WEBVTT - Why Candice & David Warner want their daughters on social media 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:11.639 Hello, and welcome to Something to Talk About the Stellar podcast. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.760 I'm Sarah La Marquin, your host, and every week I 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:16.639 sit down with some of the biggest names in the 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:20.400 country because when Australias celebrities are ready to talk, they 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:24.000 come to Something to Talk About. It is a hot 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:28.639 button issue facing parents these days, how to raise and 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:32.959 protect children in the social media age, with everyone from 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:36.960 the federal government, to schools to the tech platforms themselves 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:41.280 weighing in. Candice Warna, along with her husband international cricket 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:46.559 star David has an unexpected take on raising children in 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:50.600 the era of social media. No strangers to trolling and 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:54.600 negative online comments themselves. Instead of opting to keep their 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:59.080 three young daughters, Ivy ten, Indy nine, and Islah five 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:03.920 off in Graham, they're diving in launching a wildly successful 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:08.960 account that has almost two hundred thousand followers. The Warner 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:12.680 sisters are doing things differently, and on today's episode or 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:16.080 Something to Talk About, Candace joins me for a chat 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.319 about her and David's decision to start and manage the 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:20.880 account on their daughter's behalf. 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.319 There's been times where we've had paparazzis outside of our 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:28.360 house because of certain situations, or we're at the beach 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:32.120 and they're taking photos of myself and the kids that 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:36.920 can be incredibly unflattering to me, to the girls. So 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.640 if we put an image out there, it stops. 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:44.360 All that and offers an unusual and thought provoking perspective 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.800 on how social media could well play a role in 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:49.760 building resilience in children. 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.640 Social media doesn't have to be this dark cloud, this 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:57.360 negative world where you know, it's everyone talks about just 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:58.800 how bad it is all the time. 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.640 Cand Just Wanner, Welcome back to the Stellar podcast. 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:03.080 It's really nice to be back. 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:05.960 I always love chatting to Stella and yourself, so it's 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:06.640 good to be here. 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:08.920 Well, the last time you and I sat down was 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.079 Can You Believe? Was just over two years ago. I 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:14.120 had the release of your memoir and that was a 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:19.920 really powerful conversation but very raw, and I know there 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:21.720 were a lot of tears there, and they can always 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.200 be tears in a podcast, So there might be tears today, 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:25.919 but the tone is a little bit different. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:30.120 It's because I'm not ready for tears, and I generally 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:32.919 when I talk about my family that tends to happen. 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:34.919 But I feel like today there's going to be no. 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.440 Tears, and if they were, they'd be happy teas. That's right, 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.280 because it is Mother's day to day. Happy Mother's Day. 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:44.320 Thank you to yourself, Candison, to anyone listening, reading watching this, 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:48.119 Happy Mother's to day in one form or another. And 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.840 you are on the cover of Stella today with your 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:56.320 husband David and your three beautiful girls. Glorious way to 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.240 mark Mother's Day. Everyone that's tried to get a family 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.040 shot knows it's always easy. 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.240 It's never easy, you know, trying to get that perfect 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:08.639 family photo. Actually, we don't have many, or generally it's 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.360 David and the three girls because I'm the one behind 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.000 the phone or behind the camera taking the photos of 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.840 you know, all the cute things or all those moments, 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:20.520 so I'm not usually in many of the family photos 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:21.560 to be completely honest. 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:23.520 Well there you go. Not only are you on the 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.440 cover of the biggest magazine in the country this week, 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.440 you got to finally got a shot where you're in frame. Yes, well, 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:32.280 so that's a nice one. The girls are Ivy Indian 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.760 Isler are now ten, nine and five. Yes, I'd love 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.840 to ask you a little bit about the family dynamic. Obviously, 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:43.120 every season changes you are very well known that you're 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.840 an extremely close family, close knit family, you and Dave, 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.440 and the dynamic with the girls as they're getting slightly older, 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.000 How is that shifting if at all. 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:57.880 I think we're still incredibly close. David's away a lot. 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.720 You think he retired from playing cricket Australia, but you know, 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.440 currently he's in Pakistan and then he's going to come 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.600 home for three or four days, and then he's off 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.960 to I think it might be the Cayman Islands, and 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.560 then from there he's England and America. So I mean 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:16.520 he's still away a lot. So the girls are my 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:21.039 best friends. We do everything together. Well of course, you 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.720 know they're still so very young. But I'm one of 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.040 those mothers that love to be there and I'm president 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.320 and I'm at school pickup and I try to do 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.760 it all because I love that and I had parents 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:35.320 like that. But the girls are so different. Ivory, who's ten, 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.640 she's you know, the sensitive one, the one that's a 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:43.200 little bit has that soft touch. She's very responsible. I 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:47.080 can rely on her for absolutely anything and everything. Indy, 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:51.679 the middle child, is the joker, always making us laugh. 