Speaker 1: Hello, buddy, It's Monty. We're their friend Brook. We've titled
Speaker 1: the podcast and it is drum.
Speaker 2: Roll fully sick, Pully.
Speaker 1: Sick MATEU sick mate, because we want this pod to
Speaker 1: be fun, but also, you know, chat about the fact
Speaker 1: that we are fully sick, and so we've decided we're
Speaker 1: going to call it that. Anyway, Thank you for listening,
Speaker 1: and thank you for listening to the last episode as well.
Speaker 1: We're just yes blown away.
Speaker 2: And thank you for all your listener questions too. We've
Speaker 2: got loads that we're excited to get through.
Speaker 1: Yet, loads and loads. Anyway, before we get into fully
Speaker 1: sick stuff, I saw earlier on in the week that
Speaker 1: guy Nelson who used to work on Sunrise.
Speaker 2: Remember, oh, the entertainment reporter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for like literally twenty years or something, he's been
Speaker 1: the entertainment reporter and he's done a podcast with somebody
Speaker 1: else about the worst interviews that they've ever done.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, do you see.
Speaker 1: I love that kind of stuff. Anyway, So they were
Speaker 1: talking about Blake Lively and he was saying how he
Speaker 1: had a good one with her and then a terrible
Speaker 1: one with her, and how Ryan Reynolds overtime went from
Speaker 1: really goofy and awesome to more serious. I spoke about
Speaker 1: Robert Demiro was his main one. How they said to him,
Speaker 1: he won't look you in the eye.
Speaker 2: Wow, I find that so fascinating, Like who are you?
Speaker 2: You're you're a person, Like, how can you not look
Speaker 2: another person in the eye?
Speaker 1: I know, it's so nuts. But how the actual interview
Speaker 1: was set up. So he went into the interview room,
Speaker 1: and how these works. They're usually in hotel bi co
Speaker 1: hos towels and they set up a room and law
Speaker 1: chairs opposite the other person and you're quite far apart,
Speaker 1: so the mood like that they can capture on video,
Speaker 1: you know, film each of you. That he said, Robert
Speaker 1: de Niro's chair was facing like off to the lift.
Speaker 2: So Robert de Niro is like looking out the window.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Robert de Niro is basically looking out the window,
Speaker 1: not looking at Nelson. Wow, Nelson's looking straight onto him.
Speaker 1: And he said, but then how they edited it. It
Speaker 1: made it look like Robert de Niro was looking at
Speaker 1: him and they were having a face to face.
Speaker 2: That is just so rude, like you're talking to someone
Speaker 2: there looking at the window.
Speaker 1: It's so strange.
Speaker 2: Cases you and I have had some pretty strange interviews
Speaker 2: in the past. I'd say, would you agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, because we used to do that were called
Speaker 1: on the couch videos, and for those of you that
Speaker 1: have followed Chantel for a long time, we literally would
Speaker 1: set up interviews on my couch with different well known people.
Speaker 1: But we got the opportunity, what's what's your worst one?
Speaker 1: First started?
Speaker 2: I was I would look, without a doubt. I feel
Speaker 2: bad saying this, but without a doubt, the worst one
Speaker 2: was Amy Schumer and it was yeah, look, I don't
Speaker 2: feel like it was so much her fault because it
Speaker 2: was one of those With all of our interviews, it's
Speaker 2: usually we have somebody come into the house. You know,
Speaker 2: when someone comes into your home, I think they feel
Speaker 2: quite comfortable immediately. And this was a different situation because
Speaker 2: it was in a hotel and we didn't get as
Speaker 2: long with her as we'd like, and what happened.
Speaker 1: I would like to warm them up a bit and
Speaker 1: chat about them, and they'd get their makeup done at
Speaker 1: my house, so we'd have like forty five minutes to
Speaker 1: chat with them. Yeah, but hold on, when you say
Speaker 1: it wasn't her fault, it was totally her fault. She
Speaker 1: was a complete asshole.
Speaker 2: Look, she was, But I'm just giving her some grace
Speaker 2: only because she'd had a few rough interviews before us,
Speaker 2: So she was in a bad mood to start with.
Speaker 2: And once we kind of found that out a little
Speaker 2: bit later, it made sense.
