WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 11 September

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<v Speaker 1>On scorns Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the winder Panety Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Daniki di Giorgio coming up tonight. Shocking anti Israel protests

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<v Speaker 3>erupt in Melbourne. Daniel Wilde would join us to discuss

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<v Speaker 3>the crazy scenes.

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<v Speaker 4>The WA Parliament has.

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<v Speaker 3>Passed an urgency motion which will allow anyone, including children,

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<v Speaker 3>to change their legal sex and allow men to access

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<v Speaker 3>female only spaces. Stephanie Bastian joins us shortly. Will dive

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<v Speaker 3>into all the best moments of the Trump Harris presidential

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<v Speaker 3>debate with Army Horowitz, including this hilarious moment.

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<v Speaker 5>Everything that she believed three years ago and four years

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<v Speaker 5>ago is out the window. She's going to make philosophy now.

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, I was going to send her a maga.

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<v Speaker 3>Hat Uk labor sparks outrage over their controversial funding cuts

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<v Speaker 3>that could lead the elderly without heating during winter grimes

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<v Speaker 3>on that later in the hour and of course left

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<v Speaker 3>he's a losing it, including more white dudes for Karmela.

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<v Speaker 4>There lunacy nos no bounds.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, I'm going to vote for Kamala Harris. She could

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<v Speaker 6>run over a child live on TV. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 6>vote for Kamala Harris. I'm never going to vote for Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Joining me now is Deputy executive director of the Institute

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<v Speaker 3>of Public Affairs, Daniel Wilde. Daniel, thank you very much

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<v Speaker 3>for joining us. Let's start with the out of control

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<v Speaker 3>lunacy that unfolded on the streets of Melbourne today when

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<v Speaker 3>anti war and anti Israel idiot activists clashed with police.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's a look, Daniel, this is absolutely disgraceful. The protesters

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<v Speaker 3>threw paint, they threw horsepoo at the cops, they threw

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<v Speaker 3>a manure at the horses. They were totally out of control.

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<v Speaker 3>What do they seriously think they are going to achieve here?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's a good question, Denika. There's a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, everybody has a right to protest, and everyone

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<v Speaker 7>has the right to freedom of speech.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fundamental to.

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<v Speaker 7>Our way of life, whether you agree or disagree with

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<v Speaker 7>the particulars of what these people are talking about. But

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<v Speaker 7>at the same time, the community also has the right

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<v Speaker 7>to attend events peacefully, and clearly that was not the

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<v Speaker 7>intent of these protesters, many of whom were, as you've

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<v Speaker 7>pointed out, engaging in violent acts and seeking to intimidate

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<v Speaker 7>those who were attending this very important function held in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 7>The police in Victoria were given special powers with which

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<v Speaker 7>to deal with these protesters, and it's important that those

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<v Speaker 7>powers are used in a balanced way, not overdone. It

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<v Speaker 7>looks like the police have done the right thing on

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<v Speaker 7>this occasion. The other point that I'd make is I've

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<v Speaker 7>seen some people criticizing the police for brutality, but where

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<v Speaker 7>were these people during the COVID lockdowns, where police at

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<v Speaker 7>the time I were dealing in a very brutal way

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<v Speaker 7>with protesters who were saying who had a different opinion

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<v Speaker 7>to what the government had at the time. So I

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<v Speaker 7>think the point here is one to have equal policing

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<v Speaker 7>and an equal set of rules applied to everybody. And

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<v Speaker 7>I think on this occasion the police look to have

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<v Speaker 7>got it right, at least based on what I've seen

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<v Speaker 7>so far.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh look, absolutely, I mean the scenes we saw today

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<v Speaker 3>certainly warranted it, and I do agree with you. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you have a right to protest in this country, but

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<v Speaker 3>it clearly was not peaceful today. There Now, youth crime

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<v Speaker 3>is out of control across the country, but you figures

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<v Speaker 3>released today by the Crime Statistics Agency reveal just how

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<v Speaker 3>frightening the situation is. In Victoria, teen criminals are breaking

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<v Speaker 3>into ten times more homes than when Labour came to power,

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<v Speaker 3>and the number of residential aggravated burglaries a committed by

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<v Speaker 3>offenders age ten to seventeen has almost surged one thousand

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<v Speaker 3>percent in the last financial year. Daniel, it means that

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<v Speaker 3>teens are now breaking into a home on average three

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<v Speaker 3>times a day. That's shocking. How has it gotten this point, Well.

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<v Speaker 7>It's gone to this point because of illediate justice system.

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<v Speaker 7>When it comes to violent crime. You know, we know

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<v Speaker 7>that those who commit violent crime need to be dealt

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<v Speaker 7>with immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>There needs to be immediate.

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<v Speaker 7>Consequences for these actions. State governments haven't helped because in

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<v Speaker 7>the main they have been advocating for raising the age

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<v Speaker 7>of criminal responsibility and the effect of that is to

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<v Speaker 7>encourage gain behavior where adults end up getting children to

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<v Speaker 7>commit crimes starting that the children can get off scot free.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a very bad system.

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<v Speaker 7>One of the issues with our criminal justice system more

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<v Speaker 7>broadly is there's been too much of a focus on

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<v Speaker 7>nonviolent criminals and not enough focus on violent criminals. Those

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<v Speaker 7>who commit violent crimes and our threat to the community

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<v Speaker 7>need to be dealt with in a swift fashion and

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<v Speaker 7>that just hasn't been happening.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and it hasn't been happening around the country. It's

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<v Speaker 3>been absolutely shocking and no wonder a number of residents

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<v Speaker 3>are terrified. Look, let's now talk about Big Australia. The

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<v Speaker 3>Bureau of Statistics has confirmed that Australians are now getting

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<v Speaker 3>poorer faster, due in large part to the record rate

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<v Speaker 3>of migration we've seen, particularly since Labor came into power. Now, Daniel,

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<v Speaker 3>the IPA has researched this extensively.

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<v Speaker 1>What have you found, Well, thanks, Anika.

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<v Speaker 7>What we've found is that we are experiencing the largest

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<v Speaker 7>search to our population in our nation's history, and that

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<v Speaker 7>it hasn't been planned for and as a result, Australians

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<v Speaker 7>are getting poorer. As you rightly say, there's been six

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<v Speaker 7>consecutive quarters of negative per capita economic growth, which is

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<v Speaker 7>the longest declient to living standards on record, and those

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<v Speaker 7>records go back to the early nineteen seventies. So this

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<v Speaker 7>economy is worse than the economy that Whitlam presided over.

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<v Speaker 1>For the living standards of mainstream Australians.

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<v Speaker 7>And the reason this is happening is there's been no

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<v Speaker 7>planning in place and we've got immense pressure on our

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<v Speaker 7>social services, our schools, our roads, our hospitals and of

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<v Speaker 7>course our housing. We know that there is an acute

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<v Speaker 7>housing shortage and rental affordability has plummeted along with it.

