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Speaker 1: On scorns Australia.

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Speaker 2: This is the winder Panety Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show. I'm

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Speaker 3: Daniki di Giorgio coming up tonight. Shocking anti Israel protests

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Speaker 3: erupt in Melbourne. Daniel Wilde would join us to discuss

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Speaker 3: the crazy scenes.

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Speaker 4: The WA Parliament has.

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Speaker 3: Passed an urgency motion which will allow anyone, including children,

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Speaker 3: to change their legal sex and allow men to access

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Speaker 3: female only spaces. Stephanie Bastian joins us shortly. Will dive

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Speaker 3: into all the best moments of the Trump Harris presidential

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Speaker 3: debate with Army Horowitz, including this hilarious moment.

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Speaker 5: Everything that she believed three years ago and four years

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Speaker 5: ago is out the window. She's going to make philosophy now.

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Speaker 5: In fact, I was going to send her a maga.

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Speaker 3: Hat Uk labor sparks outrage over their controversial funding cuts

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Speaker 3: that could lead the elderly without heating during winter grimes

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Speaker 3: on that later in the hour and of course left

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Speaker 3: he's a losing it, including more white dudes for Karmela.

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Speaker 4: There lunacy nos no bounds.

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Speaker 6: Look, I'm going to vote for Kamala Harris. She could

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Speaker 6: run over a child live on TV. I'm going to

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Speaker 6: vote for Kamala Harris. I'm never going to vote for Trump.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Deputy executive director of the Institute

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Speaker 3: of Public Affairs, Daniel Wilde. Daniel, thank you very much

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Speaker 3: for joining us. Let's start with the out of control

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Speaker 3: lunacy that unfolded on the streets of Melbourne today when

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Speaker 3: anti war and anti Israel idiot activists clashed with police.

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Speaker 3: Here's a look, Daniel, this is absolutely disgraceful. The protesters

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Speaker 3: threw paint, they threw horsepoo at the cops, they threw

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Speaker 3: a manure at the horses. They were totally out of control.

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Speaker 3: What do they seriously think they are going to achieve here?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a good question, Denika. There's a couple of things.

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Speaker 7: I mean, everybody has a right to protest, and everyone

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Speaker 7: has the right to freedom of speech.

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Speaker 1: That's fundamental to.

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Speaker 7: Our way of life, whether you agree or disagree with

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Speaker 7: the particulars of what these people are talking about. But

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Speaker 7: at the same time, the community also has the right

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Speaker 7: to attend events peacefully, and clearly that was not the

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Speaker 7: intent of these protesters, many of whom were, as you've

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Speaker 7: pointed out, engaging in violent acts and seeking to intimidate

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Speaker 7: those who were attending this very important function held in Melbourne.

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Speaker 7: The police in Victoria were given special powers with which

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Speaker 7: to deal with these protesters, and it's important that those

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Speaker 7: powers are used in a balanced way, not overdone. It

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Speaker 7: looks like the police have done the right thing on

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Speaker 7: this occasion. The other point that I'd make is I've

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Speaker 7: seen some people criticizing the police for brutality, but where

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Speaker 7: were these people during the COVID lockdowns, where police at

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Speaker 7: the time I were dealing in a very brutal way

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Speaker 7: with protesters who were saying who had a different opinion

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Speaker 7: to what the government had at the time. So I

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Speaker 7: think the point here is one to have equal policing

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Speaker 7: and an equal set of rules applied to everybody. And

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Speaker 7: I think on this occasion the police look to have

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Speaker 7: got it right, at least based on what I've seen

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Speaker 3: Oh look, absolutely, I mean the scenes we saw today

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Speaker 3: certainly warranted it, and I do agree with you. You know,

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Speaker 3: you have a right to protest in this country, but

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Speaker 3: it clearly was not peaceful today. There Now, youth crime

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Speaker 3: is out of control across the country, but you figures

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Speaker 3: released today by the Crime Statistics Agency reveal just how

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Speaker 3: frightening the situation is. In Victoria, teen criminals are breaking

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Speaker 3: into ten times more homes than when Labour came to power,

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Speaker 3: and the number of residential aggravated burglaries a committed by

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Speaker 3: offenders age ten to seventeen has almost surged one thousand

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Speaker 3: percent in the last financial year. Daniel, it means that

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Speaker 3: teens are now breaking into a home on average three

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Speaker 3: times a day. That's shocking. How has it gotten this point, Well.

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Speaker 7: It's gone to this point because of illediate justice system.

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Speaker 7: When it comes to violent crime. You know, we know

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Speaker 7: that those who commit violent crime need to be dealt

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Speaker 1: There needs to be immediate.

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Speaker 7: Consequences for these actions. State governments haven't helped because in

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Speaker 7: the main they have been advocating for raising the age

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Speaker 7: encourage gain behavior where adults end up getting children to

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Speaker 1: So it's a very bad system.

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Speaker 7: One of the issues with our criminal justice system more

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Speaker 7: nonviolent criminals and not enough focus on violent criminals. Those

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Speaker 7: that just hasn't been happening.

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Speaker 3: No, and it hasn't been happening around the country. It's

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Speaker 3: been absolutely shocking and no wonder a number of residents

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Speaker 3: are terrified. Look, let's now talk about Big Australia. The

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Speaker 3: Bureau of Statistics has confirmed that Australians are now getting

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Speaker 3: poorer faster, due in large part to the record rate

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Speaker 3: of migration we've seen, particularly since Labor came into power. Now, Daniel,

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Speaker 3: the IPA has researched this extensively.