Speaker 1: I think, oh, see, you're very forgiving. I was because
Speaker 1: I was the one interviewing her two yeah, professor, and
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the couch with her going, I honestly
Speaker 1: have never worked harder in my whole life than that
Speaker 1: Amy Humor interview.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But also her interviews previously were hard because she was
Speaker 1: in a bad mood. She was out promoting that movie
Speaker 1: that she wrote, and would you remember it was called
Speaker 1: train Wreck, train Wreck, train Wreck, Yeah, and it's like
Speaker 1: you're already doing the pr for it. But it was
Speaker 1: just every single person who interviewed her said how horrible
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, I remember the rep just floating our
Speaker 1: own boaties like yours was hands down the best.
Speaker 2: Yes, she told us that she liked us the best.
Speaker 2: I thought it was because previously she had spoken to
Speaker 2: a male radio host who had given her a bit
Speaker 2: of a hard time, and so he'd put her in
Speaker 2: a bad mood, which still you're right, it doesn't excuse
Speaker 2: her behavior.
Speaker 1: To us professional. I don't remember who else, like usually
Speaker 1: everyone was pretty epic who we would chat to.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember though when I first or when I was
Speaker 1: a Black Thunder pilot at the Melbourne radio station and
Speaker 1: I'd go out and hand out icy cole cans of coke.
Speaker 1: They'd sometimes do like rooftop oh yes, where they'd get
Speaker 1: celebrities to come. And this was and this wasn't a
Speaker 1: bad experience. It was just strange that Kellie Clarkson was
Speaker 1: the wow rooftop and my job, which was one of
Speaker 1: the best ones, was to look after Kellie Clarkson and
Speaker 1: make sure she had what she needed.
Speaker 2: Lucky her, hope she didn't need anything.
Speaker 1: Seriously, can I want to get fucked? Get your own
Speaker 1: water and then get her up onto stage and stuff.
Speaker 1: So she was about to go up to stage. She
Speaker 1: was in thirty centimeters from my face even closer and
Speaker 1: held my eyes and did her warm up routine.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Like did she serenade you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was like yeah, like doing singing, holding
Speaker 1: my eye contact.
Speaker 2: Tu.
Speaker 1: So I was like my internal dialogue was like, this
Speaker 1: is amazing. I've got Kellie Clarkson like warming up in
Speaker 1: my face to what the fuck is I can't look anywhere.
Speaker 1: I've got a hold of her gaze. This is so awkward.
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool though, Yeah it was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: But also, you know who were the shittest being like
Speaker 1: in terms of having the attitude was always the Australian
Speaker 1: idol people or the Big brother people like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Britties were always the worst. I think they weren't
Speaker 1: media trained.
Speaker 2: They just don't know the business. They don't get that
Speaker 2: if you're not polite to whoever the radio host might be,
Speaker 2: or if you come in and you be an asshole,
Speaker 2: you won't be invited back. But they don't get that
Speaker 2: at that age.
Speaker 1: Because you have been a producer forever And how Brooke
Speaker 1: and I met was you were Sam's which I think
Speaker 1: I said in the first episode we did my partner's
Speaker 1: assistant producer on Hammers.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, back when I was a little whipper snapper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you worked on The Circle that women's
Speaker 1: like TV show for a long time and stuff. So
Speaker 1: you've seen a lot and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I've I the only person that stands out
Speaker 2: as being a really tough interview and not an amazingly
Speaker 2: friendly gracious person was Amy Schumer. I did, which is
Speaker 2: pretty good. Yeah, But I also used to and I've
Speaker 2: told you this before, I used to find that some celebrities,
Speaker 2: and to be honest, it was usually like the Australian celebrities.
Speaker 2: There would be the occasional person that you know, you'd
Speaker 2: go out and you talk to about as the producer.
Speaker 2: You know, you go out and introduce yourself and talk
Speaker 2: through how it's going to work, what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: And often they could be quite grumpy or just come
Speaker 2: across quite rude or you know, like they're not having
Speaker 2: a great day. And then literally as soon as I
Speaker 2: walk in and open the studio doors and the hosts there,
Speaker 2: like whether it's Hami Shinandy or whether it's you or
Speaker 2: whoever it might be, their demeanor just completely changes.
Speaker 1: And they just turn on for me.
