1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, Hi, you're so close to hearings. We're 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: one more week. But today we thought we would throw 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: it back to an episode that we had with our 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: manager Claudia. 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: On that was one of my favorite episodes to film. 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it was so nice. 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: We've just got her on talking about all things influencing 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 2: social media management and everything like that, how it is 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: to deal with us too on a daily. 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Basis, and how the industry works. I know we still 11 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: always get a lot of questions about it. So this 12 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: is answering it for you. So enjoy, enjoy, and we'll 13 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: see you sorry soon, miss you, miss you bye. 14 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: Like your name was big So I walked in to 15 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: cook Eye one day. Hi, give me bye job. 16 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: Can we be friends? Hello? 17 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 2: Welcome to Just for Girls. Coming to you from. 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: You the Sydney Studio. Our producers are actually up in Sydney, 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: so this might look a little different. It's a little 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: bit more high tech and a bit bigger. 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: Very profreshed. I'm sitting on the couch. Put it that way. 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: We can't for you today, and we've got a very 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: very special guest that's very close to our hearts. 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: I feel like she's she's not our third wheel. She 25 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: completes the trio. 26 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: It's a trio, it's not a duo and a one. 27 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: Guys, how I introduce yourself. 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: My name is Claudia. I am am the Girls manager 29 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: and one day dream and best. 30 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: Friend and best friend and sister and mom. 31 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 32 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: We've me and mom been sharing a bed for the 33 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: past two nights. Yeah, it's been amazing. 34 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 35 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 2: I like to sleep alone, so I tapped out of 36 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: that duo. 37 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 3: Their room service and my robe. 38 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: What were you watching last night? 39 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: All guys have found a new show I love. Oh, yes, 40 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: called Luther. It's not a a new show, but it's 41 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: like he's a detective. First season, Like every episode is 42 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: like a different crime. They're like fucked crimes, which is 43 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: like my kind of Yeah. 44 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: I need to get on that. 45 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: It's really interesting. What's it on, Sorry, it's on stand? 46 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm really happy to be here. Thanks for 47 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: having guys. 48 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: Very last minute, last minute, very nervous, as per anyone 49 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: would be nervous coming on a podcast. 50 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: Well this is my first podcast. Yeah, and normally you're 51 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: very good behind the camera, Like you love being behind 52 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: the computer, behind the mind. You don't like being in 53 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: the forefront. 54 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: But this is why I love my job. 55 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: I do what I do. 56 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 3: But know how special to be in your first podcast? 57 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 1: Thanks girl? 58 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 2: Oh wow on the day of the live show, So 59 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: finally tonight, Yeah a PM. 60 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: That's a few hours away, So we've got some hours 61 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: to and a lot to do, a lot of fucking 62 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: shit to do. But we'll think about that when it 63 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: comes close to But today on the podcast, we are 64 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: talking about how to get into social media how easy, 65 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: and I kind of fell into influencing. 66 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: By the way, creation where that we know it's an 67 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: icky word to pull ourselves influencers, but we like to 68 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: call them content creators. Let's start with that. 69 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but even talent, talent, yes, with no talent, yes, yeah, 70 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: no talent they don't really have any time, you know, 71 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: it's just a nicer word. Yeah, it makes me feel 72 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: or even if you're a super into interested in social media, 73 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: but you don't necessarily want to be an influencer. We're 74 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: coming from the talent management side, which is what Claudia, 75 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: what she kind of does in her role, how she 76 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: kind of approaches brands or how brands approach her to 77 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: then work with us, and how that whole system works 78 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of behind the scenes before you 79 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: guys see kind of the final product. 80 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: So even my friends don't even know what they I do. 81 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: They ask me all the time. They're like, so, what 82 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: what does it mean? 83 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, you've got a very full time job almost. 84 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: I find that you find it hard to switch off definitely, 85 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: Like our job isn't nine to five. Therefore, sometimes we 86 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: need you hours hours. 87 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: Which I don't mind because, like, you guys are my 88 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: best friend. So like I want to, you know, make 89 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: sure everything's going smooth. And like if I like go 90 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: to bed and I'm like, oh, I forgot to do this, 91 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: or like you know, I know that something to you 92 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: and I need to remind them, I will feel stressed. 93 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: So I need to like make sure it's all in line. 94 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: Sleep. 95 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: At the bottom line is we couldn't do what we're 96 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: doing without Claudia. No, she's like a calendar almost for us, 97 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, just like a support blanket 98 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: as well, completely and like a. 99 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: Little bit about sorry. Cordia has Easy and I. She 100 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: also has our friend Jasmine Hannah. She has Isabelle. 101 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 3: Petzul, Yeah, sam Izzy Hannah, shah Lana Isabelle and Jazz 102 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 3: and then the das Fields Potty as well. 103 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: So it's a full it's a she's got a full schedule. 104 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: Basically question of the week, girls, it's time for question. 105 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 2: Oh god, all right, this question of the meeting is 106 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: would you rather be more attractive or more intelligent? 107 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: Wow? 108 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: That's hard because they both have their perks. But I 109 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 3: feel like being really intelligent you could do amazing stuff 110 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: with your career. And then you know, there's a lot 111 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 3: of things out there these days. You can get fixed, 112 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: you can do you hey, you get work done. You know, 113 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 3: you can just go from a shopping spree. 114 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: So I feel like I'd. 115 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 3: Rather have the brains and then just fix myself up. 116 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: Fair. 117 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: What do you guys? 118 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: Does you probably have the money? If you're that brain exactly, 119 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: I will take the other out. Be yourself centered. I'd 120 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: rather be more attractive. 121 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: Really, I honestly think if I'm doing it from a 122 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: logistical perspective, I think it depends on your personality and 123 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: what you want to do. What you want to do, 124 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: because if I want to be like an astrologist, I'd 125 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: rather be more intelligent. But if I want to do 126 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: something in like if I have a personality of that's 127 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: like quite self centered and like I like to be 128 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: everything about me and I'm like a very outgoing person. 129 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: I'd like to be more attractive because then I can 130 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: have a job that's more outgoing and stuff like that. 131 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: If I'm talking about who I am right now, I'd 132 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: rather be more attractive. 133 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: True for your job, Yes, I think I'd rather just 134 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: sit in the middle and be smart and yeah looking, 135 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 3: that would be the ideal outcome. 136 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: So we've got attractive, attractive intelligence, yeah. 137 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: I think, but to borrow it's really hard. Yeah times 138 00:05:58,600 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: I get one time. 139 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: Right now, we're all attractive and intelligence, But. 140 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: I think it's really hard because when you are attractive, 141 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: people think you're dumb. I'm like, I don't I wouldn't 142 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: say I'm all that dumb. Like, yes, maybe I'm in 143 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: an industry that's like you don't have to be smart, 144 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: but like I did pretty well at school. I love 145 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: learning and stuff like that. So it's like everyone thinks 146 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm dumb, but I'm not dumb. 147 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 3: I know, I don't think you're dumbbe what was your attach? 148 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: Can we say that my toe was ninety? 149 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 3: She got a ninety, which is fantastic. 150 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: I think, let's just shout that out there. 