1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another week of backstage at Matthew. I 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: think an excellent round of rugby league. Excellent if that's 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: as good as rugby league that I've seen. You know 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: what I love about this round one the feuds in 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: every game. 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 2: They by design. I'm not sure or whether they've just 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: set it up this way, but I mean games like 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: Jabal Foggerty against the Raiders etc. 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: Jonah Pezzant back against the Storm. 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: That's right against it. Well, Melbourne against Paramatta who've been 11 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: going at each other all pre season, Broncos. 12 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: V Penrith, which I thought bloody game of the round. 13 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: Yes, that enormous round. So yeah, it was really good. 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: And if they have designed it that way deliberately, which 15 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: I think they have well, played great way to launch 16 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: the year. 17 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: Certainly we're going to go through each game talking about well, 18 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: where teams can get better, dissecting a little bit standout players, 19 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: and then a little bit of stuff of where we 20 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: think anticipate each team ending up later in the year. 21 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: But you've got a little guests in your laugh, haven't 22 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: you letting you know? 23 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: As you know, we lost Charlie last year, which was 24 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: devastating to the family. It really was, and it's taken 25 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: us a little bit of time. We've got ourselves a 26 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: new little mate, a little cavalier. This is Luigi. Where's 27 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: your little fella? And he's just eight weeks old. We've 28 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 2: had him for just a couple of days. 29 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: Get that mic down a little bit, covering your beautiful face. 30 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: I just yeah, yeah, and I just yet, it's so 31 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: good to having me And people who have got pets 32 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: realize what I'm about to say is that when you 33 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: bring a pet into a house, everything like the whole 34 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: murder of the of the of. 35 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: The house just changes. 36 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: All the emphasis goes on to the pet, lowers, the 37 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: blood pressure lowers, the friction in the house. 38 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: Don't get it's great. I was giving you an opportunity 39 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: there to make it like a lighthearted than when you 40 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: get emotional talking about your dead past pets and your 41 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: new pet. 42 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: By new pet, Luigi, Yeah, he's Luigia, the magnetic. 43 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: He reckons the favorite in there in with Luigi. Yeah, 44 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: I think it's Jack. I was just about to say, 45 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm starting to think. 46 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: It's it's Jack for sure. 47 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 4: Me. 48 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: Jack got in early and really sort of cut your grass. 49 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: He did, he did. 50 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: There is a little bit of competition going on, joscelying 51 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: for positions, but Jack at the moment top of the leaderboard. 52 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's my favorite, and I think he's more of 53 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 4: a Louis. I don't know that Luigi's You don't like it, 54 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 4: do you. Luigi's a great name, but for a dog, 55 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 4: I don't know. I like Louis. Louis good. 56 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: Well. For our older listeners and viewers will understand. 57 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: That the old days of the Paul Hogan Show, there 58 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: was a magician he used to pretend to be Paul 59 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: Hogan called Luigi the Magnificent. Oh really, And I've named 60 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: him after that because he is a magnificent creature. 61 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: But you, Trish named him. 62 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 63 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 2: Look, I was just trying to try to tight together there, 64 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: to act like I had an input into what the horse, 65 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: what the dog was going to be named. Of course 66 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: I had no impact to with you. 67 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: No, no, no, because you are on much like Luigi tight leash. 68 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: I am very tight, very title Lynch. Yes, that's right. 69 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: First game over there in Las Vegas, which we were 70 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: there for Knights v. Cowboys Nights, winning twenty eight to eighteen. 71 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: A lot of speculation over the Newcastle Knights. How Dylan 72 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: Brown is going to go all this sort of stuff. 73 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: But I love the way they played. I thought they 74 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: were outstanding. 75 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: First thing, I let to say this, A couple of 76 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: things were really important that I liked about this game 77 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: that Justin Holdbrook put in place. Firstly, you don't have 78 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: to be too fancy with your attacking sequences. You have 79 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: to push the ball to a certain part of the field, 80 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: which sets up Kaylan sweet spot, which is him swinging 81 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: to his left against that third defender from the edge 82 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: of the field, that third last defender from the edge 83 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: of the field. The other thing I really liked about 84 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: at Cooper is the fact that the attacking shapes they 85 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: played both Kaylan Fletcher Sharp and most importantly Dylan Brown, 86 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: they played what I call split shapes. Two players come forward, 87 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: the first ballplayer our ball runner, drops underneath the ballplayer, 88 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: and the next one looks for the gap. Now, by 89 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: playing that shape, what that allows the ballplayer to do. 90 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: It forces him to run the ball and gives him 91 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: a run pass option. That's exactly how Dylan Brown should play. 92 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: That's how ka the shapes that suit Kaylon and the 93 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: shapes at Fletcher Sharp because they're three great running footballers 94 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: and that's what they did. And I thought they looked 95 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: fantastic and I like the way they organized. They shared 96 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: the responsibility there. In fact, I think Kaylen was. 97 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: The chief chief. Yeah, he called the shots. 98 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: And you know what I thought the best part of 99 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: their game was and I heard Dylan Brown talk about 100 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: it in the pre game, which now makes a lot 101 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: of sense because I remember Kayln was saying in the preseason, 102 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: how Justin Holbrook is just allowing them to have all 103 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: their mentality on attack. A lot of teams think about 104 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: defense wins games. Defense wins that, but I don't think 105 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: Knights have the squad to kind of defend their way 106 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: to victories against a really good side. They need to 107 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: be thinking attack all the time and use their attack 108 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: as almost a defense. What I loved about how they 109 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: played was offloads. They're looking for a lot more offloads. 110 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: And when Dylan Brown was playing his best football, it 111 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: was when it was at Paramatta and they were offloading. 112 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: They had the most offloads in the camp by I 113 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: think it was about like double whoever was coming second 114 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: in offloads. 115 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: Well, the Bradman best try is a perfect example tys 116 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: of braseld took the ball up so of hit it, 117 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 2: he engaged three or four times Cowboys defenders and did 118 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: a very late offload that that just kills team. Sand 119 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 2: Smith took it inside board to Kalen outside ball, then 120 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: to Bradman Best. But you're right, Coop, there's some teams 121 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: which have a DNA that we're going to defend our 122 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: way to victory. The best example of that is the 123 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: team that was either in Vegas. We'll talk about the second. 124 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: The Dragons defend. They're gritty and they're tough. 125 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: The Newcastle Knights can't play that style of football with 126 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 2: the players they've got. They need to. They need to 127 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: open their shoulders and play football. And by doing that, Coop, 128 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: when you do that right, it actually fatigues an opposition 129 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: team by how much they've got to do to defender, 130 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: which helps your defend defense in turn and say, but 131 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: I just thought I thought the Knights were very, very good. 132 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: On the other side of it, I thought the Cowboys. 133 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: The Cowboys, if you're a Cowboys supporter, will contest continue 134 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: to frustrate. They had moments they looked really good. I 135 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: mean there were moments in the game they really up. 136 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 2: They up the physical stakes, and that got them sort 137 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: of got got them superiority for periods. 138 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: In the match. 139 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: But it was strange watching a coup. I just because 140 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 2: we're we're commentating breath and eye. You're up and above 141 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: the action, and so you get a really bird's eye 142 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: view of how they structure in their field. Coming out 143 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: of trouble. You could literally throw a blanket over the 144 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: Cowboys players. They're all just jamm behind the ruck. Now 145 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: I understand what they're trying to do. They're trying to 146 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: just drive through the middle to get six gains, but 147 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 2: open the field up, give the illusion like you're going 148 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: to push the ball to the edges, and then in 149 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: turn the Knights will spread their flex their defense out. 150 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: But even then in attack Coup they did the same thing, 151 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: and they are all behind the ball, and they all 152 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: of a sudden sort of flowered outward and run these 153 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: parallel lines. Now my problem with that is, I understand 154 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: what you're trying to do. 155 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: It can be if you're. 156 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: A naive defender, it's very easy to panic and come 157 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: outside in and someone will just replace the space. But 158 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: the very nature of the attack is sideways, and what 159 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: it lends itself to is an easier style of defense, 160 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: meaning you defend them in the side out, which is 161 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: a far easier tackle, which again if you will talk 162 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: about shortly, if you want to watch Jack Howarth at 163 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: the Melbourne Storm, he played in the centers and he 164 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: bucked the trend. He stood wide and just charged it 165 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: inside shoulders and I know what's what's a more difficult tackle. 166 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: So I think that I think the Cowboys have got 167 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: to straighten themselves up a little bit. 168 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: I mean, they've got the team. 169 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: They do it, and they have the team. They've had 170 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: the team for years, and I think it's frustrating for 171 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: a Cowboy, for Cowboys supporters because you look at this 172 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: team on paper. Highland Luki comes back in, who's an 173 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: absolute He's scored a great try over. 174 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: There and he. 175 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 4: Like he's I hope he stays injury free this year 176 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 4: because he is a he's a freak. 177 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: If he hadn't been injured free, I guarantee he'd be 178 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: playing representative footy by now. I think over the last 179 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: two years he's done like two long term injuries. When 180 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: he first came on the scene, I think we debuted 181 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: the same year. Maybe he was a powerhouse. He was 182 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: a powerhouse and no one could stop him. And he's 183 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: obviously been disrupted by injuries and in a side that's 184 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: quite consistent. I'd love to see them get some consistent 185 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: Jackson Perdue. 186 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: I thought he was Perdue. He was very, very good. 187 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: He's very special player. Last year they experiment experimented him. 188 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: Todd Payton did with six. I think it's worth having 189 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: a lookout again. I think he's too good to be 190 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: nailed down on the left side at left center. They 191 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: need more from him. I'd be thinking about that hybrid 192 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: role where you've got you got did and at seven 193 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: and you're going to go drink water and Jackson Purdue 194 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: playing a duel six one role defensively, Okay, they've got 195 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: some things they've got to, you know, with Perdue as 196 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: far as defending three from the edge, it's a challenge. 