1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live from six o'clock the second NRL Grand 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Final qualifier. Who goes through these battle hardened Panthers. 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: They had dead ways to score, these Panthers. 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Or the pride of the Shire the Cronulla Sutherland Sharks. 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: Both clubs came into the Big League in nineteen sixty 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: seven and the Panthers are out to be the first 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: instant George in the nineteen sixties to win four Premierships 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: in a row. Sharks. 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 3: The Sharks have won just. 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: The one, but what a one it was. Today it's 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: this little fellow doing the business. 12 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: He's having the night of his career. 13 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: Brayden Tricky Trindle. In just a few weeks he's gone 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: from renegade to rugby league royalty, from purgatory to pinner, 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: turning not just his life but. 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 2: The whole droid around three hundred and. 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: Sixty degrees or thereabouts. For Pendless, it's the usual suspects 18 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: bordering greatness. Nathan Cleary is only one Nathan Cleary, Dylan. 19 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: Edward's spirit trouble here. 20 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: Playing his one hundred and fiftieth first grade game, and Isaiah. 21 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: Yo w Yo yo Yo. 22 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: The Panthers and the Sharks Live Saturday night straight after 23 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: the Mattie John showed in four k Ultra HD. But 24 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: of course right here on Fox. 25 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 4: League thro und three sixty roughly from Every Anger brought 26 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: to you by a tell Fast joining me again the 27 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: great Going tallis It's been a journal Australian Jane Fopa 28 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 4: and Michael Carriana said he's the Penrith Panthers Gordy taking 29 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 4: on the Shark sets up to be an epic battle. 30 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 5: Of course, the Panthers the odds on favorites. But can 31 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 5: the Sharks get it done? Oh, it's going to be 32 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 5: a huge task, isn't it. They're going to have to 33 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 5: play a grade eighty minutes. 34 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 6: I thought they were really good for forty minutes the 35 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 6: other week, but they certainly will need an eighty minute performance. 36 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 6: And you never know can Pennemus stay to that high level. 37 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 7: She's been a juggernaut the Panthers a lot, the players 38 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 7: they've lost and the way that they continue just to 39 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 7: find other gears. Nathan Cleary back into the side for 40 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 7: the opening week of the finals. 41 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 3: I don't see them being beaten. 42 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, the Sharks were super impressive last week, but they're 43 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 8: going to need to be nine and a half out 44 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 8: of ten across the board and Pener they need to 45 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 8: be seven. I think if they get close to their best, 46 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 8: they'll blow the Sharks out of the water. 47 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: I agree. 48 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 5: The Panthers clear favorites and should be the way they've 49 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 5: been performing over the past few seasons in that final 50 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 5: against the Ruses. Now that's Cross Live, the Panthers will 51 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 5: be metch Kenny, Mitch, you've had the week off. What's 52 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 5: the preparation been like and what's been the focus for 53 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 5: this week? 54 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 9: Hey, fellas, Yeah, no, the week off is great. Got 55 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 9: a chance to freshen up a bit, but we also 56 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 9: got a chance to put in some hard work and 57 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 9: this week, yeah, we've just started doing our homework on 58 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 9: the Sharks and paying them the respect that is IRV 59 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 9: And yeah, trying to get out trying to get ourselves 60 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 9: ready for a good. 61 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: Game this weekend. 62 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 5: Mitchie, going for yourself your third straight premiership, the club's 63 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 5: going for four in a row. 64 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 2: Surely you must. 65 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 5: Pinch yourself at times thinking of the position that you're 66 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 5: actually in. 67 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, mate, it does. When you take a step back, 68 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 9: it feels a bit surreal, but at the moment it's 69 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 9: just trying to take one day at a time. We've 70 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 9: got a few training sessions left and then you know, 71 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 9: we'll just let the game play on Saturday. But yeah, 72 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 9: it's pretty special and it's pretty cool to be a 73 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 9: part of this. Mate. 74 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 6: Hey mitche, it's Gordon tell us. Congratulations on a great year. 75 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 7: Hat. 76 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: How do the penwidth Panthers after winning three? 77 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 6: How do you maintain the desire to keep on working 78 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 6: then get you know, and being at the top of 79 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 6: your game? 80 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 81 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 9: Mate, I just think there's so many there's so many 82 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 9: areas and places we can draw innovation from. But I 83 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 9: just don't really think any of us wanted to stop. 84 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 9: I feel like we all feel individually and as a 85 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 9: team that there's more we can get out of ourselves 86 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 9: and we can go to new heights, and I guess 87 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 9: we're just constantly chasing that as well as there's other 88 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 9: guys in our team who haven't tasted as much success 89 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 9: as guys that have been there for three premierships, So 90 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 9: it's just constantly just trying to get the best out 91 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 9: of ourselves and as a team, and one in our 92 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 9: teammates to share that as well. 93 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 7: But you're a local junior that must be special boon 94 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 7: part of this system and it's been such a brilliant 95 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 7: procession line over the past number of seasons. Now, what 96 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 7: was a lot for you when you first came into 97 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 7: that system and you're playing alongside Nathan Cleary, all of 98 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,559 Speaker 7: a sudden you have to replace happy Kius out, who's 99 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 7: an out and out champion of the game. 100 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: What was that like for you? Yeah? 101 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 9: Mate, it took a lot of sort of probably work 102 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 9: to not feel like an imposter in such a good squad. 