically, 105 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: so many of us were missed so early on. Because 106 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: the prototype for ADHD, when you think about it, is 107 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: Bart Simpson. If I ask you to think about ADHD, 108 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: it's a ten year old boy bouncing off the walls, 109 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: not an exhausted forty year old mother of three. So 110 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: the problem is there's this symptom recognition bias, and when 111 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: you find out you do have ADHD, initially you think, no, 112 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not a hyperactive ten year old boy. 113 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 2: And when we started to realize, you know, there's different 114 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: symptoms and different presentations, then the diagnostics were corrected. Women 115 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: got together online through social media, we were able to 116 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: meet and compare notes and experiences and realize there's a 117 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: really nuanced presentation of ADHD there's not just one thing, 118 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 2: and so finally there's a much needed overcorrection in diagnostics 119 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 2: because there's so many of us lined up backlogged. 120 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: Are you on medication for ADHD? Sure? How quickly after 121 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: you first took meds did you notice of change? And 122 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: what was that change? 123 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: For me, stimulants worked, and medication certainly isn't for everybody. 124 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: And you know, I always speak about medication with real 125 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: caution because you know it is it's really individual, and 126 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 2: ADHD is like a fingerprint in people. It shows up 127 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 2: differently for all of us. For me, within half an 128 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: hour of taking the stimulants. You know, I've said this before. 129 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: It's like when you live in a house. When you 130 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: have ADHDS, like you're living in a dark house. And 131 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: when you have the stimulants, it's like you get given 132 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: a torch and you can shine your attention on certain 133 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: things in a streamline fashion. It's been called glasses for 134 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: your brain. For me, there's always been a lot of 135 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: internal monologue, four or five shouty voices and commentating my 136 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: every move thought and action, and it kind of whittled 137 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 2: it down to just one exhausted woman chatting. For me, 138 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: it was life changing, but I also appreciate that's not 139 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: the case for everybody. 140 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: So meds have helped you. But what is one small 141 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: thing that all neurotypical people can do to help neuri 142 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: divergent people, just to make life a little bit easier 143 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: for them. 144 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: I think educate yourself on our communication styles. I think 145 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 2: one of the things a lot of neurodivergent people find 146 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: difficult is we often are blunt with our communication. We're 147 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: very honest and open, and sometimes we take things literally, 148 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: so you might ask our opinion on something and we 149 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 2: won't understand that you just want some support in that moment, 150 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: we'll actually tell you the truth. I think it's just 151 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: a general understanding of the way neurodivergence functions, and you know, 152 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: offering supports in workplaces, noise canceling headphones, staggered start times, 153 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: working from home, finding out with their special interests are. 154 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: It's just knowing more about neurodivergence. Because someone at your work, 155 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: someone in your family, someone you love is neurodivergent. You no, 156 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: it's not a rare thing, and if you're able to 157 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: understand how to support them, they can be their best 158 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: self and that ultimately helps everybody So if you. 159 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: Have trouble lying, what do you think of this outfit? 160 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: You think I'm rocking it today. 161 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: I think you look like an immaculate gay man. 162 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: Accurate. And you recently announced a brand new national tour. 163 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: It is called out Grows, and this is your first 164 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: national tour since twenty nineteen. I think it is going 165 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: to travel the country in July and August. I haven't 166 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: had the privilege of going to one of your shows yet, 167 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: but several of my friends have. They say that it 168 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: is kind of like attending a Hillsong church service, but 169 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: without all the religious stuff. What exactly happens at an 170 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: Emersiano show. 171 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: I think that's a compliment. 172 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: People do like in my show to going to church, 173 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: but without the religious stuff, without the shame and guilt. 174 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: Oh god, I shouldn't have said that. So not all 175 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 3: churches like that. 176 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: I appreciate that, but I grew up Italian Catholic, so 177 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: you can understand. 178 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: My shows. 179 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: I aim to create an experience for my community where 180 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: they feel like they belong. I think I've realized that 181 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: you know, you teach the lessons you need to learn. 182 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: My whole life, I've felt like an outsider, and I 183 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: think subconsciously, I've created a community and a universe and 184 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: an experience where other people who have felt othered can 185 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: come together and feel like they're part of something. And 186 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: there's every single you know, pen in my pencil cases years. 187 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: There's stand up, there's singing, there's dancing, there's music, there's puppetry, 188 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: there's all sorts of things. 