197 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 2: I think he could handle it. I think that I 198 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 2: think they should look to experiment with that. 199 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: I think they could take a leaf out of the 200 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: Knights book in that sense if they were going to 201 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: do something like that, where you go didn't you got 202 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: Purdue and you've got drinking obviously, and I think diedon 203 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: Is probably could adopt more of a seven role than 204 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: Dylan Brown could. I think if they take that leaf 205 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: out of those books, played quick, lots of offloads and 206 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: just play a lot of footy with those three attacking 207 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: for it, I think the world is their bloody. 208 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: Which start to finish with. I just like to say 209 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 2: about Fletcher Sharp. This kid is a very special players 210 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: and you come out of sess not well yeah, I 211 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: mean look like maybe better than Joey. 212 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: You don't met the other brother. But he's a really 213 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: special player. 214 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: And very occasionally a young player comes along and goes 215 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 2: into a team, regardless of their youth, they transform the side. 216 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: He's got just something special about him that that fifteen 217 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: twenty minutes on the field, let's go through try. 218 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: And wherever he is on the field. That's what's mad 219 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: about Fletcher Sharp. He's literally and I hate saying this, 220 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: but it's the most true thing when you apply to 221 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: Fletcher Sharp, he's just a footballer. He is actually just 222 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: a rugby league player in and out. He can put 223 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: him in any position on the field and he'll have 224 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: a positive impact. 225 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: You know. 226 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: He's the type of kid from the moment he was born. 227 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: Growing up, all he wanted to be was an hour 228 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: role player. 229 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he can bloody like. He seems like the 230 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: kind of bloat that he'd pick up anything really quick, 231 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 232 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 3: Okay, what are we thinking about? 233 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: Okay, with the Knights and the Cowboys, it's funny, you know, 234 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: don't put a line through the Cowboys yet, right, you know, 235 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: goes there saying, let's not just suddenly go it's going 236 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: to be another disappointing year. I can see the Knights 237 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 2: and the Cowboys basically on the ladder almost stalking each 238 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: other all the way through them. Yeah, I think both 239 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: sides will finish somewhere in between. I think seven and eleven. 240 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: Other than last year, they actually have for the last 241 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: I think the last four or so years, they've actually 242 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 4: stalked each other in the ladder a fair bit sat 243 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: just outside the eight, or both sat in the eight 244 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 4: between that eight and four spot, other than last year, 245 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 4: so they've been sort of on par lately. 246 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think somewhere between seven and eleven for me. 247 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: From what I saw from both sides, I've got the 248 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: Knights sitting around ninth and tenth, and then I think 249 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: Cows around fourteen for me. Yeah, right, I think It's 250 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: just one of those things where they've they've been inconsistent 251 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: for enough for a few enough years now, it's almost 252 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: like I don't know if they I don't know if 253 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: from my perspective, I don't know if they have the 254 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: belief that they can do something really special. 255 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: Well, Toddy Peyton would know himself. He wouldn't argue with 256 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: the fact that he has to at least play finals football. 257 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: If they make week one of the finals, he'd probably 258 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: be but I think there would be a meeting, there 259 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: would be discussion amongst the board about okay, is the 260 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: time to move on. He would be safe if he 261 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: reaches second week of the finals, but if he doesn't 262 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: make the eight, then I think they'll move on him. 263 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: Next game up there, Bulldogs for the Dragons fifteen fourteen, 264 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: a absolute overtime banger in Vegas, nailed by Stephen Crichton, 265 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: of all people, for the field goal, his second field 266 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: goal the other one was for Samoa. How did you 267 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: see that game? 268 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: Firstly, I'll just say this for the Dogs. What I'm 269 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: going to talk about primarily of the Dragons and how 270 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: I admired the way the Dragons played so much. And 271 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: if you're a Dog supporter, you can look at that 272 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: game and go, man, they took us all the way 273 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: to golden point. In the last few seconds we pinched 274 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: it and won. Not a great performance, but hang on 275 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: a second. Dragons have proven they can beat anyone on 276 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: their day and they are a very, very tough side 277 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: to play when they're fresh and ready to go, which 278 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: they were in Vegas. So if you're a Dog supporter, 279 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: don't be downcast about that performance. You may look through 280 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: back to the year and go made that. Actually, looking back, 281 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: that was a great win for us. The thing that 282 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: still with the Dogs is the very sat the fact 283 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: and people. 284 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: Are going to give bored with this, but if we're going. 285 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: To talk about football and talk straight, we're going to 286 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: talk about it's seven and six situation. I thought Galvin 287 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 2: played I thought Galvin played well. I thought Maddie Burton 288 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: was patchy, sort of got into the game and disappeared 289 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 2: at times. But the crucial thing about it is with 290 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: about three or four minutes ago they had a scrum 291 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: in normal time where if you've got a pure half 292 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: back you just go right up. We're going to We're 293 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: going to spend two or three tackles trying to score 294 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: the try, but then the next two tackles, we're going 295 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: to set it up. 296 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: We're just going to take the one. 297 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: We're going to do it methodically, right, and that is 298 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 2: that's that's bread and butter for a harvest combination. They 299 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: never even looked like they were going to set up 300 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: for it, and eventually it had to be Stephen Crichton 301 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: in Golden Point that took control. 302 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, their only problem is like they don't have someone 303 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: who's clear and deliberate, like somebody who just gets in 304 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: there and goes, this is what we're doing. Let's have 305 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: a crack first two tackles, and then once we haven't, 306 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: they crack. They literally go get me to the left 307 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: post for a field goal. There's no one there who's 308 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: actually just clear cut and dominant, like right, they've got 309 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: a good team system, they're attacking team system. They all 310 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: know what they're going to do to here. They'll play 311 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: to this point, they'll do this move, but there's never 312 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: someone who is thinking ahead for an actual scenario and goes, 313 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: this is a scenario we're in. This is what we 314 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: actually need to do. Let's get to this point for this, 315 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: Like they don't have They've got great coaching, but they 316 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: don't have that player like a Nathan Cleary who when 317 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: there's a moment, he owns that one moment and goes, 318 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: get me here for this. And that's why it shouldn't 319 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: have to be Stephen Krichten who comes in from left sour. 320 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: It shouldn't have to be. 321 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: And Bailey Hayward in previous campaigns sort of helped the 322 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: halves out a little bit because he's a clever player. 323 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: He can do a bit of direction, jam and salmon 324 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: the same. Hayward's gone into the nine now that's taken 325 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: him away from their role. So there's some challenges there 326 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: for the Bulldogs. But I've got him, you know, don't 327 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: want to jump ahead here. I've actually because of the 328 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: coach and because of the projectory trajectory thereon, I assue 329 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: him being top four. I assume him getting in there. Dragons, 330 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: no on tit the Bulldogs. I'm seeing them get there. 331 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 2: I'm seeing them take that next little step forward. They've 332 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: got some things to work out with their seven and 333 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 2: six on backing them to actually get that right. 334 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 3: For the Dragons. 335 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: As I said before, if they'd won that game, it 336 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: was one of the bravest wins that I've seen in 337 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: my time with football. They were under the gun, They're 338 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: under the pump for the just the whole game. They 339 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: were denied field position. They just hung in there and 340 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: hung in there and really and at the end of 341 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: the day they were dadded. 342 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: How do you see that, Dragons A You're going. 343 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: If that, if that is their standard performance, Coop, then 344 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: I have them a little bit like a bit like 345 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: Newcastle I think in between seven and eleven. The problem 346 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: is you can't perform like that every single week. 347 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: This is the problem. 348 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: They're still lacking quality and really important positions, which means 349 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: for them to win a football game, they got to 350 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: be and as far as intensitive, they've got to be 351 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: at least eight and a half nine out of ten. 352 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: When you look at that, they probably played their best 353 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: footy they could have on that night against the Dog 354 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: like everyone was getting them, tipping them to get beat, 355 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: and they still got beat. They ended it like they 356 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: they played their best the Dragons could and they still 357 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: got beat by Bulldog side that they were there to 358 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: be be like they you. 359 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 4: Could smell an upset even before the game, could jake 360 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 4: even just the way when you're actually in Vegas to 361 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: A lot of players were out and about. You could 362 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 4: see throughout the streets. I didn't see one Dragon's player 363 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 4: the whole week. 364 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were locked down that they really. I interviewed 365 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: shame flanning it through the week and they really had 366 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: their heads on. 367 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: I love while you're talking about the week out of 368 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: Dog as well. Did you see his controversy through the week. 369 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: So there was an only fans star who clapped that 370 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: game on. Her name is Anna Paul, like a big 371 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: only fan star in the world or whatever, and she 372 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: was posting like she posted a video of her clapping 373 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: the mind and the week gutter Dog Salmon commenting on 374 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: it saying thanks for coming Anna, and apparently all the 375 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: wags like, we're really angry that the only fans star 376 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: was in at the game. 377 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 4: But she got full access. Apparently she was given for 378 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: publicity over there. She's been given. 379 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: Full access as you. I mean, I'm not you to 380 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: this sort of stuff. It's a new world. 381 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: This is how oh. 382 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: But you know, like influencers and stuff like that. We 383 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: like in previous years, I've said to you, what are these. 384 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: People do and you get their influenceers? What are they 385 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: going to do well? Now, I'm starting to understand. 386 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 4: Well, these days everyone's trying to hunt for the younger demographic. 387 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 4: Just look at the continuous call team this weekend. 388 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: Bang bang bang. Yeah, I know, welcome back first shift. 389 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: Shout out to Piggy, Neil breen Dale Browman and gaviscon. 390 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: Yeah the one on Yeah, Yeah, it's good Dragons this season. 