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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Moto GP Pit Talk, and boy do

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Speaker 1: we have some catching up to do. The tigrond Frie

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Speaker 1: was so hot I could agrelled a steak in pit lane.

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Speaker 1: Argentina gave us the Tango of drama and overtakes, and

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Speaker 1: now we're looking ahead to coda with the bumps on

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Speaker 1: the circuit are the real track limits?

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Speaker 2: Joining me your host, Ronita.

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Speaker 1: Vanmilan, as always is Matt Clayton, the human Moto GP encyclopedia.

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Speaker 1: If there's a stat to be known, he's got it,

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Speaker 1: and if there's a bad pun to be made, he's

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Speaker 1: probably got that too. Matt, Happy New Year. It's been

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Speaker 1: a while since we've chatted all things Moto GP.

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Speaker 3: It is happy new season. I'm glad to see that

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Speaker 3: you survived Thailand and appropriately hydrated, of course, because it

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Speaker 3: was hot enough watching it from the couch, so I

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Speaker 3: can't even imasure what you were doing running around at

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Speaker 3: the back of the paddock there. But yeah, bit to

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Speaker 3: catch up on. We're two rounds into a twenty two

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Speaker 3: round season. It's like we've played the same movie twice

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Speaker 3: in the first two rounds. But I think we probably

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Speaker 3: saw this coming a little way away. But I think

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Speaker 3: what's going to happen next is the more intriguing part

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Speaker 3: of all of this.

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Speaker 1: Before we touch on Coder and the King of Coder,

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Speaker 1: as I've been plastering all over social media lately, I

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Speaker 1: think let's touch back on Thailand and Argentina, and like

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Speaker 1: you said, it was pretty much the same storyline. Mark

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Speaker 1: Marquez has come out of the gates, dominating this year

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Speaker 1: pole sprint victory and the main Grand Prix winner both

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Speaker 1: round one and round two. We kind of knew this

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Speaker 1: was going to happen, but I thought Peco might have

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Speaker 1: given him a bit more of a run for his.

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Speaker 3: Money, and I think that he will in time. I

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Speaker 3: don't think anyone that's expecting this season to just be

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Speaker 3: a complete Marquez whitewash from start to finish, I don't

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Speaker 3: think that's really realistic. I think there were some extenuating

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Speaker 3: circumstances with both these first two races, and you would

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Speaker 3: have noticed this being on the ground in Thailand. I

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Speaker 3: think when you've had a test at the same track

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Speaker 3: and the long runs of a test always tends to

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Speaker 3: I wasn't simvilly surprised with the way that Thailand shook out,

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Speaker 3: And you got the sense in that race that you know,

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Speaker 3: Marquez was kind of playing with them a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I mean Banyai intimated as much in that. You know,

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Speaker 3: he cleared off at the front of the Grand Prix,

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Speaker 3: just decided to pull the pin for the last three laps.

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Speaker 3: So that was reasonably predictable. I think what was interesting Argentina, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we got the same Mark Marque Alex Marquez second result.

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Speaker 3: That was a really different race for me Argentina in

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Speaker 3: that I think Mark was pushed and you could see

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Speaker 3: that he made a mistake early in the race, sat

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Speaker 3: behind Alex for a bit, but this wasn't I'm choosing

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Speaker 3: to sit behind Alex. He went for a pass about

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Speaker 3: halfway through the race, couldn't make it stick and then

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Speaker 3: so probably inside the last ten laps, and it's like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 3: he's really pushing here. Because we've never seen Alex Marquez

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Speaker 3: ride like this Emotor GP. He's riding at an incredibly

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Speaker 3: greatest rider in the history of the World Championship to

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Speaker 3: beat him on it that he's very very good at.

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Speaker 3: So huge qutos to Alex Marquez what he's done in

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Speaker 3: these first couple of rounds. But yeah, we see Sprinton

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Speaker 3: Grand Prix win for Mark in both rounds so far,

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Speaker 3: but to me they were two they were the same

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Speaker 3: result achieved two different ways. And look, you mentioned Kocher

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Speaker 3: Other than the Saxon Ring, it's the strongest circuit that

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Speaker 3: he has. But I don't think this is going to

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Speaker 3: be the narrative for the entire season because we know

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Speaker 3: how Peko works, right. We saw this last year. He

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Speaker 3: On one hundred and fourth time the rock splits. That's

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Speaker 3: the Peco Badyay way of going about things. And you

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Speaker 3: then is does Mark Marquez have another level on that bike?

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Speaker 3: We know how good he can be, But I don't

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Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on Pecu Banyaya talking about the engine,

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Speaker 1: and it seems like now he's wanting to go back

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Speaker 1: to the twenty four model big and clearly it's working.

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Speaker 1: Look at Alex Marquez, what's your thoughts on that? Is

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Speaker 1: that him trying to say that the direction they've headed

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Speaker 3: Little bit of colum A and B I reckon for

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Speaker 3: that in that when you are not performing, when you're

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Speaker 3: with your ride Bot to GP motor Cycles. We like

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Speaker 3: to go back to what we know. There's a comfort

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Speaker 3: he won eleven of the twenty Grand Prix last year

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Speaker 3: this season. So when things perhaps aren't going so well,

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Speaker 3: you want to revert back to what you know, because

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Speaker 3: It's up to me to get to the bike's level.

