WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 17 December 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:00.400 Late. 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:09.360 Welcome to the Late Debates. Good evening, everybody, and welcome 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:12.440 to the not so late Debate. I'm Liz Storer and 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:17.560 joining me tonight is Joe Hildebrand and Gabriella Power Love. 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:22.000 Oh are you coming up tonight? We've got a packed show. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:24.320 You're thinking it'd be quiet around this time of year, 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:29.479 but not so. D Justin Trudeau, Canada's PM is due 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:35.240 to resign any minute after two ministers quit today. In Germany, 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:40.400 Chancellor Olaf has lost his parliament's confidence and they're going to. 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:44.120 A snap election nine months before they were supposed to. 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:48.280 And AI experts are warning us somebody's got to pull 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.479 the plug before this thing gets too much more smarter 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:55.440 than your average human being. But first, tonight, would it 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:59.040 be Christmas time if we didn't have some trumped up 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:03.200 council always in the state of Victoria, it seems, telling 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:07.240 us we can't use the word Christmas this year. 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:11.520 It is none other than Darrabin Counsel who have decided 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:12.880 to leave all mention of. 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:16.720 Christmas out of Christmas celebrations. 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:18.400 They've done this very deliberately. 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:24.960 There's their chosen campaign, Darrabin celebrates. You'll notice in each 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:29.080 and every one of those little pictures absolutely nothing that 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:33.680 relates to christ Absolutely nothing that relates to Christmas. 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:34.199 In the least. 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.039 This, of course, is done, if you can believe the 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:38.840 council spokeswoman. 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.880 In order to avoid offending anyone. 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:43.560 I don't know about you, but I've yet to meet 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:48.640 anyone living here in Australia who actually is offended by Christmas. 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.560 But here's the Darrabin Mayor's quote. 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:55.920 She says that the Council embraces and honors the many 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.200 ways residents come together at this time of year. We're 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.440 so fortunate to be part of a community that reflects 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:06.200 so many different traditions and backgrounds. We celebrate all the 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:09.480 richness and joy they bring. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:11.280 It's so strange, isn't it. 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:16.040 Whenever it's about Dewali, whenever it's about ad, whenever it's 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:21.200 about a different culture's special day, Gabby, they're never this ambiguous. 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:25.399 But when it comes to a Christian holidays celebrated by 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:30.600 plenty of secular people, they're very concerned about other cultures 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:33.560 here in Australia and offending them to the point that 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.560 we can't even say Merry Christmas. 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:38.280 Of course, this is coming from Victorian Council. 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:39.919 You know, it's just ridiculous. 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.880 There is nothing offensive about the words Merry Christmas, and 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:46.120 Darvin Council has seemed to have forgotten that Christmas is 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:49.600 a religious holiday. Christianity is a main religion right here 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:50.320 in Australia. 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.560 Christ Much Yeah, exactly. 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.600 We're celebrating, memorating the birth of Jesus Christ. It's such 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.280 a special occasion for so many people. People will be 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.240 going to church day, families are celebrating. But they're not 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.520 only getting rid of Merry Christmas because that's apparently offensive. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:09.360 They're going another step further and they're reducing the size. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:10.120 Of the Christmas tree. 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.960 So the Christmas tree was meant to be six meters 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.280 in height, they're now reducing it to three meters to 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.639 save on plastic, as if they're somehow saving the planet 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:24.080 they do planets. Just ridiculous. You know, I sound like 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:27.160 Kamala Haaras saying this, But it's a joyful occasion and 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.680 seeing Mary Christmas it actually brings a lot of joy. 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:31.240 That's right. They are not bringing the joy. 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.680 Unlike Kamela Harris, Darrabin Counsel is not bringing the. 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.160 Joy there, right joy ye Darrabin. 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.240 This just makes me go absolutely crazy. I don't know 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.840 why counsels keep doing it. I don't know if you 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:46.120 know this, but every single news corp tabloid has an entire, 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:48.880 round the clock all year, three hundred and sixty five 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.760 days crack squad of reporters just waiting for someone to 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.920 cancel Christmas. I mean, always get one, like every single time. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.440 Sick of it, you know, Jactus, We've had enough of it. 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.200 We see it every year. We've seen it for too long. 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:02.800 And you know, as I've seen in the election over 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.400 in the US, people are rejecting all this kind of 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:06.400 work bs. 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:07.760 You know, it's going to have time. 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.400 Then it's a time to celebrate Christmas and say Merry Christmas. 