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Speaker 1: On sky Lives Ostrodia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Wider Paney Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the reader Paney Show coming

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Speaker 3: up tonight. Labor indulges in more disinformation online as the

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Speaker 3: party's social media campaign intensifies in the lead up to

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Speaker 3: the federal election. Patrick Carline will be here to discuss

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Speaker 3: that and much more. The new South Wales Minister for

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Speaker 3: Women flounders when asked about malebodies in women's sport. Stephanie

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Speaker 3: Bastian joins me later in the hour. Kosher Gator will

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Speaker 3: weigh in on whether Malcolm Turnbull's attention seeking antics will

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Speaker 3: cost Australia as we negotiate a tariff exemption with the US.

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Speaker 3: And Alex Stein will be here right after left he

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Speaker 3: is losing it Tonight starring the word salads specialist herself,

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 4: And I'm thinking about this about so I was.

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Speaker 3: Willing to give up whatever might be the tracking.

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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris's particular fondness for a notch of chief doritos.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but first, if this poll is right, the Tills

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Speaker 3: are in a world of trouble. Polling from fresh Water

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Speaker 3: Strategy has indicated that four of the six Climate two

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Speaker 3: hundred backed MPs are likely to lose their seats at

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Speaker 3: the next election amid a collapse in support for Labour

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Speaker 3: and the Greens, whose preferences the Tills rely on. In

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Speaker 3: curtain Keong, Goldstein and mckella, the Liberals are back on

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Speaker 3: top with an average two party preferred vote of fifty

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Speaker 3: one to forty nine against the Tills, and if this

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Speaker 3: is replicated during the election, the Coalition would boot out

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Speaker 3: Kate Cheney, Nique Ryan z O'Daniel and Sophie Scamps from Parliament,

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Speaker 3: leaving just Allegra Spender and Zali Steggle to represent the Tills.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this is News Corps

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Speaker 3: senior writer Patrick Carly and Patrick is this the end

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Speaker 3: of the Tills ex experiment?

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Speaker 5: It's an interesting poll, isn't it, Because it basically it

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Speaker 5: goes to the fact that in twenty twenty two we

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Speaker 5: were talking about much different things to now. Cost of

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Speaker 5: living wasn't the main issue. We weren't talking about economic management.

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Speaker 5: We're talking more about climate change. And there was also

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Speaker 5: this visceral sort of dislike for Scott Morrison in the electorate.

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Speaker 5: So the TiAl sort of cashed in on a moment

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Speaker 5: in time, if you like, and it was very successful.

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Speaker 5: They got six seats. The world has changed dramatically since then.

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Speaker 5: The Labor and the Green vote has dropped the primary vote,

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Speaker 5: and you can see, you can actually see how this

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Speaker 5: might actually play out, where the tials, even though their

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Speaker 5: voters stayed much you're saying the preferences will work against them.

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Speaker 5: They could be wiped out effectively. Companies election, and I.

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Speaker 3: Think people have discovered that they're not conservative alternatives, which

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Speaker 3: is how they sold themselves. It was deeply dishonest, which

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Speaker 3: is pretty ironic given that one of the other big

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Speaker 3: issues the last election was integrity. Remember it was all

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Speaker 3: about integrity and climate, and they were presenting themselves as

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Speaker 3: an alternative for liberal voters. But anyone who looked at

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Speaker 3: who they were and what their policies were, they pretty

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Speaker 3: much fit into the Greens. They're certainly in my mind,

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Speaker 3: left of the Labor Party. And I think Simon Holmes,

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Speaker 3: the court has done a beautiful job for the Liberals

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Speaker 3: getting rid of all those wets, all those smaller liberals

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Speaker 3: they were compromising the party. So I think in the

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Speaker 3: long run it's a big win for conservatives all around.

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Speaker 3: Now let's have a look at how Labour's social media

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Speaker 3: campaign is going. Housing Minister Cla O'Neill and a bunch

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Speaker 3: of her colleagues have served up this.

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Speaker 6: I will not be lectured about sexism and misogyny by

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Speaker 6: this man.

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Speaker 3: I will not and the government not be.

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Speaker 6: Lectured about saying and misogyny.

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Speaker 3: By this man. Not now, not ever.

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Speaker 6: The leader of the Opposition says that people who hold sexes.

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Speaker 7: Views and are.

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Speaker 6: Not appropriate for high office. Well, I hope the Leader

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Speaker 6: the Opposition has got a piece of paper and he

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Speaker 6: is writing out his insignation because he wants to know

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Speaker 6: what misogyny looks like in Australia.

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Speaker 3: And he doesn't need emotion. You know how this rerecumcenter is.

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Speaker 3: He needs a mir Dear me, you think Tanya Plima

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Speaker 3: sec would know better, but there's a bunch of Labor ministers,

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Speaker 3: their MPs. That's the infamous Julia Gillard misogyny speech which

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Speaker 3: a man wrote for her. And listening to that now

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Speaker 3: and knowing the circumstances, and we knew the circumstances of

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Speaker 3: the time, but I think, how do you think that

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Speaker 3: speech is age? Listening to those ladies' lip sync? It

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Speaker 3: is it one that the left will be proud to

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Speaker 3: cringe to it.