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Speaker 3: I think the looking a bit further forward, there's a

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Speaker 3: one day ten after her Wrath, which is round five.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing my maths correctly. That'll be really important as

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Speaker 3: you mentioned Thailand, Mark's been really good there over the

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Speaker 3: journey Argentina. Bizarrely hadn't raced it Argentina since twenty nineteen

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Speaker 3: including last year, and that's going to be I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: And this is the way Banyai works. He's not just

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Speaker 3: he rolls. And that's what I love about this World

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Speaker 3: styles make fights. It's like a boxing analogy. In that

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Speaker 3: last year, Juge Martin had a certain way he was

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Speaker 3: but they came at it from completely different angles, which

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Speaker 3: a guy who grinds his way through problems and works

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Speaker 3: and I think he will level that gap. But you

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Speaker 3: couldn't really pick a worse trio of circuits for the

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Speaker 3: fastest bike in the field. Because so far it's gone

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Speaker 3: pretty much as we expected.

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Speaker 1: Well, I wasn't expecting Alex Marquez to be so close

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Speaker 1: know factory decaddies, we know their strength. But I was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting with Alex. There's a couple of things

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Speaker 3: you mentioned. Did you You mentioned Franko Morbidelli, who was

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Speaker 3: has been injured. He missed a lot of the preseason

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Speaker 3: after he busted his collarbone doing whey in Malaysia. Oh boy,

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Speaker 3: that's not one that he's going to want to put

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Speaker 3: on the highlight reel. So he's nowhere near fully fit

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Speaker 3: and I think he will move forward. But it was

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Speaker 3: interesting after Argentina there was an interview with Dabadau tar

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Speaker 3: Dotzi and he said that this is just what Alex

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Speaker 3: Marquez does in that he takes a while to arrive,

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Speaker 3: as tar Dotsi put it, but then when he gets there,

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Speaker 3: slow burn won the World championship. Moto two slow burn

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Speaker 3: this is season six now for Alex in Motor GP.

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Speaker 3: This is the first time he's been on a bike

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Speaker 3: that has genuine weight race winning potential. He's always been

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Speaker 3: good at Argentina, so I wasn't surprised to see him

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Speaker 3: whether he's made this really big jump or not. He's

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Speaker 3: got a really poor record at Cota over the years,

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Speaker 3: and it could just be circumstantial or what he's been riding.

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Speaker 3: He was on Hondas for a while. If he's there

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Speaker 3: or there abouts this weekend, I don't think anyone's expecting

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Speaker 3: him to beat his older brother this weekend. But if

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Speaker 3: he's right in the mix. To me, that shows what

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Speaker 3: TARTOTSI was saying. It's this methodical build and then when

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Speaker 3: he gets there, he stays there. So to me, that's

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Speaker 3: one of the interesting stories about this weekend is this

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Speaker 3: bang in eight to ten podiums a season or was

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Speaker 3: he just an advantageous start at one a circuit that

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Speaker 3: he tested out and to a circuit that he's very

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Speaker 3: good at. I think Cota is going to answer a

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Speaker 3: lot of questions about Alex, but you can't deny what

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Speaker 3: he's done so far. He has been seriously impressive. Second

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Speaker 3: on the grid in both Grand Prix, second in both sprints. Second.

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Speaker 3: Basically he is the next best guy in motor GP.

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Speaker 3: Right now, that's not something I don't reckon that you

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Speaker 3: and I thought we'd be saying after two rounds.

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Speaker 1: You're so right talking about what Davide Tazots he was saying.

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Speaker 1: I heard a quote where I might have even been

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Speaker 1: tied dot. So he's saying, Mark Marquez is like a

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Speaker 1: turbo petrol engine thought to one hundred and we'll get

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Speaker 1: there as quick. Alex Marquez is a diesel engine takes

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Speaker 1: his time to build up, and I guess you're right.

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Speaker 1: I guess we're seeing that now. What we know what

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Speaker 1: the GV twenty fours are capable of winning world titles,

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Speaker 1: So no wonder he is up there. But morb Delli,

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Speaker 1: that's one I didn't necessarily think i'd say. But we

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Speaker 1: know he's a massive fan of South America. We saw

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Speaker 1: park firm is that the boost of confidence that he

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Speaker 3: won their final race incredibly emotional Day of Valencia in

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Speaker 3: twenty two, won a race on a Honda in twenty three,

431
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Speaker 3: but he's not being the same rider, and it doesn't

432
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,479
Speaker 3: look like it's getting better because I don't know if

433
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,560
Speaker 3: you can tell with him whether he still completely hasard

434
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,159
Speaker 3: or not, because he's so injury compromised. I mean, the

435
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 3: guy struggles to walk around the paddock. You would have

436
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,439
Speaker 3: seen this in thaire Land. Just getting around is really

437
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,640
Speaker 3: really hard. And you do wonder about the weight of

438
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Speaker 3: the mental toll that the physical injuries have exerted on him.

439
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,439
Speaker 3: Is he ever going to get back to what he was?

