Speaker 1: I want the fairy tale. I want the prince charming.
Speaker 2: She how do I put? This? Isn't a fan of
Speaker 2: my kissing style.
Speaker 1: Was the boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours. He's
Speaker 1: in a trash bin. He's non recyclable, catching her.
Speaker 2: Mut I love being love. I love love.
Speaker 3: On today's episode of Where's Your Head At, we are
Speaker 3: over the moon to welcome a fan favorite back to
Speaker 3: the studio.
Speaker 1: Can you guess who it is?
Speaker 2: It's mister aplus of course, star of Love on the Spectrum.
Speaker 2: He's back to catch up with us on all things love,
Speaker 2: life dating. He's busy year of podcasting so far.
Speaker 3: We had Michael THEA on the podcast last year and
Speaker 3: you guys loved hearing him, so we can't wait to.
Speaker 1: Have him back.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned.
Speaker 3: Where's Your Head At is a podcast that talks all
Speaker 3: things relationships, breakups, reality TV, trending shows, and everything in between.
Speaker 2: This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip,
Speaker 2: intimate details, advice, and much more.
Speaker 1: Hey Michael, welcome to the studio, coming back.
Speaker 4: Thank you. It's a pleasure to be back.
Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to have you here.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: We've obviously stayed in touch and see our last our
Speaker 2: last interview, our last chard I believe we have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're so excited to have you back.
Speaker 3: We're in Sydney and obviously last time we were in
Speaker 3: Sydney we got to see you. So we were like,
Speaker 3: let's have a round two, let's have another interview, let's
Speaker 3: have another chat, and let's get an update on what's
Speaker 3: been happening in your life.
Speaker 2: Where do we start?
Speaker 4: Well, technically, when you first when it used to be
Speaker 4: just then, you said last year, but technically it was
Speaker 4: actually December twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: One, No shit, it was too you're right, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: So it was technically like.
Speaker 4: Two over a year, Yes, over a year ago.
Speaker 2: You know what that actually feels like yesterday? It does
Speaker 2: feels like yesday. How quick this time going? It's scary.
Speaker 3: Since then, you have like the most amazing podcast. You've
Speaker 3: had some incredible guests on your podcast. Who's been your
Speaker 3: favorite guests that you've had?
Speaker 4: Well, technically, I've had a lot of amazing guests. They've
Speaker 4: all been great. But my dream mail guest was Mark
Speaker 4: Evan Jackson.
Speaker 1: Okay, and how was that interview?
Speaker 4: It was a really great interview.
Speaker 2: Where's what's he from?
Speaker 4: He's from Brooklyn ninety nine.
Speaker 2: Of course I saw this, Yeah.
Speaker 4: And also the Good Place and Parkson Recreation.
Speaker 2: No amazing.
Speaker 4: Even though I really enjoyed interviewing him and talking to
Speaker 4: him as well, I was kind of taken aback by
Speaker 4: how reserved he was.
Speaker 3: Really Yep, wow, so it's maybe a bit of an introvert.
Speaker 4: Possibly.
Speaker 2: Did you get a little starstruck when you spoke to him?
Speaker 2: Was he like because he's one of your Nope?
Speaker 4: No, I was actually keeping myself composed like.
Speaker 1: A professional, a true professional.
Speaker 2: How nervous animal was the last time to chat to you?
Speaker 2: She was a little starstruck.
Speaker 1: I was starstruck last time I met you.
Speaker 4: Flattering because a lot of women I've I've encountered have
Speaker 4: been start struck.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 3: And since our last interview, Love on the Spectrum Australia
Speaker 3: Season two has come out, right.
Speaker 4: Yep, that's right.
Speaker 1: Did you watch that?
Speaker 4: Of course it did?
Speaker 1: And what was your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4: It was just as great as the first time?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think it did very well, although that it's been
Speaker 4: quite some time since I've seen it.
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: When did that come out?
Speaker 4: The second seasoned on Netflix in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, way too quickly. Lately.
Speaker 3: Do you have like someone who you kind of have
Speaker 3: put on like a list that you still want to
Speaker 3: get on your podcast, like who's your dream guest?
