1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Pit Talk, brought to you by Shannon's. 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: On today's episode, Formula One resumes with the Las Vegas 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Grand Prix this weekend, the first race of the final 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: triple header to end the season and decide the world championship, 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: and we look back on the Mona GP season and 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: ahead to the first ever Supercars Grand Final. My name's 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: Michael Lamonato. It's great to have your company and the 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: company of my co host. He knows the best way 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: to achieve team unity is to throw as many people 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: under the bus as possible. It's Matt Clayton. 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: You only throw them under the bus, Michael, if you're 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: going to put the bus and reverse and have another 13 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: crack and go backwards over them after you have to 14 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: throw them under. But yes, we love a good bit 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: of blood letting and Ferrari, Ferrari, I'll give them this. 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: They're consistent if nothing else. But yeah, this was the 17 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: story that absolutely everybody saw coming, isn't it. 18 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: Yes, predictable, but probably in all the worst ways, particularly 19 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: if you have any kind of interest in Ferrari being successful. 20 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: Because that's where we're starting this weekend's podcast. We will 21 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: get into some of the questions out of the Las 22 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: Vegas pri and those other items. But the story of 23 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: this fortnight off, the weekend off in the Formula one 24 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: world before we head to that final tripleheader, was Ferrari 25 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,279 Speaker 1: chairman John Elkin appearing to throw his drivers under the bus, 26 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: along with us some unnamed others who are, in his words, 27 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: not up to par. These are quotes he gave to 28 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: the Italian media at an unrelated press event, so are 29 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: completely off the cuff. We can only assume this is 30 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: what he really thinks. And I'm going to read you 31 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: some quotes to launch this one off, and you can 32 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: tell me how many of these you think. Tally with reality, 33 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: we can say that our mechanics are winning the championship 34 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: with their performance and everything they've done on the pit stops. 35 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: If we look at our engineers, there's no doubt the 36 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: car has improved. If we look at the rest, it's 37 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: not up to par. We certainly have drivers for whom 38 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: it's important to focus on driving and talk less. I 39 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: will note here that in only a few hours after 40 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: these comments came to like Charlotte Claire posted something on 41 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: social media in which he said only unity can help 42 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: us turn that situation around and Hamilton said, I back 43 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: my team, I back myself. I will not give up, 44 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: not now, not then, not ever. Sounds a bit like 45 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: a children's nursery rhyme. Actually, I really like that, some 46 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: strange commentary from a Ferrari chairman at a time the 47 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: team is under pressure to actually win a race this 48 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: season and of course to get the rules right next 49 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: to you in twenty twenty six, to suddenly and somewhat 50 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: inexplicably start blaming people for the team's underperformance. 51 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: Yes, it's always the It's the old football sack, the 52 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: manager routie, isn't it when things aren't going very very well. 53 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: But you know when you mentioned before that, you know 54 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: Hamilton and Leclair have been instructed to focus on driving 55 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: and talk less like Charlotte Clare has been at Ferrari 56 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: for a long time now, are there any words left? 57 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: Probably run out of things to say at this point. 58 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: He's been there for so long, and you know it 59 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 2: always ends up seeing it being a different journey to 60 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: the same outcome, doesn't it with someone like him? But 61 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: I just I sigh here in exasperation. Also because this 62 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: feels like a story as old as time. Does any 63 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: of this help and it's just no. And I think 64 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: maybe the contrast between this not being very helpful, and 65 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: then we talked about this last week because of what 66 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: happened in Sarpolo with a double DNF for Ferrari, they're 67 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: fourth in the constructor's standings, which you know doesn't sound 68 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: great in and of itself, but you look at me 69 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: in context. They're behind a team that sometimes forgets that 70 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: it has a second car in Formula one in Red Bull. 71 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: This is how bad it's got. And if you were 72 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: going to look at the strengths of Ferrari on paper, 73 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: this driver lineup is as good, if not better, than 74 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: any driver lineup they've had for a considerably long time. 75 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: So the mechanics are doing a great job. That's ononderfully. 76 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: You keep the soldiers on the shop floor happy, well, 77 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: that sort of thing, that's fine. Is it really a 78 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: product of two guys who are clearly two of the 79 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: best five six drivers in Formula One that it's going 80 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: like this pointing the finger at a time where unity, 81 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: as Charlott clur said, is required, is a very Ferrari 82 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: thing to do and not particularly helpful. And from your 83 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: point of view, I mean, you must have just looked 84 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: at this and said, well, of course this is going 85 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: to be the way it goes because. 86 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: Ferrari, Yeah, one hundred percent. But it's just confusing that 87 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,839 Speaker 1: we're not confusing. It's completely predictable, isn't it, As you've 88 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: I think aptly said. But this year they've been through 89 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: so many ups and downs off the track. You know, 90 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: we started the year with the disappointment of the car 91 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: not really being there, then some hope obviously in China 92 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: where Lewis Hamilton won the Sprint, and then disappointment the 93 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: cars squalor and the Grand Prix, and then it was 94 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: sort of in that after that first quarter of the season, 95 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: let's say that speculation really mounted in the Italian media 96 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 1: that Frederic Vassu was going to be replaced. That normally 97 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: comes from it as much as there telling me that 98 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: loves a good rumor story. When they all come out 99 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: on the same page, it usually suggests something is going 100 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: on inside, whether or not it's on hundreds and accurate 101 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: or not. Turns out he then re signed his contract, 102 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: but now the chairman after saying he fully backed the 103 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: way that fred Vassis set up the team and everything well, actually, well, 104 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: maybe it's the drivers the problem. It's all just a 105 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: little bit unnecessarily chaotic in a year in which, okay, 106 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: the disappointment is palpable. This is a team that expected 107 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: to contend for titles this year after falling only fourteen 108 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: points short of the Constructors Championship last year. But it's 109 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: more important, argue than ever ever, to focus not simply 110 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: because of the year has been disappointing, but because next 111 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: year the rule changes are a massive opportunity to get 112 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: them right or to get them wrong and be condemned 113 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: to maybe another half decade of not winning titles. We 114 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: don't know how the new rules are going to go 115 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: in sense of development and all that kind of thing, 116 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: but it's important to hit the ground running, particularly for Ferrari, 117 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: and to have this off track nonsense happening can only 118 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: distract from that very important goal. 119 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, the next year thing you mentioned is the key 120 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: point here, because anyone other than the team that's been 121 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: dominant all season is one of the constructors by Myles 122 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: I A. McLaren, everyone else should be looking at next 123 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: year because you get this once in a however many 124 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: years chance to completely flip the script on what the 125 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: pecking order is in Formula one that just a continual 126 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: renewal of previous season's rules, and you get these incremental 127 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: changes but nothing seismic, and you look at what's coming 128 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 2: next year, you look back at big previous rule changes. 