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Speaker 1: What have you found, Well, thanks, Anika.

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Speaker 7: What we've found is that we are experiencing the largest

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Speaker 7: search to our population in our nation's history, and that

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Speaker 7: it hasn't been planned for and as a result, Australians

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Speaker 7: are getting poorer. As you rightly say, there's been six

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Speaker 7: consecutive quarters of negative per capita economic growth, which is

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Speaker 7: the longest declient to living standards on record, and those

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Speaker 7: records go back to the early nineteen seventies. So this

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Speaker 7: economy is worse than the economy that Whitlam presided over.

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Speaker 1: For the living standards of mainstream Australians.

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Speaker 7: And the reason this is happening is there's been no

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Speaker 7: planning in place and we've got immense pressure on our

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Speaker 7: social services, our schools, our roads, our hospitals and of

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Speaker 7: course our housing. We know that there is an acute

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Speaker 7: housing shortage and rental affordability has plummeted along with it.

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Speaker 7: So look, as a nation, we want to be a

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Speaker 7: welcoming nation. We want to be a tolerant nation, and

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Speaker 7: who can blame migrants for wanting to come to our

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Speaker 7: great country for a better future and a better way

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Speaker 7: of life. But the current size of the program is

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Speaker 7: simply too big for our nation to absorb. And that's

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Speaker 7: why a large and growing majority of Australians are saying

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Speaker 7: to the government this intake must be reduced, and it

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Speaker 7: must be reduced fast.

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Speaker 3: Look absolutely, because in the end, nobody ever voted for

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Speaker 3: a big Australia, yet here we are, and it's putting

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Speaker 3: a lot of pressure on those particularly wanting to get

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Speaker 3: into the housing market or the rental crisis. So no

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Speaker 3: really good observation there. Let's talk about this gold mine saga.

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Speaker 3: It gets murkier and murkier For Tanya Plipisec of course,

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Speaker 3: she blocked that gold mine in New South Wales for

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Speaker 3: Aboriginal cultural heritage reasons.

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Speaker 4: Yet I can't provide the evidence.

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Speaker 3: To support the decision because of Aboriginal cultural heritage reasons.

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Speaker 3: Now questions have been raised over a newspaper article from

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Speaker 3: site within the area of that proposed gold mine. Now

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Speaker 3: Daniel experts are warning not to take that newspaper article

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Speaker 3: at face value. There is no evidence to support it,

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Speaker 3: they say, So it just gets more and more embarrassing

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Speaker 3: for the minister.

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Speaker 7: Well it does, and ever since day one, Tanya Plibasek

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Speaker 7: has not been upfront with the Australian people for her

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Speaker 7: extraordinary decision to not allow this gold mine to go ahead.

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Speaker 7: As the days go by, it's increasingly apparent that the

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Speaker 7: can of bureaucracy is at war with Australia's resources sector.

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Speaker 7: This gold mine is just the latest example. But any

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Speaker 7: major project that's trying to get up these days is

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Speaker 7: either going to be disrupted by partially government funded green

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Speaker 7: activists like the Environmental Defender's Office, or they're going to

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Speaker 7: experience tremendous delays in the approvals process. Which is designed

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Speaker 7: to grind them to a halt because they know if

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Speaker 7: they hold these projects up for long enough, the economy

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Speaker 7: will turn against the business case and ultimately these projects

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Speaker 7: won't go ahead. There's also a sovereign risk where if

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Speaker 7: you're an investor, and you could be investing in a

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Speaker 7: lot of countries around the world when it comes to

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Speaker 7: resources sector projects, you look at these issues and you say, well,

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Speaker 7: I might avoid Australia because there's this risk to which

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Speaker 7: at a premium is attached on your investment. So you

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Speaker 7: know there's very wide ranging economic and social implications of this.

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Speaker 7: And as you say, the Environment Minister, she hasn't been

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Speaker 7: transparent at all with the Australian people and there's been

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Speaker 7: conflicting information.

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Speaker 1: It's time for her to tell us the truth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, basically says to investors and business that we're closed.

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Speaker 3: We're closed. We're not open. We absolutely closed your spot on. Now,

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Speaker 3: a new report has found in order to meet its

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Speaker 3: needs to reprioritize and put major projects like the Metro,

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Speaker 3: schools and hospitals on hold. Daniel. The housing crisis, of course,

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Speaker 3: is not just conducive to New South Wales. It's everywhere,

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Speaker 3: but this certainly is a very ominous warning.

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Speaker 1: It is a concerning warning.

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Speaker 7: We were just talking about migration and the pressure that

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Speaker 7: that's placing on demand and this is one of the

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Speaker 7: consequences that there's only so much money and ultimately governments

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Speaker 7: have to choose what it is that they're going to finance.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 7: I know the Premiere Chris Minz has rejected this suggestion

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Speaker 7: and said they're going to go ahead with all of

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Speaker 7: the projects that's currently slated. But to take a broader

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Speaker 7: view of this, we've got a dysfunctional federation because the

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Speaker 7: federal government is in charge of the migration intake, which

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Speaker 7: is increasing demand, but state governments are in charge of

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Speaker 7: roads and other social services. I don't know what National

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Speaker 7: Cabinet is doing if they're not talking about this. The

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Speaker 7: left hand's not talking to the right hand, and Australias

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Speaker 7: look at and they don't understand why we have this problem.