151 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like I have nothing else to do when 152 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: year twelve but study. I think if I was, yeah, 153 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: I was in normal life and I because I turned 154 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: eighteen in May, so I would have gone out and 155 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: everything like that. But I had I didn't have that opportunity. 156 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: You could do a whole episode on literally school in 157 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: COVID and like you twelve, that would have been tough. 158 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: I'll get over the PTSD first and then I'll talk 159 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: about it. 160 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: I didn't do badly, but in saying that, I put 161 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: almost no effort in al I wasn't in a very 162 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: good mental space in your twelve. So I didn't go 163 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: to school much. I didn't do much. I didn't do badly. 164 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: I'm smart, I'm good. 165 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: Lookod looking at our babe. 166 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: Look, I'm not going to tell you she ship. 167 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that means nothing. Literally doesn't mean anything. I'm filming 168 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: myself for a living. 169 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: So alright, cord death throw me or we want entree 170 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: Maine dessert and drink. 171 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: My entree would be just something as simple as like 172 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: Kingfish Speja. I know that would be sound great, but 173 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: it's just the best ever Maine would be, of course, 174 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: sushi doubling. 175 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,559 Speaker 1: I just love Japanese food. 176 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: It's the best, so fair type anything like. 177 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: Like an assortment platter. 178 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, give me some sushimi, give me some gary have 179 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: just some noural roles. 180 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: What's your favorite fish? 181 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: Like salad? 182 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: Cook tuna, cook tuna with cucumber. 183 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're not rocking cook tuna at a nice restaurant. 184 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: You know that. 185 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm not true. 186 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: Well, just an assortment of everything that's fantastic. 187 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: It's not in a nice restaurant. She's in a jazz 188 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: well about to die the next day. 189 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: They're going to sushi, sushi. 190 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: Going to literally sushi. Shuh, you're going to sushi harb. 191 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: But I'm sitting on a sushi train and just living 192 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: life with a coconut. 193 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: So is that you drink a choice? 194 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: No, drink of choice, Yes, fresh coconut with it open 195 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: so I can stick in. 196 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: I just eat it. 197 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: It's so good and it's like another meal in itself, 198 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: like it's so. 199 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: Fresh, so amazing. 200 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: One's in Bali amazing. 201 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: And then my. 202 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: Dessert would honestly just be the connoisseur cookies and cream, ice. 203 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: Cream, sushi, sushi and connoisseur. 204 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: Please. The cookie bit in there is just it's unmatched. 205 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: I guess unmatched. 206 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: All right, so let's get into the juicy, nitty gritty. 207 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: Why don't we just how did you start doing what 208 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: you're doing right now? 209 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: I think maybe I'll start with just explaining a bit 210 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: about how I got into it, what I did for UNI. 211 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: I feel like girls who are starting that really intrigued 212 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: by that. 213 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: So I literally finished school. 214 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: I turned to my mum and I was like, Mom, 215 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know what I want to do, 216 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: like if everyone nears what they want to do. And 217 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: she was like, I feel like you'd be really good 218 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 3: at something called like public relations. And I was like cool, great, 219 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: applied for a course. 220 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: I got into it. I was like, great, MoMA's mom 221 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: knows me. 222 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 3: Your mum's know you. 223 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: And I was like, I'll just give it a go. 224 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: See how I go. 225 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,599 Speaker 3: My sister did something bit similar called HR. Anyways, I 226 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 3: did PR. 227 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: By the way, she has an identical twin sister, Lucia, 228 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: who owns. 229 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: With harpl Yes in case you're confused. 230 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: Bit of background that's helped me. That's my gorgeous. 231 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: Twin sister and also my beautiful Mom's felt on the 232 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 3: other on the other back end everything. 233 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: The living legend she is. Of course, she tells. 234 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: Me what I want to do and you're like done, mom. 235 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, great, life sorted. 236 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: So I gave her a go, did that, finish that course, 237 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 3: and then did a couple of internships like at AMPR 238 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: and just other peer agencies. Then fell into like One 239 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: day Dream straight away, like I think six months I 240 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 3: finished and I was like, great, pro. 241 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: How I am, let's go. 242 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: One day Dream is where we all are now? 243 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: Yes, One day Dream. It was a peer age. 244 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: See when I first started, and they did a little 245 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: bit of talent and then probably the last year and 246 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 3: a half they've changed and done. They're just all talent, 247 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: scisive talent, yeah, which is fantastic. And worked there for 248 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 3: probably like a year and a half just doing a 249 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 3: lot of pr social, just a bit of random kind 250 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: of everywhere jobs and then prove my boss. She came 251 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 3: to me and she was like I've got this idea, 252 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 3: like I want to start this kind of TikTok division, 253 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: the Dream the Dream Team. 254 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: They're like, let's let's give it. Let's give it a go. 255 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 3: She's like, do you think you can do this, And 256 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: I was like, yes, great, like amazing, let's give it 257 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: a go. And my sister obviously working in the fashion industry, 258 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: she had a lot of connections I feel like anyway, 259 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: so she kind of, you know, especially in the gen 260 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 3: Z space, so she could really just kind of I 261 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: could lean in her and be like, what do you think, 262 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 3: who's good who's not? 263 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: You know, like who's on the radar? Mom? Actually who's 264 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: on the radar? Because who was working with social media 265 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: and like management represent like people who represent talent and 266 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: influencers and stuff like that is heavily based in Sydney, 267 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: And because we're based in mob and didn't you want 268 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: to have a bit of a Melbourne based team that 269 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,119 Speaker 1: was like who's in the radar? In exclusive? 270 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 3: I felt like that was really missing for Melbourne, especially 271 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: in completely that age group, Like I feel like it's 272 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: definitely there with the older audiences, definitely there in Sydney, 273 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: but I. 274 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: Feel like it was missing. 275 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: So I was like, great, I'm literally just gonna round 276 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: up like the best talent I could. 277 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: And I went hard. 278 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: I already knew Easy. Actually we knew each other from school. 279 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: We didn't go the same school, but I'm friends with 280 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: the sister. 281 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: And my best friend Allegra, her older sister was really 282 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: close to the Laudia. Yes, so the way it started 283 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: for us, this bit reached out to me. What not 284 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: even on Instagram because. 285 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: You were you were just started posting at that point, and. 286 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: I was like, we're doing like addicted little halls. 287 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: Oh, don't even get me, Sata. No. We I posted 288 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: trending videos that did like really well, and I only 289 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: had seven thousand followers maybe at this point nothing and 290 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: all I was like to I was like because she 291 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: came in and she was like, oh my god, I 292 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: feel like so special, like I'm so happy to be 293 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: why A, Like, why me? I think you were like 294 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: one of the first people we sawed I signed in 295 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: my team, and I was like, trust me, Like I 296 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: know you've only got like a very small following, but 297 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 2: I was like I can see the potential, like people 298 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 2: love you, people want to work with you. 299 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: And then now look at you, baby, You've got like 300 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: you know, adik. 301 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 3: Eadie k something I've seventy k on Instagram whatever, but like, 302 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: you know, it's sick, You've just grown. 