129 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: The pecking order of Formula one can change dramatically. I mean, 130 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 2: I always go back to twenty fourteen when you think 131 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 2: what proceded twenty fourteen with Red Bulls winning everything for 132 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: years and then suddenly they were absolutely nowhere and Mercedes 133 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: cleaned up for the best part of five years after 134 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: that because it was that chance for a big reset. 135 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: The last thing you need going into an opportunity like this, 136 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: and this is what it is. It's an opportunity for 137 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: the teams that aren't doing so well. The last thing 138 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: you need is distractions and disunity and just throwing unnecessary 139 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: questions up here where you look at the other teams 140 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: that are in this mix to potentially step forward for 141 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: next year, you don't see that same amount of chaos 142 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: being created unnecessarily. Now you can have some hard conversations 143 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: behind closed doors and all that sort of thing. It's 144 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 2: also not the Ferrari way, And this is the crazy part. 145 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: For me is if history is any guide, this is 146 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: tactic by Ferrari. The way they're handling this, it doesn't 147 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: work because we're starting to get to the point now 148 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 2: where we're approaching historical levels of title droughts for both 149 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 2: constructor and driver. Doing this would be probably the last 150 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: thing that you should be doing internally ahead of such 151 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: a big opportunity for next year. It would be bad 152 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 2: enough at any time. It's certainly not a great look 153 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: now when to me twenty twenty six is for anyone 154 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: other than McLaren, twenty twenty six is this thing that 155 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: you should be looking at as this is our chance here. 156 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: If we get this right, we can go on a run, 157 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,559 Speaker 2: because history has taught us that it's just the wrong 158 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: message and at the wrong time. 159 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, this is the longest constructors Championship drought, as 160 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: you said in prior's history, not quite the longest driver's 161 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: title drought, but with any more interventions perhaps they can 162 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: reach that in the next couple of years. The timing 163 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: was also kind of interesting. Obviously, Brazil was very disappointing 164 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: and that was sort of the launching point for this. 165 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: With the double DNF in the Grand Prix but the 166 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: pace was pretty ordinary all weekend, but Charlotte Clair had 167 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: qualified very well in the sprint that they both drivers 168 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: had performed well. Hamilton from outside into the points LaClair 169 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: maybe could have finished on the podium and not been 170 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: the poor innocent bystander in the piastri Antonelli incident early 171 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: in the race. Hamilton probably not to be hit the 172 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: back of Franco colop Into, but nonetheless it just seems 173 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: a strange way to try and pick your team up. 174 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: I note that John Elkin also was saying this in 175 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: direct parallel to Ferrari's World Endurance Championship team, which one 176 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: on the same weekend I think, or last week. In anyway, 177 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: the drivers and constructors world title in that series also 178 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: a very prestigious series, also a world championship by FIA 179 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: standards neglected notably, I think to mention two important things. 180 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: One is that the Ferrari factory team there is operated 181 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: by an independent team of course, not Ferrari in house, 182 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: which I think could be relevant. But also World Endurance 183 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: Championship operates under a balance of performance regulations, which means 184 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: the field is equalized to ensure every front running team 185 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: as a chance of winning. One could cynically argue maybe 186 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: that's what Ferrari needs to win again in Formula one. 187 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: If we want to draw that direct parallel. 188 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: Well, perhaps they need some help to mitigate some of 189 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: the self inflicted wounds that they seem to create on 190 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: the Formula one side. So yes, balance of performance, which 191 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: are three words that I don't particularly like in motorsport. 192 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: Maybe that's what they're angling for here. But I think 193 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: the frustrating part about this from a media point of 194 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: view and just from a fan point of view, is 195 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: it feels they are lacking in nothing in terms of 196 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: resource and talent and pedigree and history and all of 197 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: these things that stand in the way from other more 198 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: inverted commas normal teams from taking this step up. Everything's 199 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: there for them to succeed, and they don't succeed because 200 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: of themselves, not because of any other external factor. And it's, 201 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: like I said, it's a story as old as time, 202 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: and you can, yeah, you can roll your eyes and say, 203 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: of course Ferrari. It's immensely frustrating because you know there's 204 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: certain teams in any sport where the sport is in 205 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: a better place if they are good, and they are 206 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: fighting for something meaningful. You can pick your favorite football league, 207 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 2: or you know, I always think of like the New 208 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: York Knicks in the NBA when they're good, like the 209 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 2: American basket was so much better, when the biggest media 210 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: market is right up the front of that formula ones 211 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: in a great place, when Ferrari is good and all 212 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: the ingredients are there for them to be good except themselves, 213 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: and they just get in their own way all the time. 214 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: And I just you know, I'm a bit of a 215 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 2: broken record here, But twenty twenty six if any time 216 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: you need unity and pushing forward is like, we've got this. 217 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: It's now. We are three rounds from the end. Never 218 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: rule set that goes in the bin after Abu Dhabi, 219 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: This is not the time. Yeah. 220 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: I think there's also this interesting element as well if 221 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: we look forward to twenty twenty six. They're taking, as 222 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: you've said, probably the most competitive driver line up, at 223 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: least on paper into that ear as they've had this year. 224 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: We can't can't really doubt Charlotte Clair in very many 225 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: ways at all. 226 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: At this point, one. 227 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: Lap speed is there. He's increasingly a really canny Grand 228 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: Prix operator as well. Lewis Hamilton on paper should be 229 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: right up there. He's a seven time champion. The last 230 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: few of the years have left question marks over exactly 231 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: where he's operating at. I think we can also say 232 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: that at a minimum he hasn't gelled with this generation 233 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: of car, this ground effect generation. So next year perhaps 234 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: an opportunity for him as well. But this year has 235 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: been notable that well, Charlotte Claire anyway, who it's almost 236 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: like a little bit of a joke in the paddic 237 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: about how he can be absolutely battered and bruised by 238 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: a dreadful Ferrari weekend and you'll bounce back the next 239 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: week and say how much he loves the team and 240 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: how much he loves being a Ferrari driver. Nothing bad 241 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: ever happens there. This year has been notably more pessimistic 242 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: I think about his lot, been more willing to criticize 243 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: openly a little bit. I think a driver has been 244 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: there for seven years like he has and who has 245 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: given everything to Ferrari probably earns a little bit of 246 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: latitude in that respect. But perhaps there's an element of 247 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: that here. Notable as well that in Brazil Lewis Hamilton 248 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: described this year as a nightmare for him at Ferrari. 