189 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: This show especially is a bit of a love letter to. 190 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: The neure adivergent community, and I hope that neurotypical people 191 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: come along and feels like they're sitting inside my brain 192 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: for ninety minutes, because I really want to give an 193 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: experience and a roadmap as to how I experience the world, 194 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: and do that through the last five years of interesting 195 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: but everything I've experienced is universal, you know, interesting diagnostics, 196 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 2: and every single person with ovaries will go through menopause. 197 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: So it's not a niche topic I'm hitting on there, 198 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 2: but I do it in a way that I hope 199 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 2: makes things a bit easier for people. 200 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: An Outgrown is going to be a multi sensory show. 201 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: Tell me more about that. 202 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: We're really looking at lighting, soundscapes, actual physical things falling 203 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: from the roof. When there's an autistic people have special 204 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: interest topics, which means when we hit on a topic 205 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: we know a lot about, we just talk about it NonStop. 206 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: We go into like this deep dive dissertation on it. 207 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 2: And there's a couple of times in the show where 208 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to go into a deep dive on my 209 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: special interest topic and we'll illustrate that with light and sound. 210 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,479 Speaker 3: Autistic people especially. 211 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: Are often in awe of things, like there's just I 212 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: always feel in awe of the world and I take 213 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: everything in everywhere, all at once. So I want to 214 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: create a feeling of awe with music. Yeah, we're just 215 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: they'll be I don't want to give too much a worry. 216 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: They'll be big puppet things and they'll be music, they'll 217 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 3: be sounds. 218 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: Sorry about are they going to be smells pumped in? 219 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: We are? 220 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: We were looking at that, but I'm also conscious that 221 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: a lot of my audience are and you're a divergent 222 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: and sensitive to smell, right, So I did at one 223 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: point think about it, but we're just going with something else. 224 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: That's not a smell. 225 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: But it will be a show that I just want 226 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: people to feel. I want them to feel magical. I 227 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: want them to feel like they've left. Just you know 228 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: that feeling when your mom first put the glowy stars 229 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 2: on your roof and turn the lights off when you're 230 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: a kid. 231 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: I want that feeling in my audience. 232 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: Slightly off topic, just on the no type of thing. 233 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: I'm a side press point on the sense of smell. 234 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: Is there a smell you love that most people would 235 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: find odd? Because I if we're going to do confessions here, 236 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: whenever I go for a run, when I get home, 237 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: I love smelling my shorts too much. 238 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 3: Wow, I love that for you. 239 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is super freaky. I reckon hape the guys 240 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: do it? Do that? 241 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: Ye? 242 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: I in on my bing gooat card today. I did 243 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: not think, Bucky. 244 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: That that was what I was going to get out 245 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: of you. I just love the smell of now polish, 246 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 2: Like that's I love now polish. 247 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: But now I'm going to be forever in a day 248 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 3: thinking about you sniffing your shorts after you go for 249 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 3: a jog. I actually love that about you. That's made 250 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: me love you even more. 251 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: I can send you a pair of your blay. Okay. 252 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: I have sensory issues. I smell everything everywhere all at once. 253 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: But I really love really strong yeah, now, polish fumes, 254 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: love a. 255 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: Fume, dry cleaners, yes, chemical smells, heavily chlorinated indoor pool. 256 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: Can't you fly? Though? Ironically my whole show is flowers. 257 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, I know that Outgrown is going to be 258 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: a massive success because all your national tours are huge successes. 259 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: But I would like to know just between us girls, 260 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: do you make much money out of them? Or do 261 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: they put cost heaps of money to put on? 262 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: Wow, they cost heaps of money because what people don't 263 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: realize is I'm the artist. 264 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: I'm producing the show frontier a touring me. 265 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: But I pay for all the crew, I pay for 266 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 2: all the venue, higher, I pay for the band, I 267 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: pay for costuming, I pay for everything. So they are 268 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: expensive in that sense. But I guess for me, I 269 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 2: have this amazing responsive audience who buy tickets, who come along, 270 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: who support me. They know that I'm doing it myself. 271 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm neurodiverg and I'm a woman, and I don't have 272 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: big companies backing me, so they're generally really supportive. And yeah, 273 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I make you a good living off what 274 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: I do. I've been in it for twenty years. I 275 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: work really hard, so it's taking me a while, But yeah, 276 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: I do, I do. 277 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: Okay. 278 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: In will be back with more from m Rosciano, where 279 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: she talks about the best and worst celebrities she's ever interviewed. 