WEBVTT - Outsiders | 16 February

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<v Speaker 1>On Sky News Australia starts now.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Outside, Good morning and welcome to Outsiders, the

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<v Speaker 2>show that is to cringeworthy political pr stunts designed to

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<v Speaker 2>make politicians look more human rather than focusing on their

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<v Speaker 2>terrible opinion polls. What Anthony Albanesi is too erotic? Since

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<v Speaker 2>Romance on Valentine's Day?

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<v Speaker 3>Who reached out first?

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<v Speaker 1>Who dresses the best?

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<v Speaker 2>This is?

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<v Speaker 1>But who's the much stubborn? Here's your biggest bunny fan?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, Romeo and Juliet, Anthony and Clear, Pat Track, Kathy.

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<v Speaker 3>And Heathcliff eat your hearts out? You've got nothing on

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<v Speaker 3>albow and Jody? Who said I love you first?

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<v Speaker 1>Same time? Same time? It was definitely the same time.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, who's one who had.

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<v Speaker 3>The best music taste?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>No, make it song?

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<v Speaker 7>Excuse me.

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<v Speaker 8>There's a little bit much for a Sunday morning. But

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<v Speaker 8>there's some good news that if the interrogators at Guantanago

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<v Speaker 8>Bay are looking for a new way to get people

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<v Speaker 8>to talk, well you just please, team they'll be begging

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<v Speaker 8>for Bercy.

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<v Speaker 9>Who gives Tita the most treats?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that would be me.

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<v Speaker 10>Who's most likely to get lost even using a GPS

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<v Speaker 10>I think we both.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty good on navigating.

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<v Speaker 9>You were too quick then I've never gone luft really

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<v Speaker 9>on the half of Gadie and I Happy Valentine Today Australia.

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<v Speaker 5>Happy Valentine's Stage one year since we got a game.

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<v Speaker 3>Who wants to throw up?

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<v Speaker 7>First?

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<v Speaker 2>And in the meantime, while Albow and Jody head off upstairs,

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<v Speaker 2>let's grab the lady outsid news. Ye anyway, even funnier.

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<v Speaker 2>Even funnier was this morning on Andrew Clenell's excellent show,

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<v Speaker 2>which we've just finished. Before us, both Peter Dutton and

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<v Speaker 2>Claire O'Neill of the Labor Party on a minister. We're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Kevin Right, our favorite person here on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>Dutton's of the opinion that Rudd should be punted or

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<v Speaker 2>heading towards that I certainly backed at onion Rubbs should

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<v Speaker 2>have been hunted long ago, will be punted mark these

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<v Speaker 2>words and deserves to be punted. Claire O'Neil, however, thinks differently.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's listen to the two points of view. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a very balanced show, so let's have a listen.

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<v Speaker 11>It's not a yes or no answer that can be given.

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<v Speaker 11>We have to have an ambassador who is in our

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<v Speaker 11>country's best interests. Kevin obviously is an accomplished person as

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<v Speaker 11>Prime Minister of our country, and if he's the best

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<v Speaker 11>person for the job, then he should stay in the job.

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<v Speaker 11>If it turns out that he's had no access to

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<v Speaker 11>the White House and no real influence in relation to

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<v Speaker 11>this issue or whatever the next issue might be, then

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<v Speaker 11>you would have to reassess his position. But at the

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<v Speaker 11>moment we're being told that he's effective in his advocacy

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<v Speaker 11>in the administration. I suppose time will tell.

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<v Speaker 2>So you'd make a judgment call once you hit off,

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<v Speaker 2>once you got some more information.

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<v Speaker 11>But having said that, my instinct would be to leave

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<v Speaker 11>him in the job. But if again, if there are

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<v Speaker 11>insurmountable problems that he has or that the administration has

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<v Speaker 11>with him, then that would make it very difficult.

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<v Speaker 10>There is not a single person on the planet that

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<v Speaker 10>I would have as Australian ambassador to Washington than Kevin Rudd.

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<v Speaker 10>Kevin Rudd is a global expert in relations regarding China,

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<v Speaker 10>which is of course one of the most important issues

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<v Speaker 10>that we confront and will continue to confront. He's one

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<v Speaker 10>of the most assiduous, hard working, diligent patriots of our country,

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<v Speaker 10>and he's doing a fantastic job.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Hyperba hyperball, Clara, you've just earned yourself a spot

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<v Speaker 2>on Hyperbare. That was hilarious, Clarina, Obviously you weren't talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Kevin Rudd. You're talking about someone completely different. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the same Kevin right, of course, who was so

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<v Speaker 2>said such horrible rude things about Donald Trump over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>and who, by the way, was a complete disaster of

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<v Speaker 2>a prime minister in this country.

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<v Speaker 5>Reader, he was knifed by his own, who is loath

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<v Speaker 5>by his own. No one hates Kevin Rudd more than

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<v Speaker 5>people within the Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 5>Here, and to suggest that his expertise with China makes

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<v Speaker 5>him fit to be ambassador in the year of what.

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<v Speaker 12>How does that?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe?

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<v Speaker 5>Send him to China, Send him to Beijing, then maybe

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<v Speaker 5>he'll do some good there if he's not accusing them

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<v Speaker 5>of rat effing him. Remember that we haven't forgotten that

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<v Speaker 5>that wasn't very diplomatic. The facts are that he has

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<v Speaker 5>been talking.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a first year arts student.

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<v Speaker 5>He has been spewing all sorts of absolute nonsense about

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<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump and the whole Maga movement, and he's not

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<v Speaker 5>going to be accepted because they know his form, they

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<v Speaker 5>are not going to have anything like a decent working

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<v Speaker 5>relationship with him. So for Peter Dutton to sort of

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<v Speaker 5>qualify whether he would stay or go, I think is

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit weak. I know he said, well, you

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<v Speaker 5>know the relationship is beyond mending, then he has to go.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty clear.

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<v Speaker 8>It is exactly really you said that nobody loves Kevin

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<v Speaker 8>rod Lake's former colleagues of the Liver Party, but nobody

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<v Speaker 8>loves loves Kevin Rudd more than Kevin Rudd. So not

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<v Speaker 8>forget that there. But you know, for Peter Dutton here,

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<v Speaker 8>I think he needs to remember who here is, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>running for the role of prime minister, and who is

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<v Speaker 8>actually in the role of diplomatic Peter Dutton's being far

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<v Speaker 8>too diplomatic, I think about that. Kevin Rudd I think

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<v Speaker 8>has been a debacle as the US ambassador, and for

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<v Speaker 8>a simple reason. You know, we know that he does

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<v Speaker 8>not like trust, want to talk to it all looks

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<v Speaker 8>down on Trump and the whole MAGA movement. You cannot

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<v Speaker 8>have somebody as our ambassador to our closest and most

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<v Speaker 8>important trading and strategic and economic ally without you know,

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<v Speaker 8>when that person is somebody who treats the government there

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<v Speaker 8>as a as hostile territory, it simply doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>Can put in a requests quickly, Rady? Can I put

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<v Speaker 2>in a request? Can Peter Dutton please get some new advises?

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<v Speaker 2>Playing seriously, seriously, Peter Dutton should be out there saying

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to get rid of Tomorrow, We've got to

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of him. Peter Dutton will be talking to

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<v Speaker 2>Professor and Plymber in a second about this, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>got some very strong views on this. But we should

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<v Speaker 2>be saying, Peter Dutton, Peter Dutton should be saying, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to pull out of Paris. We're going to follow America,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to abandon that zero because we are interested

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<v Speaker 2>in having a successful economy, not one that is hampered

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<v Speaker 2>and hammered by these ridiculous net zero targets which are

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<v Speaker 2>destroying the country, destroying our economy. And Kevin Rudd was

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<v Speaker 2>one of the ones who put us into Paris. He

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<v Speaker 2>should be punted. And Dutton should be man enough to

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<v Speaker 2>stand up and say I'm going to make Australia great again,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to do it by abandoning net zero,

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<v Speaker 2>pulling out of Paris, punting Kevin right, and the list

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<v Speaker 2>goes on, can we please get rid of these liberal advisors,

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<v Speaker 2>these bedwetters who sit around going, oh, let's just be

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit like kind of like the Teals and

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<v Speaker 2>let's be a little bit light labor. Let's be a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit Mike, Marc and Turnbull. And it didn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>You've failed.

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<v Speaker 2>Now get out and get some proper what's the word

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for, James back. I was going to say

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<v Speaker 2>kahonas I was going to practice my Spanish, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>back line into the liberal body so you can win.

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<v Speaker 1>My god, how hot is it? It is so exactly right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it is. You know.

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<v Speaker 8>The thing is, we don't have a lot of time here.

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<v Speaker 8>There's not a long time at all. And these are

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<v Speaker 8>positions which should have been staked out years ago, really,

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<v Speaker 8>like you know, around climate, and you've got all of this.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, there's so much anger out there in the

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<v Speaker 8>community about so many things.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 8>We're talking to you a little bit later about how

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<v Speaker 8>people in rural communities are absolutely furious about what's happening

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<v Speaker 8>to their land and their communities because of net zero,

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<v Speaker 8>the drive to put high voltage power lines through productive farmland,

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<v Speaker 8>to turn productive farmland into wind farms and solar farms,

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<v Speaker 8>and what it is doing to these people, these farmers

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<v Speaker 8>and our agricultural security, which is our food security, which

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<v Speaker 8>is our economic security, which is our national security.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot we saw being heckled Rita on a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days ago out there in Woollongong. We're beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>woo and Gong, wonderful, beautiful part of the world, as

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<v Speaker 2>gorgeous beaches of jering Gong all down there, Jambreu and

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<v Speaker 2>here you've got these clowns sticking these ridiculous windmills out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite rightly, the public said no, thank you to Albo.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one of the characters. Have a listen. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>The importance of the still industry for this electric My

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<v Speaker 9>message is very clear, which has Webb got your back.

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<v Speaker 7>We support blue collar jobs. Know that we support still works.

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<v Speaker 1>Here.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't think people who are shoutings.

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<v Speaker 2>No, the people were shouting and represent real Australians. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the people standing there in the group were the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that were flown in by the PR group. I imagine

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't know Rita.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, those offshore wind farms are enormously unpopular with anyone

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<v Speaker 5>who's unlucky enough to have it thrust upon their community.

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<v Speaker 3>And James, you said, people in.

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<v Speaker 5>The regional areas are very alarmed about what's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>All of us should be alarmed.

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<v Speaker 5>Just because you live in the big cities and you

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<v Speaker 5>don't drive out of a fifty kilometer radius too often,

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<v Speaker 5>you should not be ignorant about what's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here's why, regional areas.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's why.

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<v Speaker 8>Here's why, because you know these communities, Yes, they're all

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<v Speaker 8>getting torn apart by this stuff. But this whole net

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<v Speaker 8>zero push everybody who lives in the cities. It's in

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<v Speaker 8>the cities where we're being told, Hey, don't turn your

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<v Speaker 8>air conditioner on on a hot day, don't run the

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<v Speaker 8>dishwasher a certain hour if you don't mind. The whole

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<v Speaker 8>net zero agenda is about limiting what you can do,

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<v Speaker 8>and that affects absolutely everybody, whether you're a greenie living

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<v Speaker 8>in a terrace house in Paddington or if you are

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<v Speaker 8>living outside Guldburn or outside wherever in Country New South

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<v Speaker 8>Wales or Country Victoria or Country South Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>But also reads that net zero is the biggest tax

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<v Speaker 2>you can put on every single aspects of business. These

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<v Speaker 2>people complaining about, oh, Donald Trump's going to put on

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<v Speaker 2>tariffs on this, tariffs ain't nothing. Net zero is lastly,

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<v Speaker 2>much more amounts of money being crippling our industries, crippling

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<v Speaker 2>our manufacturing than ever tariffs will be a problem. It's

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<v Speaker 2>net zero that with that is what is destroying our

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<v Speaker 2>economy going forward. And we've got to get to grips

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<v Speaker 2>of that in the Liberal Party, and we've got a

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<v Speaker 2>man up and say this is the problem.

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<v Speaker 5>Right Well absolutely, and Tim Blair wrote a brilliant piece

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<v Speaker 5>through the week about how all these lefties from Labor, Greens,

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<v Speaker 5>the Teals upset about Trump's proposed tariffs on Australian still

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<v Speaker 5>an aluminium.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys want a carbon tax.

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<v Speaker 5>This is essentially a teeny tiny carbon tax. You think

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<v Speaker 5>you'd they'd be applauding it because suddenly all these greenies

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<v Speaker 5>and lefties are pro fossil fuel advocates.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was very interesting you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Not suggesting their hypocrites on I can't wait to talk.

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<v Speaker 5>More about this with professor and Plym after the break

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<v Speaker 5>can I just say one last thing on Kevin Rudd.

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<v Speaker 5>You would think it would be working over time to

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<v Speaker 5>repair relations, to try to redeem himselves in the eyes

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<v Speaker 5>of the GOP.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 3>Inauguration day he was at an inauguration.

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<v Speaker 5>Board the Starlight Barber All the heavy hitters were just

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<v Speaker 5>about every key Republican.

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<v Speaker 1>He was there for.

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<v Speaker 3>Less than an hour. He was there, barely talked to anybody.

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<v Speaker 5>Was there with Penny Wong, talked to Vivek Ramaswami, talked

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<v Speaker 5>to a bunch of Australians who were there and.

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<v Speaker 12>Gone.

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<v Speaker 5>You would think, and an event like that where every

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<v Speaker 5>sort of heavy hitter is in the under the same room,

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<v Speaker 5>you would be working in the room from from start

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<v Speaker 5>to finish, trying to just assure our greatest ally that

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<v Speaker 5>I apologize for what I said. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 5>I was thinking, but however you need to do to

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<v Speaker 5>redeem yourself to be there, to be present, to show

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<v Speaker 5>your supportive and you're on board.

