WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 11 March 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:04.519 On sky Lives Ostrodia. 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:07.280 This is the Wider Paney Show. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.920 Good evening and welcome to the reader Paney Show coming 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:16.200 up tonight. Labor indulges in more disinformation online as the 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.680 party's social media campaign intensifies in the lead up to 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.600 the federal election. Patrick Carline will be here to discuss 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.479 that and much more. The new South Wales Minister for 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:30.040 Women flounders when asked about malebodies in women's sport. Stephanie 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:33.880 Bastian joins me later in the hour. Kosher Gator will 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:37.840 weigh in on whether Malcolm Turnbull's attention seeking antics will 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:41.880 cost Australia as we negotiate a tariff exemption with the US. 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:44.960 And Alex Stein will be here right after left he 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:49.200 is losing it Tonight starring the word salads specialist herself, 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:51.400 Kamala Harris. 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:54.959 And I'm thinking about this about so I was. 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.880 Willing to give up whatever might be the tracking. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:04.800 Kamala Harris's particular fondness for a notch of chief doritos. 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.600 Yes, but first, if this poll is right, the Tills 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:14.720 are in a world of trouble. Polling from fresh Water 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.039 Strategy has indicated that four of the six Climate two 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:21.679 hundred backed MPs are likely to lose their seats at 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:25.080 the next election amid a collapse in support for Labour 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:28.399 and the Greens, whose preferences the Tills rely on. In 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:33.039 curtain Keong, Goldstein and mckella, the Liberals are back on 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:37.399 top with an average two party preferred vote of fifty 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.120 one to forty nine against the Tills, and if this 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:43.399 is replicated during the election, the Coalition would boot out 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:48.560 Kate Cheney, Nique Ryan z O'Daniel and Sophie Scamps from Parliament, 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:52.520 leaving just Allegra Spender and Zali Steggle to represent the Tills. 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.520 Joining me now for more on this is News Corps 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:59.240 senior writer Patrick Carly and Patrick is this the end 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:00.480 of the Tills ex experiment? 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.720 It's an interesting poll, isn't it, Because it basically it 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:05.960 goes to the fact that in twenty twenty two we 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.079 were talking about much different things to now. Cost of 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.200 living wasn't the main issue. We weren't talking about economic management. 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.799 We're talking more about climate change. And there was also 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.840 this visceral sort of dislike for Scott Morrison in the electorate. 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.840 So the TiAl sort of cashed in on a moment 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.040 in time, if you like, and it was very successful. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:27.919 They got six seats. The world has changed dramatically since then. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.080 The Labor and the Green vote has dropped the primary vote, 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.120 and you can see, you can actually see how this 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:37.640 might actually play out, where the tials, even though their 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:40.280 voters stayed much you're saying the preferences will work against them. 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:44.400 They could be wiped out effectively. Companies election, and I. 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:49.240 Think people have discovered that they're not conservative alternatives, which 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:52.920 is how they sold themselves. It was deeply dishonest, which 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.359 is pretty ironic given that one of the other big 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.240 issues the last election was integrity. Remember it was all 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:03.400 about integrity and climate, and they were presenting themselves as 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:07.600 an alternative for liberal voters. But anyone who looked at 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.960 who they were and what their policies were, they pretty 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.320 much fit into the Greens. They're certainly in my mind, 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:17.000 left of the Labor Party. And I think Simon Holmes, 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.400 the court has done a beautiful job for the Liberals 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:23.800 getting rid of all those wets, all those smaller liberals 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.720 they were compromising the party. So I think in the 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.640 long run it's a big win for conservatives all around. 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.720 Now let's have a look at how Labour's social media 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:37.600 campaign is going. Housing Minister Cla O'Neill and a bunch 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:41.360 of her colleagues have served up this. 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:46.080 I will not be lectured about sexism and misogyny by 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:46.800 this man. 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.960 I will not and the government not be. 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.440 Lectured about saying and misogyny. 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.800 By this man. Not now, not ever. 0:03:56.200 --> 0:04:00.320 The leader of the Opposition says that people who hold sexes. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:01.280 Views and are. 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:06.040 Not appropriate for high office. Well, I hope the Leader 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:08.880 the Opposition has got a piece of paper and he 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.520 is writing out his insignation because he wants to know 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.480 what misogyny looks like in Australia. 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.680 And he doesn't need emotion. You know how this rerecumcenter is. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:27.440 He needs a mir Dear me, you think Tanya Plima 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:31.320 sec would know better, but there's a bunch of Labor ministers, 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:37.839 their MPs. That's the infamous Julia Gillard misogyny speech which 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.880 a man wrote for her. And listening to that now 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.800 and knowing the circumstances, and we knew the circumstances of 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.320 the time, but I think, how do you think that 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:52.320 speech is age? Listening to those ladies' lip sync? It 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.680 is it one that the left will be proud to 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:59.039 promote or is it now got a certain element of 0:04:59.080 --> 0:04:59.880 cringe to it. 