Speaker 2: Yet they turn on, And I used to find that
Speaker 2: so interesting because I think that shows a lot about
Speaker 2: someone's character because if you're you're the producer, I'm you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to bother using my energy you. But
Speaker 2: with the hosts, I'll go to town and give them
Speaker 2: everything I've gosh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because also you think you can get more from
Speaker 1: the hosts.
Speaker 2: Yes, but little do they know, like the producers have
Speaker 2: a lot of weight too. Totally, but yeah, you get. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there was the odd occasion where you'd really get not
Speaker 2: very much and be quite baffled by the way they
Speaker 2: come in and do their jazz hands and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, anyway, let's do a little check in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how have you been this week? You haven't had
Speaker 2: a great week?
Speaker 1: Maybe I have had, hands down the worst week of
Speaker 1: my life. Oh my gosh, I know that sounds dramatic.
Speaker 1: I had a migraine where I was in bed for
Speaker 1: nine days. I still feel washed out from it. It
Speaker 1: was so unbelievably hideous. It just kept going and going
Speaker 1: and going. And the pain was a new pain level
Speaker 1: to me for.
Speaker 2: People that don't understand migraines and what a migraine feels
Speaker 2: like when you talk about pain, what does that pain
Speaker 2: feel like?
Speaker 1: The pain was like an intense like grip around my head,
Speaker 1: throbbing and really nauseous and really dizzy. And I think
Speaker 1: it's the dizziness that gets to me the most because
Speaker 1: I can't they still, I have to keep going from
Speaker 1: one side to the other and it's so awful. And
Speaker 1: I just had times where I'm like, this needs to end.
Speaker 1: I can't it's too hard. It's too hard. And then
Speaker 1: the next or next day I'd wake up and the
Speaker 1: first thing I'd go is it's still there. I just
Speaker 1: couldn't believe how relentless it was.
Speaker 2: And then waking up in that moment and thinking, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I have to get through another day like this.
Speaker 2: How will they do that? And you did go to hospital,
Speaker 2: You ended up in hospital.
Speaker 1: I ended up in hospital twice because the first time
Speaker 1: it didn't work what they gave me, and then the
Speaker 1: pain got so brutal again. I said to Sam, we
Speaker 1: have to go and try again. And that was a
Speaker 1: week apart. It was like a Wednesday, and then I'd
Speaker 1: gone another week and it still was terrible.
Speaker 2: But how are you feeling today today?
Speaker 1: I just feel really washed out and I feel really
Speaker 1: anxious because I've been so sick and I have I
Speaker 1: can feel a tingle of a bad head, and whenever
Speaker 1: I feel that, I go, shit, what's this going to
Speaker 1: It's going to get one way or the other. But
Speaker 1: I also was like when I was in the thick
Speaker 1: of it, because now I realize it's when you're so
Speaker 1: sick and then you come out of it. It's almost
Speaker 1: it felt like childbirth in a way to me, that
Speaker 1: you're so programmed to forget how terrible it was. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Yeah, I look back
Speaker 1: and go, God, that was a hectic nine days. But
Speaker 1: I can't feel it.
Speaker 2: You can't go back to that exact feeling, you know,
Speaker 2: it was all.
Speaker 1: That feeling Thank God you get down, But it sounds
Speaker 1: like a form of trauma that your body goes. You've
Speaker 1: got to forget this because it was too much.
Speaker 2: But then do you have the feeling of when it lifts,
Speaker 2: just that feeling of completely being so a late, like
Speaker 2: so happy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, but I wrote while I was
Speaker 1: in bed, I thought I'll read it out, just write
Speaker 1: something because.
Speaker 2: Oh am I going to cry?