391 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: I look, I see him a good I see him 392 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: struggling to get outside the bottom four. For guts and determination, 393 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: I give them a ten out of ten. But as 394 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: once again, it is so hard to be consistent, I 395 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: have to win that way. 396 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm the same thing. I think I got the bottom 397 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: four as well. I think they play their best against 398 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: the kind of upset teams that they shouldn't be, and 399 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: then they'll lose against teams that they should be. 400 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: Yep, like that. 401 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: So I'm with you on that. And I've got dogs 402 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: still around that sort of bottom eight like I've got 403 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean, not bottom eight, that's sort of bottom fifth 404 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: and sixth. I still think they haven't got enough to 405 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: beat the likes of like the other people in those teams. 406 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: Like the Sharks, very hard from beat Nathan. 407 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, before we get off Vegas. There was 408 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: one little clip I wanted to show you from Las 409 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: Vegas to do with our man Peter, the Landy's handshandies 410 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: and the dirt bag breath and asta as. 411 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: Well to Greek men. 412 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: They both Greek? 413 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 3: Are they both? 414 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: Of course greeksuse hallooey, love it, love it, love him. 415 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: I have a listener to this. This is some funny stuff. 416 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: It's from the pregame. Any of your dreams not come true? 417 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, honestly, yeah, no I'm not with Margot Robbie, 418 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 4: so come true. 419 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: We've had the same dreams. We've got the same dream 420 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: any of your dream There's that footage that you guys 421 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: used to always show on your show, and it was 422 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: like Braith with the cheerleaders behind him. Yeah, he's always 423 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: and then you go, I think the professor whatever cropped it, 424 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: like where his shirt opens up. He's got all his 425 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: hair like a chain and that. 426 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: Chain he's something. 427 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: Right, there's this tiny little Greek island and there's a 428 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 2: village on that island. Right, pitt Lany's and Nick Polidi's 429 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: family both come from that same tiny village. 430 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 3: Wow, really little village on an island in. 431 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: Groose, successful and wealthy. 432 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 3: And good looking. 433 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 4: Sure haircut, the new haircut got me a beauty. 434 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks good. 435 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 3: Valandas Samana Feathers. 436 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: All right, now we go to the games that have 437 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: just been this week. We'll shoot through these quite quickly. 438 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Storm v. 439 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: Eels Thursday Night, fifty two to four. I mean, you 440 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: kind of Storm haven't lost a round one in the 441 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 1: whole tenure of Craig Bellamy. And they've also never lost 442 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: a game a Thursday night at Amy Park, which was 443 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: another stat. Yeah, I know, I thought that was weird, 444 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: but I as a Storm fan, as an next Storm player, 445 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: I actually was a little bit worried about this game. 446 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: I thought Eels had a lot of wind in their sailors. 447 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: I thought their style of play in years gone by. 448 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: They've also at times really you know, sort of trumped 449 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: the Storm in some games. But I mean Storm just 450 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: put him to the absolute sword. 451 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: They did, they do, and let's not forget like Eel's 452 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 2: got left a great start. 453 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: It's called a beautiful, sweet little. 454 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 4: Try and they won down too. 455 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, with one man down. 456 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: Jonah Peazant and Mitchell Mosey's combining down the left played 457 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: nice and straight, opened a little space up for the outside. 458 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 3: But I thought, oh, here we go. 459 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: But the moment that the Melbourne Storms started to get 460 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 2: acendency through the middle and consistently when the yard had 461 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: set made the spine just took hold. It was first one, 462 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: like you know, the first sign you go, oh, this 463 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: is going to go bad for the Earls was Jerome. 464 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: Jerome Hughes beaten one or two blokes and you go 465 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 2: here it goes. 466 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 467 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 2: They can feel that they're starting to get on top. 468 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: Then of course Munster and it was one of the 469 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 2: Harry Grant in a career of incredible games, was one 470 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: of his best. 471 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: I thought I was one of Harry like saying something 472 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: when that was one of Harry's greatest games because he 473 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: was out that try. He scored from about forty out 474 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: where Isaiah Young He come into the line as a 475 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: bit of a wide a and it was a two 476 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: markers down. Harry just took off. He looked quick for 477 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: such a small jockey. Man, I haven't seen him run 478 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: that quick in a long time. And he's run away. 479 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 3: From the police. 480 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 2: I said before Jack, Howarth, he's really coming to himself, 481 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: I mean Jack to me looks more like a back rower, 482 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 2: but he's using that like if you watch him. Like 483 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: I said before, the trend these days with Sanatas is 484 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: to beat their man once again, sort of on the 485 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: outside with certain shapes. Jack just winds up and challenges 486 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: the inside shoulder. It's a really tough tackle. Like you know, 487 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: if you're a center and you're playing against Jack, howith 488 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: you're going to go in the game and go, okay, Oh, 489 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: he's going to challenge me physically. You're going to wear 490 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 2: bruises And I like that. It's a bit of a 491 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: throwback center. I just thought they were coop. They're fantastic, 492 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: And once again I was with you and going to 493 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: the game and thinking, man. 494 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 3: This could be I've got to film. 495 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: This might be the year that they get knocked over 496 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: first round. 497 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 3: It could lead to a difficult year. 498 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: But the young guys, again, the younger guys who have 499 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: stepped up and taken the jersey from other guys that 500 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 2: were there before, were fantastic. In particular, thought Joe Chan 501 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: he's taken a couple of years to really find his feet. 502 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: He's showing glipses, but he's headed for a big Yeah. 503 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: I thought that and that right edge of the storm 504 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: has always been the go to where they've leaked a 505 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: lot of points actually in that edge, and you saw 506 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: the Eels go there early with a nice, beautiful shape. 507 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: They kind of caught out Jerome and Jackie Howth on 508 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: that side scored a nice dry but you saw it 509 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: as the game went on. Joe Chan did a really 510 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: good job at back row, putting a pazzed under a 511 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: lot of pressure, forced a couple of eraors out of him. 512 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: But I thought, for me, I thought the best player 513 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: actually on the field, standout player. And I think I 514 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: said this in our season preview chatting to Harry and 515 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: some of those lads about how Sue far Logo was 516 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: going to bring just a new energy to that side. 517 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: I think they've been when they had paps there. They've 518 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: been together for a very long time. They knew each 519 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: other's game inside and out. They probably didn't look to 520 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: differentiate their attack enough as they probably should have. Where 521 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: sewers come in as just fresh legs, he's not necessarily 522 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: as silky as peraps on shape, but he's unbelievable off 523 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: offloads off the cuff player and you saw him like you' 524 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: scored that little chip and chase try that. A lot 525 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: of the fullbacks won't chance their hand in there, but 526 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: Suwar has been doing I haven't seen him like he 527 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: used to do chip and chases at training all the time. 528 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: They'd come off like fifty sound of the time. But 529 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: you see him in big games like that, like it's electric. 530 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: Remember watching you guys play Sunshow Coast Falcons and when 531 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: he was just emerging, going this is little Blake. He's 532 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 2: got something about him. But one thing that one of 533 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 2: the secrets of the Melbourne Storm success and longevity has 534 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: been the ability to keep producing quality players in spying positions, 535 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: in important positions, like I mean, look at halfback over 536 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: the years that started off you had Brett Camorley, followed 537 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: by Matt Orford, followed by Cooper Kronk and so on, 538 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: and so for kids rolling forward. Then you go into 539 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: the fullback I mean the hook of positions and other examples. Yeah, Harry, 540 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: you had you know, Cameron Smith, and you know, how 541 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: can you replace him? Suddenly this Harry Grant, and the 542 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: fullback position starts. 543 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: With Robbie Ross. People forget what a great player he. 544 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: Was, Billy Slater, greg Inglis Ryan Pappenhausen and now Sewer. 545 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: Even j Jerome Hughes months so they all started the 546 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: Scotti drinkwater. 547 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. 548 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: And even before Smittie, which a lot of people n 549 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: Niko Hines, a lot of people don't even realize. Before 550 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: Smithy they had Richard Swain there who was actually representative 551 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: for New Zealand at Hooker, and even Smithy asked me yourself, 552 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: like you you learn more from the plot that sort 553 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: of senior player in your position before, probably than anybody 554 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: in your career ever. Like coaches have a lot of 555 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: influences that's seen your player who's in a position before. 556 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: You adopt a lot of their traits naturally when you're 557 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: a young player, and it's just been passed on generation, 558 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: like Harry's getting to a level now we're in my opinion, 559 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: I think he's the second best booker of all time 560 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: right now, behind Smithy, I think probably. I think Danny 561 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: Verdeiris was probably second. I think Harry's piped Betsy. 562 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 563 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: I think you look at those great hookers and you 564 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: go Cameron definitely number one. And you've got Harry, you 565 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: got Betsy, you got Benny alive. It gat you got 566 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: Steve Walters. Yeah, I can't argue with that, Coops. 567 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: And I've got an early crow here right on Sue 568 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: far Loo. I've been thinking about this through the week. 569 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people don't realize how 570 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: probably he's come straight over from Samoa, from the islands, 571 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: like Sua grew up in Victoria out like played junior's 572 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: just at a I think it was Werribee or Sunbury 573 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: like one of those out near the airport there, playing 574 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: local junior footy. Barely really when he first come to Melbourne, 575 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: barely really spoke English, Like Wow, for him to come 576 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: as far as he has in the sort of four 577 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: years he's been in three years he's been in the 578 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: system down there is phenomenal. And you can see how 579 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: confident he is with his talk and that now out 580 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: in the field, even organizing defensive lines like they've educated him. 581 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: So I think it's one of their greatest transitions for 582 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: a player. 583 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 3: Isn't that remarkable? And you take that, you think about that, 584 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 3: and we. 585 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: See that with we said that with Fijian players, with 586 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 2: Tongan players, with Samoan players. Is that coming from you know? 587 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: And like you know two, he come from this island, 588 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 2: remote island, Fiji comes to Australia a totally different culture 589 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 2: and way of life. English is second language, and the 590 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: ability to adapt to that and be successful. It's just remarkable. 591 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: Melourne storm at least second week of the finals. At 592 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,239 Speaker 2: least second week. Now people go, well, come on, we've 593 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: got to be top four. 594 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: No guarantees. 