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<v Speaker 2>But no that this week is sea Pack in America.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the Seapack conference. You remember. Outsiders was live at

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian Seaback. We had a great time and Seapack

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<v Speaker 2>in America is next week. That is where all the

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<v Speaker 2>Republican heavy hitters are. They'll all be there. That is

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<v Speaker 2>that is the holy from.

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<v Speaker 3>The start to finish for an hour. Protect you were.

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<v Speaker 2>There exactly so we will be. Outsiders will be crossing

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<v Speaker 2>live too Seapack next week chatting to Warren Mundane will

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<v Speaker 2>be there, Andrew Cooper and maybe others as well. You

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<v Speaker 2>never know. Hey, Kevin, how about you come on Outsiders

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<v Speaker 2>and chat to us live from Seapack. There you go, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see how keen you really are to get in

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<v Speaker 2>there with the new American administration. Albou. Meanwhile, you know

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<v Speaker 2>a great phone call you had there with Trump, albat

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<v Speaker 2>nice work. But a recovered from his disastrous phone call

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<v Speaker 2>with Trump by having tea with the teals. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>imagine at tea with the teals, James, they all came on.

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<v Speaker 1>What the fun that must have been?

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<v Speaker 2>In shame I wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 8>Can you imagine the absolute laugh a minute?

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<v Speaker 2>It was a smoaking seremony. Moniy Ryan could have led

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<v Speaker 2>the smoking seremary where they will breathe.

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<v Speaker 5>In chemical You're sorry for Anthony Albanize. It's not too

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<v Speaker 5>often I would say this, but I actually feel sorry

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<v Speaker 5>for the Prime minister. Can you imagine just being surrounded

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<v Speaker 5>by those trainers for how long would that would have?

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<v Speaker 12>That?

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<v Speaker 8>How much fun were you hang out with your modique

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<v Speaker 8>Ryan and Kylah till But you know, this is actually

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<v Speaker 8>really interesting to me because what this tells me is

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<v Speaker 8>that Albanezi is nervous. Nobody would subject themselves to the

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<v Speaker 8>deals if they didn't think, oh my lord, I'm going

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<v Speaker 8>to have to maybe make a deal with these people

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<v Speaker 8>sometime in the next coming you know, weeks or a

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<v Speaker 8>month or two to maintain my seats on the treasury benches.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a real this, I think.

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<v Speaker 8>And it goes to something else that's going on here,

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<v Speaker 8>which is that labor is now nervous apparently about.

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<v Speaker 1>A whole number seats here.

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<v Speaker 8>So yeah, so and this also confirms stuff that you

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<v Speaker 8>hear if you talk to people of the Liberal Party about,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, seats that they're confident about picking up. There's

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<v Speaker 8>a number of seats and some of them include Gilbour

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<v Speaker 8>and New South Wales been along in New South Wales

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<v Speaker 8>seats in Victoria that we're all little robertson very important seats.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>So there's seats there that are that now needs I

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<v Speaker 8>think twenty seats when it is all right, but there

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<v Speaker 8>I know also the Liberals are confidence about a number

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<v Speaker 8>of other seats that aren't even on this list. So

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<v Speaker 8>this goes to show just how concerned I think Labor

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<v Speaker 8>is right now about their state at the coming election.

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<v Speaker 8>And one of the really interesting things that we've seen

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<v Speaker 8>here is that if you look at some of that

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<v Speaker 8>seat by seat stuff that came out a few weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 8>the seats where Labor has the weakest holds are the

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<v Speaker 8>ones where the liberal or the electorate has the most

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<v Speaker 8>liberal positions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, Yeah, the definitely we've got to see. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the attack on the Teals is absolutely critical, but it's not,

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<v Speaker 2>as Rita keeps saying, it's not all about pandering to

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<v Speaker 2>the Teals. It's attacking the Teals on the points of

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<v Speaker 2>principle as to why they're wrong. I still have my letter.

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<v Speaker 2>I carry around my letter where the Teals all signed

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<v Speaker 2>the letter demanding more financing going to ANOIR if there

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<v Speaker 2>weren't anyone else to provide aid to Gaza. Now have

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<v Speaker 2>they retracted that letter, Have they said, oh, actually we

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<v Speaker 2>would like to see Nadeld' Anois around the world is

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<v Speaker 2>recognized as basically being a front for hamas have the

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<v Speaker 2>Teals step forward and apologize to the people in their

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<v Speaker 2>electorates for having gone down that route. So as we say,

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<v Speaker 2>if Labor wants to play foot seas with the Teals,

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<v Speaker 2>let every person and every Teal electric remember these people

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<v Speaker 2>will just guarantee you another labor government. If that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you want, vote Teal. If you don't want Labor, vote

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<v Speaker 2>the Teals out and make sure everyone you know, your

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<v Speaker 2>neighbors and your friends will always do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>They are poisoned.

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<v Speaker 5>I would go one step further. I do believe they're

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<v Speaker 5>poison like the Greens. In fact, the Greens and the

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<v Speaker 5>Tills is very little between them.

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<v Speaker 3>The Greens are just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>More radical, but they're both left of the Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 5>And you would much rather have Labor govern in their

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<v Speaker 5>own right than have to form any sort of a

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<v Speaker 5>coalition with the Tills or the Greens, because that would

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<v Speaker 5>be an even worse government than what we have seen

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<v Speaker 5>in the last few years.

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<v Speaker 2>And speaking of toxic lefties, Sydney City Council is basically

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<v Speaker 2>that's the clover More. Why the people of Sydney City

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<v Speaker 2>voted this person back into power as mayor. Absolutely I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot believe. But anyway, she's kind of moving towards some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of BDS light policy, which Jewish leaders are very

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<v Speaker 2>angry about.

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<v Speaker 8>James, Yeah, I mean, so this involves doing things like

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<v Speaker 8>scrapping their contracts with Hewlett Packard, which has links to Israel.

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<v Speaker 8>A number of companies I mean have links to Israel's

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<v Speaker 8>and you know, it's ridiculous because so much software and

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<v Speaker 8>computing technology is all developed in Israel. And this is

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<v Speaker 8>again part of some weird BADS thing. I thought we

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<v Speaker 8>had been done with the boycott devestment sanctions thing with

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<v Speaker 8>local councils years ago. I mean the old Merrickville Council

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<v Speaker 8>which is now the Inner West Council city they did

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<v Speaker 8>this ten fifteen years ago, you know, and they got

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<v Speaker 8>to chatted down for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Why in the middle of.

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<v Speaker 8>The situation that we're in right now with anti Semitism

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<v Speaker 8>in this country, you'd even think about this sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 8>I think is just appalling.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's a Greens led motion. Are we surprised this

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<v Speaker 5>is what they do? And we've got to really call

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<v Speaker 5>out any local council any local government entity that wants

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<v Speaker 5>to grandstand on national international issues, stay in your bloody lane.

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<v Speaker 5>If you want to be in that world, then go

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<v Speaker 5>stand for federal parliament. But if you're not good enough,

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<v Speaker 5>if you're in local government level, then focus on.

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<v Speaker 8>How about they do something in said boycotting Israel. How

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<v Speaker 8>about they do stuff to bring back nightlife and life

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<v Speaker 8>into city. It's still a debacle. Oxtra Street to debacle.

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<v Speaker 8>All those places are a debacle and you know they've

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<v Speaker 8>done nothing to fix that. Why don't instead of saying,

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<v Speaker 8>hey we're going to boycott Israel, why don't we say hey,

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<v Speaker 8>we're going to make it easier for you to open

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<v Speaker 8>a venue or do something and have some fun or

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<v Speaker 8>build something.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, exactly, no, you're absolutely right. The Sydney. It's

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<v Speaker 2>shocking in Sydney what they've done the Sydney. The ABC

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<v Speaker 2>costs Australians more than a Netflix subscription and forty percent

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<v Speaker 2>of Australians don't bother watching the ABC. I would have

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was higher than that personally, but this is again,

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<v Speaker 2>where are the liberals. Why aren't the liberals saying we

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<v Speaker 2>are going to put the ABC onto a subscription model

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<v Speaker 2>in the cities and we're going to only fund the regions.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a simple policy, it's understandable, it would make money

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<v Speaker 2>for the government, it would save the taxpayers a fortune,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is the right thing to do. Yes, by

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<v Speaker 2>all means support the BUSH where there's no other services

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<v Speaker 2>that's called the public service. But where you have adequate competition,

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<v Speaker 2>more than adequate competition, the taxpayer should not be funding

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<v Speaker 2>the ABC at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but I'll tell you so.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, it's so ridiculous too though, because even in

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<v Speaker 8>the regions, you know, the readers get sky.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a lot of sky where they don't.

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<v Speaker 8>But but but you know, and you talk to people

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<v Speaker 8>in the regions, they're all watching US, They're watching Scott

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<v Speaker 8>They're not watching ABC. You look the latest viewership numbers

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<v Speaker 8>of the ABC. You know, they're falling off a cliff.

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<v Speaker 8>That management there has no idea what they're doing. They're

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<v Speaker 8>on this huge government teap where they don't have any

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<v Speaker 8>you know, incentive for competition.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>The funny thing is, for some reason, I actually have

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<v Speaker 8>a Netflix subscription of us some signed up to watch

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<v Speaker 8>some one point.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't watch Netflix. I don't watch the ABC.

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<v Speaker 8>But at least I can at some point get around

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<v Speaker 8>to canceling by Netflix if don't want to pay for it.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly, it is absolutely abhorrent that we are all forced

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<v Speaker 5>to pay for this activist so called news service that

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<v Speaker 5>does not serve the needs of the Australian community, that

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<v Speaker 5>does makes a joke of its charter every single day.

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't think enough is said about this. The

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<v Speaker 5>ABC has a charter. It's not like Sky Channel ten,

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<v Speaker 5>Channel nine. They can be as left as right or

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<v Speaker 5>in between as they want to be. The ABC, being

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<v Speaker 5>government funded, is obliged by law to be balanced and.

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<v Speaker 3>To live up to its charter.

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<v Speaker 5>It refuses to, and both sides of government, both sides

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<v Speaker 5>of politics just kind of look the other way. Now

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<v Speaker 5>obviously it's Labour's interest to look the other way, but

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<v Speaker 5>the Coalision has been absolutely gutless on tackling this. Is

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<v Speaker 5>in fact that increased funding for the ABC. The most

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<v Speaker 5>they did for a short period was freeze funding and

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<v Speaker 5>the ABC had a three year tantrum about it and

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<v Speaker 5>then they increased it again.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you justify that? How do you not have

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<v Speaker 3>some accountability?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you can't justify it. And if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the logic of it. So the new figures are revealed

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<v Speaker 2>that the ABC lost one million viewers or listeners in

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<v Speaker 2>a single year with television and radio rates ratings plunging,

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<v Speaker 2>so that means the tax burden is increased because fewer

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<v Speaker 2>people are watching it, So those people who aren't watching

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<v Speaker 2>it are still paying for it, which means we're all

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<v Speaker 2>paying for something that fewer and fewer people are watching.

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<v Speaker 2>So the pure mass and logic says the Coalition must,

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<v Speaker 2>if they want to represent the people of Australia, say

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, we are putting this on a subscription model

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<v Speaker 2>to find out who really wants it. It's a simple policy,

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<v Speaker 2>you give up. Argentina has withdrawn from the World Health

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<v Speaker 2>Organization and Italy's threatened to. This is all following Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump doing the same thing. So around the world they

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<v Speaker 2>understand Pauline Hanson has the policy here in Australia we

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<v Speaker 2>should be withdrawing from the World Health Organization. You bet,

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<v Speaker 2>we should be, absolutely, But of course you won't hear

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<v Speaker 2>that from either of our major political parties. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to take a short break when we come back. Professory

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<v Speaker 2>and planning, you've got Reta's reality check. Lot's happening here

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<v Speaker 2>on our Siders. Don't go away back.

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<v Speaker 5>You're watching Outsiders with your hosts Rowan Dean, James Mora,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm Reachapaney. And soon we'll be talking all things

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<v Speaker 5>net Zany with the great Professor in Plymer. But first

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<v Speaker 5>to the thoroughly hopeless Albanezi government and the short sighted

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<v Speaker 5>opposition who are backing anti free speech measures with all

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<v Speaker 5>sorts of ugly consequences to supposedly tackle the anti Semitism

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<v Speaker 5>scourge instead of just ensuring that existing laws are implemented now.

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<v Speaker 5>This week, Australia was again making headlines around the world

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<v Speaker 5>for all the wrong reasons, thanks to another anti Semitic

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<v Speaker 5>incident involving two New South Wales nurses, this time making

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<v Speaker 5>the most vile claims and threats. Articles detailing the shocking

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<v Speaker 5>story were published far and wide, from The Jerusalem Post,

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<v Speaker 5>the New York Times, the BBC and The Times of India,

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<v Speaker 5>and sadly, Australia's reputation has taken a battering again.

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<v Speaker 3>It's taken a battering.