Speaker 4: And Matt Honder and Matt It's like, no, that's a
Speaker 4: bit of a stretch, but we'll get you.
Speaker 3: You're not going to get an invitation onto the Mister
Speaker 3: Ray for Last anytime soon.
Speaker 2: You could potentially I'll be waiting my box waiting.
Speaker 3: For the mail.
Speaker 4: Cool, But I have to say that there's still a
Speaker 4: lot of people in the world that I want, really
Speaker 4: want to interview, a lot of people from America to
Speaker 4: be exact. Yeah, yes, there's quite a few. There's Kristen Bell.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: Kristen Bell.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I adore her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's cool.
Speaker 1: Is that like a bit of a celebrity crush?
Speaker 4: Not a celebrity crush, definitely not.
Speaker 2: She's married to Dak Shepherd.
Speaker 4: One of the things I love adore the most about
Speaker 4: it is she's so tiny.
Speaker 1: Isn't she just like my mother?
Speaker 4: And there's also Jim Parsons because I hope to have
Speaker 4: a a Shelden stand off with him, right, a Sheldon standoff? Oh,
Speaker 4: I'd be I would be myself and he'd be Sheldon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be cool. I'd be fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Nice. Do you have a celebrity crash?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Who and yet Taylor Joey?
Speaker 1: Who's that?
Speaker 2: What's she from?
Speaker 4: Emma? It's a film based upon one of Jane Austin's works.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's like an English classic.
Speaker 2: You do love English? Yeah, not anymore.
Speaker 1: You said to us last time that you loved English women.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: Oh you do.
Speaker 4: So there's still my favorite accents. But I really I
Speaker 4: do see myself marrying one, but there's no guarantee that
Speaker 4: fine one. Who's British?
Speaker 2: Have you made any plans to go to the UK? Since?
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm still going there, but we don't film Austin.
Speaker 1: When you film Austin sometime.
Speaker 4: In the second half of the year, you've.
Speaker 2: Got a film an acting job doing Austin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a television series.
Speaker 1: Actually, so you have an acting role, yes.
Speaker 4: But it's still in pre production right now.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, congratulations, what's awesome?
Speaker 4: What role are you playing Austin? Austin, he's the total character.
Speaker 1: So you're the main, main role actor in a series.
Speaker 4: I guess you could say that.
Speaker 1: Michael, congratulations said this.
Speaker 3: So you manifested this the last time you were on
Speaker 3: our podcast, you said, my dream is to be an
Speaker 3: actor on a show, and you've succeeded.
Speaker 4: Well technically. I was off with this well three years ago.
Speaker 1: What and you turned it down?
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 2: You kept it a secret from us though in the
Speaker 2: last episode.
Speaker 4: I had to because I was asked to, right, but
Speaker 4: I hadn't, not that I had a choice.
Speaker 2: So what's Austin about?
Speaker 4: Then? About a young man in his late twenties who
Speaker 4: travels to the UK to meet his long lost father
Speaker 4: because he was the result of a one night stand
Speaker 4: in the nineties.
Speaker 3: Wow, that sounds like something I could get around. That
Speaker 3: sounds like a great show.
Speaker 2: And then you are like, go through London in England
Speaker 2: and try find your dad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe.
Speaker 1: So how are you learning lines fairly?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: Okay, it's so exciting. So will you go over to
Speaker 1: the UK by yourself? So you're going solo?
Speaker 2: Yeah, come over there with you or meet you over there?
Speaker 2: Your family's having to meet you over there.
Speaker 1: Nope, you're doing this on alone.
Speaker 4: I don't need somebody to hold my hand. I'm sure.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that Cooper after.
Speaker 2: All, Well, I went, I just got back from it. Well,
Speaker 2: it feels like we're talking about time. It feels like yes,
Speaker 2: So I just got back from trip with my family
Speaker 2: to the UK. Now was that it was amazing? I
Speaker 2: with my two sisters and my mum had the best time.
Speaker 4: What's the weather like?