595 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: Is quickly season can turn on and said, Harry's enjoying 596 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 2: one of the best games we've ever seen. Suddenly he 597 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: goes down and at first like he was grabbing his 598 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: knee and that's where go, well, mate, that could be 599 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: the season when you lose a player like there's just 600 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: no guarantees Melbourne being able to sustain that. They don't 601 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: have the same depth as they had in previous years. 602 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: That might bite him a little bit. But I've got 603 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 2: him at least second week of the finals. 604 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got him in there as well. I think 605 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: second week of the finals. I honestly think and like, 606 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: I think they're going to have a better season this year. 607 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: And I know it's a weird thing to say, but 608 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: I've just got a weird feeling about how silky their 609 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: attack is looking. 610 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: Do you know what on the Australian tool Fox told 611 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: me what Harry's nickname was. 612 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: What who Denny? 613 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 3: Heindy because he's lost he has won a Grand Final. 614 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 3: Know that is so is that you don't think about that. 615 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: That's sad, I know, and because people forget that he 616 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: was he went to the Tigers on loan deal when 617 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: Storm won in twenty twenty, so he wasn't even a 618 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: part of like that and he's always not that he's 619 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: burned because going to the Tigers was the best thing 620 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: for his career development. 621 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 4: But that's that's your opinion. 622 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: Well I think it was. He's done pretty good since yeah, wow, 623 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: that's sad for them to do that to him. 624 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 2: Look, I don't right, if you're a payment offent, don't 625 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: please don't don't write them off. They've got a few 626 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 2: things to work on. You've got an extend about Jonah 627 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 2: And I said this a lot. You know, sometimes sometimes 628 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 2: players when they when they first come in, what happens 629 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: is someone gives a player rap, then someone else gives 630 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: them rap the next person and all of a sudden, 631 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 2: boom boom, and they start to say, mate, they're an 632 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 2: elite player. 633 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: They're almost to finished product. 634 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 2: Jonah is still a rookie. Yeah, aiding An, He's still 635 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 2: a rookie. He come into the Melbourne Storm to have 636 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: a game here in a game. There a couple of games, 637 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: as you know, Coop, There's there's so and Jack. There's 638 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: such a big difference with consistently being there every week. 639 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: He's a new club. 640 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 2: He's trying to form new combinations in Sydney. Going to 641 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: take time in Sydney and to play Melbourne first up. 642 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 2: You can see you're playing against your side. You got 643 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: a point to prove. But Melbourne no Jonah inside out. 644 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 2: They keep going at him and isolating him. Tough night 645 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: for Jonah. It was tough night for Riley Smith as well. 646 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: You know, it's really important that those two boys start 647 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: to find toward their best football, become their best selves 648 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 2: to help Mitch Moses along. 649 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: Do they mate the eight? You reckon the else? 650 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 3: God? 651 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: This is hard again, so hard, Coops. I have them 652 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 2: somewhere in between. I have them in between eight and eleven. 653 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the only defining factor is if how 654 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: many games Mitch Moses. 655 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: Plays, Mitch Mos without debt the most important player. Oh yeah, 656 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: Dylan Walker in very important player too. 657 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to the next game. Because this was 658 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: probably the upset of the round Warriors versus the Roosters 659 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: forty two to eighteen. I don't think many people saw 660 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: this coming. I mean, how did you see it? The combination. 661 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: Let's first of all, let's talk about the combination for 662 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: the Roosters, Sam Walker and DC. That's been all the 663 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: chat around. You know how they're going to combine. I thought, 664 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: I think Chess and Walks will be really disap pointed 665 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: with how their attack panned out. I think they were 666 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: straight away they were behind the eight ball from the 667 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: Wires come out firing and you looked at the completion 668 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: rates at full time. You can see why the Wires 669 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: won and you can see why that's such a successful 670 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: year the last two years because they've had this really 671 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: simple style of playing where they just roll forward, get 672 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: rugsby with their big boys. They don't overcomplicate their shape, 673 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: they know their strengths. They just played their strengths and 674 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: they completed about ninety percent, which at Round one. The 675 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: biggest killer is as soon as fatigue comes in, people 676 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: make errors, errors in the play the ball because they're 677 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: not used to match fitness, and I think I think 678 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: the Roosters, with all their attacking threats, they probably tried 679 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: to play a little bit, yeah, a little bit too much, 680 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: and you saw their completion rate was really poor in 681 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: that game. 682 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 3: They tried to do too much. 683 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: They went into they tried to they tried to finesse 684 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: in football their way to dominance superiority where they just 685 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: had to first and foremost they had to match the 686 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: middle the Warriors, and they're well equipped to do that, 687 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: but they just tried to They just tried to be 688 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: They tried to do too. 689 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 3: Much with the football. 690 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as Chairs and Sam are concerned, don't 691 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: get there. 692 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 3: At the moment, it looks like oil and water. But 693 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 3: it's the other thing. 694 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: Like mate halves get too much credit when the team 695 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: wins and get too much blame when you lose. At 696 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: the end of the day, your middle must roll forward 697 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: for you to gain ascendency. On the other side of it, 698 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: I just admire the Warriors so much. I admire them 699 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,239 Speaker 2: so much and keep your spot on. One of the 700 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: most important things you must establish when you're a coach 701 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: and a football side is what type of football you 702 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: must play to be successful. Warriors know that as you 703 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: said before mate. Number One high physicality, like tear in, 704 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: like you have challenge them when you got the football, 705 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: tried to hurt them when you've got the football, hurt 706 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: and when you defend them. Number two high completion, right, 707 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: I don't waste the football, you know, don't turn it over. 708 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: Let's not waste Let's not put too much pressure on 709 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: our defense. Let's just get through our sets of six. 710 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: Knock it down the the end of the field. You 711 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: match that with a high energy defense. Those three things right, 712 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: and that that carries you a long way to start with. 713 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: And when you start to like if you don't search 714 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: for your attack and you do all those things right, 715 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: your attack will come to you, if that makes sense. 716 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 2: And the other thing I was really happy for was 717 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: was tenor boy. Ten has had like you know, like 718 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: he's a kid and I said this on a Sunday 719 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: Night show. He's a kid that you can just tell 720 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: he and Chanel that confidence doesn't come naturally to them. 721 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: And he's had some really difficult times. You know, there 722 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 2: was that Newcastle game where kept missing those kicks and 723 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: I really went out for him when he did that 724 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: show and go and went through and scored. 725 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 3: I thought that could be a real turning point in 726 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: his career. Best came. 727 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: I've certainly played inn RL level and Chanel was a powerhouse. 728 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: Like Tanner came through. We come through the same age, 729 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: and he was always like a game coming through, got 730 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: the first grade, kind of highly sought after, and then 731 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: never really lived up to the expectation of it. Copped 732 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: a lot of shit. He's dealt with a lot of 733 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: stuff probably the last five years of his career. But 734 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: I think in that like it's probably made him a 735 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: little bit like, like it's it's gotten as bad as 736 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: it possibly can for me in terms of like hate, Like, 737 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: I think it's probably made him a little bit resilient 738 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: because he come out in that game. I haven't seen 739 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: him play a game like that. It's like since Yeah, 740 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: unbelievable how he directed that. 741 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 4: You can't forget to last year. The Reserve Grade Warrior 742 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 4: is led by him went on an absolute golden run 743 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 4: last year too, Like they were one of the best 744 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 4: Reserve Grade sides of all the time. You know. Yeah. 745 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: A good shout out to another friend of the show, 746 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: Billy Smith. I thought he was Rooster's best nafar who 747 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: White was really good as well. But it's good to 748 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: see Billy Smith. He's been injured long term for a 749 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: lot of times, and he was, I reckon their biggest 750 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: attacking threat on the edges. 751 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: He was really meaningful. Yeah, he really worried him on 752 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: that left edge. And Tedesco was Todesco he was he 753 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: was very good again. But it's interesting, I have the wars. 754 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: I have the wars. You they've got Metcalf coming back 755 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: and with Mitch Barnett coming back, that's two begins. I've 756 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: got them. I've got them top four. 757 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't have him I think when we did 758 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: our season preview, but now I've got They've They've rocketed 759 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: up in my books, like they've got it in there. 760 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: And the most important part is they'll jag a lot 761 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: of wins just based on how on their completion rate 762 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: the first quarter of the season. Like they'll get those 763 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: wins when teams are still starting to figure out how 764 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: they want to play. 765 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 2: Last year, Coop, I thought that struggled last year in 766 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 2: particular when they first came in Vegas and they played 767 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: Canberra and you didn't have a real root on how 768 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 2: Camber going to go. Looking back, it wasn't as bad 769 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 2: as performance, so I thought it was going to be. 770 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: But when I said it's important to understand what sort 771 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: of football side you are in that game, they've just 772 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: ventured away from how they should play. It was almost 773 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: like Andrew Andrew webs took it, dipped his time in 774 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: the wood and said, are we in a position now 775 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: to starting to open up our attack? 776 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 3: And they weren't. 777 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: Now he's returned to the well, and that gives me 778 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,719 Speaker 2: great confidence that they're going to have a really big season, 779 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: given the fact that you know what you saw the 780 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: other night. There was nothing chancing about the way they 781 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: played though on methodical. 782 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: To me, I've still got the Roosters top four. I think. 783 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: I think they didn't play their best on the weekend, 784 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: but knowing what that spine and Reese Robson came back 785 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: in soon, knowing what that's spineal like, I've got no 786 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: doubt that Teddy Chaz walks in and get in there 787 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: and brick by brick, they're just going to better themselves 788 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: each week. 789 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 3: I don't see him really see them top four. 790 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: I've seen this too much with the Roosters, mate, you know, 791 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: I've got them anywhere from anywhere, from five tonight, So you. 792 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: Got it, they're even a chance to miss the eight 793 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: Dolly parton. 