1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: On scolds Oskolia. This is the Reader Panalty Show. 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show. 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, a convicted murderer who stabbed a mother 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 3: to death will be released from prison to undergo IVF treatment. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: Prue McSween will. 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: Be here to discuss the latest failings of the Victorian 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 3: justice system. We have the brilliant Douglas Murray and Batier 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: Ungasagne on tonight. 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: We are being spoilt with great minds. And later in 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: the hour, Army. 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: Horowitz will join me from Israel as the country strikes 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 3: a ceasefire deal with Hesbula and left He's losing It 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 3: features more than. 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 4: One Hollywood star. My country is in its adolescence. Adolescence 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 4: is very arrogant. Adolescence thinks it knows everything. 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: Joining me now is Sky News contributor Prue McSween. Prue, 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: let's start with fresh polling from red Bridge, which is 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: led by a labor operative. 19 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: Their research is revealed. 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 3: That just one percent of blue collar workers strongly agreed 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: that the Albaneze labor government has got its priorities right. 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: You compare that to twenty one percent of professionals and 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: managers through this political realignment we keep talking about on 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 3: this program and on this station is real. 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: And what's also real is that Anthony Albanese isn't a 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: fair bit of trouble well. 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 5: He's totally abandoned his primary workers, who are the people 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 5: who traditionally voted labor. He's pursuing his virtue signaling ideological 29 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 5: pro vanity projects. They don't resonate with people who are 30 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 5: trading off whether they turn the lights on, pay the rent, 31 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 5: or buy food for their children. He has totally lost 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 5: any understanding of what Middle Australia is going through and 33 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,399 Speaker 5: we're all hurting. I don't care who it is. The 34 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 5: working poor is a thriving sector now and he seems 35 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 5: incapable of coming up with any solutions. We have charmers, 36 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 5: the wonder Boy Treasurer who's pretending to be a treasurer 37 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 5: who has no idea. They're lying to us. They're lying 38 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 5: that what they're doing is actually going to help with 39 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 5: interest rates, help us with cost of living. They promised 40 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 5: at the elections that life was going to be so 41 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 5: much better, and in fact it's got worse than it 42 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 5: ever has. The statistics are saying that we've gone back 43 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 5: to almost the nineteen fifties standard of living and we're 44 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 5: living it. So alban Izzy has lost any credibility and 45 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 5: I don't believe the man is going to survive. I 46 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 5: don't think it will be a hung parliament. I think 47 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 5: that Dutton will romp it in. 48 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: Well, you're right about those living standards. The data that 49 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: we've been talking about in the past week is shocking. 50 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: We've seen the biggest drop in living standards, even bigger 51 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: than the last four recessions we've faced, and that's reflected 52 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: in this polling by Redbridge as well. Only thirty one 53 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: percent of Australians said they were better off than they 54 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: were two and a half years ago. So more than 55 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: two thirds of Australians are saying we're worse off at 56 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 3: a time where the government's telling us on everything's going 57 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: really well. 58 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: I'll just look at. 59 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: The figures we're. 60 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: Putting in front of you. 61 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 6: Now. 62 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: Let's talk about Japan's former ambassador to Australia, Shino Yaga Mami. 63 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: He's revealed in his new book Combating China's Wolf Warrior 64 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: Diplomacy that he was summoned to Penny Wong's office back 65 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one and cautioned over his public criticism 66 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: of China. He writes, the choice of the word caution 67 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: smacked of lecturing. As a general protocol of diplomacy, it 68 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: was extraordinary and unacceptable for any ambassador representing his country 69 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: to not to such a message from somebody who is 70 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: not even representing her country. Prue, this does seem like 71 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: an extraordinary thing for a shadow Foreign Affairs minister to do. 72 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: Was Penny Wang speaking on her own behalf or she's 73 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 3: representing Labor when she did. 74 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 5: This, Well, she's an audacious person. She's very confident in 75 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 5: herself to think that she can do this to break 76 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 5: protocol almost you know, when we don't really this man 77 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 5: had no idea whether she was speaking personally or on 78 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 5: behalf of the opposition and potential government. But we all 79 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 5: understand that Penny Wog and Labor have very unique special 80 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 5: friendship with China, with these communists, and clearly that was 81 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 5: on the agenda well before they got into power. And 82 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 5: to actually feel that she can shirt front an ambassador 83 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 5: from another country for suggesting a bipartisana approach between Australia 84 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 5: and Japan over communist China's audacity and aggression in the 85 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 5: South China Sea and with the trade tariffs. It's just remarkable. 86 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 5: This woman we know is a mean girl. Being mean 87 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 5: to other countries diplomats is way beyond the pale when 88 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 5: you're particularly only in opposition. 89 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: Well, we know the Prime ministert Anthony alban Easy is 90 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: the favorite of the Chinese Communist Party at the moment, 91 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: they keep singing his praises, saying other countries should follow 92 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 3: his leader. Handsome boy is in the good books right now. 93 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: That abs cheer Kim Williams has launched a astonishing attack 94 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: against the world's leading podcaster, Joe Rogan. 95 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: Have a listened to what he had to say. 96 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 7: I think people like mister Rogan pray on people's vulnerabilities. 