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Speaker 2: Look, it was wrapped up in the politics of the day.

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Speaker 5: It was aimed squarely at Tony Abbott, who was opposition

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Speaker 5: leader at the time. It was in twenty twelve. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: obviously a long time ago. I'm not sure how relevant

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Speaker 5: how it's dated now. It was an important thing in

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Speaker 5: the moment, but actually running it out now apparently for

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Speaker 5: no strong reason.

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Speaker 3: I could only think it would be International Women's Day

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Speaker 3: that decided, of all the things that could promote that

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Speaker 3: was it. And what happened shortly after twenty twelve at

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Speaker 3: a federal election and they lost in an absolute landslide

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Speaker 3: to Tony Abbots. So maybe that would indicate to them

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Speaker 3: outside the media circles, the academic circles, the activist circles,

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Speaker 3: that speech did not resonate. That speech was seen for

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Speaker 3: what it was. It was just a diversion from the

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Speaker 3: woes of the Qaali Guillard and her government at the time.

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Speaker 5: And I think to try and weaponize it now as

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Speaker 5: a party political sort of instrument, if you like, it

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Speaker 5: really doesn't resonate at all. Back at that speech and

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Speaker 5: you can argue the toss wasn't this important or that important.

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Speaker 2: It was a big deal at the time, but it's

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Speaker 2: ancient history now.

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Speaker 5: It has no sort of relevance to what's going on

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Speaker 5: in society today, certainly on a details level.

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Speaker 2: It just it doesn't work at all. I don't think now.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like it happened a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: It does. But what a Labor also gone back to

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Speaker 3: is their medi Scare campaign, and it was successful for

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Speaker 3: them last time. It certainly had an impact, and they're

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Speaker 3: doing it again. They're promoting what is essentially disinformation, misinformation

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Speaker 3: across social media. Let's have a look at their ad.

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Speaker 2: We're very clear about this.

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Speaker 8: Medicare is dead. They can't be for free. We have

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Speaker 8: to pay for a world class medical system. We are

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Speaker 8: determined to send a price signal so that we can

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Speaker 8: move away from the view that everything can be for

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Speaker 8: free in health in this country because it can't be.

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Speaker 3: Sounds pretty damning. You got Peter Dutton. They're saying Medicare

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Speaker 3: is dead, but what he actually say, Let's have a

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Speaker 3: look at the full clip.

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Speaker 8: So the government is determined to make sure that Medicare

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Speaker 8: is sustainable. We are determined to send a price signal

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Speaker 8: so that we can move away from the view that

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Speaker 8: everything can be for free in health in this country

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Speaker 8: because it can't be.

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Speaker 2: We're very clear about this.

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Speaker 8: Medicare is dead if we can't make it sustainable today.

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Speaker 8: But we are absolutely determined to make Medicare sustainable so

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Speaker 8: the Labor Party can pretend to the Australian public that

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Speaker 8: things are for free. They can't be for free. We

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Speaker 8: have to pay for a world class medical system. We

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Speaker 8: will negotiate with the Senators. We are pragmatic about the

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Speaker 8: approaches that might be available to us, but we will

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Speaker 8: make Medicare sustainable.

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Speaker 3: That was just straight out just disinformation. There's no other

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Speaker 3: word for it. And it's pretty rich for a party

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Speaker 3: that bleeds endlessly about disinformation, that wants to suppress our

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Speaker 3: free speech, supposedly to protect us from disinformed, and they

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Speaker 3: pump that out. And that's a paid Facebook ad, So

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Speaker 3: it's not only appearing on TikTok and LinkedIn a whole

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Speaker 3: bunch of other sites, but it's actually paid and promoted

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Speaker 3: on Facebook. So I'm sure hundreds of thousands of people

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Speaker 3: have probably seen it by now.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely look they've cheated, they've misrepresented what he was trying

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Speaker 5: to say, and they've completely taken it out of context.

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Speaker 5: That wasn't what he was trying to say at all.

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Speaker 5: I think we're going to say more and more of this,

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Speaker 5: especially in this social media age. I mean, you can

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Speaker 5: get away with things that you can't in the mainstream press.

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Speaker 5: You can sort of make claims that can get some

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Speaker 5: purchase if you like, with the electorate in ways that

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Speaker 5: the mainstream press you can't do. And I'm sure we

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Speaker 5: will see more and more of this where they're just

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Speaker 5: trying it on and hoping that it actually lands to

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Speaker 5: an extent before it gets removed or called out or whatever.

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Speaker 5: And look, it's not good for politics, and it's not

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Speaker 5: good for debate because it is cheating.

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Speaker 3: Well it is. It's just so deeply dishonest, and you know,

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Speaker 3: Labour parties should be better than that. Now, let's go

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Speaker 3: to a Quantus chair John Mullen, who's warned that companies

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Speaker 3: should steer clear of involving themselves in social causes. Quantus

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Speaker 3: has of course been guilty of doing that for many,

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Speaker 3: many years, and Patrick they still inflict those incessant acknowledge

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Speaker 3: amount of country announcements every time one of their planes

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Speaker 3: lands domestically. I know there's plenty of staff who resent

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Speaker 3: having to do it, but they're obliged to. Perhaps I

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Speaker 3: don't know that the chair could have a word to

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Speaker 3: his own CEO the board and actually take his own advice.