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<v Speaker 5>Since October ninth, twenty twenty three, when footage of anti

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<v Speaker 5>Israeli protest is chanting gas the Jews, or as some claim,

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<v Speaker 5>where are the Jews went around the globe. Since then,

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<v Speaker 5>a number of incidents have reinforced the perception that we

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<v Speaker 5>have a growing antisemitism problem in our mids. Sadly, Jews

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<v Speaker 5>around the world now perceive Australia very differently to just

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<v Speaker 5>eighteen months ago. Certainly in Israel, they are all too

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<v Speaker 5>aware of the dozens of incidents that have come to light,

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<v Speaker 5>including acts of arson, docsing of Jewish creatives, and attacks

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<v Speaker 5>against Jewish students. I was in Israel in mid December

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<v Speaker 5>and was shocked by how local attitudes to Australia had

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<v Speaker 5>changed since my last visit. Many believe that Australians are

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<v Speaker 5>now hostile to Jews and to Israel, and they were

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<v Speaker 5>relieved to learn that most of us haven't fallen for

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<v Speaker 5>leftist pro palestin in propaganda. The Albanese government failure to

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<v Speaker 5>confront a small but loud minority of anti Semites has

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<v Speaker 5>done a great deal of damage to Australia's reputation, and

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<v Speaker 5>now they're trying to address this issue in the most

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<v Speaker 5>short sighted, hand fisted way imaginable by introducing new laws

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<v Speaker 5>that essentially limit free speech. Only last week, Labour, together

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<v Speaker 5>with the Coalition, pass more so called hate speech laws,

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<v Speaker 5>ostensibly to tackle anti Semitism, but anyone with a modicum

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<v Speaker 5>of foresight can see how such laws will be used

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<v Speaker 5>and misused to attack religious freedom with a chilling effect

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<v Speaker 5>on free speech. The Australian Association of Christian Schools was

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<v Speaker 5>among those groups raising concerns about the legislation, knowing full

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<v Speaker 5>well how such laws are used to silence and intimidate

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 5>everyday Australians. Yet it seems both Labor and the Coalition

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:55.920
<v Speaker 5>are blind to the law of unintended consequences. They pass

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<v Speaker 5>that ill advised legislation last week, and now they're teeming

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<v Speaker 5>up again to propose more bad legislation that will be misused.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Approximately five minutes after becoming law, a proposal to tougher

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<v Speaker 5>workplace laws to encourage universities to sack anti Semitic staff

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<v Speaker 5>is hair brained.

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<v Speaker 3>To say the least.

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<v Speaker 5>We already have laws in place, including against intimidation and

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<v Speaker 5>incitement to violence, to tackle the anti Semitism scourge. We

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<v Speaker 5>need authorities to actually start implementing these existing laws rather

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<v Speaker 5>than creating new ones. So effeckless politicians can pretend that

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<v Speaker 5>they have tackled this issue.

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<v Speaker 3>Free speech is.

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<v Speaker 5>A fundamental human right. We cannot afford to trample on

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<v Speaker 5>it further and pretend it's an easy fix to an

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<v Speaker 5>insidious problem that deserves a far more serious response. The

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<v Speaker 5>Coalition in particular cannot afford to push legislation that is

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<v Speaker 5>not in line with liberal values.

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<v Speaker 2>One would have.

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<v Speaker 5>Hoped that Peter Dutton would have learned from the Turnbull

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<v Speaker 5>government's desire ustrous appointment of leftist activist Julianeman Grant as

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<v Speaker 5>e Safety Commissioner, an office that was remember created to

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<v Speaker 5>protect vulnerable children online but quickly morphed into an activist

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 5>outfit that has used taxpayer funds to silence Australians sharing

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<v Speaker 5>mainstream views online, including statements of fact like.

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<v Speaker 3>Men cannot breastfeed.

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<v Speaker 5>Curbing the free speech of all Australians will do nothing

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<v Speaker 5>to meaningfully address the deep seated anti Semitism that exists

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<v Speaker 5>in small but loud segments of our society, and talking

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<v Speaker 5>about the Coalition compromising its core values, they cannot afford

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<v Speaker 5>to have their chances that the upcoming federal election weakened

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<v Speaker 5>by the tiny band of smaller liberals who continue to

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<v Speaker 5>frustrate efforts to deliver clear messages to the electorate. Let's

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<v Speaker 5>consider what happened in the Senate this week when the

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<v Speaker 5>majority of Coalition senators swung behind Pauline Hans's push for

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<v Speaker 5>an inquiry into trans treatments for children in this country.

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<v Speaker 5>This was essentially just seeking a referral to a committee

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<v Speaker 5>for a hearing, that's it. But a small number of

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<v Speaker 5>bedwetters that have consistently voted with Labor and the Greens

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<v Speaker 5>in the Senate on critical cultural issues, well they were

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<v Speaker 5>at it again. And these people repeat offenders, I hate

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<v Speaker 5>to say. Pauline Hanson's motion to establish a real inquiry

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<v Speaker 5>into the human cost of experimental child gender treatments in

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<v Speaker 5>Australia in order to give victims and their families of voice,

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<v Speaker 5>was voted down by Labor, the Greens, the likes.

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<v Speaker 3>O Lydia Thorpe and a number of.

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<v Speaker 5>Liberal senators, Yes, Liberal senators standing against an inquiry into

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<v Speaker 5>radical experimental gender treatments on children.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking just an inquiry, that's all this was.

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<v Speaker 5>And these are treatments that have been stopped in other countries,

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<v Speaker 5>including the UK under a Labor government.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's name.

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<v Speaker 5>These five senators who fail to back the motion. We've

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<v Speaker 5>got Andrew Bragg from New South Wales. We've got Richard

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 5>Colbeck from Tasmania, Maria Kovicic from New South Wales. They

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<v Speaker 5>all join Labor and the Greens to vote against emotion,

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 5>while two others and Rusten from South Australia Jane Hume

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 5>from Victoria, missed the vote. If the Coalition cannot be

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<v Speaker 5>sound and consistent on this issue, on this issue when

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 5>eighty percent of the population is on side, then it's

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<v Speaker 5>not only lacking conviction, but blind to obvious political opportunities.

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<v Speaker 5>And before I go, let's have a quick look at

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 5>how under President Ronald Trump, the US Army is abandoning

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<v Speaker 5>its suicideally woke recruitment ads and going with ads like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a look at this later, stad.

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<v Speaker 1>Stronger people are hard to kill.

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<v Speaker 5>Stronger people are harder to kill games. Stronger people are

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<v Speaker 5>harder to kill.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you love that?

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<v Speaker 5>What a departure from the lunacy we had just a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of years ago. This is how they tried to

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<v Speaker 5>recruit under Biden and guess what, it didn't go too well.

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<v Speaker 13>Although he had a fairly typical childhood took ballet, played violin.

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<v Speaker 1>I also marched for equality.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to think I've been defending freedom from an

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<v Speaker 2>early age.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you are to take the subtle difference there? Just

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<v Speaker 3>a subtle difference.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what, even before the new Ads, as

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<v Speaker 5>soon as Donald Trump secured his second term, recruitment numbers

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<v Speaker 5>went through the roof. You see, Trump was clear about

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<v Speaker 5>his vision for the country, his vision for the armed forces,

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 5>and his triumph saw a big surgeon Americans joining the army. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 5>in December twenty twenty four, the US Army had its

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 5>best recruiting number in twelve years. In January that had

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 5>their best recruiting numbers in fifteen years. See Leadership matters,

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<v Speaker 5>strength matters, and respecting the wishes of the majority, also

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 5>known as democracy matters. Something for our politicians to ponder.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent reta. Well, we're now joined by geologists Professor Ian

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<v Speaker 2>Plymer live here in the studio. Ian, great to have

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<v Speaker 2>you here, as always tell me about that tie of yours.

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<v Speaker 2>It's caught my eye and the viewers will want to

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<v Speaker 2>know the full story. There I've set you an opening here.

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<v Speaker 1>To mar A Lago Club tie.

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<v Speaker 13>I've been to mar Lago a couple of times, and

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<v Speaker 13>I wear this tie on important occasions today, as she

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<v Speaker 13>accept of course.

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<v Speaker 2>And you were most recently there for the inn.

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<v Speaker 13>I was in Washington for the inauguration. It started with

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<v Speaker 13>a rally, a pretty cold night, and it was interesting

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<v Speaker 13>to see the profile of the people. These were disenfranchised people.

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<v Speaker 13>These were people who were suffering from the high electricity costs,

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<v Speaker 13>from unemployment, from basically a deluded leader. And these people

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<v Speaker 13>really are getting supported by a leader called Trump. And

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<v Speaker 13>he's a phenomenon. We will not see the likes of

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<v Speaker 13>another Trump again in our lives, an absolute phenomenon. And

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<v Speaker 13>he does something which our politicians could learn from. He

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<v Speaker 13>makes a promise and he actually sticks to it. Now

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<v Speaker 13>that's really unusual. And we're all here waiting for our

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 13>two hundred and seventy five dollars. That was a promatus.

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 13>No one's got that money. So Trump is just bulldozing

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<v Speaker 13>through policy which people knew he was going to do.

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<v Speaker 13>Now at his rallies, these were incredible, warmed up by

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<v Speaker 13>people like Elon Musk, Meghan Kelly who view you as

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<v Speaker 13>would know as a regular on Paul Murray Live. It

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<v Speaker 13>was absolute phenomenal and here is a man that can

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<v Speaker 13>have the crowd eating out of his hand, and he

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<v Speaker 13>does something very unusual. He speaks the truth and people

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<v Speaker 13>actually like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's promised, he's already pulled out of the Paris Agreement,

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<v Speaker 2>he's abandoned at zero. What can the coalition learn from

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 13>In Well, I can learn an enormous amount. The US, China, India,

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<v Speaker 13>they're not in Paris. We once had the cheapest, most

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<v Speaker 13>reliable energy systems in the world. We had coal giving

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<v Speaker 13>us very cheap power in Victoria, a little bit more

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<v Speaker 13>expensive in New South Wales and Queensland and Western Australia

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<v Speaker 13>and South Australia.

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<v Speaker 7>But we had cheap power.

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<v Speaker 13>We have lost that because people have followed an ideological path.

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<v Speaker 13>And this ideological path allegedly is underpinned by science. Now,

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<v Speaker 13>if you follow the science, there is no science that

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<v Speaker 13>demonstrates that human emissions.

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<v Speaker 7>Drive global warming. Why are we doing it?

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<v Speaker 1>So we're seeing countries.

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<v Speaker 13>Like Germany and the UK go out backwards because they're

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 13>following this renewables path. Trump has used something that's very

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 13>very rare. It's called common sense, and going down the

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:16.280
<v Speaker 13>path was saying we have cheap coal. We have plenty

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<v Speaker 13>of oil, not much uranium in the US, but they

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<v Speaker 13>imported from Canada and the US as only following the

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 13>cheapest path for energy that leads to a big manufacturing industry.

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<v Speaker 13>We have no manufacturing industry now in this country because

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 13>we've destroyed our energy system. So mister Dutton has to

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<v Speaker 13>think very carefully about Paris. He actually has to think

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<v Speaker 13>very carefully about the farms we are destroying with solar

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<v Speaker 13>panels and wind turbines and power lines going across them.

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<v Speaker 13>And James has had his hand up four times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the boy at the back, I'm.

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<v Speaker 8>Going to ask you about this because I want your

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 8>author I want your opinion on you know, what should

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<v Speaker 8>Peter Dutton then be said, because he has said in

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<v Speaker 8>the past he's going to stick around in Paris because

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<v Speaker 8>you know, while we're in it, it is too hard

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<v Speaker 8>to change or whatever. Yet, what I'm really interested in,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, I don't know geology, but I do know

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<v Speaker 8>something about economics and business. BP has said we are

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<v Speaker 8>retreating from net zero. Macquarie Bank and all of these

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 8>banks around the world are all say we are pulling back.

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<v Speaker 1>From net zero.

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<v Speaker 8>We are going to invest in fossil projects again, because

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<v Speaker 8>that's where the money is. And if we don't have energy,

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<v Speaker 8>we're not going to have economies. Why do you think

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<v Speaker 8>the Coalition seems to be trying to garner votes in

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<v Speaker 8>these sort of inner city seats where they still care

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<v Speaker 8>about Paris, when it's out of the regions that people

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<v Speaker 8>are saying, no, we've got to get out of this

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<v Speaker 8>because this is destroying our communities, it's destroying our economy,

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<v Speaker 8>it's strong our future.

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<v Speaker 13>Well ready to touch on it in her editorial, the

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<v Speaker 13>Parliamentary Liberal Party has wits. They're in the Senate and

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<v Speaker 13>they're in the Laoah House and it's very hard for

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<v Speaker 13>the leader sometimes to lead on matters of principle which

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<v Speaker 13>are going to be for the benefit of the country,

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<v Speaker 13>when you've got wet who are in the wrong party.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Dutton should lead.

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<v Speaker 13>He should say, as a matter of principle, we want

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:08.359
<v Speaker 13>people to have cheap electricity in this country. We don't

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<v Speaker 13>want these jaw dropping electricity bills that people are getting

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<v Speaker 13>because of renewables.

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<v Speaker 7>We want to have energy.

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<v Speaker 13>Supporting industry and creating jobs. And he has to lead,

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<v Speaker 13>and if he doesn't want to lead, he can then say, well,

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<v Speaker 13>we have the biggest economy in the world just dropping

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<v Speaker 13>that zero. We have growing economies like China and India

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<v Speaker 13>that are not having that zero. China's building coal power

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<v Speaker 13>stations like they're going out of fashion. We need to

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 13>rebuild coal fired power stations. We need to have nuclear.

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 13>We need to have a huge amount of baseload power

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<v Speaker 13>with a peak load coming from gas and from hydro.

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 13>Now we once had that system. Electricity was cheap. It

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<v Speaker 13>isn't and we're all paying. And some people are paying

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<v Speaker 13>with their jobs, some farmers and are losing their productive

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:59.919
<v Speaker 13>capability because they're getting these massive new power lines put

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<v Speaker 13>over their properties.

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<v Speaker 1>To bring renewable energy.

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<v Speaker 13>From somewhere out in the Donga into the cities, and

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 13>they can't operate equipment underneath those power lines, so they've

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<v Speaker 13>lost acreage and they've lost areas which produce food.

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<v Speaker 7>This is an absent travesty.