Speaker 2: That was in November? I was getting cold. We actually,
Speaker 2: to be fair, it was quite mild for that time
Speaker 2: of year.
Speaker 3: Well, look, speaking of your love life before, we do
Speaker 3: want a bit of an update on what's been happening.
Speaker 1: Obviously you have been looking for love. Have you found love?
Speaker 4: Not quite, but I'm still working on it.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Has there been anyone that's come through knew that you've
Speaker 2: been like, had something with, had feelings for Yeah? Do
Speaker 2: you want to ask me about it?
Speaker 1: I tell as much.
Speaker 4: Back in July last year, a woman from West from
Speaker 4: Western Australia sends an email to my podcast email about
Speaker 4: some kind of invitation to date me.
Speaker 1: So what did the email say?
Speaker 4: I've forgotten because it's been many months ago, right like
Speaker 4: six months actually.
Speaker 2: But it got you, It got your curiosity.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was surprised, but also intrigued.
Speaker 2: Of course fall up with her yeah.
Speaker 4: We started conversing through email first and then through messenger,
Speaker 4: and then we at some point we exchanged numbers. Then
Speaker 4: September she flew all the way from perfect Sydney for
Speaker 4: a date.
Speaker 1: She had a date we did and how was the date?
Speaker 4: Very beautiful?
Speaker 2: Where'd you go?
Speaker 4: Serrus?
Speaker 2: Serious?
Speaker 4: It's a classy place in Barangaroo. Beautiful, But that wasn't
Speaker 4: my first choice. I actually wanted to take it to
Speaker 4: the Meat wine Company.
Speaker 2: But amazing.
Speaker 5: She's not big on meat, right, so she's veggio, she's
Speaker 5: not vegetarian.
Speaker 4: She's actually more big on seafood. I don't know about
Speaker 4: her being a pescatarian, but.
Speaker 2: She doesn't like red meat a lot of Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know a lot of girls stay away from red meat.
Speaker 4: After all, red meat is more of a man's choice
Speaker 4: of food.
Speaker 2: Trust me. I was just telling Anna the other day.
Speaker 2: That's pretty much allup.
Speaker 3: Okay, so let's talk about the day. How did it go.
Speaker 3: Did you guys get along?
Speaker 4: Yes we did. Yeah, quite a pleasure to have around.
Speaker 2: Good charts.
Speaker 4: But we had very little time together in September, okay,
Speaker 4: because she was there for only a few days.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you only went on one day while she
Speaker 3: was in Sydney.
Speaker 4: Well, we had dinner one evening and then the following
Speaker 4: day we spend half the day together and had lunch together.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Go for lunch, you go on walk, isn't that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? We did around Darling Harbor.
Speaker 2: Oh beautiful place.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is such an exciting update.
Speaker 4: In fact, I decided that if this was going to
Speaker 4: be a success, then I would consider flying to Perth
Speaker 4: for a date. And I did two weeks ago.
Speaker 2: And you caught up with her in Perth.
Speaker 4: I did, Yes, So you're still talking to her? Yeah,
Speaker 4: we talked. We message each other every day. Wow.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you are growing feelings for her?
Speaker 4: I have you have?
Speaker 1: I have a question.
Speaker 3: When she was in Sydney, did you guys have a kiss?
Speaker 4: No? But I did give a little peck on the cheek.
Speaker 1: Such a gentleman. What about when you went to Perth?
Speaker 4: I gave her gave her a peck on the cheek
Speaker 4: here and there. We spend a little bit of time
Speaker 4: with each other each day.
Speaker 1: Oh beautiful.
Speaker 4: But we did have breakfast together, so that still counts
Speaker 4: as a date.
Speaker 1: Absolute. I love yeah breakfast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's in hospital. For three months.
Speaker 1: Oh no, what's happened?
Speaker 4: Well, she has an arexia.
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's sad.
Speaker 4: It is. Yeah, but this is going to be good
Speaker 4: for in the long run.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's healthy.
Speaker 4: It's only been one week so she's kind of struggling
Speaker 4: to adjust to things there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you messaging her while she's in the hospital.
Speaker 1: Yeah, having your support will be about to say.