440
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,679
Speaker 3: And so yeah, like it's a super interesting question with

441
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 3: Jack because whether he keeps himself in that Pramac setup

442
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,440
Speaker 3: or whether they look at him as a short term

443
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 3: solution perhaps in the factory team. I will be stunned

444
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 3: if Jack's not on a Yamaha next year. No our contenty,

445
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,200
Speaker 3: which colour, whether it's a purple one or a blue one.

446
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,639
Speaker 3: I'll be super surprised if he's not on one of

447
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,479
Speaker 3: those two Yamahas next year. The Rin's question is who's

448
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 3: the successor If it's not him, right, who's the young

449
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,439
Speaker 3: guy they can get hold of, who believes in the

450
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,360
Speaker 3: Amaha project that's on the right timeline to come in

451
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Speaker 3: And it's sad with Alex Rance because we've seen, you know,

452
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Speaker 3: he went toe to toe with Mark Marquez to win

453
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Speaker 3: Grand Prix. He's a very, very good Grand Prix rider,

454
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Speaker 3: but he's just been so beat up for the last

455
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Speaker 3: few years because he tried to come back too soon.

456
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Speaker 3: So on a personal level, I hope he does get

457
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Speaker 3: back to what he was, but on the strength of

458
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Speaker 3: the last two years, it seems pretty unlikely, doesn't it.

459
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's why I thought about him.

460
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Speaker 1: And asked you that because we know Fabio is the

461
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Speaker 1: one that Yamaha wanted to take to win the championship.

462
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Speaker 1: We know that we can see that by what he's doing.

463
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 1: We see what Jack's doing, Shama, but Miguelbert sham about Alex.

464
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Speaker 1: I think that Yamaha are on their uptake and we're

465
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Speaker 1: starting to see that. But also let's talk about Honda

466
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Speaker 1: and their uptake this year.

467
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Speaker 2: John Zako in.

468
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Speaker 1: Argentina wild, I honestly, I didn't expect them to jump

469
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Speaker 1: that quickly. Shows that all the testing, everything they've been

470
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Speaker 1: doing in the off season has been paying off. But

471
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Speaker 1: the fact that it's Zarko doing it, I'm soaked that

472
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Speaker 1: Marini and Mea aren't tucking the front every time and

473
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Speaker 1: seeing crash come up everything. He laps in the Grand Prix,

474
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Speaker 1: but it's Zarko.

475
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Speaker 2: What's your take on that?

476
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Speaker 1: Is that just because he's been with LCI, is a

477
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Speaker 1: bit more comfortable and there's less.

478
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Speaker 2: Pressure for him.

479
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 3: Amazing what being the oldest rider on the grid and

480
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Speaker 3: riding for a contract does for you as well. He's

481
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Speaker 3: really good at Argentina. He's always been good there, but

482
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Speaker 3: it was super jarring, wasn't it? When you saw the

483
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Speaker 3: photo after qualifying in Argentina. You see Mark Marquez in

484
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Speaker 3: the middle, you see Alex Marquez next to him, and

485
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Speaker 3: there's a guy in some Honda overall standing in the

486
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Speaker 3: top three pictures, Like, what's going on here? Is like

487
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Speaker 3: this twenty eighteen all over again. But he's really good

488
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Speaker 3: at Argentina. Honda's made some serious gains this year and

489
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Speaker 3: there's some real low hanging fruit for them in terms

490
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Speaker 3: of where they can get better, because it's still a snail,

491
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 3: relatively speaking at Motor GP snail, but it's still shipping

492
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 3: ten k's an hour down the straight at most tracks

493
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Speaker 3: to all the other bikes, and yet he's Zarco third

494
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Speaker 3: on the grid. Is you know Jewan mir and Luca

495
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Speaker 3: Marini finishing in the top ten. I can't remember this

496
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Speaker 3: start off the top of my head. I should read

497
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Speaker 3: my own stories, but I think it was the first

498
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Speaker 3: time we'd had three Hondas in a top ten for

499
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Speaker 3: four years. And you think about it, like, since Marquez

500
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Speaker 3: got injured and then he was half back, and then

501
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 3: he's between surgeries, you just haven't seen many Hondas up

502
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Speaker 3: in the top ten for a while. And so your

503
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,199
Speaker 3: question about Zarko, I more answer that question looking at

504
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 3: the other two guys. Marini's a very, very technically astute

505
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Speaker 3: rider who wants to understand everything that's going on with

506
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Speaker 3: a bike before he pushes it, because that's the way

507
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 3: he's wired. That's why that's why Gerdo's loved talking to Marini,

508
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 3: because he can tell you every little detail of every

509
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 3: little thing in perfect English about what's going on. And

510
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 3: I admire Juan MirZ just I'm just going to push

511
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 3: this thing to its limits and probably beyond and end

512
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 3: up in the gravel somewhere, because that's what he does.

513
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 3: But there's no lack of trying with Juan. So you

514
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 3: look at the way those two HRC factory guys, I

515
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 3: nearly call them reps a Honda then, so you can

516
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Speaker 3: scrub that one off your bing go card. The fact

517
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Speaker 3: that they are behind Zarco, maybe it doesn't surprise me

518
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 3: as much because of the way they're wired, the two

519
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 3: of them, But that bike's clearly getting better. And Zako

520
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 3: was the first non Ducatty across the line in Argentina.

