Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Can I please this is my final
Speaker 1: MAPS related interview.
Speaker 2: What sort of villain gets that Australia's reactions that's the floor, Broc.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of namor and they never got it.
Speaker 3: It just went nuts.
Speaker 2: Special announcement.
Speaker 4: It's another episode of Back to Reality and I was
Speaker 4: earlier than Selena to the studio today once one.
Speaker 2: What's up.
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 5: I'm like excited for this episode because the last episode,
Speaker 5: Guys was very unhinged.
Speaker 3: I love it, though.
Speaker 5: I wonder if today's guests will be doing the same
Speaker 5: and bringing the same energy. Oh my god, we have
Speaker 5: Timothy from this year's mass I cannot wait to chat
Speaker 5: to him.
Speaker 3: I reckon I judged him too soon.
Speaker 2: I can say the same as well.
Speaker 4: I can say the same as we I think I
Speaker 4: was also judging him as well, like as a partner
Speaker 4: in a relationship that we speak lating on instead of
Speaker 4: just looking at him from like an individual standpoint, if
Speaker 4: that makes sense. And I think they're more like that.
Speaker 4: Actually got to know Tim as a person just through
Speaker 4: the show and everything that he's been through, Like I
Speaker 4: actually have a lot.
Speaker 5: Of respect from Yeah, there are a lot of layers
Speaker 5: to this man. So we've got a lot to get
Speaker 5: into today.
Speaker 4: Come on now, without further ado, Man, let's get into it.
Speaker 4: We're recording on Galligle Land Strap of seats in Let's go.
Speaker 4: Everybody helped me welk him.
Speaker 3: To finally he's going, this is so.
Speaker 2: Crazy, got him in the studio.
Speaker 1: Matt.
Speaker 5: First of all, I want to apologize because one of
Speaker 5: our first I guess Mass twenty twenty four episode were
Speaker 5: related episode. We did like our predictions right, And when
Speaker 5: I saw your photo pop up for the first time,
Speaker 5: I said.
Speaker 1: I'm really curious.
Speaker 5: I said, Tim's giving me dodgy car salesman's vibes, like
Speaker 5: he could sell ice.
Speaker 3: To an Eskimo. Look at it.
Speaker 1: And when I said, when I seen her years ago,
Speaker 1: I had a little bit of a crush on her
Speaker 1: and I felt bad for her. And then she sees
Speaker 1: me and goes dodgy castiles man.
Speaker 5: And I don't know if you watched the season before,
Speaker 5: do you remember Dan? Yes, that was naturally Sandy.
Speaker 3: I was like, he's giving Dan two point.
Speaker 5: And I was like, when I started watching the show,
Speaker 5: I turned to so bad.
Speaker 3: So I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: To have to steak to the heart rate.
Speaker 1: I didn't see the episode, and I'm like slimy castles.
Speaker 2: From dodgy to slavery. They just took it out.
Speaker 1: You know, I heard a thing on the radio once
Speaker 1: because I didn't say real estate that well, so that
Speaker 1: your local sex worker is more trusted than your local
Speaker 1: real estate agent. You know, it's on track. You know.
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm going to use that information somewhere somehow. We're
Speaker 2: gonna have to find a way. So like you just
Speaker 2: flew in this morning, run, I flew in this morning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. Good, it was good. I've flown and
Speaker 1: actually pick up my car as well. So it's it's
Speaker 1: too long. It was Actually it worked out really really well.
Speaker 1: Broke down last time I was here in Sydney. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, the Queen saying, last time I was in
Speaker 1: Sydney and broke down. Yeah, I drove my new Raptor
Speaker 1: into a river.
Speaker 2: How do you do that?
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't think it was as deep as what
Speaker 1: it was, and it turns out it's pretty deep. I
Speaker 1: cooked the engine even though it's only six months old.
Speaker 4: So hey man, you know what, there's some things that
Speaker 4: I feel like happened for a reason.
Speaker 2: True, because if that didn't happen, maybe we wouldn't have you.
Speaker 1: Right now, you're right here, man, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for coming through. Man, this is beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's good. I've always I've always enjoyed watching look, watching
Speaker 1: the little the clips and so yeah, I've always Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys had a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, man.
Speaker 5: And I know this is legit because out of the
Speaker 5: whole cast this year, Tim's the only one that legit
Speaker 5: followed me.
Speaker 4: Wow, man, come on there you go. Yeah, that's these
Speaker 4: volumes right there.
Speaker 5: And I didn't realize until we met because we met
Speaker 5: for the first time at the viewing party.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, why can't I tag everyone else? I can
Speaker 5: only tag Timothy, like what's going on? And I realized
Speaker 5: because we were already following each other, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think it's always like very very weird, like in
Speaker 4: between that space of you know, people just come from
Speaker 4: a show and it's like the podcast people like trying
Speaker 4: to get you on the show, like you just like yeah, yeah, man,
Speaker 4: like I just need a little bit of time to
Speaker 4: cool off a little bit.
Speaker 2: But you know, like we just really relaxed, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like you know.
Speaker 1: Well, I have had the I have had the fortune
Speaker 1: and misfortune of daling with the podcast world. It seems
Speaker 1: to be a very it seems to be a really
Speaker 1: what am I trying to say? Competitive world? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Political?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems to be very political here in Australia.
Speaker 4: Say that, like you're saying that we're competing with some
Speaker 4: people that you're on leg or what you're saying to look.
Speaker 1: I like, I like everybody, you know, I take everyone
Speaker 1: on face value until you pissed me off. Then we
Speaker 1: got a problem.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what we love about you, though. Has there
Speaker 5: been anyone in particular that's really pissed you off? And
Speaker 5: you're like, bro, I haven't even met you yet and
Speaker 5: you're already you know, sh what was it pissing in
Speaker 5: my corn flakes? Has anyone pissed on your corn flakes yet?
Speaker 1: In the podcast?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, for you know, I have been uninvited
Speaker 1: to a few things. You know, I would say that,
Speaker 1: I would say one podcast has decided not to have
Speaker 1: me on.
Speaker 3: Why would they not have you on?
Speaker 1: Because I've already done another podcast? So it just seems
Speaker 1: to be that I heard them the other day talking
Speaker 1: about like look, I understand it's reality TV. You know,
Speaker 1: we're all built on a character that is essentially us.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so are.
Speaker 5: You saying these are other low mass contestants that have
Speaker 5: their own podcast.
Speaker 1: I would say that, I would say, And normally I don't,
Speaker 1: to be honest, I watched the highlight reels on TikTok,
Speaker 1: but I don't actually get really I don't actually get
Speaker 1: stuck into I don't watch the full episodes of it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But of course Jackie Boy
Speaker 1: was on it, so I had to. I had to.
Speaker 1: And I did see them sort of leaning more towards
Speaker 1: maybe since they found out that I did something else,
Speaker 1: they must be he leaned a little more towards the
Speaker 1: edit of jack Favor over me. But you know, I don't.
Speaker 1: This is what I figure. You know, I went through,
Speaker 1: or we all went through the twelve weeks of hell
Speaker 1: where it could be called survivor or lasting. That's what
Speaker 1: married at first Sight should be, Renea. And you know,
Speaker 1: this is our time, this is our time. So you know,
Speaker 1: I like to talk to you know, I'll talk to
Speaker 1: anyone and everyone, and that's just how it is. And
Speaker 1: you know, don't like it? Yeah too bad, so sad.
Speaker 4: Look man, regardless, like we're still very grateful they actually
Speaker 4: took the time to come on here though, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, I appreciate it. It's yeah, and we've caught up
Speaker 1: a couple of times and different events, and and I've seen,
Speaker 1: like I said, I've seen the highlights, and you too
Speaker 1: have got a great energy man, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, energy is our currency man speaking about energy man, Honestly,
Speaker 4: I think it's actually so interesting, you know, being uh,
Speaker 4: you know, like in this presence right now, like where
Speaker 4: we have people that we've seen on TV and the
Speaker 4: energy just doesn't quite match, but you are actually exactly
Speaker 4: how I saw you on TV. I ain't got Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was like, I wonder how it's going to be
Speaker 4: like when I see you in person. But honestly, this
Speaker 4: is great because there are a lot of people that
Speaker 4: actually play roles, you know what I'm saying, or like
Speaker 4: they've seen the show a little bit beforehand and they
Speaker 4: see a character that they want to be like, but
Speaker 4: not you were. Genuinely You've actually come on and you
Speaker 4: were one hundred percent yourself and right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I appreciate, Well, it wasn't I couldn't act.