Speaker 4: Technically. Also, I promised her that I would support it
Speaker 4: no matter what.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's lovely.
Speaker 4: But all I know is this is not going to
Speaker 4: be easy.
Speaker 1: No, it's not.
Speaker 3: It's going to be super challenging. But it's amazing that
Speaker 3: she has a rock like you to support her through it.
Speaker 3: So would you would you say that you guys are
Speaker 3: like seeing each other.
Speaker 1: Or are you kind of dating or what? Do you
Speaker 1: refer to each other as?
Speaker 4: All this time we have just been friends, but I
Speaker 4: kind of see it as seeing.
Speaker 1: Each other seeing each other, right.
Speaker 4: Although I don't really know what seeing each other means.
Speaker 2: Have you had the exclusive chat with her then to
Speaker 2: say like nope?
Speaker 1: Do you think that's something that could happen soon?
Speaker 4: I hope?
Speaker 3: So would you bring up the conversation and just say, hey,
Speaker 3: like talking to other people or are we just talking
Speaker 3: to each other?
Speaker 4: I could?
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe wait till she's on the mend a
Speaker 2: little bit and then bring it up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is a very bad time to ask us.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: If she's in Perth now in the hospital, would you
Speaker 2: fly over to visit her and maybe bring her some flowers?
Speaker 2: And I would do it?
Speaker 4: Yes, I'd be.
Speaker 1: Sweet lovely that you're seeing someone.
Speaker 2: Does she know you're going to the UK? She's cool
Speaker 2: with you taking off for an extended period of time.
Speaker 4: She even suggests at one point that she could come
Speaker 4: over and visit. Of course, not would be lovely.
Speaker 1: Has your parents met her?
Speaker 4: Unfortunately no, but they have met her on FaceTime?
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: They approved.
Speaker 4: They told me that she seems like a nice girl.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 3: That's all you want from your parents, Just a bit
Speaker 3: of the thumbs up.
Speaker 1: Kind of thing. Have you met her parents?
Speaker 4: I only met her mother and grandmother.
Speaker 2: Okay, did you post with her when you were over there?
Speaker 2: Because I saw you do have heaps posts in Perth,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't looking for a girlfriend. Did you launch
Speaker 2: onto the Instagram? Sorry I'm too excited. I'm jumping to
Speaker 2: conclusions here.
Speaker 4: I started watching the Office a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2: Right, I love the Office.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the best shows I've seen. When Holly
Speaker 4: Flax was transferred back to Old Branch and Michael Scott
Speaker 4: took it badly, I sympathized with him because when I
Speaker 4: went back to Woolengong a week ago, I felt Michael
Speaker 4: Scott's pain.
Speaker 2: Was it a rough plane ride from Perth back home?
Speaker 4: It wasn't it. I just didn't want to leave.
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. You like sad the whole plane
Speaker 2: ride where you're like.
Speaker 4: Yep, because I didn't want to leave Perth and I
Speaker 4: didn't want to leave Sarah either. Sarah's the name of
Speaker 4: the woman from Perth.
Speaker 2: Right, did you move to Perth for her?
Speaker 4: Of course I would.
Speaker 2: Are you looking at doing that?
Speaker 4: Yep?
Speaker 1: Path has nice weather as well, beautiful beaches. I lived
Speaker 1: in Perpose six.
Speaker 4: Months and it's more affordable than here.
Speaker 2: It is just accommodation and living.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well they need people in Perth, don't they. They've
Speaker 2: got a struggle with like people for jobs and that
Speaker 2: they're really trying to find people. So you could go
Speaker 2: over there, maybe get a job, maybe live with Sarah.
Speaker 2: Whether you've got what like three months you can start
Speaker 2: planning stuff, put stuff into motion.
Speaker 4: Start playing what to move over there? That's a bit
Speaker 4: too too soon.
Speaker 3: And I are hopefully like you, but we we go
Speaker 3: from zero to one hundred, both our.
Speaker 2: Partners who went from it? I moved in what five months?
Speaker 3: Yeah? My partner, Michael, he moved into my apartment basically
Speaker 3: two months.