303 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: I'm looking mu. 304 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: It was fantastic And then I used TikTok and I 305 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: had been following Sam for a while, both me and 306 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 3: my sister. I don't know if you had you worked 307 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: with Harpolou or like why Actually. 308 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: This is how I connected with Q and A on 309 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: my Instagram on so it was like a dream brand 310 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: to work with. And I tagged with Harfulu, Oh my god, 311 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: and she was like, I'd love to say anything, and 312 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: she sent me like I think she sent me a 313 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: little black skirt or something like that. And it's like 314 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: my dream come true. Because I was kind of in 315 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: social media at the time, but I had a manager 316 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: in Sydney that wasn't a very great relationship. Again, she 317 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: was Sydney. I'd ever met her, so we didn't really 318 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: have like a very close bond. So I've had a 319 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: bit of a sour taste towards management. And I didn't 320 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: really think I would take social media seriously. I was 321 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: just like posting for a little Funsie. I had like 322 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: twenty thirty k on TikTok, and I was pretty small 323 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: on Instagram, like I wasn't posting anything for like brand 324 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: deals or anything like that. I was just posting for fun. 325 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: But same with you, I was like I can just 326 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: see the potential. Yeah, and as soon as I met you, 327 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: like we clicked the crew as well, like I was like, yeah. 328 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: This is it. 329 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 3: And then from there like I had a team of 330 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: five and it's just like, you know, blown up ever since, 331 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: which has been fantastic, Like I work with them obviously 332 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: every day and it's just like fantastic. Like it's literally said, 333 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 3: everyone is like having techs. 334 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: Do not disturb purely to avoid messages from this woman. 335 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: I oh, this girls starts at eight thirty in the morning, 336 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: and you've got a text by eight thirty twos and 337 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: I finished a five thirty guys, so don't worry. 338 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, getting on a plane to Sydney. Been up since four. 339 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: I am get off the plane. D D. I'm like, wait, guys, 340 00:13:58,520 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: it's a fucking Saturday. 341 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: Leaving alone. Message you on the weekends, do I It 342 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: must have been personally though, yeah, Like I send me 343 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: a photo of like you were to beer with your friends. Yeah, 344 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: like happy weekend. 345 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, go girl, because I don't want to just 346 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: talk to you guys at work, like we want to 347 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 3: have a relationship. I think that's half for fun, like 348 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 3: you know, knowing about your lives and I feel like 349 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: so many of our friends now intertwined and it's so fun, 350 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: like how that has kind of happened. 351 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is easier again because it's all the same 352 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: age and like Melbourne's very like years older. Yeah, you're 353 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: a couple of years old. You've been at my mum. 354 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: But Melbourne's very connection based, so it's like there's no 355 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: way of just escaping you as like your work things, 356 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: it's like it's not going of long. And we're also 357 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: lucky as well, like our knew Jazz before we were signed. 358 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: I knew Hannah before we were signed and everything like that, 359 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: So we were all friends before. 360 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: Except the dynamic door over here. 361 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's kind of one day dream really kind 362 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: of brought us together. Like we messaged on Instagram a 363 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: few times once, but I was like fuck scared of Easy, 364 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: Like I was like so intimidated by her. Easy was 365 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: always kind of the one because she's a few years 366 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: older than me and she went to the same school. Again, 367 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: we're in the same area. It's like the one that 368 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: like you always know of Easy armitage and it's like 369 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: don't fuck with her. It's a bit like, yeah, it 370 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: was a bit like everyone kind of knew of your name, 371 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: and it was like, why is she messaging me? Like 372 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: what the fuck? And I was like scared because you 373 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: had quite a big reputation. 374 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: It was to be a bit. 375 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: No, you just had a big reputation on the social scene, 376 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: Like your name was big. 377 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: So when I waltz in to cook Eye one. 378 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: Day, Hi, give me by job? Can we be friends? 379 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: And she's like, this girl is not what I thought 380 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: you'd be. 381 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the two what I wanted though, Like 382 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: I wanted everyone to be friends. I wanted like because 383 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 3: this industry is super intense, and I know how like 384 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: you know, everyone's so young, and it just can get 385 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: a lot and I know that when you have someone 386 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: you can lean on and work with and do jobs together, like, 387 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: it makes it so much more fun. 388 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, going to an event like they didn't have 389 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: really anyone that you knew, it's like you probably wouldn't 390 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,239 Speaker 2: go to that event, yet it would be really beneficial 391 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: for you too. 392 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 393 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: So it's like even just knowing events are so much 394 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: more fun now for us because we do have a 395 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: little circle of people that we know. So obviously we 396 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: understand some girls that wouldn't, but it's always an event, 397 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: so you just try and be like as welcoming and 398 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: friendly as you can, because some people are there on 399 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: their own and they've made that step to yeah. 400 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: Get there. 401 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: So that would definitely be advice for someone like as 402 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: in just kind of team up with another person who's 403 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 3: on the same page with you and want to do 404 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: the same things, and you can go to events together, 405 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: you can shoot content together, like it just makes it just. 406 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: Reach O rise. And sometimes even if you're like invited 407 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: to an event and you feel like you're a small 408 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: influencer or if you've been invited, sometimes you can even 409 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: ask for a guest list and then you can message 410 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: them on Instagram. I remember I used to do it 411 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: and be like, hey, like, are there any a few 412 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: girls around my age group that are going? And it 413 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: could be like, Yep, this person's going, and if you 414 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: follow them on Instagram or something, you'd be like, hey, 415 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: do you want to go to this event together? Like 416 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: come to mind before and we can go. 417 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: It's not uncommon, yeah, like girls to do that, so 418 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: it's like you. 419 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: Bond over not knowing together. It's like a bit like. 420 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 3: It's in the same boat, like Yeah, it's human. Everyone's 421 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: got feelings, everyone's got anxiety. 422 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: Like it's scary, scary. I remember the Verst East event 423 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: I went to. It was for Cosmetic Avenue, which is 424 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: like fillers and stuff, and we the first event, you 425 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 2: went too quietly, Yeah, whatever, my lip filler game. But Sam, 426 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: Jazz Tavaras, Alana Galtieri and I all met beforehand at 427 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 2: a bar and I'd never met Jazz, never met Alana. 428 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: Sam and I had only known each other for a 429 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: couple of weeks maybe, and that was obviously really scary. 430 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: And then we go to an event and you kind 431 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 2: of see a lot of faces that you may recognize, 432 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: but god, it's it's all very I'm a socially anxious person, 433 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: so maybe I don't want to like co it's so 434 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: fucking scary and scary. All of you guys, you warm 435 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: up to it really quickly. 436 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 3: Can You got to do it at the start, and 437 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: even now, like you guys still you know, go to 438 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 3: the events and make sure you have someone to go with. 439 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: Like if I went to an event last week and 440 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: I was with Hannah del Sasso, and like Hannah was 441 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: like the only other person I so we did feel 442 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: a little bit like a fish out of water. 