103 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 9: There are a few teething issues, but you know, I 104 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 9: always had, you know, the best teammates I could ask 105 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 9: for around me. I was in the best system. I 106 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 9: had to be resources in terms of my coaches. 107 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: And things like that. 108 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 9: So I had a lot of people to lean on 109 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 9: and just helped me develop and help me feel like 110 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 9: I was part of his squad and that I could 111 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 9: be a valuable member of this team. So just about 112 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 9: trying to stack days and put the work in and 113 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 9: you know, hopefully the results we speak for themselves. 114 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: Mick. 115 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 8: Every Grand final, every premiership has been different. How's this 116 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 8: season been different for you guys? 117 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, it's probably been the season that we've had 118 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 9: guys coming out of the team each week the most 119 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 9: probably the most disrupted we've been sort of as a squad, 120 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 9: but you know that's been great because there's been lessons 121 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 9: in there for us as a team as well. So yeah, 122 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 9: it probably hasn't been as smooth sailing as we like, 123 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 9: but we feel like we're in a pretty good spot. 124 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: At the moment. 125 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 9: And yeah, everyone'shumming and we're looking forward to the weekend. 126 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 5: Cordy asked you about motivation and how do you get 127 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 5: up each year and how do you find that extra 128 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 5: something to be in this position as you always are 129 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 5: now little eyes moving on and so is Fisher Harris. 130 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 5: Surely that adds a bit of motivation for you guys 131 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 5: to send them out in a high. 132 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 9: Oh absolutely, mate, They're been such big, such a big 133 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 9: part of this squad for the last few years, and 134 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 9: you know, we've been fortunate enough to send some of 135 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,119 Speaker 9: our brothers out on a high as well and spend 136 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 9: our credo guys like that, and we want the same 137 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 9: for Romes. 138 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: We want the same for Fish. 139 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 9: You know, they've been vital in what we've been doing 140 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 9: here the last few years, and yeah, we feel like 141 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 9: we owe it to them to make sure that they 142 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 9: leave on that sort. 143 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 6: Of note, Mitch, about four to six weeks ago, you 144 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 6: looked a little bit clunky and maybe the wheels were 145 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 6: falling off. 146 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: Against the Roosters, you just turned it on. 147 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 6: Have have the Panthers played their best footy this year yet? 148 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: And that's a question from the rest of the competition. 149 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not too sure, mate, I guess I guess 150 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 9: we'll see is we get to the weekend. But you know, 151 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 9: we certainly feel like there's more in us. And yeah, 152 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 9: even though we played a pretty good game against the Chucks, 153 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 9: there were certainly areas of that game that we felt 154 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 9: like we can improve. So last two weeks we sort 155 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 9: of looked at that and tried to double down on 156 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 9: what we do well and also where we think we 157 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 9: can get better, and you know, hopefully we can deliver 158 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 9: our best performance of the year this weekend. 159 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 8: You mentioned the past couple of days you've done a 160 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 8: little bit of homework on the Sharks. What have you 161 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 8: learned about them? 162 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 10: Oh? 163 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 9: I mate, nothing new. Like They've just got so many 164 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 9: threats all over the park and so many guys that 165 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 9: deserve our respect when they're on. They're probably the most 166 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 9: dangerous team in the competition, and you know that's led 167 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 9: by their halvesho are in great form at the moment. 168 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 9: So yeah, there's so many guys that you've got to 169 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 9: look after. You can't just face your attention on one person. 170 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 9: So just in our units, trying to do our homework 171 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 9: and pay those guys to respect they deserve. 172 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 7: It's just a bit more of a lighthearted question from 173 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 7: Buzzer Rothfield down at Cronalla. Is that right that Nathan 174 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 7: Cleary might be going over to the Super League to 175 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 7: have a little sojourn over there so that he can 176 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 7: be closer to Mary Fouler. 177 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, three years Warrington. 178 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 5: Surely you've been giving you a bit of crap over 179 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 5: the last few days for Nate. 180 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: He's been coping it all. 181 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 8: I caught on to it late a. I didn't see this. 182 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 9: I didn't know this was going around. I've sort of 183 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 9: missed the bow. 184 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 5: Well, you've been simply yourself and the club have been 185 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 5: simply stunning the watch over the past four seasons at least, 186 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 5: and good luck with that four peet this year. 187 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: All right. 188 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 9: Jeez, thinks I was mate, Mitch. 