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<v Speaker 13>A lot of the votes are in the areas around

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<v Speaker 13>the edge of cities and in semi rural areas. Mister

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<v Speaker 13>Darton should think callously and think, I want to chase

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 13>the traditional labor vote. And these people are being destroyed

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 13>by labor policies. Why should we have the Libs as

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<v Speaker 13>a labor light, which currently they are.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we've seen that political realignment in the US, we've

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 5>sent it in the UK, we've sent it in Australia.

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<v Speaker 5>The Liberal Party seems to be the last bunch of

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 5>people to know that there has been a switch.

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:48.800
<v Speaker 3>Those inner city affluent areas are going.

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 5>Left and the working middle class are increasingly going right.

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<v Speaker 5>What about the argument they may put forward, while we

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<v Speaker 5>don't need to leave Paris, we can still have these

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 5>net zero target it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we'll get there via nuclear. What's your response to.

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<v Speaker 13>That, Well, that argument is invalid because nuclear is going

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<v Speaker 13>to take a long time. The second thing is you

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:13.839
<v Speaker 13>can leave Paris very very easily. It's no difficulty at all.

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:16.759
<v Speaker 13>And the third thing is we have to think of

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 13>the punter, and the punter gets an absolute shock when

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 13>they look at the electricity bill. The QUICKI you can

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 13>bring that down, the better the more coal we can

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:26.919
<v Speaker 13>put into the system, the better we have coal fired

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 13>power stations. They are discriminated against because they're black, and

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 13>we shouldn't have that sort of discrimination, as we're told,

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 13>And so we are actually destroying systems which can provide

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<v Speaker 13>us with cheap twenty four to seven power and making

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 13>it very expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be done.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh a boy at the back of the cheeky one.

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<v Speaker 2>Sir, sir, we saw Albow being heckled by about windmills.

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Now Donald Trump has said that's it. No more windmills.

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 2>They kill whales. They're inefficient. If you believe in the

0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:00.399
<v Speaker 2>carbon nonsense, they create as much as they suppose. We save.

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Albo is being heck. You're right that labor is so

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 2>vulnerable because there's so many traditional labor, blue collar supporterers

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:13.399
<v Speaker 2>who don't buy this stuff. So again, why is it

0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 2>that windmills, for example, and Bowen's entire kind of solar

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 2>panels explain why this can never work?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, Bowen is supporting China with solar panels and windmills,

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:30.880
<v Speaker 13>and they're being supported at our expense. It won't work

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 13>because the sun doesn't shine all the time. It's pretty

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 13>obvious that we have wind routs, so we can't provide

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 13>electricity twenty four to seven. The second thing is that

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:44.319
<v Speaker 13>the extra grunt that you get from wind and sol

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:47.280
<v Speaker 13>is not that that you get from coal and nuclear

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 13>and gas. So if you want power for an industrial economy,

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 13>seabreezes and sunbeams don't do it.

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<v Speaker 7>They don't have enough energy.

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<v Speaker 13>Now, mister Bowen is a very interesting character.

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 7>Because he's the best thing the liberals of God, and.

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 1>He should stay there.

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:08.240
<v Speaker 13>And following this ridiculous ideology with people in marginal seats

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.720
<v Speaker 13>looking at the electricity bill saying I'm going to vote

0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 13>on my electricity bill, and that can be capitalized on

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 13>by the opposition.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a vote winner.

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<v Speaker 8>Turt it on that electricity on that you know, that

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 8>that grunt you talked about about the electricity. It seems

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<v Speaker 8>to be also just bizarre that at the same time

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<v Speaker 8>they're doing all of this net zero stuff, whi's going

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 8>to reduce our electricity, building produced power up. They're forcing

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<v Speaker 8>us all or trying to force people into evs, many

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<v Speaker 8>of which again come from China, and I was just

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<v Speaker 8>reading earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a whole.

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 8>New range of Chinese evs that come flooding the market

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<v Speaker 8>here because of the way they wrote the laws, so

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:49.919
<v Speaker 8>you can have hybrids get the tax benefit, but only

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 8>the evs. This seems like we are trying to make

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<v Speaker 8>everything more electric while we're making our electricity less reliable.

0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:58.360
<v Speaker 1>It seems suicidal to me.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, I didn't know outside the studio. You're black two

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 13>door V eight Mustang, so obviously you have an evs

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 13>are really not for a country like Australia unless you

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 13>do a couple of kilometers in the city and that's it.

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:23.360
<v Speaker 13>So evs are very expensive. They depreciate very quickly. We

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 13>don't have a reliable power supply for them. If you

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 13>dent underneath them, you basically have to throw the whole

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 13>vehicle out. If you dent your Mustang, well it'll probably

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 13>fall apart. But they're just not economical, and most countries

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 13>are trying to avoid having evs yet bringing in legislation

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:46.720
<v Speaker 13>to make it more expensive to have an internal combustion engine.

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Yet they are more away from it now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, oh dear, this is what you mentioned, the two

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:56.799
<v Speaker 5>hundred and seventy five dollars gift that we never got

0:41:56.960 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 5>the reduction in our inch bils. Never mind that my bills,

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 5>and I would imagine the bills of many of the

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:08.880
<v Speaker 5>people watching have shot up by well, in my case,

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 5>well over one thousand dollars. So forget about the two

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 5>hundred and seventy five whenever're going to have a reckoning

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 5>about the actual increases we've seen, and what sort of

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:22.719
<v Speaker 5>an opportunity does that present for the coalition in a

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 5>cost of living election that they keep telling us this

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 5>is all about cost of living.

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 13>Well, it's a wonderful argument they can use. Where's my

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 13>two hundred and seventy five dollars? You were promised this

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 13>two hundred and seventy five. What has happened to your

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 13>electricity bills gone up? These people are destroying your jobs,

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:44.360
<v Speaker 13>they're destroying your income, they're destroying your family, They're destroying

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 13>this country. They should be taking the line of attacking

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 13>very savagely that renewables don't work. Every time we put

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:52.760
<v Speaker 13>in more renewables.

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 7>The cost of electricity goes up.

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<v Speaker 13>It doesn't become more reliable because if you have no sun,

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 13>it doesn't matter how much you've got there, you're not

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 13>going to get more power. If you've got no wind,

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:03.919
<v Speaker 13>it doesn't matter how much you've got there, you won't

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 13>get more power.

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:08.920
<v Speaker 5>We should stop calling it renewable and start calling it intermission.

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 13>The great thing about renewables is that the subsidition just

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 13>keep coming, so they are renewable.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, tell us about investment. Because you work for many

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:25.480
<v Speaker 2>many years in the mining industry around the world. You

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 2>know how mining investments and a big business manufacturing investment

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:35.799
<v Speaker 2>what they're looking for. Can you please explain the absolute

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 2>carnage that net zero is doing to international investors. Now

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:42.800
<v Speaker 2>that you can look at Trump, they can go to America,

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 2>they can go to China or India, all around the

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 2>world without being burdened by these prices.

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<v Speaker 13>What investment is very fickle, It moves very quickly. We

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<v Speaker 13>had a couple of years ago the Japanese ambassador commented

0:43:57.160 --> 0:44:00.840
<v Speaker 13>that this is becoming a very expensive country and uncertain

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:03.879
<v Speaker 13>countries who invest in and the Japanese have been very

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 13>big investors in this country, and he was right. Japanese

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 13>money has gone elsewhere. We do not invest in our

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:12.760
<v Speaker 13>own country. Despite the fact we've got trillions in super

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:13.799
<v Speaker 13>we do not.

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Invest in it.

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 13>We have major projects that need money that create jobs,

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:22.759
<v Speaker 13>create taxation.

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:25.280
<v Speaker 7>We don't invest in our own country.

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 13>We have American money, Japanese money, Korean money, money from

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:29.920
<v Speaker 13>the UK.

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 7>And that is going elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 13>And in my field, if I have a geological idea

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.319
<v Speaker 13>and then do all the drilling and put everything into

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 13>practice and go through all the economic evaluations from that

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 13>idea until we start to earn money. It's twenty five years,

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 13>so you cannot change the investment rules overnight, which is

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 13>what labor is doing, because it'll be our children and

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:56.879
<v Speaker 13>grandchildren who suffer from that, and they don't care. They're

0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 13>only interested in the three year term. And this is

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 13>why you can not vote for someone that is not

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 13>a leader and doesn't have vision. And this is where

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 13>our a liberal party really have to lead and have

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:11.840
<v Speaker 13>a vision for the nation, not for getting re elected.

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<v Speaker 2>Step up lives in climate Professor Plymber. Always great to

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<v Speaker 2>chat to you here in the classroom, here in Professor

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<v Speaker 2>Bline in classroom on Oursider's fantastic, thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see you soon, and coming up after the break

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<v Speaker 2>a bit more and net Zany madness, wacademia left you

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<v Speaker 2>lunacy or here on Outsiders back in a text, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back to net Zany, the crazy world of net zero,

0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:42.839
<v Speaker 2>where we now learn in America they're facing what they're

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 2>calling snow oblivion. So you've got massive amounts of snow,

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 2>six feet of snow across thirty US states, massive winter storms.

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 2>But of course let's all focus on global warming.

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<v Speaker 8>James, you know, it's so funny to me when you

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:03.880
<v Speaker 8>see these stories about you know, snow oblivion or Snowmageddon

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 8>or whatever they call it, you know whatever, they have

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 8>these big blizzards, because for years and years and years

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 8>we've been told, oh, children who were born ten years ago,

0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:15.319
<v Speaker 8>we'll never see snow again because of global warming. And

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:17.439
<v Speaker 8>you know, it's it's the whole sort of double game

0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:19.399
<v Speaker 8>that they play. It's like, oh, well, there's not gonna

0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 8>be a snow because of global warming. Oh we've had

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:24.400
<v Speaker 8>a blizzard. Oh well, you know that blizzard that's also climb.

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:28.800
<v Speaker 5>That's what we had to go from global warming to

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 5>climate change to explain.

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 8>All the absolutely never forg about six months when they

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 8>tried to make a climate chaos. It sounded like some

0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 8>sort of superhero climate chaos.

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:45.680
<v Speaker 5>We had even a more hyperbolic one, didn't we fromm Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Global boiling, boiling, boiling, global boiling occurring with and it's

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<v Speaker 4>also not forget I wish we actually had the grab up.

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<v Speaker 8>But do you recall a certe in Australia the year saying,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, our dams will never.

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<v Speaker 2>Fit and it is marketing and Queensland at the moment

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:07.400
<v Speaker 2>and the Queenslanders were told, along with the rest of

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Australia back in the early two thousands. We were told

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:14.880
<v Speaker 2>that's it, folks, it's permanent drought now because of engine

0:47:14.960 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 2>and we spend people White people buy this garbage. Is utterly, utterly.

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 8>Belo Why do they think people have the memories of

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:23.239
<v Speaker 8>goldfish that they don't remember what they saw us they

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:24.680
<v Speaker 8>told us thirty seconds.

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:28.800
<v Speaker 5>Before, because so many do, and the media works over

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:32.800
<v Speaker 5>time to make sure that's the case. If the media

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:38.720
<v Speaker 5>were honest practitioners here, they would be holding these predictions,

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 5>hauling these people, making these predictions accountable.

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 2>But they they just bury them. What they call it

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:44.759
<v Speaker 2>memory holding.

0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 12>Whatever.

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 2>But what is interesting about this We talked with Professor

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Plimer there about how Macquarie Bank here in Australia. Apparently

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 2>they were quite quiet and timid about it. They should

0:47:53.560 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 2>have been yelling it from the rafters, yelling it from

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 2>the rooftops. We're getting out of net zero. Invest in

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:00.839
<v Speaker 2>our bank because we're smart enough to realize we're out

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:02.880
<v Speaker 2>of that zero. That's what Macquarie should have done. But

0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 2>of course the bedwet is on the Macquary board route.

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<v Speaker 8>But it is fascinating. You know, right now this is

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 8>part of the Trump effect. The Trump offender is not

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 8>only with this, but also you see this with company

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 8>after company the United States. Google I think was one

0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:19.880
<v Speaker 8>of the most recent was all say, all of that

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 8>DEI stuff, all of the you know, all of the

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 8>preferential treatment based on race and sex and gender and

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 8>identity and all that, that's all gone. Now everybody has

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 8>realized suddenly, you know, this is kind of like the

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 8>Berlin Wall falling. Everybody has realized, we don't have to

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 8>believe this stuff anymore. We don't have to mount the

0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 8>words of the regime.

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<v Speaker 1>It's over, it's done. And I think that's part of Australia.

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 3>Yet, well not in Australia we are again the outlier.

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 5>But the looking at what the money USAID was distributing,

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:56.399
<v Speaker 5>where that's going, It really is just established. So much

0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 5>of this left wing agenda, this so called progressive war

0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:04.320
<v Speaker 5>insanity that we've all been dealing with. It's not organic,

0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:07.720
<v Speaker 5>it's not grassroots. It's very much fed by a small

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 5>group of activists who have relied on taxpayer funds, using

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:13.359
<v Speaker 5>our own money to shove this.

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Crack down question the USA, I D so the new

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:22.280
<v Speaker 2>climate change guy, sorry Lee Zellen, who's the new climate

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:25.360
<v Speaker 2>energy guy, and Trump's regime has said that he's just

0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:28.800
<v Speaker 2>canceled wait for this Reta and James a fifty million

0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 2>dollar Biden era environmental justice Climate Justice Alliance thing which

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:40.320
<v Speaker 2>was all about climate justice travels through a free Palestine.

0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:46.680
<v Speaker 8>So this is well, that's more than the revelations about us.