443 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: There feels like if you shatter water everyone. I went 444 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: to a frank body breakfast by myself, like I rocked 445 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: up by myself, And to be fair, like I was 446 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: probably a heat people rocked up by theirselves, and I 447 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: was probably one of the people who, like someone knew 448 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: I was probably gonna come with, and I rocked up 449 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: by myself. I saw one person I knew of their face. 450 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: I literally walked up to their mouth, was like, hey, 451 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: like we had met each other for like fifteen minutes before, 452 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: and we en. She was like, oh my god, so 453 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: glad you're here. Like I'm the only person that I 454 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: don't know anybody else. I was like me either, and 455 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: we hung out the whole time and it was like 456 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: we were best friends for that event. 457 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 3: You've just got to think, like, whatever you're feeling and thinking, 458 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 3: the person seeming feeling the exactly the same thing. So 459 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 3: that'll make you feel better. But anyways, it's a year 460 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 3: and a half later, nour isn't. 461 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: That you guys have been with me and a bit. 462 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: It's it feels like a bit in my life. 463 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like it's going to be a lifetime, 464 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 3: so very happy with the outcome. And it's I honestly 465 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 3: like say all the time to like, you know, my 466 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 3: family and my friends. I'm like, I just it's so 467 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: weird this is my job because it doesn't feel like 468 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 3: a job. And I feel like that's what anyone should 469 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 3: strive to do, is like, you know, not feel like 470 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 3: you're working, but you're working. You know, that's just the 471 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 3: best way to be. I love it because I loved 472 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 3: you guys, and I want to see you just keep 473 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: succeeding and doing well and I see so much potential 474 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: and I just feel so grateful, you know, to have 475 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: the team that I do and work with the people 476 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: I do every day, like every you know, brand or agency, 477 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 3: like everyone I meet is just amazing. And I'm like, 478 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 3: I'm just so lucky. 479 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: So I think people would be interested to hear about, 480 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: like what goes on in your everyday life. Obviously people 481 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: see the end result of like brand deals and how 482 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: we've uploaded that, but you're kind of the brains and 483 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,239 Speaker 1: the leader almost behind it. How does that work? What 484 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: does your job look like? 485 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: I feel like this is my experience of talent management. 486 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 3: Maybe others are different because I'm super involved in you know, 487 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 3: your lives. That's why I've only got eightes. I really 488 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 3: just want to you. 489 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: Know, hone in on that relationship. 490 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: But day of course starts with checking the emails, you know, 491 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 3: responding to the girls if they've messaged to me after house, 492 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: which is me always yeah, yeah, because easy works from 493 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 3: like eight o'clock. 494 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: I work at PMO is when I. 495 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: Like, you do your babe. 496 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 3: We also try catch up with heaps of brands, heaps 497 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: of agencies, like you know, during the week, so there 498 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: may be a meeting or coffee date. I also try 499 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: catch up with my talent as well. 500 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: Have these things called whip meeting with the work in 501 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: progress meeting, where like maybe you have it once a week, 502 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: once every two weeks, sometimes once a month. It depends 503 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: on how the year works, so the year works as 504 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: not like January to December. It kind of works as 505 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: of the financial year, so June July kind of really quiet. 506 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: But when it picks up towards the end of year 507 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: like Christmas November, you're packed up busy with events. Heaps 508 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: of work keeps a brands investing a lot of their budget, 509 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: so they have a marketing budget that they invest in 510 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: influences for work and paid collapse, which that's what Claudia manages. 511 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: So she'll be having meetings with her talent quite often 512 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: and we'll be like, all right, this is what you've 513 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: got to get done in the next two weeks. How 514 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: are you going to go about it? Yeah? We days. Yeah, 515 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: So it's like, all right, Wednesday, your carpet sponsorship is 516 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: do you can you have that to me by Wednesday? 517 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: Have you got the product? How does that all work? 518 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 2: So, for example, a brand's message going to hey, I'd 519 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: like to work with Izzy and Sam. 520 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you doing for Yeah, So a brand 521 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: will come to me. They might give me a budget, 522 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 3: or they might just come with you know, the scope 523 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 3: of work, what deliverables they're wanting, or they might just say, hey, 524 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 3: we have this random idea. You know, what do they 525 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 3: think about it? Are they interested in working with us? 526 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 3: And what's kind of their schedule like for the next 527 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: two weeks. 528 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: So deliverables if people don't understand deliverables is like a 529 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: brand might go we want one TikTok from Sam an 530 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: ig story set from Easy, or we want a TikTok 531 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: and story set, or we want a TikTok ig and 532 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: a story set. They come in bundles. So then then 533 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: reply and be like, hey, all right, for a TikTok 534 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: story set, this is how much they sam costs, and 535 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: this is how much easy costs. Yeah, rates depend on 536 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: very based on who you are, your engagement, you're following 537 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: your analytics. 538 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the job can be you know as big 539 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: as like just like one story set or one TikTok 540 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 3: or it could be like a you know, three to 541 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: six month deal where you know, if it's a brand 542 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: that the girls really align with and they love, then 543 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 3: it can be something that can be signed off ongoing 544 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: as ongoing and if they've you know, some brands might say, hey, 545 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 3: let's just do like an initial kind of partnership and. 546 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: Then we'll see how it goes. 547 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 3: If you know, their audience is super engaged and they're 548 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: loving it, then we'll go great, we'll sign off another 549 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 3: like six months, which is fantastic. 550 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: That's like the end goal. Yeah. It is like when 551 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: you especially when you start off in social media, it 552 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: is kind of like a one off basis. It's like 553 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: brands kind of see your GISs, how you create content 554 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: and how yeah, your audience reacts to it. But as 555 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: you get a little bit more known in the social 556 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: media scheme, you start to sign on bigger deals for 557 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,239 Speaker 1: longer periods of time, and that's probably where you want 558 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: to end up basing your content around is like building 559 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: brand relationships. And that's where Cordy is really big involved, 560 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: is like pitching us and like keeping that relationship. 561 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 3: We're saying, you know, if the content's late, I'm like, great, well, 562 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 3: I'll just make sure that that's managed, you know, from 563 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 3: the client's expectations as well. Because and it's also fantastic 564 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 3: when the girls work with you know, a brand for 565 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: a long period of time because I can have that 566 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: you know, ongoing relationship too, So it's fantastic in that sense. 567 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 3: And it's i mean, it's so hard to explain, like, 568 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: you know, how kind of the job from end, but 569 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 3: I'm literally managing from the minute we start talking about 570 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 3: the deal to negotiating to Okay, great, now here's the brief, 571 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: which could be to one to twenty pages. 572 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: So she'll send us through a document basically that tells 573 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: us things that we need to say, the way they 574 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: want us to look, where it needs to. 575 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 3: Be static of the video, their vibe yep, and they 576 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: know to have the campaign dates, have the approval days, 577 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: and then I work back with the girls on making 578 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: sure they're sure they execute that properly, making sure that 579 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 3: they like the concept. Because we can also go back 580 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: and say, hey, you know, we think this would really 581 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 3: suit instead, or I have a better idea of kind 582 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 3: of like how it would suit better with my channel. 583 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: Claudia is like a big advocate for both sides. She's 584 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: like an awkward middleman that she has to make the 585 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: client happy, but she also has to make her talent happy. 