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.200 Look, it was wrapped up in the politics of the day. 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.080 It was aimed squarely at Tony Abbott, who was opposition 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.320 leader at the time. It was in twenty twelve. Yeah, 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.080 obviously a long time ago. I'm not sure how relevant 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.000 how it's dated now. It was an important thing in 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:19.320 the moment, but actually running it out now apparently for 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:20.960 no strong reason. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.839 I could only think it would be International Women's Day 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.520 that decided, of all the things that could promote that 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:31.200 was it. And what happened shortly after twenty twelve at 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:35.280 a federal election and they lost in an absolute landslide 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.440 to Tony Abbots. So maybe that would indicate to them 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:41.360 outside the media circles, the academic circles, the activist circles, 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:44.760 that speech did not resonate. That speech was seen for 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:49.280 what it was. It was just a diversion from the 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.880 woes of the Qaali Guillard and her government at the time. 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:54.760 And I think to try and weaponize it now as 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.200 a party political sort of instrument, if you like, it 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.960 really doesn't resonate at all. Back at that speech and 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.880 you can argue the toss wasn't this important or that important. 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.279 It was a big deal at the time, but it's 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:07.360 ancient history now. 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.880 It has no sort of relevance to what's going on 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:13.839 in society today, certainly on a details level. 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.400 It just it doesn't work at all. I don't think now. 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:19.560 It sounds like it happened a long time ago. 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.320 It does. But what a Labor also gone back to 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:27.800 is their medi Scare campaign, and it was successful for 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:32.200 them last time. It certainly had an impact, and they're 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:37.360 doing it again. They're promoting what is essentially disinformation, misinformation 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.760 across social media. Let's have a look at their ad. 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:42.159 We're very clear about this. 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.760 Medicare is dead. They can't be for free. We have 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.800 to pay for a world class medical system. We are 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.600 determined to send a price signal so that we can 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:53.919 move away from the view that everything can be for 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.159 free in health in this country because it can't be. 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.800 Sounds pretty damning. You got Peter Dutton. They're saying Medicare 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:03.680 is dead, but what he actually say, Let's have a 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.000 look at the full clip. 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.080 So the government is determined to make sure that Medicare 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.080 is sustainable. We are determined to send a price signal 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.760 so that we can move away from the view that 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.200 everything can be for free in health in this country 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:16.960 because it can't be. 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:19.080 We're very clear about this. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:23.360 Medicare is dead if we can't make it sustainable today. 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:28.040 But we are absolutely determined to make Medicare sustainable so 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.800 the Labor Party can pretend to the Australian public that 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.360 things are for free. They can't be for free. We 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.200 have to pay for a world class medical system. We 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.920 will negotiate with the Senators. We are pragmatic about the 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.120 approaches that might be available to us, but we will 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:44.440 make Medicare sustainable. 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:50.440 That was just straight out just disinformation. There's no other 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.360 word for it. And it's pretty rich for a party 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:56.840 that bleeds endlessly about disinformation, that wants to suppress our 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:00.680 free speech, supposedly to protect us from disinformed, and they 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.480 pump that out. And that's a paid Facebook ad, So 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:08.240 it's not only appearing on TikTok and LinkedIn a whole 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.600 bunch of other sites, but it's actually paid and promoted 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.640 on Facebook. So I'm sure hundreds of thousands of people 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.120 have probably seen it by now. 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.480 Absolutely look they've cheated, they've misrepresented what he was trying 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.840 to say, and they've completely taken it out of context. 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:26.440 That wasn't what he was trying to say at all. 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:28.560 I think we're going to say more and more of this, 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:30.600 especially in this social media age. I mean, you can 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:33.400 get away with things that you can't in the mainstream press. 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.880 You can sort of make claims that can get some 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.080 purchase if you like, with the electorate in ways that 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.520 the mainstream press you can't do. And I'm sure we 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.760 will see more and more of this where they're just 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.400 trying it on and hoping that it actually lands to 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.240 an extent before it gets removed or called out or whatever. 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:53.679 And look, it's not good for politics, and it's not 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:55.440 good for debate because it is cheating. 