189 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 5: Kenny, what a machine Penrith have been it's it's it's unbelievable. Really, 190 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 5: I don't think any of us saw this coming four 191 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 5: or five years ago. 192 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: What they've been able to do. It's it's it's out 193 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: of this world. 194 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 6: Well, what they beat House by two points, Blue Paramatter 195 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 6: away two points last year, But the main pain their hunger. 196 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: And here's a big reason his line speed. 197 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 6: You're watch him at all moments of the game, the 198 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 6: way he rallies, rallies the troops get him off the line, 199 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 6: and you know they're going to be so hard to 200 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 6: be And the question that they don't believe that they've 201 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 6: played their best yet, it's scary. I mean, like I said, saying, oh, look, 202 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 6: you know we played good last week or the week before. 203 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 6: You know, they believe this is going to be their 204 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 6: best performance. 205 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 5: But even though he talked of the brotherhood and he 206 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 5: didn't talk of it, but he referenced the team and 207 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 5: the brothers and you know, we can get better and 208 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 5: very humble, you know, and it makes me realize why 209 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 5: they are so good and why they are in this 210 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 5: position right like, very impressive, even Mitch talking the way 211 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 5: he spoke, the way he spoke about his club and 212 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 5: the way he spoke about his teammates. 213 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, and the fact is that there's no inside even 214 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 8: if they don't win this weekend. You know next year 215 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 8: they're going to be a Premiership thread again with Cleary 216 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 8: and Yeo and Edwards and all those guys still there. 217 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 8: Because every year we say, well, they've lost Chorus out, 218 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 8: they've lost Kickyard, they've lost Crichton, and look where they 219 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 8: end up. There's just they're in a it's a rare 220 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 8: dynasty that we're watching here and there is no end 221 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 8: point to this at the moment. That is a scary 222 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 8: thing for the rest of. 223 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: The in the moment. And they don't get ahead of 224 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: themselves with every answer. 225 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 5: You know, you just tell you that they were preparing 226 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 5: for this week, huge respect for the Sharks, and they're 227 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 5: ready to rock. 228 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 229 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 7: I read an interview with Nathan Cleary recently where he 230 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 7: spoke about a couple of years ago when he was 231 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 7: still cutting his teeth as a young player. He would 232 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 7: often go over games and he'd live it over in 233 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 7: his head and he would create little bit of noise 234 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 7: around it and he'd think what he could have done better. 235 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 7: But he said the best advice he was ever given 236 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 7: was just to play what's in front of you, and 237 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 7: don't worry about the games that have gone previously, in 238 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 7: the big moments that might not have worked out. Just 239 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 7: worry about seizing the here and now, and to your point, 240 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 7: from their breath, that's what they're doing so well. 241 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: I'm glad you gave Mitch Kenny a rap for his. 242 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 7: Lin speed because he's unsung and unfashionable in a lot 243 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 7: of ways. But the work he does defensively in the 244 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 7: middle of the field and the way that he sets 245 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 7: the tone for that team to come flying off the 246 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 7: line and just suffocate opposition attacks, it's brilliant. 247 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 6: Well that little kick, there's no doubt he's going to 248 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 6: get better with the football, but he can't. 249 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: And he followed happy chorus. 250 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 6: They're probably the best deception in the game since Bennie 251 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 6: lives and then he followed it. I think he's such 252 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 6: a tough, tenacious player, but every week he's getting better 253 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 6: with the football, and god, sky's a limit. You know what, 254 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 6: he wouldn't look out of place, you know, if the 255 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 6: old fashioned way when you pick the Australian team after 256 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 6: if he has two two really good games, and he 257 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 6: would look out of place in the train. 258 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: Wouldn't let anybody down, no question. 259 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 5: Everything we've just spoken about in terms of the pend 260 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 5: of Panthers and their players and their success, a lot 261 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 5: of the credit has to go to their coach. 262 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 2: I've and Cleary. 263 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 5: Now, if they go and win four Premierships in a row, 264 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 5: where does this hold Ivan Cleary in terms of the 265 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 5: history of the game, the coaches that have gone before, 266 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 5: where does he stand. 267 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 7: Well, you've got to go back to Saint George eleven 268 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 7: in a row, never before and never again. That's the 269 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 7: last coach who was a coach was that non prova 270 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 7: He was captain coach with a famous red V. That 271 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 7: is the last coach who, according to the record books, 272 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 7: won four Premierships straight. If I ever makes this Grand Final, 273 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 7: don't forget they were beaten the first time that they 274 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 7: made the GF against Melbourne. The last coach who made 275 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 7: five straight Grand Finals was Clive Churchill. So there's two 276 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 7: mortals of the game. 277 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: Ivan. 278 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 7: A lot of the time he probably doesn't get the 279 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 7: wraps that he deserves, but certainly if they make five. 280 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 5: Is that because whenever there's coach of the his name 281 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 5: doesn't get me because he's young. 