Speaker 1: Welcome to Errol three sixty Ruby League from every angle,
Speaker 1: brought to you by the new Ranger, Pluggin Hiver, joining
Speaker 1: me with the great Gordon Tallas. That's been the jeroz In,
Speaker 1: Buzz Rothfield and Brent red In. Mitchell Moses. We trust
Speaker 1: the vision, the execution simply spectacular, leading to the paramatter
Speaker 1: Eels best victory of the year up against the West Tigers.
Speaker 1: It was a crazy game of rugby league.
Speaker 2: So much to talk about. Gordy, where do we start?
Speaker 3: Whils all comes down to Moses first, came back, hasn't
Speaker 3: played a game all year, four four triast this and
Speaker 3: in the end when the game was on the line,
Speaker 3: you want your marquee close a step up and he
Speaker 3: did that.
Speaker 4: He did that.
Speaker 5: Mitchell Moses just sensational and I'm thinking, I'm watching that
Speaker 5: game and I'm thinking, if Dylan Brown is worth one
Speaker 5: point three one point four million a year as a
Speaker 5: football player, Mitchell Moses is dead set worth two million now.
Speaker 5: Mitchell Moses, they got beat by fifty last week. He
Speaker 5: was never going to come back and fix their defense
Speaker 5: which has been appalling all year. But the field position,
Speaker 5: the guidance, the leadership, it was just magnivous.
Speaker 2: From the get go.
Speaker 1: They were a different team with Mitchell Moses in the site.
Speaker 1: Actually we've got him. Now, let's get to Mitchell Moses
Speaker 1: who joins us and Mitch. I mean, first performance back,
Speaker 1: You've come up with a clutch play to seal the game.
Speaker 1: You've had one of your best well one of Paramatta's
Speaker 1: best performance of the year. How did it feel? And
Speaker 1: talk us through that moment where you kicked it through
Speaker 1: for Simonson at the end there. Did you just see
Speaker 1: the fullback out of play?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just see him out to play.
Speaker 7: But yeah, we're not too happy with that result. To me,
Speaker 7: I'm happy we've got the win, but it's not with
Speaker 7: that little twenty minute stint there.
Speaker 8: We had in the second half. Should have put them away,
Speaker 8: but we didn't.
Speaker 7: But it is what it is when it didn't come
Speaker 7: away with the winner we did.
Speaker 1: But personally, for you, on your return to play the
Speaker 1: way that you did, you must be happy with that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, probably bits there where it could be better, but yeah,
Speaker 7: there's a look back on that.
Speaker 8: We go into the by now, so back on.
Speaker 2: That, sow go amen.
Speaker 3: How was the week to get beaten? Last week? Fifty
Speaker 3: points to twelve. But to turn it around, are you
Speaker 3: absolutely outstanding? What did Jason Rowll say at halftime? It
Speaker 3: was ten all and it was a pretty tight contest.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we just needed to control our set ends. I
Speaker 7: feel like we're we'll loose with our last tackle options.
Speaker 7: That's on me and in the spine, and we need
Speaker 7: to be better there.
Speaker 8: And we're just letting.
Speaker 7: Drem Buller who tore us to sheds in that first half.
Speaker 7: He just gave him a not a straight line and
Speaker 7: he was tearing us apart.
Speaker 9: So we need to be better there.
Speaker 7: We did that and that's why we got the result.
Speaker 5: Hey, michild, did you guys taking me notice that it
Speaker 5: was hard night to the locker run Galvin situation at
Speaker 5: the West Tigers? Did you know what to expect? Were
Speaker 5: they going to be pumped by? Was it going to
Speaker 5: affect them? Did you talk about it?
Speaker 8: No, we didn't talk about it all.
Speaker 10: Hey, Mitch briggleed, I mean you pulled away from Earlin
Speaker 10: that second half and they came back into the game.
Speaker 10: What was the talk like at that period in the
Speaker 10: game where you let them so she sort of you
Speaker 10: open the door for them to come back into that
Speaker 10: footy game. That's second half.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's where we need to be better.
Speaker 7: We should probably put him away there, but you know,
Speaker 7: we go down to what do we have eleven men
Speaker 7: at one stage?
Speaker 2: I think, so, yeah, we just needed to.
Speaker 7: Be better there.
Speaker 11: We just had to fight.
Speaker 7: They scored off a kick and that's credit to our defense.
Speaker 8: I had to try to square off kick.
Speaker 7: So yeah, we need to be better.
Speaker 8: But it's just as simple as that.
Speaker 4: What about some of those refereeing decisions? What did you
Speaker 4: make of him?
Speaker 2: I think he's trying his best.
Speaker 8: I thought I thought he was pretty good to I.
Speaker 7: And yeah, it wash depends which ones. Yeah, well we
Speaker 7: got we got warned about the push and sharps, so
Speaker 7: that's where that was coming. So the next pushing shop
Speaker 7: it was definitely gone on the binner and we and
Speaker 7: both teams knew that.
Speaker 6: Mitchell.
Speaker 5: Can I ask you about your coach, Jason Role's first
Speaker 5: year coach one from six going into today.
Speaker 6: How has he held his nerve?
Speaker 5: Because he must have felt pressure the way the side
Speaker 5: was playing before you came back.
Speaker 8: He's been unbelievable.
Speaker 7: Is he's had a calm head on him. Is it's
Speaker 7: probably been easy for him just to go at the
Speaker 7: boys and and really give us some sprays. But he's
Speaker 7: been calm and just knew that if we stuck to
Speaker 7: the process, is that we could come away with a
Speaker 7: result like that. Obviously, we need to fix up our defenses.
Speaker 7: I don't know how many points they had, but it's
Speaker 7: probably it's way too many, so we need to fix
Speaker 7: that up. But yeah, so it's good to see us
Speaker 7: get some our points on the scoreboard with the ball.
Speaker 6: It certainly was.
