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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Am I A Bad Mom?
Speaker 1: Podcast? Am I A Bad Mom?
Speaker 2: Is the question we are constantly asking ourselves.
Speaker 3: We just like to sit here in a reflective sense,
Speaker 3: and I guess support each other through that, don't We like,
Speaker 3: because some weeks are great and then some weeks you're like,
Speaker 3: could have done that better?
Speaker 2: Because you lose your shit. It's almost like it's instant
Speaker 2: the guilt. It's like, yes, I have every right to
Speaker 2: lose my shit because they've done this whatever. Not listening.
Speaker 2: I asked them to put the washing away the other day.
Speaker 2: I recognized said it like five times, and in my head,
Speaker 2: I'm going, I could have just put that away. We
Speaker 2: have taken me five minutes.
Speaker 3: But we're not teaching them anything. So this is where
Speaker 3: we come up with that whole damned if you do,
Speaker 3: damned if you don't, because if we did that for
Speaker 3: then they're going to become obnoxious, selfish little shits.
Speaker 2: More. Mikeirl say to me, why do you have to
Speaker 2: drink wine? Like, why do you have to drink so
Speaker 2: much wine? I'm like, because I'm a parent, it's your
Speaker 2: ful And then you go, oh, they're gonna be in
Speaker 2: therapy one day, going mum said it was our fault.
Speaker 2: Heat was driven to drink therapy.
Speaker 3: Am I a bad mum for keeping secrets from them?
Speaker 2: Okay, so I need to address the elephant in the room.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: With that, I'm going to play.
Speaker 3: Some music right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So last night we found out that your husband
Speaker 2: Sam It's gone into the African jungle and I'm a celebrity.
Speaker 3: Get me out of here.
Speaker 2: I got a text from Rach yesterday morning saying, good morning.
Speaker 2: Just wanted to let you know as it's gone into
Speaker 2: the press. Sam It's currently in Africa and he's in
Speaker 2: I'm a celebrity, get me.
Speaker 3: Out of here.
Speaker 2: I had to read it a couple of times. I
Speaker 2: was like, what, Sorry, I haven't been able to say anything.
Speaker 2: We signed an NDA, so haven't been able. The girls
Speaker 2: will find out tonight when they watched the show for
Speaker 2: the first time.
Speaker 3: Yes, So I followed it up with a phone call,
Speaker 3: didn't I because I had to explain myself a little
Speaker 3: bit more along the lines of going, look, I feel
Speaker 3: shit for having to hold out on you because we've
Speaker 3: spoken about like how many times you'd ask me in
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks, where Sam. How is he?
Speaker 3: What is he doing? And I'm like, ah, he's great.
Speaker 3: Where is he Sydney? What is he doing?
Speaker 2: Work?
Speaker 3: That's all I've given you for weeks. That's not normally me,
Speaker 3: which is probably where you would have seen through that
Speaker 3: a little bit. So, yes, he is in Africa, he
Speaker 3: is on celeb Slave Get me out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is so funny to me because you've never
Speaker 2: watched I've never watched the show.
Speaker 3: I feel terrible saying that, but I'll own it and
Speaker 3: say the only reality show that which is shit to
Speaker 3: say now that I say it that caught me it
Speaker 3: was Maths because it's like a train wreck. It's like
Speaker 3: that whole like don't want to look but I'm gonna
Speaker 3: can't look away kind of situation because it's such a
Speaker 3: train wreck.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's embarrassing, but you said it out loud.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so embarrassing. That's the only thing that I've
Speaker 3: sort of watched. And I know that you love the show,
Speaker 3: You've watched it many.
Speaker 2: I was excited to watch the show anyway before I
Speaker 2: knew that Sam was going to be on there, and
Speaker 2: so I was just like so excited yesterday. Honestly, you
Speaker 2: should have seen this last night because I had to
Speaker 2: do FaceTime with my dad at the time that the
Speaker 2: show was going to start, and so I was like, Okay, Dad,
Speaker 2: need to just make this really quick because I want
Speaker 2: to watch I'm here, and so then I've set it
Speaker 2: up to record and then it's not working. I'm on
Speaker 2: the phone to Foxtael had to record it in another room.
Speaker 1: Then we had to.
Speaker 2: Watch it for an hour in the other room before
Speaker 2: we could go back in. It was a bloody plava.
Speaker 3: I've got two kids now sitting down and they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: why is this on? And I'm like, oh, let's watch
Speaker 3: a movie. But I'm just tiling up some dishes and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. And they're like, well, let's watch the
Speaker 3: start of it, and I went, oh, yeah, if you want,
Speaker 3: but I don't really want to watch I think it
Speaker 3: was like Miss Congeniality, I really want to watch that.
Speaker 3: So we need to start watching it decoy and I
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, that's what we'll do. And then they
Speaker 3: started to watch it, and then the intro took so long.
Speaker 3: Katie I was like, when is he coming on? Because
Speaker 3: obviously we carried this out all the way through the day.