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<v Speaker 7>So look, as a nation, we want to be a

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<v Speaker 7>welcoming nation. We want to be a tolerant nation, and

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<v Speaker 7>who can blame migrants for wanting to come to our

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<v Speaker 7>great country for a better future and a better way

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<v Speaker 7>of life. But the current size of the program is

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<v Speaker 7>simply too big for our nation to absorb. And that's

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<v Speaker 7>why a large and growing majority of Australians are saying

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<v Speaker 7>to the government this intake must be reduced, and it

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<v Speaker 7>must be reduced fast.

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<v Speaker 3>Look absolutely, because in the end, nobody ever voted for

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<v Speaker 3>a big Australia, yet here we are, and it's putting

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of pressure on those particularly wanting to get

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<v Speaker 3>into the housing market or the rental crisis. So no

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<v Speaker 3>really good observation there. Let's talk about this gold mine saga.

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<v Speaker 3>It gets murkier and murkier For Tanya Plipisec of course,

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<v Speaker 3>she blocked that gold mine in New South Wales for

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<v Speaker 3>Aboriginal cultural heritage reasons.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet I can't provide the evidence.

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<v Speaker 3>To support the decision because of Aboriginal cultural heritage reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>Now questions have been raised over a newspaper article from

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen twelve which informed the establishment of an indigenous burial

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<v Speaker 3>site within the area of that proposed gold mine. Now

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel experts are warning not to take that newspaper article

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<v Speaker 3>at face value. There is no evidence to support it,

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<v Speaker 3>they say, So it just gets more and more embarrassing

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<v Speaker 3>for the minister.

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<v Speaker 7>Well it does, and ever since day one, Tanya Plibasek

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<v Speaker 7>has not been upfront with the Australian people for her

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<v Speaker 7>extraordinary decision to not allow this gold mine to go ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>As the days go by, it's increasingly apparent that the

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<v Speaker 7>can of bureaucracy is at war with Australia's resources sector.

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<v Speaker 7>This gold mine is just the latest example. But any

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<v Speaker 7>major project that's trying to get up these days is

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<v Speaker 7>either going to be disrupted by partially government funded green

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<v Speaker 7>activists like the Environmental Defender's Office, or they're going to

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<v Speaker 7>experience tremendous delays in the approvals process. Which is designed

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<v Speaker 7>to grind them to a halt because they know if

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<v Speaker 7>they hold these projects up for long enough, the economy

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<v Speaker 7>will turn against the business case and ultimately these projects

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<v Speaker 7>won't go ahead. There's also a sovereign risk where if

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<v Speaker 7>you're an investor, and you could be investing in a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of countries around the world when it comes to

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<v Speaker 7>resources sector projects, you look at these issues and you say, well,

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<v Speaker 7>I might avoid Australia because there's this risk to which

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<v Speaker 7>at a premium is attached on your investment. So you

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<v Speaker 7>know there's very wide ranging economic and social implications of this.

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<v Speaker 7>And as you say, the Environment Minister, she hasn't been

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<v Speaker 7>transparent at all with the Australian people and there's been

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<v Speaker 7>conflicting information.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for her to tell us the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, basically says to investors and business that we're closed.

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<v Speaker 3>We're closed. We're not open. We absolutely closed your spot on. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>a new report has found in order to meet its

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<v Speaker 3>ambitious five year housing target, the New South Wales government

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<v Speaker 3>needs to reprioritize and put major projects like the Metro,

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<v Speaker 3>schools and hospitals on hold. Daniel. The housing crisis, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>is not just conducive to New South Wales. It's everywhere,

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<v Speaker 3>but this certainly is a very ominous warning.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a concerning warning.

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<v Speaker 7>We were just talking about migration and the pressure that

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<v Speaker 7>that's placing on demand and this is one of the

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<v Speaker 7>consequences that there's only so much money and ultimately governments

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<v Speaker 7>have to choose what it is that they're going to finance.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 7>I know the Premiere Chris Minz has rejected this suggestion

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<v Speaker 7>and said they're going to go ahead with all of

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<v Speaker 7>the projects that's currently slated. But to take a broader

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<v Speaker 7>view of this, we've got a dysfunctional federation because the

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<v Speaker 7>federal government is in charge of the migration intake, which

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<v Speaker 7>is increasing demand, but state governments are in charge of

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<v Speaker 7>the supply site in terms of houses and schools and

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<v Speaker 7>roads and other social services. I don't know what National

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<v Speaker 7>Cabinet is doing if they're not talking about this. The

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<v Speaker 7>left hand's not talking to the right hand, and Australias

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<v Speaker 7>look at and they don't understand why we have this problem.

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<v Speaker 7>If you're going to bring in x many migrants, then

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<v Speaker 7>you're going to have to have x many houses.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very simple.

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<v Speaker 7>So there's clearly been a failure of foresight and coordination

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<v Speaker 7>between labor governments. I mean it's not as if there's

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<v Speaker 7>a political device. It's wall to all labor other than

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<v Speaker 7>in the Northern Territory in Tasmania. So I think Australians

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<v Speaker 7>look at this and they just can't understand why we

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<v Speaker 7>have these infrastructure problems.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it makes sense. Now look before we let you go,

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<v Speaker 3>this is fun. A private crew has set out on

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<v Speaker 3>an orbital expedition as they prepare for the first ever

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<v Speaker 3>space walk by non professional astronauts. Daniel, this will be

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<v Speaker 3>quite a feat. If successful, it'll be the first ever

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<v Speaker 3>spacewalk by civilians.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's very exciting.

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<v Speaker 7>I think this shows the power of vision, and of

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<v Speaker 7>entrepreneurship and of ambition. So I think this has the

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<v Speaker 7>capacity to bring a lot of people together with excitement.

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<v Speaker 1>We're pretty divided a lot of the time.

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<v Speaker 7>So I hope this is a success and I'm very

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<v Speaker 7>excited to see what might come of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, me too, Fingers crossed, Daniel Wilde, thanks for joining us. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>this is very concerning. WA Parliament has used its numbers

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<v Speaker 3>to pass an urgency motion, effectively acting any scrutiny of

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<v Speaker 3>its self id bill. What does that mean? Well, it

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<v Speaker 3>means anyone will be able to change their legal sex,

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<v Speaker 3>including children, and permit men to access female only spaces,

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<v Speaker 3>sports and services. Joining me now is Stephanie Bastian from

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<v Speaker 3>Women's Forum Australia. Stephanie, good to see you, Thanks for

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<v Speaker 3>joining us. How dangerous is this?

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<v Speaker 4>What sort of a precedent is it setting?

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<v Speaker 8>Good evening, Danika. These laws are very concerning because, of

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<v Speaker 8>course it makes it easier for men in particular to

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<v Speaker 8>change their gender on their legal documents to access women

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<v Speaker 8>sports spaces and services. It also allows children to do

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<v Speaker 8>so as well. Now, obviously there are security issues, particularly

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<v Speaker 8>in terms of women and the privacy in there in

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<v Speaker 8>things like change rooms, domestic violence shelters and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course there are other concerns.

