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Speaker 1: Apod Shape Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Am I A Bad Mom?

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Speaker 1: Podcast?

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Speaker 2: Am I A Bad Mom? Is the question we are

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Speaker 2: constantly asking ourselves.

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Speaker 1: We just like to sit here in a reflective sense,

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Speaker 1: and I guess support each other through that, don't We like,

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Speaker 1: because some weeks are great and then some weeks you're like,

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Speaker 1: could have done that better?

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Speaker 2: Because you lose your shit. It's almost like it's instant

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Speaker 2: the guilt. It's like, yes, I have every right to

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Speaker 2: lose my shit because they've done this whatever. Not listening.

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Speaker 2: I asked them to put the washing away the other day.

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Speaker 2: I recognized said it like five times, and in my head,

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Speaker 2: I'm going, I could have just put that away. We

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Speaker 2: have taken me five minutes.

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Speaker 1: But we're not teaching them anything. So this is where

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Speaker 1: we come up with that whole damned if you do,

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Speaker 1: damned if you don't, because if we did that for

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Speaker 1: then they're going to become obnoxious, selfish little shits.

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Speaker 2: More. Mikeirl say to me, why do you have to

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Speaker 2: drink wine? Like, why do you have to drink so

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Speaker 2: much wine? I'm like, because I'm a parent, it's your

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Speaker 2: ful And then you go, oh, they're gonna be in

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Speaker 2: therapy one day, going mum said it was our fault.

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Speaker 2: Heat was driven to drink therapy.

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Speaker 1: Am I a bad mum for keeping secrets from them?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I need to address the elephant in the room.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: With that, I'm going to play.

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Speaker 1: Some music right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So last night we found out that your husband

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Speaker 2: Sam It's gone into the African jungle and I'm a celebrity.

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Speaker 1: Get me out of here.

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Speaker 2: I got a text from Rach yesterday morning saying, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Just wanted to let you know as it's gone into

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Speaker 2: the press. Sam It's currently in Africa and he's in

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Speaker 2: I'm a celebrity, get me.

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Speaker 1: Out of here.

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Speaker 2: I had to read it a couple of times. I

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Speaker 2: was like, what, Sorry, I haven't been able to say anything.

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Speaker 2: We signed an NDA, so haven't been able. The girls

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Speaker 2: will find out tonight when they watched the show for

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Speaker 2: the first time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So I followed it up with a phone call,

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Speaker 1: didn't I because I had to explain myself a little

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Speaker 1: bit more along the lines of going, look, I feel

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Speaker 1: shit for having to hold out on you because we've

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Speaker 1: spoken about like how many times you'd ask me in

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, where Sam. How is he?

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Speaker 1: What is he doing? And I'm like, ah, he's great.

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Speaker 1: Where is he Sydney? What is he doing?

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Speaker 2: Work?

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Speaker 1: That's all I've given you for weeks. That's not normally me,

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Speaker 1: which is probably where you would have seen through that

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Speaker 1: a little bit. So, yes, he is in Africa, he

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Speaker 1: is on celeb Slave Get me out of here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is so funny to me because you've never

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Speaker 2: watched I've never watched the show.

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Speaker 1: I feel terrible saying that, but I'll own it and

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Speaker 1: say the only reality show that which is shit to

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Speaker 1: say now that I say it that caught me it

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Speaker 1: was Maths because it's like a train wreck. It's like

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Speaker 1: that whole like don't want to look but I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's embarrassing, but you said it out loud.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so embarrassing. That's the only thing that I've

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Speaker 1: You've watched it many.

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Speaker 2: I was excited to watch the show anyway before I

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Speaker 2: so I was just like so excited yesterday. Honestly, you

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Speaker 2: Then we had to watch it for an hour in

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Speaker 1: I've got two kids now sitting down and they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: why is this on? And I'm like, oh, let's watch

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Speaker 1: So we need to start watching it decoy and I

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Speaker 1: Katie I was like, when is he coming on? Because

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Speaker 1: obviously we carried this out all the way through the day.