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:58.039 She's silly, she's quirky, she's incredibly loving. And then we 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:02.680 have Isler, who is the spitting image of David, and 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:07.679 she's full of energy. She from the moment she wakes 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.120 up to go to bed at night, she is just 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.640 on the go. She doesn't stop. She also is funny. 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.240 She's a little bit of a lunatic. But you know, 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.520 the dynamic is all very different, but it's fun. 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.479 You've spoken about how when you were growing up you 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.680 had a bit of tomboy energy to you, and then 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:30.200 being the mother of three girls, how is that dynamic? 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.800 Is there more feminine energy in the household that you 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.640 would have anticipated when you were growing up yourself. 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.080 I think the great thing about the girls is their 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:43.760 real mixture. So I do see that tomboy side in them. 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:47.240 You know, they play football, they surf, obviously, they play 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.120 a lot of sports. But then I'll go home and 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:53.359 they'll be doing each other's hair and you know, helping 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.560 each other get dressed, and I say I like this 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.560 or I like that, and they do their skincare routines 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.160 and all those kind of things that all the other 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:05.000 young girls out there are doing. So I definitely see 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.560 the feminine side of them and the real girly side 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.839 and wanting their hair curled and braided. But then I 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:15.240 do see myself in each and every one of the girls. 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.040 And I mean, of course that is because it is 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:22.839 a reductive question for me in some ways about gender stereotyping, 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.440 because even before we became more progressive and understanding about 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.560 our conversations around being less binary about this, yes, that 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:33.000 whole sort of you know, girls like makeup and pink 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:33.360 and that. 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.400 And I think back now why I would always call 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.320 myself a tomboys because I loved playing the sports that 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.880 my brothers played. But now there's so many more opportunities 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.880 for young girls to play. I suppose what we used 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:49.279 to call boy sports can play and real w we've 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.960 just seen the State of Origin and the enormity of 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:56.120 that for women, and you know, they can play the AFL, 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.480 Now they can play there's cricket, there's so much more 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.640 on offer. But growing up, because I liked those sports 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.719 because my brothers played them, I thought, you know, I 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.719 was a tomboy, and I was. But now you know, 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:08.920 that's just the norm for young girls to do. So 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.239 it's really accepted and they can thrive in any area 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:12.680 of sport. 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.880 It's such a good point. I think probably the word 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:19.280 tomboy is hopefully a bit obsolete now, but as you say, 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.800 there just wasn't that vocabulary for it, which shows a 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:26.160 lot how far we've come with women in sport, and 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.720 of course you yourself have helped play a role in 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:29.880 changing that narrative. 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.360 Yeah, and growing up, there wasn't, like I said, there 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:35.320 wasn't all those sports, or if they were, they weren't 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.400 overly popular. I remember playing soccer and I was the 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.720 only girl in out of four or five teams, so 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:46.400 they put me in the d's And now there's young 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:49.040 girls competitions. My girls play soccer on a Sunday and 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.880 it's all girls competition, which is fabulous. And you saw 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.760 the popularity of the Matildas and what they were able 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:59.400 to achieve, and how they've inspired not just young girls 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.920 but young boy to want to play the game and thrive. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.200 Yeah, so good do you see with their pedigree, obviously, 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:11.240 with their two parents having such elite sporting backgrounds, any 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:15.080 inkling that one of the three, maybe three of the 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.920 three might have a sporting career in their future. 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:22.320 Look, I think they would all love that. They're incredibly 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.560 competitive they play many, many sports, but it's not something 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:31.040 that we push, it's something that they drive themselves. Of Course, 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:34.120 David and I get them to training, we support them, 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:37.439 we do whatever we can to help them achieve their goals. 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:42.560 But they're all really driven young girls, and I love 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.040 that about them. You know, they're the ones who are 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.959 setting their alarms, getting up early, getting their school uniform 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.800 or their tennis close out the night before, So you know. 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:52.840 They are. 