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<v Speaker 8>Such as the healthcare system which is a risk to

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<v Speaker 8>persons who identifies transgender as well where they may be

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<v Speaker 8>mis diagnosed or mistreated. So it's very concerning. The WA

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<v Speaker 8>government has rammed this through without consultation. Last month they

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<v Speaker 8>vetoed a parliamentary inquiry. It seems that they just don't

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<v Speaker 8>want to have this bill scrutinized. And of course when

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<v Speaker 8>these laws pass, it makes it a lot easier to

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<v Speaker 8>undo the damage that's done by them. It also sets

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<v Speaker 8>a legal precedent that we're seeing being weaponized around the

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<v Speaker 8>country that is in particular being used against women.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a range of issues with this bill.

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<v Speaker 8>It's scremely shameful and I just hope that should there

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<v Speaker 8>be a change of government at the next election, the

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<v Speaker 8>Liberals undo this.

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<v Speaker 3>Look absolutely. And the other point to make is, Stephanie,

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<v Speaker 3>what does this mean for parents? Because if your child

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<v Speaker 3>says I'm going to change my gender, legally they're allowed to,

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<v Speaker 3>right Is that the case here?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely, So the law allows miners to change their identity

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<v Speaker 8>on their legal documents, and the same issues applied, particularly

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<v Speaker 8>in terms of health. The parents have no say, they

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<v Speaker 8>can't get any support for their child if they are

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<v Speaker 8>going through things.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very concerning. Yeah, it is extremely concerning. Now I

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<v Speaker 3>want to go to this case in the UK because

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<v Speaker 3>a surrogate mother in London has one access to her

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<v Speaker 3>biological son in what is been touted as a landmark

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<v Speaker 3>case after her child's same sex parents claimed it was

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<v Speaker 3>homophobic for her to be involved in their motherless family

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<v Speaker 3>with quote no vacancy for a woman, Stephanie, she is

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<v Speaker 3>the genetic mother. How is that homophobic? It's not.

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<v Speaker 8>And one of the key point into this case is

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<v Speaker 8>at no point was the best interests.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the child prioritized.

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<v Speaker 8>It was all about the feelings and desires of these

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<v Speaker 8>two commissioning parents. At the end of the day, the

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<v Speaker 8>biological mother is is not dispensable. Her role is important,

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<v Speaker 8>and to remove that child from the mother creates a

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<v Speaker 8>primal womb that has lifelong ramifications, including trust issues, anxiety, depression.

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<v Speaker 8>There's a range of issues that are linked that are

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<v Speaker 8>just not acknowledged when it comes to surrogacy. And the

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<v Speaker 8>fact that they breached their agreement with her in order

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<v Speaker 8>to try and shut her out of that child's life

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<v Speaker 8>is just very concerning. But I'm so pleased that the

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<v Speaker 8>law upheld her right to be involved in child's that

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<v Speaker 8>child's life, and that the law saw fit to prioritize

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<v Speaker 8>the interests of the child over the wishes of the parents.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, a really really interesting case, but you are

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<v Speaker 3>spot on. I mean, it is her right as the

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<v Speaker 3>genetic mother. Now, look, we know that Victorian woman is

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<v Speaker 3>facing legal action for calling trans breastfeeding experimental and a

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<v Speaker 3>dangerous fetage fetish rather.

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<v Speaker 4>But now to add to.

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<v Speaker 3>This, the Royal Women's Hospital in Melbourne is including men

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<v Speaker 3>in its breastfeeding program. Stephanie, this just seems like complete lunacy.

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<v Speaker 3>What evidence is there to support that drug induced lactation

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<v Speaker 3>is indeed safe for infants.

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<v Speaker 8>There seems to be very little evidence, if any at all.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's not just the drugs that are being used

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<v Speaker 8>to induce the lactation, it's the plethora of hormones and

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<v Speaker 8>drugs these men are taking to present as women. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>there's no safety data on this. Once again, the feelings

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<v Speaker 8>of men are being prioritized at the expense of the

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<v Speaker 8>safety and nutrition of the baby. It's wrong and it

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<v Speaker 8>just shows the fact that the Royal Women's Hospital doing

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<v Speaker 8>this just how far this gender ideology is entrenched in

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<v Speaker 8>our healthcare system.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an enormous breach of trust.

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<v Speaker 8>And I know, as a mother and as a woman,

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<v Speaker 8>I would be avoiding any health care system, any healthcare

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<v Speaker 8>service like the Women's like the Royal Children's that are

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<v Speaker 8>promoting these practices because there's no scientific basis. In fact,

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<v Speaker 8>the science out there is to the contrary a mother's

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<v Speaker 8>body is biological. The way that she produces milk is hormonal,

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<v Speaker 8>and it is designed to feed the baby into meat

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<v Speaker 8>its needs at the time a milk changes men.

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<v Speaker 3>Biological men can't.

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<v Speaker 8>Do that, and there's no evidence that even the liquid

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<v Speaker 8>that they do supply is able is enough to sustain

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<v Speaker 8>the infant in the first place. I think that this

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<v Speaker 8>is just further proof that we need an investigation into

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<v Speaker 8>all these practices and just how captured these healthcare systems are.

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<v Speaker 3>I absolutely agree with you there needs to be an

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<v Speaker 3>investigation because you know, it could potentially be very dang

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<v Speaker 3>juris for an infant, and we need to get those

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<v Speaker 3>facts pretty quickly. Stephanie Bastian, great to be with you,

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for joining us. Well still to come, Lefties Losing

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<v Speaker 3>It plus Donald Trump and Kamala Harris go head to

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<v Speaker 3>head during their presidential debate. Army Horowitz will join me

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<v Speaker 3>next to one. Pack it all. Now it is time

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<v Speaker 3>for Lefties Losing It. We will get to the presidential

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<v Speaker 3>debate lunacy in just a second, but first let's start

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<v Speaker 3>with the Swifties, or should I say the deranged and

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<v Speaker 3>demented sect of the Taylor swift Brigade who are losing

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<v Speaker 3>their minds over the singer being pictured with the wife

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<v Speaker 3>of an NFL player, Brittany Mahomes. Why did she kill someone?

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<v Speaker 3>Did she, I don't know, commit a crime? Did she

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<v Speaker 3>hurt someone? Oh no, no, no, it's because she don

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<v Speaker 3>you wait for it, liked then unliked an Instagram post

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<v Speaker 3>by Donald Trump? But how could she possibly unconfirmed but

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<v Speaker 3>maybe like Donald Trump? But maybe not? And how could

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<v Speaker 3>Taylor like this girl? Well? C the full blown lefty

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<v Speaker 3>meltdown of Trump derangement syndrome proportions.

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<v Speaker 9>Taylor Swift is even worse because she surrounds herself with

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<v Speaker 9>misogynistic Trump supporting people like she is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 9>the raw raw advocate for feminism, to be this like

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<v Speaker 9>icon in the pop space, when these are the people

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<v Speaker 9>that she associates herself with. Birds of a feather flock together.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh how dared Taylor Swift? She can't possibly be an

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<v Speaker 3>ally then, of the LGBTQ community if she associated with

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<v Speaker 3>someone who liked and unliked a Donald Trump Instagram post.