521
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 3: Now he was in sixth place, which tells you a

522
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 3: bit about Ucatti at the moment. But someone has to

523
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,479
Speaker 3: be best of the rest at the moment to think

524
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Speaker 3: we'd be talking about Honda as being second in the

525
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 3: Constructors Championship. I know it's only two rounds, but you

526
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 3: would have got pretty good odds of me saying that

527
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Speaker 3: before the season started.

528
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Speaker 1: Honestly, I thought we would be saying Pedro costa factory

529
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Speaker 1: ktmy taking it?

530
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: Did you, Caddy?

531
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Speaker 1: And let's go on to that because I don't know. Listeners,

532
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Speaker 1: if you've been reading the news or the room is

533
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: going around how Pedro is trying to get out of

534
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: his contract already, you can see he's not happy. Even

535
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: in a post race debrief. I just heard him say

536
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm not happy the results aren't there. This shouldn't be

537
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: like this. I don't necessarily think it's because of the

538
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: whole KTM Winter fiasco and everything that happened on the

539
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Speaker 1: business side. We know that KTM, though they kind of

540
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Speaker 1: go awaves, There'll be a while where they're really strong,

541
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Speaker 1: and then there's also times where they are just so

542
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Speaker 1: far from where they need to be.

543
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 2: But if they lose Pager or Costa, I feel.

544
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Speaker 1: Like they're losing their bet trying to take you Cuddy

545
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: for the championship.

546
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Speaker 3: He's the golden goose, isn't he. He's why you exist

547
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 3: as an operation like this. You've got the fastest, best

548
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: young guy, the guy who's been talked about as the

549
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 3: best rookie since Mark Marquez, and that worked out reasonably well.

550
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 3: He's a generational talent. You know, he won two world

551
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 3: titles before while he was still a teenager. It came

552
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 3: to Boto GP, you know, podiums in his first three races.

553
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 3: He had a start to his Voter GP career that

554
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 3: we were talking about. This is in the same conversation

555
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 3: as Jorge Lorenzo. This is in the same conversation as

556
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 3: Casey Stoner. That's how good he was at the start

557
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 3: of the season. We know he's on pole position. He

558
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: crashed from a few advantageous positions, but this year they

559
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 3: have been not very quick. He threw it down the

560
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: road in Thailand when you were there. It's chewing its tires.

561
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: There's a lot wrong with that bike at the moment,

562
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 3: and it's easy, like you were saying, to draw the parallel.

563
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 3: They had a lot of off track instability and the

564
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 3: financial situation with the parent company, which has been eyned

565
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 3: out to a degree. Everyone within the race teams has

566
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: said no, that's not affected us, okay, So basically, if

567
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 3: they've said that, then they're either doing a good pr

568
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 3: jor whether they believe it to be true. So if

569
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 3: it's not that, then what's going on with this bike?

570
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: Because you've got the situation at the moment, a Costa

571
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: can get a lap out of it because his pedro

572
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: Coster is amazing. Brad Binder has never been the greatest

573
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: qualifier of all time, but he's also the sort of

574
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: guy who'll take eleven risks on the first lap and

575
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 3: be inside the top six and then defend like hell.

576
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Speaker 3: You get the sense that Binda's riding to the limit

577
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 3: of the bike, which is a pretty low limit. A

578
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 3: cost is trying to push beyond the limit of the

579
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 3: bike and the frustration mounts. It's one of the things

580
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 3: we love about a Cost. He's got this sort of

581
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: urgent personality about him and that he wants everything yesterday,

582
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: like all twenty year olds. But he is contracting to

583
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 3: the end of twenty six, and to my mind, that's

584
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 3: super interesting because there's not many seats that are up

585
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: for grabs for twenty six, but we mentioned one of

586
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: them before, the Franco Morbidelli seat at VR forty six.

587
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: And I'm sure there will be some sort of performance

588
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 3: clause in that contract that if Katm's not achieving certain

589
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: things by certain times, that he maybe could look around

590
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 3: or become a free agent. We know that his management's

591
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 3: been sort of rattling the cage a little bit in

592
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: these first couple of rounds. If you're another manufacturer, say

593
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: you're Decaddie, and you get a chance to get hold

594
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: of Pedro Acosta, there's two benefits there. A you get

595
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 3: hold of Pedro Acosta, but you stop anyone else from

596
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 3: having Pedro Acosta, So it's almost like two benefits in one.

597
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: There's only one Dacaddy seat available for next year as

598
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 3: we speak, and so if he was able to wriggle

599
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 3: himself loose, then Valentino ROSSI might have to make a

600
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 3: decision do I drop my protege and the guy I

601
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 3: brought up through the academy in Franco Morbidelli to sign

602
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 3: the best young talent and motor GP. There's no right

603
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 3: or rock answer to that question if it comes true.

604
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 3: But KATM can stop all of this if they get

605
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 3: on top of what they're doing. And you know, look,

606
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 3: it was in the US last year where a Costa's like, Wow,

607
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 3: he's leading a race for the first time, he's on

608
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 3: the podium. He's finishing second to only behind Maverick Vinalees.