249 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: I think he was talking more about his own results 250 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: than the team for sale. There's a little bit of 251 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: that in there, but I was interesting, and I point 252 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: to an ESPN report here that we all remember. Around 253 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: the mid season he talked about how he prepared a 254 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: document for the team about things he thinks needs to 255 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: be changed a little bit to be more competitive next year, 256 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: both for his comfort in the team, but also the 257 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: team generally, and that that has gone down in some 258 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: parts of the team quite poorly. They haven't been receptive 259 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: to some of his ideas. And I think, to go 260 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: back to the concept that we've seen this movie before, 261 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: this fields like everything that is wrong with a team 262 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: that refuses to adapt in ways that have been proven 263 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: to win titles. If they're not going to listen to 264 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: the guy they've paid the big bucks to bring those 265 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: ideas over to. 266 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: Them, well it's you know, it's what the Dictionary definition 267 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: of the insanity is, just doing the same thing over 268 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: and over again and expecting a different result. When you've 269 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: got someone with Hamilton's pedigree and the success that he's 270 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: had and said, hey, I've I've moved enough to create 271 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: something here that I think might help for that not 272 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: to go down well, or to be dismissed because he's 273 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: come from the outside, or whatever it might be. At 274 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 2: the very least you look at it and consider it 275 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: and maybe consider implementing some of it, because it's a 276 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 2: chance to change a predictable narrative. Part of the worst 277 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: part about this for me with Ferrari this year was 278 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: that you could see it coming a mile off what's 279 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: happened with these comments in the last few weeks, and 280 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: there was nothing that necessarily steerd those comments away from 281 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: just their inevitable airing in public. It was coming ages ago, 282 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 2: and you know, the very Ferrari thing is like, well, 283 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: of course it's going to endlight this. He didn't have to, 284 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: and this is the reason you bring someone like Lewis 285 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: Hamilton in from the outside. Okay, yes he may not 286 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: be the driver that he once was, but he certainly 287 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: got the presence and the pedigree and there's a proven 288 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: track record of success there By hiring someone like him, 289 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: there's a bit of an admission that, yeah, we need 290 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: to change, we need to look at what's happened elsewhere 291 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: and try and bring some of that into Ferrari and 292 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: then for it just to sort of heater out the 293 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: way that it has. I mean, in his forties now, 294 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: he's not going to be the same driver he was 295 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: at thirty two or thirty five or what have you. 296 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: But all the benefit of that experience and the success, 297 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 2: it feels like that's not necessarily been taken into account. 298 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: And then so the question begs a question, why not 299 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: just keep car hoost sites or hire anybody else? Quite frankly, yeah, 300 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: this is why you bring someone like him in and 301 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: spend the money that you're doing, because it's an admission 302 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: that you need something else from outside. And it doesn't 303 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: feel like it's really gelt at all. 304 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's what's working, at least theoretically working 305 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: at Aston Martin with Fernando Orlans. They've got him there. 306 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: He's clearly performing at a very good level, but he's 307 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: bringing his expertise to a team that's coming from a 308 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: low base and needing to reach a high one according 309 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: to the objective set by the team owner. There Ferrari 310 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: isn't coming from as lower base, but it clearly needs 311 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: some help getting at least those final percentage points of 312 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: performance to close that gap. That's part of the reason 313 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: that got him there. It'll be interesting to see how 314 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: this one evolves. You can read a little bit more 315 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: about this at the Fox Sports website as well about 316 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: why this might be happening and what it means for 317 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: the team. But I just want to look briefly ahead 318 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: to this weekend's Las Vegas Grand Prix and also to 319 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: the final three rounds of the year, because whether or 320 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: not Lewis Hamilton, quite aside from this, can get back 321 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: onto the podium for the first time as a Ferrari 322 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: driver is something that I think we'll be watching for 323 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: in these last three rounds. No Ferrari driver has gone 324 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: this long before claiming their first Ferrari podium. He's had 325 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: fourth a couple of times. Vegas might be the opportunity 326 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: as supposed because this feels like the wild card circuit. 327 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: I guess remaining on the calendar because it is such 328 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: an outlier. 329 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd agree. I mean, this is the one that 330 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: has the least predictable outcome. We'll probably get to this 331 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: in our crystal ball section where I make up with 332 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: something completely outlandished by the end of this podcast. We'll 333 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: have to see, but it's certainly in a season that's 334 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: been you know, the Constructor's title was wrapped up ages ago. 335 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: It's been a season that's been dominated by I guess 336 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: you could say three drivers because the Stappans come so 337 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: good late in the season. This does feel like an 338 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: unusual wildcard, and it's not because necessarily you're talking about 339 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: whether or just one of those crazy calamitous sorts of 340 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: Grand Prix. It's a track layout because of the amount 341 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: of trip wise around this place, and we've we've not 342 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: had the races in Vegas have been pretty intriguing because 343 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: they don't conform to a script. And I think you've 344 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: got a live championship fight going on as well, of course, 345 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: which we're going to touch on. But this feels like 346 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: the race with the most jeopardy and there's a lot 347 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: of people with a lot of lot to lose in 348 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: a race weekend like this. Ferrari, as we've discussed in 349 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: the last fifteen minutes, have absolutely nothing to lose really 350 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: because it's you know, the only way is up when 351 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: you're fourth in the constructors Championship and your high price 352 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: siding hasn't stood on a Grand Prix podium yet. This 353 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: is an opportunity. And so if there's one of these 354 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: last three races of the season that's going to perhaps 355 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: put a result in their favor, it strikes me that 356 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: this is the one. But it's a bit of a 357 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: strange race weekend. I haven't really you know, you watch 358 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: these over a number of years, you get a feel 359 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: for how these things are going to play out. Who 360 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: might be strong, certain drivers, have affinities with certain places. 