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<v Speaker 10>I have always felt that you need to Calm Down

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<v Speaker 10>is a performative LGBTQ song, And honestly, here is a

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<v Speaker 10>proof because if she was an ally, you know, an ally,

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<v Speaker 10>she would not be hanging around a Trump supporter.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just the very.

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<v Speaker 3>Plain and symbol.

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<v Speaker 5>Anybody who is not a straight white Swifty is.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to have some thoughts about this because Trump and

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<v Speaker 3>everyone who supports the hym are literally coming for our next,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly trans people and people of color, poor people like

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<v Speaker 3>the list goes on. No, she's definitely not an ally.

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<v Speaker 3>She must of course be a homophobe. Then can Taylor

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<v Speaker 3>Swifty friends of Brittany Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 9>Sure, but then we are going to have to speculate.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, who do you allow in your life?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you going to allow homophobes?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>And uh, we should speculate that you have no life.

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<v Speaker 3>And let's not forget these are the lefties who pride

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<v Speaker 3>themselves on so called tolerance and speaking of Trump derangement,

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<v Speaker 3>it really affects the brain in certain ways for the

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<v Speaker 3>white dudes of Kamala.

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<v Speaker 6>Cru Look, I'm going to vote for Kamala Harris. She

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<v Speaker 6>could run over a child live on TV. I'm going

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<v Speaker 6>to vote for Kamala Harris. I'm never going to vote

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<v Speaker 6>for Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, then that is truly normal, very saying that very

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<v Speaker 3>normal stuff, and in the same breath, that same lefty

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<v Speaker 3>diverts and takes us on a different journey.

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<v Speaker 6>But the fact is, even though I think she'll make

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<v Speaker 6>a good president, she's not a good candidate. If you

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<v Speaker 6>remember from when she ran before, she tends to get

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<v Speaker 6>real irritated with stuff she doesn't like. She's not real

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<v Speaker 6>fast on her feet. Maybe she's better now, but live

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<v Speaker 6>events things like that. I don't know, man, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>think she's going to do so well in the debate.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't keep up. I guess just your average Karmala voter.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is what happens when Democrats, as we do,

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<v Speaker 3>forget their auto Q.

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<v Speaker 4>One minute, it's one thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Next you don't know where that thought bubble will lead to.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an illness. And Karmala certainly has a unique supporter base.

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<v Speaker 12>Do you oh, how interesting?

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<v Speaker 7>Come?

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<v Speaker 12>Tell me right?

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<v Speaker 5>So viz.

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<v Speaker 2>Immediately I'm busy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I wonder what will happen when she grows old

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<v Speaker 3>with that one. And now to the Haitian migrant situation

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<v Speaker 3>and claims of immigrants killing and eating pets and park

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<v Speaker 3>animals in Ohio, and the Dems are in a meltdown

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<v Speaker 3>over the pets for Trump explosion on social media AI

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<v Speaker 3>images like this one protect our Ducks and Kittens in Ohio?

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<v Speaker 3>And how about this one from Donald Trump Junior save

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<v Speaker 3>our Pets? And I've got to say, the goods just

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<v Speaker 3>keep on coming, aren't they just classic? Yet the poor

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<v Speaker 3>old sad dems with no sense of humor who are

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<v Speaker 3>devoid of joy, I'm not happy.

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<v Speaker 12>What in the hell is this? The chairman tweets protect

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<v Speaker 12>our ducks and kittens in a Ohio because he goes

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<v Speaker 12>some down, goes down some crazy rabbit hole, completely debunked

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<v Speaker 12>that aliens are eating pets. My god, are you okay,

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<v Speaker 12>mister chairman? Because last year, for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 12>you tweeted and promoted Kanye West as he was calling

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<v Speaker 12>for genocide against the Jews, and you kept it up.

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<v Speaker 12>And now when we have victims coming here, you're tweeting

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<v Speaker 12>this nonsense. I don't know why you would do this.

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<v Speaker 12>I hope you're okay.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta laugh. But all you can say is if

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<v Speaker 3>you like your pets or your catsave it or your

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<v Speaker 3>ducks like we've seen, particularly in the Ohio pond, well.

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<v Speaker 4>There's only one choice come November.

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<v Speaker 3>Joining me now is filmmaker and journalist Army Horowitz. Amy,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you so much for joining us. Let's start with

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<v Speaker 3>the highlights of the presidential debate, including Trump's claim that

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<v Speaker 3>migrants are rating hats and dogs in Springfield.

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<v Speaker 5>They're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're

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<v Speaker 5>eating the cats, they're eating they're eating the pets of

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<v Speaker 5>the people that live there.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he nailed Kamala Harris the borders are challenging

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<v Speaker 3>her on Live to TV to go to the White House,

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<v Speaker 3>wake Joe Biden up and sign a bill to close

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<v Speaker 3>the border down.

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<v Speaker 5>Now do you know that crime in Venezuela and crime

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<v Speaker 5>in countries all over the world is way down. You

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<v Speaker 5>know why because they've taken their criminals off the street

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<v Speaker 5>and they've given them to her to put into our country.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd like to see her go down to Washington, DC

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<v Speaker 5>during this debate, because we're wasting a lot of time,

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<v Speaker 5>sign a bill to close up the border, because they

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<v Speaker 5>have the right to do it. The president of the

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<v Speaker 5>United States. You'll get them out of bed. You'll wake

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<v Speaker 5>them up at four o'clock in the afternoon. You'll say,

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<v Speaker 5>come on, come on down to the office. Let's sign

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<v Speaker 5>a bill.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Kamala Harris has no legs to stand on

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to her border failures. Did Trump show

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<v Speaker 3>her up today? What's your take?

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah? I think that this.

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<v Speaker 14>If I had a scorecard, I would say she had

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<v Speaker 14>a slight edge overall on this, but it was pretty close.

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<v Speaker 13>The problem is that she needed a knockout blow because

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<v Speaker 13>we're trending.

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<v Speaker 14>The polls are trending against her now that the sugar

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<v Speaker 14>high of her replacing Biden is over and after the DNC,

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<v Speaker 14>and she did not score that that knockout punch. Look,

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<v Speaker 14>if you look at the New York Times poll that

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<v Speaker 14>came out, this is very very bad news for her

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<v Speaker 14>campaign and has her up one among lately voters, two

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<v Speaker 14>among all voters. And as how we all know foles

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<v Speaker 14>seem to under sample Trump voters. But if you look

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<v Speaker 14>at the cross tabs, they're even worse for her.

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<v Speaker 13>This is an election of change.