97 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 7: They pray on fear, they pray on anxiety, they pray 98 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 7: on all of the elements that contribute to uncertainty in society, 99 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 7: and they entrepreneur fantasy outcomes and conspiracy outcomes as being 100 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 7: a normal part of social narrative. I personally find it 101 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 7: deeply repulsive, and to think that someone has such remarkable 102 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 7: power in the United States is something that I look 103 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 7: at in disbelief. I'm also absolutely in dismay that this 104 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 7: can be a source of public entertainment when it's really 105 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 7: treating the public as plunder for purposes that are really quite. 106 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: Malevolent, deeply repulsive disbelief, dismay. It's clear that Kid Williams 107 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: doesn't actually listen to Joe Rogan because just about everything 108 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: is said there was false and it just shows how 109 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: out of touch and clueless is And given we fund 110 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: the ABC to the tune of a billion dollars, more 111 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: than a billion dollars every year, I. 112 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: Got to say, Peru doesn't fill me with confidence me neither. 113 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 5: I mean, why is this man in this position if 114 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 5: he feels that someone who gets eleven million listeners to 115 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 5: his podcast, who has the most sense a lot more 116 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 5: and then some I'm probably more, you're right, and then 117 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 5: has people knocking on his door, the world leaders, people 118 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 5: who are scientists, the biggest brains in the world, wanting 119 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 5: to be part of this conversation which is unfiltered. It's 120 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 5: william suggesting that someone who is so successful that people 121 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 5: want to listen to is dangerous, is someone that shouldn't 122 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 5: be fostered and celebrated. Clearly, he doesn't understand that or 123 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 5: perhaps it's foreign to him because he works at the 124 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 5: ABC and no one really wants to listen to anything 125 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 5: they say, so maybe it's just such a foreign thing. 126 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 8: But you know, the bloke is dreaming. 127 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 5: I've got to say, if he thinks that he is 128 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 5: in despair over this, in a quandary over it, and 129 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 5: clearly is in the wrong job, when get out Kim, 130 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 5: because honestly, give someone a job to handle it. 131 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing to have someone in a position 132 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: like that who is so out of touch with the 133 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: current media environment, with how people consume news, people have 134 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: conversations the public square, and to have such a warped 135 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: out look really just doesn't speak well for the job 136 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 3: is going to be doing there. And as far as 137 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: the APC goes, it doesn't matter how far left, how 138 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 3: anti Israel their coverage is, it's still not left enough, 139 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 3: not anti Israel enough for some of the pro Palestinian lobby. 140 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 2: Listen to this poor ABC reporter being abused while she 141 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: was trying to do across aby safe pullet. 142 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 9: Hey they save blot come. 143 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 10: About propaganda, propaganda. 144 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: Zonus media, Zonus media. I got to say, every ABC 145 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: report I've seen on this story has been very much 146 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: leaning to the Palestine the inside, but still not enough 147 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 3: for some of those activists. 148 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 5: No, clearly not. She did very well to keep going, 149 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 5: but they don't want to hear other perspectives on the ABC, 150 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 5: and it's really unusual that this reporter has survived to 151 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 5: be there. But you know, clearly it's appalling that in 152 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 5: this country we have people who've either come here or 153 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 5: have grown up here and do not want to have 154 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 5: intelligent debate anymore in our news media or just generally. 155 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 5: And it's a real concern that we should all be really, 156 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 5: really anxious about. 157 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: This has got me anxious. 158 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 3: Convicted murderer Alicia Schiller, who was jailed in twenty seventeen 159 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: for sixteen years for stabbing a mother to death over 160 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 3: fifty dollars, She's been granted approval to be released from 161 00:10:51,880 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 3: Victoria's maximum security prison to receive IVF treatment prove I'm 162 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: not even going to go to the sixteen year sentence. 163 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: And whether that's inadequate or not, but I would have 164 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: thought that is the price you pay when your liberty 165 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 3: is taken away, when you're being punished for committing a 166 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: heinous crime. Like this the worst crime you can commit. 167 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: That means that you have lost things. 168 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: Like perhaps the opportunity to have children. 169 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: And if she actually does have a child, that child 170 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 3: has to be raised in prison because she still has 171 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: a prison term to serve. So we're going to have 172 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: a toddler running around in maximum security. 173 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: Is that really something we want to inflict on a child. 174 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 5: So this woman's killed a mother and now wants to 175 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 5: be a mother and wants the state. 176 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: To pay for it. All I can say, though. 177 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 5: Rita, is if she did ever have this child, it 178 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 5: would probably be better for the child if it was 179 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 5: raised by someone else. But it is quite bizarre. You're 180 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 5: so right. I mean, you're put in prison for punishment, 181 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 5: you have your rights denied, and for her to feel 182 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 5: that now she wants to have get her a dog, 183 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 5: you know, she wants something to love, and this is 184 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 5: you know, what she's now deciding is going to be 185 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 5: right for her. She's forfeited that right. And if this 186 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 5: does actually happen, I think we should all be really 187 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 5: standing up and screaming about it. 188 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 8: It's appalling. 189 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: It is appalling, but it's not surprising in the Victorian 190 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: justice system. Prim ex Queen thanks for your time tonight. 191 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: Joining me now is best selling author Douglas Murray. His 192 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: latest work is The War on the West. Douglas, let's 193 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: start with the ongoing meltdown over Donald Trump's election triumph. 194 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: Former German Chancellor Angela Merkle has lashed out at the 195 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 3: president Alex saying he's driven by emotion in contrast to 196 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: her factual approach. She also said, I wish with all 197 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 3: my heart that Kamala Harris defeats her competitor and becomes president. 198 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: I don't know why she's still wishing that, because it's 199 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: done and dusted. 