280 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: Let's talk showbiz. Okay, You've had a very successful career. 281 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: But I would like to ask about something you wrote 282 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: on your blog a few years ago. You said commercial 283 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: TV in Australia doesn't want to bar off me. What 284 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: makes you say. 285 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 3: That, Well, I'm not on commercial TV in Australia, am 286 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: I have you? 287 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: Have you gone for shows that you've been knocked back? 288 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 3: Gone with lots of shows. 289 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: I always get down to the last two and that 290 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 2: I'm their quirky option. I'm their dangerous choice, me the white, 291 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: middle class suburban mother. 292 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: Can you name drop some shows? 293 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 294 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: Not? 295 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: Okay, but I did actually miss out on one show 296 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: that I was sad about was It's a Knockout. I 297 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,599 Speaker 2: got down to the last two for the It's a 298 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 2: Knockout reboot and I really wanted that because I grew 299 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: up loving It's a Knockout Jackie McDonald, like the Daryl's 300 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: the whole thing, the outdoor of it, the Queenslanders of it. 301 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: I've got down to last year for quite a few shows, 302 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 2: but yeah, I don't generally get across the line. I've 303 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 2: always wanted to make my own TV show. I want 304 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 2: a big, shiny show, a variety, shiny floor variety show 305 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 2: where I'm Judy Gal and I'm Green Norton, you know, 306 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 2: like I'm all these things I've got. Guess I'm singing 307 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: with the band. My ultimate dream is to one day 308 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: make that. So I've just got to get successful enough 309 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: that I can just self produce it, which is what 310 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 2: I do with my podcast, what I do with everything. 311 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 3: Now. My production company makes it. But I just think 312 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: now things. 313 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 2: Are changing with streamers and there's more diversity on Telly. 314 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: But remember when I was trying to crack Telly. It 315 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: was early two thousands and we were seeing, you know, 316 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: not ethnic, tattooed, shorthaired women on the television. And that's 317 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: the truth, just there was none of us. 318 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 3: There was no one. So I was probably up against 319 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: it from a start. 320 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: Who ended up posting it's a knockout? 321 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: I can't remember. I want to say Charlie Delaney maybe 322 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: from High five. 323 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: Oh. 324 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: I lost a lot of gigs to her and Shelley Craft, 325 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,599 Speaker 3: And when you think about it, if they're going to 326 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 3: hire a beautiful Shelley Craft, they're not gonna higher bolshy, 327 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 3: brassy and Russi ano. I was just there for shits 328 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 3: and giggles. 329 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: You've been on radio for a number of years here 330 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: in Australia. You're on radio in Perth, in Sydney as well, 331 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: breakfast radio host in particularly. Get to meet an interview 332 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: so many celebrities. Who's the best one you ever met? 333 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: I got to interview so many great celebrities. I got 334 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: to interview Meryl Streep in Pierce Brosnan for Mama Mia Wow. 335 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: And that was Meryl was amazing. That was But my 336 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: favorite ever interview is Lady Gaga in Perth. She was 337 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: supporting the pussy Cat Dolls. She was the supporter act that. 338 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense as a gay man. 339 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: Back is just god what And she was there with 340 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: a cardboard box and two backups like it was so 341 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: low fi and she destroyed and then PCD came on 342 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: and half the crowd left. She was amazing And when 343 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: I interviewed her, it was Gaga in full flight. 344 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: She was rock star then, same as now. 345 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: She believed in herself, the self belief that she had 346 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: was oozing and she did not disappoint. 347 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: It was incredible. 348 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: I went to that tour. I have a feeling that 349 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: that's lmfao came on after Lad and I. 350 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: Was like, excuse me, there is lmfao. 351 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: At a pub down the road. I'm not entirely surely. 352 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: We spoke about the best celebrity who was the biggest 353 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: dick though. 354 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: Everybody knows this story and for some reason that's been 355 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: doing the rounds. Early days in radio, I interviewed the 356 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: lead singer of Snow Patrol and we got told before 357 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: the interview, don't bring up the fact that this song 358 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: got huge on Ally McBeal medical shows. Here the song 359 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,359 Speaker 2: was it Ally mcfeil. 360 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: Like, they don't like to talk about it, don't bring 361 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: it up, and I'm like, we we're commercial radio, Like 362 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: I have to mention, I have to position you for everyone. 