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Speaker 2: Look what John Mullen had to say.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's a breath of fresh air after so

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Speaker 5: many years of having these big companies trying to sort

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Speaker 5: of read the breeze and sort of go on a

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Speaker 5: social issue that a lot of people sort of silently

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Speaker 5: I don't agree with that. John Mullen makes a good point.

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Speaker 5: He talks about the regions that don't like big city

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Speaker 5: and he use the word lecturing. These big companies can't

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Speaker 5: lecture Australians. We don't want to be lectured. We don't

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Speaker 5: want to be told what to think. I think this

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Speaker 5: is so welcome to hear a CEO actually saying this

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Speaker 5: after so many years of actually being force fared this

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Speaker 5: big company nonsense, which is about you know, it's about

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Speaker 5: sort of getting people on side. It's about sort of

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Speaker 5: being on the right side of history. What mister Mullen

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Speaker 5: used the term just do the knitting and in this

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Speaker 5: case just fly planes.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what qunscious thinks about this or that

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Speaker 2: I have no interest for them.

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Speaker 3: That is, I think a very widely held opinion. Whatever

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Speaker 3: side of politics you're from, you want your corporates to

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Speaker 3: stick to their knitting, do what they're supposed to do,

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Speaker 3: and do it well, take care of their staff, take

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Speaker 3: care of their customers, and leave the politics to the politicians.

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Speaker 3: Patrick Carline, thank you so much for your time tonight.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Sky News contributor Kosher Gaeta Kosher.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with Malcolm Turnbull, the feud between Malcolm Turnbull

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Speaker 3: and US President Donald Trump. Now the prime minister. The

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Speaker 3: former prime minister did start this war of words with

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Speaker 3: some ill advised attention seeking. He was on US TV

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Speaker 3: just doing what he does, not sure what he was

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Speaker 3: trying to achieve there, but in response, President Trump posted

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Speaker 3: this on truth Social saying, Malcolm Turnbull, the former Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister of Australia, who was always leading that wonderful country

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Speaker 3: from behind, never understood what was going on in China

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Speaker 3: nor did he have the capacity to do so? I

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Speaker 3: always thought he was a week an ineffective leader, and

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Speaker 3: obviously Australians agreed with me, Yes we did. And Turnbull

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Speaker 3: then went on the ABC. Of course he did, and

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Speaker 3: he had this to say.

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Speaker 9: Are we just going to become just a conger line

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Speaker 9: of sycophants creeping through the White House?

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Speaker 3: Oh dear, you can just know he rehearsed those lines

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Speaker 3: Kosher. I think it was Tony Abbott who said it's

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Speaker 10: It also very much validates Jade Vance and the comments

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Speaker 10: So politically it's not a good move, and you know

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Speaker 3: But we shall see.

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Speaker 10: We probably don't know everything that the government has on

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Speaker 3: But that comparison between them taking a stand for this

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Speaker 13: Can we talk about Ukraine?

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Speaker 1: Look, man, we're screwed.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know.

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Speaker 13: No Democrats don't know what to do.

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Speaker 13: The Democratic Party is going through a massive set of

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Speaker 3: Lefty's losing it. You're watching the Raida Panty Show, and

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Speaker 4: Of Karmala Harris's particular fondness for nacho cheese Doritos for

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Speaker 4: the sake of getting a big bag of Dorito's as

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Speaker 4: I watched the oscars.

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Speaker 3: That is just my numbing. I think I lost twenty

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Speaker 3: to thirty IQ points just just listening to that. Now,

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Speaker 3: let's hear from aging British pop star Bob Geldoff. He

443
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Speaker 3: goes on an unhinged trump rant, spelling all sorts of

444
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Speaker 3: lies and hyperbole and nonsense about Donald Trump and Elon

445
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Speaker 3: Musk literally taking food from the mouth of starving children.

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Speaker 3: He says, he really is too old to be this thick.

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Speaker 15: Creeps like Trump and Musk have sucked out all of

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Speaker 15: that generosity out of the air. You know, the most

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Speaker 15: powerful man on the planet, the richest man in the world,

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Speaker 15: have decided to take away any of the life support

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Speaker 15: systems of the most fun of the poorest children on

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Speaker 15: the planet, quite literally, take the last food from their mouth,

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Speaker 15: quite literally, take the bandages of the gang raped woman

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Speaker 15: quite literally, stop aids five minute eights sufferers getting their

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Speaker 15: things so they will die in a matter of weeks.

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Speaker 2: This is the usaid. This is Trump and Musk and

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Speaker 2: all those other creeps.