200 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 3: Douglas, if only should listen to Donald Trump when you 201 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 3: warned her about Germany becoming dependent on Russian energy. 202 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: Yes, it's extraordinary, red. 203 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 6: You know. 204 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 11: Angler Merkel is much revered in Europe, and it seems 205 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 11: around the international community for being this sort of strong 206 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 11: woman who was the one who could. 207 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: Make the tough decisions and all that sort of thing. 208 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 11: But there were several just major geostrategic mistakes she made 209 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 11: in her time in office, which is still having effects 210 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 11: that reverberate across not just Europe but the world. One 211 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 11: was making Germany's and the europe so dominant on Russian gas. 212 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: Of course, her. 213 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 11: Predecessor as Chancellor actually went to work for gas from 214 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 11: the Putin, Russia owned gas company. She in meshed Germany 215 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 11: even tighter into that, and it's had consequences that have 216 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 11: been unbelievable for holding Europe a kind of hostage in 217 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 11: its relations with Russia and indeed with Ukraine. Secondly, I mean, 218 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 11: apart from anything else, you have the fact that Angela 219 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 11: Merkel and when she talks about emotion, and she used 220 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 11: emotion to make one of the worst decisions that's been 221 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 11: made in our lifetimes in Europe, which was the decision 222 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 11: that Europe's external borders should be opened and the over 223 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 11: a million illegal migrants from all over the world to 224 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 11: be allowed to just flood into Europe, something which is 225 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 11: still happening because of the laxity of her border approach. 226 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: She did that. 227 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 11: It seems purely from emotion, and you know, it's just 228 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 11: astonishing sometimes Retao that's for some reason. 229 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: Some politicians can. 230 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 11: Make absolutely epoch changing political mistakes and still be given 231 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 11: reverential interviews by the world's media, and others can make 232 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 11: tough decisions that actually save their countries, and they tend 233 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 11: to be the ones that get. 234 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: Harried in retirement by the media. 235 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 11: It's astonishing watching the career of Angela Merkel. 236 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: After office as it was during office. 237 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 3: Well, as you said, her legacy is the changing face 238 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: of Europe and will experience that for decades to come. 239 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: The illegal immigration crisis in the US and the plight 240 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: of unaccompanied children has again been highlighted, this time by Toddler. 241 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 3: She's from El Salvador, we're told, and she arrived in 242 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: the US holding a post it note with her name 243 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: and number Peninsula. 244 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 12: See D's angels Man to my mind, to Papa no manezuela, 245 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 12: but I mama understand Douglas. 246 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: There's been scanned coverage of the fact that more than 247 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: five hundred thousand unaccompanied children have crossed the border without 248 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 3: a parent or guardian since twenty twenty one, or the 249 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: fact that there's thousands of these children missing. More than 250 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: thirty thousand have failed to show up for court hearings 251 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: according to the Department of Homeland Security. What's become of 252 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: some of these children there whereabouts are unknown. 253 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: And they'll remain unknown sadly. 254 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 11: And this is another of the things that happens from 255 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 11: the let's make major decisions based. 256 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: On so called emotion. 257 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 11: Kama Harris and Joe Biden were incapable or unwilling to 258 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 11: make sure that the southern border of the United States held, 259 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 11: and so, as you say, hundreds of thousands of children 260 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 11: among others have been effectively trafficked through the border since then. 261 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 11: The American system is inevitably completely overwhelmed, as the European 262 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 11: system has been in recent years, as the Australian system 263 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 11: would have been if the Australian authorities hadn't have taken 264 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 11: some control of their borders in recent years or in 265 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 11: recent decades. The US authorities do not have the capability 266 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 11: to make sure that children born in the United States 267 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 11: turn up to school and don't play truant. The idea 268 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 11: that they could keep a tab on hundreds of thousands 269 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 11: of illegals and children who are illegal migrants who've been 270 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 11: trafficked over the border is frankly ludicrous. There just isn't 271 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 11: the capability in DHS or anywhere else to address this. 272 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 11: And all those I user term carefully, all those so 273 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 11: called liberals who are in favor of so called liberal 274 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 11: border policies, they never bother to look at what the 275 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 11: next steps are in the consequences of their so called liberalism. 276 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: They never bother. 277 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 11: They just they thrive on the moral high of saying, 278 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 11: at least we don't have strict borders. And then they 279 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 11: let the story disappear because the moral high has disappeared, 280 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 11: And it would disappear, wouldn't it, because the rest of 281 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 11: the story isn't going to be so good. The rest 282 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 11: of the story is going to be children trafficked at 283 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 11: worst and at best put through a sort of black 284 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 11: market systems set me legal illegal status for. 285 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: Many years to come. So you know, well done, guys 286 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: for the emotion thing. 287 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 11: This is what you get when you pretend that politics 288 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 11: is like an episode of the show Glee. 289 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 3: Now you did warn us some months ago about the ICC, 290 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 3: and you've been proven right there. The International Criminal Court 291 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 3: has now issued arrest warrens for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin 292 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 3: Nettina who and former Israeli Defense minister you have, gallant? 293 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 3: Does this mean, Douglas, that the democratically elected prime minister 294 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: of the only Jewish state in the world is going 295 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 3: to be arrested if he travels to France or Britain 296 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 3: or Germany or indeed Australia. 