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:15.040 Absolutely, and it's a great thing that news court papers 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.279 do make a big deal out of this a because 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:18.840 it is genuinely a big deal. 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.160 We know that this has a lot more to do with. 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:27.640 Cracking down on Western civilization, eradicating it from Western countries 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:32.919 that whether they call themselves now anymore, we're always historically 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:34.360 Christian countries. 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.440 And we saw this last year. Joe with the Stonington. 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:43.880 With their fake Mary campaign absolutely slammed for it and 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.360 then put a statement out earlier this year saying we 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:46.960 take it back. 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:51.160 Sorry Christmas everybody is what I don't care now. So 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.880 Melbourne obviously is the capital of the People's Republic of Victoria, 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:56.279 so it's the sort of thing. Yet this is the 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.160 walkers city and the worker his time around it is. 0:04:59.240 --> 0:04:59.400 Yeah. 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.960 Previously so previously. 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:03.960 Yarra Council which is always dominated by the Greens, did 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:07.240 it Startington Council which is sort of rich Greens like 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:11.640 teals kind of thing, and and Darravin which takes in Northcote, 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.880 which almost elected a socialist candidate to the Upper House. 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:19.200 I believe high selection. But it is just it is 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:20.159 very very annoying. 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.479 As for the Christmas tree, and this is another thing 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.320 as well. You want to save plastic, get a real 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:28.920 Christmas tree, get a real Christmas tree, pie, a real 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.960 Christmas or whatever it is, wood, pine needles, that stuff. 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:32.599 We've got one. 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.839 Chop it down, that's right, exactly, You've got the proper one. 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:36.520 Yeah, you. 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.240 Stick it up, that's right and make it. You know, 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:41.960 it can be as big as a big as a 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:43.560 get rid. 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.800 Of there's work bs in sanity. Can you imagine going 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.120 to a Middle Eastern culture being in a Middle Eastern 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.920 country and being like the celebrating age. 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:56.159 I'm so offended. I mean, who in their right minds 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:56.760 would do that. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.960 It's only the Western countries that are expected to bend 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:02.799 over every year, and we're like, oh, we're so sorry 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.080 about our holidays, but Chinese. 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:07.560 New Year is going to be a big deal. Just 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:08.599 give it a few feeks. 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:13.279 It's utterly If somebody anywhere in the Middle East said, 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.560 you know, it said, say, you know, happy Ramadan, and 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.719 I've been there during Ramadad. It's awesome, he said, to 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.960 say happy Ramadan, it just says, you know, happy family, 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.760 get together, happy special moment. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.400 It doesn't even make sense. Derebin Counsel going with. 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.760 The celebrates, what are they celebrating? 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:36.640 Makes nowhere there reason Emmanuel Christ with us. 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:40.320 I say it's fine, but you don't get the public holidays. Yeah, 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:42.560 he's not going to say Christmas, Darbin Counsel. 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:43.200 And we all know that. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.560 Hope they're aoun The workers, we should all give them 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:45.800 a call. 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:47.560 I love a bit of flexi time. They love to 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.360 work on the public. They're not sticklers about over time. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.599 I love casual work, night shifts. They're all over penalty rights. 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:55.080 They don't care. They do it for the love. 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.120 So I'll tell you what if it's not going to 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.920 be Christmas, no Christmas Day, it's not called holiday day, 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.480 and it's not called Seasons Greetings. 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.880 Day, indeed no Boxing day. 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:07.480 Which no one knows where that comes from, by the way, 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:08.320 although they think it's. 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:09.960 I'm sure Kel Richards could tell you. 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.560 I'm sure Kel Richards could tell it, but no one 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.480 still knows. No one still knows where it comes from. 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.600 But I think it's from when people the sort of 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.560 lord of the manner would box up everything that they 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.880 got for Christmas and everything left over from the face 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:23.880 and then give it to the poor. 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.160 Isn't that a nice? Nice? 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:30.280 And now holiday, you're kind of giving to the poor, 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:34.760 just at a cheaper ray. Changing topic, now, you must 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.120 be living under a rock if you haven't heard of 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:42.280 this extraordinary case of Bronco star Ezra Mom. This guy 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:46.800 was found last October to have driven his ute into 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:50.280 an uber injuring a woman and a four year old girl. 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.560 He was found to have a cocktail of drugs in 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:53.960 his system and to. 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:58.360 Be driving while disqualified. So what's his sentence? 