1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Justice Christopher Bill got into the thick of it today 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: in his charge to the jury in the trial of 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: Aaron Patterson. He took a magnifying glass to the evidence 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: as he stepped through the testimony of more than a 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: dozen witnesses, summarized the lawyer's arguments, and even instructed the 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: jury to disregard two points made by the Crown. We'll 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: talk about this and more of what he said in 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: court today. I'm Brooke Greebert Craig, and this is the 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: Mushroom Cook. We have just finished day thirty eight of 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: Aaron Patterson's murder trial, and as always I'm joined by 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: my colleague, court reporter Laura PLOSSELLA Hey, Brook, how are you. 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: I'm good, Thanks, how. 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: Are you not bad? 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: Let's start now. The first thing that Justice Bill did 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: this morning was give the jurors an update on the 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: trial timeline. 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: He's provided them with a few updates this week, but 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: this one felt a lot more definitive. He told them 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: that his charge would continue for the rest of today, Thursday, 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: go into Tomorrow Friday, and then he would finally finish 21 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: on Monday. By that stage, there'll be two jurors. He'll 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: be balloted off. So right now, to remind our listeners, 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: there are fourteen jurors. After we lost one earlier in 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: the trial, two will be balloted off to leave us 25 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 2: with the magic number of twelve, and then they'll start 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: their deliberations. But once they're done for the day, they 27 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: won't go home. They'll be busted to local accommodation to 28 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: be sequestered, and then they'll return the next day to 29 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: the Latrobe Valley Law Courts to continue deliberating. 30 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: So this will all be taking place in week ten 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: of the trial. 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: Yes, and I really can't believe that at any stage 33 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: we thought this would actually just go for five weeks. 34 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: Crazy. So Justice Bill then returned to the topic of 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: incriminating conduct today. 36 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: He did so. We ran through the list yesterday of 37 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: all of the alleged incriminating conduct that is being put 38 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: forward by the prosecution. Justice Bill only got a chance 39 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: yesterday to make his way through one of those points, 40 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: and he spent the rest of the day making his 41 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: way through the list. This involves a lot of summary. 42 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 2: He is essentially summarizing up to seven weeks of evidence 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: and then turning to summaries of the prosecution and the 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: defense arguments. So today, when we make our way through 45 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 2: it ourselves, a lot of this will probably sound familiar 46 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: to our listeners. But this is Justice Beale really preparing 47 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: the jury for their deliberations. There is so much evidence 48 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: in this case that the judge's charge involves these summations 49 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: to make sure they're best placed when it is time 50 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: to commence those important deliberations. 51 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: So let's move to the first point. He began summarizing 52 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: the evidence relating to Aaron allegedly lying about using dried 53 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: mushrooms from an Asian grosser in the beef welling to 54 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: mill that she cooked on July twenty nine, twenty twenty three. 55 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: This was the point that Justice Beal spent the longest 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: on today. I think he finished with this topic just 57 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: before lunchtime, and the reason for this was he essentially 58 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: had to go through the evidence of almost a dozen witnesses. 59 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: There were a lot of people Erin spoke to in 60 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: the days after the lunch about the source of the mushrooms. 61 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 2: She was speaking to doctors at Lingatha Hospital. She was 62 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: speaking to Senior Public Health Advisor Sally ane Atkinson, and 63 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: speaking to child protection worker Katrina Cripps for the most part. 64 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: All of these witnesses testified that Aaron told them she 65 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: used button mushrooms from a local Woolworths and dried mushrooms 66 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: from an Asian grocer, but she could not remember the 67 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: exact location of that shop. Justice Bill also summarized the 68 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: evidence from Erin and how she realized in the days 69 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: after the lunch that mushrooms she had foraged and dehydrated 70 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: may have ended up in a container with the dried 71 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: mushrooms from the Asian grocer. This was the container, she 72 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: said she grabbed and tipped into the mushroom duct cell, 73 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: believing at the time that it only contained the dried 74 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: mushrooms from the Asian grocer. 75 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: Justice Build then outlined what the prosecution alleges. Here's what 76 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: he said. It's his words, but not his voice. 