297 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: Well, we're going to see on this reata. 298 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 11: But it's got an exceptionally it's an exceptionally dangerous precedent. 299 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: The International Criminal Court. Of course, neither is. 300 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 11: Now Israel nor America as signatories to it, very wisely 301 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 11: in my view, because I think they realize there's no 302 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 11: scenario in which an Israeli or American soldier or politician, 303 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 11: retired or serving should ever be subjected to the whims 304 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 11: of one of these corrupt so called international bodies. But 305 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 11: of course many European countries and others are signatories to 306 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 11: the International Criminal Court. This prosecutor from the UK, Karim Khan, 307 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 11: has been the one pushing these arrest warrants. He did 308 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 11: also issue an arrest warrant for a one leader of 309 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 11: Hamaz who's dead, so that's brilliant. Obviously, it seems that 310 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 11: the International Criminal Court in its jurisdiction now has not 311 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 11: just anyone in the world, including democratic leaders in its sites, 312 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 11: but also the dead. So that's a total farce. But 313 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 11: it's going to be a very interesting tests this. So 314 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 11: now there are only arrest warrants out for the first 315 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 11: time for democratically elected leaders They've tried this stunt on 316 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 11: Vladimir Putin, but they've never dared to try it on 317 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 11: a democratically elected leader before, and they have with Netanyahu 318 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 11: and Gallant. It has serious repercussions. As I mentioned in 319 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 11: the New York Post, it could potentially mean that neither 320 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 11: these Raeli prime minister nor the former defensemen is that 321 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 11: can go, say, you know, to Europe or in fly 322 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 11: over European airspace. Some European countries have already said they 323 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 11: absolutely will not recognize these absurd kangaroo court warrants. Hungary, Austria, 324 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 11: a number of other European countries have said absolutely they won't. 325 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 11: The ones that I'm interested in are for rather obvious reasons. 326 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 11: I'm very interested in Britain. The Labor government is squirming 327 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 11: about this. It has previously said it would observe the 328 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 11: International Criminal Court's judgments and warrants. I think they probably know, 329 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 11: among other things, that this puts them in an incredibly unpleasant, ugly, 330 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 11: visibly ugly diplomatic situation, visibly not just Israel, but America, 331 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 11: and of course also maybe they also know Rita that 332 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 11: if you're going to start going around issuing arrest warrants 333 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 11: for war crimes. There are certain former Labor prime ministers 334 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 11: who could quite easily in the near future be in 335 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 11: the sights of that same kangaroo court. But the other 336 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 11: country IM very interested in is Germany, because of course Germany. 337 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 11: Isn't it fascinating Rita that a court set up after 338 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 11: World War II. 339 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: To prevent. 340 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 11: War crimes should end up in its first judgment against 341 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 11: the democratically elected leader singling out the minister of the 342 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 11: one Jewish State, and that Germany a signatory undermines it 343 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 11: would actually possibly be arresting the leader of the one 344 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 11: Jewish State. Fascinating to see. 345 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: What Germany does. 346 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 2: Douglas Murray, thank you so much for your time tonight. 347 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: Thank you, and the full version of that interview is 348 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: available on. 349 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 3: Our digital platforms including Stoney's Australia's channel on YouTube. Still 350 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 3: to come and Left He's Losing It. Plus a leading 351 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 3: investigative journalist blows the whistle on how a major network 352 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: buried the Biden laptop stories. 353 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: Battia Ungar Sagon is up next. Welcome back. It's time 354 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: for Lefties Losing ed. 355 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 3: Let's start with a special message from Vice President and 356 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: failed presidential candidate Kamala Harris. 357 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: Is this message delivered to her voters or is it 358 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: for herself? 359 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 13: I just have to remind you, don't you ever let 360 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 13: anybody take your power from you. You have the same 361 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 13: power that you did before November fifth, and you have 362 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 13: the same purpose that you did, and you have the 363 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 13: same ability to engage and inspire. So don't ever let 364 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 13: anybody or any circumstance take your power from you. 365 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 2: Where's the joy? 366 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: Yes, it does feel like she is repeating a mantrat 367 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 3: to herself in the mirror daily. Now to someone else 368 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: who needs a good hard look in the mirror, because 369 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 3: everything Sharon Stone spews in this sad little Die tribe 370 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 3: actually applies to her and her ilk. 371 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 4: My country is in its adolescence. Adolescence is very arrogant. 372 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 4: Adolescence thinks it knows everything. Adolescence is naive and ignorant 373 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: and arrogant. And we are in our ignorant, arrogant adolescence. 374 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 4: We haven't seen this before in our country. So Americans 375 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 4: who don't travel, who eighty percent don't have a passport, 376 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 4: who are uneducated, are in their extraordinary naivete. 377 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 3: Extraordinary the deep delusion the self delighted arrogance and ignorance 378 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 3: of a Hollywood elite who has zero understanding of our 379 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: own country and countrymen, let alone the world. Even her 380 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: little stat there about passports was wildly wrong, but the 381 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 3: ill informed hatefield rant. 382 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 2: Did not end there. 383 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 4: Those good men must be very aware that a lot 384 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 4: of your friends are not good men. And you can't 385 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 4: continue to pretend that your friends are good men when 386 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 4: they are not good men. And you must be very 387 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 4: clear minded and understand that your friends who are not 388 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 4: good men are dangerous, violent men, and you have to 389 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 4: keep them away from your daughters, your wives, and your girlfriends. 