361 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: This one still feels like the first time we've been 362 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: to Las Vegas three years. It doesn't really seem to 363 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: follow any sort of script, and a lot of the 364 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: time you've just got the palms upturn and say, well, 365 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen here, and so 366 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it's great for the unpredictability factor for the viewers, 367 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: and it's great that it's in an Australian time zone 368 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: of course, But if something whack is going to happen, 369 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: and something good for Ferrari, because God knows they need 370 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: some good news at this point, maybe this is it. 371 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. They need their first win, Lewis Hamilton needs 372 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: his first podium. Big question of course going into this 373 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: weekend is what's going to happen with the driver's championship battle. 374 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: Lando Norris leeds Oscar Piastri by twenty four points. Three 375 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: rounds remain. That's three Grand Prix plus one sprint in Kata. 376 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: This for me feels like I think we've said this before, 377 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: an important round for the title, not just because they're 378 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: running out of time more Oscar Piastri is running out 379 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: of time if he wants to overhaul that gap, but 380 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,239 Speaker 1: because this doesn't feel like it's going to be a 381 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: strong McLaren circuit now. The team thinks it's improved the 382 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: weaknesses that have made this such a weak circuit over 383 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, but nonetheless we've seen similar 384 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 1: tracks and at some other tracks this year as well, 385 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: its advantage can be muted by track characteristics like long 386 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: straits and cool temperatures, which is mostly what Las Vegas is. 387 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: And I can't help but think that that means it's 388 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: not simply a matter of maybe fewer points being on 389 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: the table for the McLaren drivers this weekend than we've 390 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: come to expect, but the potential for a big swing 391 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: if one of them gets it right, or maybe perhaps 392 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: if one of them gets it very wrong. 393 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: Well, and also the chance for more interlopers from other 394 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: teams to figure into the mix. Like you know, there's 395 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 2: been tracks this season where if you're in a McLaren 396 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: you're having a bit of an off day, you could 397 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: still finish on the podium, and I don't think that's 398 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 2: the case here. And there's a bit of an optical 399 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 2: illution with this race. I think there's so many of 400 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: these night races we see now and less. I remind 401 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: you Formula one's done its last daytime lapse of the 402 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: season three rounds from the end, but that'll make you 403 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: feel good. But this we have these things. With all 404 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 2: the night races that we have on the calendar these days, 405 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: they're characterized by being in hot climates and so they 406 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: do play out kinder similarly in a way you think 407 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: of the way Bahrain works and Saudi andav is generally hot. 408 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: Vegas in November at a certain time of night is 409 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 2: properly cold. It's a it's a curve ball that we 410 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: don't necessarily take into account because so many of these 411 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: races we see are under lights, are very very hot runs, 412 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 2: and yet it's not a track both climate and characteristics. 413 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 2: It's going to necessarily suit McLaren. That's the interesting thing 414 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: for me in that, Yeah, there's been races this season 415 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: where if you're Piastri or Norris and you can finish it, 416 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 2: So so sort of a fourth on a day where 417 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: you don't really have it. If you have one of 418 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: those days this weekend, you might be seventh. There's absolutely 419 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: a chance for other people to get in the mix here. 420 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: Mercedes had a strong record here, they'll be probably stronger 421 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: relative to other tracks that they've been at Ferrari, who knows. 422 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: And then you've got the for stapp In factor because 423 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: he's now right on the precipice of being out of 424 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: the World Championship fights. Forty nine points off the lead. 425 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: It must win is probably a bit much, but he's 426 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: certainly he has to have a really strong weekend relative 427 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: to the two guys that he's fighting against to at 428 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: least be part of the narrative for the two rounds 429 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: that follow. So there's a lot of moving parts here. 430 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, the tractor characteristics and the cold temperatures. McLaren 431 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: will feel vulnerable here despite the fact that they feel 432 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 2: they're going to be stronger than they were last year. 433 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 2: But what were they sixth and seventh in the Grand 434 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: Prix last year and never really factored into it. And yeah, 435 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 2: we've got such a limited database of information with Vegas 436 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: because he's so new that it's hard to imagine there's 437 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: going to be a dramatic turnaround on that front. So 438 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: I'm all for a bit of chaos because we want 439 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: this to stay live for as long as we possibly can. 440 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: But it's who gets in the mix potentially between the 441 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 2: two McClaren drivers and what order those McClaren drivers are in. 442 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 2: That's the really interesting part of this weekend, I. 443 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: Think, particularly when you consider I think a couple of things. 444 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: One is the chance of a safety car here, which 445 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: you'd have to think is pretty high considering that the 446 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: nature of the circuit. But also we've seen, as only 447 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: his last week, that you don't have to qualify that 448 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: far down the grid for incidents to affect your race. 449 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: Oscopiastri obviously his race completely undone by an incident while 450 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: battling for a spot on the podium, so not even 451 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: very low at all. He qualified only on the second row, 452 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: So you don't have to qualify that far down. If 453 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: we're working with the assumption that McLaren won't be as 454 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: potent as usual for your race to be heavily compromised 455 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: and only by strategy, but perhaps by incidents. The first 456 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 1: turn in Vegas, Okay, there's a lot of wall right 457 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: right out the outside, but we see cars go off 458 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: there regularly, particularly given the temperatures, cold, ties and breaks, 459 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: all that kind of thing at the start, So there's 460 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: a pretty high potential for chaos. Having said all that, 461 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: just because the first two races are very interesting, I 462 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: feel like every race is due a bad one, Like 463 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: I think back to Aservaijan. Well, it was due a 464 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: bad one straight off the bat and then the good 465 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: races came. I certainly hope that's not the case, but 466 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: it should be interesting nonetheless, because I think, as you said, 467 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: the form guide doesn't feel like it really applies here. 468 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. It's a bit of an outlawer. 469 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 2: And the safety card thing you just said, then that's 470 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: super real that you look down the list of entrance 471 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: for this weekend and we could probably have a discussion 472 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 2: about this off there. But I could give you three 473 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: people right now who are most likely to create a 474 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 2: safety car over the course of the weekend. I mean 475 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: and it might not necessarily could get a poorly time 476 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: red flag in qualifying, it's got potential for that too. 477 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: So it's not just in Sunday's race. It's what happens 478 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: through the rest of the weekend. Are people taking gred 479 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: penalties for new gearboxes and other such and what happens 480 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: at crucial points of qualifying because qualifying has is a 481 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 2: chance that qualifying could be pretty chaotic here because people 482 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 2: are pushing so hard. I think if that the last 483 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: corner coming off the strait, I think as we're even 484 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: coming on to the big straight where colpinto bindit in 485 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: the Williams and shifted one of the barriers, that was 486 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 2: a lengthy delay. So there are a lot of tripwise 487 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: around this place, and you add cold temperatures and some 488 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 2: curb writing and yeah, lookout. 