77 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: The prosecution argued. She sat on her hands, slow to 78 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: respond to the Department of Health, not responsive at times 79 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: giving evidence. She appeared to have a remarkable memory. She 80 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: could remember the twenty eighth of April twenty twenty three 81 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: was a Friday and not a Monday, but she couldn't 82 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: recall the shop or even the suburb. Beggar's belief. He 83 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: went on Most importantly, they argue, no one else got sick. 84 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 3: Monash Council had no complaints. The department had no reports 85 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: of people falling ill. And why would she dehydrate already 86 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: dried mushrooms. She told you the dehydrated mushrooms weren't as crisp, 87 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: so she whacked them into the dehydrator. They argued that 88 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: was a ridiculous lie to keep the possibility that an 89 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: Asian store was the source of death cap mushrooms. 90 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: Justice Bill then told the jury that the defense claims 91 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: the prosecution cherry picked their evidence. 92 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: It was argued the prosecution ignored the nuances of human behavior. 93 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: They argued, she was consistent with where the mushrooms came from. 94 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: She had many conversations with many people, He went on. 95 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 3: But things get recounted and it goes down the line. 96 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 3: Big details get minimized, forgotten, altered. There were approximately twenty 97 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,239 Speaker 3: one people who spoke to Aaron Patterson in twenty four hours, 98 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: and memory is not a video recording. Time plays a part. 99 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: Delays can affect recollection of events. None of the witnesses, 100 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: including Aaron Patterson, is immune. Recollection can be unreliable even 101 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: when a person is trying to be honest. 102 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: Justice Bill then moved on to summarize the evidence relating 103 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: to Aaron allegedly lying about feeding her children the leftovers 104 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: of the beef willing to mill with the mushrooms and 105 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: pastry scraped off. 106 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: Just like he did with the previous allegation. He took 107 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: the jury to the evidence of sir witnesses. Here it 108 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 2: was the evidence from Simon Patterson, Erin's estranged husband, and 109 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: her two children. He also brought them back to her 110 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: evidence as well. He said that Erin testified that she 111 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: scraped off the mushrooms and pastry from the six beef 112 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: wellington she prepared before serving the meat to her children 113 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: with mashed potato and beans. He also reminded the jury 114 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: that Erin said that the leftovers found in her outside 115 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: bin comprised the scraped off mushrooms and pastry as well 116 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: as the remainder of her beef wellington that she didn't 117 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: eat at the lunch. Justice Bial then took the jury 118 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: to the evidence of Erin's son, who told an investigator 119 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: that his mum said to him and his sister that 120 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: night that Don and Gale were unwell. He remembers his mum, 121 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: saying to him that she thought the cause of the 122 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 2: illness could have been the lunch, Justice Bill said. 123 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: The prosecution argued that, considering the children did not experience 124 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,559 Speaker 1: any symptoms, her story about feeding them the leftovers must 125 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: be a lie to cover her tracks. He also added 126 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: that the prosecution had questioned why Aaron would feed the 127 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: leftovers to her children when there was evidence to suggest 128 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: she knew by that stage on July thirty, that Don 129 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: and Gale were unwell. 130 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: It was at this stage that Justice Biele actually told 131 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: the jury to disregard two arguments made by Crown Prosecutor 132 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: Nnette Rodgers in her closing address. The first argument related 133 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: to the fact that doctor Rogers asserted that, even though 134 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: they were scraped off, the toxins from the death caps 135 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: would have penetrated the meat that Aaron served her children. 136 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: Doctor Rogers overstated what the evidence was, So you disregard 137 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: that argument that the amatoxins penetrated the meat. It's not 138 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: necessarily so, Justice Beale said. 139 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: The second argument related to the fact that doctor Rogers 140 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: asserted that the children would have experienced symptoms if they 141 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: had eaten the leftovers of the six beef Wellington, but 142 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: he told the jury no expert witness was asked whether 143 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: they would have expected the children to have experienced these 144 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: symptoms after eating the meat with the mushrooms and pastry 145 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: scraped off. 146 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: You have no expert evidence as to whether that would 147 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: be the case, and so I direct you to disregard 148 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: the argument. You would be speculating if you would go 149 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: down that path. 150 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: Justice Bill said. The defense argued that if Aaron knew 151 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: there were death caps in the meal, why would she 152 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: tell people leftovers existed at all? The defense said it 153 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: made no sense on the prosecution case that Aaron discarded 154 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: the meat of the six beef Wellington and put the 155 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: rest in her outside bin. 156 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: Why get rid of meat but keep the mushroom, paste 157 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 3: and pastry? Why put the pastry in the binners a 158 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: deliberate ruse. The simple explanation is the much more likely explanation, 159 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: She scraped off the paste and fed the meat to 160 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: her children. 