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Speaker 1: It's in her well.

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Speaker 2: One lady who hasn't had much sleep in the year

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty is our premiere Gladays Barrejeeklian. She's about to

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Speaker 2: have a press conference at eight o'clock this morning, but

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Speaker 2: lucky enough she's come on to our show just to

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Speaker 1: Gladys, thank you very much for doing this.

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Speaker 3: Pleasure, pleasure guys. How are you guys going? I haven't

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Speaker 3: been checking up on you. Are you okay?

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Speaker 4: Well, so yeah, we're going, okay, gladdus. We're a bit

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Speaker 1: We're in isolation still yeah, we'per and Sarah.

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Speaker 3: Still still oh god.

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Speaker 2: Three weeks now, Gladys and obviously whippers, there's a new

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Speaker 1: Little Francesca's come into the world.

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Speaker 3: For congratulations. It's so good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great news. But just because she has a

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Speaker 4: low immune system of course, being a five day old baby,

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Speaker 4: we're just being super cautious and.

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Speaker 1: You have to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what to give your hope for

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Speaker 3: the future, beautiful new little life.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, look forward to going.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to get through this, yep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, gladays. I know we're a little bit early in

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Speaker 2: You do your press conference here every morning, but can

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Speaker 3: Oh, look, I'll just say generally it's pretty static. So

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Speaker 4: It's been tough for you know, everybody that is self

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yesterday premiere, you guys said ninety days. Is that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is just a number of days the health

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Speaker 5: You worry though about saying ninety days and then people's

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Speaker 3: I'm actually going to I'm actually going to clarify that

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Speaker 3: that's what the health order says. But that doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: that's how long the restrictions will be for, because after

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we hear there's a headline every hour about a

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of countries around the world doing that.

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Speaker 3: It is and I hope that doesn't happen. But you're

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Speaker 3: Absolutely And that's why it's really important for us to

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Speaker 3: going out for a coffee with a break, your brunch

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Speaker 3: on a lazy brunch on a Sunday.

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Speaker 1: It actually hasn't been too bad, gladdys. In a way,

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Speaker 1: there's a few people that you don't have to hug,

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Speaker 1: and you can stay away from it for a while.

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Speaker 2: Glad gladys, before you go, I know you're about to

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Speaker 2: go to the press conference, just quick me. Next week

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Speaker 2: in is easter. Now a lot of people will be

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Speaker 2: going down the holiday houses up north, down south.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's it. Stay at home for Easter.

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Speaker 3: You cannot take a holiday. I'm sorry. It's location. So

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Speaker 3: have a holiday in your home. I'm sorry you cannot leave.

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Speaker 4: The Easter Bunny allowed out, gladys, because my kids are.

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Speaker 3: Excited about Yeah, leaves lots of chocolate eggs for people.

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Speaker 1: Because the exemption for Easter Bunny really big and ferry.

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Speaker 3: Taking a holiday is not a reason to leave home.

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Speaker 3: You cannot leave home. You cannot move around like that.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sorry that's a big no.

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Speaker 2: Note there's plenty of detail for the Easter Bunny. He'll

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Speaker 2: be washing his hands every time.

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Speaker 3: He'll be right. I don't think rabbits get it.

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Speaker 2: Rabbits, he's already got mixedaso. Hey, gladys, we know how

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Speaker 2: busy you are. We appreciate your time. You're on air

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Speaker 2: in about nine minutes, so thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: No, and can I say thank you to you guys

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Speaker 3: keeping people happy and engage is so important and you've

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Speaker 3: got a really important job. Thank you for what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Really appreciate it. You're the best. Thank yous in with