0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:50.520
<v Speaker 8>It have been shocking because has been this huge slush

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:53.879
<v Speaker 8>fund for the left. There's this amazing thing here that's

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:55.759
<v Speaker 8>happened now. If you go and you look at real

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<v Speaker 8>estate listings around Washington, d C. They have been flooded

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<v Speaker 8>with new listings of billion dollar plus hobbs that are

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<v Speaker 8>on the market because suddenly all of this money, all

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<v Speaker 8>of this griff has been cut.

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<v Speaker 2>And all the people on the boards of all these

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<v Speaker 2>NGOs who've been sitting there taking tax dollars pays. I

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<v Speaker 2>bet it's the same in Australia. And I can't wait

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<v Speaker 2>for just Enterprice to get into par into government and

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<v Speaker 2>be in a position which Dunton has promised, where they

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<v Speaker 2>will start doing the same thing here and investigating government inefficiency.

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<v Speaker 2>The Canbra swamp. We have the highest paid public servants

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<v Speaker 2>in the world.

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<v Speaker 5>It's to have the appetite to actually tackle it. We

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<v Speaker 5>talked about the ABC before they know what the ABC does.

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<v Speaker 5>They know it's costs over a billion dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 5>They've made absolutely no.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have dropped some character from the end, so

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<v Speaker 2>looking for you finally because he had had some dubious artworks.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad about that tiny little win. But anyway, we

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<v Speaker 2>take the small wins where we can. Back after the

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<v Speaker 2>break in a tick. Hello, you're watching Outsiders with Triage

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<v Speaker 2>Nurse Panahee, Locum Register Morrow and myself fake doctor Dean.

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<v Speaker 2>The story of the two nurses at Bankstown Hospital is

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<v Speaker 2>no laughing matter, well not for any of us who

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<v Speaker 2>might one day be their patience. That is. I know

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen the video many times, and in the immediate aftermath,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a distinct lack of an outpouring of heartfelt

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<v Speaker 2>apologies or outraged condemnation of the pair from all those

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<v Speaker 2>so called Muslim community leaders, mayors and members of parliament.

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps they'd been shamed into silence, but other members of

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<v Speaker 2>the Islamic faith angrily took to social media to somehow

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<v Speaker 2>suggest that the video was a put up job, or

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<v Speaker 2>the actions have been provoked or whatever. The police played

0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:44.359
<v Speaker 2>some ridiculous game of wanting to see the full video

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<v Speaker 2>before pressing any charges. Will the E Safety Commissioner suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>pop up and start demanding the video be taken down

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<v Speaker 2>as she did over the last outrage by an Australian

0:51:56.239 --> 0:52:00.280
<v Speaker 2>migrant in the Western Suburbs threatening violence against another Australia allion.

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<v Speaker 2>That attack on Bishop Mari Mari. We shall see. But

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<v Speaker 2>on Friday, the Israeli man involved released the full unedited video.

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<v Speaker 2>So here it is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, man good, Harry wo Man pretty good?

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<v Speaker 14>Are you a nurse?

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<v Speaker 1>A doctor?

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<v Speaker 15>I'm a doctor moment?

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<v Speaker 1>A doctor for what?

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<v Speaker 2>In hospital?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>What? What? What? What about you? Where you're from?

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<v Speaker 14>I'm from Israel, from the whole land.

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<v Speaker 15>You know what, I'm gonna be really honest with you,

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<v Speaker 15>all right, I'm gonna be really honest with you. You

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<v Speaker 15>actually got a really really beautiful eyes. But I'm so

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<v Speaker 15>upset that Israeli like eventually you're gonna get killed and

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<v Speaker 15>you're gonna go to Jehanna Mia. I think it's pretty honest.

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<v Speaker 15>I should stay in this, in this world for longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think? Why do you think I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get killed.

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<v Speaker 14>Because Sarla one day God will maybe because I served

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<v Speaker 14>in the IDEF That's why that definitely correct, that's the reason,

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<v Speaker 14>because I served in the idea of what's the what's

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<v Speaker 14>the problem with that?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the issue with that?

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<v Speaker 3>I killed innocent paper.

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<v Speaker 1>That was protecting my country.

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<v Speaker 3>So you kill innocent people to protect your country? What

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<v Speaker 3>what kind of soul do you have? You have no soul?

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<v Speaker 14>In the war, people die as you know, they started

0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:23.240
<v Speaker 14>the war. Hundred who started?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, your time will who started?

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<v Speaker 1>Who started this war?

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<v Speaker 3>You guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Who elected Hamas? Who elected Hamas?

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<v Speaker 3>It's Palestine country.

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<v Speaker 1>Not.

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<v Speaker 5>What her name.

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<v Speaker 14>We're talking politely here, We're talking politely here.

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<v Speaker 2>One day, one day.

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<v Speaker 5>One day, one day, time will come and you will

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<v Speaker 5>die the most.

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<v Speaker 14>You sprayed hate, we sprayed positivity, We spread protection, We spread.

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<v Speaker 3>This intimate pimate.

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<v Speaker 8>And you spread when the time comes, how are you doctors?

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to remember?

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<v Speaker 14>Have okay, okay, I have a question though, all right,

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<v Speaker 14>all right, for sure, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a question.

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<v Speaker 16>Though.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question.

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<v Speaker 14>Let's say let's say an Israeli.

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<v Speaker 2>God forbid them.

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<v Speaker 3>I won't treat them, I'll kill them.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll kill them.

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<v Speaker 14>So if an Israeli is in the in Australia and

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<v Speaker 14>that's forbid, something happened to him and he comes to

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<v Speaker 14>your hospital, would you kill him?

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<v Speaker 15>Okay, you have no idea how many Israeli A dog

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<v Speaker 15>came to this hospital and.

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<v Speaker 2>Nahanna, As far as I'm concerned, the unedited version, that

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<v Speaker 2>version is even more damning than the original edited version.

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<v Speaker 2>In the edited version, you could perhaps imagine that some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of heated exchange or provocation had occurred, that it

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<v Speaker 2>may be fired off the anti Semitic trade, but that

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<v Speaker 2>clearly didn't happen. What is so chilling in the unedited

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<v Speaker 2>version is how casual and ordinary two nurses in their comments,

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<v Speaker 2>their threats, and their boasts. It was the German philosopher

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<v Speaker 2>Hannah arent who coined the phrase the banality of evil

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<v Speaker 2>during the trial of Adolf Eichmann, and it seems even

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<v Speaker 2>more fitting here. These two nurses could, for all the world,

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<v Speaker 2>be in any online chat room talking about a football game,

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<v Speaker 2>or a new set of rules at work or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>The true horror of what they are not only suggesting

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<v Speaker 2>that casually bragging about is the stuff of absolute nightmares,

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<v Speaker 2>yet so commonplace and acceptable to them is the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of murdering Jews, that they have no hesitation in chatting

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<v Speaker 2>to a complete stranger about it. And the only conclusion

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<v Speaker 2>I could make is that they have either heard, said

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<v Speaker 2>or thought such ideas so many times before that they

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<v Speaker 2>are totally immune to the absolute barbarity of what they

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<v Speaker 2>are suggesting. Commonplace. How commonplace are these views and how

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<v Speaker 2>commonplace is this hatred of Jewish people by Muslim Australians.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the most fundamental question that this video raises.

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<v Speaker 2>Dr Jimal Reefi, a prominent and widely respected Muslim Australian,

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<v Speaker 2>was adamant that these views are not commonplace.

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<v Speaker 17>These two people do not represent the view that is

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<v Speaker 17>held in the Muslims community. The majority of the Muslim's community.

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<v Speaker 17>They have condemned what they have done and they don't

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<v Speaker 17>agree with it, and we don't hold these view whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 17>We would like to be part of the society we enjoy,

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<v Speaker 17>or we're living in Australia or we're offspring living in

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<v Speaker 17>here and we'll want to be part of nation building.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome those comments and I hope they are widespread, But

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately there's plenty of evidence that Dr Reefe is perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>unaware of how widespread the hatred of Jews is in

0:56:57.680 --> 0:57:02.920
<v Speaker 2>various Australian Muslim communities. Obviously, not every public health worker

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<v Speaker 2>who supports a Palestinian state or demonstrates against the war

0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:10.160
<v Speaker 2>in Gaza wants to go around murdering Jews or wishes

0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:14.520
<v Speaker 2>any harm to any of their patients. But if I

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<v Speaker 2>were Jewish, I would probably not be too keen to

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<v Speaker 2>go into a hospital staffed by medics and nurses who

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<v Speaker 2>are so passionate about their support for Palestine that they

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<v Speaker 2>are eager to take to the streets like this character

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<v Speaker 2>in the group.

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<v Speaker 16>Of colleagues of mine for Nurses and Midlife for Palestine

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<v Speaker 16>in October twenty twenty three. Maintain your rage, continue to

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<v Speaker 16>stand on it super In short, a sinus terrorists and

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<v Speaker 16>their reprehensible actions are held.

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<v Speaker 1>To it, it counts.

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<v Speaker 2>Nor if I were Jewish would I be particularly thrilled

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<v Speaker 2>to be triaged by this character? And if I were

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish and I met this security guy at the emergency

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<v Speaker 2>door of the hospital with his political pro Palestine badges

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<v Speaker 2>on full display, I might decide to go home and

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<v Speaker 2>see my GP instead. Speaking on this network last week,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Kroger made a terrifying claim.

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<v Speaker 18>I just saw an email from someone who was going

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<v Speaker 18>to have an operation there. A Jewish man have an

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<v Speaker 18>operation there a few years ago under the Liberal government,

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<v Speaker 18>by the way, not under men's. He canceled his operation

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<v Speaker 18>at Bankstown Hospital because a friend of his who worked

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<v Speaker 18>at the hospital said, if a Jewish don't come here,

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<v Speaker 18>they spit on the food of the Jews before it's delivered.

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<v Speaker 18>They don't do mandatory post ops. They leave their beds

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<v Speaker 18>soiled for as long as they possibly can. They make

0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:43.720
<v Speaker 18>life as difficult as possible for Jewish patients. So he said,

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<v Speaker 18>I canceled my operation of the hospital because of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So again we must ask how commonplace is this stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Far too common, that's for sure. One brave nurse, Sharon Stollier,

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<v Speaker 2>raised the alarm about precise this level of anti semitism

0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:06.280
<v Speaker 2>within New South Wales hospitals months ago, but instead of

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<v Speaker 2>the health bureaucrats doing something about it, she became the

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<v Speaker 2>subject of multiple complaints and the regulators ended up harassing

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<v Speaker 2>her and investigating her.

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<v Speaker 19>I raise the alarm about this not long after October

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<v Speaker 19>seventh happened when nurses and midwives were chanting from the

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<v Speaker 19>River to the Sea while wearing New Southwest Health uniforms.

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<v Speaker 19>I wrote an open letter to nurses and midwives explained

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<v Speaker 19>that this chant is a call for the annihilation of

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<v Speaker 19>Jews and that they should not be shouting this genocidal chat.

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<v Speaker 19>I ask for the end of a genocidal chat by

0:59:39.280 --> 0:59:43.080
<v Speaker 19>New South Wales health staff while wearing their uniforms. Instead,

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<v Speaker 19>I get for more corrective comments and threats of jail time.

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<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable and the process is always is the punishment. She

0:59:50.320 --> 0:59:54.680
<v Speaker 2>gets punished. Dare to criticize antie Israeli extremism and you

0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:58.160
<v Speaker 2>yourself become the problem. That's how they think here. Just

0:59:58.200 --> 1:00:00.760
<v Speaker 2>like when New South Wales police are host did none

1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:04.400
<v Speaker 2>of the vile opera house mob chanting wears or gas

1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:06.480
<v Speaker 2>the Jews or whatever right in front of them, But

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<v Speaker 2>instead they arrested that one lone guy, Mark Spiro, who

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<v Speaker 2>we had him on the show, you'll remember, who was

1:00:12.040 --> 1:00:15.280
<v Speaker 2>carrying an Israeli flag to an event supposed to commemorate

1:00:15.400 --> 1:00:18.600
<v Speaker 2>the Israelis who died on the after October seventh problems.

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<v Speaker 2>But back to the two Bankstown nurses, they have now

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<v Speaker 2>had their registration suspended by the New South Wales Nursing

1:00:25.080 --> 1:00:29.880
<v Speaker 2>at Midwifrey Council. Albo's Health Minister Mark Butler said quote,

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<v Speaker 2>they're sickening comments and the hatred that underpins them have

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<v Speaker 2>no place in our health system and no place anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia. Fine words, except Mark, it appears they do

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<v Speaker 2>have a place in Australia, certainly under your labor teals government,

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<v Speaker 2>on the streets and in the campuses of our main cities.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, again, if I were Jewish, I would think

1:00:52.640 --> 1:00:56.280
<v Speaker 2>twice about placing my life, or my health, or even

1:00:56.560 --> 1:00:59.800
<v Speaker 2>an order in a restaurant in the hands of, for

1:00:59.800 --> 1:01:37.880
<v Speaker 2>a example, the parents of this little girl. On my

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<v Speaker 2>Friday show this evening seven pm last Friday, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can catch it on skynews dot com dot I use streaming.