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<v Speaker 14>People majority of people want change, and actually a clear

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<v Speaker 14>majority view Trump as the agent of change more than

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<v Speaker 14>Kamala Harris. And if they talked to the voters and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 14>who do you think will do better on the particular

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<v Speaker 14>issue that you care about the most about exemplifying or

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<v Speaker 14>specifying particular issue. Again, Trump wins a clear majority over

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<v Speaker 14>Kamala Harris, and he's up sixteen percent of her in

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<v Speaker 14>the economy, which is the number one issue across voters.

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<v Speaker 13>So she really needed a knockout blow. She didn't get it.

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<v Speaker 14>Look, this is a typical Trump debate. He's the same

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<v Speaker 14>tip debate he had before.

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<v Speaker 13>It was kind of rambling.

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<v Speaker 14>A little unfocused, but there's so much ammunition against Biden

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<v Speaker 14>Harris that some of the stuff that he was shooting

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<v Speaker 14>the gatling gun ended up hitting and sticking. The difference

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<v Speaker 14>this time was that he didn't have an opponent who

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<v Speaker 14>came on stage, poured gas lino over himself, let himself

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<v Speaker 14>on fire.

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<v Speaker 13>She didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 14>In fact, he kind of put himself a little bit

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<v Speaker 14>of a disadvantage by continuously talking about how dumb she is,

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<v Speaker 14>how terrible she is, So people are expecting that. Usually

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<v Speaker 14>you try to pump up the person you're about the debate.

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<v Speaker 14>He didn't do that, did the opposite and did not

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<v Speaker 14>serve him well. And in the first five minutes he

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<v Speaker 14>had a chance for a real clean body blow. When

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<v Speaker 14>she was asked, are you are are Americans better off now?

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<v Speaker 14>They were four years ago. She did not answer the question,

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<v Speaker 14>and when it came back to Trump, he should have

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<v Speaker 14>pointed out she didn't answer the question because the answer

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<v Speaker 14>is obviously no. He took a swing and a miss

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<v Speaker 14>on that. I thought it was a huge opportunity missed.

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<v Speaker 14>But again, he was also debating the moderators who who

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<v Speaker 14>simply were clearly on her side. The biggest issue was

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<v Speaker 14>they kept fact checking him in real time, but never

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<v Speaker 14>fact check hers when she clearly exaggerated or out right

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<v Speaker 14>live and I think that was a problem that all

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<v Speaker 14>Republicans have when it comes to debates, and this particular

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<v Speaker 14>one as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk. I want to talk more about that, because

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<v Speaker 3>it felt as though the moderators spent an enormous amount

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<v Speaker 3>of time, as you said, fact checking Donald Trump, but

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<v Speaker 3>not doing the same with Kamala Harris. Have a look

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<v Speaker 3>at this.

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<v Speaker 11>You bring up Springfield, Ohio, and ABCDS did reach out

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<v Speaker 11>to the city manager there. He told us there had

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<v Speaker 11>been no credible reports of President Trump. As you know,

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<v Speaker 11>the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down

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<v Speaker 11>in this country. But you have said quote you lost

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<v Speaker 11>by a whisker that you quote didn't quite make it

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 11>that you came up a little bit short. You did

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<v Speaker 11>bring up something you said she went to negotiate with

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<v Speaker 11>Vladimir Putin. Vice President Harris, have you ever met Vladimir Putin?

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<v Speaker 3>How biased army was this debate by ABC News? In

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<v Speaker 3>your view, it felt to me as though it was

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<v Speaker 3>very much so three against one.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 12>It was not great.

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<v Speaker 14>Look, it wasn't the most egregious of all of all

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<v Speaker 14>the people I've seen moderate debates, But it wasn't good.

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<v Speaker 14>And I think the single biggest issue in my view

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<v Speaker 14>was the fact that they were fact checking him.

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<v Speaker 13>And by the way, rightly.

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<v Speaker 14>So I'm not saying that fact that the moderate should

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<v Speaker 14>not fact check. I think they should. I think I

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<v Speaker 14>don't like it when either side exaggerates or says lies.

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<v Speaker 13>Both sides did it.

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<v Speaker 14>There are a number of times are up screaming at

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<v Speaker 14>the screen saying, guys, this is so obviously wrong. And

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<v Speaker 14>by the way, one of the most one of the

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<v Speaker 14>biggest ones the fact that she kept saying Trump abortion band,

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<v Speaker 14>trump abortion ban. Wasn't he didn't, There's no Trump abortion

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<v Speaker 14>band or the worst of all for me is Charleston.

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<v Speaker 14>That's one of the biggest lies of all time that

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<v Speaker 14>she continued this lie of he was referring to the

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<v Speaker 14>neo Nazis as good people on both sides.

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<v Speaker 13>I think go one and on and on, and I

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<v Speaker 13>think that was the worst of it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm going to say as well, ABC changed its

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<v Speaker 3>tune midway through, allowing Kamla to also interrupt Trump, so

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<v Speaker 3>it left him to roll out this comment.

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<v Speaker 5>She was big on defund the police in Minnesota. She

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<v Speaker 5>went out, I'm talking now, do you know mind?

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<v Speaker 4>Please?

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<v Speaker 5>Does that sound familiar?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, that was a reference to when she debated

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Pence in the VP debate and she said I

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<v Speaker 3>am speaking when he interrupted her.

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<v Speaker 15>Mister Vice President, I'm speaking. I'm speaking, Yes, a vice president,

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 15>I'm speaking. I'm speaking. Okay, if you don't mind letting

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 15>me finish, we can then have a conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, please, okay.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, uh, Kamala Harris, I'm a victim here, I'm a woman.

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 13>Hear me a roar. I'm a victim. Look. I didn't

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 13>like it when she did it. It didn't. It didn't.

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<v Speaker 14>It doesn't come across as good. And I think when

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<v Speaker 14>Trump did it also doesn't come across as as as good.

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 14>I don't think I think either one. She's kind of

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<v Speaker 14>let it go. It was odd that her micro was on,

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 14>but yeah, I don't think it helps anybody when they

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<v Speaker 14>kind of play that role saying, oh, please let me speak,

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 14>let me speak. I don't, I said, don't play well

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<v Speaker 14>on TV.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it looked fair enough.

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<v Speaker 3>And there was also a funny moment where Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 3>said this because as we know, Kamala has been not

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<v Speaker 3>copying some of his policies, the ways of doing things.

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<v Speaker 5>Everything that she believed three years ago and four years

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<v Speaker 5>years ago is out the window. She's going to my

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<v Speaker 5>philosophy now. In fact, I was going to send her

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 5>a Maga hat. She's gone to my philosophy. But if

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 5>she ever got elected, she changed it and it will

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<v Speaker 5>be the end of our country.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was hilarious. I'd like to see Kamlay

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<v Speaker 3>in a Maga hat. But we know that she's really

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 3>struggled to articulate her own policies or lack thereof. Did

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 3>she explain her policies at all better in this debate?

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<v Speaker 14>No, no, not at all. I watched the debate twice.

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<v Speaker 14>It's by the way, I recommend nobody do. And in

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<v Speaker 14>the second time through for a time of life. Second time,

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 14>I was going through it and I was looking for

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<v Speaker 14>where the policies might be.