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Speaker 1: Now we got leaked yesterday that he was going to

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Speaker 1: all the ways that I need to bubble wrap my

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Speaker 1: two girls for the day so that I can continue

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Speaker 1: the surprise, like Sam and I had agreed on. I

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Speaker 1: I said that to you. I feel bad because my

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Speaker 1: girls don't know, but now everyone else knows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Gracie has a watch, doesn't he When she doesn't,

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Speaker 2: her friends can message her. So you needed to avoid

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Speaker 2: the watch being used so none of her friends could go, oh.

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Speaker 1: Your dad's going to be on TV tonight. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: that was like that, And then they pick up my

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Speaker 1: mom's phone all the time.

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Speaker 2: Nanadini's per part of the phone. We had the problem

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Speaker 2: with the tooth fairy. Yeah, and the text that you'd

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Speaker 2: sent about the tooth Fairy coming, which then one.

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Speaker 1: Of your girls, Elsie, just recently in December.

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Speaker 2: Dangerous, nanade, come on, change your password. So you got

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Speaker 2: to the stage where they hadn't got wind of anything,

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Speaker 2: they hadn't been in touch with their friends, no one

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Speaker 2: had been able to ruin the surprise. And then they

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Speaker 2: and then this was what happened Dad, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like it went from oh my god,

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Speaker 2: it's Dad, I knew it to all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: Gracie going everyone's going to see him on TV.

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Speaker 1: I think Gracie's side of it is like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: what is he going to do that is going to

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Speaker 1: embarrass this ship out of me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because she's got to that age. And obviously for

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Speaker 2: Brisbane Broncos for years and years, but your girls were

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Speaker 2: so little then. I know they did see him on

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Speaker 2: they're older. They were either going to be super excited

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Speaker 1: And oh my god. I think we went through everything

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Speaker 1: last night, everything you can think of. Like obviously that

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Speaker 1: was the first moment that was their initial reaction and

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Speaker 1: they were like, oh my gosh. And then I think

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Speaker 1: and then Sam was doing the challenge and it was

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Speaker 1: were like, oh my god, Elsie becomes competitive with him,

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Speaker 1: even though he's on a TV and she's at home

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Speaker 1: telling him he can do it. Oh my daughters. As

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Speaker 1: I always tell him, Gracie, Elsie takes one second to

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Speaker 2: It takes one second to be brave. And so he's

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Speaker 1: Now that star provided their first dinner of the night,

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Speaker 1: wasn't it. So there was no way he was jumping

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Speaker 2: That's the thing that we keep laughing at because I

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Speaker 2: I don't think he will have problems with any of them,

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Speaker 2: the eating challenges, the spiders, and then I think he'll

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I was like, this would be great for you.

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Speaker 1: He loves a snack. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I remember one of his teammates back in the day,

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Speaker 2: Tavita Panguy Junior. I remember him saying that the only

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Speaker 2: problem he had with Sam as a roommate was that

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Speaker 2: he liked to just sit there and eat peanut brittle.

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Speaker 1: Loves to snack. Food might be the thing that provides

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Speaker 2: Challenge and the lack of So do you think he

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Speaker 2: made the right decision not telling the girls and letting

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Speaker 2: it be a surprise.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think from our conversation yesterday and another good

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Speaker 1: friend of mine had said, look at it this way, Rach,

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Speaker 1: even though they're missing him and they'll miss him like crazy,

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Speaker 1: like if he's gone for the I think it's the

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Speaker 1: entirety is like five to six weeks or something like that.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, they're still getting to watch him

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Speaker 1: said to me to sell it as a surprise. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Sam and I had spoken about it as being a surprise,

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Speaker 1: But I think the enormity of what yesterday was, which

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Speaker 1: it was like interviewed, it was, you know, so much

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Speaker 1: like the world knows and my girls don't. Hmmm. So

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Speaker 2: You could not have told them beforehand, No, because you

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Speaker 1: You could not have like.