Speaker 1: And I think I've said this before, but me and
Speaker 1: Lou did have a deal, and everyone goes, oh, you
Speaker 1: had a deal. And the deal was that we wouldn't
Speaker 1: talk after We wouldn't talk after we went to the
Speaker 1: commitment or or or the dinner party the next morning,
Speaker 1: before the camera coup got there, because I can't act,
Speaker 1: and most probably whatever I'm going to say, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what we're going to say, I'm not sure. So
Speaker 1: I would leave and go to the gym and go
Speaker 1: for breakfast, and then the crew would call me up
Speaker 1: and say we're ready, and they would let me do that.
Speaker 1: They would they would wait till the last minute. I'd
Speaker 1: walk upstairs, we'd sit down, she'd ask me how the
Speaker 1: gym was or how breakfast was, and then we'd go,
Speaker 1: so what do you think about last night? And say
Speaker 1: everything had to be just straight off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We never had a debrief at all. We never
Speaker 1: even asked each other what what was said in boxes?
Speaker 1: It was all not one time, even when she was
Speaker 1: pissed off or I was pissed off, we never ever
Speaker 1: spoke about one boxy, what did you say or did
Speaker 1: you nothing?
Speaker 5: Ever yeah, wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: What do you guys talk about?
Speaker 1: Then we would talk, But when it comes to sort
Speaker 1: of those dinner parties, well yeah, I mean you've been
Speaker 1: on the show. Sometimes you debrief and then you get
Speaker 1: the first out and then the crew comes in and
Speaker 1: then you you've got to do it again. But the
Speaker 1: first it's reality TV. The second take is never going
Speaker 1: to be yeah, first take, yeah, true, Yeah, very interesting minute.
Speaker 5: Yeah that makes sense because Cody hated doing that, so
Speaker 5: it's fake.
Speaker 3: It's fake. I'm like, dude, it's not fake, it's it's TV.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Because I think Benny Boy, Benny Boy tried to control
Speaker 1: the narrative, okay, and and he tried to just script
Speaker 1: what he was going to say, and that's why it
Speaker 1: just comes off. That's why you just see these long
Speaker 1: rants where he instead of just being you, it's just
Speaker 1: the long and he's looking for the words. Just use
Speaker 1: words that you understand.
Speaker 5: So do you think a Hamra he was having a
Speaker 5: different conversation with Ellie versus when the cameras were on.
Speaker 3: Is that what you mean?
Speaker 1: I believe? So really.
Speaker 4: Talking about social media? Actually I actually want to go
Speaker 4: to that. How has it been like getting your social
Speaker 4: media back.
Speaker 1: Well, we all went a little bit rugue this year.
Speaker 3: I know you did. You made a TikTok as well,
Speaker 3: we all did.
Speaker 1: I was, I was most pretty fourth in line. I
Speaker 1: was watching Lawrence, then I was watching Sarah's. Then I
Speaker 1: see Tristan popped off. And my first TikTok had ninety
Speaker 1: five followers. So it's not like and so I thought,
Speaker 1: we're four weeks out. I've seen everyone else doing. All
Speaker 1: I did was made of TikTok and then me walking,
Speaker 1: you know, walking on the beach and yeah, so that
Speaker 1: we got Insta back yesterday. Yeah, I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's I'm not that great on social media. I'm trying to.
Speaker 5: He's been humble, guys. He's like one of his TikTok
Speaker 5: has blown up to like one point five million views. Yeah,
Speaker 5: what what what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: You know that great?
Speaker 1: What you're talking about?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not really that great. You know, it's just
Speaker 2: a little but you know yourself. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I think that's what social media needs a little bit more.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Content is aa every time
Speaker 2: we don't know what the fuck is real normal.
Speaker 1: Apparently I spelt something wrong this morning and and and
Speaker 1: Louis sent me a message and said I spelt something
Speaker 1: wrong in the in the caption and I'm like, ah,
Speaker 1: fuck it. They got it was. Look, it was. It
Speaker 1: was obviously about that about Keegan that caught the million
Speaker 1: dollar fish and pretty hot topic, and it was it was.
Speaker 1: It was an awesome sort of story for Australia, and
Speaker 1: I think it was an awesome story for indigenous kids
Speaker 1: in the North. I think I think the whole thing
Speaker 1: you could just see it was just one of those
Speaker 1: after what happened in Sydney two weeks ago and just
Speaker 1: everything that's happened, it was one of those. This fishing
Speaker 1: competition has been going for nine years, so it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: And this kid won a million bucks, caught a fish,
Speaker 1: and Sky News and Pete stephan Avik thought that, you know,
Speaker 1: they would they would take a couple of cheap shots
Speaker 1: at something he did five years ago when he was fourteen. Well,
Speaker 1: you know when you first get into TV or you're
Speaker 1: on a reality show, that it's quite intimidating when you're
Speaker 1: first in front of a TV camera and you could
Speaker 1: first go to a studio so I imagine Northern Territory
Speaker 1: and Tigan by being on National TV. It was a
Speaker 1: big deal. It was a big deal for him, his family,
Speaker 1: his community, and to have somebody take a cheap shot
Speaker 1: at him. So I just thought I'd fire one across
Speaker 1: the bow, which was I knew peaked twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: And we got up to a little bit of shit ourself,
Speaker 1: and so you know you shouldn't. You shouldn't throw stones
Speaker 1: when you live in glasshouses. True, and we're all not perfect. Clearly,
Speaker 1: I've admitted I'm not perfect. I know I made some
Speaker 1: stupid decisions. I know he made some stupid decisions, but
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think it's right too, especially
Speaker 1: when that's sort of what my whole point was is
Speaker 1: when I seen that every other journalist in Australia treated
Speaker 1: Keegan with nothing but respect and was happy to see
Speaker 1: this one person which look to be honest. I didn't
Speaker 1: have a beef before. Yeah, mostly you don't have a
Speaker 1: beef now. But clean your shit up, man, don't just
Speaker 1: take those cheap shots. Because I've started to see a
Speaker 1: little bit and it's kind of like m Owen, It's
Speaker 1: not it's not the way.
Speaker 5: To go now, just going back quickly to making mistakes
Speaker 5: and you're past I just want to address because you
Speaker 5: had or have a criminal record, which I was a
Speaker 5: bit like shook her when I saw the current affair.
Speaker 1: I shook, I felt, But like, were you.
Speaker 3: Ever scared that that was going to come out whilst
Speaker 3: you were filming?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I was a bit. I was a little
Speaker 1: bit worried. It was sixteen years ago. I was definitely
Speaker 1: what I was worried. Yeah, because they did and in
Speaker 1: defensive marrit at first sight in channel nine, they do
Speaker 1: background checks. And you can call me wrong for not
Speaker 1: stating what I had. And this is where I don't
Speaker 1: care in the sense I made a mistake. I paid
Speaker 1: for it. I paid the ultimate price. Yeah, and if
Speaker 1: anyone's in the current affair, I don't take it lightly.
Speaker 1: I don't take it as a joke. Yeah. I mostly
Speaker 1: won't get into it here, just because I still paid
Speaker 1: the price. Today and you are, after ten years eligible
Speaker 1: for a marijuana for a pardon, you can apply, and
Speaker 1: I am actually eligible for that. I just haven't applied.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to move on with life.
Speaker 3: How long were you in prison?
Speaker 1: For about a year and a half. Total okay, which
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a long time.
Speaker 3: A lot of stuff happened to you, like personally, which.