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Speaker 7: If you're going to bring in x many migrants, then

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Speaker 7: you're going to have to have x many houses.

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Speaker 1: It's very simple.

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Speaker 7: So there's clearly been a failure of foresight and coordination

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Speaker 7: between labor governments. I mean it's not as if there's

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Speaker 7: a political device. It's wall to all labor other than

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Speaker 7: in the Northern Territory in Tasmania. So I think Australians

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Speaker 3: No, it makes sense. Now look before we let you go,

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Speaker 3: this is fun. A private crew has set out on

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Speaker 3: an orbital expedition as they prepare for the first ever

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Speaker 3: space walk by non professional astronauts. Daniel, this will be

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Speaker 3: quite a feat. If successful, it'll be the first ever

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Speaker 3: spacewalk by civilians.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's very exciting.

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Speaker 7: I think this shows the power of vision, and of

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Speaker 7: entrepreneurship and of ambition. So I think this has the

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Speaker 7: capacity to bring a lot of people together with excitement.

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Speaker 1: We're pretty divided a lot of the time.

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Speaker 7: So I hope this is a success and I'm very

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Speaker 7: excited to see what might come of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, Fingers crossed, Daniel Wilde, thanks for joining us. Well,

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Speaker 3: this is very concerning. WA Parliament has used its numbers

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Speaker 3: to pass an urgency motion, effectively acting any scrutiny of

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Speaker 3: its self id bill. What does that mean? Well, it

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Speaker 3: means anyone will be able to change their legal sex,

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Speaker 3: including children, and permit men to access female only spaces,

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Speaker 3: sports and services. Joining me now is Stephanie Bastian from

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Speaker 3: Women's Forum Australia. Stephanie, good to see you, Thanks for

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Speaker 3: joining us. How dangerous is this?

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Speaker 4: What sort of a precedent is it setting?

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Speaker 8: Good evening, Danika. These laws are very concerning because, of

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Speaker 8: course it makes it easier for men in particular to

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Speaker 3: What evidence is there to support that drug induced lactation

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Speaker 8: Do that, and there's no evidence that even the liquid

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. Well still to come, Lefties Losing

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Speaker 3: next to one. Pack it all. Now it is time

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Speaker 3: for Lefties Losing It. We will get to the presidential

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Speaker 3: with the Swifties, or should I say the deranged and

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Speaker 3: Did she, I don't know, commit a crime? Did she

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Speaker 3: you wait for it, liked then unliked an Instagram post

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Speaker 9: Taylor Swift is even worse because she surrounds herself with

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Speaker 3: Oh how dared Taylor Swift? She can't possibly be an

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Speaker 10: I have always felt that you need to Calm Down

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Speaker 4: That's just the very.

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Speaker 3: Plain and symbol.

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Speaker 5: Anybody who is not a straight white Swifty is.

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Speaker 3: Going to have some thoughts about this because Trump and

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Speaker 3: She must of course be a homophobe. Then can Taylor

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Speaker 9: Sure, but then we are going to have to speculate.

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Speaker 11: Okay, who do you allow in your life?

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Speaker 3: Are you going to allow homophobes?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: And uh, we should speculate that you have no life.

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Speaker 3: And let's not forget these are the lefties who pride

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Speaker 6: Cru Look, I'm going to vote for Kamala Harris. She

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Speaker 3: Okay, then that is truly normal, very saying that very

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Speaker 6: But the fact is, even though I think she'll make

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Speaker 6: events things like that. I don't know, man, I don't

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Speaker 3: I can't keep up. I guess just your average Karmala voter.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is what happens when Democrats, as we do,

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Speaker 4: One minute, it's one thing.

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Speaker 3: Next you don't know where that thought bubble will lead to.

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Speaker 7: Come?

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Speaker 12: Tell me right?

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Speaker 5: So viz.

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Speaker 2: Immediately I'm busy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I wonder what will happen when she grows old

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Speaker 3: And how about this one from Donald Trump Junior save

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Speaker 12: What in the hell is this? The chairman tweets protect

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Speaker 12: mister chairman? Because last year, for a very long time,

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Speaker 12: And now when we have victims coming here, you're tweeting

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Speaker 12: I hope you're okay.

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Speaker 3: You gotta laugh. But all you can say is if

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Speaker 4: There's only one choice come November.

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Speaker 3: the highlights of the presidential debate, including Trump's claim that

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Speaker 5: They're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're

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Speaker 3: And then he nailed Kamala Harris the borders are challenging

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Speaker 5: Now do you know that crime in Venezuela and crime

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Speaker 5: I'd like to see her go down to Washington, DC

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Speaker 5: during this debate, because we're wasting a lot of time,

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Speaker 5: come on, come on down to the office. Let's sign

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Speaker 3: I mean, Kamala Harris has no legs to stand on

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Speaker 13: we're trending.

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Speaker 14: The polls are trending against her now that the sugar

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Speaker 14: high of her replacing Biden is over and after the DNC,

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Speaker 14: and she did not score that that knockout punch. Look,

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Speaker 14: if you look at the New York Times poll that

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Speaker 14: came out, this is very very bad news for her

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Speaker 14: campaign and has her up one among lately voters, two

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Speaker 14: among all voters. And as how we all know foles

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Speaker 14: seem to under sample Trump voters. But if you look

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Speaker 14: at the cross tabs, they're even worse for her.

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Speaker 13: This is an election of change.