282 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: Is that why because he's as well in his fifties. 283 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: He's younger than Wayne. Is it because he's younger than 284 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 2: Jack young younger than Craig? 285 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 6: No, But I mean because Craigs well coach for twenty 286 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 6: years at one club, Wayne nine hundred games. You get 287 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 6: Jack Gibson that you know was old and had been 288 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 6: at a couple of clubs. I think I than because 289 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 6: he's at Penrith. I think they thought Wayne had a 290 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 6: superstar side like they did once Wayne left, his legacy 291 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 6: got bigger. 292 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 5: Is it because he's quiet and he doesn't have the 293 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 5: relationships with the media maybe that other coaches have. 294 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 8: I think, yeah, there's definitely that element to it. Doesn't 295 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 8: court headlines. He very rarely ruffles too many feathers in 296 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 8: his postgame press conferences, and he's a very measured, kind 297 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 8: of boring publicly for us to deal with. But I 298 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 8: think the best comparison is probably Trent Robinson. Right, everyone's 299 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 8: had Trent Robinson on a pedal stalre for so long, 300 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 8: but I haven'ts gone past him now. He's not at 301 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 8: Bellamy and Bennett levels yet, right, But he's tracking to 302 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 8: get is he? 303 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 7: If he wins four? I disagree that in that if 304 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 7: he wins four yet, well then he is on par 305 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 7: as being in the same conversation. And I know they've 306 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 7: coached a lot more games, and I know that consistently 307 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 7: they've had their teams in the finals on more occasions. 308 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 3: But four comps in a row that is a phenomenal 309 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 3: achievement in a salary cap era. That is incredible. 310 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 8: He becomes a modern coaching great, no doubt. I'm not 311 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 8: trying to sit here and underplay the significance of it, right, 312 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 8: And by the end of his career he might go 313 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 8: past Bennett and Bellamy because that's the way he's tracking 314 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 8: at the moment, because he's still got ten. It was 315 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 8: I haven't always said that he didn't want to coach 316 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 8: for a long time. I think it was after that 317 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 8: that first premiership he was sort of talking end points already. 318 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 8: How can you stop now when the going as good 319 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 8: as this? 320 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: We were talking in the green room. 321 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 6: If you've gave Wayne Craig, Bellamy, Ivan, let's say Trent 322 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 6: Robinson the same team at the beginning of the year. 323 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: I think Craig beats me in my opinion. 324 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's well warranted given his record over the 325 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 7: course of time, but at the same time. 326 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: To achieve with this. 327 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 7: I think part of the reason why he doesn't get 328 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 7: a lot of raps Broath and he did win a 329 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 7: Dally M Coach of the Year over the course of 330 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 7: the last couple of seasons is because he can be 331 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 7: a little bit aloof and he can come across as 332 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 7: a little bit. 333 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: Tricky to interpret where. 334 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: He's going at times. 335 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 7: And I think he could count his allies and friends 336 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 7: in the media probably on one hand, whereas other coaches 337 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 7: who've been around for a long time enjoy strong appause 338 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 7: with multiple members of the media ex players, whoever it 339 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 7: may be. I also think the way that he left 340 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 7: West Tigers and people go, oh, you're just a crazy 341 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 7: Tigers fan who's still got shit in your Libit. 342 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: No the way, but the way that he left West Tigers, there's. 343 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 7: No doubt that that did leave a lot of people 344 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 7: with a bad taste in their I think the images 345 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 7: of Ivan and Nathan then winning premierships people then appreciate and. 346 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: Have a better understanding of his reasoning. 347 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 7: But at the same time he did still say either 348 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 7: get on the bus or get off the bus, and 349 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 7: that's about as colorful as well. 350 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: That's what makes him unique. Though he's not like every 351 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: other coach. You don't need to be way does his 352 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: own way, and that's fine. 353 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 5: You look at his it did take him a while 354 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 5: to get to this point and he was compared to 355 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 5: Brian Smith because he couldn't get the job done. 356 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: And he's he's definitely got it done. But he doesn't even. 357 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 6: Somewhere like Paramatta the Warriors when the Newcastle went to 358 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 6: somewhere like where they haven't won for a long time 359 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 6: and he wins. I think he's undoubtedly goes down with 360 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 6: some of the greatest scored money going on when Wayne 361 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 6: Bennett and the Broncos will winning and Old was part 362 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 6: of it. 363 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: He's got a superstar side. He should win every year. 364 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: If you look at Penrith, well there's no doubt they 365 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: have the best players, don't they? But did they? 366 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: But he's helped set that system up. 367 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 8: He's but we're arguing over guys that are going to 368 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 8: be greats, right the two of greats already Wayne and 369 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 8: Craiger arguably the best coaches we've ever had. Ivan might 370 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 8: get there and if he wins four Premierships in a row, 371 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 8: he joins that conversation straight away. There's no doubt about that. 372 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 8: So he's and he could surpass them because he's got 373 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 8: if he wants, He's got ten or fifteen years left 374 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 8: in the game minimum, and the way he's going, I 375 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 8: just back to Gordy's point, I just don't see him 376 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 8: ever coaching against Penrith, particularly one Nathan. He would never 377 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 8: coach against Nathan, right, So his task has to be 378 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 8: is to rebuild that roster and regenerate that. But he's 379 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 8: done an exceptional job. 380 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 5: Let's see how it plays out over the next few weeks. 