586 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: So if a brand came to me that I really 587 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: want to work with, because we get to pick and choose, obviously, 588 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: like Claudia is not going to be like you have 589 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: this this much money and you have to do it 590 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: Like now, I'll turn around and be like no, I 591 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: don't want to work with that brand, and she's like okay, cool. 592 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: But then if the brand that we said yes that 593 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: we want to work with them come to us with 594 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: a brief that we don't necessarily like or align with, 595 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: Claudia then goes back to the brand and is like 596 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: Sam doesn't really do voiceovers. For example, she likes to 597 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: talk through her videos. Is that something that you guys 598 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: are okay with? So it's like there's a lot of 599 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: back and forth, like the email threads on Claudia's last 600 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: Yeah is like give me anxiety. 601 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 3: So much back and forth and like nine times out 602 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 3: of ten, like a brand is so happy to alter 603 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: it and amend it because they want they want it 604 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: to perform. They want the girls to enjoy the content 605 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 3: and you know. 606 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: Be excited to create it. And I think that really. 607 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 3: Shows when you guys have that flexibility and control in 608 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 3: the brief, And I think there goes with any influence. 609 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 2: Videos do better if it's more more to our channel. 610 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: I think that shows and. 611 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: Brands know that. And it's also nice when it's like 612 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: a brand has come to you and they trust you 613 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: and they like your content. They're not kind of putting 614 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: you in a corner and go, yeah, make a video 615 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: for our brand and like exactly exactly how we want it, 616 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: because it's like, all right, then why'd you pick me? Yeah? 617 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? 618 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: Anyone could have done that. Yeah. 619 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 3: So that I manage the job, I get the content 620 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 3: from the girls, make sure that they follow the brief 621 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: properly as well. 622 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 2: Oh, you miss this, do it again. 623 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: She'll be like, I'm like, you can read the brief. 624 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: They really wanted a voice overhaul and. 625 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 3: You're like yeah, I'm like, you're gonna have to refill that. 626 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: And it's just like just sending it in. They might 627 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: like it, but you haven't done briefs. They're very helpful, 628 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: but like they helpful. 629 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: I completely ignored them at the start, but now I 630 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: like follow the brief to be like they're there for 631 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: a reason. 632 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: They are very specific words that you know, like pronunciation 633 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: even like I got something off pronunciation wise, and they're like, 634 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: nuh needs to be out. 635 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 3: But this is definitely like only like half of you know, 636 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: half the jobs, Like a lot of brands will give 637 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 3: you know, the girls the flexibility to just create what 638 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 3: they want and just work together and have that relationship. 639 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 3: And and I think even with bread with briefs as well, 640 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 3: like all of my talent puts such a different twist 641 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: on them. 642 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: So it's so interesting. 643 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah if like, you know, I've got three talent working 644 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 3: on the same campaign, but they all produce completely different videos. 645 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: So basically Sam's creative in mind's is how we know 646 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 2: I know. 647 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: Okay, So like for example, if Easy and I have 648 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: a deal together obviously because we have just for girls, 649 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: sometimes brands will come to us and be like we 650 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: want a real on Sam's page and we want an 651 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: ig story or a TikTok on. Yeah, we page a 652 00:26:59,359 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: lot of. 653 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 2: Due deals these days, which is amazing. 654 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: Which is great because it's like we get to work 655 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: and create content together. Because sometimes influencing and people who 656 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: don't really have a duo dynamic, it can get quite 657 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: lonely just film and content in your house all day. 658 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: That's why we're so lucky that we have a really 659 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: close relationship with our manager because we get to going 660 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: to do things together. We get to share how good 661 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: is that? 662 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: How good? 663 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? But like I will probably nine times out of ten, 664 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: I will probably come up with a creative content concept. 665 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: I do have a more of a creative brain. I 666 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: know that about Easy and I I like, Easy will 667 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: kind of just be like, let's get in the gamma 668 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: and filmat I'm like, let's add a little bit. 669 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: I think it sounds like I'm like my content so 670 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: worrying is just different. I can't right now think of 671 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: what I'm like. 672 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: Let's like, let's think of how we can do it differently, Like, 673 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: for example, he's really good at rolling with the punches 674 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: and it just works. Yes, And he's also really good 675 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: at naily like how to speak to the camera. I 676 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: fucking talk to a camera now, I fuck it up 677 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: so bad, Like I can't get sentences right. I really 678 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: struggle with that. So I'm like, I can get the 679 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: camera angles, I can film it if I come up 680 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: with a creative concept. Easy, you're really good, please say 681 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: this sentence kind of ye, like she so naturally. Yeah, 682 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: she just needs a bit more direction when it comes 683 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: to the creative control, which is what I take, and 684 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: then Easy kind of takes. 685 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 2: Like the creativity is something that's so hard to build, 686 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: which is fine, basically insane. You can be in this 687 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: job without being created. I'm totally going to have a 688 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: creative bone in my body. But I think the more 689 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: natural content for me always has better. Like if I'm 690 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: literally just cooking my dinner and just talking, it's like, yeah, 691 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: that does amazing. They may not be the most aesthetic 692 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: videos in the world, but I think people like watching 693 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,239 Speaker 2: me just myself totally. So if you're not creative at 694 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: all and you're concerned, like you may not be able 695 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: to make like I can't take an aesthetic photo to 696 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: save my life. You can still be in this job 697 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: and world and be very successful at it without having 698 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: that yes so completely. 699 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: It might be really good at like you know, taking 700 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: photos of you know, a house or like you know. 701 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: Filming vlogs. 702 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: Like people might like you for that reason. Everyone has 703 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: a different niche. People just they want to see genuine authenticity. 704 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 3: They also want to see humor. I don't think understuter 705 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 3: how important humor is, humors how important it's hard, but 706 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: like you need to make people laugh and just like 707 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 3: not take it too seriously. 708 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: I think being like completely authentic also just comes with 709 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: a bit more humor than yes, you know, because like 710 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: I'm not we're not comedians out here. 711 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: But people probably laugh at you being like she's so funny. 712 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: That girl, Oh that would be nice. 713 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure they do. 714 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: Sam, I love you all the time with your videos 715 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: with k lob and just like pranking people like it 716 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: is so funny. 717 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: So people like don't even understand Katla fucking loves being 718 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: in my videos, guys, he actually does. He pretends he 719 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: loves it. He loves the limelight. And he also asked 720 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: to be in my videos. I'm literally framing him right now. 721 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: But it's like Claudia loves it. Claudia. Because before you 722 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: upload a sponsored video as well, you have to send 723 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: it to audio. So I'll film a video for my 724 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: carpet brand. I'll be like, this is my new carpet. 725 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: I love it. Maybe it's an unboxing or something like that. 726 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: I edit it, I have to send it to Claudia. 