Speaker 1: Congratulations on the win, Mitch, thanks for joining us, and
Speaker 1: good work on your own performance too. Man, let's get
Speaker 1: Dylan Brown in your partner in crime deal. And it's
Speaker 1: been a tough old year mate. But that win, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what it was. It was an absolutely crazy game.
Speaker 1: But it must feel good to get that win against
Speaker 1: the Tigers at Kombat.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was a great cut.
Speaker 12: Again, every is the weekend we look forward to this game.
Speaker 12: It's obviously a big one and yeah, what a game.
Speaker 12: It was a few sympons in there that we didn't
Speaker 12: go our way and we let.
Speaker 8: Them get back on the scoreboard.
Speaker 12: But I felt like the boys defended pretty well, which
Speaker 12: something we've been working on.
Speaker 10: Dylan, what was it like having Mitchell back this week
Speaker 10: for you.
Speaker 12: You know, obviously, me and played for a long time
Speaker 12: together and we just know how each other plays and
Speaker 12: allows me to do my thing. And it's obviously good
Speaker 12: to have his boot back in the game, you know
Speaker 12: it us kicks us out of trouble and I just
Speaker 12: focused on my kick chase a lot, So he was
Speaker 12: good having back.
Speaker 3: It looked like it looked like that there was a
Speaker 3: momentum shift with the hip drop early in the second half.
Speaker 3: What do you guys make of those decisions? It sort
Speaker 3: of looked like that it wasn't a hip drop to
Speaker 3: us sitting back here in the studio.
Speaker 12: Yeah, look, obviously we're going to worry about a player safety,
Speaker 12: you know. Come, I don't know how his ankles. I
Speaker 12: don't know if he was carrying on trying to hook
Speaker 12: Am Pinnity, but we got to get those out of
Speaker 12: the game.
Speaker 5: So yeah, Hey, Gylen, how have you coped with the
Speaker 5: Newcastle contract? Forty million barks at sports spotlight on near
Speaker 5: more eyeballs. You seem to cope with it today, but
Speaker 5: it's been a tough year for the club and yourself.
Speaker 6: How do you cope with that?
Speaker 8: Yeah? Look, if you don't.
Speaker 12: If you don't see what things are being said about
Speaker 12: you're pretty good.
Speaker 2: So I just keep off.
Speaker 12: Instagram and I don't know what people are really saying.
Speaker 12: Obviously something to look forward to at the end of
Speaker 12: the year, but I've got a job to do here
Speaker 12: at Para, and wins like that really help us out.
Speaker 10: Dylan's two wins. Now, have you broken down the season?
Speaker 10: I obviously want to play finals for you. Have you
Speaker 10: broken down the season and what you need to do well?
Speaker 10: How many games you need to win at different points
Speaker 10: of the year. Have you looked that far ahead?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 8: Look, honestly, we're taking a week by week.
Speaker 12: There's games there that we should have won and we
Speaker 12: knew we could.
Speaker 8: Have won, and that's all we're focusing on.
Speaker 12: Our defense was very good tonight in parts, but obviously
Speaker 12: it'still a lot to work on, but you know, week
Speaker 12: to week. Obviously got to buy coming up, so we
Speaker 12: get a bit of rest there and back into the
Speaker 12: next round.
Speaker 1: Well, Dylan, a very good performance by yourself and a
Speaker 1: great win by the Paramount Eels.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1: Let's get to your coach now, Big Jason Rolls, Rosy,
Speaker 1: what a game.
Speaker 2: Of Rugby League. That was as a cage talk us
Speaker 2: through that. I mean, it was all over the shop.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I don't think I got much voice left, but yeah,
Speaker 13: it was one of those games. The most pleasing thing
Speaker 13: for me is that we got into the fight and
Speaker 13: we stayed in it. And obviously we had had a
Speaker 13: bit of adversity there in the second half of which
Speaker 13: you had to deal with, and then we got we
Speaker 13: found a way to get through it and then come.
Speaker 8: Out the other side.
Speaker 13: So that's something that we've been working on staying in
Speaker 13: games for longer, and we've been doing it for smaller periods,
Speaker 13: but you know, just couldn't do it like we did today.
Speaker 8: So yeah, very pleased for the players.
Speaker 1: You can see those little improvements roles, but the big one.
Speaker 1: And you're in the pre game with Mara Pitt and
Speaker 1: Greg Alexander Cooper Kronk and you're talking about Mitchell Moses
Speaker 1: and you're talking about the difference he would make in
Speaker 1: his kicking game and just I suppose he's leadership and
Speaker 1: getting to certain points on the field. Now, you guys
Speaker 1: were a different team today with him in How impressed
Speaker 1: were you with him?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 13: Very much so, Braith I think you know, I think
Speaker 13: it goes without saying.
Speaker 8: You know, he's a quality player, and his strengths are.
Speaker 13: You know, he's kicking game, and his an ability to
Speaker 13: organize organize our attack especially so. But one thing that
Speaker 13: sort of did probably goes unnoticed tonight is the work
Speaker 13: that he did do in defense.
Speaker 8: Real big focus for him this week.
Speaker 13: Was to make his tackles and defend well and to
Speaker 13: kick well, and I think he did that very well tonight.
Speaker 4: Hey, Rosie, it's Gordy mate.
Speaker 3: How has it been keeping the confidence up in the
Speaker 3: first seven weeks. This is only the second game he won.
Speaker 3: Last week it was fifty points to twelve. But you
Speaker 3: did a magnificent job to get the boys up today.
Speaker 13: Focusing on all the things we're doing well, Gordy, and
Speaker 13: obviously sometimes there's not that many. Last week we took
Speaker 13: a little bit of a step back. We come up
Speaker 13: against a really quality opposition, gave ourselves no chance really
Speaker 13: in regards to how we completed and a couple of
Speaker 13: little things in the game. But the biggest thing for
Speaker 13: us is what do we learn each week and how
Speaker 13: are we going to get better? And that's a real
Speaker 13: theme of how we've been doing things from day one
Speaker 13: and we'll continue to do that and that's going to
Speaker 13: be our focus going forward.