381 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 5: Mean of the moment, Bradon Trindle is happy to take 382 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 5: some pressure off Niko Hines as he repays the faith 383 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 5: to Craig fitz Gibbn. 384 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 10: I just wanted to go in and take a bit 385 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 10: of pressure off him with the kicking and make sure 386 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 10: he's doing what he does best is running the ball 387 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 10: and attacking. So yeah, I just wanted to take a 388 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 10: bit of pressure off with the kicking and a few 389 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 10: other duties in the game. 390 00:16:58,560 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: But I still thought he played really well. 391 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 10: A lot of hard work that's gone on beyond the 392 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 10: scenes and to get myself right, but yeah, unbelievable to 393 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 10: be in this position right now. Hopefully I'm earning a 394 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 10: bit of trust back. 395 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: From the boys. 396 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's why I'm Yeah, I open to play some 397 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 10: good footing and repaying with that. 398 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: Last week, Jimmy Hoopert was in the lab. 399 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 5: This week, Michael Carriana Sus spent the day Fox League Lab. 400 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: Can you talk us through what you come up with today? 401 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 8: Yeah, I got in there and dusted my fingerprints off 402 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 8: and cracked some computers open, and this is what we 403 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 8: came up. But it's pretty interesting when you look at 404 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 8: the impact of Nico Heines and Braiden Trindle. So the 405 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 8: first start is before Nico Heines's injury, and he was 406 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 8: touching the ball sixty four times a game compared to 407 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 8: just forty for braid and Trindle. Since Nico's come back, 408 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 8: you look at those numbers and you can see Nico 409 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 8: is still having more involvement, so involvements not significantly reduced, 410 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 8: but look at that twenty eight percent rise in Braiden 411 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 8: Trindle and how much he's getting his hands on the ball. 412 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 8: Nico is still the dominant playmaker, but you're seeing the 413 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 8: influence and the shift, I guess focus of Cronulla's attack 414 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 8: with Braidon Trindle now being more pivotal. 415 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 5: Only the numbers, it's the quality as well, and he 416 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 5: goes still getting a lot of touches, but he's been 417 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 5: playing quite safe and just a distributing really moment where 418 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 5: Trindle's picked up his numbers. Not only has he picked 419 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 5: up his numbers, but his dominance in the way he's 420 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 5: executing and also the quality of players that he's that 421 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 5: he's executing at. 422 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 7: Well, He's now running the side. There's no questions whatsoever. 423 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 7: Braiden is the chief playmaker. And that performance last weekend 424 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 7: that was out of this world. And to think that 425 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 7: he's only on three hundred thousand dollars a year, he's 426 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 7: going to absolutely go through. 427 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: But this is like, I'm a bit skeptical of this 428 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 2: right now. 429 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 5: And there's been a lot of talk about Braiden, and 430 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 5: rightly so, because he was, like you said, out of 431 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 5: this world and sensational and it was the game. 432 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 2: Of his life. Yep. 433 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: But you think it's only one game, if I'm not. 434 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: Saying I think it's only one games. 435 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 5: He's been solid all year, you know, and he's worth 436 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 5: a hell of a lot more than three hundred He's 437 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 5: worth five hundred easy right plus. But this week if 438 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 5: Penrith go and just clean the slate and win by 439 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 5: thirty or forty and he doesn't play that well, are 440 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 5: we still having this conversation? 441 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: Give them what's at stake. 442 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 7: As good as Penrith are, it's a prelim final. I 443 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 7: don't see the score line quite blowing out by that magnitude. 444 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: Do you think there's going to be a bitting war 445 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: regardless for starters. 446 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 7: I don't see the scoreline blowing out by that magnitude. 447 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 7: But to your initial question, I think absolutely. He is 448 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 7: going to be one of the most in demand halves 449 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 7: in the game. And I think he's also a genuine seven. 450 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 7: He's wearing the six on his back at the moment. 451 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 7: To me, I've watched enough of him. I love his 452 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 7: backstory as a country kid from where he wore, he 453 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 7: had to go to Southeast Coinsland to get opportunities. He 454 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 7: was in the Melbourne storm system, then got to start 455 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 7: at the Sharks. 456 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 3: He's had to do it a little bit. He's had 457 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: to do it the hard way. 458 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 6: If his forward stand up to Penrith and give him 459 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 6: the same opportunities and he doesn't ice any of them. 460 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 2: Of course we say no. 461 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 6: But if he gets the same my opportunities and he 462 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 6: has the same game, where we go, Yeah, but it's 463 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 6: up to his forward, but brave. Very few complay on 464 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 6: the back foot. Dally Cherry Evers did it against the 465 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 6: Bulldogs and he got him home. 466 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 5: It's been a long time. I was on seven, eight 467 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 5: hundred and nine hundred to a million camp. Yes, that's 468 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 5: my point. 