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Speaker 14: People majority of people want change, and actually a clear

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Speaker 14: majority view Trump as the agent of change more than

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Speaker 14: Kamala Harris. And if they talked to the voters and said, hey,

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Speaker 14: who do you think will do better on the particular

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Speaker 14: issue that you care about the most about exemplifying or

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Speaker 14: specifying particular issue. Again, Trump wins a clear majority over

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Speaker 14: Kamala Harris, and he's up sixteen percent of her in

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Speaker 14: the economy, which is the number one issue across voters.

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Speaker 13: So she really needed a knockout blow. She didn't get it.

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Speaker 14: Look, this is a typical Trump debate. He's the same

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Speaker 14: tip debate he had before.

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Speaker 13: It was kind of rambling.

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Speaker 14: A little unfocused, but there's so much ammunition against Biden

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Speaker 14: Harris that some of the stuff that he was shooting

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Speaker 14: the gatling gun ended up hitting and sticking. The difference

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Speaker 14: this time was that he didn't have an opponent who

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Speaker 14: came on stage, poured gas lino over himself, let himself

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Speaker 14: on fire.

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Speaker 13: She didn't do that.

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Speaker 14: In fact, he kind of put himself a little bit

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Speaker 14: of a disadvantage by continuously talking about how dumb she is,

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Speaker 14: how terrible she is, So people are expecting that. Usually

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Speaker 14: you try to pump up the person you're about the debate.

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Speaker 14: He didn't do that, did the opposite and did not

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Speaker 14: serve him well. And in the first five minutes he

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Speaker 14: had a chance for a real clean body blow. When

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Speaker 14: she was asked, are you are are Americans better off now?

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Speaker 14: They were four years ago. She did not answer the question,

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Speaker 14: and when it came back to Trump, he should have

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Speaker 14: pointed out she didn't answer the question because the answer

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Speaker 14: is obviously no. He took a swing and a miss

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Speaker 14: on that. I thought it was a huge opportunity missed.

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Speaker 14: But again, he was also debating the moderators who who

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Speaker 14: simply were clearly on her side. The biggest issue was

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Speaker 14: they kept fact checking him in real time, but never

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Speaker 14: fact check hers when she clearly exaggerated or out right

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Speaker 14: live and I think that was a problem that all

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Speaker 14: Republicans have when it comes to debates, and this particular

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Speaker 14: one as well.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk. I want to talk more about that, because

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Speaker 3: it felt as though the moderators spent an enormous amount

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Speaker 3: of time, as you said, fact checking Donald Trump, but

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Speaker 3: not doing the same with Kamala Harris. Have a look

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Speaker 3: at this.

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Speaker 11: You bring up Springfield, Ohio, and ABCDS did reach out

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Speaker 11: to the city manager there. He told us there had

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Speaker 11: been no credible reports of President Trump. As you know,

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Speaker 11: the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down

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Speaker 11: in this country. But you have said quote you lost

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Speaker 11: by a whisker that you quote didn't quite make it

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Speaker 11: that you came up a little bit short. You did

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Speaker 11: bring up something you said she went to negotiate with

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Speaker 11: Vladimir Putin. Vice President Harris, have you ever met Vladimir Putin?

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Speaker 3: How biased army was this debate by ABC News? In

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Speaker 3: your view, it felt to me as though it was

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Speaker 3: very much so three against one.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 12: It was not great.

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Speaker 14: Look, it wasn't the most egregious of all of all

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Speaker 14: the people I've seen moderate debates, But it wasn't good.

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Speaker 14: And I think the single biggest issue in my view

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Speaker 14: was the fact that they were fact checking him.

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Speaker 13: And by the way, rightly.

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Speaker 14: So I'm not saying that fact that the moderate should

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Speaker 14: not fact check. I think they should. I think I

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Speaker 14: don't like it when either side exaggerates or says lies.

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Speaker 13: Both sides did it.

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Speaker 14: There are a number of times are up screaming at

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Speaker 14: the screen saying, guys, this is so obviously wrong. And

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Speaker 14: by the way, one of the most one of the

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Speaker 14: biggest ones the fact that she kept saying Trump abortion band,

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Speaker 14: trump abortion ban. Wasn't he didn't, There's no Trump abortion

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Speaker 14: band or the worst of all for me is Charleston.

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Speaker 14: That's one of the biggest lies of all time that

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Speaker 14: she continued this lie of he was referring to the

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Speaker 14: neo Nazis as good people on both sides.

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Speaker 13: I think go one and on and on, and I

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Speaker 13: think that was the worst of it.

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Speaker 3: But I'm going to say as well, ABC changed its

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Speaker 3: tune midway through, allowing Kamla to also interrupt Trump, so

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Speaker 3: it left him to roll out this comment.

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Speaker 5: She was big on defund the police in Minnesota. She

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Speaker 5: went out, I'm talking now, do you know mind?

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Speaker 4: Please?

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Speaker 5: Does that sound familiar?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 3: Of course, that was a reference to when she debated

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Speaker 3: Mike Pence in the VP debate and she said I

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Speaker 3: am speaking when he interrupted her.

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Speaker 15: Mister Vice President, I'm speaking. I'm speaking, Yes, a vice president,

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Speaker 15: I'm speaking. I'm speaking. Okay, if you don't mind letting

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Speaker 15: me finish, we can then have a conversation.

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Speaker 3: Okay, please, okay.

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Speaker 14: Yes, uh, Kamala Harris, I'm a victim here, I'm a woman.

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Speaker 13: Hear me a roar. I'm a victim. Look. I didn't

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Speaker 13: like it when she did it. It didn't. It didn't.

