WEBVTT - Credlin | 12 August 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:05.600 Peto Quedlin live from New twenty four. 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:10.520 What do you expect of the Prime Minister? Maxige Goose 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:13.960 himself on social media? Good evening, Welcome to the program. 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:16.880 Here's what's coming up tonight on Credline, the housing debate 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:19.520 hots up. The Coalition finally today putting some sort of 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:23.639 number on net migration, but is it official policy? Up 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.320 with that to the Opposition leader Angus Taylor, who joins 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:29.880 me live a little later, plus still with the coalition. 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:34.240 News twenty four Pulse poll has the opposition primary vote 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:37.320 closing in now on both One Nation and the government, 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:41.239 as Angus Taylor starts the climb back from the catastrophic 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.640 wreckage of Susan Lee's time as leader. 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:46.640 More on that with Tom Connell. 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:51.240 Pluster reports tonight Asio will get secret powers to investigate 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:56.920 university research ties with hostile nations and we'll look at 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:02.880 more fuel or over Australia's de radicalization programs. And Angus 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:06.440 Taylor today going hard on the Prime Minister over his 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:10.240 crude treatment at the Japanese PM as Albin Ezi digs 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.200 in and refuses to apologize. 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.800 Why won't the Prime Minister stop treating us like fools? 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.800 Manner and say sorry to the Prime Minister of Japan. 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.040 We will stay with that issue because is it any 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.640 wonder that people have lost faith in politicians when our 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:34.320 Prime Minister is a purveyor of smart and repeatedly appears 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:37.960 to have what can only be described as a pathological 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:42.399 aversion to the truth. It's one thing to make a mistake, 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:47.200 quite another to refuse to admit it and character eroding, 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.360 to double down and then insist you did nothing wrong. 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.920 But that's the mo the modus of runde of Anthony Albanezi, 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:59.520 and he is shameless, whether it's falling off a stage 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.840 and then denying what was clearly caught on camera. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:05.080 Stepped off the stage. 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:09.720 I didn't fall over on my backside. 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:11.840 I stumbled, That's what happened. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:18.320 Or a negging on election commitments to cut household power. 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:22.320 Bills reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.360 dollars two hundred and seventy five. 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.119 Dollars two hundred and seventy five. 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:30.680 Dollars a year, or that promise made some fifty times 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:35.040 plus by his own reckoning not to touch taxes on investments. 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:38.280 Can you rule out any changes to negative gearing and 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:39.560 capital gains taxes. 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.480 How hard is it for the fiftieth time. 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:47.120 The Prime minister's pattern of deceit, well, it now defines 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:51.120 him and that's deadly, particularly when facing off against the 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.560 likes of Pauline Hanson, who is nothing but a straight shooter, 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.200 even where her candor costs her votes. 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.440 I think disgusting that the Prime Minister can't even admit 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.560 whether he got two melons, and this is the way 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.400 he goes about this on air. I think it's disgusting. 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.480 We know what the hell he was talking about. 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.679 I was in the House of Representatives that day when 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.960 Julia Gillard came in like a galleon with sales full 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.120 and cannons ready, as Tony Abbott stood at the dispatch 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:25.760 box and demanded that she sacked Peter Slipper, her turncoat speaker, 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:30.520 for highly derogatory comments that Slipper had made about female 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:35.480 genitalia published in the media that morning. But because the 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.400 removal of Slipper could have sent her hung Parliament to 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:44.000 the polls, Gillard defended the indefensible deploying that now infamous 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.680 misogyny speech to save her own political skin at the 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:48.640 expense of. 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:49.680 Women and girls. 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.400 Now, can you imagine the outrage if Abbott had made 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:57.360 hand gestures about Melon's and a female politician, rather than 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:01.360 merely as he did look at his watch, or Scott 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:06.360 Morrison or Peter Dutton. Not only was Albanese's mocking of 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:10.560 a generous ceremonial gift from his Japanese counterpart ill judged 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.840 given the concern that Tokyo already has about his closest 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:20.279 to Beijing, but to use clearly sexual innuenda innuendo to 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.920 Garners social media likes at the expense of our allies 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:29.520 first ever female leader was crass beyond belief. When was 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.920 the last time that the member for grain Love stood 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:35.120 on the stage to give a sober economic speech as 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:41.080 opposed according influences with vacuous questions to even more vacuous 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:50.320 vacuous answers to even more vacuous questions. 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:58.240 Budget late next week, listen up, very surreal. 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.400 Jeers by Abes and welcome to Happy Hour with Lucy 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.480 Nikki and the Prime Minister. 