794 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 3: Working five to. 795 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: That's Cooper nowadays. 796 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,239 Speaker 1: I was fed to ten working five to before they 797 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: had a fight and dismantled the show. 798 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 3: Well, it's like me on Sunday nights working six to seven. 799 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: A way to me six. 800 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: Okay, let's stop being weird. Broncos v. Penrith straight off 801 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: this game on the Friday night Penrith twenty six the 802 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: Broncos nil. When was the last time we've seen a 803 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: Premiers come back the next year and get beat round one, 804 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: but not only beat held to zero? 805 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: Matthew, not till nine and fifties. 806 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. 807 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: It is, well, they played against the team that are 808 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 2: well equipped to do it. One of my favorite songs 809 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: from and Jacks from the Great Ted Nugent is that stranglehold. 810 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 4: It wasn't a good bloke though, was he ten. 811 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 2: We don't necessarily agree with these politics, but I don't 812 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: know him as a man. I don't know, but they 813 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: just choked him out. I strangled them every time they 814 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: gave the Broncos the ball. Just ninety percent of the 815 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 2: ball of Broncos got when they are coming off their 816 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: own out of their own ten modle line. They were 817 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: just so goody and it just frustrated the Broncos so much. 818 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: It was difficult conditions to start with, really humid and slippery, 819 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 2: but they just attacked them with their defense. They gave 820 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 2: the Broncos nothing. They gave him nothing. They made him 821 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 2: work for everything. And the thing about the Panthers why 822 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: they have such an advantage on other sides is they 823 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 2: don't have to do much with the football now. All 824 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: they have to do is oftentimes and you see that 825 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 2: in that game, they play simple work Nathan in the 826 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 2: position for an attacking kick and if he gets you know, 827 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 2: if you get him in position regularly all the time 828 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 2: for attacking kicks during the game, they'll win ninety five 829 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 2: times out of one hundred and the other five times 830 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 2: they're unlucky. And that's the other night you saw that 831 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: Broncos make an error. They marched down attacking kick from 832 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 2: Nathan and invariably he get a result one way, shape 833 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 2: or for him. 834 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: And I think I said in the preseason preview're talking 835 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: about the Broncos, how they were going to come in under, 836 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: I said, I think we were talking about where they 837 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: win again, and I said no, and I thought they 838 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: were going to come in underdone based on you finished 839 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: really late in the Grand Final. A lot of their 840 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 1: boys played World Cup. They didn't come back to preseason 841 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: until about January. I think that game was a good 842 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: example of probably where they were at based on the 843 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: amount of work they've been able to get in in 844 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: the short time they've had. I think they were a 845 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: little bit they just weren't up to it physically like Penrith. 846 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: Penrith gave it to him. They completed high and they 847 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: didn't give him an inch. And like you said with 848 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: Penris attack, the try that Dylan Edwards scored was a 849 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: really good example of it. Like they got a half 850 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: a quick play the ball and then all they did 851 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: was they just the most simple block shape. They actually 852 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: didn't hold anyone up. They just gave Dylan Ards early 853 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: ball and they actually had a number down and he 854 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: just went right foot beat Jack Krzewski and he scored 855 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: in the first half. Like it was really simple. They 856 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: can make really they make defenses just mistackles one on one. 857 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: They're really good at just putting a lot of fatigue 858 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: in and then scoring really tries that look really simple 859 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: and easy to the naked eye. You go, howd they 860 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: score that? But they've the work's been done for the 861 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,479 Speaker 1: last twenty minutes. 862 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: Well that's right, they just burned them out. In fact, 863 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 2: that try looks so easy that they went back and 864 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 2: they had two looks at it. There must have been 865 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 2: an obstruction there was. Corey Pakes just couldn't get across 866 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 2: because it was just so fatigued. 867 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 3: I have the I have. 868 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 2: I've got the Panthers Z Grand Final day and I've 869 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: got them winning the competition, the Broncos, they've got a 870 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 2: lot to enjoy, Like I cannot. You turn on the radio, 871 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 2: you open the newspaper. There was just already so much 872 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,919 Speaker 2: pressure on Madge. You anybody just give me a break 873 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 2: here for one second. Like he won the competition right 874 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 2: now that people are determined to tie the pain thing 875 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 2: to match. Okay, there might be something to do with it, right, 876 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 2: but that's Madge's methods. You can't say you don't hire 877 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 2: Imagine and then go, hey Madge, mate, world, don't we 878 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 2: won the Grand Final? 879 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 3: Now take it easy on them. When you hire a matche, 880 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 3: you hire the regime. 881 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: Right, get off his back, And who's not to say 882 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: that Pain like it doesn't matter who the coach was 883 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: after he won a premiership. Pain might have just wanted 884 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: to move back this side, and like he's made a 885 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 1: decision for his family or I wanted to be closer. 886 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: Who who's to say it is because of the match, 887 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: because it could have happened with any coach. 888 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 3: That's right. 889 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: The facts are Madge one of comp last year with 890 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: the Bronco side who the year before underperformed all year. 891 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, He's got them back. He 892 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: unlocked their strengths that everybody knew the potential they had. 893 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: He managed to do that. 894 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 2: And two thirds of last season, the competition he won, 895 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 2: he was under pressure. Now two thirds of that season 896 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 2: people saying it mate, they're overing, it's done. You know 897 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 2: it wouldn't work. They went to twelfth at one point. 898 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 2: And I remember when he went to the Harbor Cruz 899 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 2: and that people saying, you know, like you know, and 900 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 2: Buzz was saying it, and fair play to Buzz. That's 901 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 2: what Buzz does. You know he has an opinion on stuff. 902 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 2: Is that you know, people saying may he went for 903 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 2: Harbor Cruz. That's ridiculous. What people don't understand was that 904 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 2: Madge wrote down at that point he realized they had 905 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 2: to win a number of games in a row to 906 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 2: crack to make finals, and a little bit more on 907 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 2: top of that, which is almost like had to win 908 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 2: ninety five percent of the games to be top four. 909 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 2: Now when they went on the Harbor Cruz, there's a 910 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 2: young guy who lives in Sydney who has an American passport, 911 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 2: and he was the brains behind the American team in 912 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 2: the Americans Cup coming from eight or seven nil down 913 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 2: to win the America's Cup over New Zealand eight seven. 914 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,720 Speaker 2: That's why they went the play. He told the boys 915 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 2: the importance of the narrative. What is the narrative that 916 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 2: wants you to win? This is going to defy the odds. 917 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 2: That young guy, what he masterminded with the America's Cup 918 00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 2: was that they only need one more to win the 919 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 2: New zeald In side. So they got They brought in 920 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 2: this massive boat almost. 921 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 3: Like you know what do you call them super yacht? 922 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 3: Like a super yacht to sit. 923 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: In the harbor waiting to win. It cost him three 924 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars every day to keep there. His thing 925 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 2: was okay to his American team, let's not worry about 926 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 2: let's not worry about the result or how many we're 927 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 2: gonna win. Let's just make sure every single day, every 928 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 2: race we win is costing them three hundred thousand dollars. 929 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 2: They end up winning at eight seven. So that was 930 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 2: what Madge went through to the Grand Final. That's what 931 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 2: the Harbor cruise was about. 932 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 4: Well, you got his number, cover, they get him on. 933 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 2: I have got his number, you get him on, Yep, 934 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 2: we'll get him on this week. What's he doing of 935 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 2: her For the Broncos. I've got the Broncos anywhere from 936 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 2: three to six. 937 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I got I got Broncos making 938 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: the top eight. But I think they're going to sit 939 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: four to eight. And I think if there's ever a 940 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: team who's going to win from outside the eight, if 941 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: they're peaking in finals, they're the ones to do it. 942 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: And like with I'm with I think Penrith. I think 943 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: they're going to finish probably my premiers Penrith for me 944 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: next game vers your Titans, Daddy, Yeah, oh fifty to ten, yes, 945 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: which was not I think coming off the back of 946 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: those trial forms probably probably didn't see it coming as 947 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 1: much as a Titans fan. But Sharks were really good. 948 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 3: Sharks are really good. 949 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 2: When you go to Shark Park against the Sharks, particularly 950 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 2: early Susan, they want to make a statement, and they're 951 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 2: determined this year to show their fans and everybody were 952 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 2: ready to take the next step. They're going to be 953 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 2: sky high. To match that, you have got to be 954 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 2: sky high emotionally, in energy, you've got to be tip top. 955 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 2: And for whatever reason, I'll sit with Jack, you know, 956 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 2: Jack will watching and jackal testament to this first set. 957 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 2: I went, we're in trouble. Yeah, I could to suit 958 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 2: the first set. There was just they just didn't defend 959 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,760 Speaker 2: with the same energy. Now, okay, let's talk about trial football. 960 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 2: People are saying, oh, you just dismissed trials. There's nothing there. No, 961 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 2: you don't totally dismiss it, because what it does with trials, 962 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 2: what you're doing your trialing to say, do our methods work. 963 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 2: What Hannay put in place, he showed in the trial games, 964 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 2: this works, it works. The second thing you're looking for 965 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 2: is hot is really strong defense, because defense mirrors will 966 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 2: Defense shows your attitude and your determination. What do you 967 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 2: make for the season so there was a lot to 968 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 2: take out for the Titans. In my opinion, I think 969 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is the collective. One of the 970 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 2: dangers of the trial game of football, particularly teams who 971 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 2: are trying to make a statement, is that when they 972 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 2: have really good trials the two weeks going into round one, 973 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 2: they sort of go, we're set. 974 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 4: Same thing as Newcastle with the one hundred percent. I 975 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,760 Speaker 4: feel like trials are really good to get a gauge 976 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 4: on where you can be in the season, your capabilities. 977 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 4: But I feel like trials are really terrible gauze for 978 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 4: round one. 979 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 3: That's right where the very top sides jack what they do. 980 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 3: What they do is they go away. 981 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 2: Even if they're really good in the troll games, they 982 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 2: continue to tinker and test themselves in that two weeks. 