363 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: So I just. 364 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: Said, obviously, you know you've got huge fame notoriety from 365 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: Grey's Anatomy. And then for the rest of the interview, 366 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: the lead singers out there with his middle finger up 367 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: at me the whole like the It was actually quite 368 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: impressive now I look back on it as a young 369 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: like I just added in radio, it was people pleasing. 370 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: I didn't want to be seen as anything difficult or 371 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: believe it or not. And now if someone did that 372 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: to me, I would just derail the entire chat and 373 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: we would just go right into their childhood as to 374 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: why they feel like they're doing this. 375 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: But it was wild. 376 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: I sat there the whole time and all of the team, 377 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: everybody could see he was doing it, but me and 378 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: my co host was so shocked and just wanted the 379 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: interview to be okay that we're just it's wild. 380 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 3: And I wish that we had video because back there 381 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: was no filming every back then. But yeah, that was 382 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: the lead sing. 383 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure he's a lovely guy. I just annoyed him 384 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: and he really made a strong choice. 385 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: Is he the one that is dating Courtney Cox at 386 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: the moment? Is it there is a snow patrol guy 387 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: that's day in Courtney Cock? 388 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: You know, you know his things have turned around. I 389 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: just got him on a bad day, but he was 390 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 3: the most technic and it was early days. 391 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: Given that you've had so much experience in radio, I 392 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: would love to get your thoughts here on Kyle and 393 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: JACKIEO expanding into Melbourne possibly other cities. They could be 394 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: national in the next year or two. Do you think 395 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: they were outside of Sydney? 396 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 3: Sure, I think they're really successful. What do you want 397 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: me to why? What do you want me to do? 398 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: Sit here and say no, I'm I wish them well. 399 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: I do. 400 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: I think they're Gosh the longer how long have. 401 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: They been in the industry, oh, twenty years now? 402 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: Whatever? 403 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: And they're doing something right? But I yeah, good good luck? 404 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: They did? 405 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 3: They just start this week in Melbourne? 406 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: They did? 407 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, time will tell. 408 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: Who knows. 409 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: I haven't really, I haven't listened to radio since I left. 410 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: Really have you. 411 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: Had any run ins with Kyle in the past? 412 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 3: Sure? Probably in your newspaper. 413 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: It's a website. Thank you for reading. 414 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: When I was hosting breakfast radio and Sydney, I'm surely 415 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: we would have had. I mean, yeah, Jackie's lovely. I've 416 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: met Jackie a few times. She's always very nice. I 417 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 2: am not saying anything else. 418 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: I wish them well. 419 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: I wish them prosperity, health, and I'm sure they'll be 420 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: hugely successfully whatever they do. 421 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: I have some rapid fire questions for you. I'm going 422 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: to put sixty seconds on the clock. Are you ready? Yes, 423 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: here we go, Taylor Swift or Beyonce. What's the most 424 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: public place you've done the deed? 425 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: She's the wize. Probably in the bush somewhere. I grew 426 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 3: up in the country. 427 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: When you say the bush, you mean right? Okay, Okay? 428 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: Who was your favorite radio co host? 429 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 3: Sam Mack? 430 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: I love Sam Mac? What's your party trick? 431 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: I can do the splits? Three ways? 432 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm not doing three ways? Yeah? Ok two? 433 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: Three? 434 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: What's a TV show that, in your opinion, is massively overrated? 435 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: Three men and three men? 436 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: What's the one that Charlie Sheen and I know men 437 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: never understood the appeal me either. 438 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: Is there a radio co host that you didn't get 439 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: on with so well? 440 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 3: No comment, no comment. 441 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: What is the best compliment you've ever received? 442 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 3: You make me want to be the best version of me. 443 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: Who's the hottest royal? 444 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 3: Megan? 445 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: How often do you wash your bed sheets? 446 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: Twice a week? 447 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: Twice a week? That is extreme times. 448 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: Says the guy who sniffs his shorts. 449 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: Okay, well, we don't need to keep bringing that up. 450 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 3: I absolutely do. It is a touchstone. Now it's my callback. 451 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: M Outgrown is going to be a huge success. I 452 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: know it is. I'll be there. Yeah, don't keep. 453 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: Saying you're a huge success and then say I haven't 454 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 3: seen him. 455 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: Well there, I don't have to go to know that 456 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: you're going to be success, but I will be there. 457 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: I will be rooting for you. Anyone can get all 458 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 1: the ticket information at your website and at the Frontier 459 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: Touring website. Yeah, thank you so much for coming in. 460 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me