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Speaker 1: Five double A Knights with Matthew Pantalas spoke to my

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Speaker 1: next guests last night. Involved in moving a five ton

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Speaker 1: elephant across the null board, the biggest movement of a

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Speaker 1: bull elephant likely anywhere in the world in terms of

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Speaker 1: the distance involved. Daniel Henry, Community Engagement Director, Perth Zoo. Danielle,

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Speaker 1: how are you hey, Matthew, how are you good? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: I think put tramass. You've got to change his name

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Speaker 1: to Dumbo because he is flying.

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Speaker 2: Well. His actual name means Golden Prince and he's definitely

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Speaker 2: going to be the Golden Prince for South Australia, so

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Speaker 2: we're quite excited to be getting here him there a

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Speaker 2: lot quicker than what we envisaged.

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Speaker 1: How is that he's not downhill? It's going on No.

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Speaker 2: He's just been the perfect pachyderm passenger and he's taking

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Speaker 2: an all in his stride. He's been munching away the

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Speaker 2: whole way along the highway, so he's had peanut butter sandwiches.

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Speaker 2: His favorite is actually raisin bread and when he did

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Speaker 2: that up at the roadhouse on the way across, and

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Speaker 2: he's been munching his little heart out and drinking away

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Speaker 2: as well. So he's just been absolutely brilliant.

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Speaker 1: How much raisin bread does an elephant eat? It can't

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Speaker 1: just be a slice or two, can I?

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Speaker 2: Well, we weren't long We were into Junea not that

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Speaker 2: long ago, and we definitely re stopped our supplies once

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Speaker 2: we passed quarantine. So he's all set. So his last

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Speaker 2: leg in South Australia, but he's got quite a lot

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Speaker 1: I bet so. Okay, so Juna, So you're about twelve

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Speaker 1: fifteen hours, so you reckon five thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 1: That's probably about right at traveling one hundred k's an

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Speaker 1: hour with an elephant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I guessed an eating about five point thirty.

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Speaker 2: But really, as we keep saying, we are absolutely on

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Speaker 2: Puts Marasid time. We're an elephant time. So you know,

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Speaker 2: our priority is to get him there safe and sound,

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Speaker 2: and if we get there in the wee hours of

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Speaker 2: the morning, so be it. If we get there a

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Speaker 2: little bit later on the end of the day, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't really matter. We're just making sure that his welfare

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Speaker 2: is our number one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Now he doesn't come out of the

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Speaker 1: crate at all, does he? You don't let him out

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Speaker 1: the stretch it's legs. I imagine, it's.

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Speaker 2: Not exactly like we could pop her leash on him

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Speaker 2: and wandering the long nullbor. So he says in his

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Speaker 2: create the whole way along. I'm sure when he gets

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Speaker 2: to the other end, much like when somebody has done

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Speaker 2: a long haul international flight, he'll be a little bit tired,

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Speaker 2: he'll want to stretch his legs, but our team will

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Speaker 2: be there with him just to settle him in and

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Speaker 2: make sure that he's absolutely a okay at the other end.

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Speaker 1: All right, now, all that raisin bread has to go somewhere.

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Speaker 1: How do you clean out the crate over you know,

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Speaker 1: what is it thirty six odd hours or so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So the crate's actually been specially designed for this

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Speaker 2: long haul trip, persue being the most isolators do in

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Speaker 2: the world. We're experts at long hall travel. So we've

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Speaker 2: done this a few times before, not with Elephant obviously,

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Speaker 2: just with his companion per Maie in January, but we've

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Speaker 2: done a lot of giraffe coming and going across a

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Speaker 2: nullabor as well. What we do is we actually create

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Speaker 2: essentially a massive big kitter li the trade that sits

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Speaker 2: underneath the crate and collects all of that, all of

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Speaker 2: the of the refuse comes out at.

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Speaker 1: The other end, all the rays of bread exactly. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: that's interesting. So it's a little hotel unit in one.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely is. It's farmastatically controlled, it's climate controlled, and

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Speaker 2: the absolute brilliance of his creative is that it's reverse

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Speaker 2: cycles so across the anotherbor. It actually gets quite chilly

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Speaker 2: at night, quite cool, so keeps him nice and cool

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Speaker 2: with the air on in the day, but warms him

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's nice. Does he sleep? Does Is there room

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Speaker 1: for him to get down and get back up?