609
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: It's like this guy he came in with this huge hype,

610
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 3: and three rounds in it's like, oh, he's actually better

611
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: than we thought he was and this year has been

612
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 3: pretty ordinary. So they're going to need to turn that

613
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 3: around pretty quickly because these stories of humagitating to go elsewhere,

614
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: whether they're being planted by his management or some sympathetic media,

615
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 3: they're just going to get louder, aren't they.

616
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 2: They are going to get louder.

617
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: And I think that it's kind of overlooking the fact

618
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: of what you said about Brad Linder, but also Maverick

619
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Speaker 1: and Air, and you know they're trying to adjust to

620
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: a new new team, new bike.

621
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Speaker 2: Knew everything.

622
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: I read that Maverick's having a new I want to

623
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: say a new bike, but obviously new parts and everything coming.

624
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 1: For Coder, He's openly said, I know I'm not going

625
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: to win this weekend, but I'm going to try my best.

626
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to try and improve for KTM. That's bad

627
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: when they're saying we know we we're going to win,

628
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: but we're just going to try and be the best

629
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: of the rest. Never thought I'd be saying that about

630
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: KTM in twenty twenty five.

631
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 3: It's interesting, though, with those two riders, because they strike

632
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 3: me as two riders who maybe aren't great with change,

633
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: in that they like a stable situation, and they both

634
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: have their pretty obvious weaknesses. Mavericks, a good qualifier who

635
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: can't do the first lap of a Grand Prix always

636
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: goes backwards. Bashidi, he's the guy who can't qualify, and

637
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: then we'll come from nowhere in the last ten laps

638
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: and make podiums or wing Grand Prix like he used

639
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: to do on the Ducati. They don't strike me as

640
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: being maybe the most adaptable riders, and so when you're

641
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 3: putting them on a new machine that they've never been

642
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 3: on before, they have to race it a different way.

643
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 3: They've been slow out of the gate. Maybe that's accentuated

644
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: by the fact katm bike's not great, but the fact

645
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: that neither of them seem to have adjusted that well yet,

646
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: like Maverick's been a total afterthought so far these first

647
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: couple of rounds. Of course, we go to Cota this weekend,

648
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: and the stat is that, you know, the last time

649
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: Ducati lost to Grand Prix was at Cota last year

650
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: because Maverick Vinalez won it for a Prillier. So I'll

651
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 3: be shocked if we see Maverick anywhad hear a podium

652
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: this weekend. But the fact that you've got two guys

653
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: who are maybe taking a bit too long, possibly for

654
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: their experience, to settle in with a bike that's not

655
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: quite there either. It's no wonder that you look and

656
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: they're both out in Q one like you're not really

657
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: seeing them feature anywhere near the front. We know how

658
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 3: good they are. Maverick's got this crazy spiky career where

659
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: he can be absolutely brilliant one weekend and then you

660
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: forget that he's at the race track the next weekend,

661
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: and Bashidini has this one like it's a party trick

662
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 3: that everyone knows. It's like, yes, he's amazing at tire

663
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: management and he comes through late in races, but when

664
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 3: he's on it and he's good at doing it, he's

665
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: basically unstoppable. We saw it last year when he's fighting

666
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: with Peco and Martine on the odd weekend to win

667
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: Grand Prix. Never going to be consistent, but he's got

668
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: a definable skill and so now it's up to KTM

669
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: to provide all four of them with the equipment because

670
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 3: right now, I know it's early, but we've talked in

671
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 3: glowing terms about what Yamaha is doing because we can

672
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: see a future Honda's coming off a really strong round

673
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: in Argentina. They shouldn't be ahead of KTM, not really,

674
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: and yes there's been some offseas of stuff going on,

675
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 3: but it's pretty alarming if that continues.

676
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: The manufacturer, who who I thought this year would have

677
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: been battling KTM and for obvious reasons, isn't a Priller.

678
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: We have to talk about that. Joge Martin. I don't

679
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: even know where to start. I think it's good and

680
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: you wrote an article the fact that he is sitting

681
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: at and he is waiting, and we know Mark Marquez

682
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: has been very vocal about the fact that he's openly

683
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: said to him, better to come back when you're fully fit, don't.

684
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: Just don't come back just because you want to.

685
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: But then we've got the highs and lows, because we've

686
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: had Ayagura, this rookie who's come out the gate like

687
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: a bull, but Ralph Fernandez, who we know track House

688
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: and Brivio just love, even Masilo Rivla, but he's not

689
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: doing anything. So it's just this weird situation going on

690
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: at a Prillier. I didn't think twenty twenty five was

691
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: going to be this way. Let's talk about Joje Martin

692
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: to start. Yeah.