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.640 You know, I think if they keep putting in the 0:08:56.679 --> 0:09:00.840 hard work that they do, then possibly because natural ability 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.880 can only take you so far, but that hard work 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:07.120 and that work ethic will take you so much further. 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.240 So look, I see that in them. I see their 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.200 work ethic, their commitment, and if that's anything to go by, 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:16.600 then I'm sure they'll have some sort of success. Whether 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:20.480 they make it to a professional level, who knows, But 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.880 for us, that doesn't determine success. The fact that they 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.600 love what they do and if they can stay in 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:29.400 a sport for a long time means that you know 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.320 they've been able to find something that they truly love. 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.880 The three girls, Candice, I really would love to chat 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.000 to a little bit about social media. I mean, it's 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.360 a hot button issue of the last year. I think 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.600 how all of us relate as adults with technology is 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:49.040 an ongoing conversation, but it's particularly a big conversation around 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.839 children and social media, and of course there was legislation. 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.200 And why this is such a fascinating thing I think 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.320 for you and I to discuss here today is that 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:02.040 your three daughters have an Instagram account called the Warner Sisters. 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:06.120 It's managed by you and Dave. It's almost got two 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:10.440 hundred thousand followers at the time of recording. Can you 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:14.040 tell me a little bit about that decision was that 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:18.920 them angling to open an account? Did you have any reservations? 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.240 Love to know how that conversation unfolded. As a family. 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:26.560 During COVID, David was really big on TikTok. Loved doing 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.400 the dancing and just doing all the fun things that 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.840 I suppose everyone else was doing, and the girls would 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:36.080 quite often get involved in them. And I saw how 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.160 much fun we were all having as a family. It 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:42.120 would make us laugh. It brought us together on the weekends, 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:45.360 would practice dances and do them, and the girls found 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:50.960 a love of just, you know, doing those dances. And 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.720 then they've always been in the spotlight, whether it be 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:57.240 with David on our Instagram accounts, We've never blurred their 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:02.480 faces out or anything like that. So I started the 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:07.240 Instagram account for the girls and it was a way 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.840 for us. It was a way for us to a 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:17.160 few things, teach the girls how to use social media responsibly. 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.880 Even though we use it. We're always showing the girls everything, 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:22.960 you know, before we post anything. You know, are you 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.320 happy with this? We show the girls. They can read 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:28.120 the comments, you know, we show them. It's all about 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.320 teaching them, guiding them. And then it's also we wanted 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.720 to do it in a positive way, show everyone how 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:38.720 fun kids can have. So how much fun kids can have. 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.200 You know, our kids are just no different to any 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.880 other kid. They play sport, they like to do dancers. 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:49.120 They yes, they've got parents with a high profile. But 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.599 for us, it was all about putting out a positive 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.920 image and teaching the girls how to use it responsibly. 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.480 A lot of different things there are that I'd love 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.800 to chat further about. One of them is actually even 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.800 just about putting that positive content out there. Can is 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.559 because I think about this a lot. The algorithm, as 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.160 I think most people know, certainly people that work in 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:15.000 media and are working in any sort of content creation online, 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:20.840 is that the algorithm is rewarding anger and outrage and negativity. 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:22.600 And so when a lot of us, even if you're 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.520 spending a little bit of time on one of the 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.959 social platforms, it just feels like everyone's piling in on 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.680 that person. Everyone's frothying up about this person, everyone's sledging 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.640 this person. Feels like there's a lot of anger and hostility, 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:36.800 And of course you and I could talk a lot 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:41.480 about how that's spilling over into our discourse as humans. 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:46.920 So I'd love to know about that putting lighter positive content. 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:51.480 What's even been the response people finding it refreshing and 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.040 is it getting found because we know that some of 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:58.560 the social media platforms are deprioritizing positive. 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.760 Content, so it's absolutely being found. We see that through 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.960 the views of some of their reels, which can be 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:09.160 eight million views, ten million views, twelve million views for 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.160 some of them, so we know that it's being found. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:15.920 Regards to the algorithm, Again, my daughters don't have a phone, 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:19.800 they don't have social media themselves. They have access to 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.760 see what I've posted of their account, so they don't 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:27.120 see any any negative things. So they're not exposed to that. 