469 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 8: I'm understand it. That's the other guy completely what you're saying. 470 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 8: I know what you're saying there break because you know 471 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 8: he's a November one guy. He's only got the rest 472 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 8: of his season to prove if he wants to go 473 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 8: to market what his value will be before the start 474 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 8: of next season. If he leads Cronulla to a Grand Final, 475 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 8: then obviously he's going to earn more than double than what. 476 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 5: He's on at the moment, which leads us Hoops to 477 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 5: Dave Riccio's conversation last night. 478 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 2: There was a feeling from me that he had spoken 479 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: to people at Cronella. I'm not putting words into his mouth, 480 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: but that was the feeling I had. 481 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 5: And he mentioned that Nico will most likely landed one 482 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 5: or six full back or five, eight and no longer 483 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 5: seven moving forward? 484 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 7: Thoughts on that, Well, Dave very well connected at Cronella, 485 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 7: that's his club, so it sounds as though that's probably 486 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 7: bang on the money. I guess the question that the 487 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 7: Sharks have got to ask themselves is they signed Nicko 488 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 7: Hines on a seven year monster deal at a million 489 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 7: dollars a season after he won the Daian Medal. 490 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 3: If he's not going to be as effective as what 491 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 3: he was when. 492 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 7: He won the Daian Medal, do they need to sit 493 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 7: down and look at renegotiating that because he's still worth 494 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 7: if Nicko remains in the form that he's in at 495 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 7: the moment, I don't think he's a million dollars negotiate. 496 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: Buzz said this last Monday. 497 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 5: Remember he came in and he said that, and I've 498 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 5: got to feel an eails some people at Coronella, and 499 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 5: he said that they wanted to connected the sit down 500 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 5: and renegotiate. 501 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: That was That's exactly what he said. It can't be done, 502 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: I know, but that's. 503 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 8: What There's no way they're going to sit there. Nicko 504 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 8: is going to go, well, he's a couple of hundred 505 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 8: thousand dollars back the first that I've known to have 506 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 8: actually done it exactly right to actually leave a club 507 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 8: for for significant less money. But I don't see that happening. 508 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 8: And more to Dave's point is the fact that he's 509 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 8: already playing in that role. Now. We just saw the 510 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 8: numbers of how much Braiden Trendle's dominating at the moment and. 511 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 7: Wasn't wasn't I thought those numbers they were a little 512 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 7: bit but misleading. 513 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 8: But yeah, significant change from the start of the season 514 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 8: to now. 515 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 3: And he was having eleven more touches. 516 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 8: That's correlated with it's not. 517 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 7: A lot over the corsleve more touches, but we can 518 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 7: we can all see I wouldn't let you near the lab. 519 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: I'm surprised the lab was still out. 520 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 7: I thought i'd nearly blanted up. We can all see 521 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 7: that Braiden is clearly playing a far. 522 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 2: More hoops organized eleven overall, that's on average, that's. 523 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 8: Average per game. 524 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 3: Maybe I need to just understand the numbers, but probably 525 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: explained that. 526 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 2: So last week would have been even bigger. Yeah, I 527 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: would imagine. 528 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 8: While while Braiden's playing the hot hand at the moment, 529 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 8: I don't think we should criticize Nico so much, But 530 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 8: Niko is going to need to stand up and deliver 531 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 8: this week because Brad is not going to be able 532 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 8: to do it by himself. But when you're playing in 533 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 8: the harves break, if your teammate has a hot hand, 534 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 8: aren't you And that's what's going on here. 535 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: The thing is they need two hot hands. 536 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 8: He needs he needs and he needs to break the 537 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 8: game open. That's probably been the criticism of Nico of like, 538 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 8: it doesn't look like he's making a line break. It 539 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 8: doesn't look like he's that running. 540 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 5: Why the criticism not because you do watch it and 541 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 5: you don't really see a threat all. 542 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 8: You don't see it, which is very unusual for him. 543 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 7: Could he make the transition back to full back break? 544 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 7: To Dave's point from last night, he clearly looks as 545 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 7: though he is carrying an injury at the moment. Most 546 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 7: players are, and when you're on that sort of money, 547 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 7: you've got to be prepared to play at this stage 548 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 7: of the season. 549 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 3: But he set the world on fire. And this was 550 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 3: when we first got to know the name. 551 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 7: Nicko Hines was as a fullback replacing Ryan Papenhausen at 552 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 7: the Melbourne Storm after a number of seasons in the halves, 553 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 7: could he go. 554 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: Back, could he transition back to that? 555 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: Of course he could. 556 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: Well that more suit is going better. 557 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, but then what happens to Kennedy? 558 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 3: You know? 559 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: And we're going to win a. 560 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 7: Got to ask themselves a question. Are we going to 561 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 7: win a camp with these blakes in, these keepers? 