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<v Speaker 13>Didn't see them.

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 14>Look, I mean, she did actually populate her website with

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 14>a few paragraphs of policy, but as we as was

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 14>actually kind of proven, she just cut and literally cut

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<v Speaker 14>and paste Biden's policies onto her policy page.

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<v Speaker 13>So I guess we really want to her policies.

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<v Speaker 14>You just have to look at the last four years

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<v Speaker 14>of the Biden Harris presidency and I think you'll get

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 14>a sense of what her policies are. But I think, look,

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 14>the truth is, actually she will be more radical. One

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<v Speaker 14>thing Trump said that was right was yes, she did

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 14>change her tune on fracking, but she never said when she.

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 13>Said I changed in twenty twenty, what.

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<v Speaker 14>She was referring to is she was essentially vocalizing the

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<v Speaker 14>policy of her boss, the eventual president, Joe Biden.

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 13>She never said I believe this. She kept referring to.

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<v Speaker 14>What Joe Biden wanted to do, and in fact he

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<v Speaker 14>did do. And I think Trump was right when he said,

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<v Speaker 14>if she becomes president in Pennsylvania this debate was happening,

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<v Speaker 14>she will attempt to ban fracking day one.

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<v Speaker 13>I don't have any question about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she was yo yoing on that one, and you're right,

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 3>she likes to copy and paste things too.

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 4>Now, Donald Trump asked.

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 3>A key question that really has been on everyone's mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Where on earth is the president?

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<v Speaker 5>We're playing with World War three and we have a

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<v Speaker 5>president that we don't even know if he's Where is

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 5>our president? We don't even know if he's a president.

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 5>And just a clarity, he threw him out of a

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<v Speaker 5>campaign like a dog.

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<v Speaker 13>We don't even know is he a president?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there were reports this week that Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 3>has been on holiday for forty percent of his presidency,

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 3>and Trump really did ask a legitimate question there Where

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 3>on earth is the president?

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<v Speaker 13>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 14>It depends where doctor Joe Biden is. Where doctor Joe

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<v Speaker 14>Biden is, That's where the president is. Look, it's it's

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<v Speaker 14>it's so interesting that they kept talking about how they

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<v Speaker 14>had to replace him as president as the nominee because

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 14>he clearly wasn't competent to be the nominee. The next

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 14>question needs to be, well, was he competent to be president?

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 13>Because if you.

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<v Speaker 14>Can't run, I'm not sure you can actually it's actually

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 14>more taxing and more difficult, and frankly more important to

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 14>run the country than to run for the guy running

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 14>the country. So I think that brings up more questions

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<v Speaker 14>than an answer is when you replace him as the nominee.

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<v Speaker 14>And I don't think he answers them when he's falling

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<v Speaker 14>asleep on the beach in Delaware.

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<v Speaker 3>No, clearly not. He is clocked off in Delaware and

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<v Speaker 3>not running America. Look, let's move on, army, because I

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<v Speaker 3>want to get your response to the CNN anchor Aaron

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 3>Burnett appears to have marveled at some of the far

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 3>left policy positions that Kamala Harris had when she was

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<v Speaker 3>a presidential candidate back in twenty nineteen, including taxpayer funded

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<v Speaker 3>gender transition surgeries for detained a legal migrants. Have a listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take immigration and look at what she said here.

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<v Speaker 2>She said on immigration, she made this open ended pledge

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<v Speaker 2>to end immigrant attention. She said she supported taxpayer funded

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<v Speaker 2>gender transition surgeries for deteined migrants.

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<v Speaker 7>She also said she.

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<v Speaker 16>Taxpayer funded gender transition surgeries for detainment.

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<v Speaker 3>He actually said she supported.

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<v Speaker 2>She wrote, both wrote and answered in the affirmative when

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<v Speaker 2>she was asked this, and she said she also supported

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 2>it for federal prisoners. Now, she also pledged to slash

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<v Speaker 2>immigration detention by fifty percent, close all family and private facilities,

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<v Speaker 2>and decrease funding for ICE and then the end and

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<v Speaker 2>ICE detainers with local law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 16>I mean, these are these are things that you know,

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<v Speaker 16>it would be hard to think that you would come

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<v Speaker 16>up with taxpayer funding gender transitions for for detained migrants.

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<v Speaker 16>And yet this, as you say, written and verbally.

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<v Speaker 4>Army, it sounds like this CNN.

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<v Speaker 3>Host is surprised by the evidence that's right in front

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<v Speaker 3>of her.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh that was so delicious to watch. I got.

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:45.759
<v Speaker 14>I gotta say, Look, Andrew Kazinski is actually, you know,

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 14>a pretty good reporter, and I think he does hold

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 14>people to account on both sides. So I'm glad they

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 14>had him on to talk about this issue. I think

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:58.439
<v Speaker 14>it highlights a couple points. First of all, that their

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 14>CNN and the mainstream he is so used to carrying

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 14>the Democrats water that then where they're confronted with a

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 14>data point from their own people, they are genuinely shocked.

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.800
<v Speaker 14>I think they really do believe their their their their bs.

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.399
<v Speaker 14>And I think what's what's interesting is. It does high

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 14>and by the way, you know, later on on that

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 14>in that interview they talked about they held her to

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:25.720
<v Speaker 14>account that she was that that Kamala Harris was taking

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 14>a you know, photos and videos of her in front

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<v Speaker 14>of the wall that Donald Trump built. I think that

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 14>was interesting as well. That was a little bit shocking,

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 14>but it highlights the point, which is that's look, outside

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 14>of of the economy and inflation, immigration is their biggest vulnerability.

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 14>And that's where we have to continue on hitting her. Now,

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 14>Trump did that in this in this debate to to

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 14>a large extent, but it does not serve him well.

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 14>It does not serve the purpose of the Republicans being elected.

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:58.279
<v Speaker 14>But continue to talk about things like the clip you

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:00.720
<v Speaker 14>showed before about the Haitians eating pets.

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:02.800
<v Speaker 13>Right, it makes you look weird.

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 14>It does make that does make you look weird, right,

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 14>and it does make it It's an it's it has

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:10.840
<v Speaker 14>been look, whether it debunked or not, I'm not sure

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 14>a number of people have debunked it, I don't know.

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 14>But it doesn't serve you well for that to be

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 14>your immigration talking point.

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:19.240
<v Speaker 13>It just doesn't There's.

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 14>So many more clear, true direct ways to hit her

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 14>on immigration.

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 13>You don't have to use that.

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 14>It doesn't serve you well, It doesn't make you look

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 14>good among regular people don't know anything about this stuff.

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 14>I think they need to focus on the same the

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 14>issues that she is most vulnerable on.

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 13>That clearly she is losing on an imigrasion.

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, she certainly, she certainly is. Now. Look, Milania

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Trump has spoken publicly for the very first time about

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 3>the assassination attempt on her husband, questioning officials accounts of

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:54.280
<v Speaker 3>the incident. This is the video she posted.