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.400 But for us, it was a way to show other 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:36.320 young people, other young users on Instagram and social media 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:40.480 that it is like life can be fun. Social media 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:44.520 doesn't have to be this dark cloud, this negative world 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.840 where you know, it's everyone talks about just how bad 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.320 it is all the time. Well, no, we learn a 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.199 lot through social media as well. It brings us together, 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.679 We can connect with other people, and I think we 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.360 need to sort of see it as that as well. Yes, 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:02.040 there are the dangers, and it's really important to educate 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:06.000 people and our young young users and our kids about 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.439 the dangers. What you put out there, you can't get back. 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.600 And you know, that's what we're doing. We're putting out positive, 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.679 fun things that we like and if you don't like it, 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:20.840 that's fine, and we're trying to show people that, you know, 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.920 it's all about having fun using it the best way possible. 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.120 And I teach my girls and we speak about what 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.200 would Nana think? So if we were putting a post out, 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.640 would Nana agree, would Nana approve? 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:35.800 And so we think about that. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:37.640 You know, if we were going to put something out 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:41.200 that Nana wouldn't approve of, then maybe we shouldn't be 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.880 putting it out because once we put it out, yes you. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.040 Can delete it, but that image can be there forever. 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.640 Could you give maybe an example of that, if you're comfortable, like, 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.440 what would be something where you would apply that test, 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.400 would Mawter approve and you maybe decide against it? 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.800 Generally, it would be the girls love doing dances, and 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:03.120 so if the dance move were slightly inappropriate, or if 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.360 the music that they're dancing to might have lyrics that 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:10.240 I don't think are particularly appropriate, things like that. But 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:14.720 it's all about teaching the girls because they don't quite understand. 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.840 But if we can educate our daughters and our kids 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:22.600 what's right, what's appropriate, what's inappropriate? It could be hashtags 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.520 things that they pick up on at school or in 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:29.520 the playground, but they don't quite understand. So the phones 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.600 aren't going anywhere. Social media isn't going anywhere. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:33.680 But it's about. 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.320 Limiting it and using it in a way. Like I 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.240 said that we can use it in a positive weight. 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:44.480 Phones are our our life, our heartbeat, almost you know, 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.680 that's how we connect, That's how we pay well. I 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.640 pay my bills, I do all my emails, I do 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.560 everything on my phone, but it's about you know, I 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:56.240 think it's an addiction, but it's also we've got to 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.840 learn to sometimes just put it down or be present 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:03.120 with our kids, or prison in an area, but they're 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:04.080 not going anywhere. 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:04.880 They're here to stay. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.680 I just wanted to ask a little bit about federal 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.640 government here in Australia in the legislation that was passed, 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:15.800 which was the Online Safety Amendment, which introduces a mandatory 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:20.200 minimum age of sixteen for accounts on certain social media platforms. Now, 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.960 just again to be really clear, as you've already said, 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.840 ken As you and Dave are managing the account for 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:30.119 your girls, so I know that they're not managing it themselves, 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:35.640 as you've already discussed. But when Anthony Albanzi was drafting 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:39.040 the legislation was before Parliament, he said, there's a clear 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.280 causal link between the rise of social media and the 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.800 harm to the mental health of young Australians. And obviously 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:49.840 some of that is about trolling, but also about then 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:53.880 the dependence I suppose that young people can get on 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:58.640 people liking their content. So I wanted to ask what 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:02.960 your thoughts are about that. Obviously be aware of that discussion, yes, 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:06.080 and for you and Dave. How is that something that 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:10.560 you've navigated in terms of the girls seeing those comments. 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.879 Yes, so I would say that in regards to the 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:18.960 girl's account, ninety nine point nine percent of the comments 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:22.640 have all been positive. If there have ever been any 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:26.120 negative comments on the account, it's about David and us 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.520 as parents, not so much as about the kids and 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:34.159 what they're doing. In regards to Anthony Albernezi and what 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.960 is bringing in with trying to bring in with the 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:43.440 social media. I definitely support that because, like you said, 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:47.320 young people get dependent on the likes, and they can 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:53.720 get depressed and the trolling, and we've seen that suicide 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:57.000 happens from all this online trolling, and I mean that's 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:00.600 something that's very serious. So I definitely agree with that. 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:04.879 But that's why we manage our accounts. Our girls don't 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:07.680 have their own TikTok accounts, they don't have their own 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:15.200 Instagram account because I don't believe that young kids, because 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:21.840 they are kids, have the mental capacity to deal with negativity. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:26.160 They don't have the emotional intelligence to deal with trolls. 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:30.080 Even us as adults, we still don't. So I think 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.359 I think it's a good thing. Whether that means we 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:36.080 have to shut the girl's account down. So be it. 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.040 If that's the rule, If that's the law, then of 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:43.800 course we abide by that. But for us, our social 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:47.800 media is about teaching our girls how to use it responsibly. 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.840 And that's why they have an input in what we show. 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:55.880 That's why I teach them about ignoring negativity. What you do, 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.440 we just delete the comments. You mean, now you can 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.919 completely turn off all you can hide likes. There's so 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:05.440 many different things you can do now. But it's all 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:09.000 about for us teaching the kids, educating the kids, but 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.680 also allowing them to have fun as well. 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.080 And coming up, Candice reveals the secret to her and 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:25.520 David's ten year marriage. Your explanation there, I think has 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.720 also answered some questions that I'm sure some people have 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.360 put to you directly or listening to this might have, 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:37.560 which is well, obviously, you being in the public spotlight 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.560 for so long since you were a teenager and first 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:45.439 becoming an iron woman, and of course David Warner of 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:49.160 course also a huge name for both of you, You've 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.840 experienced so much trolling. You and I have discussed that, 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:57.560 and some people go, well, why even let your girls 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.840 anywhere near that surely you would run am from it, 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:03.879 and it sounds to me and it's what you're saying 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:08.840 is you feel this is helping you, you're empowering them, 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:12.880 and for you, your approach is more. Actually it's there. 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.320 So because almost of what we've been through, we're really 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:17.119 on the front. 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:21.520 Foot there most definitely, and we have experienced trolling. We 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:25.360 still experience it, whether it be a newspaper article or 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.399 you know, there's people always going to leave comments that 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.200 aren't very nice. But you've got to also learn that 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.560 that's life and you've got to learn to if whether 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:38.560 it happens face to face in life, you've got to 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.119 learn to deal with it, to turn your back or 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:44.840 to to you know, walk away from a certain situation. 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.439 And social media is going to be there whether we 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.919 like it or not. So it's for us, it's about 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:54.960 teaching the kids, if this is what's happened, then delete it, 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:59.159 turn your comments off, don't read it, or teaching my 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:03.639 kids that to be positive to when they are at 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.080 an age where they have their own social media accounts, 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:09.920 how about we lift people up and we write comments 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:11.520 on If you are going to write a comment, you 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:15.120 write something that's empowering, something that's going to make that 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:19.280 person feel good, you know, send some love rather than hate. 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:24.760 And it's again, if you just completely just block it 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.760 out and say it doesn't exist, well then I don't 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.480 think you're teaching your kids how to use it properly. 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:35.160 And it can be a real positive thing. And if 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:39.159 you don't want to go on social media, don't. If 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:41.080 you want to protect your kids in a way where 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:44.600 you're not teaching them any life skills or anything about life, 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:48.640 well then you're letting your kids down. Okay, So for us, 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:54.000 it's about teaching, it's about we Also we're very protective 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:56.280 of our kids. Again, they don't have their own social 0:21:56.320 --> 0:22:00.080 media account. They aren't old enough, you know, so so 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:05.280 we see it all. We hear what everyone's saying. But 0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:10.520 it's for us, it's about letting them be kids also 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:12.400 enjoy enjoying it. 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:15.840 I'd love to ask you about the response, the negative 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:18.560 and the positive, so both of them, because like I said, 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:23.640 just think it's a really interesting discussion. And sometimes public 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:27.880 sentiment seems to be going in one direction on an issue. 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.720 I think especially when there is as we both acknowledge, 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:35.120 it is really valid conversation that we're all navigating as 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:38.920 consumers of our social media and creators ourselves, but also 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:43.080 as parents. But the other side people going, well, I 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:45.479 do want to be on there, and I want to 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:50.440 actually turn the algorithm around, because if everyone that wants 0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:52.920 to put positive comment or get on there in a 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:56.280 nice way goes away, well then I mean to put 0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:58.280 it in the most simple ways. The bad guys are 0:22:58.280 --> 0:22:58.880 going to win. 0:22:59.080 --> 0:22:59.960 Yes, yeah, exact. 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:02.320 And so if you can put something on that's going 0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:06.639 to make someone smile, someone laugh, someone feels something in 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.359 their heart that they may not have felt before, then 0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:12.800