Speaker 3: Now we got leaked yesterday that he was going to
Speaker 3: be in there, and so then I was like right,
Speaker 3: and then thinking, okay, now I need to think of
Speaker 3: all the ways that I need to bubble wrap my
Speaker 3: two girls for the day so that I can continue
Speaker 3: the surprise, like Sam and I had agreed on. I
Speaker 3: felt bad because everyone else knew, and then I think
Speaker 3: I said that to you. I feel bad because my
Speaker 3: girls don't know, but now everyone else knows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Gracie has a watch, doesn't he When she doesn't,
Speaker 2: her friends can message her. So you needed to avoid
Speaker 2: the watch being used so none of her friends could go, oh.
Speaker 3: Your dad's going to be on TV tonight. Yeah, So
Speaker 3: that was like that, And then they pick up my
Speaker 3: mom's phone all the time.
Speaker 2: Nanadini's per part of the phone. We had the problem
Speaker 2: with the tooth fairy. Yeah, and the text that you'd
Speaker 2: sent about the tooth Fairy coming, which then one.
Speaker 3: Of your girls, Elsie, just recently in December.
Speaker 2: Dangerous, nanade, come on, change your password. So you got
Speaker 2: to the stage where they hadn't got wind of anything,
Speaker 2: they hadn't been in touch with their friends, no one
Speaker 2: had been able to ruin the surprise. And then they
Speaker 2: say on the lounge and you had the TV on
Speaker 2: and then this was what happened.
Speaker 1: Dad, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: So I feel like it went from oh my god,
Speaker 2: it's Dad, I knew it to all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: Gracie going everyone's going to see him on TV.
Speaker 3: I think Gracie's side of it is like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: what is he going to do that is going to
Speaker 3: embarrass this ship out of me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she's got to that age. And obviously for
Speaker 2: those who know Sam was a football player for the
Speaker 2: Brisbane Broncos for years and years, but your girls were
Speaker 2: so little then. I know they did see him on
Speaker 2: TV and stuff, but I think it's very different now
Speaker 2: they're older. They were either going to be super excited
Speaker 2: and impressed by it or they were going to go
Speaker 2: the other way and be embarrassed.
Speaker 3: And oh my god. I think we went through everything
Speaker 3: last night, everything you can think of. Like obviously that
Speaker 3: was the first moment that was their initial reaction and
Speaker 3: they were like, oh my gosh. And then I think
Speaker 3: they went straight into like what you call a challenge,
Speaker 3: and then Sam was doing the challenge and it was
Speaker 3: like brought out another whole side of the girls. They
Speaker 3: were like, oh my god, Elsie becomes competitive with him,
Speaker 3: even though he's on a TV and she's at home
Speaker 3: telling him he can do it.
Speaker 1: Oh my daughters. As I always tell him, Gracie, Elsie
Speaker 1: takes one second to be brave. It takes one second
Speaker 1: to be brave.
Speaker 2: And so he's walking out on a led really really higher.
Speaker 3: Now that star provided their first dinner of the night,
Speaker 3: wasn't it. So there was no way he was jumping
Speaker 3: and missing that start. Sam.
Speaker 2: That's the thing that we keep laughing at because I
Speaker 2: think he's going to be really great at all the challenges.
Speaker 2: I don't think he will have problems with any of them,
Speaker 2: the eating challenges, the spiders, and then I think he'll
Speaker 2: do good. However, I think he will be very hungry.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I was like, this would be great for you.
Speaker 3: He loves a snack. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I remember one of his teammates back in the day,
Speaker 2: Tavita Panguy Junior. I remember him saying that the only
Speaker 2: problem he had with Sam as a roommate was that
Speaker 2: he liked to just sit there and eat peanut brittle.
Speaker 3: Loves to snack. Food might be the thing that provides
Speaker 3: him a.
Speaker 2: Challenge and the lack of So do you think he
Speaker 2: made the right decision not telling the girls and letting
Speaker 2: it be a surprise.
Speaker 3: Well, I think from our conversation yesterday and another good
Speaker 3: friend of mine had said, look at it this way, Rach,
Speaker 3: even though they're missing him and they'll miss him like crazy,
Speaker 3: like if he's gone for the I think it's the
Speaker 3: entirety is like five to six weeks or something like that.
Speaker 3: At the same time, they're still getting to watch him
Speaker 3: live every single day. And then you had sort of
Speaker 3: said to me to sell it as a surprise. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Sam and I had spoken about it as being a surprise,
Speaker 3: But I think the enormity of what yesterday was, which
Speaker 3: was leaked in the press, so it was on papers,
Speaker 3: it was like interviewed, it was, you know, so much
Speaker 3: of it that I was like, Okay, now I feel
Speaker 3: like the world knows and my girls don't.
Speaker 1: Hmmm.
Speaker 3: So you feel as I felt a bit shitty about
Speaker 3: holding out on them for that part of it.
Speaker 2: You could not have told them beforehand, No, because you
Speaker 2: know what kids are like.