489 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: A great thing is though, that at three pm Eastern 490 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: daylight time, we can afford lengthy delays for a nice change. 491 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 2: Bring on the delays water time. They can have eleven 492 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: red flags and the lights can go out and they 493 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: can fill in potholes or whatever they want to do. 494 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: At Las Vegas we've seen that in the past. Bring 495 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 2: it on, because Australia will still be awake wonderful times. 496 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Let's move out a Move of the week brought 497 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: to you by Shannon's. We had two categories in action 498 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: over the weekend, both Murdo GP and Supercars. We will 499 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: get into them in a little bit more detail in 500 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: a moment, but Matt, I caught your e this week move. 501 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: Of the Week. I'm actually going to be partially sensible here, 502 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: which I know is unlike me in this particular segment, 503 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: but I'm going to take you to the second last 504 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: lap of the Motor GP season in Valencia last weekend. 505 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 2: Notable because on that lap Ducatti's Fabio de jan Antonio 506 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 2: took third place off Katm's Pedro Acosta and held that 507 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 2: place to the check and flag. That's the eighty eighth 508 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 2: straight Grand Prix, Michael, that a Ducati has been on 509 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 2: the podium. If you can believe that, it extends the 510 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: all time Moto GP record that goes back to the 511 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one British Grand Prix, and so de jan 512 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: Antonio getting third on that penultimate lap of the season 513 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: preserve that record. And it was in interesting in that well, 514 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: two things. I mean, that's nearly what's over four years. 515 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 2: That's wild for a brand to have a bike on 516 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: the podium and every Grand Prix for eighty eight straight races. 517 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 2: But it also shows you how hard it is for 518 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: someone like Ducatti. When Mark Marquez a sidelined as he 519 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: was this weekend, you know, Alex Marquez was a bit 520 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: lost in the race, had some entire life issues. Yet 521 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: another Peco DNF just pour out another had hardly a 522 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: drink for Peco because he probably needs one at this point. 523 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: But it shows you that Katti can be vulnerable. And 524 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: the fact it took until a pass for the last 525 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: podium place on the second last lap of the season 526 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: for that record to be preserved, I thought was noteworthy. 527 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: But while we're on the Mark Marquez thing, by the way, 528 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: this is a trivia question for you. We had twenty 529 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: two rounds in Motor GP this year, twenty two full 530 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 2: time riders. How many rounds do you think that we 531 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 2: had the entire grid for the season fit and racing? 532 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: Good question. That is a great question, I'm going to say, 533 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: because we've had especially because I think of Juge Martin 534 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: who didn't turn up until quite late in the year, 535 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: I reckon it's going to be like three. 536 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 2: Okay, once if you can believe that I. 537 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: Thought I was low. 538 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 2: So once in twenty two rounds this year it was 539 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: it was the Grand Prix of Catalunya in round fifteen. 540 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: Did we have all twenty two regular full time riders 541 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 2: start the Grand Prix on the Sunday one in twenty 542 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: two rounds? Soay Motor GP longer seasons, not Horay Motor 543 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 2: GP longer seasons. One time, if you can believe. 544 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: That, good year for the on track medical team, which 545 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: is not indeed, yes, remarkable always good year for that. 546 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 2: Well. I've got move of the Week into useless trivia here, 547 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: so you can choose to one or both of these, 548 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 2: but I should probably ask you what your move of 549 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: the week is, and I'm suspecting it's going to have 550 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: two more wheels in mine. 551 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: Yes, So I regret that I didn't bring any fun 552 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: trivia for you. Set the bar high for this one. 553 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: Shannon's will be very pleased. I'm going to go with 554 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: almost a little bit of a left field Matt Clayton 555 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: style move because it's not one, it's twenty seven moves, 556 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: it's Will Brow. I'm going to go I give pick 557 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: my favorite on though it's will brew move on ryan 558 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: Wood on Saturday afternoon in Sandown obviously Sandown five hundred 559 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: to claim a second place as it was behind when 560 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: it has most it that was up from fifteenth on 561 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: the grid, remarkable, fifteenth on the grid where he qualified 562 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: when we assumed, because he started this weekend, we're going 563 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: to get in the Supercars final system in just a moment. 564 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: Started this weekend outside the top four, and only the 565 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: four progressed to the Grand Final. So qualifying fifteenth right there, 566 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: then you were mentally riding him off as a championship defense. 567 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: Recovered to second, remarkable, then qualified seventeenth on Sunday, made 568 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: fundamentally the same problem, which was he watched the end 569 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: of Q two from his garage, never a great place 570 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: to be finished back on the podium a double he 571 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: was the only triple eight driver to score a double podium. 572 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: Just fuck qualifying there and despite brock Feeni continuing to 573 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: lead that the championship table, the race pace was on 574 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: another planet. This wasn't a These weren't results that were 575 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: born of you know, even though it was a bit 576 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: wet and dry on on Sunday, that were born of 577 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, whacky. Weren't even any safety guards in fact 578 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: in the web on Sunday. No, no whacky results, just 579 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: very fast. He is a very fast driver. Made twenty 580 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: seven passes, got two podiums. He's through to the Grand Final, 581 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: not even in fourth, in third place. Just a remarkable 582 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: weekend for him and I think maybe we will reflect 583 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: just in time for his title defense. Just an incredible performance. 584 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: Twenty seven moves of the week. That's the highest ub 585 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 2: we've had in this category. For that is extraordinary because 586 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: it's such a Sena. Is not the easiest track for 587 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: these things to pass mus be perfectly honest, even if 588 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 2: you've got a car advantage, So to do it twice 589 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: in twenty four hours is pretty impressive. So I only 590 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: have one move of the week. I think your twenty 591 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: seven tops MNE in terms of number and quality. But yeah, 592 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: that is quite a remarkable turnaround. Considering again, dire it 593 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: looked well. 594 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: Let's go back to Motor GP though in interested versus 595 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: expert final time this year, I suppose because it was 596 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: the final race of Moto GP for the season. We 597 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: are in that final month of motor racing pretty much 598 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: unless him by the one of those random off season categories. 599 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: Final race of the we don't have as you mentioned, 600 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: most of the full time riders or many of the 601 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: full time riders were not there, but was beginning to 602 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: look a little bit regular. I suppose for Bacco Betzeki, 603 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: who scored his second straight Grand Prix victory again in 604 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: quite comfortable, dominating fashion. What was your take on this 605 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: this final weekend of racing, and I suppose a little 606 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: bit of the season overall. 