390 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: Finally, she had the courage to speak out about bad 391 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: men when Harvey Weinstein was preying upon young women. But 392 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 3: then Harvey is a Democrat. He hated Trump, he hates Trump. 393 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: He even marched with the pussy hat brigade. Can you 394 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 3: believe that against Donald. 395 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 2: Trump and your remained protected? 396 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 3: And let's end this Sharon Stone interlude with this ridiculous 397 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 3: remark where she compares the real fascism Italy experienced in 398 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 3: the past with Trump's election victory. 399 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: You know, Italy has seen fascism. Italy has seen these things. 400 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 4: You guys you understand what happens. 401 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 3: Oh dear, someone should tell Sharon who the Italian prime 402 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: minister is right now. 403 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: It's the Italian Trump. 404 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: Georgia Maloney, a center right woman who the media decried 405 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: as a fascist, a far right extremist and a threat 406 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: to the country. Sound familiar. She's now among, if not 407 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 3: the most popular leader in Europe. Also in Italy is 408 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: another lefty losing it, and he's a regular in this segment, 409 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: Alec Baldwin, fresh from an awful Saturday Night live performance, 410 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 3: and he too was bashing his country and his countrymen. 411 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: It's a very difficult time in the United States America. 412 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: It's a very uninformed about reality. W what's really going on? 413 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 10: Let's climate change, Ukraine is the way you name it, 414 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 10: all the biggest topics in the world. 415 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 3: Now to Sann where Scott Jennings is the token conservative 416 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: continues to embarrass the lefty losers. 417 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 6: I heard what you're saying about X. I saw a 418 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 6: survey this week. It's now the most ideologically balanced Oh 419 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 6: com user platform. 420 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 14: God stop stop, it's too early. 421 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 2: I just said down. 422 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 9: But we've been here for tras the show. 423 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 2: But you cannot say that that's the case at what 424 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: I thought. 425 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: We've reported it on this network. 426 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: It's not accurate and you know it. 427 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 15: Okay, let you make your saying, Yes, Scott, what's your source? 428 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 15: What's your source? It's too early for facts. Let's have 429 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 15: a look at what his sources. Where Scott got those 430 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 15: facts and figures from. 431 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: Look at this the party idea. 432 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 8: Among those who regularly use X slash Twitter for news. 433 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 8: Back in twenty twenty two, sixty five percent of those 434 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 8: who regularly use Twitter slash X for news, we're Democrats, 435 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 8: just thirty one percent Republicans. Look at where we are today, 436 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 8: just a completely different picture. Now it's basically split between 437 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 8: Democrats at forty eight percent Republicans at forty seven percent. 438 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 8: And what I should not mister Berman, is this now, 439 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 8: this new overall makeup matches the overall electriate far better. 440 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: Democrats still outnumber Republicans on X, but it's some sort 441 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: of far right side. 442 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: I mean, people who spew that nonsense obviously have. 443 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 3: Zero experience on social media, or they're just dishonest. 444 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: Take your pick. 445 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 3: Now, let's check in with a grown man who identifies 446 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 3: as a baby wearing a diaper, and he has a 447 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 3: disturbing update for us. 448 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 16: Yeah, workome our drop off of order and my date 449 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 16: he's getting kind of full right now, so I might 450 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 16: need to change really soon. But it is very discreete 451 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 16: check out my last of a discrete outfits video. But 452 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 16: my daper is getting a little. 453 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: Full right now. 454 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 3: Joining me now is Deputy Opinion editor at Newsweek, Battia 455 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 3: on Ga Sagon. Tia, let's hear from Emmy Award winning 456 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 3: former CBS investigative journalist Catherine Harry, who left the network 457 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: early this year and can now reveal how they refused 458 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: to air the stories the contents of that infamous Biden 459 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 3: laptop until after the midterm elections. 460 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 14: I went to a lot of effort to get the 461 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 14: cleanest copy of the laptop data, the same data that 462 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 14: was provided to the FBI, because I didn't want to 463 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 14: have any professional journalistic risk for CBS News. I wanted 464 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 14: this thing to be totally locked down. When we did 465 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 14: the story, we did it after the midterms. I argued 466 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 14: against that because it was ready before the midterms, and 467 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 14: my training is that you should always do the story 468 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 14: when it's ready to go. You should not be dictated 469 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 14: by the political cycle. 470 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: But Tia, the story was good to go. It was ready, 471 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: but they didn't want to run it before the midterms. 472 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 10: It's an absolute scandal. 473 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 9: Rito. 474 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 10: What you have here is a news organization pretending to 475 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 10: be objective and actually literally carrying water for one of 476 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 10: the candidates and one of the parties and one of 477 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 10: the sides in this two party system here. And when 478 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 10: you think about the fact that CBS ran one of 479 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 10: the presidential or the vice presidential debate, right like, how 480 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 10: can this be? How can we allow this to stand 481 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 10: where the media has chosen a side when it is 482 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 10: their job to help the American people choose what is 483 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 10: best for them. And you just see this in time 484 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 10: and time again. You know, CBS just got caught doing it. 485 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 10: But if you think that the journalists at the New 486 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 10: York Times and The Atlantic and the Washington Post and 487 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 10: CNN and MSNBC are any different, they really aren't. Ninety 488 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 10: six percent of journalists are Democrats. 489 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 2: It's a huge scandal, it is, and it only gets 490 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: worse here. 491 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 3: Catherine explains, CBS did not want to report on legitimate 492 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 3: stories like the use of the N word in these 493 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 3: text messages. 