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.280 I mean, who's running the media strategy in his office 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:13.599 or any of these labor offices anyway? So enamored are 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:16.920 they all with TikTok sound bites and trending reels. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:31.360 Mister Christmas to speak. 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:36.839 That labors Delulu if they think drivel like this goes 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:40.480 down well with everyday Australians at a time where their 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:44.960 house values are tanking, crimes spiking, and people are worried 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:48.680 about whether they can cover their power bills. It's indulgent. 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.159 It cheapens the high office that he occupies. He doesn't 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.640 own it, It just occupies it. Not that Alvin Easy 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.479 or his team appreciate that subtle but critical difference. What 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:04.560 stays me is the gas lighting. He insults our intelligence, 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:08.560 pretending that in a discussion about melons and Pamela Anderson 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.159 whilst juggling his chairs, hands in front of his chest, 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.440 as if it's anything other than what. 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:20.200 We know it was. The Japanese Prime Minister brought a melon? 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:21.480 Did she smuggle it? 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:22.120 I don't know. 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.880 Got a couple of melons she brought too, She brought too, 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:27.680 as you. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:32.280 Do, Pamela Anderson melons. I mean, this is straight out 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:33.560 of the Daniel Andrews playbook. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:33.920 You know. 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.520 Try and tell people that what they saw they saw 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:37.680 it as black nut. 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:39.599 It's white that what. 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.480 He did he didn't do, or what he said he 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:45.320 didn't say. I mean, give me a contrite, Peter Beatty 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.559 any time. Give me any politician ready to say sorry 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.359 when they make a mistake, rather than one like this 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:56.000 that treats us with such contempt. And speaking of contempt, 0:06:56.480 --> 0:07:00.720 I don't know who deserves the opprobrium more mister Albert 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.240 Sleezy or his handbag hit squad of mean girls as 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.679 they raced out to defend what, if said by anyone else, 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.520 would have been worse than a war crime. Just like 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.440 none of them seem to have watched the degrading so 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:19.680 called skit involving the mining billionaire Gina Reinheart, saying that 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.680 it was a matter for the ABC that they could 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.600 not comment on the content. What was it about the 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:31.360 conservative politics of Sano Takahatchi that meant she was denied 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:35.000 that a ritual defense so readily granted to women on 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:39.040 the left. How galling must be for these labor women. 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:43.080 I mean, they're used as sheerler shields for alban easy, 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.600 but how weak of them to go along with it. 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.600 In my day, women politicians told to get out there 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.200 and defend the indefensible would have told the person at 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:55.080 the end of the phone it gets staffed, but not 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:58.800 these women of modern labor, quick to lecture all of 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:02.120 us about a kind of gentler parliament, quick to lecture 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:05.080 about the need for quotas to give women a fair go, 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:09.800 and yet so quick to produce themselves to be little 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:14.440 more than Patsy's for a craftsman who's diminishing faster than 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:18.320 even his critics would believe. The Prime Minister has been 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:22.040 very clear that the type of inference that you're applying 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:23.560 there is not what he was. 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:27.200 What we have heard from the Japanese side of this 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:31.760 is there has been a sensationalized reporting of something that, 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.480 as the Prime Minister has been very clear about, has 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:35.599 been mischaracterized. 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.840 The comments and the remarks from the Prime Minister have 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:42.040 been misinterpreted. The Prime Minister is very clear that he 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:45.719 did not mean for those comments to be interpreting the 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.120 way they have by some media outlets and by our 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:49.240 political opponents. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.760 Come on, girls, we will see you. But no one 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.720 should be surprised by that. Look at the track record 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.040 of these women and their treatment of liberals like Linda 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:05.560 Reynolds and Fiona Brown, both now exonerated over allegations they 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:09.760 acted to damage Britney Higgins, and yet still no apology 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:14.040 for either woman. Spare thought too for their own colleague 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.600 who had the courage to call them Mount Kimberly Kitchen, 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.640 the late ALP senator ostracized by her own side for 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.840 daring to warn Reynolds of the coming storm, or fellow 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:29.400 labor victorian the late Jane Garrett, who showed incredible bravery 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:33.520 holding fast to ministerial standards that were then being debased 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:37.400 by Daniel Andrews, as laid out in last week's long 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:41.880 awaited Iback report. When it comes to integrity the left 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:46.680 of frauds, I couldn't imagine Peter Malinowskis or Chris Min's 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:50.880 behaving as the Prime Minister did in that low rent podcast. 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:56.520 I couldn't imagine Kim Beasley entertaining a question about shagging 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:00.560 Kylie Mino. I just can't every guests he gets asked 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:05.240 these shag Mary date Kylie Minogue, Nicole Kidman or Ronda Birchmore. 