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Speaker 14: It doesn't come across as good. And I think when

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Speaker 14: Trump did it also doesn't come across as as as good.

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Speaker 14: I don't think I think either one. She's kind of

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Speaker 14: let it go. It was odd that her micro was on,

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Speaker 14: but yeah, I don't think it helps anybody when they

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Speaker 14: kind of play that role saying, oh, please let me speak,

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Speaker 14: let me speak. I don't, I said, don't play well

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Speaker 14: on TV.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it looked fair enough.

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Speaker 3: And there was also a funny moment where Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: said this because as we know, Kamala has been not

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Speaker 3: copying some of his policies, the ways of doing things.

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Speaker 5: Everything that she believed three years ago and four years

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Speaker 5: years ago is out the window. She's going to my

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Speaker 5: philosophy now. In fact, I was going to send her

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Speaker 5: a Maga hat. She's gone to my philosophy. But if

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Speaker 5: she ever got elected, she changed it and it will

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Speaker 5: be the end of our country.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was hilarious. I'd like to see Kamlay

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Speaker 3: in a Maga hat. But we know that she's really

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Speaker 3: struggled to articulate her own policies or lack thereof. Did

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Speaker 3: she explain her policies at all better in this debate?

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Speaker 14: No, no, not at all. I watched the debate twice.

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Speaker 14: It's by the way, I recommend nobody do. And in

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Speaker 14: the second time through for a time of life. Second time,

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Speaker 14: I was going through it and I was looking for

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Speaker 14: where the policies might be.

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Speaker 13: Didn't see them.

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Speaker 14: Look, I mean, she did actually populate her website with

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Speaker 14: a few paragraphs of policy, but as we as was

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Speaker 14: actually kind of proven, she just cut and literally cut

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Speaker 14: and paste Biden's policies onto her policy page.

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Speaker 13: So I guess we really want to her policies.

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Speaker 14: You just have to look at the last four years

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Speaker 14: of the Biden Harris presidency and I think you'll get

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Speaker 14: a sense of what her policies are. But I think, look,

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Speaker 14: the truth is, actually she will be more radical. One

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Speaker 14: thing Trump said that was right was yes, she did

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Speaker 14: change her tune on fracking, but she never said when she.

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Speaker 13: Said I changed in twenty twenty, what.

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Speaker 14: She was referring to is she was essentially vocalizing the

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Speaker 14: policy of her boss, the eventual president, Joe Biden.

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Speaker 13: She never said I believe this. She kept referring to.

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Speaker 14: What Joe Biden wanted to do, and in fact he

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Speaker 14: did do. And I think Trump was right when he said,

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Speaker 14: if she becomes president in Pennsylvania this debate was happening,

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Speaker 14: she will attempt to ban fracking day one.

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Speaker 13: I don't have any question about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she was yo yoing on that one, and you're right,

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Speaker 3: she likes to copy and paste things too.

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Speaker 4: Now, Donald Trump asked.

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Speaker 3: A key question that really has been on everyone's mind.

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Speaker 3: Where on earth is the president?

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Speaker 5: We're playing with World War three and we have a

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Speaker 5: president that we don't even know if he's Where is

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Speaker 5: our president? We don't even know if he's a president.

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Speaker 5: And just a clarity, he threw him out of a

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Speaker 5: campaign like a dog.

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Speaker 13: We don't even know is he a president?

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Speaker 3: I mean, there were reports this week that Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: has been on holiday for forty percent of his presidency,

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Speaker 3: and Trump really did ask a legitimate question there Where

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Speaker 3: on earth is the president?

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Speaker 13: I don't know.

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Speaker 14: It depends where doctor Joe Biden is. Where doctor Joe

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Speaker 14: Biden is, That's where the president is. Look, it's it's

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Speaker 14: it's so interesting that they kept talking about how they

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Speaker 14: had to replace him as president as the nominee because

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Speaker 14: he clearly wasn't competent to be the nominee. The next

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Speaker 14: question needs to be, well, was he competent to be president?

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Speaker 13: Because if you.

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Speaker 14: Can't run, I'm not sure you can actually it's actually

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Speaker 14: more taxing and more difficult, and frankly more important to

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Speaker 14: run the country than to run for the guy running

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Speaker 14: the country. So I think that brings up more questions

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Speaker 14: than an answer is when you replace him as the nominee.

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Speaker 14: And I don't think he answers them when he's falling

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Speaker 14: asleep on the beach in Delaware.

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Speaker 3: No, clearly not. He is clocked off in Delaware and

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Speaker 3: not running America. Look, let's move on, army, because I

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Speaker 3: want to get your response to the CNN anchor Aaron

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Speaker 3: Burnett appears to have marveled at some of the far

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Speaker 3: left policy positions that Kamala Harris had when she was

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Speaker 3: a presidential candidate back in twenty nineteen, including taxpayer funded

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Speaker 3: gender transition surgeries for detained a legal migrants. Have a listen.

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Speaker 2: Let's take immigration and look at what she said here.

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Speaker 2: She said on immigration, she made this open ended pledge

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Speaker 2: to end immigrant attention. She said she supported taxpayer funded

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Speaker 2: gender transition surgeries for deteined migrants.

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Speaker 7: She also said she.

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Speaker 16: Taxpayer funded gender transition surgeries for detainment.

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Speaker 3: He actually said she supported.