Speaker 2: He was within two months. It was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we moved quickly.
Speaker 4: Impressive, you know. And I could not but notice that
Speaker 4: you bear a ring. I do bear congratulations.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he proposed in October?
Speaker 4: Ah, what day?
Speaker 1: It was a Saturday?
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't tell me, let me guess. It was the fifteenth,
Speaker 5: the fifth?
Speaker 1: Was it the fifth?
Speaker 2: Fifteenth?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 1: What's the fifteenth of October?
Speaker 4: That was my brother's wedding day.
Speaker 1: Oh, his wedding.
Speaker 4: It was a blast for the most part.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you mean for the most part? Was
Speaker 3: there a part of it that you didn't love?
Speaker 4: Weddings don't excite me that much?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 4: Why I feel the same, bro, because the only wedding
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to is my own.
Speaker 1: Excited for your wedding too.
Speaker 4: It's because you see, I realized something some time ago.
Speaker 4: When you keep when you always put others before yourself,
Speaker 4: and you never put yourself first, Eventually you'll be left
Speaker 4: behind and eventually forgotten about.
Speaker 1: Oh I don't think that's I think.
Speaker 4: That you've got a lot of my old school friends
Speaker 4: for my year have now. I have now settled down
Speaker 4: and got kids now, and I feel somewhat left behind.
Speaker 2: How old? How old are you?
Speaker 4: I'll be twenty nine and twelve days have birthday?
Speaker 1: What happened? Birthday for twelve days?
Speaker 2: Time? Twenty nine? Young? And you've got heaps ahead of ya. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you've got heaps of time.
Speaker 4: I kind of am Do you see myself getting married
Speaker 4: sometime in my thirties?
Speaker 2: Well, how do you, Matt, I'm twenty seven. I think
Speaker 2: the same. I'm in my mid thirties. I've still got
Speaker 2: like I said, like you've see it like keeps it
Speaker 2: life to live.
Speaker 1: I think thirty four is like the perfect age to
Speaker 1: settle down.
Speaker 4: Yeah it is, that's what.
Speaker 1: Do you think?
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 4: I didn't see it that way?
Speaker 2: Well, think about it, like you want to when you've
Speaker 2: settled down, you want to like have achieved everything in
Speaker 2: your career, do everything that you want to travel everything,
Speaker 2: and you just want to like focus on you know,
Speaker 2: your partner, your wedding and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: So I think, yeah, give myself seven years. I think
Speaker 2: that's a reasonable amount of time.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're going to the UK soon to film
Speaker 3: a TV show, like, you know, You've got amazing things.
Speaker 1: Going on, So yeah, I would say that I do.
Speaker 3: I mean it's definitely something that I feel as well,
Speaker 3: like as as we do get older. I just obviously
Speaker 3: turn thirty last year, and yeah, like a few of
Speaker 3: my friends have like started settling down, and it gets hard,
Speaker 3: right because like people move to different areas, it's harder
Speaker 3: to meet people.
Speaker 1: People's schedules are busier.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I know, I think it's something that everyone
Speaker 3: faces grow when we grow up and hit out thirty.
Speaker 2: But I think women as well are on their actual
Speaker 2: natural body clock as well because they need to have
Speaker 2: children from a certain age.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ye is having it's something that you want.
Speaker 4: To do sometime. I haven't been too keen on it
Speaker 4: because of the expenses, but because a lot of them
Speaker 4: in this world are still keen on having kids, I
Speaker 4: am open to it.
Speaker 2: Right, you don I google it cost a million dollars
Speaker 2: to have a kid to the age of eighteen over
Speaker 2: just over a million.
Speaker 1: That's over.
Speaker 2: You know, school fees, feeding them.
Speaker 4: A maximum of two. If she keeps pushing me for
Speaker 4: a third, The answer is no, that expensive.
Speaker 1: I mean after your TV career, you're going to be
Speaker 1: set up.
Speaker 4: Yep, because I kind of preferred of my if my
Speaker 4: kids had wealthy.
Speaker 3: Parents, well yeah, I mean ideally, ideally.
Speaker 2: I would as well.
