Speaker 1: Appo Shape Production.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Am I A Bad Mum?
Speaker 1: Podcast?
Speaker 2: The question we ask three times a week.
Speaker 1: We're in term four now, yes we are.
Speaker 2: Christmas is coming.
Speaker 1: Elsie made that comment to me the other day of going, oh,
Speaker 1: there is no need to say that Christmas is only
Speaker 1: eleven weeks away or ten weeks away or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: She's like, that's just far too far away. It's not
Speaker 1: far enough, my friend. From a parenting perspective, You're going, Actually,
Speaker 1: it's so close that people are sending like text messages
Speaker 1: about like, what's plans for Christmas? I haven't even worked
Speaker 1: out what next week is.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know what's planned for this afternoon.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: We're on Instagram as well at am I A Bad mom?
Speaker 2: Speaking of Elsie because this is perfect for her. And
Speaker 2: actually Amelia sent me this. And Amelia is the oldest
Speaker 2: twin by by one minute, one very important minute, but
Speaker 2: she sent this through and it's a meme and it
Speaker 2: says new study shows that the youngest sibling is fifty
Speaker 2: percent more likely to end up in jail than the
Speaker 2: oldest sibling.
Speaker 1: Am I a bad mom? For missing them? Just a
Speaker 1: little bit too? Much.
Speaker 2: I was having a conversation about you to somebody the
Speaker 2: other day and I don't know what you're about to
Speaker 2: talk about. The conversation was around Rachel was finding it
Speaker 2: a lot more difficult with her kids growing up.
Speaker 1: And not needing her as much. I think I am.
Speaker 2: I think I'm quite embracing the let's move on to
Speaker 2: the next bit. When are you moving out?
Speaker 1: I think this comes off the back of coming out
Speaker 1: of holidays. So we just had the last lot of
Speaker 1: school holidays, right, and I randomly had majority of the
Speaker 1: school holidays without kids because my mom took them away,
Speaker 1: which we spoke about. That's on Nanadee. You talk them
Speaker 1: to the middle of Queensland. They went out, they had
Speaker 1: the best holidays, right. But you know when you get
Speaker 1: to the back of holidays and then you're talking with
Speaker 1: other mums and they go, oh, how did you go
Speaker 1: for school holidays? And I had this. I didn't have
Speaker 1: my kids for school holidays, but they had the best
Speaker 1: time they went away. I just worked and did life.
Speaker 1: And I've said it to a few mums and they
Speaker 1: sort of looked at me with this foul disgust on
Speaker 1: their way. So I like, how fucking dare you have
Speaker 1: no kids? I genuinely missed them so much. You know,
Speaker 1: we talk about this podcast so many things with reflection
Speaker 1: like that self reflection. This was like a real soppy
Speaker 1: self reflection of I actually am not sure what I'm
Speaker 1: going to do without them, kind of like reflection. It's
Speaker 1: real weird and you and like we've been talking about
Speaker 1: this on the podcast for a couple of weeks where
Speaker 1: you're like, power on, pony, let's go. I'm ready, are
Speaker 1: you moving out? Oh? You're getting your driver's license? Oh?
Speaker 1: This is one do you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: here I am just like holding on tightly, just going like,
Speaker 1: don't grow up, please take me with you vibe.
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at you with a very confused look
Speaker 2: right now because I know it's very puzzling to me,
Speaker 2: I think because I've always been the other one. I'm like,
Speaker 2: who even are you?
Speaker 1: I've been the other way? Well, just simply means that
Speaker 1: I'm going through something, not them, just me, like me
Speaker 1: internally and personally, it's obviously going through something.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's to be like a little bit easier at
Speaker 2: the moment too, because I don't feel like this will
Speaker 2: be the same conversation off the back of the morning
Speaker 2: of them fighting, putting their shoes on, not getting out
Speaker 2: of the house, and all the.
Speaker 1: Rest, all of the other jars that comes with it.
Speaker 1: And I think it's probably from having nearly two weeks
Speaker 1: away from each other and I it's two weeks. It
Speaker 1: was nearly two weeks by the time I got back
Speaker 1: from Remember we had the dance concert and then dance
Speaker 1: and then more dance, and I drove home late on
Speaker 1: the Tuesday afternoon with both the girls. They literally got
Speaker 1: in the car and started the journey on the same
Speaker 1: day that we got home from NUSA, and then I
Speaker 1: didn't see them till the following Friday night, where they
Speaker 1: were back to school on the Monday.
Speaker 2: So I reckon it's going to be a really weird
Speaker 2: feeling when I know, we joke about the fact that
Speaker 2: I don't think my kids are going to move out
Speaker 2: for a very long time, at least thirty ire and
Speaker 2: I'm not even joking at.
Speaker 1: Of what it costs. Yeah, that's exactly right. Life's so
Speaker 1: good at home. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: They've got school camp coming up. They don't want to go.
Speaker 2: They're absolutely hating the thought of going to school cap.