983 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 2: So I think it's a really great learning experience for. 984 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 3: The young time. 985 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,919 Speaker 1: It's funny, right because Jeromes Hughes actually said it after 986 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: their game talking about trial form so Melbourne, he said, 987 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: leading up to like a Wednesday of a trial week, 988 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: they were still getting flogged, right, So a lot of 989 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: the players were going to the trial game still saw 990 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: from being flogged during the week. Probably it wasn't until 991 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: literally round one where they've tape it off, they've done 992 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 1: their work, and they go right in now where now 993 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 1: this is our season. Whereas I feel like a lot 994 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: of those other sides because I think a lot like 995 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 1: like I look at the sidelight the Titans, I don't 996 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: think they would have settled on their clear seventeen even 997 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: leading the trials, because you go into a new club, 998 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: Josh Hannah, a club that's been struggling, and you want 999 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: to encourage boys. Every position's up for grapes. I want 1000 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: to show how hungry you all are, and you saw 1001 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: how hungry individuals were in those trials. They're in there 1002 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: bashing blokes, they're showing our hungry they are in defense. 1003 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 1: Some blokes get debuts in round one because of how 1004 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,919 Speaker 1: well they played. And then I think there's a little 1005 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: bit of complacency where they get in there. They fought 1006 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: so hard attitude wise to trials. Mentally, they've been so 1007 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: up for those trials. They come into round one, it's like, yes, 1008 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: I've made it, and that complacency leading in a week 1009 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: that sort of creeps into a whole plane. 1010 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 3: Hadn't trilled. 1011 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,399 Speaker 2: I believe he had tried and the other one who's losing, 1012 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 2: losing half back Jaden Campbell that you know that's a 1013 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 2: tough one as well. But I'm telling you now, like 1014 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 2: and let's move sorry to the Shark. Sharks with magnificently 1015 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 2: unbelievable they the Titans just couldn't control the middle and 1016 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 2: that's the challenge. 1017 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 3: Mate. 1018 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 2: When Adam fer he just speaks for himself. He's one 1019 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,280 Speaker 2: of the best middlemen of all time. But Tommy Hazel bloody, 1020 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 2: he was really good as well as those young forwards. 1021 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 2: They're really tip top and they played with it like 1022 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 2: when they scored early. Jack said to me, don't worry 1023 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 2: too much that we see this from the Sharks. They 1024 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 2: get off quick and oftentimes they can sort of take 1025 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 2: the foot off. They never took the foot off right. 1026 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 2: This is their new attitude. This is they picked that 1027 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 2: up at the back end of last year. They all 1028 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 2: missed a nice guy and you see that there was 1029 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 2: a bit of sledging and they were rubbing the Titans 1030 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 2: nose in it. I'm a Sharks fan. 1031 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 3: I like that. It's a new attitude. Sharkis. 1032 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 2: I see them, I see them anything from a bit 1033 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 2: like Broncos. I see them anything from three six. 1034 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: I've got Shark's top four. I thought how I thought 1035 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: Nico and Trindle that was as best as a game 1036 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: I've seen them combine on for a long time. I 1037 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: think they've always kind of it's like they've been tugging 1038 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: a little bit at each other, like they've been fighting 1039 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 1: a little bit for seven six six. That's what happens 1040 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: with six and sevens man, weird seeing you do it, 1041 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 1: but I think their spine combines you. I think they 1042 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,760 Speaker 1: finally found their dynamic with how they want to unlock 1043 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: the middle and bring Blake Brailey out. I think Blake 1044 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: Brailey so it's back into last year he was he 1045 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 1: was the second best hooker in the colm. I think 1046 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: he's picked up where he's left off and when he's running, 1047 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: he opens the game up so well for Tricky and 1048 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: for Nico. So I think I've got them top four Titans. 1049 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 1: I yeah, I don't really know where they're sitting really 1050 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: at the moment. I think they're going to have to 1051 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: like we saw in the Trolls. I think they just 1052 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: have the mentality. Look at last year Jason Rowles went 1053 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: at the years they got beat by sixty round one 1054 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: by Melbourne Storm. They just got better every week. For 1055 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: the Titans, it's it's let's get let's make sure the 1056 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: next week we improved little by little and we get 1057 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: it better every single week, because that's the only way 1058 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: that you're going to turn around a whole culture. 1059 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 3: Yep. Now without a doubt. 1060 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 2: As I said before, I guarantee just seeing what they're 1061 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 2: about and no one Hannay as a coach watching Hanne's 1062 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 2: methods is they will not finish bottom. 1063 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: Four twenty nine to twenty eight. Raiders v. Manly a 1064 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,919 Speaker 1: great finish, but a blodder of the game the first 1065 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, but ended up with one of the great finishes. 1066 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: Jamal fogged against his old side Ethan Sanders, a young half. 1067 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: I thought he had an outstanding game. Ethan Sanders. I 1068 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,439 Speaker 1: thought the first ten minutes Raiders barely touched the ball. 1069 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: It looks like you can as a Manly fan as 1070 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: a boy that's played at Brookie Oval, and I think 1071 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: a lot of Manly fans who might be listening to 1072 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: this will understand this. They find another leg at Brookie Oval. 1073 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: They're sitting there. You can tell whether they're going to 1074 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 1: win in the first ten minutes and that first ten 1075 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: minutes you go mainly are all over this like Turbo 1076 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: is in everything. Turbo scored an early try. Turbo looked 1077 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: really good or game. I thought he did back to 1078 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: his explosive best. But then they just after that, they 1079 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,439 Speaker 1: just went They just didn't fire a shot. 1080 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,760 Speaker 2: Cooper, I'm actually a little different to you. I watched Manly. 1081 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 2: I think Manley's DNA at home too much is looked 1082 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 2: fantastic in the first twenty minutes, like sideline to sideline, 1083 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 2: Chris passing and then whatever. As he closed to halftime, 1084 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 2: that just they come off. Now they might hang on 1085 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 2: and win, but they just they come off in the 1086 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 2: second half. They almost go into protection mode. They've just 1087 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 2: got to keep playing football. They just got to keep 1088 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 2: playing now in this game, as you said before, terrific start, 1089 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 2: I thought, I thought, actually Foggedy had a strong game. 1090 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 2: Like to like for Foggedy is what he did for 1091 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 2: other players, because you know, chairs was the guy who 1092 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 2: played more off the top of his head and made 1093 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 2: Turbo have to do more talk and organization. I thought 1094 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 2: Foggedy he's a very neat, well organized player. Freed up Tom, 1095 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 2: which is a great sign. But yeah, the game looked 1096 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,760 Speaker 2: like it was well away from twenty eight to fourteen. 1097 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 2: But give me and Jack sitting on the couch and 1098 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 2: when Manly scored that try and ended up going twenty 1099 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 2: eight twenty, I said that Jack Greenstein finish coming. You 1100 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 2: just see it all the time, like we're watching the 1101 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 2: game with Fletcher and Heindi and Josh d Okay with 1102 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 2: Foxy in there, Dolphins against Rabbits, Rabbits, And I said, 1103 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,879 Speaker 2: there used to be a time that when a team 1104 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 2: was up fourteen points with ten minutes to go, you 1105 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 2: go right, let's get a couple of blakes and give 1106 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 2: the young fellers. 1107 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: You can't do that, you cannot, you can. It must 1108 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: say it's a bad day and age to be a 1109 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 1: bloke on the bench because it can change that quickly. 1110 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: In today's game, with the six agains, you can literally 1111 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: score two tries in the space of four minutes. Like 1112 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 1: it's so quick. And you saw that, like they hit 1113 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 1: Tyler Coller out on their left edge. I thought the 1114 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: best sign was then for Turbo. You saw Turbo just 1115 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 1: mowdown Toller so quickly. Beat A couple of players found 1116 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 1: Foggedy for a try, but the Ethan Sanders field goal. 1117 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 1: I thought as a as a Manly as. Obviously I'm 1118 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 1: partially a bit of a Manly fan. I used to 1119 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: play there, but I thought it was really worrying. Signs 1120 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 1: fifth tackle in goal in overtime and Ethan Sanders gets 1121 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 1: it not even not even that deep. He wasn't ten meters. 1122 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 1: He was on the advantage line, and there's no kick 1123 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,399 Speaker 1: pressure from the Many side, Like that's that's not how 1124 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: the DNA of Manly when they play it at home 1125 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 1: at the Fortress is like, we make this a hard 1126 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: place for people to come play. We make this a 1127 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,320 Speaker 1: gritty If they're going to win, they're gonna have to 1128 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: like we're not beating ourselves. We are making this really hard. 1129 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 1: That was not a side it was hungry to win 1130 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: at the Fortress. 1131 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 4: I actually think Sanders probably out smarter than there, Like 1132 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 4: it could have been a game plan, Like I think 1133 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 4: that like when people set up for the field go 1134 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 4: and you see the half getting back, that's when all 1135 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 4: systems ago, whatever structure defensively you have, you you don't 1136 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 4: go out of it like you sorry, you just exit 1137 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 4: that and you just go for the kicker, right, Like 1138 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 4: that's that's all the plan goes to shit. You just 1139 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 4: go for him, right, And the main part is like, 1140 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,320 Speaker 4: because you were so flat, they got off like the 1141 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 4: first three steps, but they didn't actually pressure it. Yeah, 1142 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 4: it might be right. 1143 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: Maybe they thought like when you see someone back there, 1144 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: you can't somebody makes a call, they'll be like field 1145 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: goal kicker, and everybody clicks into like yea, you know, 1146 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: almost like warm mode, and it's just like you triggered 1147 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 1: and you go and put kick pressure on. Maybe right, 1148 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: Maybe because he was flat, they just nobody got that 1149 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: call and they just assumed he was going to kick 1150 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,800 Speaker 1: the corner. Because you're taught, you're taught not to go. 1151 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 4: If you're an AOB defender, you're taught not to come 1152 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 4: out of the defensive line like just one out like 1153 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 4: you've got to go as a team, especially if they're 1154 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 4: going to throw shapey. 1155 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 1: But if it's fifth tackle, it was fifth tackle, I 1156 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:19,839 Speaker 1: think they should have come out. 1157 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 2: Would have been in their minds too mainly just received 1158 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 2: appenally down the other end of forcing the golden point 1159 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 2: by Camber being a step off side. Maybe that was 1160 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 2: in their minds. Maybe they're too conservative, and again maybe 1161 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 2: they'll look along the bloke alongside him saying he's going 1162 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 2: to pressure. Raiders are a fast team. Kaya Weeks was 1163 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 2: gained a meter in the off season. Ethan's strange is 1164 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 2: going to go to the next level again playing on 1165 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 2: the other side of the park, which is funny for 1166 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 2: a lefty he likes playing apparently his favorite sides to 1167 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 2: the right hand side of the park. 1168 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 3: Ethan's left. 1169 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ethan, he looked electric but still off his left foot. 1170 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 2: He did Hudson Young, as we expect, was magnificent and 1171 00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 2: the young bloker Noah Noah martin Man. He has that 1172 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 2: nineties canbra forward head cut, a lot of the mad like. 1173 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 1: It looks like a bloke you'd see just slapping the 1174 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: Pokey's late night at Mooseheads and canbra and just completely 1175 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 1: off his face. 1176 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 4: I don't know about that. 1177 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he is that guy, but that 1178 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,280 Speaker 1: if there was a guy that you'd see at Mooseheads 1179 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 1: playing the pokies, it'd be Wind. It just looks he 1180 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: just looks like that kind of character. 