727 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: Claudia has to send it to the brand. That's why 728 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: you're uploading it live, because you could say like fuck bitch, 729 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: and the brand's like, oh, we didn't want swearing in it, 730 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: so then you yeah, have to edit that. 731 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 3: Or you could be wearing just like a competing brand, 732 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 3: and it's just you know, there's so many things, but 733 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 3: it comes to me. I check it first to make 734 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: sure the lines of the brief. If I think it's 735 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 3: all good, I'll send it to the client with the caption. 736 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: A lot of like you could get a reshoo. Though 737 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: they're like, that's not exactly how I envisioned it. They're 738 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: quite good with change this, this, and this, like it'll 739 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: be listed out for you what you need. 740 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: So straightforward, and then you just smash the next one 741 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 3: and then you know. 742 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: Normally, sometimes it's like a few edits like a little 743 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: bit adjustable, Like we think the video is too long, 744 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: can she cut out from thirty seconds to thirty seven seconds? 745 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: We don't believe what she said really brings a lot 746 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: to this video, and you make it like that. But 747 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: sometimes brands can come back with completely different feedback. Then 748 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: we want to set in the brief and that's when 749 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: Cornea has to go. You actually didn't mention that. 750 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 3: So it's important a nice way, but I just I've 751 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 3: always go to make sure the client's happy, but also 752 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 3: make sure the girls are happy as well. 753 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: You have to reshoot things. 754 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: That's life. 755 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: Where it might be they could end up coming back 756 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: like three or four times and it has to be 757 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: a redone every single time. Then it's like we want. 758 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 3: To keep that relationship with the brand though, So it is. 759 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: What it is. 760 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: It can be sometimes though, like you haven't mentioned any 761 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: of this. Maybe sometimes I don't think this is actually 762 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: comes as lash, but you may have to pay for 763 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: a bit of extra time, yeah, because they've done so 764 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: many reshoots. 765 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 3: Yes, And if I generally think that you know you've 766 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 3: perfected the brief and you know it, it could be 767 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 3: a fault from there and then they've maybe changed their 768 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 3: vision halfway through. That is definitely something you know, you. 769 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: Could look at. 770 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, so then I have to also manage when 771 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 3: it's going to be posted. So this I've got to 772 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 3: make sure I'm all across their schedules, what's coming up 773 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: in personal life. I've added in two dates for two 774 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 3: dates because they have to hit targets. They might have 775 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 3: a sale or a campaign that they have to make 776 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 3: sure it fits into, so that has to be managed 777 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 3: and then it's live. And then from when it's live, 778 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 3: it maybe sitting out, you know, on the platform for 779 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: one to two weeks, I have to get insights. They 780 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 3: have to review that for their campaign. 781 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: Insights being how many likes, how much, how many. 782 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 3: Audience analytics from the back end, which is super important 783 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 3: to you know, see the success of the campaign or 784 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 3: see if it aligned, you know, because that could mean 785 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 3: you know, keep working together, or you know, you sold 786 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 3: the product, or you know, it just tells you so 787 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: many things about it, which is the most important thing 788 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 3: of the job totally. 789 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: And would you say when someone's trying to start out 790 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: or someone's trying to get into the industry, Like what 791 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: would be your main tips or like things to look 792 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: out for. Like when I started, I didn't really know 793 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: about like insights and analytics and stuff like that. Can 794 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: you explain like what, as probably as a brand manager 795 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: that you're looking for if someone's wanting to be picked 796 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: up by management or as someone like maybe as a 797 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: brand who's approaching you, what do you look for? What's 798 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: really good so girls can kind of read and understand 799 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: what their analytics and audience is like. 800 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 3: So it of course depends on like the brand and 801 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 3: one like who they wanting to target to, like what 802 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 3: it is where they are, like if they're in Australia, 803 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 3: if they're overseas. For instance, if it's a brand like 804 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: sunscreen brand, Yeah, a sunscreen brand, and you know they 805 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 3: want to try sell this product to you know, eighteen 806 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 3: to twenty four year olds, of course, we you know, 807 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 3: want to make sure that your insights are going to 808 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 3: align with that. So if just say, you know, talent's 809 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 3: coming to us, my agency is really good for having 810 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: you know that like long spread of diversity, yeah, just 811 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: age group, so that we can always alter what a 812 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: brand needs, like the client's need. So if say they 813 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 3: want to work with someone who's in that eighteen to 814 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 3: twenty four year old bracket that have like an eighty 815 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 3: percent audience in Australia, we've got that, you know. Or 816 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 3: if they want to work with someone who's you know, 817 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: a mom and you know, targets that audience and we've 818 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 3: got that as well. So it's just making sure, I 819 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 3: think that you just need to know who who you're 820 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 3: wanting to target, Yeah, and just run with that and 821 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 3: really stick to it and have a niche because you 822 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 3: don't want to just be dipping into everything. You want 823 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 3: to really focus on one thing, one audience. 824 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: Like for example, my audience is female dominant from age 825 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty four, So I'm not probably going to 826 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: promote a male based first of all, a male based 827 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: brand or probably someone who's wanting to channel something for 828 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: moms or older women or something like that. I'm probably 829 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: channeling in my age bracket for women or for a 830 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: couple because I am in a relationship. So someone when 831 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: they know that, like a lot of brands, can see 832 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: that my relationship does really well and my relationship's public, 833 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: so sometimes they'll ask for Caleb to get into it, 834 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: or they'll they know that I'm with Easy, so they 835 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: will want Easy in the video, but they're mostly targeting 836 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: My brand is eighteen to twenty four. So if they 837 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: wanted to get into that market, they'll hit Easy an 838 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: eye up, or if they wanting to get a mom, 839 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: they'll go to another person. 840 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 841 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 3: I think that people forget when you're starting up, especially 842 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: it's so important to make sure that you have such 843 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 3: a strong especially if you're like a girl or you know, 844 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 3: a guy. Make sure you have that same gender audience. 845 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 3: It's so important and it's so hard to change around. 846 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: And i'd say mainly Aussies, Australian perfect audience. 847 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, if that's what you're wanting to do, you know, 848 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 3: if you really wanted to work in Australia, like we're 849 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 3: just saying, you know, Australians females, make sure you've got 850 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 3: a strong female audience. Make sure they're engaging with you, 851 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 3: make sure that you know they're in Australia. Because some 852 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 3: people like have an audience that's like from the UK 853 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 3: or like a small little city in France, and I'm like, what, 854 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 3: Like a brand's not going to want to target them. 855 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: It's for example, if you have ten thousand followers. If 856 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: you have ten k on TikTok, but eighty percent of 857 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: that is male, that means you're only pitching two really 858 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: a brand with two thousand female audiences, So they're kind 859 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 1: of sitting there being like, well, we don't really want 860 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: to go with you when we could go to somebody 861 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: else with ten k that has eighty percent female audience. 862 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: So that's reading reaching eight thousand people. So it's kind 863 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: of like, if you look at it from a brand perspective, 864 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: if you really wanted to target a female audience really 865 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 1: kind of make female based content contents and makeup videos. 