Speaker 1: No, I don't think you'll cry. But I just because
Speaker 1: when we record, we are in a better place. And
Speaker 1: I thought, sometimes it's hard to tap into how things
Speaker 1: tricky can bear, like how tricky things can be when
Speaker 1: you're feeling okay. So I thought, while I was not
Speaker 1: like fucking spinning like a merry go round, I just
Speaker 1: wrote a couple of notes, and this is it. When
Speaker 1: we podcast, I'm usually having a good or at least
Speaker 1: better day. I can sometimes find it tricky to tap
Speaker 1: into the full reality of what I'm going through because
Speaker 1: the way our mind works, it blocks out how painful
Speaker 1: things can be. Today is not a good day. I've
Speaker 1: been in bed for eight days with a migraine. I
Speaker 1: can't shift. I went to hospital and nothing they gave
Speaker 1: me even slightly touched the sides. I haven't left my
Speaker 1: room for what feels like months, so Sam or my
Speaker 1: boys bring me food and drinks, half of which comes
Speaker 1: straight back up. The pain over this week has gone
Speaker 1: to a whole other level. I've suffered with migraines for
Speaker 1: thirty years, but the intensity of this attack has become
Speaker 1: so unbearable at times I almost got into some other
Speaker 1: kind of world. The extreme dizziness makes it impossible for
Speaker 1: me to lay in one spot for longer than thirty seconds,
Speaker 1: so hours on and are spent turning from one side
Speaker 1: to another. I cry, but that makes the pain worse.
Speaker 1: I have my boys come in and suggest things like, Mum,
Speaker 1: maybe if you keep your head straight on the pillar,
Speaker 1: it will help.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: My middle boy Alo also made me a drawing. It
Speaker 1: was me lying in bed with an eyemask on, and
Speaker 1: he wrote how much he loves me. It's funny, smile
Speaker 1: and totally broke my heart. Sam has had to take
Speaker 1: days off work so he can be there to refiel
Speaker 1: my drink and bring me what I need. Last night
Speaker 1: he said, Babe, this is almost the point we need
Speaker 1: a full time.
Speaker 2: Care of you, honey.
Speaker 1: I was silent, because when things get this bad, he
Speaker 1: is right, he needs to work with me, not being
Speaker 1: arble to. It's all on his shoulders. Today, I'm defeated,
Speaker 1: I'm angry, I'm sad, and I'm full of guilt and rage.
Speaker 1: I want to run for my reality and I can't
Speaker 1: see an enter this and this is so far from
Speaker 1: any form of life I ever thought i'd live.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, it's so hard to hear that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just was.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so sorry that you had to live through that.
Speaker 2: That's your reality, yeah, and is my reality.
Speaker 1: And then I came okay, and I went to a
Speaker 1: friend's house for lunch with other people, and then yesterday
Speaker 1: I went out from life.
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? Even just that concept, like I know
Speaker 2: you've been in that, And then the next day, you're
Speaker 2: somewhere else and people don't know, and you're like, I
Speaker 2: wanted to die yesterday.
Speaker 1: I literally wanted to die, and now today I'm here
Speaker 1: eating chicken with fucking friends. It's so strange. It's the
Speaker 1: up and down of it that makes it so much
Speaker 1: believably challenging. So I know what's coming, what's next hour,
Speaker 1: or what's the next day. Anyway, that's my week.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for sharing that with us. When
Speaker 2: you're in those moments, it is hard to Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: hard because you come out of it and you're so
Speaker 2: grateful and there's so much gratitude and you're so happy
Speaker 2: that you do forget. So I think it's important to
Speaker 2: write down those feelings and how it felt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yours wasn't a huge amount better procedures.
Speaker 2: Oh look, yeah, it probably wasn't the best week. I
Speaker 2: was having a tummy flare up already, and then I
Speaker 2: had to go and have a colonoscopy and a endoscope.
Speaker 2: But my god, like the last time I had a
Speaker 2: colonoscopy was like twenty years ago. I think I forgot
Speaker 2: how awful it is, Like, it is awful.
Speaker 1: The prep is so hectic.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's what I mean. The prep and because I
Speaker 2: was already quite sick, I was like both ends for
Speaker 2: like two days.
Speaker 1: It was just awful.
Speaker 2: Like I just walked into the hospital and you know,
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm here for my procedure, just I
Speaker 2: need to get in there, like please let me in there,
Speaker 2: let this just do this and let this be over.
Speaker 1: And it was a four o'clock procedure, which just feels cruel,
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't it.
Speaker 2: I thought though I would be so hungry, but because
Speaker 2: you're so sick, you don't even think about food for
Speaker 2: a second, which is very unlike me. But it just doesn't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it doesn't even register because you just feel so crappy.
Speaker 2: And the reason I went in to have these procedures
Speaker 2: was because my doctors just wanted to confirm that it is,
Speaker 2: in fact my MS that is slowing down the signals,
Speaker 2: the messages from my brain to my gut and my bows,
Speaker 2: which is slowing my digestion and making me quite unwell.