Speaker 1: Person personally, my world just turned upside down and got out.
Speaker 1: It was just complete upside down. And yeah, I can't
Speaker 1: even describe what it was like for the time that
Speaker 1: I was locked up and then coming back and then
Speaker 1: because the States deported me back to here, and then
Speaker 1: I went back to Canada and lived my life for
Speaker 1: another eight almost ten years, and then I got deported
Speaker 1: again because then Canada found out. And then it just
Speaker 1: it seems to just roll on and you just keep
Speaker 1: paying over and over for something, which I think is
Speaker 1: a bit of bullshit, because there are good people that
Speaker 1: just make a mistake once. Yeah, my total time in
Speaker 1: that world was about three months. Was total time. Wow,
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like I was this big time that
Speaker 1: went on for years and years. But I did start
Speaker 1: at the top of the food chain, meaning you know,
Speaker 1: I just jumped in a helicopter. And yeah, the first
Speaker 1: time I ever seen weed was in bundles.
Speaker 5: And correct me if I'm wrong, But I remember listening
Speaker 5: to a radio segment of yours and you said that
Speaker 5: you didn't actually know how to drive a plane, but
Speaker 5: you learnt off YouTube.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't know how to fly hell cop it
Speaker 1: was a helicopter because I've got a land in trees,
Speaker 1: so it was full on two oh six jet Ranger helicopter.
Speaker 3: Do you know how to fly an aircraft? Period?
Speaker 1: I don't. I know. I can fly. I can fly.
Speaker 1: I flew that obviously. I flew that helicopter quite a bit,
Speaker 1: and it's pretty advanced rock and helicopter I took. I
Speaker 1: took about five hours of lessons, but I really I
Speaker 1: had a I had a game that I was also learning,
Speaker 1: like like a stimulation like a simulation game, and I
Speaker 1: was watching YouTube a lot or watching videos just on
Speaker 1: how to operate one how to like how to how
Speaker 1: the startup and everything goes, just to just to bring
Speaker 1: them up to speed.
Speaker 3: Because don't do this at home.
Speaker 1: Lessons lessons weren't going as fast as what we needed
Speaker 1: to move. So after about five hours, I had to
Speaker 1: go pick the helicopterp I'd never flown solo. The helicopter
Speaker 1: that we purchased was ready to be picked up, and
Speaker 1: then when I went and seen it, I was going
Speaker 1: to get a pilot to pick it up. Somebody knew
Speaker 1: how to fly it. Yeah, And then they said, oh,
Speaker 1: it's ready to be picked up, and I went. I
Speaker 1: went out to my friend in the car and said, look,
Speaker 1: they want me to pick up the helicopter. What do
Speaker 1: I do? And he goes, what do you want to do?
Speaker 1: And I said, I don't know. Give me the bag
Speaker 1: in the back seat. It was my gym bag. And
Speaker 1: he said, what's with the bag? And I said, well,
Speaker 1: whenever I go to the airport I see the pilots
Speaker 1: pulling a bag, I'll take a bag with me like
Speaker 1: it had nothing, just to look like I knew what
Speaker 1: I was doing. Threw the bag on the back seat
Speaker 1: and if iired that thing up.
Speaker 3: You know that movie is it? Catch Me? If you
Speaker 3: can with now the DiCaprio, This is what that's giving me.
Speaker 1: I kind of. I started in bartending because I couldn't
Speaker 1: construction work wouldn't last in North America over the winter.
Speaker 1: So I started in bartending. And I made up a
Speaker 1: bit of a fake resume to get a job in
Speaker 1: a bar. And then the first day bartending, they're asking
Speaker 1: for cocktails and I have know what to do, but
Speaker 1: I managed to fake my way into it.
Speaker 3: Your life is literally about moving.
Speaker 4: It's really just been It's almost like learning a new
Speaker 4: language whilest speaking it right.
Speaker 1: I've got a job in the minds driving those trucks.
Speaker 1: When I was like seventeen, I I didn't know how.
Speaker 2: To do it.
Speaker 1: My grandfather just said telling me your truck tell him.
Speaker 1: And then I got a job driving those big trucks,
Speaker 1: but have never actually driven one. And I just remember
Speaker 1: my first shift going, I'm going to kill somebody in
Speaker 1: this thing, and you just got to figure it out
Speaker 1: since I sweat.
Speaker 3: Man, you've got some big owners. I'll be too scared.
Speaker 1: I do, and a very little brain.
Speaker 4: Now you got some big brains to be flying a
Speaker 4: helicopter only five hours of Learningie, that's that is crazy.
Speaker 4: But we brought you in to talk about maths. I
Speaker 4: don't even have interest talking about maths nor math.
Speaker 3: You have stories.
Speaker 2: We have like a three episode series.
Speaker 1: I know it's I guess nobody else in mass has
Speaker 1: got the backstore.
Speaker 3: We haven't had a criminal yet.
Speaker 1: Right, there's a few different podcasts I could go on.
Speaker 2: This is the first thing that the last word you
Speaker 2: had a golody Well's come back give around to you.
Speaker 5: But do you think like if I don't know, if
Speaker 5: it did get leaked, like if nine found out and
Speaker 5: it was a part of the storyline, did you think
Speaker 5: you were going to be perceived as a villain if
Speaker 5: this was leaked?
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I told the cinder on day two, oh lo knew,
Speaker 1: who knew? We knew the whole time. I want to
Speaker 1: be I want to be up front. I made a
Speaker 1: distinct decision when I when I did it, that it
Speaker 1: was it was marijuana at the time, which I'm not
Speaker 1: dismissing in any way that it was still illegal to do,
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to be straight up. And then
Speaker 1: a couple of days later, when we got back for Moneymoon,
Speaker 1: I said to you sure, She said, Look, it was
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. By there, you know, we'd had a
Speaker 1: couple of days and she got to know me and
Speaker 1: realize that sometimes decent people just make a stupid mistake. Yeah.
Speaker 5: But I feel like with math and the production, they
Speaker 5: can swish the narrative wherever they kind of want, Like
Speaker 5: that could have.
Speaker 3: Been so easy for them to be like villain bad man.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: You weren't that thought never came to your head?
Speaker 1: No, I never I never thought of production as a
Speaker 1: villain of this or that or whatever. I think. I
Speaker 1: think you are just who you are, really, yeah, I
Speaker 1: really really do. You can't make somebody say something, do something,
Speaker 1: or be who they're not if you're a shitty person
Speaker 1: at the core of who you are, you're a shitty person,
Speaker 1: you know. True. Some of the people that have said
Speaker 1: some of the things on the show, Okay, let's let's
Speaker 1: just get stuck.
Speaker 3: Into it, you know, Jackie boy, yep.
Speaker 1: The way or comment was that the side of the
Speaker 1: house with Tristan for half the day, we're just talking
Speaker 1: about insecurities, body image, and you know, I talked about
Speaker 1: the fact that I dyslexia as a kid and always
Speaker 1: got embarrassed like spelling or reading in front of people
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. So we all have these insecurities.
Speaker 1: And I guess body, you know, that was his trigger.
Speaker 1: I told him my trigger, and I said, you know,
Speaker 1: we've all got something, We've all got an achilles heel there.
Speaker 1: But jack said what he said, And if you watch
Speaker 1: after the show, and I haven't actually said this as well,
Speaker 1: I see that him and Harrison have hooked up and
Speaker 1: they made a comment on their Instagram like the whales
Speaker 1: are out in town. So the fact of the matter
Speaker 1: is you don't give a shit that you only apologized
Speaker 1: because you got called out. If you didn't get called out,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't apologize. So it's kind of like the muzzle
Speaker 1: comment if you watched it, if you watch after it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said it, and I'm glad I said it. It
Speaker 1: felt good to say it. See, you only apologized on
Speaker 1: the couch because you're getting called out. You only you
Speaker 1: only you only bought that that bullshit fucking supplement. Whatever
Speaker 1: you want to say because you're getting called out. Pete
Speaker 1: Stefanovic only issued an apology because he got called out. Yep,
Speaker 1: don't be a fucking shitty person, and you won't have
Speaker 1: to get called out. If you want to call me
Speaker 1: out about some behavior I've done, all hats off to you.