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<v Speaker 17>The attempt to end my husband's life was a horrible,

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<v Speaker 17>distressing experience. Now, the silence around it feels heavy. I

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<v Speaker 17>can't help but wonder why didn't law enforcement officials rise

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<v Speaker 17>the shooter before the speech? There is definitely more to

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<v Speaker 17>this story, and we need to uncover the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, what do you make of the statement she's

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<v Speaker 4>made here?

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<v Speaker 14>First of all, I think it's so interesting. I mean,

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<v Speaker 14>one of the most monumental moments in election history was

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<v Speaker 14>a candidate an assassination tend to begin a candidate live

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<v Speaker 14>on television. Yet we've pretty much forgotten all about it.

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<v Speaker 14>Like I remember, in the moment, it was like this

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 14>is it Trump in that moment with his hand in

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<v Speaker 14>the air. I know I will staying around saying, oh God,

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:48.800
<v Speaker 14>the election's wrapped up. But we've really, for the most part,

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 14>it's not been an issue. Kind of forgot all about it,

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<v Speaker 14>which I think is fascinating. Look, I think her pointed

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<v Speaker 14>are interesting. I don't think it's any conspiracy around here.

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<v Speaker 14>I don't like the idea of a conspiracy around it.

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<v Speaker 13>And it's true.

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<v Speaker 14>I think competency really was the major issue there. Do

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<v Speaker 14>you remember when they were saying, well, why didn't they

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<v Speaker 14>go on the roof and check out the roof? It

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<v Speaker 14>was a slanted roof. It couldn't go on a roof

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<v Speaker 14>because it was too dangerous because it was a slight,

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 14>little slant to the roof. I think that the bigger

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<v Speaker 14>focus is on a competence as opposed to some kind

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<v Speaker 14>of conspiracy theory.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Look, that's certainly the way they're trying to paint it,

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<v Speaker 3>for sure. Now, look, White Fragility author Robin DiAngelo has

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<v Speaker 3>been tricked into paying reparations to a black producer in

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:35.400
<v Speaker 3>podcaster Matt Walsh's upcoming documentary Am I Racist? This is

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<v Speaker 3>according to The New York Post, which says that an

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 3>undercover man bun wearing Walsh go to DiAngelo into ponying

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<v Speaker 3>up cash to his producer Ben to compensate for the

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 3>sins of the past by first coughing up the money himself.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, what do you make of this?

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<v Speaker 14>Okay, I love that kind of thing. That's part of

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 14>what I do as well. So I think when they're

0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 14>able to embarrass a race huckster like like like her,

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<v Speaker 14>Robert de Angelo, I'm all for it. Robert Deaneo has

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<v Speaker 14>made millions of dollars race baiting and creating racial division

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<v Speaker 14>or country. She gets significant speaking fees. She does them

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<v Speaker 14>all the time, and and and by the way, yeah.

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<v Speaker 13>She she also is.

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<v Speaker 14>Look, she's one of the more negative forces in our country.

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 14>And also you know during her PhD thesis she's actually, ironically,

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 14>I've been accused of plagiarizing a minority scholar.

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<v Speaker 13>So yeah, I find it all fascinating. Happy to see it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's very fascinating. Army Horror, it's great to be

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<v Speaker 3>with you. Thank you very much for joining us on

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<v Speaker 3>the show this evening. What's the pleasure We'll stay with

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<v Speaker 3>us Coming up after the break, the UK labor government

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:52.839
<v Speaker 3>sparks outrage over there controversial funding cuts that could lead

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<v Speaker 3>the elderly without hating during winter. Darren Brimes will join

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<v Speaker 3>me next. Welcome back. Joining me now is gb News

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<v Speaker 3>host Darren Grimes. Darren, thanks for joining us. Let's start

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<v Speaker 3>with the British Prime Minister ki Istamo, who has warnty

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<v Speaker 3>is prepared to make unpopular decisions on government spending after

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<v Speaker 3>voting to cut payments which help millions of elderly pay

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<v Speaker 3>for their heating bills. Now here is the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 3>getting slammed by a journalist for cutting the winter fuel.

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<v Speaker 18>Allowance on that twenty two billion. I want everybody watching

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<v Speaker 18>this to know and understand that nearly half of that

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<v Speaker 18>twenty two billion, nine billion pounds comes from decisions that

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<v Speaker 18>your government has made to give many public sector workers

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<v Speaker 18>pay rises above inflation, including junior doctors getting twenty two

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<v Speaker 18>percent of an increase over two years. So again, when

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<v Speaker 18>it comes to winter fuel allowance, that was a choice.

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<v Speaker 18>It was a political decision for reasons that you say

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<v Speaker 18>you want to sort out the economy, But how can

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<v Speaker 18>you justify it to viewers who feel like it is

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<v Speaker 18>an attack on some people who've worked hard all their lives.

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<v Speaker 18>They're not wealthy, they don't have money to spare and

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<v Speaker 18>this year, if it's cold, they're going to be looking

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<v Speaker 18>at the thermostat I'm wondering if they can pay their bills.

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<v Speaker 3>Darren, what does the Prime Minister have against pensioners.

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<v Speaker 19>Well, that's a very good question, actually, and I think

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<v Speaker 19>there's a fair amount of evidence right now to suggest

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<v Speaker 19>that he does have an issue. But look, the issue

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<v Speaker 19>fundamentally is one of pure polity, which is that the

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<v Speaker 19>elderly generations do not vote for the left wing Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 19>It's a Labor party that thends twelve billion pounds in

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<v Speaker 19>so called climate aid abroad over helping pensioners in an

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<v Speaker 19>environment in which the Labor Party are actively making energy

0:41:56.000 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 19>more expensive through its pursuit of the not zero policy,

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<v Speaker 19>because they're actually seeking to put household bills up through

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 19>expensive negotiations that they've just had hundreds of pounds on

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<v Speaker 19>energy bills through renewable subsidies. So elderly people are going

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<v Speaker 19>to really suffer this winter as a consequence of the

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:24.840
<v Speaker 19>pursuit of net zero and the fact that the Labor

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<v Speaker 19>Party is ideologically wedded to combat and that it strikes

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<v Speaker 19>me the so called good times pension has have had

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<v Speaker 19>since twenty ten, even though we have some of the

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<v Speaker 19>lowest pensions in the OECD. I just think fundamentally this

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<v Speaker 19>is purely one of him looking to make some cuts

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<v Speaker 19>and seeing that elderly people do not vote Labor and

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 19>therefore they'll be the first ones to receive the acts.

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<v Speaker 19>It's pure politics and it's really quite wrong actually, because

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<v Speaker 19>I think thousands of elderly people are going to struggle

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<v Speaker 19>this winter as energy bills go up by ten percent

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<v Speaker 19>ten percent. We should be an energy independent country, but

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<v Speaker 19>where instead a basket case in pursuit of greater politics.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're not wrong, and it's a very concerning particularly

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<v Speaker 3>for the vulnerable. As you mentioned now, Darren, more than

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen hundred prisoners have been released early in England and

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<v Speaker 3>Wales as part of a government scheme to ease over

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:30.200
<v Speaker 3>crowding in prisons. I've got to say, Darren, this seems

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<v Speaker 3>like a worry to me.