Speaker 2: A lot of the time I was hoping they might
Speaker 2: go in there and find an easy fix. You know,
Speaker 2: oh you can't, you know, as an intolerance. Don't eat
Speaker 2: this or don't eat that. But no, they confirmed what
Speaker 2: I was hoping they wouldn't, which is, yes, it's your MS.
Speaker 2: So let's just, you know, let's just keep on doing
Speaker 2: what we're doing and try new things and hope for
Speaker 2: the best.
Speaker 1: So so disheartening for you, yeah too, because yeah, it's
Speaker 1: disappointing while we were talking and going because you have
Speaker 1: such hectic tummy issues, which feeling nauseous is the pits.
Speaker 1: I actually would take migraines over feeling, would you, Actually
Speaker 1: I would because occasionally when I feel really nauseous, it's
Speaker 1: so it's such a hideous, hideous feeling where you think
Speaker 1: you're going to vomit or you just it's awful, which
Speaker 1: you deal with the majority of the time, which yeah,
Speaker 1: awful for you. But we were talking saying, maybe it's
Speaker 1: your MS. Sorry, maybe it's your ENDO, and that's why
Speaker 1: your tummy is really funny. You get really bloated where
Speaker 1: you literally look like you're nine months pregnant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wild, Yeah, it's crazy. I have like a whole
Speaker 2: other wardrobe of clothes for when I have these flare ups,
Speaker 2: you know, but today's a good day. It's been a
Speaker 2: good few days. So when that happens, I just try
Speaker 2: and hold on to it and take advantage of it
Speaker 2: and pray hope. But you know, it's also like that
Speaker 2: thing where you you're scared to do anything different than
Speaker 2: what you norm to do because you don't want to
Speaker 2: You don't want to cause do anything that might cause
Speaker 2: it or trigger it, even though it's nothing that you
Speaker 2: can do. But that's just the way our mind works.
Speaker 1: The anxiety around it. Gone, Yeah, when's this? You know
Speaker 1: what's going to happen here? And so what do they say?
Speaker 1: So it's just trying another medication.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've started a new medication. So we'll give that
Speaker 2: a month or two to see if it does you know,
Speaker 2: if it does help. If not, we try something else,
Speaker 2: and we just keep on trying things until something hopefully helps.
Speaker 2: But you just don't know. It's hard to have hope
Speaker 2: because I've already tried so many things much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's so hard because everything takes so long. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, oh, this will take six weeks
Speaker 1: before you know a difference, and it's like, okay, so
Speaker 1: you just have to suffer through those.
Speaker 2: Six weeks exactly exactly. It's fun, isn't it.
Speaker 1: It's fun.
Speaker 2: It's so much fun. It's fully sun. We go to
Speaker 2: a listener question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is from Kate.
Speaker 2: Here we go, Hi Kate.
Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, thank you for doing this pod.
Speaker 1: I relate to everything you say. And Kate, that's exactly
Speaker 1: why we are doing this. I really struggle getting told
Speaker 1: I look fine all the time because people don't see
Speaker 1: what the reality is when I'm behind when I'm behind
Speaker 1: closed doors. Do you find this as well? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean it's like you at the barbecue
Speaker 2: on Saturday, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's tricky because it's a hard question to answ because
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people who have an illness
Speaker 2: or disability feel like it invalidates and undermines the way
Speaker 2: they feel. You also don't want someone to tell you
Speaker 2: that you look like a piece of crapy.
Speaker 1: I'm not win for ye either the person to you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I said to a girlfriend,
Speaker 1: I've been in bed for six days. She's like, I
Speaker 1: saw when I saw you, you looked so good. And
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, because I'm out of the When
Speaker 1: I'm out of the house and out of bed, I
Speaker 1: will put on clothes. I mean they might be trackies,
Speaker 1: but they might be cool trackies and I will maybe
Speaker 1: put on the skarah and then that makes me look
Speaker 1: like a whole other person. But if you had peered
Speaker 1: into my bed the day before, it would have looked
Speaker 1: like I was dying. Yeah, it's hard because it invalidates
Speaker 1: the pain that you've been through. Yes, so you do
Speaker 1: want to hear that you look good.