Speaker 1: If I've done something, call me out to me.
Speaker 5: It seems like you just never liked him from the start.
Speaker 5: Were there other things off camera from the start that
Speaker 5: you saw of Jack that you were just like, I'm
Speaker 5: not about this man at all. I don't trust you,
Speaker 5: I don't like you.
Speaker 1: We snuck out, We snuck out all the boys snuck
Speaker 1: out for a beer in the first week, Dan BONDEI
Speaker 1: and as Jack says, we had bro time. We had
Speaker 1: bro time. But it's it's also it's also the way
Speaker 1: you know him and him and I walking up and
Speaker 1: he was showing you pictures of his X on his phone,
Speaker 1: and this is week one.
Speaker 3: So saying, what though, I look how hot she was?
Speaker 1: What So you're making all your mistakes mate, in the
Speaker 1: first week. And and I actually don't want to get
Speaker 1: into it because I don't want to bury him that hard,
Speaker 1: believe it or not. But some of the narratives that
Speaker 1: he was using in that conversation that we had in
Speaker 1: week one actually bothered me a bit. Yeah, we got
Speaker 1: into some pretty topics just the master voice, okay, And
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say it on here.
Speaker 3: Wow that bad.
Speaker 1: Hey, It's just there's there's a way you can say things,
Speaker 1: and there's a way that you can you can put it,
Speaker 1: and sometimes that can be from my point, even just
Speaker 1: it's a little you're a little bit concerning, and I
Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't hang around you outside of the experiment. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: it's not that. And then and then it just piled
Speaker 1: on obviously, I was very quiet in the first inner party.
Speaker 1: It was the article that came out, and then I
Speaker 1: see in an article the other day he said, you know,
Speaker 1: I addressed it all in that article and everyone was
Speaker 1: very very receptive of it. Jackie used a lot of
Speaker 1: long words, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't know the
Speaker 1: fucking meaning to so he just said it was addressed.
Speaker 1: In the first one. Toryus pissed off that it kept
Speaker 1: coming up because huge red flags. You know, you're applying
Speaker 1: for a marriage show while you got a girlfriend, So.
Speaker 3: Are they actually were still together?
Speaker 1: Well, it came out like John said, John in the
Speaker 1: first one said, hang in a second, the dates aren't
Speaker 1: matching up. Here. You're saying that you were talking to us,
Speaker 1: but saying you had a girlfriend. So that was actually
Speaker 1: on the show, he admitted, Yep, I was seeing with somebody.
Speaker 1: Well that's shitty behavior.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that was just crazy to because you know
Speaker 4: a lot of people that have come on rigid than
Speaker 4: Ben like they seem to have a king to do
Speaker 4: and Colins too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, let's get stuck into it.
Speaker 2: What's your text on that? Like with there close on
Speaker 2: the show as well.
Speaker 1: I was pretty close to Ben. We caught up a
Speaker 1: few times for for for a beer off camera, and
Speaker 1: we just talked about it. And I talked to Ellie
Speaker 1: actually in the gym that she tried to She said, look,
Speaker 1: if Ben comes under fire, could you help him out?
Speaker 1: Which I said, no problem, so she she definitely had
Speaker 1: his back. Ben. I didn't rip into at all on
Speaker 1: the show. I will rip in post show because I
Speaker 1: just think he's trying to make a mountain out of
Speaker 1: a mole hill and become relevant. You're fifteen minutes of
Speaker 1: fame's over. Why pull somebody down. Ellie actually had his
Speaker 1: back on the show. I don't care what anyone says.
Speaker 1: Had he's back. I don't care what he says about
Speaker 1: John O. It's all bullshit. I don't believe a word
Speaker 1: out of his mouth.
Speaker 5: And again, are you referring to the TikTok war that's
Speaker 5: going on between JOHNO and Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's because me and Ben actually caught up in December.
Speaker 1: We caught up December after filming and I said, oh,
Speaker 1: are you seeing anyone? And he's he said, I was
Speaker 1: seeing somebody before the show, and then after the show
Speaker 1: he ended up looking back up with her.
Speaker 3: Oh he did not say that to us.
Speaker 2: Nobody taught us that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he said it was going through a rough time
Speaker 5: and then he was at a coffee shop and he
Speaker 5: bumped into her and he was like hey, and then
Speaker 5: things kicked off.
Speaker 1: Then it's not what he said to me. Interesting And Richard,
Speaker 1: you know, after the Bucks party. After the Bucks party,
Speaker 1: I read up on everybody, and I thought Richard would
Speaker 1: be fascinating to get to know. I understand. I did
Speaker 1: watch the little clips. Richard didn't have very nice things
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's not a tit for tat thing.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't really that intro. I found Richard a whining,
Speaker 1: perpetual child at sixty two. Sorry, but what.
Speaker 3: I say, he actually did own that.
Speaker 5: He knows he has his little tanty moments and he's
Speaker 5: working on it.
Speaker 3: What do you have to say about that.
Speaker 1: Well, fucking keep working, my friend, keep fucking working.
Speaker 5: Because I know you're really close with Andy now Andrea,
Speaker 5: which was his match.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: I'd say fifty percent of my friends at FEMA, I'd
Speaker 1: say I've got a fifty to fifty mix. And if
Speaker 1: I was out with a friend yesterday who was helping
Speaker 1: me set back up because I'm back my Instagram up
Speaker 1: because it wasn't working out with a friend of mine
Speaker 1: who's a really good looking girl who has a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: And if you've actually seen us in a coffee shop,
Speaker 1: you'd think some of the we're dating, but we're just mates.
Speaker 1: She's got a boyfriend. It's there's and me and Andy.
Speaker 1: She came and visited me. She was actually going down
Speaker 1: to see lou and she crashed at my place. Her
Speaker 1: and a daughter stayed in my room.
Speaker 3: I crashed on the couch with the doggies.
Speaker 1: And yeah, where were the dogs? I think I had
Speaker 1: cookie Matilda went Ston so and he's just got a
Speaker 1: great heart, a great soult And again she was all in.
Speaker 1: Richard's the one that fucked that up. I'm sorry. You
Speaker 1: can't use that terminology. If you really like somebody, you
Speaker 1: can't use that terminology. Yeah, I mean my face just
Speaker 1: dropped when he said it.
Speaker 5: Well, I definitely went in for that, And I think
Speaker 5: he knows where I'm coming from because I felt, yeah,
Speaker 5: the same was similar to where Andy was coming from.
Speaker 5: But I do have to commend you for not participan
Speaker 5: painting in the photo ranking challenge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a moron. I always said, that's a more
Speaker 1: on challenge. It's not a it's a moron if you
Speaker 1: do it. That's what it is. It's a complete moron
Speaker 1: challenge because here's the thing that everyone wants to bitch
Speaker 1: at production at. I said no, And guess.
Speaker 3: What, Yeah?
Speaker 5: Can I just ask, though, even though you didn't participate
Speaker 5: in the photo ranking challenge, out of all the brides
Speaker 5: this year, who would you have preferred to be matched with?
Speaker 1: Oh? I was joking the other day actually, and I was,
Speaker 1: I was on a different podcast, and I must it
Speaker 1: must be Ellie. But John. I got in there quick,
Speaker 1: too quick. And then I actually said Joe. I actually
Speaker 1: sent Ellie a message on a birthday and I said,
Speaker 1: is John fulfilling your needs sexually? But she had it
Speaker 1: on speaker phone. I said something else because I don't
Speaker 1: remember things that I say, but I had something really
Speaker 1: funny and they were in stitches and I stole that.
Speaker 1: I stole that from I stole that from Ryan Reynolds
Speaker 1: off the movie Switch when he comes in with his
Speaker 1: best mate and his best mate's there and the single
Speaker 1: guy comes in and he's gone, how's married life?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Good?