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Speaker 2: She wrote, both wrote and answered in the affirmative when

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Speaker 2: she was asked this, and she said she also supported

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Speaker 2: it for federal prisoners. Now, she also pledged to slash

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Speaker 2: immigration detention by fifty percent, close all family and private facilities,

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Speaker 2: and decrease funding for ICE and then the end and

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Speaker 2: ICE detainers with local law enforcement.

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Speaker 16: I mean, these are these are things that you know,

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Speaker 16: it would be hard to think that you would come

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Speaker 16: up with taxpayer funding gender transitions for for detained migrants.

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Speaker 16: And yet this, as you say, written and verbally.

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Speaker 4: Army, it sounds like this CNN.

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Speaker 3: Host is surprised by the evidence that's right in front

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Speaker 3: of her.

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Speaker 13: Oh that was so delicious to watch. I got.

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Speaker 14: I gotta say, Look, Andrew Kazinski is actually, you know,

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Speaker 14: a pretty good reporter, and I think he does hold

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Speaker 14: people to account on both sides. So I'm glad they

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Speaker 14: had him on to talk about this issue. I think

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Speaker 14: it highlights a couple points. First of all, that their

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Speaker 14: CNN and the mainstream he is so used to carrying

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Speaker 14: the Democrats water that then where they're confronted with a

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Speaker 14: data point from their own people, they are genuinely shocked.

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Speaker 14: I think they really do believe their their their their bs.

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Speaker 14: And I think what's what's interesting is. It does high

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Speaker 14: and by the way, you know, later on on that

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Speaker 14: in that interview they talked about they held her to

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Speaker 14: account that she was that that Kamala Harris was taking

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Speaker 14: a you know, photos and videos of her in front

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Speaker 14: of the wall that Donald Trump built. I think that

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Speaker 14: was interesting as well. That was a little bit shocking,

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Speaker 14: but it highlights the point, which is that's look, outside

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Speaker 14: of of the economy and inflation, immigration is their biggest vulnerability.

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Speaker 14: And that's where we have to continue on hitting her. Now,

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Speaker 14: Trump did that in this in this debate to to

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Speaker 14: a large extent, but it does not serve him well.

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Speaker 14: It does not serve the purpose of the Republicans being elected.

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Speaker 14: But continue to talk about things like the clip you

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Speaker 14: showed before about the Haitians eating pets.

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Speaker 13: Right, it makes you look weird.

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Speaker 14: It does make that does make you look weird, right,

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Speaker 14: and it does make it It's an it's it has

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Speaker 14: been look, whether it debunked or not, I'm not sure

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Speaker 14: a number of people have debunked it, I don't know.

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Speaker 14: But it doesn't serve you well for that to be

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Speaker 14: your immigration talking point.

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Speaker 13: It just doesn't There's.

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Speaker 14: So many more clear, true direct ways to hit her

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Speaker 14: on immigration.

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Speaker 13: You don't have to use that.

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Speaker 14: It doesn't serve you well, It doesn't make you look

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Speaker 14: good among regular people don't know anything about this stuff.

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Speaker 14: I think they need to focus on the same the

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Speaker 14: issues that she is most vulnerable on.

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Speaker 13: That clearly she is losing on an imigrasion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, she certainly, she certainly is. Now. Look, Milania

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Speaker 3: Trump has spoken publicly for the very first time about

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Speaker 3: the assassination attempt on her husband, questioning officials accounts of

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Speaker 3: the incident. This is the video she posted.

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Speaker 17: The attempt to end my husband's life was a horrible,

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Speaker 17: distressing experience. Now, the silence around it feels heavy. I

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Speaker 17: can't help but wonder why didn't law enforcement officials rise

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Speaker 17: the shooter before the speech? There is definitely more to

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Speaker 17: this story, and we need to uncover the truth.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what do you make of the statement she's

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Speaker 4: made here?

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Speaker 14: First of all, I think it's so interesting. I mean,

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Speaker 14: one of the most monumental moments in election history was

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Speaker 14: a candidate an assassination tend to begin a candidate live

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Speaker 14: on television. Yet we've pretty much forgotten all about it.

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Speaker 14: Like I remember, in the moment, it was like this

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Speaker 14: is it Trump in that moment with his hand in

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Speaker 14: the air. I know I will staying around saying, oh God,

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Speaker 14: the election's wrapped up. But we've really, for the most part,

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Speaker 14: it's not been an issue. Kind of forgot all about it,

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Speaker 14: which I think is fascinating. Look, I think her pointed

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Speaker 14: are interesting. I don't think it's any conspiracy around here.

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Speaker 14: I don't like the idea of a conspiracy around it.

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Speaker 13: And it's true.

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Speaker 14: I think competency really was the major issue there. Do

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Speaker 14: you remember when they were saying, well, why didn't they

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Speaker 14: go on the roof and check out the roof? It

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Speaker 14: was a slanted roof. It couldn't go on a roof

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Speaker 14: because it was too dangerous because it was a slight,

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Speaker 14: little slant to the roof. I think that the bigger

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Speaker 14: focus is on a competence as opposed to some kind

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Speaker 14: of conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, that's certainly the way they're trying to paint it,

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Speaker 3: for sure. Now, look, White Fragility author Robin DiAngelo has

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Speaker 3: been tricked into paying reparations to a black producer in

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Speaker 3: podcaster Matt Walsh's upcoming documentary Am I Racist? This is

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Speaker 3: according to The New York Post, which says that an

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Speaker 3: undercover man bun wearing Walsh go to DiAngelo into ponying

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Speaker 3: up cash to his producer Ben to compensate for the

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Speaker 3: sins of the past by first coughing up the money himself.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what do you make of this?