607 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, super interesting that so Buzeki wins in Valencia, led 608 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: every lap from pole, as he had done in Portermow 609 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: the previous week seven days previously, and it just underlines 610 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: how much Aprilia has improved this season. It's the most 611 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: successful season they've ever had. It's the first time of 612 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: the one back to back Grand Prix they finished one 613 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 2: two in this race at Valencia, with Ralphernandez, the Australian 614 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: Grand Prix winner, finishing six tenths of a second behind Betzeki. 615 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 2: And the interesting part for me is that you know, 616 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 2: we mentioned before that Mark Marquez has been out and 617 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 2: it's the last four rounds have been pretty interesting where 618 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: you see the reliance that Decati has on the biggest 619 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: difference maker in the sport. But it also shows that 620 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt now that the Aprilia 621 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: is the second best bike on the grid, and you 622 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 2: look at the turmoil that Aprili has gone through this season. 623 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: They spent a lot of money signing Jorge Martin after 624 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: he basically just cracked THEU SADS and left your canty, 625 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: which was understandable to go to a Prillier and the 626 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 2: guy they spent all the money on and they had 627 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: all the high hopes for has basically not featured at 628 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: all because he did seven Grand Prix for the entire year, 629 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 2: because he just lurched from one injury to the next. 630 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: The Bozeki things interesting for me because we saw a 631 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: bit of this in twenty twenty three. He won three 632 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: Grand Prix that year's third in the championship. Last year 633 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: he was twelve. He was just kind of not really 634 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: out the races. Last year he was signed with a 635 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: Prillier very much to be their second rider. I don't 636 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: even think he was their second or third choice. They 637 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: wanted Maverick Vinalez to stay. They probably wanted an Italian 638 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: on the second seat. In Abasien. He was possibly going there, 639 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: Bazeki was kind of a consolation prize. And while we're 640 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: talking stats, hit for you this back half of the season, 641 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: so two round season, the final eleven rounds of the 642 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: season after the German Grand Prix in July, Berzeki was 643 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: the highest point scorer in the back half of the 644 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: season out of anyone on the entire grid. Now, the 645 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: astor Is scare courses that Mark Marquez missed the final 646 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: four rounds, but over the last eleven rounds of the season, 647 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: Berzeki two hundred and twenty three points, second rider in 648 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: that category. Interestingly enough, also not a Ducati Pedro Acosta 649 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: two hundred and eight points on a KTM in those 650 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: final eleven rounds, Alex Marquez two hundred and six just 651 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 2: behind on a Ducati Mark Marquez two hundred and one 652 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: points and missed the last four Grand Prix of the year. 653 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: So I mean, does that stat change if Mark is 654 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: upright for the final four? Yeah, probably does. But it 655 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: shows you that in a championship that Ducati's won again, 656 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: Aprili has made massive steps forward and a Costa is 657 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: just proving to be this enormous and difference maker on 658 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: a bike that nobody else really seems to be able 659 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: to ride at the moment, so really interesting into the season. 660 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: Also a couple of little shout outs Jack Miller fifth 661 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: top ten finish of the season. He was ninth in 662 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: the race, qualified on third rowing. It's really quite solid. 663 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: You look at jack season and the points in the 664 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: championship finishing position don't look great relative to his previous seasons. 665 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: But I think he you know, he proved himself to 666 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 2: be the second best Yamaha rider all year. He secured 667 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: a contract for twenty twenty six, and we know Yamaha 668 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: is moving to that V four engine for next year. 669 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: And Jack spent all but this year riding V fours 670 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: for Honda and Decatti and Katim beforehand. So Jack's a 671 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: hugely valuable asset there. And then in the wacky races 672 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: corner of interested versus expert this week, which I've just invented, 673 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: can we talk about Franco Morbidelli. Oh, please, Franko Morbidelli. 674 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: He usually dawdles on the racing line or hits people 675 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: during races, but he was actually able to do something 676 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: even he'd never done before, pulling into his grid spot 677 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: before the Grand Prix on Sunday, got distracted or something 678 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: and ran into the back of Honda's Aleisha Spargaro, who 679 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: was stationary on the grid awaiting the start. If anyone 680 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: that follows murdor GP knows that the Morbidelli Aspargaro beef 681 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: is one of sports more underrated ones because it's got many, 682 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: many chapters. The worst part for Morbidelli he falls off 683 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: his own bike and breaks his left hand at about 684 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: two kilometers an hour and the bike falls on top 685 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 2: of him. He's now out of the postseason test in Valencia, 686 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: which is happening Tuesday Australian time, because he's broken his 687 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: own hand in a two kilometer an hour accident and 688 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 2: now can't test the twenty twenty six bike. And that 689 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: is the most Franco Morbidelli story that I could possibly 690 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 2: come up with to sum up the season. One of 691 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: the weirdest things I think I've seen in about twenty 692 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 2: odd years of Motor GP, and certainly the slow speed crash. 693 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, of all the things we're going to remember Valencia, 694 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: for a guy falling off his own bike on the grid, 695 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: breaking his own hand is going to be right up there. 696 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: A remarkable way to end the season, not with a bang, 697 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: but with a crunch. I suppose just to crash. 698 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: Well, and just a pathetically slow one at that. But yeah, 699 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: probably no such a grid silliness at Sandown, but I 700 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: must have been when we approach interested versus expert. I 701 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: thought to myself, I wonder what the weather was like 702 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: in Sandown. Then I remembered it was Sandown in Melbourne 703 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 2: in November. So it's going to rain at some point, 704 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: it's just a matter of when. But you mentioned the 705 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: Will Brown entry into the Grand Finalists before. What I'm 706 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: interested in is this, three of the names that are 707 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 2: in the Grand Final for Adelaide that I would have 708 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 2: predicted before the season and one that I absolutely would 709 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: not have. 710 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: Yes, and this is the most interesting part. And I 711 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,239 Speaker 1: feel like, if you are Supercars, you are getting one 712 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: hundred percent what you wanted out of this final. Absolutely 713 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: it is delivering precisely what you wanted. Not only because 714 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: we've had some really great jeopardy over the last two 715 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: rounds on the Gold Coast and Sanddown, will Brown being 716 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: a great example of having to get into that final four, 717 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: but you've got three drivers who absolutely you would expect 718 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: to be there and have been standout performers for the 719 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: year or late in the year. In brock Feene, unsurprisingly 720 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: he top the title standings chas mostts. Really strong late 721 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: finish really just in the finals has got him into 722 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: second place. In fact, he was briefly in top spot 723 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: on Saturday night after winning that race, and then Will 724 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: brown sneaking into third. Fourth though, is the rookie Kai 725 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: Allen from Grove not his teammate Matt Paine who ended 726 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: the Guess what we call the regular season the home 727 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: and away season doesn't make any sense. In second is 728 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: the championship standings. He's out. He's out of the finals, 729 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: somewhat controversially after a variety or one class anyway, with 730 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: Cam Borders who's also out, another driver you might have 731 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: expected to have taken that fourth place if not Matt Payne. 