Speaker 1: And he goes, is he fulfilling your needs sexually and
Speaker 1: she's like too far. So now Ellie says that to me,
Speaker 1: like too far, Tim, way too far, because I stayed
Speaker 1: with them up on the Gold Coast. Beautiful. Nothing I
Speaker 1: do or say now surprises Ellie or surprised as John.
Speaker 1: It's pretty fun.
Speaker 4: Are you still close to Sarah and Lauren as well
Speaker 4: at the moment, because you guys seem to.
Speaker 1: Have like I was talking to both of them yesterday.
Speaker 4: Oh, they're like in real life, man, because I ain't
Speaker 4: got lady, you like seeing them on TV? Like, honestly,
Speaker 4: you guys had a great like literally it was like
Speaker 4: you know, Tim's angels like Charlie's angels saw it.
Speaker 1: Then we had a great time on the show. We
Speaker 1: had a great time. Obviously. I like people. You're on
Speaker 1: a show, and I remember in the debrief. I remember
Speaker 1: the debrief and this is what everyone, all the cast
Speaker 1: members will actually say that they wish they had have
Speaker 1: listened to, which was I remember Alex and Molly saying,
Speaker 1: leave nothing on the table, leave nothing unsaid, because you
Speaker 1: walk away from this experience and you'll go, shit, I
Speaker 1: wish I had I wish I had it. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so true don't you don't you wish you had have
Speaker 1: said a few I don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I walked away and just went so lucky.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: See yeah wow. Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was just like the way that you guys would
Speaker 4: just go away in your little corner and just like
Speaker 4: deep me about certain things.
Speaker 2: I was just like, man, this is like me and
Speaker 2: my friends.
Speaker 4: This is crazy and like the way that you guys
Speaker 4: all pulled up jack that time when you guys went
Speaker 4: to the retreat. To me, that was like, okay, it
Speaker 4: was genuinely like one of those nats that we are
Speaker 4: just have like with our friends.
Speaker 2: Did you realize that? Do you hear what? To me?
Speaker 2: You guys had a very interesting relationship. Do you guys
Speaker 2: do have that? No as well?
Speaker 1: Oh for sure? Obviously you know Sarah lives here, Lauren
Speaker 1: lives in Perth. I've been doing a bit of traveling
Speaker 1: at the moment. We haven't. I can't remember the last time.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the fifty and Whippid inners. Last time we've
Speaker 1: seen each other. We talk occasionally, We talk occasionally, and
Speaker 1: I have not like I had a great relationship with
Speaker 1: them on the show. I've got just the same off
Speaker 1: the show. Whatever again, I have no dog in certain fights,
Speaker 1: and that's that's the dog. I don't have a fight.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed John o' and Ellie I enjoy like Ben
Speaker 1: I mostly have an issue with because Ellie's actually a
Speaker 1: good person. You could have just sucked it up and said, hey,
Speaker 1: I fucked up and walk away. Richard could just I've
Speaker 1: seen a few comments where he said, ask Andy why
Speaker 1: we weren't featured on the fucking reunion, and it's like,
Speaker 1: it's not up to Andy, it's up there. It's up
Speaker 1: to Alex Molly, Like why I keep throwing her under
Speaker 1: the bus? You fucked up? What ain't just own shit?
Speaker 3: Was it a reason? Do you know the reason?
Speaker 1: Most pretty run out of time? I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's like.
Speaker 1: Jack at blame. Blame your best mate Jack. He had
Speaker 1: two fucking videos. You know, he had one video and
Speaker 1: then he had a second video that was Richard's time.
Speaker 1: You know, so good mate. Jack is the reason he
Speaker 1: wasn't featured. It had nothing to do with Andrea. And
Speaker 1: as for I did see a comment where he says
Speaker 1: the comment that brought the house down that was it
Speaker 1: was just lighthearted. It didn't mean anything. And that's when
Speaker 1: I think you've got a ton more work to do,
Speaker 1: because that's what finished it. So if you're now commenting
Speaker 1: and saying, oh, it was just a bit of fun
Speaker 1: and you haven't fucking learned anything from it, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like Harrison Jack and Tory standing there, guy and
Speaker 1: the wilds are out. He didn't learn anything from it.
Speaker 1: Here's still a fucking moron.
Speaker 4: Wow, come on now, speaking about learning from past mistakes.
Speaker 4: I don't know how true that story was about Jaden
Speaker 4: sleeping with his ex's best friend.
Speaker 1: Hey, I read it wrong. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: I thought I thought we were supposed to laugh after that.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie to you. We weren't laughing. We
Speaker 2: were speculating. We were like, came on the floor.
Speaker 4: We can believe it, really, I'm telling you, bro. And
Speaker 4: so you know now that all of the things had
Speaker 4: just come out like where we're like, oh, like do
Speaker 4: you actually write your own confessions? And all, like we
Speaker 4: were like just trying to decipher the whole thing because
Speaker 4: to me, like it didn't make no goddamn sense where
Speaker 4: you go on the show and then say something like
Speaker 4: that and your girl still stays but now they're not together.
Speaker 2: Anymore.
Speaker 1: Come on, Jaden should be happy he found one person
Speaker 1: to sleep with him. A lead line too, Oh do
Speaker 1: you like it?
Speaker 3: You never really seemed to like him.
Speaker 1: Hey, I feel big a toss that you couldn't find.
Speaker 3: Really, why do you say that?
Speaker 1: Just some day one he was like you could just
Speaker 1: see the way he walks around, and training was more
Speaker 1: important than the show. And again, they didn't beg us
Speaker 1: to come on the show. You actually begged them to
Speaker 1: come on the show. You filled in the applications, you
Speaker 1: got the test, you've done all the bat you've done
Speaker 1: all the paperwork to come on the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they didn't beg you. And then when you're
Speaker 1: on the show, you're walking around like you're King Dick.
Speaker 1: I would have well, I'm glad that you glad he started,
Speaker 1: But he got He got lucky on the edit because
Speaker 1: I saw through him from day one.
Speaker 3: Was he rude to the crew or anything, Well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think he thought he was filming, was
Speaker 1: going to start when he decided.
Speaker 3: Okay, so he was calling the shots.
Speaker 1: He's the man, he's the world champ.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what it did.
Speaker 4: Kind of seem like I was even telling my girl
Speaker 4: about this. I was like, it's just so weird, how
Speaker 4: like it almost seems like he wants to control the.
Speaker 2: Room, you know what I mean? Like, that's what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like that's what I said. Doing was like I kind
Speaker 2: of feel the same, but almost like.
Speaker 1: The way there's twenty seven and he lives at home.
Speaker 1: The fuck have you got to say to me?
Speaker 5: Well, I just remember Ella, who was on my season
Speaker 5: that was much with her brother, was saying the same
Speaker 5: thing about her brother.
Speaker 3: His brother.
Speaker 1: His true colors came out at home stay when him
Speaker 1: and Mitch were going, Oh, Eden's controlling. I've hung out
Speaker 1: with Eden since the since after the show. We've gone
Speaker 1: out to dinner a couple of times as a group.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Eden is Eden so lovely.
Speaker 1: He's just sweet. She's just Eden is Eden. What you
Speaker 1: see is what you get.
Speaker 3: You get that quiet yep.
Speaker 1: Jayden and Jaden and what's his brother's name, Mitch, mister unrelevant?
Speaker 1: Oh Mitch, that's it, Mick. Mitch an't give fuck. Oh
Speaker 1: my god.
Speaker 2: You don't give a fuck about it. You don't have
Speaker 2: a you don't care about.
Speaker 1: D do not give a ship.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: You can see the way they were talking about her
Speaker 1: at home state. They were setting that poor girl up
Speaker 1: to look like, oh, it was all her fault. He
Speaker 1: was trying to come off as I'm so badly damaged.
Speaker 1: He was this is and I know it might hurt Eden.