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Speaker 3: Now, if you're ever in any doubt about just how

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Speaker 3: intellectually baron, how exceptionally stupid the view co hosts are,

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Speaker 3: then watch this performance from Woopee Goldberg re named Karen Johnson,

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Speaker 3: as she explains to transactivist still in Mulvainy, she doesn't

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Speaker 3: understand why anyone could have any issue with men in

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Speaker 3: women's sports.

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Speaker 16: I wanted to ask you because there's been all of

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Speaker 16: this debate about whether transgender athletes should be able to compete,

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Speaker 16: and last week California Governor Gavin Newsom said that he

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Speaker 16: thinks that trans athletes competing in girls and women's sports

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Speaker 16: was deeply unfair.

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Speaker 3: Oh, she wasn't done yet. Then she explains that men

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Speaker 3: don't really have a physical advantage when competing in women's

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Speaker 3: sporting competitions.

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Speaker 16: When you come in and you say, oh, you know

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Speaker 16: these men, these are men, you know, competing competing against women,

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Speaker 16: you're assuming that the women are weak and.

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Speaker 3: Just can't do anything.

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Speaker 11: Have you seen female athletes?

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Speaker 3: They know what they're doing.

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Speaker 16: So I'm not sure what's going on or why this.

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Speaker 3: Is an issue. I think even Dylan Mulvaaney was wondering

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Speaker 3: what the hell she was talking about there. If you

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Speaker 3: don't know what's going on, woopee, you don't know why

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Speaker 3: this is an issue. Have you been hiding in a

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Speaker 3: cave for the past decade when this issue has been

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Speaker 3: discussed at length? You think just because female athletes are

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Speaker 3: stronger and faster than the average female, that they have

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Speaker 3: no issue competing with male bodies. Are you crazy? You

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Speaker 3: do realize that female gold medalists at the Olympics would

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Speaker 3: be beaten easily by the top high school track athletes.

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Speaker 3: Easily by the top high school male track athletes. I

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Speaker 3: should add, let's not forget Australia's a national soccer team.

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Speaker 3: The Matilda's lost seven nil to a bunch of high

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Speaker 3: school boys from Newcastle, the under fifteen boys.

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Speaker 17: That was.

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Speaker 3: As for Dylan mulvainy, I'm starting to feel a little

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Speaker 3: bit sorry for him, even though he's trying to inject

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Speaker 3: himself into International Women's Day. This isn't what real women do.

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Speaker 3: It's a good time. God, this is best in my life?

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Speaker 2: Have you international?

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Speaker 18: Good?

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Speaker 7: Be'st the International Women's.

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Speaker 19: Day everb I got to do my hormone injection, which

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Speaker 19: we love the hormones, but we do not like the.

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Speaker 3: Nausea that accompanies the hormones.

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Speaker 11: And I have a long drive to the airport, so

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Speaker 11: wish you luck.

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Speaker 4: That's going to be rough.

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Speaker 3: Now the leftist media, activist and propagandas who championed Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden for years are finally telling the truth about what

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Speaker 3: sort of man he really is. Listen here as Chuck

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Speaker 3: Todd tells us what he really thinks.

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Speaker 1: And when I realized that not one, not two, but

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Speaker 1: three Biden children, and I count Bo's widow. We're all

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Speaker 1: dealing with drug problems. In twenty eighteen and Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: and Joe Biden said, now's a perfect time to run

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Speaker 1: for president because who cares about our family. I have

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Speaker 1: to tell you something about Joe Biden. There's this mythology

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Speaker 1: about Joe Biden that the man cared so much, told

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Speaker 1: that he was this incredible family man, and instead what

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Speaker 1: he really was was a craven political animal that never

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Speaker 1: it was desperate. The man considered or ran for president

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Speaker 1: every four years he was eligible. You know why he

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Speaker 1: didn't run in seventy six. He wasn't thirty five. Yet,

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Speaker 1: that's totally reason.

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Speaker 3: I don't recall hearing that frankness, that honesty during Chuck

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Speaker 3: Todd's many many years at NBC. But he wasn't just

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Speaker 3: Chuck Todd. Then Stage four teds sufferer Steve Schmidt joined in,

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Speaker 3: saying that he doesn't even trust Joe Biden's children to babysit.

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Speaker 19: What I said to the group that made them gasp,

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Speaker 19: I said, I have five kids, and if I had

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Speaker 19: to leave twelve year old alone, how to leave the

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Speaker 19: kids with someone, and my choices are Hunter Biden for

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Speaker 19: Ashley Biden or Don Junior and Eric and Laura's Trump

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Speaker 19: Like I'm dropping the kids off at Don and Eric

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Speaker 19: in Laura's house.

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Speaker 3: Wow, if only these two were forthcoming with this sort

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Speaker 3: of information when it actually mattered. Joining me now is

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Speaker 3: comedian and host of Prime Time with Alex Stein on

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Speaker 3: Blaze TV. Alex. The cowardice of these leftist activists, some

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Speaker 3: of the masquerading as journalists, is astounding. What's even the

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Speaker 3: point of saying all this?