Speaker 5: Hey, Rosie, I saw you had former Wallaby coach Eddie
Speaker 5: Jones in the box. Was he just there some observer?
Speaker 5: Do you have anything to say to you? I know
Speaker 5: you're not very very close to.
Speaker 8: Him, No, Edie was.
Speaker 13: Eddie's been at training all week, so he come comes
Speaker 13: in observes and he gives us feedback on how we
Speaker 13: can be better as a coaching group and what he's
Speaker 13: what he's seeing. So he was actually really good up
Speaker 13: there because because he's such a footy tragic he had
Speaker 13: a little bit of input there a couple.
Speaker 8: Of times which kind of whilst we.
Speaker 13: Were going off for one one of the work one
Speaker 13: of a better way of saying it, but yeah, and
Speaker 13: he short of settled it right down, So.
Speaker 8: It was Man, he's he's just good to have around.
Speaker 13: He's got, you know, an enormous amount of experience and
Speaker 13: like I said, he just loves the foot rugby league.
Speaker 14: Rose.
Speaker 10: He niche is going to get a lot of the
Speaker 10: career out of this game rightly. So I thought you
Speaker 10: fall back today was out sding. Actually, I think he's
Speaker 10: been really good for you all season.
Speaker 14: Young.
Speaker 10: I know I've got sim Bin, but I thought he
Speaker 10: was great for you today. What have you thought of
Speaker 10: him through the opening seven weeks.
Speaker 13: Yeah, he's he's learning on learning his trade, you know,
Speaker 13: on the run and a lot of the things that
Speaker 13: he's been doing. I think it's had a pre game
Speaker 13: a lot of things that he's been doing and you're
Speaker 13: seeing him get the fruits of it today.
Speaker 8: He's been doing that every week.
Speaker 13: And the biggest thing about is he obviously physically he's
Speaker 13: talented and he's you know, he's got some real strengths
Speaker 13: that help us with his speed, and he's in his
Speaker 13: awareness on the field. But you know, he's a good learner.
Speaker 13: So you're showing him something once and and he's able
Speaker 13: to sort of go out and correct it straight away.
Speaker 13: So yeah, we're really happy with how is he goings
Speaker 13: his honor trajectory.
Speaker 8: That's going to be really good for us going forward.
Speaker 5: Give us a scoop before you go. When are you
Speaker 5: going to meet Lucky Gawan?
Speaker 6: Mate? Come on, I'll get a camera there, get a fighter.
Speaker 13: He's available in two twenty seven.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, women November mate, legally or we're in for
Speaker 5: him in your.
Speaker 1: Eyes, it's been it's been a tough start to the
Speaker 1: year for yourself and the team.
Speaker 2: The great Winson.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a turning point for
Speaker 1: your season. Go into the sheds with those boys and celebrate.
Speaker 2: You deserve it.
Speaker 8: Thanks guys, appreciate time there.
Speaker 2: He is Jason Rowle's big fan of his and it's
Speaker 2: been tough.
Speaker 1: As I said, it's been a really tough initiation for him.
Speaker 1: Mitchell Moses there. What about Mitchell Moses, I mean, he
Speaker 1: was the difference today. We didn't know how Paramata we're
Speaker 1: going to respond with him coming into his side, but
Speaker 1: boy did he make a big difference.
Speaker 3: And then Rosie spoke about his defensive that try saving
Speaker 3: tackle over in the corner. He did get him high,
Speaker 3: but just by just the effort pieces that he's come
Speaker 3: back and you just saw the whole Like there's some
Speaker 3: of those players we talk about them when they sit
Speaker 3: in the corner and they pull up their socks, they
Speaker 3: lift the whole Sidey a four Triss's kicking game breath.
Speaker 6: It's just the big thing about him, Gordy.
Speaker 5: It's the first time he's run onto the park for
Speaker 5: paramatter with no clauses in his contract, no media speculation
Speaker 5: about November.
Speaker 10: No, you know, I don't think that affects Mitchell. No,
Speaker 10: I don't think. I actually don't think that's got anything
Speaker 10: to do with the way I think. I think that
Speaker 10: was the Mitchells we saw last season for Paramatta.
Speaker 14: I mean, that was a complete.
Speaker 10: Performance from him, and you know, if he keeps playing
Speaker 10: like that, maybe they can make a run.
Speaker 14: Maybe make a run. No, why not played.
Speaker 5: Well he did in the first half, safe walk and
Speaker 5: it's something Paramatta have not had in the aund him.
Speaker 2: Dylan Brown's better to say that. READI.
Speaker 1: It's even his own individual performance, it's the other guys
Speaker 1: around him. The whole team lifted because he was there,
Speaker 1: and that's the leadership and the energy that he brings
Speaker 1: to this outfit. Now, there are a lot of controversies
Speaker 1: in this game, and we'll start with the far new
Speaker 1: hip drop. Now, when I saw this, and this was
Speaker 1: a turning point. This was one of the biggest turning
Speaker 1: points you'll see.
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was a hip drop.
Speaker 1: The bunker had plenty of time to look at this.
Speaker 1: I'd like to get your opinion on it. And it
Speaker 1: was a pivotal moment in this game. It changed the
Speaker 1: momentum significantly.
Speaker 2: How did you guys see it?
Speaker 10: I didn't think it was hip draw breath I mean
Speaker 10: it gets a bit messy towards the end. But he
Speaker 10: hasn't landed on his leg I mean you can see
Speaker 10: that in that vision there. It has not landed on
Speaker 10: his legs, So how can it be hip.
Speaker 5: But Adam G that Grand Final referee was the man
Speaker 5: in the bunker.
Speaker 6: It's not the referee's fault.
Speaker 5: Adam G has made a gigantic blunder there news It
Speaker 5: changed the game out the score was it was ten
Speaker 5: or ten, it was half time and they scored from
Speaker 5: the play afterwards or the set score the next to
Speaker 5: a massive bunker blunder. There is no way in the
Speaker 5: world that could.