693
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: I mean, look that you have to put an asterisk

694
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: on anything that Aprillia has done so far because the

695
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: guy they shelled out a massive amount of money for

696
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: and to bring the number one plate with him hasn't

697
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 3: been on the bike and it's incredibly unlucky. I mean,

698
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: to suffer two injuries to suffer an injury training to

699
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: get over the first injury. I mean, that's the absolute

700
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: definition of bad luck. You mentioned the Marquez conversation. I

701
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: thought that Thailand press conference, which I'm sure you were in,

702
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: was super interesting where he said I didn't miss is

703
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: Mark speaking. He said, I didn't respect my body in

704
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: the past, and I paid a price for it. And

705
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 3: that's the wisdom of Mark Beek thirty two now, and

706
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: you know he's back winning again, so he can look

707
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: at the bad old days and say, well, at least

708
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: they ended at some point. But his message to Martin like,

709
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 3: they're not the best of mates. They're ever going to

710
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: be those two because the way they roll. But the

711
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: fact he said, look, if you miss two, three, four

712
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 3: or five races, that's nothing in the context of a career.

713
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 3: Mark knows this because for four years and four arm

714
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 3: surgeries and just stopped his run of winning completely cold.

715
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: He knows the perils of coming back too soon. So

716
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: I thought that was interesting. Martin seems to think that

717
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: he'll be back for Qatar, which still seems a little optimistic,

718
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: but I think you'll want to get one or two

719
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: under his bell. Well, even if he's three quarters fit

720
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: to be able to do that test at her Reth.

721
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: I think, you know, trying to jump back on the

722
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: bike for that it's going to be far too difficult.

723
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: But the revelation of the season to me is just

724
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: how good Agura has been. Yeah, he had a preseason

725
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: test at Thailand before he did the race there. He's

726
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: been good there in the past. He sealed his Moto

727
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: two championship there last year. I love the way he

728
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: goes about it and that first lab in Thailand where

729
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: he got to the first quarter and afterwards he said, oh,

730
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe how hard Miller and Morbidelli breaked in

731
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: front of me. So I just went round the outside,

732
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: like you know, he's done a hundred races and you

733
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: look up and you go, oh, he's all over the

734
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: back of Pekoebanyay for a podium and his first Motor

735
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: GP stars. Absolutely unbelievable. It's exciting to see a really

736
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: fast younger rider from Japan come in and be on

737
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 3: the pace straight away. He's the thing that Aprili has

738
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: got to be happiest about, because, let's be honest, it

739
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: wasn't the most obvious selection to pick him for Aprilia.

740
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: He'd been in the Honda family the whole time there

741
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: was all this, So they should take Joe Roberts. There

742
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 3: an American team, they should take this guy. That should

743
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: take that guy, Dabideo. Brivio's got this amazing ability to

744
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: spot talent. I mean he bought Alex Ridden through. He

745
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: was part of the early days Jojoirs mirr at t Suzuki,

746
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: which was a weird one at the time. It's like,

747
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: why are you putting this guy? And he's had one

748
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: motor two season end up winning the World championship. So

749
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: Brivio's got four ward spotting talent. But you would have

750
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: seen this entirely. There's something cool about the way Agura

751
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: goes about it because he's kind of understated, like he's

752
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: not carrying on making a big scene. He's actually super funny,

753
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: like really dry in that sort of slightly disarming Japanese

754
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: way about the way he goes racing. I love the

755
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: way he's approached it so far, and the fact he's

756
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: been up there at the front. It's a bit of a

757
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: breath of fresh air, isn't it.

758
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: It's been interesting watching him on and off track, Like,

759
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: like you said, off track, he's a character quirky. Quirky,

760
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: that's the word, like you don't expect it or you

761
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: don't expect him to say what he says.

762
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: And because I.

763
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: Know he doesn't drink a lot of alcohol and then

764
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: he'll got like one little glass in him and all

765
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: of a sudden he's you care about it in in

766
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: press conferences and things that Watching him on track, what

767
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: I thought was really interesting in Thailand was the fact

768
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: that he was standing the bike up a lot quicker

769
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: than everybody else.

770
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: Right where we were situated in the media center was

771
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: right before the final turn, and I said to our Bostrano.

772
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: Watching him come out of that final corner, he is

773
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: standing that bike up and you can see that drive

774
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: that he's getting. No wonder he is as fast as

775
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: he is is he's understanding there's a brillia from the

776
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 1: get go. He knows it's in and out and now

777
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: he can use it to his advantage and clearly that's

778
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 1: what he's doing.

779
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been super impressive and it just adds to

780
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 3: We could probably go to the Ral Fernande's shoulder shrunk

781
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: corner of the podcast, which would probably be somewhere we

782
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: visit most most episodes this year, because I honestly, I

783
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 3: don't get this. I think we might have said this

784
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: last year. To me, he's always he's been one year

785
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 3: away from being good for five years. And if we

786
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 3: feel like we have the same conversation with Fananda year

787
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: after year after year, it's like, Oh, here it comes,

788
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 3: it's going to be this year, It's going to be

789
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: this year he's at the front of a race. Oh no,

790
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: he's crashed, and then there'll be another weekend where you

791
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: don't see him and you know he battled Remy Gardener

792
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: for that Moto Iwo title. It's a long time ago,

793
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: and I just don't necessarily understand why they are so

794
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 3: patient waiting for this thing that by now probably should

795
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: have come if it was coming. But then to see

796
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: a Gura come in in two rounds and go, oh, okay,

797
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: that's what this fight can do in the same team,

798
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 3: given the a Gura's lack of experience, I think it

799
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: says a lot about a Gura. I think it says

800
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: a lot about Fernandez, and I think it gives them

801
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: some optimism. It's like, Okay, you've got a guy that's

802
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: done too Grand Prix. That's putting the air preller up

803
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 3: in positions where it shouldn't be. Once all, hey, Martin

804
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 3: gets up to speed. We know how good the writer is.