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Speaker 2: No, he can't lie down. The elephants typically only sleep

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Speaker 2: for a couple of hours a time at night. Obviously

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Speaker 2: But typically they only get a couple of hours of

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Speaker 2: it's not unusual for him to get a little cat

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Speaker 1: That's interesting, son, Can he see out? Does he have windows?

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Speaker 2: No, he doesn't have windows. But when we stop, we

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Speaker 2: obviously open up the shoots and our keepers can can

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Speaker 2: touch him. They can reassure him, they can be very

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Speaker 2: tactile with him, but for most of the time he's

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Speaker 2: just in his creating. He's enjoying the ride across the nullable.

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Speaker 1: How pleasid is that really for a bull elephant at

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Speaker 1: probably what just peak age halfway through midlife, I suppose,

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Speaker 1: or maybe even not that, So he's you know, in

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Speaker 1: peak condition and just placidly standing there for that long.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been an absolutely brilliant passenger. And our keepers

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Speaker 2: use describe him as a bit of a puppy dog,

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Speaker 2: so you know, he has the most amazing temperament. He's

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Speaker 2: incredibly intelligent, and I'm sure that he has a bit

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well he would have. He must have wondered what

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Speaker 1: happened to Permit as well. I mean she disappeared.

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Speaker 2: Ah well, they actually didn't live together, so do all

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Speaker 2: elephants live a solitary existence. Females are the ones that

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Speaker 2: although they did live in neighboring habitats, so it absolutely

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Speaker 2: would have noticed that she was no longer there. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I guess we will never really know what he was

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Speaker 2: thinking in time.

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Speaker 1: He might be thinking, well, maybe I'm going to where

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Speaker 1: she ever disappeared to.

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Speaker 2: He might be possibly it will be interesting to see

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Speaker 2: their reactions when he rolls in herself Australia tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right, So the deal is you roll

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Speaker 1: into Manada, he's unloaded, and then what is he kind

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Speaker 1: of shown around his enclosure. He's just let loose, what's

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Speaker 1: the story?

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Speaker 2: So we will give him access to his night quarter

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Speaker 2: he wants to go on what he wants to do,

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Speaker 2: so we'll really just take it on his time. Much

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Speaker 2: like Permi, she went into the safety of the elephant barn,

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Speaker 2: had a little bit of time to poke around, and

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Speaker 2: only really when she was ready did she step outside.

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Speaker 2: So again we'll just be lived by.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay with the females. When perm I was there

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Speaker 1: Sydney next from memory. Anyway, it doesn't matter. They were

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Speaker 1: trunks touching and all the rest. Eventually, and will he

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Speaker 1: now living separately? I get that, but will he be

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Speaker 1: able to see them or not really, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Particularly familiar with the barn set up. I know that

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Speaker 2: they have been building an absolutely amazing bachelor's pad for

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Speaker 2: him and with an elephant habitat that's almost fourteen hectares inside,

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Speaker 2: there's lots of room to rome. We'll see how those

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Speaker 2: socializations play out over the next few months.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, it was going to be so interesting to see.

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Speaker 1: So Okay, driving through the night the second night obviously

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Speaker 1: and find himself in South Australia in not even twelve

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Speaker 2: We probably hopefully about nine hours so is our best guests.

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Speaker 2: So here's refueled, he's got some peanut butter sandwiches under

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Speaker 2: his belt, our team of reports fueled at the roadhouse

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Speaker 2: at Seguina, and we're ready for the last week.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fantastic, So nine hours or so before he arrives,

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Speaker 1: and at the speed you've been coming, you might even

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Speaker 1: be here earlier.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to wait and see.

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Speaker 1: Good on your Dannielle, thank you so much. Been great

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Speaker 1: having a chat with you and keeping up to date

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Speaker 1: with his progress. And there was a lot of interest.

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Speaker 1: I recall when the first elephant, Permei, arrived and that

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Speaker 1: kind of faded out a little bit with the other

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Speaker 1: three after that. But I think with this final one

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Speaker 1: and bigger male as well, and coming all the way

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Speaker 1: from Perth, I think everyone's really interested in finding out

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Speaker 1: about the journey. So thank you for the updates.

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Speaker 2: The final elephant to your new herd. Yeah, very excited

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Speaker 2: to get him there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait to see the ball. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be great. Thanks Matth, thank you so much. Daniel Henry,

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Speaker 1: community Engagement Director at Perth Zoo