Speaker 1: Be described as a hip fram convinced that they don't
Speaker 1: know what the hip drop rule is.
Speaker 14: So they how can we know breatham, They don't ruling, Like.
Speaker 1: You said, it's the body that comes on the back
Speaker 1: legs of the player that drops. Now he doesn't even
Speaker 1: land on his legs there, and they still look at this.
Speaker 1: Adam G looks at this. How many times he had
Speaker 1: minutes and he scored the try. He scored the try
Speaker 1: a minute later.
Speaker 6: Two minutes and he definitely been taken off. You could
Speaker 6: have think maybe Adam g had as you.
Speaker 3: Said, he's jumping because Trent Robinson made a because they
Speaker 3: got one wrong the other night and he went off
Speaker 3: with the bad knee. The hip drop that I know
Speaker 3: was when Paddy Carrigan did it to Jackson Hastings.
Speaker 4: That's the that's the horrible hip.
Speaker 5: Been around in this game of rugby on.
Speaker 2: Longer you were him.
Speaker 5: Actually, well it depends if you put his coins anchor.
Speaker 5: He started in Camber in eighty seven, so it doesn't
Speaker 5: really matter. I'm trying to make a point when cheers
Speaker 5: he does not understand the hip droll and he's on
Speaker 5: royal committees.
Speaker 4: That's my that was my point.
Speaker 3: You know, when Paddy Carrigan did it, that's the one
Speaker 3: where we went that's not in our game. Now they
Speaker 3: can miss and a player stays down and the ribs
Speaker 3: get the ankles or the lower eggs, because that was
Speaker 3: a Yeah, that's all Ronnie Cook tackle like that.
Speaker 2: Everybody's tackled around the league.
Speaker 4: So I don't get that one, which.
Speaker 1: Goes back to my point, like jack Whiton gets done,
Speaker 1: which that changes that go, well, that was that was
Speaker 1: a big call. And then the camera Titans game there
Speaker 1: was one they didn't give a hip drop. It was
Speaker 1: nearly identical to Jackson. I'm thinking, where are we here?
Speaker 1: And then you see that one. The whole green room
Speaker 1: here watching the game said no hip drop and Adam
Speaker 1: Gey disagree with this.
Speaker 2: Now Taruva and already sinbin in the.
Speaker 1: Fifty third minute? Do we think this was even a
Speaker 1: sin bennable offense?
Speaker 5: Did Mitchell Moses say they were warned on the football
Speaker 5: field about it? The next boy who does something and
Speaker 5: this nature is going to be real.
Speaker 10: That's silly from tub It didn't need to do that,
Speaker 10: and it's just as.
Speaker 1: Silly and sin binable. But that's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: Was it silly or was it a sill?
Speaker 14: Mitch said they'd been warned about it.
Speaker 10: Brace So if you've been warned about it and then
Speaker 10: you go and do that, get what you deserve? I
Speaker 10: think so, I mean we weren't aware of that obviously,
Speaker 10: because we can't.
Speaker 5: My point is this, and I'd bang on a bed
Speaker 5: all the time. Is consistency across eight games eight venues
Speaker 5: every weekend.
Speaker 2: But I have certain.
Speaker 5: You're total to get some consistency. You're entitled to get
Speaker 5: some now at any other ground. That's a penalty, full
Speaker 5: story with the end of story that is to.
Speaker 10: Warn though previously. But if they've been more than the
Speaker 10: next blake to do, it's going.
Speaker 3: But like, we can't put Thursday night up against tonight.
Speaker 3: Like in my opinion, every single game that I played,
Speaker 3: the referee was different every every referee shouldn't.
Speaker 2: Every referee had their own style and they'd give you.
Speaker 3: We can't expect like this guy to referee like a
Speaker 3: guy on Thursday night. There two totally different games, totally
Speaker 3: different teams to try to bend the rules when.
Speaker 5: They have bunkers support, they're entirely Now that's a different one.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, the bunker has to be the same.
Speaker 2: The next one, I only sin bin.
Speaker 1: In the fifty eighth minute another controversial one. I'm not
Speaker 1: so sure if this was a sin bin or not.
Speaker 1: We could compare this one to others throughout the weekend.
Speaker 1: I only given ten minutes in the bin for this,
Speaker 1: contesting the footy and taking out the player before he
Speaker 1: had a chance to catch the.
Speaker 5: Boar thoughts, Well, I don't think it was a professional foul.
Speaker 6: I just don't. I don't think it was a sin bin.
Speaker 14: No, I don't think it was either.
Speaker 10: To be honest, I mean Seawn Russells that's Shaw. Russell's
Speaker 10: right behind him, so I mean Shawn's there. Anyway, I
Speaker 10: didn't think it. Look, I think the better. I think
Speaker 10: the better. But there was just some decisions in the game.
Speaker 14: To make a scratch.
Speaker 1: You don't want to refpash we hate, honestly, you don't
Speaker 1: want to. But there were so many questionable calls in
Speaker 1: this game and throughout the weekend.
Speaker 2: Like I was actually concerned.
Speaker 1: I just had an amortaling in the in the green
Speaker 1: room with the same concerns as me.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It was you know, this is a simultaneous This isn't
Speaker 1: like he's taking him out if this is ten in
Speaker 1: the bin? What was dealing Edwards the other night against
Speaker 1: the DESCO wasn't even a penalty, which was.
Speaker 5: What But you know the funny thing, and I sit
Speaker 5: in the green room and I watched this and I
Speaker 5: think fans of the game have lost confidence in the referee,
Speaker 5: you know what. But I said it was a should
Speaker 5: have went to the big if we talk about fans, right,
Speaker 5: and they're our customers. Do you know the eight games
Speaker 5: this weekend attracted a crowd of two hundred and eighteen
Speaker 5: thousand people, and you know what, that is an all
Speaker 5: time in our record. And that was despite what we're
Speaker 5: seeing people had turned out.