732 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: So we've got this tremendous random element in the Grand Final. 733 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: And the beauty, of course is when you crunch up 734 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: all the points, as they do at every finals round, 735 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: you close up all the drivers. Kaion's only fifty points 736 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: off the title lead, and we've got three races in Adelaide, 737 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: which is in a fortnight so not this weekend, but 738 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: the next. That's entirely achievable if you know, only needs 739 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: one weird result to happen to some of the other 740 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: finalists and he wins, and suddenly he's going to be 741 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: the favorite to be the champion out of nowhere in 742 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: his rookie season. And he has had a great rookie season. 743 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: It is worth saying he's really come on the second 744 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: half of the year. Now, you know, I love a spreadsheet. 745 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: I've been keeping my Supercar stat sheet up to date. 746 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: Spreadsheet World Champion. You are unofficially but. 747 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, even in the finals format, people will have 748 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: been wondering, and they will wonder at the end of 749 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: Adelaide no matter who wins the title. Okay, brock Phenie 750 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: wins the title, it's going to be pretty easy to say, well, 751 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: he would have won it in the normal format anyway, presumably, 752 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: although I will point out, considering how strong an ending 753 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: chas Moster's had to the season, if we were to 754 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: have regular points, he would be less than one hundred 755 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: points off the leads. Okay, a little bit distant, but 756 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: very much still within the possibility of pinching it. In Adelaide, 757 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be super comfortable for Phoenie, but you know, 758 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,919 Speaker 1: if he wins the title, we can say he's done 759 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 1: it old way in the new way. This is the standings. 760 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: If we had normal points, it would be Phoene mostered 761 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: and Brown, so exactly as has happened. So that sort 762 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: of immediately eliminates anyone who'd be saying, wow, it's all 763 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: artificial finals whatever, even if the points are closer. Unsurprisingly 764 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: it's then Matt Paine, who would have been in the 765 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: top four under the normal points. But then it's Kai Allen, 766 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 1: so he's only moved up one place in the finals. Whatever. 767 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: To call it the way we're doing the finals format 768 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: and eliminations, that's how strong an end of the year. 769 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: He's had a guy who only just snuck in. As 770 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: we talked, I guess two months ago now whenever it 771 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: was about as we went from Baptist into the finals 772 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: and he just got into the ten. He would have 773 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: been on merit fifth in the standings and potentially could 774 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: have finished fourth on merit as well in the finals. 775 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: He's now got a chance to win the championship. So 776 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: this isn't as as much as it's very much random 777 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: if you'd looked even only a couple of months ago 778 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: and Certney at the start of the season, he's there. 779 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm willing to say pretty much just basically on season 780 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: long merit, he's in that conversation. 781 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And I think the reason we perhaps pause 782 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 2: at that is at the start of the season, we 783 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 2: wouldn't have necessarily thought he'd be one of the four 784 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 2: that's still alive at this point. But you mentioned it before, 785 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 2: like if you were setting up a new format and 786 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 2: you wanted to script what you wanted for these final four, 787 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 2: the Grand Final with the final four drivers, it's absolutely 788 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 2: perfect because you've got guys with championship pedigree, You've got 789 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 2: someone in Moster who's come along really, really strong, and 790 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 2: then you've got this I don't want to use wildcards. 791 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 2: That makes it sound like it's a bit fluky, but 792 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: certainly not someone that expected. We expected to be there. 793 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 2: And they all have an equal opportunity for the biggest 794 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: prize in the last round, and you know that there's 795 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 2: going to be peril and all sorts of silliness and 796 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 2: controversy and everything else. It's perfectly set up. But I 797 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 2: like the mix of the drivers that are in this 798 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, we say this 799 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 2: all the time, we cheer the narrative here. Whoever wins 800 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: out of this four it's a good story, right, it 801 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: doesn't matter because in terms of where they've come from 802 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 2: late season resurgence, you know, defending champion really digging his 803 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 2: heels in with Sander and then someone who perhaps we 804 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 2: wouldn't have seen coming at the start of the season. 805 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 2: Four really good storylines. So yeah, it's going to be 806 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: super intriguing. And if you were going to draw up 807 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 2: an idea way to finish this season, it would look 808 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 2: a bit like this. 809 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've just gone back through my trustee spreadsheet. Kay 810 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: Allen finished in Bathurst, so this is when the finals, 811 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: the finalists were decided. He finished tenth. You've got into 812 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: the finals by three points, three points away from missing 813 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: the top ten completely and here he is with a 814 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: shot at winning the championship in the Grand Final. It 815 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 1: is remarkable. I just want to take you very quickly 816 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: through those finalists and what I thought was interesting this weekend, 817 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: well we talked about Ky Allen. Remarkable, he capitalized on 818 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: some bad luck from Matt Pain, just great results. He's 819 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: increasingly just his fall in the last couple of months. 820 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: He is just constantly there. Shows very astute for Grove 821 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: to have pinched him. I suppose from Dick Johnson Racing's 822 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: junior driver program for this year. Chasmstad though, is the 823 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: one I think is really interesting. He's clearly defining peaking 824 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: at the right time. He really only started winning in 825 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: a big way since we turned up to the finals. 826 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: He third winning a row was Saturday and Sandown, which 827 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: meant he knew he was going to the Grand Final 828 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: regardless of what happened on Sunday. That's how the rules work. 829 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting hearing him speak after 830 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: the race. As he said they then used Sunday to 831 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: test some things for Adelaide, so essentially had a day's 832 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: head start if you like, on the Grand Final, had 833 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: good pace, was a little bit unlucky with the switch 834 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: from drives to wets because his poor old team at 835 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: bryan Wood, who did help him to victory on Saturday, 836 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: had a pit stop problem. He was stuck in the 837 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: pit box, couldn't pit could moster it. But that doesn't matter. 838 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: He was in the Grand Final anyway. He's going to 839 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: start second. He's only how many points. Is he going 840 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: to start behind it's only twenty five points. I think 841 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 1: it is behind. No twenty points. I think you behind 842 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: brock FENNI. Brock Feennie though he's back to he's winning ways. 843 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: He hasn't won since Ipswitch, which was before even the Enduro's. 844 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: He's won again. He's won from pole, so it looks 845 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 1: like standard brock Feenie issued twenty twenty five. That's good 846 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: obviously for him coming into the Grand Final because he 847 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: needed that little No one say he's been out of form, 848 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: but just needed that little bit of momentum to charge 849 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: in there. And then we've already talked about Will Brown. 