866 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 3: You can change it around easily, like not easily, but 867 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 3: it takes time. But if you're starting up, make sure 868 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 3: that's something you really focus on. But it can always 869 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 3: be changing, or you can start again, I guess to 870 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 3: say that more bikini based. 871 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,439 Speaker 1: Store, you know, revealing out or really you. 872 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 2: Know, you might be beautiful, so just by default a 873 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: lot of guys see you. 874 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 1: That might brain in a lot of followers, but maybe 875 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 1: not the right one. 876 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 2: But so it's like maybe then just start posting a 877 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 2: couple of vlogs and more like personality things. It sucks 878 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 2: to say, but like more girls will then probably jump 879 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 2: on board with the audio as well. 880 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: So which is that's how times are changing in social 881 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: media as well. Like back when Easy and I were 882 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: probably young teenagers, it was very like aesthetic based, Oh 883 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: my god, that girl's beautiful, like she looks insane, But 884 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: now it's kind of like girls, I'm moving away from that. 885 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: They want to know you. So it's like, if you're 886 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: wanting to get into influencing stuff like that, probably strained 887 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: away from like revealing and kind of sexual photos video. Yeah, 888 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 1: like don't, like it's so hard and like I can 889 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: even catch myself doing it when I'm on holidays, Like 890 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: I love getting a bikini picture and I love that 891 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: like that, but that doesn't engage well with my female audience. 892 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: And I know that, but it's hard not to. And 893 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: I know that you love taking photos in bikinis and 894 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: stuff like that, but it's not giving you don't the 895 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: right engagement. 896 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 897 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 3: No. The first thing I literally asked someone when they 898 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 3: come in to like, you know, have a meeting with me, 899 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 3: I'm like, who do you like watching and why do 900 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 3: you like watching them? 901 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:55,959 Speaker 1: Nine times out of ten. 902 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 3: They're always like, you know, I love this female because 903 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 3: I literally feel like I'm a best friend and I'm 904 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 3: in her life and you know, with her all the 905 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 3: way with her relationship problems or in a relationship and 906 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 3: now she's married, and like, you know, I'm obsessed with 907 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 3: her fashion because she takes me through the outfits. Like 908 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 3: you literally just answer your own question by saying that 909 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 3: you want to watch those people. 910 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 2: That's what you need to pass. Yeah, honestly, I'd say 911 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 2: nine and a half times out of ten, a video 912 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: of you talking is going to do better than a 913 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: video of you, Like I love myself a good transition 914 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: video because I like looking back at them. 915 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: Videos. 916 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: I can put so much bloody effort into it and 917 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 2: then me just making a bowl of pasta will do 918 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 2: ten times better because I'm. 919 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: Pre speaking, do you know what I mean? Who do 920 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: you look up to in the industry? Like who are you? Like? 921 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with her? 922 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 3: I mean it's so hard because I obviously have to 923 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,479 Speaker 3: stalk my talent like forty five times a day even 924 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 3: more actually so I feel like when I get home 925 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 3: from work, I just like switching off. 926 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: But I watch like a lot. 927 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 3: Of people overseas for like those their fashion chips, you know, 928 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 3: like you like Philippa Philip I love Naomi Naomi. 929 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 2: There's a lot of like aesthetic European girls that dress 930 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 2: like love that, Like. 931 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 3: That's who I love watching because you're just like. 932 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: Their fashion. 933 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 3: But then I love watching you girls and people you 934 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 3: know in this kind of GenZ space for they're just 935 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 3: like funny relative videos. 936 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 2: We're moving out of the aesthetic and we're moving towards 937 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 2: the people just want to see you completely, yeah, yourself, 938 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 2: So start posting videos of you when you make up in. 939 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: The morning, and like if you want to start and 940 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: like you really want to be serious in it easy 941 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: and I can't really give you any tips because it 942 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: luckily it did kind of fall into place. And then 943 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: we kind of played off that and it was like, 944 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: all right, we kind of have done well in this. 945 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: Can we make it a full time job? And this 946 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: time kind of last year that's when I was like, oh, 947 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: I can kind of make it a full time job. 948 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: I'm not owning consistent enough money, but I can cook myself. 949 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: And it's what Claudia said. She was like, if you 950 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: quit kokai and those four days that you're working, you 951 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: can put into social media. You don't know how that 952 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: that's gonna it could really work out for you, and 953 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: it did, so it's like all right when you put 954 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: in that effort. And it's a big thing in Australia 955 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: where it's like it's embarrassing to want to try. I 956 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: saw this video where it's like definitely it's a big 957 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: taboo in Australia. It's like, I really want to do 958 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 1: this and I'm going to get really good at it. 959 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: It's like a big thing in society or it's like, oh, 960 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: that's like cringe or like looks like you're trying but 961 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Like if you're worried about that, a lot 962 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 1: of people think comments of you, thinking that anything that 963 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: made trigger you. 964 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 2: That's easy to say. Who cares what people think? I 965 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,919 Speaker 2: know when I started out, it's like there's that little 966 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 2: thing in the back of my head, like girls from 967 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 2: school or stuff that I didn't really like. I'm going 968 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 2: h they're probably like cringing right now, But now it's 969 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 2: like now I don't give. 970 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: A fuck a living out of it. 971 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 2: You totally understand the scariness at the beginning of worrying 972 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 2: about judgment, and it's like, to be honest, the judgment 973 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 2: usually just comes from people to kind of wish they 974 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 2: would jealousy. 975 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: So of the girls and the things that I do 976 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 1: is like a lot of the girls that have spoke 977 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: I've heard that have spoken about me and like said 978 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 1: some pretty nasty shit also make TikTok videos. 979 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 2: That's the something that happens to me. Yeah, posting the 980 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 2: same muddy video as me, and you're judging me. 981 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 1: You're lucky. I'm lusty about mine. Mine. Mine engages with 982 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: the audience, but you're talking shit. But you're doing the 983 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: same thing. Like girls love it and girls want to 984 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: do it, girls love the industry, girls off social media. 985 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: So when girls are speaking about you like that, you 986 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: just have to come from a place and be like, 987 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: I'm not thinking about them every day. I'm not thinking 988 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: about them after school. I'm on my own doing their 989 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: own thing. And the fact that they're talking about me, 990 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm obviously doing something right because I'm not talking about them. Yeah, 991 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 1: And you're just so weird to think about it. 992 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 3: Like I just think, like it's anything in life, Like 993 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 3: if you just care what people think, like you're never 994 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 3: going to just put be vulnerable and just give it 995 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 3: your best go. 996 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: And life is too short to just worry what people are. 997 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 3: Going to say about you, because regardless if you care 998 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 3: or not, you can't control the outcome and they're going 999 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 3: to do it anyways. 1000 00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you may as well just live your life, 1001 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: do it to do and fun. 1002 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 2: Whoever's hating on you start posting tiktoks in it a 1003 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 2: couple of months after exact that way. 1004 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,720 Speaker 1: And Claudia is really good of like kind of breaking 1005 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: down the stigma. Like obviously Claudia knows a lot about 1006 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: us personally and how we deal with things as well. 1007 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: And Claudia is a bit care free, like she doesn't 1008 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: really care. She's kind of like why are you worried 1009 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,479 Speaker 1: about that? Like she you really help break it down 1010 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 1: and kind of like dumb it down into seeming like 1011 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,720 Speaker 1: not a big deal. But when you when you explain 1012 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: your job to like maybe guys or like things that 1013 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: you're going on a date with, do you they kind 1014 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: of see judgy and like speak shit about your talent 1015 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: because they find a cringe. 