Speaker 2: Your game was unbelievable.
Speaker 14: It was that was that was just everything.
Speaker 1: We were on the edge of our seat the whole game.
Speaker 1: It was spectacular. Someone was but we still were still
Speaker 1: going to get the.
Speaker 2: Calls, right there really was. You were very passionate. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, you do very.
Speaker 14: That's accurate.
Speaker 4: You were thought you're a Bronx fean.
Speaker 14: I'm a Tiger's man, rich O Benji love.
Speaker 1: Mind, let's chose one of my segue into this Moses
Speaker 1: on report in the sixty six minute, Now, this one
Speaker 1: was eating. We didn't know whether he was going to
Speaker 1: get ten in the bin, whether it was going to
Speaker 1: be a penalty try. It ended up being not a
Speaker 1: penalty try and not ten minutes in the bin. What
Speaker 1: was the our take on this one. I'm happy for that,
Speaker 1: like I'm happy.
Speaker 3: For that not to be ten in the bin, right,
Speaker 3: And I think like every day and then that's what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: If the referees there go listen, no ten in the bin?
Speaker 2: Does that?
Speaker 5: But hold on, Gordy, Does he score if it's not
Speaker 5: a high shot? Does he score? You know as well
Speaker 5: as I? Yeah, but you know him as well as
Speaker 5: I do. Good Winger was more of a sin bin
Speaker 5: offense than the fullback going off because he's collected someone
Speaker 5: in the head and prevented him from scoring a try.
Speaker 3: The other guy was I think the tackle prevented him.
Speaker 3: The slight hit to the head didn't stop him from
Speaker 3: scoring the try.
Speaker 14: Well, I sort of agree with was.
Speaker 10: To be honest, I think that's more of a sinminable
Speaker 10: offense than what the only one.
Speaker 6: Must be official. It must be official, But.
Speaker 10: Not because he hit him in the head, because I
Speaker 10: think there's many gating circumstances to the head contact. But
Speaker 10: because it was in the act of scoring a try,
Speaker 10: that's the issue.
Speaker 1: It was a big week for the West Tigers for
Speaker 1: a number of reasons, and after this loss, let's get
Speaker 1: out and see their coach Benji Marshall for his press conference,
Speaker 1: got the.
Speaker 15: Six that had you let them get away with it
Speaker 15: in the end.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, there's probably a ten minute period after halftime
Speaker 9: where we didn't touch the ball and I think they
Speaker 9: scored three tries in a row. It was disappointing the result,
Speaker 9: but we've got a team that fights and fights their
Speaker 9: way back in and like, honestly, I know Paras had
Speaker 9: their times this year, but Mitch Moses and their team's
Speaker 9: a completely different team. And like some of those classy touches,
Speaker 9: he showed where I was standing tonight and his presence
Speaker 9: I thought gave him a lot of confidence.
Speaker 11: And to their credit, they played well.
Speaker 15: Why do you think you didn't handle that period after
Speaker 15: second half?
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's been a bit of a it's been a
Speaker 9: bit of a thing, to be honest. This season now
Speaker 9: starts with our second half. It's been a bit slow. Yeah,
Speaker 9: something we probably need to address and look at. But yeah,
Speaker 9: we got beatn by a better team today.
Speaker 1: You're disappointed with some of the disciplined like sin bidding
Speaker 1: and hot headedness.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, disappointed.
Speaker 9: Disappointed of the result obviously, but not disappointing the effort
Speaker 9: because they keep fighting and turning up and twenty six
Speaker 9: to ten down every right to sort of let it go,
Speaker 9: and they kept fighting.
Speaker 15: We saw a few series in the second half. Do
Speaker 15: you think we could have seen one in the opening
Speaker 15: tackle when Trell got hit in the head.
Speaker 11: What do you think? You've written about it, but what
Speaker 11: do you think?
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, yeah, probably, but it's not for me to decide.
Speaker 9: And that didn't win to lose us the game either.
Speaker 11: I don't know, but a little bit disappointing.
Speaker 13: So I think the try for Luke when he got
Speaker 13: hit in the head by Mitch, did you think penalty
Speaker 13: try could have been in the office?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I have to check what the rules. I'm not
Speaker 9: sure exactly, so it's hard to comment. But we got
Speaker 9: the penalty and still had a chance to get ahead
Speaker 9: and we didn't.
Speaker 11: How do you think the boys have handled like today?
Speaker 11: It's been obviously been to the past week.
Speaker 9: How do you think emotionally they handle it. It's been
Speaker 9: a big week, no doubt for the whole club, and
Speaker 9: you know, so to get out there and try and
Speaker 9: play it as the first part. But I don't think
Speaker 9: that was an excuse for some of the things that
Speaker 9: happened today.
Speaker 8: How do you have a benship?
Speaker 2: Is the story?
Speaker 11: Let's take it's not going to go away. Yeah, well,
Speaker 11: we're going to go back and look at the review
Speaker 11: of what we need to be.
Speaker 9: Better at and then make a decisions.
Speaker 11: Well, I find new hip drop. Why do you think you.
Speaker 15: Guys weren't able to handle that period? I think they
Speaker 15: scored three tries in six minutes. What was missing tonight?
Speaker 9: I don't know if there was a hip drop? Ye,
Speaker 9: from what I saw, I didn't think it was. But
Speaker 9: I agree with what Wayne said. I don't really know
Speaker 9: what a hip drop is anymore.
Speaker 15: It's still regardless of the adjudication. Why why why do
Speaker 15: you think you weren't able to handle that period?
Speaker 9: To be honest, I don't know. If I knew, I
Speaker 9: probably would have addressed it earlier. But like I said,
Speaker 9: we managed to fight our way back. Yeah, that's so
Speaker 9: we'll take something away and round seven we're three and four.
Speaker 9: We need to get back on the horse next week.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 15: What about Jack birds antis tonight through her gear away
Speaker 15: and mister tackle gives a penalty if coffees up and
Speaker 15: what's your view on that.