1181 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 4: It looks like a bad guy in like a Cobra 1182 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 4: kais sort of thing like the eighties, like yeah, action movie. 1183 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 4: He looks like the kind of guy that had come 1184 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 4: into a local pub like in Cesnok as a standover man, 1185 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 4: as a bikey and just wrought like the owner for 1186 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:34,839 Speaker 4: heaps of money, well made. 1187 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 2: He look like, go and have a look at Go 1188 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,399 Speaker 2: and have a look at a guy that the big 1189 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,320 Speaker 2: fellow called Darren Fritz used to play for the Raiders 1190 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 2: in the nineties. Man, he's spitting him. He's got the 1191 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 2: huge mullet going. I have Raiders anything from five to nine. Now, 1192 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 2: how dare I say nine? 1193 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 3: Could get to miss it? It's ridiculous. 1194 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 2: It's a young They do have young halves, right, Kobe 1195 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 2: Black's a very good young player. Nthan Sanders has had 1196 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 2: a great start. It's a long season for young halves. 1197 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 2: Got to get a good run of injuries. 1198 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of injuries last night. I think Josh 1199 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 4: Parley got injured yether night, so he misses this week. Yeah, 1200 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,839 Speaker 4: so it's you know, that's the thing to another year. 1201 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 4: Older fans, boys. 1202 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 3: And mainly I've got mainly anything from nine to fourteen. 1203 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 4: I would say nine to five again. I was about 1204 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,280 Speaker 4: to go, Honestly, I'm going to get Dolly Parton on repeat, 1205 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 4: coming on. 1206 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: I've still got, I've still got I've got both of 1207 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: these sides missing the eight. Still. Yeah, I thought Canberra 1208 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: are really good and maybe that surprised me, but I yeah, 1209 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,839 Speaker 1: I thought, I think I just still I didn't see 1210 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: enough of them. I feel like if they weren't playing 1211 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: a side like Manly who can play very patchy, like 1212 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: they played ten minutes and they can beat you in 1213 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: ten minutes sometimes because they score eight tries in ten minutes, 1214 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: but they can also just be like a really bottom 1215 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 1: four side in ten minutes. So I thought that side 1216 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: that that game was a really low quality game from 1217 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 1: both sides. They both be really disappointed with it. That's 1218 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 1: why I got them both out of the eight. And 1219 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 1: the last game red Cliffe Dolphins first the South Sydney 1220 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: rabbit Oz. 1221 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 3: This is strange game. 1222 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: Strange game, forty to thirty to the Abbidos. I mean 1223 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 1: I actually had rabbit Os thirteen plus I had them. 1224 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 1: I thought they're going to be all over them. When 1225 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: ashton Ward went down, they really struggled for a bit, 1226 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 1: like particularly defensively on that right edge. Dolphins had a 1227 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 1: couple of quick tries. Hammer scored a really good tryout 1228 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: on that on that left side, for them. It was 1229 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 1: a really strange game, really really strong. 1230 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 2: Christian Wolf's going to find a way to get Trey 1231 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 2: Fuller and that start, he's just too. 1232 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,360 Speaker 1: Good when he come on. I thought that was like 1233 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: the different like he drew a lot of penalties just 1234 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 1: get because he gets in between players. And I played 1235 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: against Trey before even like he is so he's almost 1236 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 1: impossible to tackle. It's like, I don't think I've tried 1237 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 1: to tackle a stronger player than Trey Fuller. And it 1238 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,280 Speaker 1: sounds weird because he's small, but he's so core strong. 1239 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 2: What about like now, like the fullback position evolves and 1240 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 2: changes all the time. At the moment, the small compact fullback, 1241 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 2: it is the way to go, Sewer Joe Gray. You 1242 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 2: know Trey Fuller can get back there. I think they've 1243 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 2: just got to find a way to get him in 1244 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 2: the left side from from south. Wasn't really conditions to 1245 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 2: suit them. I like the fact that Wayne was going 1246 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 2: to play day for Feeder for eighty minutes. You've got 1247 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 2: simbing towards the end with eight minutes to go. 1248 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 3: It looked good though, Yeah, yep, yes, it looked good. 1249 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 4: It was very much their sort of game though. I 1250 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 4: thought those boys like it was how many points were scored? 1251 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 4: Sixty or so? 1252 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, seventy points. Yeah, seventy points and. 1253 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 4: That's the that's the I think I saw a stat 1254 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 4: that's the sixth game in a row that the Dolphins 1255 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 4: have been a part of where there's been sixty or 1256 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,399 Speaker 4: more points scored, well, which is first time in Premiership history. 1257 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 1: Well, and the weather up there, it was that when 1258 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 1: we're because we were doing continuous call team previewing into 1259 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,399 Speaker 1: that game and the weather we had JT on the phone. 1260 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 1: J he said, the weather up he was that bad, 1261 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: like this is going to be a low scoring game. 1262 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 3: And then it was almost cyclonic. 1263 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, two teams that just want to go all out 1264 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 1: attack and they still scored seventy points in a game. 1265 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:45,879 Speaker 3: But both of those sides. 1266 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 2: It's a very Dolphin South's result, wasn't we in the 1267 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 2: previous years? Yeah, Dave, it was good probably six and 1268 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 2: a half seven out of ten. There were still moments 1269 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 2: that Wayne to look at, I reckon probably pull the 1270 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 2: video out and chip you say, mate, there was once 1271 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 2: where he sort of just sort of submitted and tackle 1272 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 2: and put the ball on the ground just a little 1273 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 2: like that. I really like the latrell at left center. 1274 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 2: His involvement will pick up. Big story man coming into 1275 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,800 Speaker 2: this week is and just quickly too. The bloke who's 1276 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 2: going to be the beneficiary of that left side, he's 1277 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 2: going to be He's going to be Campbell Graham and 1278 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 2: the other faraway. Yeah, because if you think they're going 1279 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 2: to throw, they're going to throw shape at you down 1280 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,839 Speaker 2: that left edge right It's going to take a lot 1281 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 2: of defenders to solve that problem. 1282 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 3: Leave you short on the other side. 1283 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 1: First shot, that first try they went, David gets to 1284 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: one on one, quick play the ball. Cody's sitting on 1285 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 1: that left side. Bronson Gala gets out, shows to Cody, 1286 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 1: cuts back, finds Cam Murray on the right and they 1287 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 1: just go out the back, zing to Jai Gray who 1288 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 1: gets it to White and quick tip onto Campbell Graham. 1289 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: Like that's going to be their sequence. They're going to 1290 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: use David Feeder all year. Quick play the ball, Cody 1291 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 1: either rip up that short side or they'll check short side, 1292 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 1: go to Cam Murray in the middle, and they'll just 1293 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 1: hit that right edge straight away. Because you saw that 1294 00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 1: they were unstoppable when they did that. 1295 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 2: Well, Aj it's funny Latrell went across the trial line 1296 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 2: once with Aj just outside him. I thought he's going 1297 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 2: to feed him the ball. So he's only got one 1298 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,799 Speaker 2: try to get next week against the Roosters. Needs two 1299 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 2: against the Roosters to break the Ken nervines record. 1300 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 4: Wayne Wayne's responds in the press. So Wayne said he's 1301 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 4: not happy about it. He doesn't want it to storm 1302 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 4: the field. Wayne's funny, though, I feel like Wayne's very 1303 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 4: much like he likes to be in control. Maybe he's 1304 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 4: thinking very much a tennis sort of tactic if they 1305 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 4: stop the game and then everyone cools down and might 1306 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 4: not be good for a side like his. 1307 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 2: But it's a hard thing to say because if you 1308 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,839 Speaker 2: get there and say, you know, would storm the field, 1309 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 2: and you said, yeah, yeah, they should do it, then 1310 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 2: he could be complicit if something happens. Yeah yeah, So 1311 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 2: I'd love to see him break it next week, I 1312 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:45,320 Speaker 2: reckon He'll. 1313 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 1: Imagine against the Roosters he breaks it and then can 1314 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 1: you imagine how off the Roosters players would be as 1315 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,800 Speaker 1: just all these fans storm the field and you imagine 1316 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 1: if he scores two tries, you imagine Rabbitos are probably 1317 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,720 Speaker 1: up at that time like they're probably winning. 1318 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 4: That's why I reckon. That's why I think Wayne doesn't 1319 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,920 Speaker 4: like it. I think if they score two tries, they're 1320 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 4: likely going to be up, and if there's a school 1321 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 4: down factor, they lose momentum. 1322 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,359 Speaker 1: I'd love for it to be in like the last 1323 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: ten minutes of the game. 1324 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 2: Try yeah, try the end as a match winner. Dolphins. 1325 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 2: The other side, Dolphins, it's everyone knows they can score 1326 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 2: points at the best to take in. 1327 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 1: The side last year and points best attacking side. 1328 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 3: But just defense with lets him down. 1329 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,919 Speaker 1: I thought was actually really strong in different hands. 1330 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 3: Yes, I thought he was good. Some beautiful touches. 1331 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 2: Wolfy will probably look and say, there's a few a 1332 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,359 Speaker 2: couple of wrong options, but you know he's mate, he's 1333 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 2: on the up and up. 1334 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,399 Speaker 4: What is it? What is it with that likes their 1335 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 4: attack so great? It's been like that for the last 1336 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 4: two years, Like, what is it? Do you reckon? There's 1337 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 4: just a balance and focus or defense versus attack. 1338 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:48,880 Speaker 3: Or definitely Jack definitely. 1339 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,320 Speaker 2: There's a lot of young players on that side, and 1340 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,880 Speaker 2: what what sounds like a really easy thing to do 1341 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 2: is difficult, and that's transition quickly from attack to defense, 1342 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 2: particularly when you're going balls out, it's going pushing the 1343 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 2: ball around. Suddenly you turn it over. And that's why 1344 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 2: I go through back and look back at my career. 1345 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,759 Speaker 2: The side that was a nightmare to play against with 1346 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 2: the great Raider sides, because what they would do, Mate, 1347 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 2: they had this amazing attacking arsenal and they just run 1348 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 2: you around. But what they do is when they turn 1349 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 2: the ball over, it they. 1350 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 3: Just pushed the shit out of here. They just can 1351 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 3: just give it to you. 1352 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 4: You know. 1353 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 1: The biggest moment for me in that game, which was 1354 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 1: the biggest turning point that you go, Okay, now South's 1355 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 1: going to win. I think it was. It was the 1356 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:33,160 Speaker 1: second half Dolphins were just had they had us sous 1357 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 1: completely on the ropes. They were inside their own thirty. 