494 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 14: Once we got the laptop story on the Morning News, 495 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 14: I felt that there was so much there that we 496 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 14: could still do. For example, in the text messages, there's 497 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 14: unfortunately the use of the word, the liberal use of 498 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 14: the N word, and I thought this was worthy of 499 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 14: a story, but I was told that it was not 500 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 14: something that interested CBS News. Then I asked for a 501 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 14: forensic review of the laptop and we found that there 502 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 14: were more than half a dozen emails that were likely 503 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 14: used by Joe Biden. I thought that was a story, 504 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 14: but the answer that came back was, well, we need 505 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 14: to know what the content is of the emails, but 506 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 14: that was going to be a year's long process. 507 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: Extraordinary not just the president's involvement in these emails, but 508 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 3: the fact that these text messages had the liberal use 509 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 3: of the N words. 510 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: She said that. 511 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 3: They would ignore that when they've been so obsessed with 512 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 3: race and any sort of racial slur or any suggestion 513 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 3: of racism, and you've got the use of the N word, 514 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: and you think. 515 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: Oh, no, one's going to be interested in that. 516 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 10: I mean, Rita, can you even imagine if they found 517 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 10: text messages from Eric Trump or Don Junior that had 518 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 10: the N word in them. I mean, they would talk 519 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 10: about nothing else for a month. I mean, you just 520 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 10: know that this is true. And meanwhile, they smear Donald Trump, 521 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 10: and they smear the MAGA movement as racist when actually 522 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 10: covering up actual racism on their own side. And it's 523 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 10: so amazing because you know that they are out there scouring, 524 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 10: scouring tapes for some indication that Donald Trump is racist, 525 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 10: a man who obviously does not have a racist bone 526 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 10: in his body, because they found nothing, nothing, reader in 527 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 10: all of this time, while actively suppressing evidence that Joe 528 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 10: Biden's own son uses the N word. I mean, it's 529 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 10: really so revealing, and I'm so glad that this reporting 530 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 10: is out there, and I'm so glad that you are 531 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 10: calling attention to it. 532 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: Well, is it any wonder that trust in the media 533 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 3: is at historic lows in the US, and you can 534 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 3: see why people are increasingly turning to the likes of 535 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 3: Joe Rogan. The Democrats are very eager to create their 536 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 3: own Joe Rogan. But as he explains, yeah, they had him, 537 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 3: he was a Democrat. Listen to this discussion between Joe 538 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: Rogan and Mark Anderson. 539 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 6: To pay people, it's not going to have the same impact. 540 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 6: You know, think these call her Daddy shows and all 541 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 6: these different shows that she went on. I mean, I'm 542 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 6: sure they had an impact, but I think that in 543 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 6: the future, I'm sure they're scrambling to try to create 544 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 6: their own version of this show. This is one thing 545 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 6: that keeps coming up, like we need our own Joe Rogan. 546 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 10: But they had me number one, They had you number one, 547 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 10: They had you, they had you in the drive of 548 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 10: your way. 549 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: Is that number one numbers? 550 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 6: But they also have you know, ABCNBCCBS, CNN, right, but 551 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 6: that doesn't work anymore. 552 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 2: They had him. 553 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 3: He was a Democrat, like so many others now who 554 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 3: are standing with Donald Trump, including Elon Musk and RFK Junior, 555 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 3: Tarsi Gabbard. Joe Rogan donated to Bernie Sanders. It was 556 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 3: a Bernie bry wasn't he. And to see him be 557 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 3: red peel, to see him be personally attacked by the 558 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 3: leftist media, and it's opened his eyes to how the 559 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 3: system works. What will the Democrats have to do to 560 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 3: counter this? Because that can go and pay podcasts, that 561 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 3: can pay Oprah, but it just doesn't have the same impact. 562 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 10: The reason that you can't imagine a Joe Rogan on 563 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 10: the left is because the thing that they want is 564 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 10: not the thing that he is actually doing. They believe 565 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 10: that they are smarter than everybody else and that therefore 566 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 10: they should be able to tell the American people what 567 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 10: to think, and then they project their fantasy onto Joe 568 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 10: Rogan that he's literally telling people what to think, and 569 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 10: they're following him like zombies as he tells them to 570 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 10: vote for Donald Trump, when of course the opposite is 571 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 10: the case. The reason Joe Rogan is so popular is 572 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 10: because he never tells anybody what to think. He listens 573 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 10: to this one, he listens to that one, He asks questions, 574 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 10: and then he's like, eh, who knows, make up your 575 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 10: own mind, right. That's why he's so popular because he 576 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 10: is a truly independent thinker. And that's why you will 577 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 10: never have a Joe Rogan on the left because Rita 578 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 10: they are incapable of independent thought, which is why the 579 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 10: American people have totally turned on them. 580 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 2: Well, it's becoming like Islamism. 581 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 3: As someone who escaped an Islamist country, it's total submission. 582 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 3: You either submit to what we think on every issue, 583 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 3: or you're on the outer. You start getting attacked, and 584 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 3: that's what happened with Rogan. I want to ask you 585 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 3: about special counsel Jack Smith has dropped the January sixth 586 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 3: and classified document cases against Donald Trump. We spoke about 587 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 3: that yesterday, but we cannot get past the manner in 588 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 3: which he weaponized the Department of Justice. He wasn't alone, 589 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 3: but let's not forget he tried to bypass lower court rulings. 