805
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: That's going to be an emerging story. How long does

806
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: it take Martine to get back up to speed? Is

807
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 3: world Championship defense has shot? Let's be honest, he's too

808
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: far behind and he's been out for too long? Can

809
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: I see Martin winning races this year? Like if you

810
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: had to pick a non dicatdie rider to win a

811
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: Grand Prix. He's absolutely a top of your wist, isn't he?

812
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

813
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: But do you not think it's This is the part

814
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: where we're actually going to see where the ceiling is

815
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: or where the aprilliate, what the apillia is capable of,

816
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: because we're not seeing that the moment with a little

817
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: bit with a gura.

818
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: But I think Huai Martin is that writer who's going.

819
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: To show that completely. That's where like if you were

820
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: marking report cards after two rounds. We know where Tocaddie is,

821
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 3: we know where the two Japanese manufacturers are, we know

822
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 3: where Katiem is and Aprilli is just this we don't

823
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: know it's the palms up. I'm not sure, because we

824
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: don't have the guy who's going to be the reference

825
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 3: there once he gets his feet on top of the

826
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 3: bike and he can stop injuring himself. But Agura has

827
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 3: been a massive right spot for them. He has been

828
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: better more quickly than I expected. I thought he would

829
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: be a bit of a slow burn and start to

830
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 3: come on towards the end of the season, But the

831
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 3: first two rounds have blown that theory out of the water.

832
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: I think we've done pretty well.

833
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: They're thirty seven minutes and we've kind of capped the

834
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: first two rounds and all the boss and everything that's

835
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: happened there. So let's look at Coder. You mentioned last year,

836
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: Maverick Vignalez, batmanv. We have to say Batman made his

837
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: appearance for the first time.

838
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 2: We had who.

839
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: Else was on the podium? We had Pedro Acosta and

840
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: who was second.

841
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 3: Or I believe Peco. I believe Peko was third. Off

842
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 3: the top of my head, Heeko was third, sorry, and

843
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: Astuneni was third. I'll take that back.

844
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: Yes, that's it. So it was an interesting race.

845
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the fact that Jack Miller and Mark

846
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: Marquez collided last year. Do you remember that with the

847
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: lying off everywhere. But we know this track it's very

848
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: physical for these riders. We also know that's quite bumpy,

849
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: like I said in my intro, so a lot of

850
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: the times you'll hear them complaining about that. Okay, Apart

851
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: from Mark Marquez dominating this weekend, what's your thoughts Are

852
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: we going to see a very similar outcome with Alex

853
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: Marquez or do you think this is a chance where

854
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: we might see Peco actually battling with Mark.

855
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got my question marks about Alex Marquez, not

856
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 3: because of anything he's done this year, because he just

857
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: historically has not been good here and so it's a

858
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 3: real examination for me, is like is this progress that

859
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: he's made in twenty five actually real and sustainable because

860
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: he's going to an unfavorable track for him. You're right,

861
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 3: it's a pretty unique challenge to this track. It's such

862
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 3: a long lap with so many types of corners. There's

863
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: parts of this circuit that are going to punish Honda

864
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: and Yamaha. That back straight is far too long for Yamaha.

865
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: It's going to start running out of gas about eight

866
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 3: hundred meters down that straight. It's such a long straight

867
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 3: there but look, it is unless Mark falls off, which

868
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: he has done from the lead there before. He was

869
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 3: in the lead last year and fell off twenty nineteen,

870
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: memorably the only race he didn't finish on the podiums

871
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: because he crashed from the lead there. So it does

872
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 3: strike me as being a race for second place. But

873
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 3: it's such a physical race. So someone like de jan Antonio,

874
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: who we know is still not one hundred percent fit,

875
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 3: how is he going to go over twenty laps of

876
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: a track like that on Sunday, So that'll be super

877
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 3: curious to me. But I think this has to be

878
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: a weekend as much psychologically as anything else. That anything

879
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 3: other than second place for Vanyaira, I think is a

880
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 3: bit of it, not as but it's super alarm bells

881
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 3: ringing at this point because he needs to be there.

882
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: He needs to show some steps forward. Getting beaten by

883
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 3: Mark Marquez Atkota is hardly a disgrace, but you need

884
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 3: to be the next best guy, so you minimize the

885
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: points damage, you get a little bit of momentum and

886
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: you can start taking that once we go back through

887
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 3: the Middle Eastern Europe. So Banyai is definitely someone to

888
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: watch of the other manufacturers look at such a bummer

889
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 3: that Martin's not going to be there this weekend, because

890
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: we know how good he is in circuits like this.