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Speaker 20: Now, Well, if you look at Chuck Todd, I believe

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Speaker 20: he worked at NBC for eighteen years, and I think

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Speaker 20: that he was let go in January because you know,

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Speaker 20: obviously he was trying to keep the mainstream narrative that

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Speaker 20: Joe Biden was competent for office, when in reality, everybody

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Speaker 20: knew that Hunter Biden was a drug addict. Everybody knew

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Speaker 20: that Joe Biden was basically a deadbeat dad for lack

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Speaker 20: of a better word, and they had to lie to

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Speaker 20: try to paint a picture that he was a competent president.

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Speaker 20: And now Chuck Todd is realizing, listen, I lied. My

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Speaker 20: integrity is totally gone. So he's doing this to save face,

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Speaker 20: and that's why he's all of a sudden changes tune.

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Speaker 20: So I didn't blame the first time, and really, I

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Speaker 20: honestly don't trust what he's saying now either.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because it wasn't just that Joe Biden was competent,

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Speaker 3: that was the only lie they were telling. They were

557
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Speaker 3: also telling us he was this warm, loving father and

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Speaker 3: grandfather who let's not forget that he doesn't even acknowledge

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Speaker 3: one of his own grandchildren, little girl down in Arkansas.

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Speaker 3: Now to the Democrats, new darling, she's the new AOC.

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Speaker 3: So you might have a crush on her because I

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Speaker 3: know you like AOC, Alex And she's been saying plenty

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Speaker 3: about immigration, illegal immigration. She doesn't even think it's illegal.

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Speaker 6: It is not a criminal violation to enter the country illegally.

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Speaker 3: It's not a criminal, it's crime.

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Speaker 13: It's not a crime.

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Speaker 3: It's Jasmine Crockett. She's pining herself quite a profile, and

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Speaker 3: she's dead wrong because it is a crime. You think

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Speaker 3: a congressman would know that here is borders, Tom Homan,

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Speaker 3: is it.

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Speaker 5: A crime or a misdemeanor to enter the country illegally?

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Speaker 18: It's a crime to under country illegally and in the

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Speaker 18: title United States called thirteen twenty five. And it's really

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Speaker 18: really pathetic that any member of Congress don't understand what

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Speaker 18: the law says. They wrote, the law they enacted, the

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Speaker 18: law are signed by president is a criminal violation in

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Speaker 18: the country illegally, if you've ventured a big prior, it's

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Speaker 18: a felony.

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Speaker 3: Alex. The Democrats continue to rail against the deportation policy.

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Speaker 3: It's hardly a winning strategy, no way read.

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Speaker 20: It's definitely not a winning strategy. And you know, Jasmine

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Speaker 20: Crockett is actually the representative of the district that I

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Speaker 20: have in office in so it's really sad that you

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Speaker 20: even got elected. It's obviously it's in South Dallas. It's

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Speaker 20: a predominantly African American lower income area. Not realizing that

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Speaker 20: just coming into the country illegally is a crime. That

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Speaker 20: shows you that you don't have to pass an IQ

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Speaker 20: test to become a congresswoman. You can just win based

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Speaker 20: on either the color of your skin or because of

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Speaker 20: the that you act. And you know, you win an

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Speaker 20: election in a place where the voters are going to

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Speaker 20: be favorable to you, But it does not mean that

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Speaker 20: she's smart and I think that the more she talks,

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Speaker 20: the more we realize, you know, how dumb Jasmincrorackett really is.

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Speaker 20: And I hate to call her that, but I think

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Speaker 20: it's just obvious with her statements saying that when a

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Speaker 20: person comes into our country illegally, they're not committing a crime.

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Speaker 20: It's just a very basic simple concept. You come in

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Speaker 20: here illegally, that's a crime. You're a criminal. I don't

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Speaker 20: know why this is so complicated and hard for them

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Speaker 20: to understand.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if she's dumb or not, but she

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Speaker 3: may have watched AOC say plenty of dumb stuff and

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Speaker 3: see her profile rise and and her influence within the

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Speaker 3: party increase. So maybe she just wants to replicate that.

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Speaker 3: We'll see now the Left cannot help themselves, Alex. There

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Speaker 3: appears to be no self control, no sense of decorum.

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Speaker 3: What chare is Activists harass Vice President jd Vance as

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Speaker 3: he walks with his three year old daughter near their

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Speaker 3: home in Ohio. He very graciously offers them a few

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Speaker 3: minutes of his time to talk about what's troubling them,

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Speaker 3: if they will leave him and his daughter alone.

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Speaker 17: Dam And, I told you, I talked to you to

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Speaker 17: have people run around in yell and they talk to you.

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Speaker 20: And I had said, if I talked to him, you.

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Speaker 11: Know, it's three old god alone, and you see me accident.

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Speaker 6: So I'd like you guys respect.

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Speaker 3: The Vice President tweeted, saying that it was a mostly

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Speaker 3: respectful conversation. But if you're chasing a three year old

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Speaker 3: as part of your political protest, you're a shit person.

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Speaker 3: This is not the way Alex to convince politicians, and

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's the way to convince the general

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Speaker 3: public about the righteous righteousness of your cause if you

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Speaker 3: do that, because no one wants to see a three

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Speaker 3: year old be distressed by this sort of behavior.