Speaker 3: You could not have like.
Speaker 2: There is no way kids can't make secrets.
Speaker 3: I couldn't have told Nanady. Half of Brisbane would have known.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you couldn't have told the girls previously because
Speaker 2: you were worried that they I'd be like.
Speaker 3: Why didn't you tell us? Yes, and so I was.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, make it about them. This was about we
Speaker 2: wanted to surprise you. It's exciting that kind.
Speaker 3: Of They loved it. In the end, we went through
Speaker 3: all emotions. Actually, I have to say there was highs
Speaker 3: and lows. And I think by this second advert, after
Speaker 3: he had come on, finally I sort of turned to
Speaker 3: Gracie and she's in tears, and I was like, what's up, mate,
Speaker 3: Like what are you crying for? You know, remembering that
Speaker 3: I have been with them permanently attached for the whole
Speaker 3: entire week. So my quota of feeling sorry for you
Speaker 3: because you're crying, it's just not there, because it's like
Speaker 3: also eight o'clock at night. So I was like, what's
Speaker 3: up mate? Really, like why are we crying for? He
Speaker 3: won't be able to see me go to high school.
Speaker 3: He won't be able to see me in my uniform,
Speaker 3: and so she wanted to go down that route. I
Speaker 3: understand that, I said, but you're saying it like he's
Speaker 3: chosen like this over you. It's not like that I'm here,
Speaker 3: me still here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dylan, Like I said yesterday as well, is that
Speaker 2: it's a decision for the family. I know it's a
Speaker 2: TV show and it looks fun and all the rest
Speaker 2: of it doesn't look fun.
Speaker 3: But like it comes updoors.
Speaker 2: He's a TV guy, he's a but he needed to.
Speaker 3: Really push himself. There is an element in there of
Speaker 3: going like how far can I push myself out of
Speaker 3: comfort zone? Because there's nothing comfortable about what I saw
Speaker 3: last night?
Speaker 2: And he said to you before he went to Africa,
Speaker 2: what have I done?
Speaker 3: I can't do this?
Speaker 1: He is.
Speaker 2: I've made vision for his own mental health and self esteem,
Speaker 2: all of those things, Like this is going to be
Speaker 2: like a life changing thing.
Speaker 3: I hope, So I do hope so for him individually,
Speaker 3: like yes, for the family, Yes, for his career and
Speaker 3: all of those sorts of things. But personally on a
Speaker 3: personal level, like we've been made since grade eight, this
Speaker 3: is going to be wonderful for him. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And the other thing is that you're potentially going to
Speaker 2: be solo parenting your kids for six weeks. How much
Speaker 2: he enjoy watching those horrible trials to eat.
Speaker 3: I don't have any Yeah, I don't have any sympathy there.
Speaker 3: I think last night was something like his dinner and
Speaker 3: the dinner sort of got dropped in and then they
Speaker 3: like opened it up and it was like chook's feet
Speaker 3: or something, and I was like, sweet, what did you have?
Speaker 1: Steak?
Speaker 3: I had.
Speaker 2: Steak and prawns. When you have moments of the kids
Speaker 2: getting too much for you, just take yourself out of
Speaker 2: for dinner.
Speaker 3: Fuck. I hadn't consider that, but maybe I'll take myself
Speaker 3: out for dinner.
Speaker 2: You're going to think about your dinners so much over
Speaker 2: the next six weeks, and you're going to just enjoy
Speaker 2: them so much. Thinking about what Sam's do?
Speaker 3: You know what? The one thing and I'm just going
Speaker 3: to wrap this up because this is relevant to all
Speaker 3: mums and dads. Majority would be very reliant on one coffee,
Speaker 3: maybe two a day. Sam was at four. His throat
Speaker 3: will be cut over. Yes, number one it would be food,
Speaker 3: but number two would be coffee. Yeah, so every time
Speaker 3: I do have a coffee, which is like I'm in
Speaker 3: that quota of two a day, Yeah, think of him.
Speaker 3: I have one, and I think Jesus is nice. So
Speaker 3: selfish hats off to him. Good luck, Sam, good luck
Speaker 3: to be amazing. I'll just hold the fort for everything else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you ever do that thing? I do know
Speaker 2: couples that do this that go okay, you've gone away
Speaker 2: to kind of know, I'm owed a weekend away sort
Speaker 2: of thing, like you've got six weeks.
Speaker 3: I know this, and we're both turning forty this year,
Speaker 3: and one hundred percent people that know me very well
Speaker 3: yesterday in phone calls because it was a very busy day,
Speaker 3: was oh my gosh, you've got six weeks. A crude,
Speaker 3: if he gets the finals, you've got six weeks. And
Speaker 3: I was like, fuck, yes, that is European summer here.
Speaker 2: I can't What do you want to do for your
Speaker 2: fortieth raight, I'm just gonna go away six weeks on
Speaker 2: my own.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, don't even worry. It's crossed my mind several times.