562 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 2: Yes? 563 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 5: Well, that's why this game is so big for the 564 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 5: club and for the players that are in. All these 565 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 5: players now really want to ice this moment. It's going 566 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 5: to be hard, right But even if they come close, 567 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 5: I think they keep the same team. If they're competing 568 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 5: with Penrith in a prelium final and they goes down 569 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 5: to the wire, I don't think they make too much 570 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 5: significant change. 571 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: I really don't. 572 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 3: They've had a good season if that is how it 573 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 3: plays out. 574 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 5: All right now, Confusion rains over Kaylon Ponger's Kangaroo's snub. 575 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 5: We spoke about story broke yesterday afternoon and we couldn't 576 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 5: quite understand it. There's been a lot that's been said 577 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 5: about this what's happening here. 578 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 8: There's still a lot to unparck with this story. But 579 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 8: the news is that Kaylin reached out to Malmaninger today 580 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 8: and there's no doubt mal is furious and the pit 581 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 8: of Landers and the hierarchy at the Commission. We're furious 582 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 8: the fact that Kaylan has pulled out of the Kangaroos. 583 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 8: Not only that he pulled out the fact that he 584 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 8: didn't reach out to Mount yesterday to inform him of 585 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 8: the decision. And off the back of that, there's been 586 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 8: you know, threats of sanctions towards Kaylen Ponger and the Knights, 587 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 8: and potential of him. 588 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 7: Trying to disseminate what's actually going on in amongst these 589 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 7: two leaves break. 590 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: I think Kylen's taking the piss. 591 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 7: We went and had a look today at some interviews 592 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 7: that he's done previously with New Zealand television and he 593 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 7: speaks openly and glowingly about what a passionate and proud 594 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 7: Mary and Key. 595 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 2: We let's have a look. Let's have look now. 596 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 11: If I was to go back to OBN, I'd probably 597 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 11: want to strive for that black Jump. I think it's 598 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 11: a pinnacle for they are. They're the best sporting organization 599 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 11: in the world, the way they hold themselves and their values, 600 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 11: and then it's just the little things they do meet them, 601 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 11: you know, that step above everyone else, So that will 602 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 11: be pretty special. 603 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: Not a Kiwi jumper. 604 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 12: And if there's a possibility, is there ben All Black jumper? 605 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 12: Well jeez, that's that's you know, something different again, delving 606 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 12: into a different world again. So yeah, that would messive. 607 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 12: But I'm thinking for myself, no one else. 608 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 5: There's the foot he s here, that's Kaylen and his 609 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 5: father slash manager talking about his passion to play for 610 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 5: the All Blacks. 611 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: How do you relate that to this? 612 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 7: Well, Calen's parents are proud Kiwi, so they're more entitled 613 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 7: to than not to want their son to represent New Zealand. 614 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 7: Where I think he's taking the pierce is As recently 615 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 7: as last weekend he was on radio saying that he 616 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 7: wanted to play for Australia. Well, I just don't believe 617 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 7: speaking to people today, I don't believe that to be 618 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 7: the case. I think he's got the wrong people around. 619 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 3: Him and in his ear. 620 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 7: I think they're giving him bad advice and I think 621 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 7: that they have put it in his head that you 622 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 7: know what, maybe you don't want to represent Australia, So 623 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 7: just put a statement out saying that you don't want 624 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 7: to wear the Green and Gold is. 625 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 6: The game at fault here where because Sonny Bill Williams 626 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 6: was such a player and state of origin missed him, 627 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 6: there's always they to talk about him and Sam Burgess 628 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 6: where state of origin is the pinnacle. 629 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: And now you look at Luan. 630 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 6: Guys that play for new will play for Some, play 631 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 6: for Queensland, play for Tonga, play for Queensland, play for 632 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 6: Fiji because we've opened up. Is that a pendor there 633 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 6: where he wants to play origin? I actually don't want 634 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 6: to play for Australia, do you reckon? 635 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 7: That's if you play Origin, you should have to play 636 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 7: for it. It has to be unless you're a tier 637 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 7: two nation like SMA or Tonga. But the rules at 638 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 7: the moment though, yeah. 639 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that. 640 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 6: But if you're playing against Australia, you're tier one. Tongue 641 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 6: beats some are, I mean tongue beat Australia. So they're 642 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 6: not tier two. 643 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: Anymore in my eyes. 644 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 6: If you want all those great players to go play from, 645 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 6: they're tier one. They're playing for their country. They're not 646 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 6: tier two. They're not second class. They're in the they're 647 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 6: in the top grade. So have we made a mistake 648 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 6: trying to build state of origin upsode much trying to 649 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 6: get the best athletes in that game. 650 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 2: But then they don't want to play for Australia. 651 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 7: Well the answer is yes because and this is one 652 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 7: of the cases in point, is that Caylen, clearly as 653 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 7: a young teenager coming through was in the Cowboy system. 