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Speaker 20: Oh exactly, you're exactly corrected. And you know there's a

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Speaker 20: saying when you give him a mouse of cookie, you

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Speaker 20: got to give him milk.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: JD.

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Speaker 20: Vanswers more than gracious to even give them a moment

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Speaker 20: to speak and have a conversation with him. And of

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Speaker 20: course they can't just have the conversation and be over.

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Speaker 20: They have to start attacking him. They have to make

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Speaker 20: the three year old feel uncomfortable because some of these people,

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Speaker 20: they're incapable of actually having a civil conversation, and just

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Speaker 20: the fact that the sitting vice president is willing, you know,

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Speaker 20: to sit there and talk to You would think, even

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Speaker 20: if you disagree with him ideologically, you would show him

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Speaker 20: enough respect considering the office that he's holding, and then

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Speaker 20: forget about it. You can be disrespectful to the vice president,

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Speaker 20: but to his three year old daughter. It just shows

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Speaker 20: that these people have no empathy whatsoever other than you know,

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Speaker 20: what they personally feel. They care about feelings, just their feelings,

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Speaker 20: not that of a three year old or the vice

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Speaker 20: president who's being gracious and actually having a conversation. I

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Speaker 20: don't know any other politicians on the left that if

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Speaker 20: you actually talk to him, and I've tried to read it,

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Speaker 20: you know that I try to talk to these politicians

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Speaker 20: outside of you know, Congress and stuff, they don't ever

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Speaker 20: want to have conversation, and Jady Vance did. So that

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Speaker 20: shows you that he is a guy that does have

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Speaker 20: integrity and that is actually willing to speak to his

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Speaker 20: constituents and try to help and represent them the best

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Speaker 20: way that he can.

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Speaker 3: Now you've chased down plenty of politicians from both sides.

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Speaker 3: I've seen you go after Dan Crenshaw, Republican from Texas,

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Speaker 3: and that's been quite colorful at times. But if there

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Speaker 3: was a child present, would you still pursue them with

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Speaker 3: a camera. I mean, I just think if there's a

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Speaker 3: little child that age, a toddler, you just walk away.

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Speaker 3: It's just not the time.

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Speaker 20: You're absolutely right, And in no instance have I ever

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Speaker 20: confronted a politician while they were with their daughter or child.

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Speaker 20: I mean, it's unfair to the kid, and you're gonna

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Speaker 20: make them feel uncomfortable. So, like I said, Jadi Vance

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Speaker 20: was more than gracious enough to even speak with him.

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Speaker 20: But these people are just so insane that they can't

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Speaker 20: even rational lies. How big of a deal it is

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Speaker 20: that they're speaking to the sitting based president and show

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Speaker 20: him respect and his three year old daughters from.

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Speaker 3: Respect now staying in your home state of Texas or

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Speaker 3: drag performances have been banned from eleven campuses of Texas

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Speaker 3: A and M University. This is quite a momentous announcement

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Speaker 3: because though you would think a college like this in

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Speaker 3: Texas would be fairly conservative, these college campuses, almost all

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Speaker 3: of them are not. They're just hotbeds of left wing activism.

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Speaker 3: So to have drag performances effectively banned from college campuses.

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Speaker 3: What are your feelings about this, Alex.

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Speaker 20: Well, I'm really happy, and of course, you know, I

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Speaker 20: believe in the First Amendment. I believe in the freedom

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Speaker 20: of speech. But when it comes down to a Texas

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Speaker 20: public school, which Texas A and m is, we don't

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Speaker 20: need our school system trying to spread GBTQ ideology to

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Speaker 20: young people on campus. It's just unnecessary for the States

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Speaker 20: to sponsor that. And Donald Trump spoke out against it,

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Speaker 20: you know, the Attorney General Kim Paxson spoke out against it.

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Speaker 20: So if these people are saying we don't want this

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Speaker 20: on our state public schools, thank goodness that finally somebody's

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Speaker 20: putting their foot down and stopping it. Because when it

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Speaker 20: comes to all the discussing books that are in public

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Speaker 20: libraries that parents are constantly fighting against, you know, in college,

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Speaker 20: these are adults. This is still a public school. Our

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Speaker 20: public funds are going to this, and really I don't

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Speaker 20: want my public funds going to drag eyland so more

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Speaker 20: kids can get indoctrinated into this, you know, trans ideology.

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Speaker 3: Well, we say it in Australia from very young from

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Speaker 3: sometimes preschool all the way through the university. This sort

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Speaker 3: of left wing activism that is evident in the curriculum,

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Speaker 3: it's on the campus. It's just shoved down the kids'

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Speaker 3: threats from a young age through to their pros graduate

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Speaker 3: degrees if they go that far. How much of a

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Speaker 3: change has there been under the Trump administration because he's

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Speaker 3: made it clear that funding decisions are going to be

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Speaker 3: attached to these policies, and a lot of the universities

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Speaker 3: have resisted, but others like Texas, A and M are

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Speaker 3: changing their ways.