0:08:55.840 --> 0:09:00.240 Well it is. It's just so deeply dishonest, and you know, 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.200 Labour parties should be better than that. Now, let's go 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.280 to a Quantus chair John Mullen, who's warned that companies 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:11.280 should steer clear of involving themselves in social causes. Quantus 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.600 has of course been guilty of doing that for many, 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:19.080 many years, and Patrick they still inflict those incessant acknowledge 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.040 amount of country announcements every time one of their planes 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:25.600 lands domestically. I know there's plenty of staff who resent 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:30.120 having to do it, but they're obliged to. Perhaps I 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.080 don't know that the chair could have a word to 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:36.480 his own CEO the board and actually take his own advice. 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:38.760 Look what John Mullen had to say. 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.040 I mean, it's a breath of fresh air after so 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.160 many years of having these big companies trying to sort 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:47.200 of read the breeze and sort of go on a 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.280 social issue that a lot of people sort of silently 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.360 have been forced to sort of grumble about and say, wow, 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.600 I don't agree with that. John Mullen makes a good point. 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:57.560 He talks about the regions that don't like big city 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:01.360 elites imposing values on them and telling them how to think, 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.280 and he use the word lecturing. These big companies can't 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.320 lecture Australians. We don't want to be lectured. We don't 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.000 want to be told what to think. I think this 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.160 is so welcome to hear a CEO actually saying this 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:17.480 after so many years of actually being force fared this 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.720 big company nonsense, which is about you know, it's about 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.360 sort of getting people on side. It's about sort of 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:27.160 being on the right side of history. What mister Mullen 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.920 used the term just do the knitting and in this 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:31.319 case just fly planes. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.760 I don't care what qunscious thinks about this or that 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:35.080 I have no interest for them. 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:39.200 That is, I think a very widely held opinion. Whatever 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:43.440 side of politics you're from, you want your corporates to 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.600 stick to their knitting, do what they're supposed to do, 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.960 and do it well, take care of their staff, take 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:51.960 care of their customers, and leave the politics to the politicians. 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.520 Patrick Carline, thank you so much for your time tonight. 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:59.080 Joining me now is Sky News contributor Kosher Gaeta Kosher. 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:03.400 Let's start with Malcolm Turnbull, the feud between Malcolm Turnbull 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.400 and US President Donald Trump. Now the prime minister. The 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.080 former prime minister did start this war of words with 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:15.080 some ill advised attention seeking. He was on US TV 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:17.960 just doing what he does, not sure what he was 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:21.160 trying to achieve there, but in response, President Trump posted 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.760 this on truth Social saying, Malcolm Turnbull, the former Prime 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:28.520 Minister of Australia, who was always leading that wonderful country 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:33.040 from behind, never understood what was going on in China 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.679 nor did he have the capacity to do so? I 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:39.080 always thought he was a week an ineffective leader, and 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:43.280 obviously Australians agreed with me, Yes we did. And Turnbull 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.680 then went on the ABC. Of course he did, and 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:48.520 he had this to say. 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:52.400 Are we just going to become just a conger line 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.160 of sycophants creeping through the White House? 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.720 Oh dear, you can just know he rehearsed those lines 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.960 in front of the mirror. What will this attention seeking 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.840 by the former prime minister do to our negotiations with 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:10.679 the US. We do want this tariff exemption. Will this 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.840 hurt or hinder that? Or will have absolutely no impact? 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:17.920 I think it certainly doesn't help. Is it the core driver? 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:22.120 Probably not. That's economic policy and where Team Trump stands 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:25.120 on that. But these things don't help Trump. We know, 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:28.480 I think everybody, but especially him, is a beast of 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.840 policy and personality. Whether it's Zelenski in the Ukraine, who 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.240 he doesn't have a lot of fondness for, whether it's 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.400 people over here, whether it's Kevin Rudd, who we know 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.240 has sparred with him as well. This just adds to that. 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.960 It's probably not good form for former prime ministers to 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.559 come in and muddy the waters anyways, is making the 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:49.320 job difficult of the current administration, and most people will 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.439 never win against Trump in a war of words. It 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.840 just will never win. So it's just better to keep 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.000 quiet and let the administration do what it's doing. 0:12:56.440 --> 0:13:00.560 And as he said previously, he's holding all the right 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.280 Now we're the ones who are wanting something, So I 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.880 would suggest let's just be a little bit more diplomatic 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:10.000 for the time being. Now, let's talk about the horrific 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:14.080 scenes in Syria of armed men loyal to the government 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:20.040 rounding up religious minorities, torturing, slaughtering them. They talking about 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:25.880 purifying the country as they kill men, women, and children Kosher. 