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:03.040 It was handed down yesterday eight hundred and fifty bucks. 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.040 Ladies and gentlemen. That is absolute pocket change for. 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:09.080 Something that could have cost Goodness knows how many people 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.960 their lives. Eight hundred and fifty bucks and his license 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:14.480 suspended for six months. 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.679 Mabe, this guy must be laughing, Joe. 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:19.360 I just do not understand this. 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.520 And I I got to call this morning from the 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.280 tail and the editor was just incensed about this. And 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:28.240 I've got to say I'd read, I'd read about it 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.440 the night before, and I've gone to bed and then 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.920 got it and it just is staggering, like the idea 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.080 that you could And you saw the footage there of 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.200 these two cars, like they wipe out each other's end drops, right, 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.280 so it was gone. Someone could very easily have been killed. 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:46.360 He was driving not just with cocaine and other drugs 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:50.840 that magistrate didn't specify in his system, but he was 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.760 already disqualified because he'd racked up so many demerit points, 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.719 so he's already banned from driving. He then goes and 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.520 drives when it's illegal for him to do so, not 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.680 only that, but also seemingly under the influence or with 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.920 drugs in his system. Then he goes and nearly wipes 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:09.839 out or does wipe out this uber. 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.840 Injures a four year old girl and her mum inside. 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:13.560 It lucky to be alive. 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:14.800 And the fine. 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:19.080 Doesn't even crack a grand It doesn't even crack four figures. 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:21.520 Can you imagine, can you? 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:22.840 And he's going to be he. 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.040 Can be on the road by July next year, but 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:31.320 suspension for that incident. I cannot imagine any normal person 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:35.800 walking out of a courtroom. No corrective order, no community service, 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:39.520 no actual substantive fine that would be any kind of disincentive. No, 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.240 not three years off the road. You are clearly someone 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.960 who cannot be trusted like six. 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:46.360 I mean, honestly, it. 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.880 Just makes no sense for the fact that a mother 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:51.960 and a child was caught up in this, that the 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.160 consequences could have been devastating and so many of us, 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.960 you know, no people that have been seriously injured in 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.760 a car accident, and there's no he used to get 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.280 behind the wheel with drinking drugs in your system, no 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.400 matter who you are, an NRL player, and what kind 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.440 of message does it send, you know, if he's meant 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.760 to be someone that kids look up to, It's just 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.080 I don't know what the right punishment is. But a 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.840 six month suspended an eight. 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.800 No one with a single firing neuron would say, oh, yes, 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:23.400 the punishment fits the crime. Here's the man himself giving 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.080 what I would say is the most disingenuous apology. 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.679 I'm going to be a change man. Going on from now. 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:35.160 Today is a very important step my actions and starting 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:38.040 to make things right. And to the people involved in 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.280 the accident, I'm truly sorry. And to the NRL, the 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:45.360 Brisbane Broncos, the fans and my family, I'm sorry. 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.080 How about the woman and the child that almost lost 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.040 their life? Are you sorry to them as well? I 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.720 you know, by the way, you really know someone means 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:56.960 an apology when they have to read it word forgether. 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:01.120 But he's reading from the scripta sorry. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.120 I mean, it's just so like, oh, this is the 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.000 thing that you do now, so this is the thing 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:07.720 that I'm doing. 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:08.520 Yeah, that's right. 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:12.520 And again it just just smacks of something that seemed 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.520 to them to be a bit of a pr scandal 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.120 rather than anything substanding. But again, I just cannot, for 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.040 the life of me imagine I have this thing I 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.960 called the Plumber test where you say, all right, imagine 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.720 if it was just you know, it wasn't an NRL 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.880 star who's just been signed to the Broncos for I 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.760 think four million bucks over five years. Imagine if it 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.680 was just Joe Blogs. Imagine if it was just a 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:35.440 plumber fitter. And turnout that's how. 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:36.960 The library supposed to be treated. 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:38.600 That's exactly right. 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:40.920 And you know, and instead of coach say it was 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:42.439 a different drug or whatever, So I didn't have that 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.000 kind of you know, it wasn't the party drug of 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:47.160 the celebrities in the A list. Like, I find it 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:50.160 impossible to believe that someone would just walk out of 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.760 a courtroom after an incident like that and not even 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:56.240 have to part, you know, change from a thousand bucks fine. 