Speaker 9: We'll have a look at that and us tomorrow. But
Speaker 9: they scored a try. It's not it's not good enough.
Speaker 11: What is it?
Speaker 2: You block out this?
Speaker 3: Lucky Galvin dramma moving forward, and I'll take it you Richard,
Speaker 3: legitimate questions.
Speaker 11: I just want to, like I said, it's been a
Speaker 11: big story.
Speaker 2: Benji said, it's off.
Speaker 11: It's been a tough week. How is it. You don't
Speaker 11: let affect the boys this week? Going next Sunday, get together.
Speaker 11: We're here to play footy. We got to focus on that.
Speaker 5: Back in this.
Speaker 11: They've never let them out, I.
Speaker 15: Believe, so they didn't speak to him.
Speaker 11: I saw them their training, training pretty well.
Speaker 9: With them, mixed them, so I don't think that was John.
Speaker 11: Well, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Well. You don't see that too often.
Speaker 1: Tiger's CEO Shane Richardson jumping in to the press conference,
Speaker 1: telling Benji and Happy not to comment about the Galvin situation.
Speaker 1: That's highly unusual, and I yeah, I would suggest it's
Speaker 1: a legal issue.
Speaker 5: I would suggest he's been briefed by his lawyers, not
Speaker 5: in any way to take questions on the action the
Speaker 5: Isaac Moses and young Galvin are taking. And you can
Speaker 5: get into trot in the heat of the moment, you
Speaker 5: can say something that's not going to help your case.
Speaker 5: So they've played it safety first. I wanted to hear
Speaker 5: from one goal. I want to know brace was he
Speaker 5: going to play next week? Well, it's the elephant the room.
Speaker 5: Let's get to it.
Speaker 1: Locky Galvin, he's issued a legal letter on behalf of
Speaker 1: himself through Isazac Moses to the West Tigers.
Speaker 2: Ready you break this story again, take us through it.
Speaker 10: Well, obviously, as you said, Brath, they VI shoued legal
Speaker 10: a letter to the West Tigers alleging bullying and they
Speaker 10: didn't provide Lochland Gavern with a safe work, safe working environment.
Speaker 10: Look for me, it's not really surprise that he was
Speaker 10: heading down this path at some point because they're obviously
Speaker 10: at Loggerheads and I don't think Lochlan Gavin wants to
Speaker 10: be there anymore. He's been dropped this week and you
Speaker 10: said last cup as we saw, so I guess for
Speaker 10: the well hope hopefully it's not for the court to
Speaker 10: decide break, but it's heading down there.
Speaker 2: It just gets on Australia. Really the letter is.
Speaker 1: It's saying that Lachlan Galvin was bullied by his team.
Speaker 14: Or should say both.
Speaker 10: I haven't seen the letter but but but my understanding
Speaker 10: is it relates to bullying, unable work.
Speaker 1: In the Instagram post that he's they are referring to.
Speaker 10: Well, I assume that's part of it. Break I don't Again,
Speaker 10: I'm I don't know, and no one will tell me.
Speaker 10: But I assume that would form part of it.
Speaker 2: And what's the result of doing something like this.
Speaker 10: Well, I mean potentially goes to court Borath and I
Speaker 10: assume they hope it doesn't go there, and that somehow,
Speaker 10: Well assume both sides hope.
Speaker 2: It doesn't think it's bullying.
Speaker 14: Do I think it's bullying?
Speaker 10: Well, it's probably not bullying at a football club maybe,
Speaker 10: but in a general workplace maybe it goes that.
Speaker 14: Probably, just it's not for me to decide. Is it
Speaker 14: just for court to decide?
Speaker 10: Right, I don't think it's just the place, But I
Speaker 10: don't think it's just I don't know for certain, but
Speaker 10: I don't think it's just the place.
Speaker 5: I want to ask one question there, do you believe,
Speaker 5: and I last you all, he's genuinely been bullied or
Speaker 5: do you believe this is a tactical maneuver to get
Speaker 5: the result that Isaac Moses desperately wants, which is to
Speaker 5: get him out of that football club.
Speaker 2: And family want. Let's stress that that's not just.
Speaker 5: Please, Benny said here. He supported Isaac, you'll support him.
Speaker 5: I'm allowed my opinion just telling you the situation. Isaac
Speaker 5: Moses is the complete architect of what has happened here,
Speaker 5: and as I wrote on Sunday, he has a long
Speaker 5: history at the West Tigers of dragging eight great players.
Speaker 11: Out of that football club.
Speaker 5: So do you think it was a tactic by him
Speaker 5: to fast track an exit or genuine bullying?
Speaker 10: I think the Lachlan probably feels like he's been bullied.
Speaker 10: I think he does answering the question, but it's obviously
Speaker 10: a tactic or a move to try and fast track
Speaker 10: a resolution.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 8: Resolution?
Speaker 2: What else would you do it?
Speaker 1: I mean last week I called it. I said, you
Speaker 1: don't have been nice DRAMs to know what the next
Speaker 1: movie is here?
Speaker 2: Right? I said, I don't want to go over it again.
Speaker 1: I said exactly what was going to happen, word for word,
Speaker 1: step by step, and it's happened, so you know we
Speaker 1: knew this was going to Which is why Buzzer's question
Speaker 1: is a good Is there any reason really? Because I
Speaker 1: mean you're talking to his agent quite often many lives
Speaker 1: come on the show and spoke to him on the
Speaker 1: phone before he got in here. I feel there's another
Speaker 1: a few other guys, a sort of a mouthpiece for
Speaker 1: this agent at.
Speaker 2: The mouthpiece for him. But why hasn't he been quoted
Speaker 2: or why hasn't he been interviewed, and.
Speaker 5: Why doesn't he be more transparent? Why doesn't he I'm
Speaker 5: not necessarily say come on this show, but talk to.
Speaker 14: You or talk to me every now and then, yes, no,
Speaker 14: but on.