Speaker 2: At the same time, yes, yeah, you feel like they're
Speaker 2: dismissing how you feel. But at the same time, I
Speaker 2: don't know if you find this, but I find that
Speaker 2: when I'm feeling good and someone says, oh, you look well,
Speaker 2: it doesn't bother me. I'm like, great, thank you. You know,
Speaker 2: I'll take it. I'll take that win. But then when
Speaker 2: it's taken every single ounce of you to get to
Speaker 2: the supermarket or school pickup or wherever it is that
Speaker 2: someone you know saw you and said, oh you, it
Speaker 2: looks like you look great. It's so hard because you think,
Speaker 2: oh my god, like if you just knew. But they're
Speaker 2: not doing it to be unkind. You know, they're doing
Speaker 2: it to be kind and supportive.
Speaker 1: So I hate doing something like you. I can tell
Speaker 1: when I look good too, like, yeah, yeah, totally, I'm pretty.
Speaker 1: I'm not you know. And the thing is that when
Speaker 1: I feel like shit and I'm coming a bit good,
Speaker 1: I put on fake tan too. It's my one thing
Speaker 1: that I get to and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to look like death if I have
Speaker 1: a bit of.
Speaker 2: Tan on or do you know what? Actually, this reminds
Speaker 2: me of something when I was when I had my
Speaker 2: first child, Eatie, so almost ten years ago, I was
Speaker 2: in hospital and it was in subber so I had
Speaker 2: a bit of you know, I had a bit of
Speaker 2: a tan going on. And after I had her, I
Speaker 2: was so so unwell, Like the fatigue was just I
Speaker 2: knew it wasn't normal. Like I couldn't make it from
Speaker 2: like the bed in the hospital to the bathroom to
Speaker 2: brush my teeth without like being out of breath, needing
Speaker 2: to stop. I couldn't like the motion of brushing my
Speaker 2: teeth was so exhausting, and I knew that there was
Speaker 2: something wrong. And I remember saying to my obstetrician, I'm
Speaker 2: not okay, something doesn't feel right, and he said, oh,
Speaker 2: you've just had a baby. Your far you know that's
Speaker 2: you know, you're tired. You've had a baby. And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: look I get that, but there's something other than that,
Speaker 2: because I'm pretty sure most people have a baby and
Speaker 2: they can get up and brush their teeth, like I
Speaker 2: feel like I can't move.
Speaker 1: And he just kept this.
Speaker 2: We had this conversation maybe two or three times, and
Speaker 2: at one point he said, oh, well you look great.
Speaker 2: Look you've got great color. You look really great.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And he just kept dismissing me. And then one of
Speaker 2: the nurses said, no, darling, I see you, I hear you.
Speaker 2: We're going to get this test done when he leaves,
Speaker 2: just to make sure everything's okay.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And she did that. She's a beautiful, beautiful, amazing woman.
Speaker 2: And I and I saw her so many times after
Speaker 2: I had ebe actually like because we lived in the
Speaker 2: same area, and I just was so grateful for her.
Speaker 2: And so they did these tests and then they said, oh, actually, no,
Speaker 2: you're not okay. And I had to have three blood transfusions.
Speaker 2: But he was prepared just to let me, you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because I had a turn, because well, I must be okay.
Speaker 2: Then if I've got a whacking that, yeah, it does
Speaker 2: make you feel good. It does does the world of good.
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure if we're helping you at.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, but I do feel you it's hard. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I also had, you know, Sam gets it a
Speaker 1: lot where it's like, oh, yeah, I saw a MONTI
Speaker 1: she looked great, and he's like, she's at home and
Speaker 1: hasn't moved, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just that must be really hard for him,
Speaker 2: for him too to hear that total Yeah, And I
Speaker 2: think it's okay, Kate to say if someone says to
Speaker 2: you when you're having a rough day or off week, year,
Speaker 2: whatever it might be, if someone says, oh, but you
Speaker 2: don't look sick or you look great, I think it's
Speaker 2: okay to say, oh, thanks but you know it's taken
Speaker 2: so much to get me here, or thanks, but I'm
Speaker 2: a hot mess under this nice outfit, or you know whatever,
Speaker 2: whatever it might be. But I think it's okay to
Speaker 2: say that. But also just to keep in mind, no
Speaker 2: one is doing it to hurt your feelings. They're just
Speaker 2: trying to be nice and make you feel good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Chuck, let's get out here. Everyone. Thank
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