Speaker 1: He wasn't into her. He was just playing. He was
Speaker 1: playing the game. Really, that's the way you were just
Speaker 1: asking me how I saw it. That's all you're asking me,
Speaker 1: is that's the way I saw it. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like the latter when everyone's just sort of I sort
Speaker 1: of looked around and had this big grin. It's like,
Speaker 1: do we start laughing now? Because I actually thought it
Speaker 1: as a comedy. I thought I'm looking around at eighteen
Speaker 1: people going, you guys, or twenty people, you guys, don't
Speaker 1: believe this shit?
Speaker 3: Dude, see you think he made it up for airtime.
Speaker 1: I don't think he made it up one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I will put my last dollar on it. I will actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: one hand of sent he made it up? Are you kidding?
Speaker 1: It's like the tears that was all just squeezed out.
Speaker 2: Well, honestly, I.
Speaker 4: Can kind of see where it's coming from that because like,
Speaker 4: come on, if there's another bit too, like that really
Speaker 4: killed me? Where like he had to wait for that moment,
Speaker 4: you know, up until like everyone was done for him
Speaker 4: to say that I love you to you like that's
Speaker 4: something that's very intimate, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: that was very steege to me.
Speaker 1: You know, I've been cheated on, right, It's the most
Speaker 1: it's the most devastating, soul crushing thing from a miles
Speaker 1: point of view. And you're telling me world champ, you know,
Speaker 1: world champ kickboxing. You had eighteen people coming up saying
Speaker 1: they slept with your your girlfriend, and you didn't take
Speaker 1: somebody's head off. It doesn't add up. If you had
Speaker 1: three blokes come up and say to you, Hi, I
Speaker 1: slept with your girlfriend, and you go, oh, and you're
Speaker 1: the world champion of kickboxing. Are you saying you wouldn't
Speaker 1: take somebody's head off?
Speaker 2: I don't want to to jail to him.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it all just doesn't add up. I've
Speaker 1: only got to hear it once and I'm out the door.
Speaker 1: The whole story made no sense. I just thought he
Speaker 1: was writing a comic, a comedy.
Speaker 2: But why would you make that up? Though?
Speaker 1: That's something that's very like you've been kicked in the
Speaker 1: head too many times. That's why you fucking make it up.
Speaker 3: Poor Jaden.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Jesus, we want you to come out.
Speaker 2: We want to hear this shit it's true or not,
Speaker 2: because honestly, like.
Speaker 1: Even me, like his girlfriends come out and said it
Speaker 1: wasn't true. Wanted to linlight. I mean, it all starts
Speaker 1: to come out now that you know he made out
Speaker 1: with that girl from the previous.
Speaker 3: Season, Carolina from my season, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And sent the pictures in and tagged her in it
Speaker 1: and then tagged himself It's all true. It's all out there.
Speaker 1: So you wanted, you wanted, you wanted people to know,
Speaker 1: but you would eating somebody at that time. So his
Speaker 1: whole story was bullshit from start to finish.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to ask about Lou broke Man.
Speaker 4: We love Lou, but most important, we loved your guys's
Speaker 4: combination together, you know what I'm saying. I think the
Speaker 4: craziest thing for me was it was just almost like
Speaker 4: I felt like Lou was kind of making up how
Speaker 4: she was, like from the very moment that we saw
Speaker 4: her coming up to the wedding with the chicken wing
Speaker 4: and everything. But I was loving you coming to but
Speaker 4: it was just crazy to me because I was like,
Speaker 4: surely she's not like that the whole way, but.
Speaker 2: She never changed. I wanted to ask you, like, is
Speaker 2: she really liked that?
Speaker 1: That's that's one her. There was no acting gown on.
Speaker 2: That mellow chillers with cu Cup nothing.
Speaker 3: She's very eccentric and just very open spiritually.
Speaker 1: She's open.
Speaker 2: Tell us about Luke.
Speaker 1: Lou is exactly how you see Lou on screen is
Speaker 1: how she is off screen. There was no there was
Speaker 1: no acting. I pushed her, she pushed me. But people
Speaker 1: are saying I needed therapy, not a wife. What you
Speaker 1: didn't see a lot. What you didn't see a lot
Speaker 1: is we were actually having And I understand it's not
Speaker 1: friends at first sight, but let's let's face the hit
Speaker 1: rate ain't that good if you're you know, if you
Speaker 1: look at the ten eleven seasons, how many people stay together.
Speaker 1: But overall, we were actually having a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't restricting her in any way.
Speaker 3: Apart from the boob scene.
Speaker 1: Apart from her wearing the shirt and the boom. I'm
Speaker 1: just about to go on a weight loss program as
Speaker 1: a look at myself.
Speaker 2: Pist in the conflicts right up.
Speaker 1: You know, Patty's on the camera here, and it was
Speaker 1: just so tense in the room. And then as she
Speaker 1: went scoot and Beise went and you have boobs too,
Speaker 1: Patty's looking at me and just he was just just
Speaker 1: about to start laughing. And then I said, yeah, she
Speaker 1: really pissed in my corn flakes. And then I think
Speaker 1: he started shuddering the camera. That was pretty funny.
Speaker 3: It was hilarious.
Speaker 1: So overall we were having a good time. Now people say, oh,
Speaker 1: we should have left, we should have we should have
Speaker 1: done that, but then he would have been there to
Speaker 1: torment Jack.
Speaker 3: But that was my issue with this season. But I
Speaker 3: felt like there were a.
Speaker 5: Lot of friend zones and friendships, like the lack of
Speaker 5: intimacy bothered me a little bit.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I get it a.
Speaker 2: Lot more fucking. That's what. That's what. That's what I
Speaker 2: wanted to see.
Speaker 1: It's called porn hub. I will get you six monthscripts
Speaker 1: subscription and I'll send it to you.
Speaker 5: I wanted to see your brooms bounce off together, ship
Speaker 5: man pissing the conflicts again.
Speaker 2: Nah, but you like you have said that before. I
Speaker 2: guess like there was.
Speaker 1: Been a lot on this one. There wasn't I'll get it.
Speaker 5: I know you say about your self proclaimed tin men.
Speaker 5: But even when like she would come up and hug you,
Speaker 5: and I think one time when you were very vulnerable,
Speaker 5: like she went up and she kind of kissed you
Speaker 5: on the cheek and you kind of just sat there
Speaker 5: literally like a tin man robot, and you didn't know
Speaker 5: how to receive that effention.
Speaker 1: No, but a part of it also is they well
Speaker 1: you would know there's a question. And I actually talked
Speaker 1: to I talked to Kate about this, which was my.
Speaker 3: Producer, which was mine too.
Speaker 1: Kate shout out to Kate, Kate Seves. I talked to
Speaker 1: Kate and and a part of the process, you got
Speaker 1: to think they put a lot of time and effort
Speaker 1: into into the show itself. If you turn around and
Speaker 1: then the first and you don't see the person that
Speaker 1: you is, somebody who you'd normally date, you still willing
Speaker 1: to give it a go. You've got to answer yes
Speaker 1: to that. I don't care what anyone says. I think
Speaker 1: Tory said, if I don't get exactly what I want,
Speaker 1: I told him that I would walk in some part
Speaker 1: of that that application. That's bullshit because it's a very
Speaker 1: key question. So I sort of took that on board
Speaker 1: along with when I got debriefed at Channel nine about
Speaker 1: what to do or not not to do that if
Speaker 1: I turned around, it wasn't there that I would still
Speaker 1: give it, like give it some time rather than do
Speaker 1: a man ash and dash in the middle of the night. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's what we did. We did.
Speaker 5: He does even participate in the Intimacy Challenge week melting casting.
Speaker 5: Didn't you didn't even did you do the kissing one?
Speaker 1: No, we didn't. We didn't. We had the staring and
Speaker 1: the melting hug.
Speaker 5: He didn't even do the kissing one, kissing, the genital cupping.
Speaker 1: No, we didn't do the general cut, general cut genital cupping. No,
Speaker 1: we didn't do that one because we didn't do the phone.
Speaker 1: Believe it or not, Yes, they.
Speaker 5: Cater it based on where you're right in your relationships.
Speaker 5: So every couple on my season, I don't know about yours,
Speaker 5: but we got different sex toys depending on how intimate
Speaker 5: we had.