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.200 I mean this, you wouldn't even notice that behind the 0:11:58.240 --> 0:11:59.079 couch the. 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.800 NRL like suspended him from playing. 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:03.080 I think that. 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.120 I think someone in the newsroom is joking that you 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:10.000 get more for a high tackle. But no, and the NL, 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.240 I think, and the Broncos are saying they stand behind him. 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:16.000 But again it's that's that's almost immaterial. I mean, it 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:20.480 shouldn't be treated as a football problem crime committed. It 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.440 was committed in the community, and he should be treated 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.920 not like a football player, but like anybody else, And 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.400 I just cannot, for the life of me see how 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.960 anyone else could cause that level of damage and have 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:33.840 their license suspended for six months. 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.680 I mean, in that case, the build, the higher pament 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.640 should be as if those two people had lost their lives, because, 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.439 let's face it, it's only by a stroke of luck 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:45.360 that that did not happen. 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.599 You saw the pitches. He's in the ute. 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:52.400 Which of course fared much better than the what looked like, 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.320 I don't know, your average Toyota Corolla type make of 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.679 car that was crushed to smither. 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.000 Reens moving to the US now. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:04.600 All we familiar with this case, very curious case of the. 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.480 Death of CEO Healthcare CEO. 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:11.840 His name is Brian Thompson. He was the CEO of 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:16.800 United Healthcare. Early in December, he was shot dead by 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:21.480 what police initially said seemed like a trained assassin, just 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.360 because of what they saw on CCTV footage. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:28.720 They said, this guy's probably trained and knows what he's doing. 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:32.439 Now they have taken into custody a twenty six year 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:39.560 old suspect, Luigi Mangioni. And what nobody can understand is 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:44.800 how the Left have made this guy an overnight hero. 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:50.120 There's serious vibes of the rich coming from the left 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:55.320 with regards to this. People are absolutely heroising this young man, 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:59.760 even though let's be clear, he is not yet convicted, 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.040 nowhere near it. We're at the very outset of getting 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:06.520 to the bottom of what actually happened here. 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:12.200 But these people have made up candlelight vigils worshiping this guy. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:18.040 He's even got deranged fans online saying that he's not 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.680 only is he a hero, but making suggestions as to 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:25.400 the next CEO who they'd like to see bumped off. 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.040 If you say that Luigi is anything except a hero 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.480 and an icon from freedom and fighting against Turney. 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.160 Then you are factually incorrect. 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.480 He will go down in history as as you know it. 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.760 Also, can I recommend eve one Musk next to. 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:43.600 The citial list. 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:49.880 Even Peter Teel, who heads up Pallenteer, was really lost 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.600 for words when asked a very simple question about this 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.560 phenomenon by Piers Morgan. 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:01.240 To those who think this shooter is a hero because 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.920 he did it, because he said, this healthcare executive was 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:08.520 presiding over a healthcare system which kills thousands of Americans 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.240 by denying them cover, what would you say to. 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:19.840 Them, and again, I think, you know, I think the 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:23.920 the motives feel I don't want to go into all 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:27.600 the particulars here, but I don't think I don't think 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:28.240 there's anything. 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:28.840 You ro with about them. 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:31.920 It was actually more painful than that, but we had 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:33.120 to make it shorter for you. 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.120 He was literally lost for words. 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:39.160 How is this a hard question to answer, Gabby, because 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:41.800 whether he did it or not is immaterial to the 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:45.760 fact that people are now heroising him for having done so. 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:47.920 You know, I see a lot of weird stuff from 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:49.960 the left and the far left on Twitter all the time. 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:51.880 You know, there are people protesting. 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.320 After Donald Trump won, saying, you know, you can't sleep 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.720 with your partners anymore if they voted for Donald Trump. 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:01.920 There's a whole movement around that. Early there's some crazy 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.320 stuff that the left like doing. They like to boycott 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.960 that Thanksgiving if you know your relatives vote for Donald 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:07.520 Trump anyway. 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.040 But this is just next level. 