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:31.319 This was sadly predictable. We've seen tyrants removed in countries 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:35.880 like Iraq and Libya to be replaced by something even worse, 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:40.640 And is that what's happening now in Syria appears to. 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:44.960 Be predictable predicted. Many people on camera repeatedly have said 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.240 this and called for this over the years, Trump and Tossa. 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:51.760 Gabbert being two more prominent examples. And you know, the 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:53.480 US is at a cross roads in terms of its 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:57.360 foreign policy approach and We've had the forty fifty years 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:00.200 of policing the world and beating the world, inviting the 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.880 world in through immigration, and now we're breaking away from 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.240 that clearly with Trump and his team about non interventionalism. 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.720 And one reason is just economic that we're stretched too 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.560 thin and it's really none of our business to be 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.120 doing that when there's so many domestic problems. The other 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.240 reason is what you're seeing here, that we live in 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.720 very complicated world, and often the choice between leaders in 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:21.800 these hot spots is not between good and evil, but 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.520 it's between bad and worse. And we go in removing 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.200 the quote bad guy, and often you have no idea 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:28.960 who's on the other side, or what's going to happen, 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.440 and which types of actors are going to fill that void, 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.640 and then you just create a bigger mess, which further 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.880 supports the argument of the other side that wants a 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.160 US to keep policing and invading, and then that downward 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:41.600 spiral continues. I don't know what Trump administration is going 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.200 to do here because they inherited this mess, but it 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.920 looks like they are going to stick to less interventionalism. 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:47.640 Not more. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:51.760 Well, there's some foreign policy experts, some former leaders who 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.360 look like absolute fools in the moment, the ones who 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.480 celebrated what happened in Syria just a few weeks ago, 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:01.640 as if it was the dawn of some uiege of democracy, 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:05.880 not looking at who was actually seizing power. And you 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.240 mentioned Tulsa Gabbert. It was only a couple of months 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.600 ago that she warned about what could occur. 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.360 No tears for the fall of the Assad regime. But 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.520 today we have an Islamist extremist who is now in 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.760 charge of Syria, as I said, who danced on the 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.600 streets to celebrate the nine to eleven attack. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.240 Who ruled over it, lived with. 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:31.920 An Islamist extremist governance, and who has already begun to 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:36.560 persecute and kill and arrest religious minorities like Christians in Syria. 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.160 I understood why that should be acceptable to anyone is 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:43.440 beyond me. And Donald Trump was warning about this some 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:44.640 ten years ago. 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.360 So I've watched Assad, and I've watched a little bit 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:48.240 on the other side. 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.120 The problem is the other side of the side. We 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:51.160 have no idea who they are. 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.480 They probably are Racis, I'm saying, are we beent off 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.000 with a sad We have no idea who these people are. 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.400 We give them weapons, we give them ammunition, we give 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.440 them everything. Erin, we have no idea who I mean. 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.000 Maybe it's worse than a side. 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.360 So what are we doing? Why are we involved? 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.520 We have to get rid of ices very importantly. But 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.120 I look at Aside, and Aside to me looks better 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:13.280 than the other side. 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:14.800 And you know, this has happened before. 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.600 We back a certain side and that side turns out to. 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.000 Be a total catastrophe. 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:22.240 Russia likes Aside seemingly a lot. 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.840 Kosher. I think it was Tony Abbott who said it's 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.720 baddies versus baddies. We're talking about Syria, and sadly, no, 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.560 it might seem simplistic, but it's the reality of what's 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.280 happening there, and the West just keeps making the same 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:38.240 mistake over and over again. Now, meanwhile, in Romania, the 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:43.080 leading candidate there, Kulin Djesku, has been banned from running 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:47.520 in the upcoming presidential election in May. Kosher, this is 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:52.400 a NATO nation, This is supposed to be a democratic nation. 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:56.240 But this candidate won the first round that was deemed 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.320 illegitimates for some reason, they were claiming there was Russian 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:04.359 interference so now banned from running the front runner. 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.680 This is pretty stunning development. And when you do things 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:11.000 like that, you null an election that was conducted freely 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.479 and then you ban the candidate from running again. It 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.640 is not a consequence free action that they're taking over here, 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.240 because what they're doing is creating a pressure quiker environment 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.720 in the nation where at least a certain faction of 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.159 the citizenry is having a lid put on their demands 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:28.480 and there is no venue for them to address their grievances. 