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.679 I've just got married, I'm only six months in. Well, 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.600 if it goes tits up, let's just pretend. 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:15.679 Oh Kylie, clearly he married Kylie and Shagger and data. 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:16.920 All of the above. 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:22.520 I mean, how unedifying is that None of that now 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.560 notorious podcast was broadcast live, none of it. 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.160 It was all pre recorded there that's the sitting room. 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.840 At the lodge, So how did it even make its 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:38.320 way to air? There's something off, creepy off about Albertez's 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:43.280 desperation to be faded by twenty somethings. Maybe it's because, 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.959 having once had his face on a can of beer, 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.600 it's all gone to his head now. I don't know 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:53.880 about this DJ Albow, but that's not who I want 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:58.240 to see on the international stage representing my country. I mean, 0:10:58.280 --> 0:10:59.960 are we really going back to the days of beating 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:04.480 Hill with this bloke? Give me a daggy John Howard 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:08.120 in a tract suit any day. Humility will now be 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:11.280 the biggest test for the Prime minister. Will he have 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:16.600 the intestinal fortitude to personally apologize to the Japanese Prime 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:20.440 Minister and to the Australian public who know exactly what 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.520 they saw on that podcast. 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.240 Well we will see. But today, whether it's a. 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.600 Travel roads of his MPs or his own budget lies. 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.360 Almines has got a glass jaw, and that means he 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.560 rarely admits to being wrong, even when he is, and 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:40.440 to all those labor women who are out on camera 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.880 this week defending him, that footage is there. 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:46.840 We'll keep it so that the next. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.560 Time you get on your high horse when someone offends 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:54.120 your gender sensibilities or we will use it when you 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:58.240 go out there and you defend the indefensible, like you 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:03.920 are now rendering your right to criticize others, because yet again, 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:08.760 the standard you are walking past as labor women is 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:14.480 the standard you accept now. Honestly, ladies, how low will 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:21.400 you go? Let's get the headlines out of Canberra. Political 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.360 reporter Ruven Spargo. 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:27.200 Good evening the Prime Minister is refusing to apologize to 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:32.000 his Japanese counterpart over the melon controversy. Pauline Hanson is 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:35.720 taking Anthony Albenezi to task over his podcast appearance. 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.319 The way he goes about this on a I think 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.760 it's disgusting. We know what the hell he was talking about. 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:45.319 The Coalition has asked the Federal Police to investigate who 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.120 leaked diplomatic correspondents from Japan over the incident. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.480 Why won't the Prime Minister stop treating us like fools? 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.520 Man up and say sorry to the Prime Minister of Japan. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:01.040 My office and my team have spent four years carefully 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:02.839 rebuilding our relationships. 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:07.400 Labour insists the podcast appearance has not damaged to Australia's 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:11.120 relationship with Japan. The Coalition is vowing to slash a 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.360 long list of construction standards in a bid to lower 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:18.160 the cost of building homes and tackle Australia's housing shortfall. 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.000 It wants to cut more than two thousand pages of 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.959 building rules down to just eighty Everything beyond basic safety 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:29.720 standards would become an optional extra, including accessibility and energy 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.079 efficiency requirements. 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.840 It is illegal to build a cheap house in Australia, 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.680 which is outrageous. The house won't be gold plated, but 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:38.680 it won't fall down. 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.319 The Coalition has confirmed it wants to cut net overseas 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.480 migration to fewer than one hundred and eighty thousand people 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.480 a year to ease pressure on housing demand. 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:54.280 There are good signs here of improvement for the Coalition 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.320 if you have a look at the trend under Angus 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.640 Taylor's leadership. The Coalition is starting to close the gap 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.360 on both One Nation and the Government, and there's a 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:06.600 boost in personal support too for the opposition leader. News 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:10.080 twenty four Chief Election analyst Tom Connell has more. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.360 Peter, the gap between the Coalition and One Nation is 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.120 something we've been monitoring. It has closed again. The latest 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.640 news twenty four Pulse. Not a lot of movement in 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.320 this primary vote, but one nation down. The one percentage 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.520 point in the gap is now at two percent. 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.120 So why this focus. 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:31.160 Well, let's track this. 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.040 Over time and look at the primary vote of what 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:36.600 i'll call the Big three, going back to November last year. 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.280 Labor then was still clearly in front of thirty two percent. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:41.880 One Nation had begun to surge, remember six percent of 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.920 the election, so it's up to eighteen here the coalition 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.000 on twenty five, a summer dominated by the Bondai terror attack. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.920 We had one nation edging ahead by January, but not 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.440 a big margin, twenty three to nineteen. In February Susan 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.520 Lee was replaced by March. The Coalition gap and One 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.360 Nation gap is growing. It's nine percentage point and then 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:04.400 the peak coming at the end of June thirteen percentage points. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.080 That's massive, but it has closed up pretty quickly. In 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.680 July it was down to six percentage points. Then you 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:13.040 get to now August, it's only two percent. The open 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:16.120 question we don't know the answer. Has one nation peaked 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.200 after perhaps what we'd call a post Bondi surge the 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:23.240 Prime minister's personal numbers. Meanwhile, they have dipped again. Satisfied 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.960 is down and dissatisfied up, so down three percent overall 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:30.760 the minus twenty one percent net satisfaction That is about 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.400 where Peter Dutton was before the last election, but it's 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.239 still well ahead of where Susan. 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:35.560 Lee got to. 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.720 Let's look at the opposition leaders net satisfaction over time 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:40.440 as well. Beginning in February. 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.560 This was when Susan Lee had her last result minus 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:47.160 forty percent net satisfaction, so comparing those unhappy with her 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.120 compared to happy, that is about as bad as it gets. 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:52.160 There was an instant bump for Angus Taylor back up 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:55.120 to minus eight percent, and then maybe it's a honeymoon period. 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.200 He got to almost neutral at minus. 0:15:56.840 --> 0:16:00.280 One a pretty sustained slide after then May jun in 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.400 July down to minus sixteen percent, but in our latest 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:06.840 poll he's received a much needed boost, up five percentage. 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.760 Points in one poll at minus eleven. 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.840 Now, any leader would rather be in positive territory, but 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:15.840 in opposition your job is to criticize, particularly early. 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.160 On in a term when you're not fleshing out your 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:17.640 own plan. 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.560 So if you look at these numbers minus eleven overall 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.200 and at the moment heading in the right direction he 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.040 needs to get his primary vote up, these numbers themselves, 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:27.000 they won't be. 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:36.000 A major concern for Angus Taylor, all right. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.880 One political observation I bake there on that movement. As 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.520 Tom said, there was a bit of a boost for 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:43.840 Angus Taylor's personal ratings and there was a bit of 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:45.800 a slide and then there's been a boost back again. 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:47.840 A lot of that, in my view, has to do 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.200 with when Parliament is on and in that hiatus when 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.880 it fell away. The high point was obviously around the 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:57.200 Budget reply speech he gave in Budget week. When it 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:01.160 falls away, it's when the opposition's not in a around Parliament, 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.480 they're not in the mix at night in the media 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.919 and they're not pumping out the content as they normally do. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.399 So this will be something that the opposition will have 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:10.280 to watch closely. 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:11.600 Let's get into the other issues. 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:13.440 I've got a Padel now joining me and News threenty 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.560 four contributor Cali cats and Barness and Deputy and director 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.080 at the Institute of Public Affairs, Dan Wild. Welcome to 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:22.200 you both, Carolee. I want to start with Question Time today. 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.560 They pushed really hard on the Prime Minister, who is 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:31.119 still refusing to apologize for the crude and sexist gestures 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.240 about the Japanese Prime Minister. 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:33.960 Have a listen. 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.160 Why won't the Prime Minister stop treating us like fools? 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:42.159 Man up and say sorry to the Prime Minister of Japan. 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:46.399 Can the Prime Minister assure the House that neither his 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:51.720 office nor his department leaked official and private correspondence from 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.760 the government of Japan. The Prime Minister has now been 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:59.040 asked three times why he will not apologize to the 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:03.520 Prime Minister of Japan for his appalling behavior on the 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.280 Bush Deep podcast. 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:08.720 All right, we all know what we saw. 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:11.280 I think out there in the real world people know 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:16.080 exactly what they saw. And this defense by the Prime Minister, 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.560 digging in the defense by all these women in this 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:22.280 front bench saying it's all been misinterpreted. I don't think 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.439 this is going to help him at all. This is 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.960 not when Rudd went to the Scores nightclub, the strip 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:32.280 club in New York. This is coming after a female 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:34.520 counterpart world leader. 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.600 It's a very very different thing, Kroly. 