850 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: I mean he he could also argue he's peaking at 851 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: the right time, just not in qualifying. The race pace 852 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: is clearly there would be harder, I guess, as hard 853 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: as it is to pass a sand down, but it's 854 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 1: pretty difficult on the street circuit like Adelaide, much riskier 855 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: anyway if you want to pull off moves like that. 856 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 1: But if he can sort out his qualifying you would 857 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 1: almost notwithstanding the thirty five points is to brock Finil, 858 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: that's not very much. Is it almost call him to favorite? 859 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think we've got quite a few 860 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: contenders for favorite, so it's really well set up. You know, 861 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: if anyone was skeptical about the Grand Final format, where 862 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 1: you're entitled to be, obviously because it is a change. 863 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: But the outcome we've got, I think is simultaneously the 864 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: jeopardy you'd want from this kind of format as well 865 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: as being pretty representative of the form drivers at this 866 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: point in the year. 867 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 2: Well, and you can make a case for all four 868 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 2: and that's the beauty of all of these. You didn't 869 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 2: want it to be a situation where you're like, well, 870 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 2: it's probably one of two guys, and now the guys 871 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 2: are kind of making up the numbers. The evolving nature 872 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 2: of Adelaide's interesting too, because you mentioned the three races, 873 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: all of these predictions and where's this going to go 874 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 2: in points gap? This is going to be something that 875 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 2: shifts over the course of the event, which makes it 876 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 2: really interesting as well. So you know what happens early 877 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 2: in the weekend, how does that change what each driver 878 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,919 Speaker 2: needs to get out of the subsequent races. Yeah, it's 879 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 2: like I said, if you're going to come up with 880 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 2: a new format, you'd be pretty happy with the way 881 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 2: it's come. 882 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: Out, absolutely right. So the Grand Final is in a 883 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. But before we get to the Grand Final, obviously, 884 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: is this weekend's Las Vegas Grand Prix. And of course 885 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: the crystal ball, brought to you by Complete Home Filtration, 886 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be about this weekend's the race. Of course, 887 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: there's still a few weeks of racing to go. But Matt, 888 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: what's the crystal ball telling you? 889 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 2: Crystal ball's telling me that daytime Formula one is a 890 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 2: great thing. Actually, don't need a crystal ball to tell 891 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 2: me that it is a wonderful, wonderful thing. We mentioned 892 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 2: before how this is the least predictable of the three 893 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 2: Grand Prix we've got left to confirm a Formula One 894 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 2: champion this year. So my crystal ball is telling me 895 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 2: that we're going to have three different teams each have 896 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 2: one driver on the podium this weekend. 897 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 1: Oh, I like it. 898 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 2: And the reason I'm saying, and let's be honest, if 899 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 2: you're choosing three team, there's going to be three teams 900 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 2: out of four teams because the four teams that are 901 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 2: clearly and that's at a category A of the championship 902 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 2: I'm still thinking that Ferrari is going to have a 903 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 2: driver on the podium this weekend, which is probably against 904 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 2: the run of play, and certainly in obate. John elkn 905 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 2: will be pleased about that. I think I think Ferrari 906 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:41,959 Speaker 2: is going to be that we're gonna have a Ferrari 907 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 2: driver on the podium. Now, you mentioned the Lewis Hamilton 908 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 2: podium draft. Wouldn't that be quite something? But I'm going 909 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 2: to basically say one of those top four teams is 910 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 2: not going to have a driver on the podium this weekend. 911 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 2: And if the team that's not represented on the podium, 912 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 2: if we don't see McLaren up there, or we don't 913 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 2: see Max Bastappen up there, I won't mention Red Bulls 914 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 2: other driver because we don't care they don't either. If 915 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 2: it's a McLaren or a red Ball that misses out 916 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 2: on the podium, doesn't that shape what's going to come 917 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 2: for Qatar and Abi Dhabi coming up after that? But 918 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 2: your that's quite a sensible crystal ball by my standards. 919 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 2: I'm wondering if you're going to go a little. 920 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 1: Bit whack you well. I like to think that I've 921 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: put some have I really put any sort of rational 922 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: effort into my chrystal. I've certainly made them genuinely, but 923 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: have I thought deeply about them before? Not always? Sometimes, 924 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: but not always. And I can't believe I'm going to 925 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: say this about this week's crystal Ball, but I had 926 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: a dream yesterday that Lando Norris has one more DNF 927 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: in him. Oh boy, I'm not going to say when 928 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: it's going to happen. Doesn't have to, it doesn't have 929 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: to be this weekend. It may not happen at all. 930 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: It was just a dream. But this is my crystal ball, 931 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: is that Lando Norris's title campaign has one more DNF 932 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: in it. I wasn't the dream wasn't clear on the circumstances. 933 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: It was a very messy race. The track it's unfamiliar 934 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: to me, right, But that's that's my prediction, is that 935 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: there's one more twist and it's going to be another 936 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:07,720 Speaker 1: failure to finish. 937 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 2: Did your dream have a sad Sky Sports commentary soundtrack 938 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 2: and perhaps some violin explaining, because if it was that, 939 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 2: I'm on board with this. 940 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, because in my dream, I'd switch to 941 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: the F one TV commentary feed, as you can do on. 942 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 2: You don't need a crystal borderside whether that's a good 943 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 2: idea or not. But I'm super interested in this because 944 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 2: it does show that at the end of a season 945 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 2: where you've done about forty million races, give or take, 946 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 2: you're a little bit delirious at this point in November. 947 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,760 Speaker 2: So I do like the fact that work is invading 948 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 2: your subconscious in the rare time that a relatively new 949 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 2: father gets to sleep. But yeah, I'm more interested in 950 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 2: the soundtrack, and there's just a bit of oh dear 951 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 2: going on in the background when it all goes pair 952 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 2: shape for our Lando. So yeah, super interesting. And if 953 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,439 Speaker 2: that happens, then I'm going to be mining whatever else 954 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 2: you dream and perhaps go to toab or something because 955 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 2: there could be something in that. 956 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,959 Speaker 1: It will be very interesting. I'm more invested than usual 957 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: in the outcome of the next But that's all the time. 958 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: We have a bit talk today. You can subscribe to 959 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: bittalk wherever you get your favorite podcasts, and you can 960 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: leave us a rating and a review as well. This 961 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: weekend is the Las Vegas Grand Prix. You'll like this, Matt. 962 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: The antipenultimate round of the Formula One season. 963 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:17,919 Speaker 2: Oh, very good. 964 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,760 Speaker 1: Qualifying is at a very comfortable three pm on Saturday, 965 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: and the race also at three pm on Sunday. That's 966 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: Australian Eastern daylight time. You can keep up to date 967 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: with all the latestef one, Supercars and Moto TP news 968 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: at Foxsports dot com dot Au from Matt Clayton and 969 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: me Michael Lomonato. Thanks very much for your company. It'll 970 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: catch you next week.