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Speaker 1: From the Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, May tenth. The former Queen and King Charles

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Speaker 1: sent letters of support to disgraced former Governor General Peter

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Speaker 1: Hollingworth after it was revealed he had failed to properly

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Speaker 1: deal with allegations of child sexual abuse while an Anglican archbishop.

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Speaker 1: The Australian's exclusively revealing today a letter from the then

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Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth in two thousand and three in which she

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Speaker 1: told Hollingworth the church was the victim of horrid media campaigning.

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Speaker 1: Charles sent his commiserations and said he was praying for Hollingworth.

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Speaker 1: That's an exclusive live right now on the Australian dot

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Speaker 1: com dot U send the money somewhere else. That's the

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Speaker 1: call from Jacinta Numbim for Price, who wants the government

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Speaker 1: to redirect funding from a Macarata truth telling commission into

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Speaker 1: more practical measures. The Coalition senator says last year's referendum

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Speaker 1: defeat shows Australians expect Labor to rethink its reconciliation strategy.

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Speaker 1: Christopher Michael Dawson is headed back to court almost two

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Speaker 1: years after he was convicted for the nineteen eighty two

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Speaker 1: murder of his first wife, Lynn. The former schoolteacher will

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Speaker 1: argue the judge got it wrong in an appeal set

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Speaker 1: to start on Monday today. Why he's appealing and what

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Speaker 1: his chances are. This was one of the most spine

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Speaker 1: chilling moments I've witnessed in my journalism career.

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Speaker 2: Christopher Michael Dawson on the charge there about eight January

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two, at Dayview or elsewhere in the state

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Speaker 2: of New South Wales, you did murder Lynette Dawson. I

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Speaker 2: find you guilty.

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Speaker 1: In the understated delivery of New South Wales Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: Justice Ian Harrison. This is a moment that was forty

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Speaker 1: years in the making, the conviction of former star footballer

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Speaker 1: Chris Dawson for the murder of his wife, the mother

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Speaker 1: of his two daughters, Lynnette Simms. Justice Harrison was wearing

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Speaker 1: a red satin robe and wig, and after reading those words,

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Speaker 1: he told Dawson, then a frail seventy four year old,

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Speaker 2: You message down, mister Dawson, will be necessary for you

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Speaker 2: to be taken into custody. You'll have to go about it.

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Speaker 1: That faint jingling you can hear is the handcuffs and

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Speaker 1: keys of two armed officers who walked over to Dawson

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Speaker 1: and handcuffed him. They walked him across the court into

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Speaker 1: a dock and through a padded door which led down

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Speaker 1: to the cells deep below the suppress court. This was

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Speaker 1: no ordinary murder trial. Christopher Dawson had been the subjective

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Speaker 1: of podcast published by The Australian, the world famous The

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Speaker 1: Teacher's Pet by our colleague Hedley Thomas, who listeners of

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Speaker 1: the Front know well. After the twenty eight publication of

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Speaker 1: Headley's sweeping piece of investigative journalism, Dawson was charged with murder,

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Speaker 1: something the new South Wales Director of Public Prosecutions had

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Speaker 1: twice refused to do. Despite two recommendations from the coroner

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Speaker 1: that Dawson be charged, Dawson fought the case all the

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Speaker 1: way to the High Court of Australia, arguing that he

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Speaker 1: couldn't get a fair trial because the entire nation and

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Speaker 1: the entire world had heard Headley's podcast, which so far

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Speaker 1: has had something like eighty million downloads. He lost at

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Speaker 1: every stage, but Dawson did get one thing. He wanted

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Speaker 1: a trial by judge alone. Instead of a jury. The

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Speaker 1: thinking was that a judge who can be relied upon

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Speaker 1: would make the kind of dispassionate decision that jurors who

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Speaker 1: podcasts might not be able to do. Dispassionate was a

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Speaker 1: good word for the way Ian Harrison summed up Dawson's guilt.

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Speaker 2: The evidence does not reveal how mister Dawson killed Lynette Dawson.