161 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: Justice Bill then summarized the evidence relating to Aarin allegedly 162 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: refusing to obtain treatment for her children. 163 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: He took the jury to the evidence of witnesses from 164 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: lean Gatha Hospital, including doctor Veronica Foote and nurse Carlie Ashton, 165 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: as well as the evidence of Erin. Once again, he said, 166 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: the prosecution argued that Erin was reluctant to have her 167 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: children assessed because she knew that they had not consumed 168 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: death cat mushrooms. But on the other hand, he said, 169 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: the defense argued that Miss Ashton was wrong when she 170 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: said she found out that Erin's children had consumed the 171 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: leftovers on her first presentation to the hospital. He said. 172 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: The defense claimed that her memory of this was inconsistent 173 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: with the evidence of her colleagues, who said that they 174 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 2: found out that Erin's children had eaten the leftovers when 175 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 2: Erin returned to hospital later that morning. On July thirty one, 176 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: Justice Bill said the defense argued that when Erin returned 177 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: to hospital and was told that the toxins could have 178 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: penetrated the meat and that her children might be in danger, 179 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: that she made arrangements for them to be brought to 180 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 2: hospital straightaway. 181 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: Justice Bell moved on to some the evidence relating to 182 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: Erin discarding her dehydrator at Kunwarra Tip on August two. 183 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: It is worth noting that Erin has admitted to dumping 184 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: her dehydrata, so this isn't alleged conduct, but the defense 185 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: argued that it shouldn't be used as incriminating conduct. Justice 186 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: Bell reminded the jury that Aaron testified that she panicked 187 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: after she said Simon accused her of poisoning his parents 188 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: with the dehydrater. Eron told the jury she was scared 189 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: she would be blamed for making everyone sick, and so 190 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 2: she took her dehydrata to the tip you mentioned brook 191 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: and dumped it there. Justice Bill brought the jury back 192 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: to the four deceptions alleged by the prosecution in its 193 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: closing address, including the sustained cover up, which did involve 194 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: erin getting rid of the appliance, he said. The prosecution argued, though, 195 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: that the panic Erin said she was experiencing did not 196 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: explain the extensive and prolonged cover up she ended up 197 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: embarking on. 198 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: But on the other hand, Bill said, the defense argued 199 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: that if Aaron was planning a murder, she would have 200 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: disposed of the dehydrator much earlier. 201 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 3: She disposed of it when she did, Mister Mandy argued 202 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: because she panicked and people would wrongly think that she 203 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 3: poisoned them poisoned the lunch guests deliberately. 204 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: Justice Bill then turned to the evidence relating to Aarin 205 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: resetting Phone B multiple times, providing police phone B instead 206 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: of Phone A, and lying about her phone number ending 207 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: in eight three five. During her record of interview. 208 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: He reminded the jury that the prosecution alleged that Aaron 209 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 2: concealed Phone A, her usual phone, from police during a 210 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 2: search of her house, and instead handed over Phone B, 211 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: a dummy phone which she factory reset multiple times. He said, 212 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: the prosecution argued that Erin concealed Phone A because she 213 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: knew it would implicate her in the deliberate poisoning of 214 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: her guests, but alternatively, he said, the defense argued that 215 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 2: Aaron would not have gone to the trouble of setting 216 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: up Phone B as a dummy phone, since it would 217 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: have been much easier for her to factory reset Phone 218 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: A and simply discard it straight after the lunch. 219 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: Justice Bill added that Aaron testified that Phone A was 220 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: not seized during the search and was left on a 221 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: window sill untouched by police. She also testified that she 222 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: set up phone B because Phone A was damaged and 223 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: she wanted to change phone numbers after Simon accused her 224 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: of poisoning his parents. 225 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: Referring to Erin's testimony, Justice Bill said that the defense 226 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: argued that the prosecution was coming up with convoluted theories 227 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: for why there was an absence of evidence, and the 228 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: explanations that Erin provided were the most reasonable. 229 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: And with that, Justiceville told the jury he will continue 230 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: to summarize the remainder of the alleged incriminating conduct tomorrow. 231 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: And then he'll move on with the rest of his charge. 232 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: Thanks Laura, see you then 233 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: Four