Speaker 2: We got to do this an I'm like, school camp
Speaker 2: will be fun. No, it won't, your alliance mate.
Speaker 1: It's only countdowns on how many days until like because
Speaker 1: it always falls around their birthday, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not on their birthday this year, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it's close. We talk about the fact that they are
Speaker 2: never going to move out, but what are we gonna
Speaker 2: do when they actually do move out. I know that
Speaker 2: over those two weeks that your girls were away, you
Speaker 2: were struggling with what do I do with myself? Because
Speaker 2: every single day is about what your kids need. You
Speaker 2: wake up in the morning and it's about what they need.
Speaker 2: They need breakfast, what do they need for school today?
Speaker 2: Do they have to pack a pee kit? Where are
Speaker 2: they going after school? Then it's dinner time, homework, bedtime.
Speaker 2: Every part of your day is thinking about your kids.
Speaker 2: So then we're not around.
Speaker 1: Well that's what I was like. And you know when
Speaker 1: it was for me, like the time of day sort
Speaker 1: of that three pm drough to almost like seven pm
Speaker 1: because they from little right, we've always had a routine.
Speaker 1: I always had a routine, and the back end of
Speaker 1: the day was always like really quite a strong routine.
Speaker 1: It was you know, play, have fun, get dirty, all
Speaker 1: the rest, and then it would come in. It would
Speaker 1: be like bath, dinner, wine down, you know, maybe a
Speaker 1: bit of TV or whatever, and then reading and then bedtime.
Speaker 1: It was always just so like it's always been that
Speaker 1: back end of the day routine, Katie. There was a
Speaker 1: day I was sitting there at my laptop just trying
Speaker 1: to constructively do some work. I'm just sitting there like
Speaker 1: this or what do I do now? I didn't even
Speaker 1: have to cook dinner, but I still chose to cook dinner,
Speaker 1: but I could cook stuff that actually adults wanted.
Speaker 2: Would have helped you in anyway if I had to
Speaker 2: come over to your house during that time, just messed
Speaker 2: shit up, just kick my shoes off, made it a
Speaker 2: bit messy, so you had to, you know, tidy up
Speaker 2: behind me, complained about whatever you cook for dinner, and
Speaker 2: then just argued.
Speaker 1: With you feel right. The funniest part was, though, there
Speaker 1: was like an option or a time where someone said
Speaker 1: something about like catching up with kids, and I was like, oh, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not. No, you've got all your kids. Oh no,
Speaker 1: oh no, you don't do that. I don't need to
Speaker 1: catch up because I don't have any kids, and you've
Speaker 1: got lots of kids, so I don't really need to
Speaker 1: catch up. Yeah, no, it's so bad.
Speaker 2: I've had that recently too, where someone was like, de
Speaker 2: fancy doing this, and I was like, not really, because
Speaker 2: my kids are away on the weekend, and yes, I
Speaker 2: would love to catch up with you. I don't want
Speaker 2: to catch up with you if there's other kids.
Speaker 1: Yea.
Speaker 2: There Like not that I don't like your kids. Your
Speaker 2: kids are beautiful, love your kids, but I just don't
Speaker 2: want to be around kids. If I don't have my kids,
Speaker 2: I don't be around anyone else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is exactly right. And I sort of looked
Speaker 1: at them. I was like, you know, I love you guys,
Speaker 1: but I'm probably good actually sit on my own, sit
Speaker 1: on the couch by myself and wonder what my children
Speaker 1: are doing. I love that they had the best time
Speaker 1: aback to wrap this up. When they did get home,
Speaker 1: I got like a really warm reception and like it
Speaker 1: was big hugs and all the rest, And then I
Speaker 1: found myself hugging them a little bit too much, to
Speaker 1: the point that my second born by Sunday, so he
Speaker 1: had only been home Friday night, so Saturday Sunday, she
Speaker 1: was like, Ah, can you actually stop hugging me? What's
Speaker 1: wrong with you? What's wrong with me? I just I've
Speaker 1: missed you and you've been away for two weeks. Oh
Speaker 1: can you stop hugging me a little bit too much? Sake?
Speaker 1: I'm like this, I'm like, I can't win here. I
Speaker 1: can't win. One minute I don't hug you enough, next minute,
Speaker 1: I'm hugging you too much. What do you want from me? Kid? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well I had that recently too. Don't hug me? Yeah,
Speaker 2: an episode of the podcast, and I was like, don't
Speaker 2: hug me.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, just go be here.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is what we're going to do next school
Speaker 2: holidays and your kids go away. I'm going to come over.
Speaker 1: I'm going to mess it.
Speaker 2: I'm going to make you. I'm going to make you
Speaker 2: feel right at home. I'm going to complain about dinner
Speaker 2: and probably argue with you. I'm going to probably tell
Speaker 2: you that I hate you a few time and time,
Speaker 2: and then I will hug you. I'll give you a hug.
Speaker 1: Because wrap it up with a big hug. I love you,
Speaker 1: but I hate you, but here's a hug. Anyway I'll
Speaker 1: feel right at home