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<v Speaker 2>I spoke about the catastrophic failure of multiculturalism in this country,

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<v Speaker 2>primarily because integration and assimilation became dirty words under labor

1:01:55.360 --> 1:01:57.960
<v Speaker 2>and I received a huge amount of correspondence from many

1:01:58.000 --> 1:02:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Australians of mixed heritage and immigrant backgrounds supporting precisely what

1:02:03.040 --> 1:02:06.600
<v Speaker 2>I was saying. One man wrote to me, quote, my wife,

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<v Speaker 2>a migrant, has heartily embraced the Australian culture, loves Australian

1:02:11.640 --> 1:02:14.320
<v Speaker 2>values and loves what it means to be Australian, even

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<v Speaker 2>though she doesn't quite grasp the concept of cricket. He

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<v Speaker 2>goes on to say, we watch with dismay as certain

1:02:20.880 --> 1:02:24.360
<v Speaker 2>other newcomers to this country have trashed it. We are

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<v Speaker 2>the story of what it means to immigrate to this

1:02:27.240 --> 1:02:30.960
<v Speaker 2>country and to integrate. We are a mix of different

1:02:31.000 --> 1:02:35.000
<v Speaker 2>backgrounds and languages and marriages, all making one happy, wonderful

1:02:35.160 --> 1:02:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Australian story. Great letter. I couldn't agree more. But he

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<v Speaker 2>then goes on to include this quote, which is that

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<v Speaker 2>assimilation creates a harmonious, coherent culture, which is fantastic. That's

1:02:48.600 --> 1:02:54.000
<v Speaker 2>what Australia wants. But multiculturalism is a jungle in this quote.

1:02:54.200 --> 1:02:58.080
<v Speaker 2>It encourages the competition of cultures, and like it or not,

1:02:58.440 --> 1:03:02.240
<v Speaker 2>it is usually the most ruthless and intolerant culture that

1:03:02.360 --> 1:03:06.080
<v Speaker 2>wins the game. Let us hope that that is not

1:03:06.280 --> 1:03:09.680
<v Speaker 2>our fate here in Australia. But rather than dampening down

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of anti Israeli hatred that appears to be

1:03:13.640 --> 1:03:19.160
<v Speaker 2>prevalent throughout certain ethnic communities. Due hatred, the weak and cowardly,

1:03:19.200 --> 1:03:22.680
<v Speaker 2>and even I'd argue corrupt politicians have inflamed it in

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<v Speaker 2>Britain this week, for example, there is a horrible story

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<v Speaker 2>in the Daily Mail about the shocking extent of anti

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<v Speaker 2>Semitism at the heart of the British Health Service, the NHS,

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<v Speaker 2>And at the same time there is huge consternation in

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<v Speaker 2>Britain because six people are being let in from Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>Six the Albanzi government is bringing in three thousand people

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<v Speaker 2>from Gaza. Finally, could there be a more poignant and

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<v Speaker 2>terrifying juxtaposition between that video of the nurses spewing that

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<v Speaker 2>murderous hatred in a calm and commonplace manner and the

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<v Speaker 2>vote only a few days before in Parliament about the

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<v Speaker 2>need to crack down on Nazis and swastikas and u

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<v Speaker 2>so called hate speech laws in Australia and mandatory sentences

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<v Speaker 2>but recklessly uttering words that lead to violence. Personally, I

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<v Speaker 2>would far rather know what people like those two nurses

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<v Speaker 2>are thinking. People we may be rubbing shoulders with on

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<v Speaker 2>the bus or heaven forbid, in the triage room. Yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>it was reported that a vile of morphine was found

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<v Speaker 2>in the male nurses locker by police. So what happens

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<v Speaker 2>to these two nurses next? If charges are laid and

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<v Speaker 2>a jury finds them guilty, do these two idiots then

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<v Speaker 2>get locked up for a mandatory jail sentence? And then

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<v Speaker 2>what what about all the others out there who share

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<v Speaker 2>their precise views? Do the police start rifling through all

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<v Speaker 2>their social media posts start laying charges? How many people

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<v Speaker 2>in Sydney will be frantically scrubbing their Facebook accounts if

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<v Speaker 2>they haven't already? Or what if the two nurses are

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<v Speaker 2>charged but then found not guilty because they haven't met

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<v Speaker 2>the legal definition of hate speech? What then, or worse,

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<v Speaker 2>if no charges are laid for whatever obscurities? And what

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<v Speaker 2>message does that send? Firstly to the Muslim but far

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<v Speaker 2>more terrifyingly to the Jewish community of Australia. Dark days

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<v Speaker 2>lie ahead thanks almost entirely to the cowardice of the

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<v Speaker 2>Labor Party and the pathetic, pusillanimous leadership of Albanesi Wong

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<v Speaker 2>and the treacherous teals. Personally, I believe the most basic

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<v Speaker 2>remedy is repeated, meaningful public denunciations of anti Semitism from

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<v Speaker 2>not only all sides of politics, but as a fundamental

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<v Speaker 2>requirement of all Muslim clerics, all Muslim politicians, and all

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<v Speaker 2>Muslim community leaders. And this must be done without the

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<v Speaker 2>accompanying woke moral equivalent nonsense about Islamophobia. Here's a thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's replace all those meaningless welcome to countries at every

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<v Speaker 2>school opening, footy man zoom meeting, whatever, with a warm

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<v Speaker 2>and heartfelt welcome to Australian Jews. Only half joking. But

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<v Speaker 2>before any of that, we must have an immediately immediate

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<v Speaker 2>halt to immigration from any and all countries where anti

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<v Speaker 2>Semitism is rife, and that includes first and foremost Gaza. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're joined now by the center of the American Experiment,

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<v Speaker 2>President John, President John Eidenrager. Hi, you're doing well, John,

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<v Speaker 2>You're doing very well. Listen, I want to ask you

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<v Speaker 2>very first up the hostages that have just been released

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<v Speaker 2>and the twelve o'clock deadline that passed here a few

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<v Speaker 2>hours ago where Trump threatened hell breaking, lucive, all the

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<v Speaker 2>hostages were not out. What's happening? The three hostages are out?

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<v Speaker 2>Where the rest and when's hill breaking? Loose?

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<v Speaker 20>Well, Rowan, I, honestly I was a little bit disappointed

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<v Speaker 20>what Trump said. They got to release all the hostages

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<v Speaker 20>by noon. I'm thinking to myself, high noon. You know,

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<v Speaker 20>that's a phrase that resonates with Americans, but it didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 20>The Hamas is proceeding with this, you know, dribs and drabs,

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<v Speaker 20>a hostage here, a hostage there. And what Trump said

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<v Speaker 20>today is that he's leaving it up to the Israelis.

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<v Speaker 20>If the Israelis want to unleash hell on the gozens,

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<v Speaker 20>we will be with them. But he's deferring to the

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<v Speaker 20>Israelis in terms of how they want to respond.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's the thinking about how they will respond.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, honestly, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 20>I meant Ya, who's been under tremendous domestic pressure to

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<v Speaker 20>try to bring the hostages home and to some extent

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<v Speaker 20>that has impeded Israel's war efforts there in Gaza. And

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<v Speaker 20>one thing we don't know is how many of the

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<v Speaker 20>hostages are even still alive. It's a terrible, terrible situation,

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<v Speaker 20>and Yetnya, who has been trying to deal with it,

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<v Speaker 20>manage it for a long time now, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 20>sure how it's going to play out. The only thing

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<v Speaker 20>I'll tell you for sure is that if the Israelis

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<v Speaker 20>do decide to end the cease fire and go back

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<v Speaker 20>to war and finish the battle against Hamas and the

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<v Speaker 20>Ghazans that the Trump administration will support.

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<v Speaker 5>Them, and President Trump has also said he wants to

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<v Speaker 5>see an end to the war in Ukraine. He's already

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<v Speaker 5>had discussions with Vladimir Putin. President Zelenski has just tweeted

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<v Speaker 5>that he's begun working with President Trump's team and can

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<v Speaker 5>already see the success is attainable, and he thanks America.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you see that war ending in Ukraine?

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<v Speaker 20>I think it's going to end, reader. I think both

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<v Speaker 20>countries wanted to end. It's been a disaster. The Russians

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<v Speaker 20>thought they would they would march right into Kiev and

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<v Speaker 20>they failed, and then the Ukrainians thought they were going

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<v Speaker 20>to win a brilliant victory, and then they got stymied.

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<v Speaker 20>For a long time. Now, it's basically been trench warfare,

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<v Speaker 20>close to a million casualties. It's been a disastrous conflict.

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<v Speaker 20>Both sides want out. I think Trump is going to

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<v Speaker 20>give them the excuse that they need to end the war.

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<v Speaker 20>And the outlines of the settlement are frankly pretty obvious.

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<v Speaker 20>Ukraine is going to have to give up a little

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<v Speaker 20>bit of the eastern part of its country to Russia,

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<v Speaker 20>and Zelensky has already expressed willingness to have that be

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<v Speaker 20>part of the discussion. I think Ukraine is not going

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<v Speaker 20>to become a part of NATO, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 20>what the details of the of the peace agreement will

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<v Speaker 20>be if there is a peacekeeping force in place. One

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<v Speaker 20>thing that we know from the Trump administration is that

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<v Speaker 20>any peacekeeping force is going to be European, not American.

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<v Speaker 8>James and just bea at least to Secretary of State

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<v Speaker 8>Marco Rubio. And I never thought i'd expect him to

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<v Speaker 8>be doing such a good job on this portfolio, but

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<v Speaker 8>here we are. He's just landed in Tel Aviv just

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<v Speaker 8>a few hours ago. What message do you think that

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<v Speaker 8>he is going to be delivering to the Netanyahu government

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<v Speaker 8>about America's expectations for a ending this conflict, but be

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<v Speaker 8>also ending Hamas's threat to continually undermine peace and stability

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<v Speaker 8>in the entire region.

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<v Speaker 20>Well, I think Rubio's message is going to be one

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<v Speaker 20>of unqualified support. Unlike the Biden administration, which was constantly

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<v Speaker 20>threatening neat Yaho and leaning on the Israelis not to

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<v Speaker 20>proceed effectively in their war, which Gaza of course started.

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<v Speaker 20>Israel didn't start this war. I think Rubio is there

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<v Speaker 20>to assure neat Yaho in his administration is Security Cabinet

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<v Speaker 20>that the United States is behind them all the way.

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<v Speaker 20>And I think the United States, the Trump administration, like

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<v Speaker 20>the people of his we all want to see a

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<v Speaker 20>resolution of this endless problem they've got with Hamas. You know,

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<v Speaker 20>this has been going on for year after year after year,

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<v Speaker 20>and it's got to be brought to an end. And

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<v Speaker 20>I think the proposal that Trump put out there for

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<v Speaker 20>America to take over Gaza and turn it into a

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<v Speaker 20>tourist resort. You know, I'm not sure how serious a

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<v Speaker 20>proposal that is. What I think it conveys, though, is

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<v Speaker 20>that the Trump administration wants to finally resolve this horrible,

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<v Speaker 20>horrible problem that Gaza has been for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course John Rubio's next stop is Saudi Arabia,

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<v Speaker 2>so we should see a strengthening of the Abraham Accords

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<v Speaker 2>happening there, maybe a full blown alliance. Who knows, but

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<v Speaker 2>tell us about all the panic that is set in

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<v Speaker 2>from all the lefty organizations, the NGOs, as Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 2>rips into them and takes away all the amounts of

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<v Speaker 2>money that have been fed to these dubies, dodgy, transgenderal

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<v Speaker 2>wherever and work political garbage is terrifying. Seventy percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the American public are behind backing and supporting Ela Muskindosh

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<v Speaker 2>tell us your take on it.

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<v Speaker 20>Well, it's glorious, isn't it. The Democrats are basically admitting

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<v Speaker 20>that they are in favor of waste and corruption and

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<v Speaker 20>fraud and the American people. I think it's been quite

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<v Speaker 20>a revelation to see where so much of our money

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<v Speaker 20>has been going, and to see the role that's played

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<v Speaker 20>by the permanent bureaucracy and these agencies. These agencies are

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<v Speaker 20>to be found nowhere in the Constitution and the kinds

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<v Speaker 20>of things you're talking about, the trans opera in Colombia,

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<v Speaker 20>the transmic book in Peru. If you look at the bill,

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<v Speaker 20>the statute that funded the US Agency for International Development,

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<v Speaker 20>there's nothing in there about trans operas.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 20>They just give billions and billions and billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 20>to these agencies, and the left wingers who run these agents,

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<v Speaker 20>the permanent staff of these agencies, distribute these many billions

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<v Speaker 20>of dollars to support their friends on the left and

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<v Speaker 20>to support their ideological causes. And I think we've known

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<v Speaker 20>this for a long time, but the details are shocking.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean even I have been.

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<v Speaker 20>Shocked, frankly by the extent of the corruption that is

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<v Speaker 20>now coming to light.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, apparently James was just saying before the property prices

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<v Speaker 2>falling rapidly plummeting in Washington, d C. As only nngas

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<v Speaker 2>set off and get out. So John, you might want

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<v Speaker 2>to pick up a quick little foggy bottom use I

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<v Speaker 2>see yourself there. Great to chat to you as always,

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<v Speaker 2>John Heindereiker, coming up up to the bright James, don'tkey Vick.

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<v Speaker 2>We got Ralph talking to us from Europe as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I can take.

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<v Speaker 12>Hello.

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<v Speaker 8>You're watching outside us with your host Srita panihy Row

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<v Speaker 8>Indan and of course I'm James Morrow. Well, as far

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<v Speaker 8>as I'm going, there's only one big story out of

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<v Speaker 8>Washington this week, and it's actually Washington when it goes

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<v Speaker 8>to Europe. Vice President jd Vance has just delivered an

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<v Speaker 8>absolute haymaker of a speech in Munich laying down the

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<v Speaker 8>law to the European Union and NATO members who four

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<v Speaker 8>years have been banging on about how they are defending

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<v Speaker 8>democracy all while undermining it every day in their very

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<v Speaker 8>own nations.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 8>Vance was the US's representative at the Munich Security Conference,

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<v Speaker 8>but he did not deliver the expected polite speech full

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<v Speaker 8>of approved nostrums and talking points about Ukraine and fighting

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<v Speaker 8>the far right, whatever that means. Instead, Vance came offering

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<v Speaker 8>a sort of and I think there's only one word

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<v Speaker 8>for this, an intervention. Yes, it was an intervention like

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<v Speaker 8>you might do with a family member with an addiction problem.