Speaker 2: Been right just what you guys got the anal beds.
Speaker 3: We got them all. We've got the phone.
Speaker 2: And everything. They were like, you guys gotta spice your
Speaker 2: ship up.
Speaker 1: There wasn't There wasn't one thing in there for me.
Speaker 1: The whole box was for low.
Speaker 5: You didn't get the anal stimulator, no storm. This was
Speaker 5: like a double ended thing as well.
Speaker 2: It's remember these things.
Speaker 3: And was like thing or something. I don't know how
Speaker 3: it actually works.
Speaker 1: I'm going to start watching this show now.
Speaker 4: The craziest thing about that whole period was the phone
Speaker 4: challenge went.
Speaker 2: Tim and uh, Sarah and Sarah.
Speaker 4: That one was wild to me, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: because for me, right if I ever had challenge like
Speaker 4: that or like if you know, there was ever just
Speaker 4: like a point where my girl just got a little
Speaker 4: bit you know, scared what's going on?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: He man, here you go. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I ain't got nothing to hide.
Speaker 4: So that was before we knew about the whole she's
Speaker 4: seeing her ex thing.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We didn't know how to
Speaker 2: make that.
Speaker 4: We didn't know what to you even say about that,
Speaker 4: because if you have nothing to hide, why ain't you
Speaker 4: giving us the fucking phone?
Speaker 2: What's your take on that? Don't try and say it
Speaker 2: it's okay. I'd like to plead the fifth.
Speaker 1: What's Trump say when he's in that spot. Look it
Speaker 1: was Trumps. Yeah, yeah, I'm pleading the fifth. What's my
Speaker 1: thought on the phone thing? I think it would have
Speaker 1: answered a few It would have answered a few questions
Speaker 1: for sure. Tim was cool with it. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: just they just moved on, so and then we had
Speaker 1: to find I'm just trying to think back because you,
Speaker 1: like Luke could have looked like we didn't. I don't
Speaker 1: know whether we had the phone thing or we just
Speaker 1: said do you want to do it? Like she could
Speaker 1: have looked at mine. I could look at mine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I understand when when Tory and Jack went
Speaker 1: through each other's phone, Jack still had him proposing to
Speaker 1: his X and then nerdy pictures which we all seen
Speaker 1: of his X on there. You'd think, if you you know,
Speaker 1: you think, if you watched the show, you're going to
Speaker 1: clean your phone up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually scrubbed mine with some with some bleach, different
Speaker 1: in bleach for a couple of days. You know, I
Speaker 1: got a specialist in the like wipe that.
Speaker 4: Thing out in the cloud the cloud wape clean exactly,
Speaker 4: amaze and clean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I thought, I just really.
Speaker 4: Thought that was a very very interesting you know, change,
Speaker 4: they really try to spice things up.
Speaker 1: I mean, Sarah had big balls to walk back in
Speaker 1: there the next the next time, because you walking in
Speaker 1: front of the fire and squad.
Speaker 2: You know, she's a stronger. That's tough to walk back strong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's you know, that's like Kim Kardashian and
Speaker 1: in uh in the roast the other day with the
Speaker 1: football plight tom Brady, Tom Brady, when she got up
Speaker 1: and then she just got booed down, Like that's that's
Speaker 1: tough to Then you've still got your script to get
Speaker 1: out exactly that being done, and like you thought that
Speaker 1: that was it, and then after that Tim then found
Speaker 1: out from eating and to then come back from that again.
Speaker 2: So it's just one of those things where it was
Speaker 2: like when does the fight stop?
Speaker 4: Like Tim, you know what I mean, Like it's only
Speaker 4: so much as a man or as a woman that's
Speaker 4: going through that much fire, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like you still continue to have faith in the relationship
Speaker 4: or a person, you know what I mean. I always
Speaker 4: think like that's just so crazy about human beings, right is,
Speaker 4: no matter how much we get burnt, sometimes you're always
Speaker 4: going to have to go back like you always want
Speaker 4: to go back, Like you know, there's always like this
Speaker 4: little instinct that you have just what if it works out,
Speaker 4: What if I just try a little bit hard, if
Speaker 4: I can change this person. But the truth of the
Speaker 4: matter is, man like, a lot of times, you can't
Speaker 4: change somebody. It has to come from themselves, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I had a lot of respect for Tim
Speaker 5: and Sarah because I felt like they really gave the
Speaker 5: experiment a go, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean.
Speaker 5: The only thing that spoiled their storyline for me was
Speaker 5: that Tim leaked that he already has a girlfriend early on,
Speaker 5: and I was like, I'm not going to follow their
Speaker 5: storyline now.
Speaker 1: I get it. I actually had dinner with Tim on
Speaker 1: the weekend, and it's funny. I wish, I wish, I
Speaker 1: wish his personality had come out a.
Speaker 2: Little bit more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we had dinner with me, Elie john I,
Speaker 1: Tim Eden, and Andrea oh nice. And because you can't
Speaker 1: get drunk. People think you can get drunk on the show.
Speaker 1: You can't get drunk.
Speaker 3: Really we got some man, we didn't.
Speaker 1: I was sneaking whiskey into my in the mind, I
Speaker 1: snuck in tequila. But they busted me before I got
Speaker 1: in the car because that whole bottle of Don Julio.
Speaker 1: And then they said, yeah, they ain't coming into the tent,
Speaker 1: So I got busted before even left Sky Sweets.
Speaker 3: I think our season must have sport that for you guys.
Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, they but I got. I got the tap
Speaker 1: on the shoulder. I was even drinking water one night
Speaker 1: and they tapped me on the shoulder just because that
Speaker 1: tapped me on the shoulders so much during the show,
Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, yeah, you got to ease up.
Speaker 1: And I turned back to Stevie and said, it's fucking
Speaker 1: water and he goes, oh, sorry, control room mustards just
Speaker 1: watching me pounding back water.
Speaker 2: Geez.
Speaker 1: John actually had to leave one show. It was a
Speaker 1: little bit. He's a little bit drunk and me at
Speaker 1: the retreat.
Speaker 5: Most of us will like gone to the toilet vomiting
Speaker 5: and then coming back like.
Speaker 1: Let's go. I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Our season was so wild, right yeah.
Speaker 2: And I said a lot of that to it.
Speaker 3: He was like, face definitely got cut off very early on.
Speaker 1: All the time, the chewy.
Speaker 2: Cht Man, that's something else.
Speaker 4: Hey, we touched a little bit on Harrison too before
Speaker 4: what are your thoughts on his whole Unmarriables little tangent
Speaker 4: that he had on on the Instagram.
Speaker 1: He's got to be the most misogynistic cockhead that Australia
Speaker 1: has fucking put out. Take is over my friend, like
Speaker 1: it's it's not it's not the time, it's not the place.
Speaker 1: His bullshit little rants one. If you, if you're going
Speaker 1: to do it, man, go into a studio and have
Speaker 1: like put a little bit of production into it, because
Speaker 1: it looks like ship.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 1: At least, Mari, at least if you're gonna, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna put a turn out there, polish the fucking team
Speaker 1: glitter on it exactly, the Unmarriables And just it's funny.
Speaker 1: Just when I'm sitting there take a ship in the morning.
Speaker 1: Occasionally I'll flip through and look at Harrison's page. I
Speaker 1: don't know whether it reminds me.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, mate, I'm sure that is a video.
Speaker 1: And you know, I do notice since since he's been
Speaker 1: giving out advice, he has gone down in followers. So
Speaker 1: that's that's that's quite funny. It is quite funny.
Speaker 4: And I don't know what what just made him just
Speaker 4: wake up one day choose violence and just no one.
Speaker 2: I said nothing these people, especially.
Speaker 1: When you consider where we're at, Like if you look
Speaker 1: at where we're at in today with thirty, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to bring the mood down, but what's
Speaker 1: happening with violence and everything like that and the courts
Speaker 1: and and two this is not this is not this
Speaker 1: is not the time of the place. Dude, read the room.