590 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 3: He tried desperately to manipulate the process so the trial 591 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 3: could be before the election. Is there going to be 592 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 3: any accountability for Jack Smith and others like him? 593 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 10: You know, there are competing impulses here we are. On 594 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 10: the one hand, Donald Trumps been very clear that he 595 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 10: does not intend to persecute his political opposition or to 596 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 10: re revenge. He's not interested in that. On the other hand, 597 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 10: he has said repeatedly they're not coming after me because 598 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 10: of me. They're coming after me because they're coming after you, 599 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 10: the American people. I'm just standing in the way. And 600 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 10: I think it's very important to him to make sure 601 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 10: that this can't happen to any other Americans who don't 602 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 10: have his resources. And so I think that's the fine 603 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 10: line that you're gonna see Pambondi and others trying to 604 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 10: walk here, which is to somehow bring justice back to 605 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 10: justice to somehow de weaponize the justice system, but not 606 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 10: to then reweaponize it as a revenge tactic. So there 607 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 10: were real, real abuses of the law which deserved to 608 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 10: be You know, we need accountability there, but I think 609 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 10: it's going to be done in a very delicate, balanced way, 610 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 10: or I hope so. 611 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely. But as you said, the keyword there was accountability. 612 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 3: Those who have abused their power, abused their officers need 613 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 3: to face accountability. Otherwise there is no reason for this 614 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 3: not to happen again. And I think it's just that 615 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 3: sense of justice that needs to prevail here. Batia Unga Sagon. 616 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 3: Always a pleasure. 617 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 10: Thank you so much for you to God bless you 618 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 10: soon still to come. 619 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 3: Army Horowitz joins me from Israel as the country strikes 620 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 3: a ceaseply deal with Hezbula. 621 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 2: You're watching the Rita Panny Show. 622 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 3: Joining me now from Israel is documentary filmmaker and commentator 623 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 3: Armi Horoiz. Armi Israel and Hezbula have now entered into 624 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 3: a permanent ceasepire. This is an agreement that was mediated 625 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 3: by President Joe Biden. But as The Washington Post reported 626 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 3: two weeks ago, the seaspy deal is a result of 627 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 3: Donald Trump's election victory. The Washington Post reports that during 628 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 3: a visit to Marra Lago, one of Benjamin ETTINNYA, who's 629 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 3: senior as, told Donald Trump that Israel's rushing a ceaspy 630 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 3: deal in Lebanon as a gift to Trump before traveling 631 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 3: to the White House to hold talks with President Biden. 632 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 3: What else can you tell me about this ceasepire deal? 633 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 3: Is there confidence in Israel that it will hold? 634 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 17: Yeah, there are a lot of people in Israel who 635 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 17: are happy this is going to happen. Look, it's always 636 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 17: unknown whether or not ceasefires hold or they don't. 637 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 9: Only time will tell. 638 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 17: We're talking about a dealing with an implacable enemy who 639 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 17: has made it their life's work to destroy the state 640 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 17: of Israel. So you're always dealing with the group of 641 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 17: people who you can deal with in the short term, 642 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 17: but I think solved nothing in the long term when 643 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 17: it comes to as firelight. But for the most part, Look, 644 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 17: I'm in Israel. This is this is a new event 645 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 17: that happened just forard the end of the night. But 646 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 17: people are skeptical, but I think overall are happy about it. Look, 647 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 17: this is so interesting. Let's go back to January nineteen 648 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 17: eighty one and a few hours, actually, a few minutes 649 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 17: after Ronald Reagan was inaugurated as president, the Iranians let 650 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 17: go of all the American hostages because they were frightened 651 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 17: about what he would do to them, right, coming off 652 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 17: a democratic president who they didn't fear at all. 653 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 9: Right, does this makes sense at all? This remind you 654 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 9: of anything today? Look, this is not Trump, Trump's first 655 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 9: foreign policy win before he's become president. 656 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 17: Just earlier this month, Kat Dark Kid Caamas out of 657 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 17: their country. They didn't do it because they feared Biden. 658 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 17: They did it because they feared Trump. We were already 659 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 17: seeing Trump's sixth sas in the foreign policy sphere. Look, 660 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 17: I'm actually now becoming more optimistic about what he can do. 661 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 17: Let's say, with with Ukraine and Russia. I think both 662 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 17: sides fear Trump. Both sides realized that they need to 663 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 17: make a deal because they're not sure what Trump is. 664 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 2: Going to do. 665 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 9: And I think that's a good Thingness. 666 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 17: This lack of clarity on how Trump is going to react, 667 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 17: he's actually served him really well. Look again, to go 668 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 17: not to go overall his greatest hits but I'll remind 669 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 17: you of when everybody's attacking Donald Trump for his view 670 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 17: on NATO, he had this quote unquote bluster about defunding NATO. 671 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 9: You know what the net result that was, that result 672 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 9: that was the six out of the thirty one. 673 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 17: NATO countries who before Donald Trump did not hit at 674 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,439 Speaker 17: their two percent threshold target on spending. Now twenty three 675 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 17: out of thirty one are in fact hitting that number 676 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 17: because they were scared about how Trump might react. All 677 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 17: these things are interconnected. Rito, All these things are an 678 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,760 Speaker 17: out growth of a Trump presidency that's on the horizon. 679 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's peace through strength. That's been the philosophy. That is, 680 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 3: it might seem erratic and unconventional, but it works. It's 681 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 3: worked in the past, and let's hope it works again. 682 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 3: And it seems to be working already now. Talk about 683 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 3: talking about Donald Trump's a transition team. 684 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 2: He's picked doctor. 