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:43.119 It shows a lack of respect to the Japanese Prime Minister, 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.680 and it also shows a lot of arrogance and Hubrit's 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.639 midway through the second term. The thing is you can't 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:50.840 change what you don't acknowledge. And the bottom line is 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.359 if Anthony Albanezi doesn't think that what he said and 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:56.800 did is offensive, doesn't matter how many times people try 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:58.959 and point that out. He won't accept it because there 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:00.879 is no class to the man and he is not 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:04.520 a leader. The interesting thing to me is Tanya Plibersic, 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.200 as we know, seen as a long term rival from 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.959 the same left faction as him. She was left on 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.080 you know, morning television having to defend him, and we 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.600 know that that's a poison chalice, isn't it. Because he 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:19.119 dumped her originally from education, put her an environment, then 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.119 dumped her from that, put her to water, put her 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:22.200 to social services. 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:23.240 So he's got a. 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.440 Right where he wants her. You've then got Katie Gallagher, 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:29.320 the finance who came out as well, well you know 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.960 the alleged allegations before as being. 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:32.879 One of the mean girls. 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:35.960 He's got these women trying to defend him, who in 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:39.240 their own right have their own issues in the public 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:42.160 eye as well. And I just think it is incredibly 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:44.280 rude because as we know with the Prime MINISTERY has 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:48.480 a history of this, you know that Tetchie press conference 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.399 where he's at all for the fiftieth time, we're not 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:52.920 going to change, you know, to capital gains tax or 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.720 negative gearing, and he did. We've had the two hundred 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:59.200 and seventy five dollars energy bill credit that didn't come out. 0:19:59.240 --> 0:19:59.760 We've had the. 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:03.040 Fall off the stage. I stepped off the stage. We've 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.119 had the promise of him going to the Northern Territory 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.640 to the Gama Festival, he hasn't done that. And then 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.680 poor Diddams he hasn't had a day off in a year, 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.760 so he went to take leave. I just think the 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.560 fact that he's not acknowledging this shows that he has 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:20.159 something to hide. And regardless of what he says, he 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.520 seems to dine out on, the eyes of. 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.040 The world are on Australia. 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:26.520 Well, he needs to wake up and realize that our 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:30.280 standing in the world, this is headlining around the world 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:33.840 still and the fact that he's refusing to apologize is 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:37.239 just disgraceful because he did say it, he did do it. 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:40.080 The vision is there, and what can you say? He's 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:41.560 an embarrassment to Australia. 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:45.760 Yeah, I'm calling him Melvo sleazy Dan. I think that's 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.320 one part of the problem. The other is this ridiculous 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:51.960 defense by these women. I mean, I would not get 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.280 out there and defend the indefensible. Would no matter what 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:56.520 a Prime Minister's office woulded have threatened me with. 0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:59.560 I just wouldn't have that against my name. So you 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.879 know them and they are weak to do that. 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:05.720 But I guess my biggest issue really with the whole 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:09.280 thing is it's the trust deficit. You know, this bloke 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:13.040 is a pathological liar. It's now part of the narrative 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:16.440 Dan about him. And this I think is really rich 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:20.399 territory for the opposition heading into an election because if 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:23.680 you can't trust anything this bloke says, how on earth 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:24.920 can he be re elected? 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:28.000 Well, that's right. 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:31.040 And I think also the point that you've made tonight 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:34.320 and the other night was the hypocrisy of this all. 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:36.199 I mean, just imagine if the shoe was on the 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:39.600 other foot. Imagine if this was a center right political leader. 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.720 Imagine this was Angus Taylor or Matt Canavan who made 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:44.920 comments like this, you can imagine the reaction would be 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.840 apocalyptic from the media and from labor and from the 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:52.240 Green So the hypocrisy is something that frustrates me and 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:56.000 frustrates many Australians in addition to the obvious gas lighting. 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:57.480 I mean, this is what's so annoying. 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:01.000 We are constantly told by a political leader is don't 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:03.440 believe your own eyes. Whether it's to do with immigration, 0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:05.520 don't believe your own eyes, whether it's to do with 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:08.680 living standards going backwards, don't believe your own eyes, or 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:10.719 whether it's to do with the actual words and the 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:14.400 actions that the Prime Minister said and the Prime Minister performed. 0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:18.320 Everybody knows what he was gesturing. Everybody know what he meant. 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:22.119 Just fess up and apologize and move on. And the 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:24.639 fact that he won't do that for me is the 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:27.400 most frustrating and demeaning part of this whole episode. 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:32.280 I know you've watched Dan very closely, all the numbers 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:35.280 coming in from the ABS about migration. We've got a 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.840