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<v Speaker 12>Only hear the.

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<v Speaker 8>Family member wasn't an uncle or a not or a

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<v Speaker 8>son with a drinking problem or a nasty coke habit,

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<v Speaker 8>but instead it was Europe from which our shared Western

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<v Speaker 8>civilization sprung, but which has lately developed its own terrible

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<v Speaker 8>addiction to censorship, third world migration, and social control. Now,

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<v Speaker 8>in his speech, Vance told this incredible story about a

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<v Speaker 8>man in Scotland who was arrested for silently, yes that's right,

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<v Speaker 8>silently in his own head praying near an abortion clinic,

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<v Speaker 8>and how later people who lived in the area and

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<v Speaker 8>in other areas around abortion clinics were told to report

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<v Speaker 8>anyone they knew doing anything similar, even in their own home.

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<v Speaker 2>This is chilling.

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<v Speaker 21>Two years ago, the British government charged Adam Smith Connor,

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<v Speaker 21>a fifty one year old physiotherapist and an Army veteran,

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<v Speaker 21>with the heinous crime of standing fifty meters from an

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<v Speaker 21>abortion clinic and silently praying for three minutes, not obstructing anyone,

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<v Speaker 21>not interacting with anyone, just silently praying on his own.

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<v Speaker 21>After British law enforcement spotted him and demanded to know

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<v Speaker 21>what he was praying for, Adam replied simply, it was

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<v Speaker 21>on behalf of the unborn son he and his former

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<v Speaker 21>girlfriend had aboarded years before.

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<v Speaker 22>Now, the officers were not moved.

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<v Speaker 21>Adam was found guilty of breaking the government's new buffer

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<v Speaker 21>zones law, which criminalized a silent prayer and other actions

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<v Speaker 21>that could influence a person's decision within two hundred meters

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<v Speaker 21>of an abortion facility. He was sentenced to pay thousands

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<v Speaker 21>of pounds in legal costs to the prosecution. Now, I

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<v Speaker 21>wish I could say that this was a fluke, a

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<v Speaker 21>one off, crazy example of a badly written law being

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<v Speaker 21>enacted against a single person.

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<v Speaker 1>But no.

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<v Speaker 2>This last October, just.

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<v Speaker 21>Few months ago, the Scottish government began distributing letters to

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<v Speaker 21>citizens whose houses lay within so called safe access zones,

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<v Speaker 21>warning them that even private prayer within their own homes

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<v Speaker 21>may amount to breaking the law. Naturally, the government urged

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<v Speaker 21>readers to report any fellow citizens suspected guilty of thought crime.

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<v Speaker 21>And Britain and across Europe, free speech.

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<v Speaker 2>I fear is in retreat.

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<v Speaker 8>Amazing stuff. And by the way, if you think of

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<v Speaker 8>being hyperbolic, here's the letter that Vance refers to that

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<v Speaker 8>people in Scotland got, warning them that indeed a private

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<v Speaker 8>place such as a house could be considered a prayer

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<v Speaker 8>free zone if it was too close to an abortion clinic.

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<v Speaker 8>Now Vance is right, free speech is in retreat across Europe,

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<v Speaker 8>and almost every week on this program we bring you

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<v Speaker 8>new examples of the Orwellian thought control apparatuses being brought

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<v Speaker 8>to bear on a population, a population that is beset

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<v Speaker 8>by terrorism and knife crime, but where the real problem

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<v Speaker 8>for the authorities seems to be what crime. Here's more

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<v Speaker 8>of what Vance had to say about this.

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<v Speaker 21>And unfortunately, when I look at Europe today, it's sometimes

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<v Speaker 21>not so clear what happened to some of the Cold

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<v Speaker 21>Wars winners. I look to Brussels, where EU Commission Commissars

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<v Speaker 21>Warren citizens that they intend to shut down social media

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<v Speaker 21>during times of civil unrest the moment they spot what

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<v Speaker 21>they've judged to be quote hateful content. Or to this

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<v Speaker 21>very country where police have carried out raids against citizens

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<v Speaker 21>suspected of posting anti feminist comments online as part of

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<v Speaker 21>quote combating misogyny on the Internet a day of action.

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<v Speaker 8>But that's not the only European problem that Vance called out.

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<v Speaker 8>Vice President was also brutal about the policies of some countries,

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<v Speaker 8>particularly Germany, that have allowed themselves to de industrialize.

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<v Speaker 22>Germany is the one country, maybe in NATO, that did

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<v Speaker 22>not follow the stupid Washington consensus and allow their country

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<v Speaker 22>to be de industrialized during the seventies, eighties, and nineties.

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<v Speaker 22>And yet at the very moment that Putin is more

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<v Speaker 22>and more powerful, where the Russian army is invading European

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<v Speaker 22>countries in mass, this is the point at which Germany

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<v Speaker 22>starts to de industrialize. Look at the number of people

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<v Speaker 22>working and manufacturing in Germany now versus ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 22>Look at the critical raw materials produced in Germany now

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<v Speaker 22>versus ten years ago, the energy dependents now versus ten

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<v Speaker 22>or twenty years ago. We have got to stop de industrializing.

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<v Speaker 22>We want Europe to be successful, but Europe has got

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<v Speaker 22>to take a bigger role in its own security.

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<v Speaker 1>It can't do that without industry.

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<v Speaker 8>Now, I'd go further and say it is amazing that

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<v Speaker 8>Germany has inflicted on itself the same rustic rustication that

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<v Speaker 8>some in the US government wanted to force on them.

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<v Speaker 8>And thankfully they didn't succeed after World War II. But

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<v Speaker 8>it was on this subject of mass migration that Vance

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<v Speaker 8>really opened up.

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<v Speaker 21>The number of immigrants who entered the EU from non

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<v Speaker 21>EU countries doubled between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 21>two alone, and of course it's gotten much higher since.

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<v Speaker 21>And we know the situation.

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<v Speaker 22>It didn't materialize in a vacuum.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the result of a.

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<v Speaker 22>Series of conscious decisions made by politicians all over the

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<v Speaker 22>continent and others across the world over the span of

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<v Speaker 22>a decade.

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<v Speaker 8>Vance noted that just the day before his speech, there

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<v Speaker 8>was another Islamist car ramming attack in Munich, the very

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<v Speaker 8>city where he was speaking.

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<v Speaker 22>We saw the horrors wrought by these decisions yesterday in

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<v Speaker 22>this very city, and of course I can't bring it

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<v Speaker 22>up again without thinking about the terrible victims who had

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<v Speaker 22>a beautiful winter day in Munich ruined. Our thoughts and

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<v Speaker 22>prayers are with them and will remain with them. But

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<v Speaker 22>why did this happen in the first place. It's a

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<v Speaker 22>terrible story, but it's one we've heard way too many

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<v Speaker 22>times in Europe and unfortunately too many times in the

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<v Speaker 22>United States as well.

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<v Speaker 21>An asylum seeker, often a young man in his mid twenties,

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<v Speaker 21>already known to police, rams a car into a crowd

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<v Speaker 21>and shatters a community.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times must.

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<v Speaker 22>We suffer these appalling setbacks before we change course and

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<v Speaker 22>take our shared civilization in a new direction.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Vance said European leaders were ignoring what people were

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<v Speaker 8>urgently crying out for to be heard and to have

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<v Speaker 8>their votes read, their voices respected, rather than being blamed

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<v Speaker 8>for having the wrong ideas or for supposedly being influenced

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<v Speaker 8>by outside voices from beyond their own shores. Have a

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<v Speaker 8>listen to this, and note at the end there's the

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<v Speaker 8>name of an old friend of this program.

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<v Speaker 12>Here.

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<v Speaker 7>Have a listen.

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<v Speaker 21>I believe the dismissing people, dismissing their concerns, or worse yet,

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<v Speaker 21>shutting down media, shutting down elections or shutting people out

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<v Speaker 21>of the political process protects nothing. In fact, it is

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<v Speaker 21>the most surefire way to destroy democracy. And speaking up

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<v Speaker 21>and expressing opinions isn't election interference, even when people express

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<v Speaker 21>views outside your own country, and even when those people

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<v Speaker 21>are very influential.

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<v Speaker 22>And trust me, I say this with all humor. If

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<v Speaker 22>American democracy can survive ten years of Funeburg scolding, you

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<v Speaker 22>guys can survive a few months of Elon musk.

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<v Speaker 12>Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes remember Redda.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, it was fine for her to bully leaders around

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<v Speaker 8>the world and terrified children, including here in Australia, and

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<v Speaker 8>tell them to go on strike for the climate.

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<v Speaker 1>But Elon musk Oh no mean tweets incoming.

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<v Speaker 8>Look, the whole speech was an absolute toward a force,

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<v Speaker 8>a banger. But what Vance was saying to the Europeans

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<v Speaker 8>is this, You are making yourselves unrecognizable culturally, politically, socially,

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<v Speaker 8>and running against all the values of liberty and enlightenment

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<v Speaker 8>that once made you European and which gave the world

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<v Speaker 8>the gift of your civilization. And now you expect to

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<v Speaker 8>be defended by America even as you run yourself down.

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<v Speaker 8>The whole speech could be summed up by this one

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<v Speaker 8>line from Vance, which I think deserves to go down

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<v Speaker 8>in history as his ich bin einber moment.

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<v Speaker 21>If you're running in fear of your own voters, there

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<v Speaker 21>is nothing America can do for you, nor, for that matter,

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<v Speaker 21>is there anything that you can do for the American

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<v Speaker 21>people who elected me and elected President Trump.

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<v Speaker 8>How perfectly put, Europe is running in fear of its

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<v Speaker 8>own voters. And it was again, I say this again

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<v Speaker 8>an intervention. Yet as the saying goes, there are none

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<v Speaker 8>so blind as those who will not see. The Europeans

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<v Speaker 8>in the audience were horrified to cop this lecture from

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<v Speaker 8>this upstart colonial here's left wing German defense minister Boris Pistorius.

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<v Speaker 6>This democracy that was just called into question by the

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<v Speaker 6>Hughes vice president, and not just the German democracy, but

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<v Speaker 6>Europe as a whole. He spoke of the annulment of democracy,

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<v Speaker 6>and if I understood him correctly, he compares the condition

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<v Speaker 6>of Europe with the condition that prevails in some authoritarian regimes.

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<v Speaker 6>Ladies and gentlemen, this is not acceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>And everyone clapped.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, they may be cheering him now, but it is

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<v Speaker 8>Vance who was in the right here, and in a

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<v Speaker 8>few days time, Germany will go to the polls and

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<v Speaker 8>the right wing AfD is looking to be in the

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<v Speaker 8>box seat, while authorities try to do everything in their

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<v Speaker 8>power to smother that party's vote. As ordinary Germans become

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<v Speaker 8>increasingly fed up with crime, migration, terrorism, and the running

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<v Speaker 8>down of their once great nation by the left. The

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<v Speaker 8>big question now is, as Vance suggests, will the people's

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<v Speaker 8>voice in Germany be allowed to be heard or will

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<v Speaker 8>it be silenced? And if it is silenced, well remind

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<v Speaker 8>us again what gives them to the right to lecture

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<v Speaker 8>the rest of us about democracy? What is this Europe

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<v Speaker 8>exactly that we are defending?

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<v Speaker 2>Great stuff, Thanks James. Well, someone who will never be

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<v Speaker 2>silenced is Ralph Sholhammer over there in Europe. Ralph, Great,

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<v Speaker 2>just speak to you. You're there on the wall somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>coming upside. Was here in the room a moment ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there you are, Ralph. We found you.

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<v Speaker 19>We found you.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, maybe that's a Pistorius had cut the links so.

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<v Speaker 1>That we couldn't talk to you, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>Great back, So Ralph, tell us who's going to win

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<v Speaker 2>the German election? And what does this mean for the

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<v Speaker 2>Ukraine war?

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<v Speaker 23>Well, I think one of the broader things that you

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<v Speaker 23>did not mention in your wonderful segment was that, mister

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<v Speaker 23>Vanze also is that the biggest threat for Europe is not.

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<v Speaker 2>China or Russia.

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<v Speaker 23>It is breaking with its own values and forgetting its

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<v Speaker 23>own values. And this is what we see at the

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<v Speaker 23>moment of us speaking here. Austria is currently really we

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<v Speaker 23>had our own tervist attack just five hours ago. Yet

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<v Speaker 23>again the migrant, this time from Syria, has killed one

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<v Speaker 23>boy age fourteen and injured four other people. So this

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<v Speaker 23>is now happening almost on a daily basis. The Spectator

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<v Speaker 23>recently published a paper saying that one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 23>knife attacks take place every single day in France. So

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<v Speaker 23>the situation we find ourselves in is one where Europeans

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<v Speaker 23>are increasingly hostages in their own country, while the elites

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<v Speaker 23>and activitst judiciary and the NGOs are indulging in a

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<v Speaker 23>form of weird Stockholm syndrome where they constantly side with

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<v Speaker 23>the perpetrators but never with the victims. And this is

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<v Speaker 23>the reason why you see the right to achieve in Germany,

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<v Speaker 23>in France, you see it in the UK with the

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<v Speaker 23>Reform Party, and he saw it with Jdevans and Donald

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<v Speaker 23>Trump in the United States that people do no longer

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<v Speaker 23>understand whether it is a political elite that made it

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<v Speaker 23>the credo of their entire belief that whenever possible, you

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<v Speaker 23>have to side with those who are against your country,

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<v Speaker 23>your civilization, your tradition, know you inheritage and not the

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<v Speaker 23>other side.