685 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 3: J Batacheria to lead the NIH. He is the nomination 686 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 3: now for Director of the National Institute of Health. This 687 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 3: is army, I've got to say, a brilliant pick. He 688 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 3: is professor at Stanford School of Medicine, and throughout the 689 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 3: COVID era, he showed enormous good judgment. He showed enormous 690 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 3: courage to challenge some of the bone headed, anti scientific 691 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 3: and harmful COVID measures we saw, from school closures to 692 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 3: mass lockdowns. He was attacked for it, he was defamed 693 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 3: for it, but he stood up to that bullying. To 694 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 3: speak truth to power, and to see him elevated and 695 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 3: recognized like this, I think is enormously important and he 696 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 3: will do a great job in the role. 697 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 17: I mean, Rita, you took the words right in my mouth. 698 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 17: There's nothing I really need to add to that. 699 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 9: It was a great pick. 700 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 17: It was another winning pick for Donald Trump, and certainly 701 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 17: it's a pick that the left fears. 702 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 9: I don't know exactly why, but they seem. 703 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 17: To think that anybody who had a counterprevailing view of 704 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 17: COVID with some kind of weird anti scientific whack job, 705 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 17: when in reality history has proven them right. 706 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 10: Right. 707 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 9: His entire. 708 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 17: Process of saying, look, let's trunch out the people who 709 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 17: have COVID by age, by their ability to get particularly 710 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 17: sick by COVID. Let's create and immuniate natural immunity just 711 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 17: far more a durable than these shots. The jabs, as 712 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 17: they called it, that they were given has all proven 713 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 17: to be correct. Yet the left is up in arms 714 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 17: about this pick. It goes to show how they are 715 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 17: not living a reality. Again, going back to why did 716 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,800 Speaker 17: Trump win this election for these kind of reasons, because 717 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 17: the left is so out of touch with mainstream America 718 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 17: how they view the world, and by the way, how 719 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 17: they viewed COVID looking now back in the past. And 720 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 17: by the way, he's also spoken very publicly butt the 721 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 17: NIH prior to this pick, talking about the need for 722 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 17: efficiency in this organization. And by the way, this is 723 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 17: a hallmark of all of Trump's picks, the idea that 724 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 17: there needs to be government efficiency, government accountability. 725 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 9: This is another pick that will do exactly that. I'm thrilled. 726 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 3: Government efficiency and also doing something about that overreach because 727 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 3: we've seen institutions be guilty of that in recent years. 728 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 2: You've been out and about talking to lefties. 729 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 3: You love doing that, And I've got to say, they've 730 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 3: got some strange ideas about borders. 731 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,240 Speaker 2: They seem to think borders are racist racist. 732 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 6: Yes, oh, wait to do this, I'm really there's no 733 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 6: need to really expand on that, just kind of self explanatory. 734 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, do you think that having a border is an 735 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 9: expression of racism. 736 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: It's a tool of research, that's control. 737 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 2: So they automatically racist. 738 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 8: I think they were better than lemus. 739 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 2: Why because we're starting there on that side. 740 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 3: Well, those folks are going to be very triggered when 741 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 3: they hear from this next next grab, this is Trump's 742 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 3: borders are pig. Tom Holman, who's worn sanctuary cities against 743 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 3: blocking immigration authorities from carrying out these mass deportations that 744 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,760 Speaker 3: Trump has promised, he is there will be harsh consequences 745 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 3: if they obstruct these plans, and his simple message is 746 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 3: don't test us. 747 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 2: Here he is alongside Texas Governor Greg Abbott. 748 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 12: So if reader on the help, that's fine. 749 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,439 Speaker 1: He can get the hell all the way. But we're 750 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,439 Speaker 1: going to go do the job. 751 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 12: President Trump has a mandate American people. 752 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,240 Speaker 9: We got to secure this country. 753 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: We got to save American lives. 754 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 3: Oh dear mey, do you think these sanctuary cities will 755 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 3: follow through on their vow to stop the deportations and 756 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 3: to go to any measure necessary to stop these deportations? 757 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 17: Following again another great pick by Donald Trump. President like 758 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 17: Donald Trump, absolutely love that guy. He is going to 759 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,399 Speaker 17: get the job done. This is so incredible to me reader, Right, 760 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 17: we literally just had an election primarily on this issue itself. Right, 761 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 17: It was the economy number one and immigration a close second. 762 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 17: It is unbelo believable to me that these blue cities 763 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 17: and blue states have not learned the lesson on this issue. 764 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 17: They are doubling down when they literally just lost an 765 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,240 Speaker 17: election because of it. This is this bodes very poorly 766 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 17: for the Democratic Party. Again, the crazy people you saw 767 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 17: just earlier, I interviewed them about racism. Yes, they're the 768 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 17: hard left, but let me tell you something. It is 769 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 17: their views that have been driving the views of the 770 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 17: general Democratic Party on immigration. And this is why we 771 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 17: had the situation we find ourselves in today. Look, not 772 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 17: only they lose the election of the general public. Let's 773 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 17: not forget that in the blue cities and the Blue states, 774 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 17: these these these elected officials are going against what their 775 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 17: own people want. 776 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 9: All of these cities. 777 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:48,359 Speaker 17: Yes, they ultimately voted for Joe Biden obviously California, Illinois, Massachusetts, 778 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 17: but they all trended toward Trump. Trump got a larger 779 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,280 Speaker 17: percentage of their share than he did and the last election. 780 00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 17: Why primarily in those cities. Now they subsolutely their cities 781 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 17: and their states. 782 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent ride, huge shifts in those blue states. 783 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 3: Army Horowitz, thanks for your time, and that's all the 784 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 3: time we have tonight. I'll see you at eleven tomorrow. 785 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 2: Newsnight is up next