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Speaker 20: Well, Rita, as you just showed earlier, it's making monumental

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Speaker 20: change because you have the governor of California, Gavin Newsom,

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Speaker 20: who's getting railroaded, and a lot of people like Whoopy

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Speaker 20: Goldberger complaining because he said that it's unfair for biological

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Speaker 20: women to have to compete against transgender men, which is

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Speaker 20: not a crazy concept, but according to Whoopy Goldberg, she

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Speaker 20: just can't wrap her head around the fact that men

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Speaker 20: are bigger and stronger on average and would have a

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Speaker 20: physical advantage in a physical sport. So listen, this issue

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Speaker 20: is huge. Donald Trump is waking up people like Gavin

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Speaker 20: Newsom where they're having to have intellectually honest conversations with

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Speaker 20: people like Charlie Kirk, and it's changing the narrative. And

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Speaker 20: I know that you're not anti trans I'm not anti transit,

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Speaker 20: staying trans people of this, but there needs to be

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Speaker 20: a system where women can compete fairly against other women,

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Speaker 20: and we don't need young kids being indoctrinated into what

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Speaker 20: I call a transcort. So I think that the tide

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Speaker 20: is shifting and we're heading in the right direction, but

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Speaker 20: you know, we still have a far away to go.

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Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 3: This next story, Alex, reminded me of you instantly, because

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Speaker 3: I think this is the sort of shenanigans you would

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Speaker 3: have pulled as a youngster. Have a look at this video.

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Speaker 3: A child called the cops on his own mum, asking

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Speaker 3: for her to be locked up because she ate all

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Speaker 3: the ice cream. Watch this future, Alex Stein, I, oh,

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Speaker 3: it's the police. They came for real. Yeah, we have

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Speaker 3: to just come back and make sure everything's okay. What

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Speaker 3: to do? Did you call the police?

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Speaker 19: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 10: Kill?

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Speaker 20: Why do you want mommy to go to jail?

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Speaker 3: She hate you? Or is it because you didn't get

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Speaker 3: ice yet?

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Speaker 7: I think.

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Speaker 20: So is their way? You're upset?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I sorry to yell at them. So

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Speaker 3: not calling nine one one unless it's a real emergency. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Oh dear, he needs a spanking, that boy, if you

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Speaker 3: believe in that sort of thing, Alex, that four year

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Speaker 3: old from Wisconsin, he did get his ice cream. The

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Speaker 3: police officers came back with some ice cream for him.

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Speaker 3: Just a nice way to end our little segment.

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Speaker 20: No, it was great, thank you to those cops. But

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Speaker 20: you gave me PTSD.

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Speaker 3: You remember.

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Speaker 20: I remember when I learned what nine one one was.

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Speaker 20: I called it and they came to my house and

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Speaker 20: read to talk about a spanking. I still have bruises

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Speaker 20: from that spanking.

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Speaker 3: And you would have deserved that. Alex Stein, thank you

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Speaker 3: so much for your time tonight.

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Speaker 20: Thank you reader. Always a pleasure.

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Speaker 3: Still to come. The new South Wales Minister for Women

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Speaker 3: flounders when asked about male bodies in women's sport. Stephanie

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Speaker 3: Bastian has the detaiss welcome back joining me now. Is

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Speaker 3: the head of advocacy at Women's Forum Australia. Stephanie Bastian Stephanie.

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Speaker 3: Conservative influencer Charlie Kirk had an interesting conversation with the

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Speaker 3: Democrat governor of California Gavin Newsom, and the man who

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Speaker 3: leads one of the most left wing states, shocked many

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Speaker 3: by admitting that trans inclusion in sport, well, that's a

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Speaker 3: nice way of putting it. Having male bodies in women's

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Speaker 3: sport is an issue of fairness and it's a major

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Speaker 3: contradiction of what he's done as governor. Let's have a listen.

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Speaker 7: It's like you right now should come out and be like,

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Speaker 7: you know what, the young man who's about to win

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Speaker 7: the state championship in the long jump in female sports,

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Speaker 7: that shouldn't happen. You as the governor should step out

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Speaker 7: and say no, no, And I appreciate and like, would

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Speaker 7: you do something like that? Would you say no men

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Speaker 7: in female sports?

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Speaker 17: Why?

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Speaker 9: I think it's an issue of fairness. I completely agree

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Speaker 9: with you on that. So that's easy to call out

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Speaker 9: the unfairness of that. There's also a humility and grace.

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Speaker 9: You know that these poor people are more likely to

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Speaker 9: commit suicide, have anxiety and depression, and the way that

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Speaker 9: people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that

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Speaker 9: I have a hard time with as well. So both

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Speaker 9: things I can hold in my hand. How can we

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Speaker 9: address this issue with the kind of decency that I think,

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Speaker 9: you know, it's inherent in you, but not always expressed.

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Speaker 3: So Stephanie talks about fairness there, but then straight away

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Speaker 3: he goes into the guilt tactics, talking about humility and

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Speaker 3: grace and punching down, and it's the usual tactics we

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Speaker 3: hear from the left to try to guilt women into

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Speaker 3: thinking that if they take a stand for their own rights,

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Speaker 3: that they somehow being harsh and not being compassionate towards

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Speaker 3: people who are struggling.