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:30.320 That is not going to end well. It never does 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:32.399 when you look throughout the span of history and you 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.359 can see protests right now happening in Romania, people taking 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.719 to the streets, so you know, buckle up from more 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.200 unrest and hopefully, you know, worse things could happen. 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:40.960 We hope not. 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.480 It also very much validates Jade Vance and the comments 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.479 he's been making in Munich and other venues recently about 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:51.639 why are we underwriting so called democracies in Europe? And 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.240 this phrase, you know, let's not be a threat to democracy, 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.840 let's defend democracy has become a chant almost and the 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.399 louder they chanted it's because these things are happening in 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:03.520 these European countries and others, and the whole world can see. 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:07.479 It absolutely, and I think the Trump administration is watching 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.600 on very closely here now, the Democrats are coming out 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:15.840 in support of a pro Palestinian activist blamed for some 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:20.240 of the violent protests at Columbia University. The Trumpet administration 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.520 wants to deport this character, but the Democrats are fighting 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.240 for him to stay in the US. And earlier today 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:32.480 a federal judge did temporarily block Mumwood Khalil's deportation and 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.879 it's been arrested over the weekend by immigration agents. Kosher 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:40.560 I just cannot believe the Democrats would come out and 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:45.560 try to protect this guy from deportation. I mean, how 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:53.639 crazy can you get? Just as far as electoral popularity 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.159 you are in politics, you do want to appeal to 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.239 the American people, and we know where they stand on 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:03.480 this to try to stop the deportation of someone who's 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.240 coming to the country. He's causing trouble. We've seen the 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:10.679 violent protests at Columbia University. What's the thinking behind this 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:11.560 with the Democrats? 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.520 So politically it's not a good move, and you know 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:16.360 there are all these memes all over the internet where 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.520 they wouldn't stand for the boy who was fighting cancer 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:23.159 for fifteen year old doing chand or for Lake and 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.240 Riley's parents or family members and others, and then over 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.760 here going to town on this. So politically, I think 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:30.080 it is a big problem because they're. 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:31.439 Out of step with what people want. 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:33.720 Where this issue gets a little bit interesting, and it's 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:36.400 actually one of the fewer Trump's bases splitting a little bit, 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.280 is what are the two forces at place? So one 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:44.520 is zero tolerance for illegal behavior by immigrants, certainly illegal immigrants, 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.960 but also legal immigrants like this person, and really using 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.280 the full weight of deportation power to deport them. The 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.000 other is free speech, which is a big value obviously 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:56.280 in the Trump base, And there are questions about legally 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:58.520 what did this person actually do and if it was 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.800 just limited to speech and so as vile and unhinged 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:05.040 as they may be, that is constitutionally protected right either us, 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:06.959 or did he do something more? Does he have some 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.240 actual ties where he was eating in a batting hamas 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.639 in which case he violated some terrorism laws and that 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:14.679 would be the thing. So I think the judge is 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:18.439 trying to adjudicate that this judge might have something to 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:21.240 stand on, unlike all the other unhinged judges who are 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.160 just rushing to challenge Trump's Article two powers. 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:25.280 But we shall see. 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:27.639 We probably don't know everything that the government has on 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:29.680 this person. And I think this story will continue to develop. 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:33.199 But that comparison between them taking a stand for this 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:38.320 character but not people who've been victims of their policies, 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.960 like in Riley's parents, I mean, it just speaks volumes 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:45.760 and kosher. The Democrats are in all sorts of troubled 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:51.400 political analysts. Van Jones summed up their current situation on CNN, 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:53.679 and he is from the left, but he is sane 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:54.639 enough to realize this. 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.960 Can we talk about Ukraine? 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:00.479 Look, man, we're screwed. 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:01.119 I mean, we don't know. 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:02.720 No Democrats don't know what to do. 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:04.280 This is a nightmare. 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:08.720 The Democratic Party is going through a massive set of 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:13.040 internal crises. You have a party that got trapped two ways. 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:19.960 One defending a broken status quo that nobody likes because 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:21.800 they thought that Donald Trump was going to make it worse. 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:23.960 But when you're defending a status quote, you're going to 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:27.680 lose and then offending most people in the country, calling 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:31.200