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Speaker 14: Okay, I love that kind of thing. That's part of

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Speaker 14: what I do as well. So I think when they're

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Speaker 14: able to embarrass a race huckster like like like her,

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Speaker 14: Robert de Angelo, I'm all for it. Robert Deaneo has

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Speaker 14: made millions of dollars race baiting and creating racial division

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Speaker 14: or country. She gets significant speaking fees. She does them

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Speaker 14: all the time, and and and by the way, yeah.

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Speaker 13: She she also is.

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Speaker 14: Look, she's one of the more negative forces in our country.

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Speaker 14: And also you know during her PhD thesis she's actually, ironically,

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Speaker 14: I've been accused of plagiarizing a minority scholar.

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Speaker 13: So yeah, I find it all fascinating. Happy to see it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very fascinating. Army Horror, it's great to be

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Speaker 3: with you. Thank you very much for joining us on

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Speaker 3: the show this evening. What's the pleasure We'll stay with

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Speaker 3: us Coming up after the break, the UK labor government

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Speaker 3: sparks outrage over there controversial funding cuts that could lead

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Speaker 3: the elderly without hating during winter. Darren Brimes will join

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Speaker 3: me next. Welcome back. Joining me now is gb News

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Speaker 3: host Darren Grimes. Darren, thanks for joining us. Let's start

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Speaker 3: with the British Prime Minister ki Istamo, who has warnty

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Speaker 3: is prepared to make unpopular decisions on government spending after

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Speaker 3: voting to cut payments which help millions of elderly pay

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Speaker 3: for their heating bills. Now here is the Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: getting slammed by a journalist for cutting the winter fuel.

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Speaker 18: Allowance on that twenty two billion. I want everybody watching

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Speaker 18: this to know and understand that nearly half of that

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Speaker 18: twenty two billion, nine billion pounds comes from decisions that

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Speaker 18: your government has made to give many public sector workers

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Speaker 18: pay rises above inflation, including junior doctors getting twenty two

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Speaker 18: percent of an increase over two years. So again, when

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Speaker 18: it comes to winter fuel allowance, that was a choice.

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Speaker 18: It was a political decision for reasons that you say

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Speaker 18: you want to sort out the economy, But how can

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Speaker 18: you justify it to viewers who feel like it is

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Speaker 18: an attack on some people who've worked hard all their lives.

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Speaker 18: They're not wealthy, they don't have money to spare and

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Speaker 18: this year, if it's cold, they're going to be looking

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Speaker 18: at the thermostat I'm wondering if they can pay their bills.

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Speaker 3: Darren, what does the Prime Minister have against pensioners.

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Speaker 19: Well, that's a very good question, actually, and I think

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Speaker 19: there's a fair amount of evidence right now to suggest

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Speaker 19: that he does have an issue. But look, the issue

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Speaker 19: fundamentally is one of pure polity, which is that the

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Speaker 19: elderly generations do not vote for the left wing Labor Party.

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Speaker 19: It's a Labor party that thends twelve billion pounds in

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Speaker 19: so called climate aid abroad over helping pensioners in an

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Speaker 19: environment in which the Labor Party are actively making energy

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Speaker 19: more expensive through its pursuit of the not zero policy,

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Speaker 19: because they're actually seeking to put household bills up through

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Speaker 19: expensive negotiations that they've just had hundreds of pounds on

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Speaker 19: energy bills through renewable subsidies. So elderly people are going

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Speaker 19: to really suffer this winter as a consequence of the

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Speaker 19: pursuit of net zero and the fact that the Labor

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Speaker 19: Party is ideologically wedded to combat and that it strikes

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Speaker 19: me the so called good times pension has have had

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Speaker 19: since twenty ten, even though we have some of the

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Speaker 19: lowest pensions in the OECD. I just think fundamentally this

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Speaker 19: is purely one of him looking to make some cuts

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Speaker 19: and seeing that elderly people do not vote Labor and

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Speaker 19: therefore they'll be the first ones to receive the acts.

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Speaker 19: It's pure politics and it's really quite wrong actually, because

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Speaker 19: I think thousands of elderly people are going to struggle

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Speaker 19: this winter as energy bills go up by ten percent

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Speaker 19: ten percent. We should be an energy independent country, but

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Speaker 19: where instead a basket case in pursuit of greater politics.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not wrong, and it's a very concerning particularly

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Speaker 3: for the vulnerable. As you mentioned now, Darren, more than

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Speaker 3: seventeen hundred prisoners have been released early in England and

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Speaker 3: Wales as part of a government scheme to ease over

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Speaker 3: crowding in prisons. I've got to say, Darren, this seems

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Speaker 3: like a worry to me.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, well indeed it is. I mean, there are a

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Speaker 19: lord of young men getting out of prison yesterday saying

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Speaker 19: that they would vote for the Labor Party for the

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Speaker 19: rest of their lives. They were so happy with that

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Speaker 19: as they popped champagne courts and all the rest of it. Look,

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Speaker 19: this is deeply troubling because the report suggests that actually

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Speaker 19: there are a whole host of people in this country

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Speaker 19: victims of crime who don't know that the perpetrator of

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Speaker 19: said crime is now released and into the wild, so

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Speaker 19: getting up to goodness only knows what. There is no

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Speaker 19: safety anymore in this country. You know, knife crime goes

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Speaker 19: off without hitch. Phone snatchings in London are more frequent

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Speaker 19: than catching one of those red buses. It just it

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Speaker 19: seems like this is a country where that is really

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Speaker 19: really just thing to hell with law and order, and

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Speaker 19: that has severe consequences for the population, but also even

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Speaker 19: for tourism and things like that. People don't feel safe

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Speaker 19: coming to a country that is operating in the way

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Speaker 19: in which we are right now. So I'm afraid to

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Speaker 19: say that until actually the law and law makers make

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Speaker 19: sure that there are consequences for law breakers, then this

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Speaker 19: kind of thing is just going to continue to spiral on.