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Speaker 21: Absolutely, I think you've captured the issue really well. I

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Speaker 21: agree with him. People with struggling with gender dysphoyer deserve compassion, respect, support,

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Speaker 21: and all the rest of it. But the activists that

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Speaker 21: are demanding women except men and women's sports the risks

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Speaker 21: the injury, that is a totally different cattle of fish.

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Speaker 21: And I think that he is relying on that argument

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Speaker 21: to justify his inability his activity in addressing this issue.

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Speaker 21: I think it's good that he can see common sense,

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Speaker 21: but it's just not enough. Women need protection. We need

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Speaker 21: to separate the emotion from the reality, particularly for women,

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Speaker 21: and women deserve to have their sex based rights.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Now let's turn our attention to New South Wales,

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Speaker 3: where the Minister for Women, Jodie Harrison, struggle to answer

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Speaker 3: questions about women's safety in sport and the inclusion of

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Speaker 3: men identifying as women.

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Speaker 22: It's our view that sports themselves, that the sporting codes themselves,

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Speaker 22: our best, are in the best place to make decisions

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Speaker 22: about the inclusion of trans people in their codes and

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Speaker 22: whether they can play in men's teams or women's teams.

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Speaker 22: It's an issue if it's an issue of physical capability,

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Speaker 22: which is part of what the argument is about. I

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Speaker 22: think you respect you're not answering the question.

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Speaker 9: You know, how many women who are transitioning to men

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Speaker 9: actually participate in men's sport?

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Speaker 3: Very few?

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Speaker 22: I would consider that to be the case. Yes, I

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Speaker 22: don't have the figures for that.

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Speaker 3: She doesn't know. I mean, really, it just shocks me continuously,

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Speaker 3: people who are in these roles Minister for Women seem

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Speaker 3: to be completely ignorant about these sorts of issues that

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Speaker 3: have now been discussed and debated for years. How can

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Speaker 3: that be, Stephanie, It's just absurd.

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Speaker 21: But I don't think she's reflective Ofustralians and even perhaps

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Speaker 21: her base. I mean, we work with a range of

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Speaker 21: women across the political spectrum on this issue and the

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Speaker 21: ones that feel most politically homeless of the ones from

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Speaker 21: the left, and i'd go as far as the Green

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Speaker 21: as they've also had a rift in this issue. What's

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Speaker 21: happened is I think traditional left landing parties like the

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Speaker 21: Labor Party have traditionally championed or chouted to champion minority groups,

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Speaker 21: but in recent times that has turned to privileged minority groups.

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Speaker 21: Well funded lobby groups like the LGBTI movement, like the

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Speaker 21: sex industry, even abortion rights have come in and they'ves

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Speaker 21: with their power, have taken over a lot of these

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Speaker 21: political parties. And if you have a look at the

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Speaker 21: Labor Party for example, they don't have a conscience boat

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Speaker 21: on these issues. So if you want to get ahead

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Speaker 21: in the Labor Party, you have to subscribe to all

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Speaker 21: these issues. If you want an example of a dissenter,

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Speaker 21: you look at the way that Labor and p Rosie

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Speaker 21: Duffy was treated in the UK when she came out

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Speaker 21: in favor of women's.

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Speaker 3: Sex based rights.

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Speaker 21: They've traded their traditional base out for the elite to

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Speaker 21: the expensive women. But I think they will go down

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Speaker 21: in history as both traders to women and political cowards.

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Speaker 3: And the point there also is that, no, it's not

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Speaker 3: an issue of women identifying as men in men's sport.

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Speaker 3: Men don't ever complain about that because men have the

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Speaker 3: physical advantage, and there wouldn't really be any woman who

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Speaker 3: would be identifying as a man and who'd be taking

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Speaker 3: the place of men winning their scholarships, winning their places

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Speaker 3: in national teams. It is a one way traffic, and

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Speaker 3: you would think a Minister for Women would be across that. Finally, Steph,

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Speaker 3: the erasure of women, the very word women in the

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Speaker 3: medical profession continues. You pointed out that a study on

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Speaker 3: steel birds in the British Columbia Medical Journal refers to

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Speaker 3: mothers as birth parents and fathers as support people. In

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Speaker 3: the same paragraph, the study authors note that all the

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Speaker 3: birth parents identified as female, well that's good, and all

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Speaker 3: the support people identified as male. Why do we see

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Speaker 3: this sort of language in the medical profession. I mean

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Speaker 3: that just undermines their whole notion that they're above this,

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Speaker 3: that they're all about facts and the best possible care,

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Speaker 3: rather than getting hijacked by this sort of activism.

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Speaker 21: Absolutely, and I think it does enormous damage to the

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Speaker 21: trust in the medical system that they have been politically

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Speaker 21: hijacked in this way. It is absolutely disrespectful to women,

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Speaker 21: but overall it damages their integrity absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Stephanie, thank you so much for your time tonight, and

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Speaker 3: that's all the time and we have I'll see you

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Speaker 3: tomorrow night at eleven. Newsnight is up next