1016 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 3: So that's an interesting question because like a lot of people, 1017 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 3: they're so intrigued by it, especially in my life, and 1018 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 3: like they just don't understand it. But I think what 1019 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 3: they just don't get is that you guys are actually 1020 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 3: just normal people. They're always like, oh, because I just 1021 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 3: see you online and they forget that you're actually just 1022 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 3: like me and you're you know, amazing, You've got to 1023 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 3: go personality and you're just you're just normal people. 1024 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: That's what I think they don't get. And I'm like, 1025 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, she goes through normal shit, like you. 1026 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 3: Manage talent, like that's so cool, you work with influences, 1027 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 3: But I'm like, they're just normal people. Yeah, So I 1028 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 3: think with anything there's judgment, but I think it's just 1029 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 3: it's just people being intrigued. And like, I just think 1030 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 3: this industry is really intrigued until so many people, because 1031 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 3: it is only when I kind of got into it 1032 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 3: could I see, like, you know, how much money you 1033 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 3: might be able to make or just like where it 1034 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 3: can go for you. 1035 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 2: It's just hard to get a grasp of until you're 1036 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 2: in it. 1037 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 3: Until you're in it one hundred percent. 1038 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: Everyone's really interested in money, but like there's also no 1039 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: ballpark about money, Like you could earn millions or you 1040 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: could earn nothing. You could earn it's so many one 1041 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: month and you can earn nothing another month. Like it 1042 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 1: ebbs and flows. You do not have a base salary. 1043 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: You do not have a salary, no annual earnings every year. 1044 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: It it's different for everyone. 1045 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 2: Like if you're just as a ballpark, say nothing to 1046 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 2: do with us, obviously, but if you had a million 1047 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 2: followers and an amazing engagement, you could easily get twenty 1048 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 2: thousand dollars for one day. 1049 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: Oh fucking oath bru. 1050 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 2: And that is just my blowing money. Like I was 1051 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 2: so shocked when I first heard that. 1052 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: You just like alex Earl's rates would be through the 1053 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: real So we know that she's earning hundreds of thousands 1054 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 1: of dollars. 1055 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 3: Per tictok, she would sell products so like she can 1056 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 3: charge that because like she will sell out of a 1057 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 3: product for a brand, and people. 1058 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: Need to realize that is like everyone goes, well, fucking 1059 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 1: influencer rates are fucking insane, like but then you have 1060 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,760 Speaker 1: to think about it. If alex Earl puts on a corset, 1061 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 1: imagine how much money the brand is making for investing 1062 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: her time into alex L making that content. Two hundred 1063 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: thousand people are buying a corset much and how much 1064 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 1: money they're making from selling eighty dollar corsets actly this is. 1065 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: This is they've made market that they've invested into alex 1066 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 1: Earl times fucking full. 1067 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 2: And then everyone that's bought off that corset now it 1068 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 2: probably knows that brand's name and will maybe buy something 1069 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 2: else that comes out ye, and it's like. 1070 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, alex L wears this, I want to 1071 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: wear this, Like you've got to think about it, Like, yes, 1072 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 1: influencer rates are insane compared to what like doctors and 1073 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: stuff maybe earning, but like, trust me, the brand's. 1074 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 2: Making the best way to market anything. 1075 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, these days now completely. 1076 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 2: It's a new world we're living in, so get around it. 1077 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 3: And it's just gonna like get bigger and bigger. I 1078 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 3: think it's gonna be crazy. 1079 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 1: If you don't have a following. A new thing that's 1080 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: come up in today's date age is UCG yesu GC. 1081 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 3: So UGC is a really great way for brands who 1082 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 3: might not have that bigger budget to still work with 1083 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 3: the girls create content, but it's just going to be 1084 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 3: for their channels, so it won't be posted on the 1085 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,720 Speaker 3: girl's platform, which is still a great way to engage. 1086 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 3: Still use the girls kind of like you know, likeliness 1087 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,720 Speaker 3: and reputation to you know sello product or work closely 1088 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 3: with them. 1089 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: So that's a really good good thing. 1090 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 3: And actually our agency, One day Dream is about to 1091 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 3: launch a UGC division, which would be great. So we're 1092 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 3: going to deck out a new studio, have a big 1093 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 3: team there and just kind of like hone in that 1094 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 3: kind of space, work and work really closely with. 1095 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 2: Brands, making content for brands which they can post on 1096 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:06,320 Speaker 2: their channel. 1097 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I will have a specific team who kind 1098 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 3: of do that, because there is some people out there 1099 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 3: who might not want to have the big face and 1100 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 3: all the things that come with, you. 1101 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: Know, but enjoy creating content an influencer. 1102 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, I just love doing content and that can 1103 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 3: also be a job as well. 1104 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 1: And you can do that, like you can a lot 1105 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: of girls who work full time jobs and need a 1106 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,839 Speaker 1: bit more money if you're saving for a holiday or 1107 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: like you want a bag or something like that. You 1108 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 1: can do UGC content creation and make like a couple 1109 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 1: hundred dollars per video. Say a brand might be like, 1110 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: all right, I want three videos from you? How much? 1111 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: And you could charge like five hundred dollars. You can 1112 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: earn a little bit of a little bit of dosh 1113 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: that can go straight into like holiday fund or something 1114 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: like that, like a little side hustle. If you're wanting 1115 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: to get into content creation but you don't have a following, 1116 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 1: that's probably a really good way to start it. So 1117 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: you learn, you get briefs, and you learn kind of 1118 00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 1: how that whole industry works. Yeah, definitely a right, all right, 1119 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: we're wrapping it up. This is it. 1120 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 2: This is the last time you will hear from us. 1121 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but they'll be listening to this after. 1122 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 2: It's for your guys, so we will update you next 1123 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:16,879 Speaker 2: week about how it all went. 1124 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, thank you guys so much for coming along. 1125 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: If you wanted to get into social media, this is 1126 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: your one on one guide on if you want to 1127 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: be behind the emails or in front of the camera. 1128 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 3: Yes, and how to get into it as well, Like 1129 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 3: if you're ever thinking about my job, just honestly, just 1130 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 3: dip your toes into as many like agencies or like 1131 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 3: pr all talent agencies and just connect with people. You 1132 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 3: always meet people. It's never, it's never. You know, it's 1133 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 3: just going to do you good and just give it 1134 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 3: a go. Intern it's the people you dream has like 1135 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 3: five interns at the moment, we have five interns and 1136 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 3: they're all boody amazing, and like I'm going to be 1137 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 3: connecting with them now for like the rest of my career. 1138 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 1: So it's just it's all about just gonna shoot you 1139 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: or you're all connecting and you're all talking to me 1140 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,399 Speaker 1: like yep, yep yeah, and then. 1141 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 3: They know somebody that can help you guys, and like 1142 00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 3: you know, I can help them with things. Like it's 1143 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 3: all just about like just getting it in and just 1144 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 3: giving it a go. 1145 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, just put yourself out there. One message won't hurt. 1146 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 2: But we love you all. Thank you for listening. 1147 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: Thanks guys. Bye,