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Speaker 19: I don't know about you, but I would have done

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Speaker 19: absolutely everything in my gift to make sure that prisoners

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Speaker 19: would not be out early, to make sure they have

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Speaker 19: actually suffered the consequences of their actions. But now we're

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Speaker 19: talking a believer it or not. The Labor government are

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Speaker 19: talking about putting them up in hotels in the interim

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Speaker 19: because we don't have the prison population. Well, what's wrong

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Speaker 19: with the Bibby Stockholm that we had are just off

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Speaker 19: the coast of Britain where actually we were going to

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Speaker 19: put the asylum so called asylum seekers that arrived here illegally. Well,

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Speaker 19: that actually would have done for a few prison population places.

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Speaker 19: But instead we're talking about putting them in hotels. I mean,

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Speaker 19: what kind of a terran is that?

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Speaker 4: Well, what kind of precedent is it setting?

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Speaker 3: It's just like a he go, here's a free for all.

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Speaker 3: You can get out of jail early. No worries on

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Speaker 3: the labor government extraordinary. Now, look, the UK has joined

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Speaker 3: the US, France and Germany in imposing fresh sanctions on

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Speaker 3: Iran for supplying Russia with ballistic missiles for use in

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Speaker 3: Ukraine Darren. The measures include a halting national carrier Iran's

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Speaker 3: ability to fly to the UK.

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Speaker 4: How big of an impact will this have do you think?

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Speaker 19: Look, I think the impact will be negligible at best,

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Speaker 19: because let's not forget that we are a country that

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Speaker 19: just the other week suspended barred band certain arms sales

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Speaker 19: to the State of Israel. Now, the State of Israel,

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Speaker 19: in my opinion, is very much at the frontier of

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Speaker 19: the battle against the tyrannical Iranian state and its proxies. Now,

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Speaker 19: we can do this all we want and virtue signal

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Speaker 19: about Iran air and all these other things, but actually

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Speaker 19: we just said to Israel that we're going to unarm

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Speaker 19: them in certain respects whilst they actually fight Iran. Now

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Speaker 19: to me, that means that we're pandering to the allies

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Speaker 19: of Iran here at home over actually standing by what

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Speaker 19: is one of our most important, key strategic allies within

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Speaker 19: the region. So I think this is just completely disjointed

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Speaker 19: by the United Kingdom. Apparently our US allies are also

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Speaker 19: angry with the decision that's a care starmer made to

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Speaker 19: suspend the sale of those arms. So I'm afraid that

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Speaker 19: I don't buy this whatsoever. I think there is far

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Speaker 19: too much pandering to these nefarious Islamists who are in

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Speaker 19: the State of Iran, but also their allies within the

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Speaker 19: Western world too, And until we get serious on that,

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Speaker 19: because around does have a significant hold within places like

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Speaker 19: the United Kingdom, which is maddening to say, to be

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Speaker 19: perfectly frank, but until we actually get serious on the

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Speaker 19: threat at home as well. But it doesn't really matter

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Speaker 19: about the threat through an airline carrier. I'm afraid no.

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Speaker 3: I completely agree he look, I want pivot to the

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Speaker 3: Royals because Megan and Harry showed their desperation for relevancy

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Speaker 3: once again. Soon after Princess Kate released her heartfelt cancer update,

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Speaker 3: the Non Royals then released a teaser for their latest

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Speaker 3: Netflix program, Polo. I don't know about you.

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Speaker 4: I find the timing very curious.

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Speaker 3: They've always got a.

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Speaker 4: One up the actual Royal family, it seems.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, exactly, And it's disgusting timing, really, isn't it, given

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Speaker 19: that that was a very emotional video in which the

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Speaker 19: Princess of Wales, Kate was actually making clear that you know,

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Speaker 19: she had gone through her chemotherapy journey, and it was

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Speaker 19: a message of hope, of love, of optimism, really really lovely.

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Speaker 19: And then you've got actually a little sop to a

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Speaker 19: sport that precious little people play, apart from the extremely

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Speaker 19: privileged in many cases and royal members of the Royal family.

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Speaker 19: So I think the timing cannot be coincidental. As Jenny

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Speaker 19: Bond was saying there, I think actually the fact of

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Speaker 19: the matter is that they want to actually piggyback off

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Speaker 19: of the fact that the case is in the press

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Speaker 19: in such a serious way. Every single press outlet that

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Speaker 19: I can think of, whether it be America, Australia, the

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Speaker 19: United Kingdom, was carrying that video. So they want to

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Speaker 19: actually ensure that their Netflix venture, which is going down

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Speaker 19: the pan by the way, they want to make sure

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Speaker 19: it has some semblance of success. This is desperation from

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Speaker 19: this petulant pair.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely as always, Darren Grimes, great to have you on.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining us this evening.

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Speaker 4: Well that's it for me. Up next is News Night.

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Speaker 3: Good Night,