Speaker 5: The record, record telling you about There's a lot of
Speaker 5: people out there, including West Tigers fans, even Paramatta fans,
Speaker 5: who want his version of events.
Speaker 10: And then if you tell his version of events, you
Speaker 10: called a mouthpiece anyway, So what's the difference.
Speaker 1: He hasn't been quoted or he hasn't spoken, and in
Speaker 1: my opinion, it's put a lot of pressure, even more so.
Speaker 2: On like on a nine year old kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my opinion is he did a poor deal for
Speaker 3: him and now he wants to get him out of it.
Speaker 4: Poor kid, He is getting hung out there.
Speaker 2: That's not correct because you think it's bulliant.
Speaker 3: Have offered him if they think it's bulliant, I hope
Speaker 3: he doesn't play against Spencer Land.
Speaker 10: The Tigers have offered him an upgrade this year and
Speaker 10: an upgrade next year.
Speaker 14: So if it's about money, he'd.
Speaker 10: Stay because he'd be getting an extra five hundred this
Speaker 10: year and five and the next year.
Speaker 14: So if it's about money, he'd stay. It's not about money, Gordy.
Speaker 2: This is not about.
Speaker 6: Money, suggesting you at mouth piece, but the public.
Speaker 4: But why don't they come out and say what it's about.
Speaker 2: They've said what it's about.
Speaker 10: You want to go to another club because it's the
Speaker 10: best interested in his development.
Speaker 14: He has never said ben he's a poor coach. Does
Speaker 14: he believe and get better coaching elsewhere? Obviously? Otherwise why
Speaker 14: would he do this?
Speaker 1: But that means he'saying he's not a good coach.
Speaker 10: No, it's saying that other coaches else where he thinks
Speaker 10: can help him more. No one has ever said ben
Speaker 10: he's a bad coach and it's.
Speaker 1: Hard Bengi's not one of the better coaches and he's
Speaker 1: get better coaching somewhere else.
Speaker 5: Well, yes, And that was my problem with this whole story,
Speaker 5: that we have a nineteen year old kid who got
Speaker 5: his opportunity under Benji last year made the Rookie of.
Speaker 2: The Year, did he he would have won it?
Speaker 5: Benji gave him the cause to the side before. They're like,
Speaker 5: Benji has done everything for that kid, and that's what
Speaker 5: disappoints me more the disrespect.
Speaker 4: Did he play for the Prime Minister's thirty?
Speaker 2: I think he did it.
Speaker 14: Yeah, well that's pretty good football is very good footballer.
Speaker 6: A question is great, Yeah, do the watch Tigers.
Speaker 2: Is the big question.
Speaker 1: You're right, Buzz, and it's probably better than going around
Speaker 1: circles with this. But we have spoken about it quite
Speaker 1: a bit and I don't think we're going to get
Speaker 1: a resolution on, you know, the situation with his agent.
Speaker 1: It's going to move this week and I'm sure they're
Speaker 1: agitating to get the hell out of there.
Speaker 2: We know that.
Speaker 1: But the big question is do they do do they
Speaker 1: bring him back? If you watch that game today, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at Adam Dewey and if I'm thinking Laughlin Galvin's
Speaker 1: playing where Adam was, it could have been different results.
Speaker 1: And then that's that's because the kicking game wasn't the best.
Speaker 1: Executing under pressure at the back end of the game
Speaker 1: wasn't the best. Louie took a while to get into
Speaker 1: the game. He didn't known that game when he should.
Speaker 2: Have early on.
Speaker 3: It's a common sense approach if he commits to them
Speaker 3: for the next two years, but they don't play here
Speaker 3: for the next six months and then for the next
Speaker 3: twelve months, I will pay my contract he comes back in.
Speaker 2: It's a tricky one.
Speaker 1: Like you, hear a lot of people saying you play
Speaker 1: your best team, and Maddie John's was a big advocate
Speaker 1: of that. You put your best team out there, you
Speaker 1: put your best players the best chance to win. But
Speaker 1: I look at it differently, you know, I talk about
Speaker 1: you go back to the Bulldogs days in teams when
Speaker 1: I was, when we were successful.
Speaker 2: Closest to it's because you trust the guy next to you.
Speaker 1: You'd almost die for the guy next to you. You
Speaker 1: would do anything to win a premiership to win a
Speaker 1: game for the guy next to you. And you can say, yeah,
Speaker 1: pick the best team because he's the best player. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: it's going to work anymore because it is a fractured relationship.
Speaker 1: It's one where you need to earn the trust back
Speaker 1: because you've got a kid who doesn't want to be there,
Speaker 1: and he's not only saying he doesn't want to be there,
Speaker 1: he's looking at his players in the eye and he's
Speaker 1: saying you've been bullying me on social media and apparently
Speaker 1: a training But hang on, let's bring this kid back
Speaker 1: into the team and we trust job.
Speaker 6: Isn't that Benji's job? And rich as as head coach.
Speaker 4: And I don't reckon.
Speaker 5: Of it to bring this football side together. It happens
Speaker 5: at other clubs with Dylan Brown leaving, We've seen it.
Speaker 2: This is different.
Speaker 6: And I'll tell you how serious it is.
Speaker 5: I just got you know, he's acting for Isaac Moses
Speaker 5: and and young gal now half of Moses sc who's
Speaker 5: one of the most prominent barristers in this country and business.
Speaker 14: Yeah, part the red season.
Speaker 5: I just got a text message and he has handled
Speaker 5: some of the most high profile cases.
Speaker 6: In this country.
Speaker 2: Had a very long.
Speaker 6: Period of time.
Speaker 14: I thought they showed some spirit today.
Speaker 10: They came from twenty six to ten down the way
Speaker 10: back into the game. So you know, I think that
Speaker 10: Sid's got plenty of spirit. Spirit now Lachlan. They're a
Speaker 10: better team in Lachlan Galvin. Let's be honest, right and
Speaker 10: they've got to have some serious chats this week and
Speaker 10: make a decision because otherwise the season.