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Speaker 2: There is no way kids can't make secrets.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't have told Nanady. Half of Brisbane would have known.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, you couldn't have told the girls previously because

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Speaker 1: Why didn't you tell us? Yes, and so I was.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, make it about them. This was about we

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Speaker 2: wanted to surprise you. It's exciting that kind.

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Speaker 1: Of They loved it. In the end, we went through

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Speaker 1: all emotions. Actually, I have to say there was highs

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Speaker 1: and lows. And I think by this second advert, after

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Speaker 1: he had come on, finally I sort of turned to

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Speaker 1: Gracie and she's in tears, and I was like, what's up, mate,

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Speaker 1: Like what are you crying for? You know, remembering that

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Speaker 1: I have been with them permanently attached for the whole

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Speaker 1: because you're crying, it's just not there, because it's like

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Speaker 1: also eight o'clock at night. So I was like, what's

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Speaker 1: up mate? Really, like why are we crying for? He

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Speaker 1: won't be able to see me go to high school.

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Speaker 1: He won't be able to see me in my uniform,

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Speaker 1: and so she wanted to go down that route. I

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Speaker 1: understand that, I said, but you're saying it like he's

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Speaker 1: chosen like this over you. It's not like that I'm here,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dylan, Like I said yesterday as well, is that

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Speaker 2: it's a decision for the family. I know it's a

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Speaker 2: TV show and it looks fun and all the rest

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Speaker 2: of it doesn't look fun.

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Speaker 1: But like it comes updoors.

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Speaker 2: He's a TV guy, he's a but he needed to.

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Speaker 1: Really push himself. There is an element in there of

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Speaker 2: And he said to you before he went to Africa,

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Speaker 2: what have I done?

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Speaker 1: I can't do this? He is.

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Speaker 2: I've made vision for his own mental health and self esteem,

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Speaker 2: all of those things, Like this is going to be

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Speaker 2: like a life changing thing.

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Speaker 1: I hope, So I do hope so for him individually,

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Speaker 1: personal level, like we've been made since grade eight, this

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Speaker 2: And the other thing is that you're potentially going to

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Speaker 2: he enjoy watching those horrible trials to eat.

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Speaker 1: I don't have any Yeah, I don't have any sympathy there.

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Speaker 1: I think last night was something like his dinner and

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Speaker 1: like opened it up and it was like chook's feet

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Speaker 1: I had.

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Speaker 2: Steak and prawns. When you have moments of the kids

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Speaker 1: Fuck. I hadn't consider that, but maybe I'll take myself

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Speaker 2: You're going to think about your dinners so much over

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Speaker 2: the next six weeks, and you're going to just enjoy

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Speaker 2: them so much. Thinking about what Sam's do?

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Speaker 1: You know what? The one thing and I'm just going

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Speaker 1: to wrap this up because this is relevant to all

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Speaker 1: mums and dads. Majority would be very reliant on one coffee,

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Speaker 1: maybe two a day. Sam was at four. His throat

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Speaker 1: will be cut over. Yes, number one it would be food,

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Speaker 1: but number two would be coffee. Yeah, so every time

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Speaker 1: I do have a coffee, which is like I'm in

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Speaker 1: that quota of two a day, Yeah, think of him.

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Speaker 1: I have one, and I think Jesus is nice. So

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Speaker 1: selfish hats off to him. Good luck, Sam, good luck

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Speaker 1: to be amazing. I'll just hold the fort for everything else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you ever do that thing? I do know

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Speaker 2: to kind of know, I'm owed a weekend away sort

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Speaker 2: of thing, like you've got six weeks.

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Speaker 1: I know this, and we're both turning forty this year,

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Speaker 1: and one hundred percent people that know me very well

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Speaker 1: yesterday in phone calls because it was a very busy day,

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Speaker 1: if he gets the finals, you've got six weeks. And

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Speaker 2: I can't What do you want to do for your

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Speaker 2: fortieth raight, I'm just gonna go away six weeks on

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Speaker 2: my own.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, don't even worry. It's crossed my mind several times.