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.960 It is so sick that they are celebrating someone that's 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.800 been accused of murder and no one seems to care 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.400 that this guy was a father, that this guy was 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:20.320 a husband, this person has a family. People are going 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:23.800 to the lengths of getting tattoos of this alleged murderer, 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.600 which you know that the tattoo is absolutely hideous, but 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.480 they're getting that on their bodies because they're making out 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:30.600 like he's some sort of joke. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:40.520 Guys, I'm not guilty, because of course he's insisting. In fact, 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:44.120 he said this arrest is an insult to the intelligence 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.400 of the American public. He is claiming that he's some 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:49.440 sort of a patsy. And I think there is a 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.520 lot more to this, Joe, because we do know that 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:57.080 this CEO, Brian Thompson, had sold off millions of dollars 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:00.320 of shares in his own company because he knew there 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:04.040 was an anti trust case coming from the DOJ, the 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:08.240 Department of Justice, and so his shareholders are up in arms. 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:11.320 That case is still continuing despite the fact that he's 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.679 now deceased. There's a lot more to this story, but 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:19.119 I can't make head nor tail of this worshipful reverence 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:20.040 for this man. 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.480 To be honest, It's actually I've found it in a 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:23.480 way kind. 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.200 Of refreshing because it's exposing the extreme left, the kind 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.719 of Antifa left, to who they really are, which is malevolent, 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.800 potentially deadly people. Although it's like, you see all the 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:36.879 people who are praising him, You probably wouldn't have to 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:40.479 worry about fighting them in an arm wrestle, but it 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:44.320 does just go and show how extreme these ideologues are. 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:47.320 And of course, when you are a true ideologue, nothing 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:51.000 matters more than the cause. Human lives can be sacrificed 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:54.040 for the cause. And we know that every time communism 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.919 has been implemented around the world, tens of millions of 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.240 people have died, and this is seen has been perfectly 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.520 worth while while in order to you know, to reach 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:06.240 the utopia of the workers paradise, which strangely they never 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:07.400 actually seem to reach. 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:08.720 But you know they've got good intentions. 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:10.760 So what's a few million people starving to death by 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.040 eating grass, or a few hundred thousand being purged by 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:14.960 Joseph Stalin, or people. 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.920 Being maybe if they knew their history they'd feel. 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.119 A bit different, but that's that's right. But the history 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:21.640 is the history is right here. 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.000 The history is being played out like they haven't changed. 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:28.240 The ideology hasn't changed. The belief that it can only 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:32.359 be achieved through violent, deadly, bloody revolution has not changed. 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:35.280 And now these people are actually saying it quite openly, 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:39.080 and they're saying it, you know, and again they're saying 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:42.360 it in ways that a prejudice the case, so they're 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:47.080 actually they're actually basically assuming the guy is guilty when 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.639 he is equally fastically claiming that he's not. And it's 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:55.120 all some elaborate conspiracy and he's what Lee Harvey Oswald 0:18:53.800 --> 0:19:01.360 also communism and acted alone. But it is like they're 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:03.639 actually sort of just belling the car and that is 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:07.520 the amazing saying yes, we actually support killing people. 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:08.400 In the name of our cause. 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:10.760 And they say, oh, but you know, but his company 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.880 kills many people or results of plenty of people dying. 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:16.680 Well, where do you draw the line? 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:16.880 Then? 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.760 Do you kill every single federal government worker in the 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:24.879 US because the US government is responsible for people dying 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:27.520 because it funds the military. So you're going to go 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.960 and kill your federally funded librarian, your DC garbage man. 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:33.600 I mean, where do you actually draw the line? You 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.320 just kill people at the top of companies. You'd kill 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:38.760 the CEOs of banks because you know, do you kill 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.680 the CEOs of any company that has fossil fuel? 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.159 The capitalist it would be all of it. 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.720 It's everybody, that's right, that's right. And then I think, 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.399 but then I think, it's not just capitalists you have 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.080 to go after. It's not just people at the top 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:52.160 of the tree, because of. 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.000 Course they are being fueled. 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.000 They are being fueled by consumerism, and so it is 0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:00.760 the people who are consuming all these products. Consumers must 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:02.840 have that's right, So all the consumers must And one 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:03.600 of the worst. 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:04.000 That's everyone. 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:08.040 One of the worst capital offenders is of course McDonald's, 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:12.200