654 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 7: Jonathan Thurston was captain of that team. He's got stars 655 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 7: in his eyes about want to play for Queensland, don't figure. 656 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: Look, he moved to MacKaye when he. 657 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 7: Was a teenager, was born in Western Australia, then moved 658 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 7: back to New Zealand, was a gun golfer, grew up 659 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 7: over there until his teenage years, and then when he 660 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 7: went to Makai, well that's when he fell in love 661 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 7: with rugby league. That's how he qualifies for Queensland. But 662 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 7: I just find I think the whole thing makes a 663 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 7: mockery of the Green and Gold Jumper, and the Green 664 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 7: and Gold Jumper needs to be the absolute pinnacle of 665 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 7: what Australian rugby league represents and stands for, and I 666 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 7: think Calen has done that a disservice by handling this 667 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 7: the way that he is. 668 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 5: Mick, you mentioned Malo wasn't happy about it. Peter Velandis 669 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 5: didn't seem too happy about it either. 670 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 8: In the NFL, Yeah, they're not happy at all. They're 671 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 8: threatening to ban Callum Ponger from from games next season. 672 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 8: That's definitely one option that the NRL will consider. But 673 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 8: it's it's interesting if the NRL do go down that 674 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 8: path because we see players pull out of some other 675 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 8: nations as well that aren't Australia. We see players pull 676 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 8: out of some ow and Tonga and those sort of 677 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 8: nations as well, So it's going to blur the line 678 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 8: significantly if a club is punished. 679 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: But those players can't play Origin, right. 680 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, jran I can play Origin, Steven. 681 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 5: Is there a chance that they could because last night 682 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 5: Paul Crawley said that they should issue punished from Origin 683 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 5: from missing Queensland. 684 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 2: When I first heard that, I thought it was a 685 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: bit severe. 686 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 5: But then as this sort of goes on and you think, well, 687 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 5: did he just nominate to play for Coensland for Australia 688 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 5: so that he can play for Queensland or I don't know, 689 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 5: is there a chance of punishment being Origin or for. 690 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 8: Sure there is. All these things are available to the 691 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 8: NRL at the moment is a band at club level, 692 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 8: a band at the representative level, which his Australia potentially 693 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 8: and Origin as well. So there are all these things 694 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 8: that are open and maybe. 695 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 6: Just Club le Queensland outlay for New Zealand. 696 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 8: No you can't because a couple of years ago, I 697 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 8: remember that one off Nines tournament that. 698 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 2: Was in vogue. 699 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 8: He played for Australia in the Nines tournament and that's it. 700 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 8: So they've gone back now and looked at the tape, 701 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 8: I guess, and made that rule in the fact that 702 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 8: because there will whispers, significant whispers today that maybe Klan 703 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 8: wanted to play for the Kiwis in the end of 704 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 8: the season or long term and he would have been 705 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 8: allowed to do that because you can't play Origin after 706 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 8: you played for the Kiwis. But because he's played Origin, 707 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 8: he's still eligible for the Keywis, not for Australia. But 708 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 8: going back and looking at this footage now that that 709 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 8: was shown, the fact that no, he can't play for 710 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 8: the key with now because of those things, even though 711 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 8: they won't proper test matches, So it's a it's a 712 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 8: bit blurry there. 713 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 7: I from Melmaninger both i'd said an example, I'd just 714 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 7: give him life, Just put the red pen through him. 715 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 7: You don't know where the green and gold, Okay, no problem, 716 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 7: guess what we've got. Dylan Edwards, Reese Walsh, Tommy Turbo, 717 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 7: James Tedesco, Latrell Mitchell. They're all happy to wear the 718 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 7: Green and gold. 719 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 3: So if you don't want to. 720 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 7: And you're not injured, and there's been no decent reasoning 721 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 7: provided as to why, aside from our I want to 722 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 7: win a premiership with Newcastle, well, every player wants to 723 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 7: win a premiership at NRL club level, and most players right, 724 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 7: players who never get the opportunity to play in the 725 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 7: NRL but play in New Southwest Cup, Ron Massive Sydney Shield. 726 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 7: They saw an arm or a leg off to be 727 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 7: in the conversation. Correct, they're not getting paid that money. 728 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: If he was on probably five might be a different story. 729 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 5: But you would have thought him and his team would 730 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 5: have thought about this a lot more than what they have. 731 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 8: It just doesn't seem more strange and it's taken Newcastle 732 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 8: by surprise because apparently Kaylin and Brad mcvess is also 733 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 8: in that kangaroo squad have been trained together in preparation 734 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 8: potentially to be picked, but they only made the decision 735 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 8: yesterday when a kangaroo a few she was reached out 736 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 8: to the clubs to tell him that he was in 737 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 8: the squad. 738 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: All right, watch this space. 739 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 5: Thank you, Miek think you hoops up next in the 740 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 5: Legends Agenda with Ben Elias and Steve Roach, and Sunday 741 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 5: at six the Fox League Awards for Rugby League Excellence 742 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 5: with Fletch Heindi and Cooper John's The Foxings, brought to 743 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 5: you by the Monopoly game at Makers