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<v Speaker 5>Now we've seen also in Munich where JD. Evans gave

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<v Speaker 5>that great speech, just within hours another alleged terrorist attack

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<v Speaker 5>a car, I mean, where a mother and a two

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<v Speaker 5>year old child were killed, dozens more injured. How much

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<v Speaker 5>of an impact is that event having as far as

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<v Speaker 5>discussions leading up to the election.

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<v Speaker 23>Well, it will have an impact on the election. But

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<v Speaker 23>due to the electoral system in Germany, the problem is

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<v Speaker 23>the AfD is not going to get over fifty one percent,

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<v Speaker 23>so they will come in second. And the quote unquote

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<v Speaker 23>conservatives who are not real conservatives, that are pretty much

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<v Speaker 23>like Richie Suna's Conservatives were in the United Kingdom. But

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<v Speaker 23>of course most people don't indulge in politics all the

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<v Speaker 23>time as we do. So people say, if I make

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<v Speaker 23>my cross at the Conservative Party, they will govern conservative,

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<v Speaker 23>won't they. But that's also what people thought about angel

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<v Speaker 23>A Mercle and as we know now she basically was

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<v Speaker 23>the first Green Chancellor of Germany and energy policy, in

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<v Speaker 23>foreign policy, and in migration policy, and what we do

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<v Speaker 23>not see. Actually, I just want to make this point

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<v Speaker 23>very quick, because we have the sharp contrast. If you

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<v Speaker 23>look to Poland, if you look to Hungary, if you

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<v Speaker 23>look to the Czech Republic, there are no stabbings, there

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<v Speaker 23>are no gang rapes, but there are no cost driving

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<v Speaker 23>into pedestrians. Man, I wonder why that is.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, Ralph, here's the thing that I don't understand, and

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<v Speaker 8>break it down for you. For the last fifteen twenty years,

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<v Speaker 8>it has been the elite desire to have open borders

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<v Speaker 8>in Europe and import huge numbers of people from the

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<v Speaker 8>Islamic world or the Third world. Why is this particular

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<v Speaker 8>issue so dear to the elites. The one way they

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<v Speaker 8>could easily stop the AfD and stop far right parties

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<v Speaker 8>if they said, yes, we will have controls on migration.

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<v Speaker 8>And yet they refuse to what is so important to

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<v Speaker 8>the elites about this migration?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know the answer.

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<v Speaker 23>I think you're just too shy to say it because

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<v Speaker 23>for them, it is atonement for the supposed sins of

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<v Speaker 23>the past that the West has committed.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the very reason.

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<v Speaker 23>But every time when you turn against it, they say

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<v Speaker 23>you must be a Nazi because for them, opening up

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<v Speaker 23>the borders is what they believe is the way to

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<v Speaker 23>make good for the horrific things the West, and particularly

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<v Speaker 23>in this case Germany, which is why it's even more

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<v Speaker 23>pronounced in Germany than in other places, that this is

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<v Speaker 23>the way how you can make up for things of

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<v Speaker 23>the past. That everybody who is against that form of

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<v Speaker 23>atonement then must be by definition a Nazi.

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<v Speaker 1>It's completely absurd.

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<v Speaker 23>It's a form of I would say delusion as a

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<v Speaker 23>psychological disease if you want. But this is how they think.

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<v Speaker 23>This is why you constantly immediately have the reference to

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<v Speaker 23>the Nazi time with everything we saw it now with JD.

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<v Speaker 23>Vans's speech Bill Crystal, who I think is a grifter,

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<v Speaker 23>but that's a separate area that the speech would have

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<v Speaker 23>sounded better in the original German, right, So it's immediately

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<v Speaker 23>you know, immediately you have to swiveling too. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 23>these must be Nazis because they don't want open borders.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean to say that about a man like JD.

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<v Speaker 5>Vance who's married to a Indian and American woman who's

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<v Speaker 5>got biracial children. To try to paint him with some

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<v Speaker 5>sort of a Nazi white supremacist is just so disgusting.

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<v Speaker 5>But we are seeing this center right wave throughout Europe,

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<v Speaker 5>from Italy to Finland.

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<v Speaker 3>The right wing parties are.

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<v Speaker 5>Doing much better they have been, But is there an

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<v Speaker 5>appetite there to actually tackle the left wing bureaucracy that

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<v Speaker 5>is pushing all these agendas we're seeing with the Trump administration,

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<v Speaker 5>they are just going after the bureaucracy and making sure

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<v Speaker 5>that they're not going to frustrate their efforts to implement

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<v Speaker 5>their policies. Is that happening in Europe as well, where

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<v Speaker 5>those right center right parties are availing.

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<v Speaker 23>Well, don't forgets the long march through institutions of the

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<v Speaker 23>left started in the late sixties, early seventies, and they

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<v Speaker 23>didn't gain full control up until the nineties. So my fear,

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<v Speaker 23>of course is we don't have that much time. So

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<v Speaker 23>the change of the debureaucracy and even more importantly the judiciary.

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<v Speaker 23>I mean, we have this problem. We have it in Australia,

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<v Speaker 23>we have it in continental Europe, the UK, but of

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<v Speaker 23>course also in the United States there is an activist

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<v Speaker 23>class within the judiciary who believes that they have to

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<v Speaker 23>follow not the letter of the law, but some kind

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<v Speaker 23>of ideological prescription. I give you a very concrete example,

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<v Speaker 23>and I think many people in Australia don't know. The

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<v Speaker 23>European Court of Justice just recently decided that every single

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<v Speaker 23>woman in Afghanistan has automatically the rights to claim asylum

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<v Speaker 23>in Europe, in every country. So it's nineteen million people

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<v Speaker 23>that have a blanket right to asylum. Austria has nine

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<v Speaker 23>million inhabitants. Now nineteen million women will not make it

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<v Speaker 23>from Afghanistan to Austria. But that's a technical problem, a

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<v Speaker 23>logistical one, but from a legal perspective, Austria would have

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<v Speaker 23>to give those people asylum. But of course then Austria

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<v Speaker 23>as a nation would cease to exist. Nine million Austrians,

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<v Speaker 23>nineteen million in Afghans. You would be a minority own country.

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<v Speaker 23>But it's a legal ruling. And this is what I

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<v Speaker 23>mean when I say that this march through institutions, or

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<v Speaker 23>the return of sanate into the institutions, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 23>the the big challenge for the next couple of years.

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<v Speaker 23>We can be very grateful. I believe Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 23>a flawed man, and we all are flawed humans. But

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<v Speaker 23>I think you understood one thing though, that if you

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<v Speaker 23>want to change something, it starts with a bureaucracy. There's

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<v Speaker 23>the famous saying by the German politician Bismarck, who want

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<v Speaker 23>said the best laws are useless with a bad bureaucracy.

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<v Speaker 23>But the same goes with that, the worst bureaucracy doesn't

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<v Speaker 23>help if you have or cannot execute a good laws.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is I think what he has realized. Great

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<v Speaker 2>to hear Bismarck quest before and outside is that's the

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<v Speaker 2>first Ralph, Ralph Sholhammer, Great to chat to you as

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<v Speaker 2>always live from Vienna there and thanks Ralph for staying

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<v Speaker 2>up so late to chapter's what's happening in Europe? Will

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<v Speaker 2>teating on top of that coming up after the break.

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<v Speaker 2>Candra clown Show in a tick, roll up, roll up,

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<v Speaker 2>step right this way. It's the wackiest show in town.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Canbra clown Show, which this week made the

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<v Speaker 2>mistake of heading out of the Burly Riffin Big Top

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<v Speaker 2>and visiting Woollongong, home of the floating windmills. Looks like

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<v Speaker 2>not everyone enjoyed the show. Still, if Albo wasn't feeling

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<v Speaker 2>the love at the water's edge. He made a better

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<v Speaker 2>go of it with some Valentine's Day poetry.

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<v Speaker 9>Rosas are red, it's volat of blue, It's valentine to

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<v Speaker 9>Day and we love blue collar working.

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<v Speaker 1>Who said I love you first? Same time? Same time?

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<v Speaker 1>It was definitely the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>The half of and I Happy Valentine's Day.

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<v Speaker 3>Australia, Happy Valentine's State.

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<v Speaker 20>One year since we got engaged, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Dear, But when it comes to romancing, the view as

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<v Speaker 2>Albo was just warming up. Well, congratulations, Prime minister. But

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of prime ministerial love affairs, in these days of

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk and his Doge Department uncovering governmental bureaucratic largesse

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<v Speaker 2>on an unimaginable scale to politically aligned non government organizations,

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<v Speaker 2>one can't help but fondly remember those other prime ministerial

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<v Speaker 2>love affairs, such as the love affair between Julia Gillard

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<v Speaker 2>and the Clintons, or more importantly, the Clinton Foundation. You see,

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<v Speaker 2>between twenty ten and twenty thirteen, Prime Minister Julia Gillard

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<v Speaker 2>donated three hundred million dollars of your and my and

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<v Speaker 2>every other Australian taxpayers dollars three hundred million of them,

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<v Speaker 2>no small change to the Clinton afil Global Partnership for Education.

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<v Speaker 2>AH smiles all around, feel the love. But this was

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<v Speaker 2>no short fling. In February twenty fourteen, as Gillard raised

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<v Speaker 2>a few eyebrows when, having left politics, she was appointed

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<v Speaker 2>chair of the Clinton Foundation affiliated Global Partnership for Education,

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<v Speaker 2>a leading organization dedicated to expanding access and quality education worldwide.

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<v Speaker 2>What a noble cause. Still, the Clinton's love affair with

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<v Speaker 2>Australian politicians goes way way back further than that. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 2>who's this dashing young man sitting beside behind Bill Clinton.

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<v Speaker 2>It's John Howard's Foreign Minister, Alexander Downer, and Bill is

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<v Speaker 2>standing at a podium that says Australian Government oss AID,

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<v Speaker 2>a USAID A USAID. That rings a bell, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the Australian counterpart of the recently much maligned us AID. Hmm. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>in February two thousand and six, Foreign Minister Downer and

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Clinton signed a twenty five million dollar memorandum of understanding,

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<v Speaker 2>which triggered the first round of Australian donations to the

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<v Speaker 2>Clinton Foundation. By December two thousand and eight, the Clinton

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<v Speaker 2>Foundation reported that Australia was the largest Western government donor. Hmmm,

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<v Speaker 2>that tugs at the heart strings, doesn't it our money?

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, But wait, there's more. In two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and nine ten Kevin rad handed over another ten million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to the Clinton Foundation for Climate research, which was

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<v Speaker 2>just a tinsy part of the three hundred million dollars. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>mister Rudd handed out your money for a global carbon

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<v Speaker 2>capture and Storage institute.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm, but but what's this?

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<v Speaker 2>Even more prime ministerial roma answering with the Clintons. In

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen, Tony Abbotts short lived government topped up the

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<v Speaker 2>Clinton coffers with another one hundred and forty million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>of Ossie taxpayers money, including twenty seven million to aid

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<v Speaker 2>initiatives to run through something called the Clinton Health Access Initiative.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, so strong was the affection that Australian governments

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<v Speaker 2>felt for the Clintons that the love affair continued, with

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<v Speaker 2>Julie Bishop tossing in a few more bob By the

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<v Speaker 2>time the Australian government had finished its love affair with

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<v Speaker 2>the Clintons, our political leaders had given their foundations as

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<v Speaker 2>staggering four hundred and sixty million dollars. That's nearly half

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<v Speaker 2>a billion of your hard earned money. My thanks to

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<v Speaker 2>r M for the research on that astonishing trans Pacific

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<v Speaker 2>Clinton Australia love affair. Meanwhile, we learned yesterday from Guys

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<v Speaker 2>very on Chris Allman, writing in the Australian newspaper that

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<v Speaker 2>quotes search the Globe, and it turns out that Australia

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<v Speaker 2>has the highest paid senior bureaucrats in the world, or

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<v Speaker 2>as former Treasury Assistant Secretary David Peerl has noted incredibly,

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<v Speaker 2>over one hundred public servants earn more than the cabinet

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<v Speaker 2>ministers they serve. This is Canberra and this is an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute disgrace. Allmond says. We need to have the wages

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<v Speaker 2>of departmental heads and freeze them until they start coming

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<v Speaker 2>up with ideas that lift the suffocating regulatory burden of government.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is, of course the point. Investment and small

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<v Speaker 2>and big businesses are being strangled by red, green, and

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<v Speaker 2>black bureaucratic tape designed by fat cat bureaucrats and politicians

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<v Speaker 2>who are completely out of touch with.

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<v Speaker 7>The real world.

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<v Speaker 2>Much like the strange love affair between Australian prime ministers

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<v Speaker 2>and the Clinton's and the love affair between Camber and

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<v Speaker 2>big bureaucracy. It appears the Fab four got it wrong.

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<v Speaker 12>Money can buy you love, money.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful Julia Gilard Frez speaking of Julia hyperbol but Rache,

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<v Speaker 2>you have some more hyperbol love for us to tell.

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<v Speaker 5>I think this is just absolutely blowing up on social media.

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<v Speaker 5>It appears that Elon Musker's father his thirteenth child with

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<v Speaker 5>a lady called Ashley Saint Clair. She is a conservative blogger,

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<v Speaker 5>but things have gone sour between the pair. She's the

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<v Speaker 5>one who made this public and he hasn't confirmed it,

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<v Speaker 5>nor have his people confirmed it, so we're assuming this

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<v Speaker 5>is true. It's been reported widely now, but it is

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<v Speaker 5>going to cause all sorts of interest and in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Days, class of this on the Rita Pannehe Show Monday

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<v Speaker 2>Then you've got Rida Panel here at nine o'clock. What

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<v Speaker 2>could be better Adelan Sunday mornings here on Outsiders, where

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<v Speaker 2>we always.

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<v Speaker 1>Love being with you.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see you during the week. We'll see you next

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday morning at nine am. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>watching