891
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: I think it's the right decision, by the way, to

892
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 3: not go this weekend if you're not quite right. So

893
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: to my mind, it wouldn't surprise me if there's a

894
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 3: bit of a random person on the podium this weekend,

895
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 3: maybe in the sprint and the Grand Prix, because we

896
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: know probably what's going to happen for first, but other

897
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 3: than that, there's a lot of question marks. Isn't there

898
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 3: around a lot of people, so big weekend for Banyai

899
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: and yeah, picking who could be in the podium mix,

900
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 3: I would say someone like a cost on a normal weekend,

901
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 3: but katm just seems a bit lost at the moment,

902
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: so that's a caveat for that one. I'm really curious

903
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: to see how this shakes out behind what we think

904
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,479
Speaker 3: is going to be the person at the front, because

905
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: it kind of feels up for grabs for me.

906
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: Speaking about that backstraight you said, we know it's one

907
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: of the longest ones on the calendar, so it's hard

908
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: for this track to not say it's going to be

909
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: another Duke Caddie dominant with all them. I know you

910
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: mentioned Digio being unfit, but more Bedellian those guys being

911
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: closer to the front. But that turn one for me

912
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: as they come up that, oh, that must be just unbelievable.

913
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: To experience well, because it's so wide, because effectively it's

914
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 3: car track, it's bill it was made for Formula one

915
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: when they went there. There's about ten different lines you

916
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: can take into turn one. You can go super wide

917
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 3: on the entry and then cut back across all those

918
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 3: ninety degrees. You can hug the inside curb. You could

919
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: be mid track and hope to God that no one

920
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: loses it on the inside curb and skills you. Because

921
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: we've seen that there before where guys get pushed out

922
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: onto the runoff. So the first corner there, and because

923
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 3: we get two starts with a sprint and a Grand Prix,

924
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 3: I'll be super curious because you obviously retain the same

925
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: grid for the sprint in the Grand Prix, what riders

926
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 3: do tack And one thing I'm definitely going to do

927
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: after the sprint on Sunday morning OS Time is I

928
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 3: want to watch that first quarter and watch where people

929
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 3: position themselves because you've got that big, long, cascading series

930
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 3: of quarters from term one onwards. Where do you position

931
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 3: yourself on the grid for the sprint because you get

932
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 3: another go at it the next day. So there'll be

933
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 3: guys that like, oh, I hug the insight that didn't

934
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 3: work because I was too slow on the apex, and

935
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: you'll be people on the outside and it can turn

936
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 3: into a bit of ten big bowling out there if

937
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: you're not careful. So yeah, I reckon the fact that

938
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 3: you get almost like a dry run at doing the

939
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: first corner on the sprint Saturday will be super interesting

940
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 3: for the Grand Prix because now, look, a sprint minimal points,

941
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: you can only make up so much, but a Grand Prix,

942
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: it's such a long race and it's such an arduous

943
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: race there that you want to be in the right

944
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 3: spot because your race can be pretty much done at

945
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: Kosa if you are buried in the packet term one.

946
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: So that's going to be interesting.

947
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: I reckon I agree with you by I'm just going

948
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: to challenge you. Mark Marquez, I think it was twenty twenty,

949
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: always definitely on a repsole and he started the back

950
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: peak twenty four and made his way back to six

951
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: Do you.

952
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 3: Remember twenty two, Yes, twenty twenty two, So he won

953
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 3: there in twenty twenty one when he had one and

954
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: a half working shoulders, and then twenty two was when

955
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,479
Speaker 3: he pulled up on the grid and selected the start

956
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: device and there were a whole bunch of alarms going on,

957
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 3: and the thing basically it was like it was stuck

958
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: in the pit limiter. He was last at term one

959
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: by about one hundred meters. He wasn't even in the

960
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 3: photo most of the time because everyone else a crested

961
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: term one. Only he could do this, overtook eighteen riders,

962
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 3: it wasn't fully fit, and finished sixth. One of the

963
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: greatest rides of his career that never ended up in

964
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: a podium. It was absolutely crazy. He was riding past

965
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: guys like they're on motor three bikes. But yeah, if

966
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: you can do that on a bike, that's basically trying

967
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 3: to shut down into the first quarters, having a you know,

968
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: once a software to be updated like your laptop at

969
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: an inconvenient time. One of his great rides, and certainly

970
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 3: one that isn't probably heralded because it's like, well, this

971
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: is one of the three times you haven't finished on

972
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: the podium at Kota, one of his absolutely best rides.

973
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: But I would suggest I don't think we're going to

974
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: be seeing that this weekend.

975
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: I agree, I don't think we're going to see that vs.

976
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 1: One of the highlights of Coder and guys, don't forget

977
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: you can catch all the action this weekend Koda early

978
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: in the morning for us for Saturday morning, Sunday morning

979
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: and Monday morning, and that is a live on Fox

980
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: Sports and KO Plus. If you want to keep up

981
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: the cape, well I'm gonna try the again. Keep up

982
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: to date with the latest news. Head to foxsport dot com,

983
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: do au forward, Slash Motorsport for all the latest Moto

984
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: GP and motorsport news, or you can check us out

985
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: on socials at Fox Motorsport, on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube.

986
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: But from Matt Clayton and myself, that was a quick

987
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: recap of Argentina, the tigrand Prix and looking ahead at Coder.

988
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Speaker 2: We're going to be back real soon with more Pittok