Speaker 6: Could go to the wasistehold on you guys have all
Speaker 6: worked with people you don't like.
Speaker 2: Well, now you know a long period of.
Speaker 5: Time, I've worked with people I do not you know
Speaker 5: what the key with their trust?
Speaker 8: But there are trust is.
Speaker 3: Different to players, yes, and and you know, like you're
Speaker 3: going to work and I love everybody you play with,
Speaker 3: but you're liking.
Speaker 2: Trust with the club.
Speaker 1: You are suing the club for bullying when you're saying
Speaker 1: these guys bullied you. But you know, would we be
Speaker 1: sitting here if you're suing me about bullying and that
Speaker 1: wouldn't be happening.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't be here. I wouldn't be here.
Speaker 1: You've got to resolve that before anything. It's not you
Speaker 1: can't is it resolvable. It seems to me like it's untenable.
Speaker 1: And if it's untenable, it's exactly what they've wanted from
Speaker 1: day one.
Speaker 2: Well, it feels like it's a lot of money.
Speaker 10: It's hard to see how you can resolve it without
Speaker 10: going your separate ways about how that happens.
Speaker 1: You're using the law to get It's just it's it's
Speaker 1: very hard to take this, but I mean it is
Speaker 1: what it is, right.
Speaker 5: I think you know you look at the dangerous preci
Speaker 5: a kid now and the next.
Speaker 14: What if it becomes We spoke about.
Speaker 3: It, but when it comes to bullying, right, I wish
Speaker 3: it was something else because what Spencer landnew when he
Speaker 3: walked up to Jonathan Thurston that's intimidating a post. Do
Speaker 3: you know what I wish, Jonathan Thurston, I can block
Speaker 3: that kid.
Speaker 10: As I said, I don't know this specifics of the
Speaker 10: bullying claims, but I suspect it's more than the post.
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's just me.
Speaker 4: He's apothesized, all right, So if.
Speaker 1: He does, if this does happen, it is untenable and
Speaker 1: he does move on sooner rather than made up. Where
Speaker 1: does he land now? The paramatter ills the team that
Speaker 1: they played against today, Short Price favorites. The coach just
Speaker 1: told us then that he is in. They want him.
Speaker 1: They have made it known to the world.
Speaker 2: So does he go? There is there any interest from
Speaker 2: the Bulldogs?
Speaker 6: Still?
Speaker 2: Where are we at here?
Speaker 10: I think they're the favorites breath obviously because power, because
Speaker 10: it's not a roles.
Speaker 2: He wants him.
Speaker 10: You know, Alaa looks after Mitch mos as well. Galvin
Speaker 10: knows Mitch Moses know each other quite well. I mean,
Speaker 10: I think the other clubs you can look out of
Speaker 10: the clubs that are in the DCE, you know mixed
Speaker 10: clubs are the Dolphins, who I think imagine him and
Speaker 10: Isaiahtowe are playing together in that's a that's just hardnership.
Speaker 2: That's a waste of thirty seconds there. He's like, Okay, well,
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you the club you're gonna look at.
Speaker 2: But I don't think he's Bulldogs.
Speaker 1: Bulldogs. I've heard they want him. Yeah, okay, I don't
Speaker 1: see how it fits, but they want him. I think thirteen.
Speaker 1: They signed him as a thirteen, use him as a
Speaker 1: as aeo. They could do that. I'm just talking about
Speaker 1: what i've heard. And this is not from anyone right
Speaker 1: inside that in a sanctum. This is a bit on
Speaker 1: the outside. But they use him is a thirteen, and
Speaker 1: then who knows with.
Speaker 2: The Hars what they could do fullback centers.
Speaker 1: We've spoken about the reshuffle, but they generally just love
Speaker 1: the kid and think it he'd be great there.
Speaker 5: But his complaints about Benji right, and what was it
Speaker 5: the Vedossia there's seven eight nine, only got a couple
Speaker 5: of them. So his complaints about Benji not being in
Speaker 5: a position to take his career forward with the greatest
Speaker 5: respected rosie at Paramatta. I'm not sure he has the
Speaker 5: runs on the board to fulfill what Galvin and Isaac
Speaker 5: claim he was.
Speaker 10: I was thinking about this today, Buzz actually, and I
Speaker 10: think the one advantage power of God is Mitchell. And
Speaker 10: we saw what Mitchell Moses did tonight. He's got a
Speaker 10: relationship with him already. We've all heard that him and
Speaker 10: Jeria Marlt exactly on the same page. He's got a
Speaker 10: relationship with Mitchell Moses already. But for prestand that.
Speaker 5: But isn't it isn't it Lochland's I've just told you no, No, He's.
Speaker 6: Won four titles.
Speaker 5: Isn't it in Lachland's best interest to latch onto jerame?
Speaker 2: Who will?
Speaker 5: It doesn't seem to try to work out his secrets
Speaker 5: to win, doesn't sound.
Speaker 10: I did that, thick, Buzz. They have a relationship like
Speaker 10: he could have with Mitchell.
Speaker 2: As you got other players there, Moses.
Speaker 10: Where he is about to do a new deal is
Speaker 10: to Arty. I think he's got to's got a few there.
Speaker 10: I've got a few of most clubs all.
Speaker 2: Right, before we wrap this up.
Speaker 1: I understand that Locky Galvin had security with him today.
Speaker 2: Let's have a look here.
Speaker 1: This was a new South Wales Cup game and we've
Speaker 1: got security coming to escort him off the field, which
Speaker 1: is pretty full on for any South Wales Cup game.
Speaker 1: This is where we're at at the moment with this situation.
Speaker 2: How big it is. He didn't talk break at the
Speaker 2: end of the game. We've got we've got the front
Speaker 2: end to see the security. Where is it there? It is.
Speaker 5: Good good.
Speaker 14: I left, it's a good right, it's got away on
Speaker 14: s