Speaker 1: You know that's that's against I guess that's why he
Speaker 1: was such a funck with on on last season. Just
Speaker 1: read the room. But again, Alex Moley channel line into
Speaker 1: man Sewane. They can't make you be a fuck with that.
Speaker 1: All comes natural.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's a natural.
Speaker 1: Gift given from God. Some people get brains. I didn't
Speaker 1: get those either.
Speaker 5: But but was there anyone on your season that got
Speaker 5: a really good edit that wasn't the way that they
Speaker 5: are in real life?
Speaker 3: Because I know there was a lot of that on
Speaker 3: my season.
Speaker 1: Well. I actually think Jayden got off lightly because I
Speaker 1: was on the bus with lou heading to we were
Speaker 1: heading to ash and Madeline's wedding, and I said, you're
Speaker 1: not buying this shit, are you? And she go she
Speaker 1: got tim You just got to give up on it,
Speaker 1: like you you're sounding really like snarky now, and I
Speaker 1: felt that the group was put like a few people
Speaker 1: pushing back. So at that point, read the room, this
Speaker 1: is most But if you keep going on this, you'll
Speaker 1: you know, so look, the major already gonna believe it.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit out there with
Speaker 1: my balls hanging in the breeze. So I'll just your saying,
Speaker 1: I'll take them away and move on.
Speaker 4: Because the first of way sometimes just be sitting on
Speaker 4: the toilet and take the ship and I just find
Speaker 4: my way to Harris's.
Speaker 2: Speech and then this this We needed more of this, honestly.
Speaker 4: But like you know, I think that is the craziest
Speaker 4: thing about these Shawls, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 4: it's a story, you know what I mean. They really
Speaker 4: actually cast all these people to kind of remind society
Speaker 4: that what your norm is isn't what everyone's normal.
Speaker 1: Well, the casting is impeccable. I would want nobody off
Speaker 1: the show that was on my season. I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't change the dynamic at all, not at all.
Speaker 1: You couldn't have twelve jadents or twelve jacks or twelve
Speaker 1: ridges or twelve metes or twelve chids. It would just
Speaker 1: be a boring our show watching any one of us
Speaker 1: all the time. It just would be day in and
Speaker 1: day out. So I think I think the dynamic of
Speaker 1: married at first sight, it's two dynamics. It's the dynamic
Speaker 1: of you and the couple, and then it's the dynamic
Speaker 1: of the group. You know yourself, you never know how
Speaker 1: you're going to act in front of a camera, not act,
Speaker 1: but how you're going to be. It's intimidating to walk
Speaker 1: into a room. It's intimidating. You've got a lot of
Speaker 1: big personalities there you're walking in and it's like some
Speaker 1: people like when you're doing your casting call in your
Speaker 1: living room. You're very confident in your own space. You
Speaker 1: walk into a wall of cameras, some big personalities, and
Speaker 1: then you've got to you've got to pipe up. You've
Speaker 1: got to you've got to do what you were saying
Speaker 1: three months ago. Months ago, you said, you said you're
Speaker 1: you're the man and you're the woman. From that door,
Speaker 1: slide open. The floor is yours. Some people some people don't.
Speaker 1: Some people pop, some people go.
Speaker 3: Tory had a really big backstory. She said she was
Speaker 3: quite like alpha. You didn't see that side of her
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 1: Whatever, Come on, really.
Speaker 3: But she comes across as a really strong.
Speaker 1: I'll admit when I was wrong. They are built for
Speaker 1: each other. I wish them nothing but good luck, goodbye,
Speaker 1: and good riddance. There's no question there. I just think
Speaker 1: it's funny. There was there was just that. There was
Speaker 1: that one comment where you know, Tory said, Timothy doesn't
Speaker 1: know who he's dealing with. I'm a boss bitch ideal
Speaker 1: with idea with sleazy middle aged men for a living,
Speaker 1: and that was putting in her mouth. Well, you don't
Speaker 1: know who you're dealing with. I used to deal with gangsters,
Speaker 1: so I know I how to negotiate a deal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's that everyone can be cocky and confident in
Speaker 1: a boxy when you're sitting there. Yeah yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: face to face.
Speaker 2: Not so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: She did have a lot to stay about your smug face.
Speaker 5: I didn't like what she said in reference to cast
Speaker 5: and being on the top of the food chain.
Speaker 1: But that's that, that's that mean girl thing, and that's
Speaker 1: that that smug face. I just I thought that was
Speaker 1: that was one of the funniest things, the highlights of
Speaker 1: the show for me, because Smug was sitting right next
Speaker 1: to you, like I was. I was just resting Smug Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Jackie Boys right next yeah. Cast yeah. The top
Speaker 1: of the food chain and that that that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: That's bullshit.
Speaker 3: I didn't quite feel there was no food.
Speaker 1: Chain when it comes to when it comes to anyone
Speaker 1: the way I felt about the table. Again, if we
Speaker 1: look at if we look at the moment with Tristan
Speaker 1: and the gift giving thing, and everyone looks at my
Speaker 1: face and says, you know, because I've read the comments,
Speaker 1: why didn't you you know, why didn't you just rip
Speaker 1: into him? Because I'm not a believe it or not,
Speaker 1: I'm not a grand standard. That was Tristan's moment, and
Speaker 1: it was his moment to lead. If he needed some backup,
Speaker 1: I'm there. Whatever he was going to run with, I
Speaker 1: might agree with it, Like if Tristan said I forgive you,
Speaker 1: which since then he's completely dropped that ball and said
Speaker 1: jack can go fuck himself. But at that moment that's
Speaker 1: what he wanted. So it wasn't my moment to kill.
Speaker 2: Genuinely, I was like, this guy has got a problem
Speaker 2: with you. It's in your best interest. Here.
Speaker 4: What Tristan has to say him, you apologize after you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So now he's trying to pay
Speaker 4: a restitution with a lousy ass gift that's actually amplifying
Speaker 4: the well comment.
Speaker 2: You're giving him supplements.
Speaker 3: The supplement gift valchie and there was a key chain
Speaker 3: that said you're enough.
Speaker 4: I think that's some bullshit. Like, honestly, man, that was
Speaker 4: the most condescending gift. He was like, just don't give
Speaker 4: me ship.
Speaker 3: It didn't makes sense, Like where did that even come from?
Speaker 3: Like what was his thought pattern? I didn't get it.
Speaker 1: I heard from a little bird that that that's what
Speaker 1: his that's what he told his ex. That he gave
Speaker 1: it to Tristan to let her know that he was
Speaker 1: thinking of her during the show.
Speaker 5: What So that's obviously saying that he has obviously said
Speaker 5: to his ex, and that's like a meaningful thing between them.
Speaker 5: And then he put that quote on a key chain
Speaker 5: and gave it to Tristan.
Speaker 1: It was a little bit of a symbol.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that is spice.
Speaker 1: But again, she's moved on. I actually invited Courtney to
Speaker 1: the to the reunion. I was trying to get her
Speaker 1: to come.
Speaker 3: As by plus one can you imagine?
Speaker 1: But didn't pick up. And I just thought it'd be funny.
Speaker 1: I love a good gag and that would have been
Speaker 1: the ultimate. But it didn't happen, and Courtney's moved on.
Speaker 1: Jack and Victory a happy on the Gold Coast. Fucking
Speaker 1: knock yourselves out? Wow?
Speaker 5: Literally what was harrier though? Not knowing how to fly
Speaker 5: that helicopter or maths?
Speaker 1: Oh my, somebody said, would you go to a if
Speaker 1: somebody said would you do maths again? Or do a
Speaker 1: year in prison? Prison any day, any day of the week.
Speaker 3: How much it was like a big toll that was
Speaker 3: just you know what.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm done. I'm glad, I'm done. But if
Speaker 1: you if you wanted me to back it up, I
Speaker 1: couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you too, man, Honestly.
Speaker 1: You guys are awesome, great synergy, a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Come on, I'll see you guys in the next one.
Speaker 1: Jet out other day.