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, well indeed it is. I mean, there are a

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<v Speaker 19>lord of young men getting out of prison yesterday saying

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<v Speaker 19>that they would vote for the Labor Party for the

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 19>rest of their lives. They were so happy with that

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 19>as they popped champagne courts and all the rest of it. Look,

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<v Speaker 19>this is deeply troubling because the report suggests that actually

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<v Speaker 19>there are a whole host of people in this country

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<v Speaker 19>victims of crime who don't know that the perpetrator of

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 19>said crime is now released and into the wild, so

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<v Speaker 19>getting up to goodness only knows what. There is no

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:11.760
<v Speaker 19>safety anymore in this country. You know, knife crime goes

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 19>off without hitch. Phone snatchings in London are more frequent

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 19>than catching one of those red buses. It just it

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<v Speaker 19>seems like this is a country where that is really

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<v Speaker 19>really just thing to hell with law and order, and

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<v Speaker 19>that has severe consequences for the population, but also even

0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 19>for tourism and things like that. People don't feel safe

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<v Speaker 19>coming to a country that is operating in the way

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<v Speaker 19>in which we are right now. So I'm afraid to

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<v Speaker 19>say that until actually the law and law makers make

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:54.520
<v Speaker 19>sure that there are consequences for law breakers, then this

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<v Speaker 19>kind of thing is just going to continue to spiral on.

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<v Speaker 19>I don't know about you, but I would have done

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<v Speaker 19>absolutely everything in my gift to make sure that prisoners

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:06.840
<v Speaker 19>would not be out early, to make sure they have

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:11.359
<v Speaker 19>actually suffered the consequences of their actions. But now we're

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 19>talking a believer it or not. The Labor government are

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<v Speaker 19>talking about putting them up in hotels in the interim

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:21.719
<v Speaker 19>because we don't have the prison population. Well, what's wrong

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:24.440
<v Speaker 19>with the Bibby Stockholm that we had are just off

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:27.759
<v Speaker 19>the coast of Britain where actually we were going to

0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 19>put the asylum so called asylum seekers that arrived here illegally. Well,

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:38.240
<v Speaker 19>that actually would have done for a few prison population places.

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<v Speaker 19>But instead we're talking about putting them in hotels. I mean,

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<v Speaker 19>what kind of a terran is that?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what kind of precedent is it setting?

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like a he go, here's a free for all.

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 3>You can get out of jail early. No worries on

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<v Speaker 3>the labor government extraordinary. Now, look, the UK has joined

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:59.400
<v Speaker 3>the US, France and Germany in imposing fresh sanctions on

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:03.400
<v Speaker 3>Iran for supplying Russia with ballistic missiles for use in

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:08.359
<v Speaker 3>Ukraine Darren. The measures include a halting national carrier Iran's

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:10.399
<v Speaker 3>ability to fly to the UK.

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<v Speaker 4>How big of an impact will this have do you think?

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<v Speaker 19>Look, I think the impact will be negligible at best,

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<v Speaker 19>because let's not forget that we are a country that

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<v Speaker 19>just the other week suspended barred band certain arms sales

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<v Speaker 19>to the State of Israel. Now, the State of Israel,

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<v Speaker 19>in my opinion, is very much at the frontier of

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:41.280
<v Speaker 19>the battle against the tyrannical Iranian state and its proxies. Now,

0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 19>we can do this all we want and virtue signal

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.760
<v Speaker 19>about Iran air and all these other things, but actually

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 19>we just said to Israel that we're going to unarm

0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:53.879
<v Speaker 19>them in certain respects whilst they actually fight Iran. Now

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 19>to me, that means that we're pandering to the allies

0:46:57.160 --> 0:47:01.279
<v Speaker 19>of Iran here at home over actually standing by what

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 19>is one of our most important, key strategic allies within

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 19>the region. So I think this is just completely disjointed

0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:13.400
<v Speaker 19>by the United Kingdom. Apparently our US allies are also

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:16.840
<v Speaker 19>angry with the decision that's a care starmer made to

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:21.480
<v Speaker 19>suspend the sale of those arms. So I'm afraid that

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:24.879
<v Speaker 19>I don't buy this whatsoever. I think there is far

0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:30.959
<v Speaker 19>too much pandering to these nefarious Islamists who are in

0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 19>the State of Iran, but also their allies within the

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<v Speaker 19>Western world too, And until we get serious on that,

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:42.360
<v Speaker 19>because around does have a significant hold within places like

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<v Speaker 19>the United Kingdom, which is maddening to say, to be

0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:49.680
<v Speaker 19>perfectly frank, but until we actually get serious on the

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:52.760
<v Speaker 19>threat at home as well. But it doesn't really matter

0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 19>about the threat through an airline carrier. I'm afraid no.

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<v Speaker 3>I completely agree he look, I want pivot to the

0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:04.719
<v Speaker 3>Royals because Megan and Harry showed their desperation for relevancy

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:09.520
<v Speaker 3>once again. Soon after Princess Kate released her heartfelt cancer update,

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 3>the Non Royals then released a teaser for their latest

0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:15.160
<v Speaker 3>Netflix program, Polo. I don't know about you.

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<v Speaker 4>I find the timing very curious.

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:18.279
<v Speaker 3>They've always got a.

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:21.319
<v Speaker 4>One up the actual Royal family, it seems.

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:26.720
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, exactly, And it's disgusting timing, really, isn't it, given

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:30.680
<v Speaker 19>that that was a very emotional video in which the

0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:35.239
<v Speaker 19>Princess of Wales, Kate was actually making clear that you know,

0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:40.360
<v Speaker 19>she had gone through her chemotherapy journey, and it was

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:44.160
<v Speaker 19>a message of hope, of love, of optimism, really really lovely.

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:47.600
<v Speaker 19>And then you've got actually a little sop to a

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 19>sport that precious little people play, apart from the extremely

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:58.840
<v Speaker 19>privileged in many cases and royal members of the Royal family.

0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:03.760
<v Speaker 19>So I think the timing cannot be coincidental. As Jenny

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:07.279
<v Speaker 19>Bond was saying there, I think actually the fact of

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 19>the matter is that they want to actually piggyback off

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 19>of the fact that the case is in the press

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:18.319
<v Speaker 19>in such a serious way. Every single press outlet that

0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:21.480
<v Speaker 19>I can think of, whether it be America, Australia, the

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:26.319
<v Speaker 19>United Kingdom, was carrying that video. So they want to

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 19>actually ensure that their Netflix venture, which is going down

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:32.879
<v Speaker 19>the pan by the way, they want to make sure

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 19>it has some semblance of success. This is desperation from

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:38.319
<v Speaker 19>this petulant pair.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely as always, Darren Grimes, great to have you on.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for joining us this evening.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's it for me. Up next is News Night.

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<v Speaker 3>Good Night,