1358 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 1: It was fifth tackle and Cody Walker kicks a forty 1359 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: twenty from his own thirty on fifth tackle, which any 1360 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 1: rugby league fans should know. It should be impossible to 1361 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 1: kick a forty twenty on fifth tackle. Like, the only 1362 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: time you should be able to kick a forty twenty 1363 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 1: is in the early tackles when their wingers haven't dropped back. 1364 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 1: Fifth tackle, your wingers all three should be back there 1365 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 1: there shouldn't be an excuse for top pressure, Yeah, but 1366 00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 1: they should be an excuse for him not to catch 1367 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 1: it on the full. And they kicked it right in 1368 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: between Jamaina Sako still dropping back and the Hammer was 1369 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 1: back there and he just went one bounce straight to 1370 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 1: forty twenty and then from there they had to defend 1371 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 1: two or three sets on their line and they were 1372 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 1: sort of gone from there. 1373 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 2: The Dolphins do they trust their attack too much? Are 1374 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 2: they so confident they can outscore a team that they 1375 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 2: can place with their defense if they can borrow that 1376 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,439 Speaker 2: thing from the great Raider sides, even just in little 1377 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 2: meant some of that attitude then make their that they 1378 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 2: pushed toward the top. 1379 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 1: Their skills and attack through Isaiah Toha and Hammer and 1380 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: the blokes like that. I think they're better than nearly 1381 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 1: every team in the comp in that sense, but they 1382 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 1: just lack just little things that let them down, Like 1383 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,880 Speaker 1: you said, like the back three pendulum, like they call 1384 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 1: that pendulum at the back. Like the good teams like 1385 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 1: Penrith and Storm and those top four sides, like they 1386 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 1: don't lapse in those areas and then aside, like the Dolphins, 1387 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 1: they just have these minute concentration areas which just completely 1388 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 1: flip momentum and they can't build pressure. 1389 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 3: Coop I. 1390 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 2: Jeremy Marshall King was a loss. He went to a 1391 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 2: fun park with his kids, slipped at the fun park 1392 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,040 Speaker 2: and did his knee. 1393 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 3: No, I don't know when Wild, Wild and wet. I 1394 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 3: think it was Moving World. 1395 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 4: That was the Dharma attraction in movie World. 1396 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 3: Wants a Wife. 1397 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: I haven't been him, but we should go like to 1398 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: those theme parks. 1399 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 3: Well, mate, where it got Titans. 1400 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 4: Jersey sponsors the road. 1401 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 1: You know what's mad Seawell's got rides now too? 1402 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 3: Has it? 1403 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a ride there. 1404 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 2: I just I just I've lost all my trust in dolphins, 1405 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 2: not not this football side actually the itself. 1406 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just find them disingenuous. I love it. 1407 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 2: I have sometimes I have South's anywhere from I have 1408 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 2: house anywhere from seven to ten. I have Dolphins. After 1409 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 2: watching that, I've got them anything from the hedging your 1410 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 2: Best Today five to tenche'se your heads. 1411 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 1: In your best Today. 1412 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 4: I looked at the rabbits that think like just like 1413 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 4: even there, like the way Cam Murray played himself and 1414 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 4: him him coming back and he got up as a backup. 1415 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 4: I see them getting in the eighth for sure. 1416 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 1: I've got them. I've got them a lock for the eight. 1417 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: I think Jamie Humphries comes back around three and Brandon 1418 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Smith comes back as B and I think they really 1419 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 1: missed a bloke like Brandon in there. I thought Brandon's 1420 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,959 Speaker 1: going to bolster that forward pack right up, him playing 1421 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 1: off the back of Mari and blokes like that, and 1422 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 1: then having Garlic coming off the bench for it, like, 1423 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna. 1424 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 3: Be a good one to just avoid those injuries. 1425 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 4: Well, very that's one exp point, Like, very rarely do 1426 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 4: you see a team that has a year with a 1427 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 4: horrendous injury crisis like they did last year, and they 1428 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 4: have they have it to years in a row, very rarely, 1429 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 4: Like does it happen to row? 1430 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 1: There's that saying, right, and it's that saying that it's 1431 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 1: an old folklore. I think it was from back in 1432 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 1: the day, and it's lightning doesn't strike twice, And I 1433 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 1: can't see lightning striking twice the South Sidney Rabbits. 1434 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:48,000 Speaker 3: I disagree with that. 1435 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,640 Speaker 2: I've got evidence from do you know when they shop 1436 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 2: with the Mel Gibson movie The Passion of the christ YEP. 1437 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 4: I've heard about it, I've never actually seen it's it's 1438 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 4: a masterpiece. 1439 01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 3: The guy who was the he was in charge of audio. 1440 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 2: He was standing on Calgary Hill where the CRUs faxon 1441 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 2: happened and got struck by lightning twice in the shooting. 1442 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 4: Is he alive? 1443 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go. 1444 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,439 Speaker 1: I just googled while you were dribbling about that weird story. 1445 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 1: Has anyone been struck by lightning twice? Yes, one person, 1446 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,920 Speaker 1: Although it's extremely rare one it's being struck by twice 1447 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 1: is estimated to be one in nine million chance. The 1448 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 1: famous case of Roy Sullivan, a US park ranger who 1449 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 1: was struck seven times. 1450 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 4: And survives a few porky's. There no way it can't 1451 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,919 Speaker 4: be struck seven times and live to tell the tale. 1452 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 2: The HP is still in the National surf competition called 1453 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 2: Surface one day almost a clear sky. Your mum will 1454 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 2: talk about this. There was one cloud in the sky. 1455 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 2: A surfer call French Cervi called Pierre toss D. 1456 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 3: Was standing there. 1457 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 2: He literally went boom on the beach, got struck by lightning, 1458 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,960 Speaker 2: went the hospital, survived and then got out of hospital 1459 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,920 Speaker 2: and got hit by a bar us and surviving, survived, 1460 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 2: That is. 1461 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:03,040 Speaker 1: What we're doing now. 1462 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 3: I think he's a life game. 1463 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 1: Ruy Sullivan seven separate lightning strikes between nineteen forty two 1464 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 1: and ninety seventy seven, according to the Guinness Book of 1465 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:14,720 Speaker 1: World Records. So he's in there, you. 1466 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 4: Reckon between the forties and the eighties. Keep they're really 1467 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 4: doing their due diligence. 1468 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 3: Can we try to get it here on the podcast. 1469 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 4: Listener to hallucinative drugs quite prominent during that period that 1470 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 4: he died nineteen eighty three. 1471 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 3: I'm curious. 1472 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 2: I guess was hit by lighting nine times eventually killed him. 1473 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,439 Speaker 2: Hopefully wasn't the flu Sullivan. 1474 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 1: Clause of death. He reportedly passed away due to unrequited 1475 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,000 Speaker 1: love and depression. 1476 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 4: Oh that geez interesting. 1477 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 2: We might just id like to leave a podcast and 1478 01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 2: a negative Nope, but it feels fitting. 1479 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what had something to do with the 1480 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 4: seven lightning structs? 1481 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 3: Nine lives? 1482 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they say a cat has nine lives. 1483 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 3: Come over way, look at Luigi's first podcast, slipped all 1484 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:04,439 Speaker 3: the way. 1485 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 1: Through, and we've put him to sleep, and hopefully we've 1486 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 1: put plenty of you punners sep. 1487 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 4: Unless you're driving, you want to give a shout out 1488 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 4: to the board fans, the camera fans that were down 1489 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 4: there over the week. 1490 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks to everyone to come down. We had a 1491 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 1: little backstage pass off at local Chubs before the Manly 1492 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 1: Raiders games and there were some Raiders fans who come up. 1493 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:27,120 Speaker 1: Terrific blokes, probably a little intoxicated, potentially, I've. 1494 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 3: Heard they were singing like English supporters. They were right 1495 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 3: on the bit. Yeah. 1496 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,840 Speaker 1: Afterwards, when Jack left, there was some Raiders fans that 1497 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 1: were literally singing like EPL style and they kept singing, 1498 01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 1: Oh seem so sung as they were walking up to 1499 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 1: the It was pretty good. 1500 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:45,439 Speaker 2: Next podcast, backstage podcast, So one we do sort of individually. Again, 1501 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 2: we'll maybe a third way through the season or a 1502 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 2: month in the season talk about how sides or the 1503 01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 2: competitions forming. We should do every pick of song for 1504 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 2: every team. 1505 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 3: They should do it. Yeah, Leeds with mister Bright's side, Okay, 1506 01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 3: little respect. 1507 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,480 Speaker 1: And give us some give us some feedback here we're doing. 1508 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 1: We're going to try to drop a few of these 1509 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 1: more during the season where we just review rounds and 1510 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 1: like potentially after a few weeks so we can clump 1511 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 1: a few games together, do a little bit of season update, 1512 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 1: where we think the teams are going, how can they 1513 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 1: can improve and whatnot. Drop alike and follow If you 1514 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,480 Speaker 1: think you like it, let us know. If you never 1515 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,680 Speaker 1: want us to do this again, let us know and 1516 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 1: we to our Sorry, I thought you finished there in 1517 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 1: the hurry on. Can we give a shout out to 1518 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: our sponsor for the next couple of weeks. It's Yo Pro, 1519 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 1: So they're on board for the next couple of weeks, 1520 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,800 Speaker 1: and they're on on again during the finals period, So 1521 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:35,000 Speaker 1: shout out to them, and. 1522 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 4: Thanks for watching. 1523 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,520 Speaker 2: I'm getting my protein fixed from the opro. I just 1524 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 2: had one before coming back from work and just quickly coop. 1525 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,360 Speaker 2: As you said before, Jack, you thought you finished. Just 1526 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 2: because you're working the continuous call, doesn't he you doesn't 1527 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 2: mean you have to speak incessantly. You have to we'll 1528 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 2: speak continuously. 1529 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 1: Well, you've been to be tired today. I can see 1530 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,280 Speaker 1: you're like it. Every time we've been talking. I look 1531 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:56,680 Speaker 1: over and you're kind of like sleeping. So I feel 1532 01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 1: like I've had to dry that. 1533 01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 2: You know, it's really strange. I've been quite felt quite 1534 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 2: knacked this weekend. As I said, fleshinghin and go on 1535 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 2: the show. 1536 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1537 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 2: I just don't feel myself. I don't realize haven't drunk 1538 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 2: all weekend. 1539 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 4: I'm going to say your analysis been very good tonight. 1540 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah it's actually yeah, you've actually like you've been pretty 1541 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,840 Speaker 1: good tonight. Maybe you should go sober more often? 1542 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 3: Well, I tear what this? I mean this? 1543 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 2: Sometimes alcohol you do it to replace a hole in you. 1544 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:25,720 Speaker 2: I swear to God, Luigi's filled it. 1545 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,480 Speaker 1: Do you reckons filled the whole? 1546 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,720 Speaker 2: Any spear moment I get I ain't going anywhere, mate, 1547 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to stay in this house and just hang 1548 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 2: with my a little buddy. 1549 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 1: But it's more the fact that you drink at home too. 1550 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:38,120 Speaker 3: Trish Bard. 1551 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 2: Because the little fella is so small, we're gonna be 1552 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,440 Speaker 2: careful so there's no alcoholic consumption in the house. I 1553 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 2: support that. I'll do anything for this little fellow, and 1554 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 2: the son always wanted. 1555 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 1: He won't play first grade, tell you that much anyway. 1556 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:57,320 Speaker 2: Shout out to roy was his name, Sullivan Royal, Thanks boys, 1557 01:05:58,400 --> 01:05:59,040 Speaker 2: Thanks Jack Good. 1558 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm sleep in my room tonight.