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Speaker 2: It does not reveal whether he did so with the

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Speaker 2: reveal where or when he did so, nor does it

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Speaker 2: reveal where Annette Dawson's body is now. The charge of

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Speaker 2: murdering this trial is unsupported by direct evidence. The case

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Speaker 2: against mister Dawson is wholly circumstantial. I'm satisfied beyond reasonable

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Speaker 2: doubt that the only rational inference that the circumstances enable

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Speaker 2: me to draw is that Lenette Dawson died or on

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Speaker 2: about eight January nineteen eighty two as the result of

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Speaker 2: a conscious and voluntary act committed by mister Dawson with

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Speaker 1: Harrison sentenced Dawson to twenty four years and new laws

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Speaker 1: passed because of Lynn Sims's case, called Lynn's Law means

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Speaker 1: he won't get parole unless he reveals what he did

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Speaker 1: These are Dawson's grounds of appeal. First, that Justice Harrison

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Speaker 1: There were alleged sightings of Lynn. Someone claimed they saw

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Speaker 1: he said that could equally weigh in Chris Dawson's favor.

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Speaker 1: That is, if the bank statements existed, they could prove

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Speaker 1: The second and third grounds of appeal go like this.

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Speaker 1: Dawson says Justice Harrison made a mistake when he declared

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Speaker 1: Dawson's lies demonstrated his consciousness of guilt. Dawson's complaint is

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Speaker 1: that Justice Harrison went even further than the prosecutors in

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Speaker 1: Lynn's disappearance, including in his police interview in nineteen ninety one,

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Speaker 1: He also said Dawson lied about the young woman who

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Speaker 1: the Crown failed to adequately prove lynd Dawson was definitely

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Speaker 3: So we understand that the silk representing Chris Dawson is

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Speaker 3: She was the first female senior public defender appointed in

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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. He also has two legal aid solicitors, Shari

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Speaker 3: Pittman and Steven Ekeshell. During the murder trial he was

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Speaker 3: represented by a very high profile criminal solicitor called Greg Walsh.

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Speaker 3: But now he's got two legal aid lawyers. So we

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Speaker 3: know that he's out of money and we'll see how

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Speaker 3: these lawyers go in representing him. On Monday, he'll.

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Speaker 1: Also be coming in from Long Bay Jail. It'll be

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Speaker 1: interesting to see him again after all this time, won't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it will. It's interesting, Claire, because we know that

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Speaker 3: the hint, to some extent, we would be able to

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Speaker 3: watch online, but I'm keen to go into the courtroom

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Speaker 3: and see what he looks like. He's been in prison

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Speaker 3: for what almost two years now, you know, see how

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Speaker 1: Coming up the other part of Chris Dawson's story will

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Speaker 1: be in court for this appeal and you can follow

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Speaker 1: be back after this break. Within months of his conviction

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Speaker 1: for the murder of Lynn, Chris Dawson was back before

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Speaker 1: the court on fresh charges.

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Speaker 4: Today they were forced back together in a Sydney court,

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Speaker 4: reliving a relationship that was allegedly criminal. Chris Dawson accused

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Speaker 4: of carnal knowledge grooming a sixteen year old.

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Speaker 1: When he appeared in the New South Wales District Court

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Speaker 1: this time last year, Dawson was visibly weathered by his

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Speaker 1: prison experience. He swapped his gray suit for prison greens.

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Speaker 1: A blue surgical mask covered half of his face. His tall,

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Speaker 2: He wasn't there for long.

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Speaker 1: Just days in Dawson's public defender, Barrister Clairesley, successfully argued

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Speaker 1: link from Sydney's famous Longbay Prison. After that, Dawson's face

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Speaker 3: Mister Dawson, can you see a year, honor?

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Speaker 1: Dawson pleaded not guilty to the unlawful carnal knowledge of

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Speaker 1: Dawson admitted he did have sex with Ab, but he

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Speaker 1: ultimately failed despite what Judge Huggart called inconsistencies in AB's evidence.

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Speaker 1: Here's what she said in handing down her judgment.

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Speaker 5: While none of this evidence is capable alone or collectively

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Speaker 5: for the complainant's evidence that the accused committed an act

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Speaker 5: and his pupil. I am satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that

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Speaker 1: Dawson wasn't happy the video link he'd fought forth stayed

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Speaker 1: proceedings on a closed streams Dawson serving an additional three

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Speaker 6: Christopher Dawson for the offensive cardinal knowledge of a girl

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Speaker 6: above the age of ten years and under the age

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Speaker 6: of seventeen years and who was your pupil. I sentenced

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Speaker 6: you to imprisonment for three years, commencing on thirty August

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Speaker 6: expiring on twenty nine August twenty forty one, on which

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Speaker 1: A tricky bit of maths relating to the way the

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Speaker 1: two sentences overlap mean Dawson will actually only serve an

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Speaker 1: extra year. Judge Sarah Huggett got a new job not

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Speaker 1: of the New South Wales District Court. These two convictions,

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Speaker 1: for murder. It's possible that in future Dawson will appeal

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