Speaker 3: But it's expensive living around here, isn't it.
Speaker 4: I guess what I would never live in Sydney.
Speaker 1: Sydney is extortionere, and so.
Speaker 4: Is Woollongong for that matter. How far out is woman
Speaker 4: at least ninety minutes right Woolgong is now a miniature Sydney.
Speaker 4: A lot of apartment buildings are being built right now,
Speaker 4: a lot of people are moving down there.
Speaker 2: And what's drawing him to there?
Speaker 4: What's the Honestly, I don't really see the appeal anymore
Speaker 4: because I've been there my entire life. I've never moved.
Speaker 1: So you're ready to spread your wings?
Speaker 4: Yeah, to Perth, That's what I plan to do.
Speaker 1: But he's also going to the UK. There's a lot
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 4: My mother advised me to put off buying a place
Speaker 4: until after this awesome production.
Speaker 1: That makes sense absolutely.
Speaker 3: I remember talking to you last year some time we
Speaker 3: spoke on the phone and you told me before Sarah
Speaker 3: that there was a Canadian girl who you were kind
Speaker 3: of talking with. Yeah, do you want to tell us
Speaker 3: about that?
Speaker 4: Sure, we've been talking for like almost two years.
Speaker 2: Now, you're still talking to her.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The thing is, even though I have been wanting,
Speaker 4: even though i've I really would like to give her
Speaker 4: a chance. I just don't think it would be easy
Speaker 4: because she lives in Canada. I live. I live here,
Speaker 4: and even if we tried to make it work, it
Speaker 4: would be extremely hard. It would be and very costly.
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 2: I had a long distance with a girl in America
Speaker 2: at one stage during COVID lockdown, so I couldn't even
Speaker 2: leave Australia and it was it was difficult doing that.
Speaker 2: It was very difficult. So I could imagine, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't handle long disiness relationships that well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 4: Because my love language is all five of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, hard because.
Speaker 4: I'm only interested in a traditional relationship, not something casual,
Speaker 4: because casual relationships to me are a joke.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it depends what you're looking for, But
Speaker 3: I mean I feel the same way, I'm always like
Speaker 3: end up settling.
Speaker 2: I mean, casual relationships come and go in your life
Speaker 2: you can't control with the other person once.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 4: But also the other thing is, I'm one of the
Speaker 4: few men that is not even interested remotely in having coitus.
Speaker 1: What's coitas?
Speaker 4: Sex?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: Ever, preferably ever? But but but I would only have
Speaker 4: sex with a woman if the relationship is serious enough
Speaker 4: and if it's stable enough.
Speaker 1: Right, that makes sense.
Speaker 3: That makes sense when you're more comfortable and you know
Speaker 3: it's like maybe forever potentially how long.
Speaker 2: Into a relationship, then you reckon just once you feel it.
Speaker 4: Out, I don't know, you.
Speaker 2: Feel it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a good Did you ever get a
Speaker 3: chance to meet the Canadian girl in person?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Not in person?
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a lot of face.
Speaker 4: Timing, yep, facetimed many times.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: But also the other thing is I'm I'm there not
Speaker 4: finding someone in my own country absolutely, because if I
Speaker 4: moved overseas, that means I'd have to sell everything I
Speaker 4: own and close my bank accounts and shut down everything
Speaker 4: else I have, and that means losing my ties and
Speaker 4: connections here.
Speaker 2: I don't think it means females phones.
Speaker 1: The internet is a great thing, right.
Speaker 2: Well, i'd find that exciting going to another country and
Speaker 2: you're starting again.
Speaker 4: I would only go to another country only for work
Speaker 4: or for a holiday, and that's it.
Speaker 2: Not to live nah.
Speaker 1: I mean you've not made it easy for yourself, have you?
Speaker 3: There was a Canadian girl Perth's like very far away?
Speaker 3: Has there been anyone who you've kind of spoken to
Speaker 3: in Sydney?
Speaker 4: Has hardly anyone to meet in Sydney? Right?
Speaker 2: Do you use dating apps?
Speaker 4: Nope, because there's no help.
Speaker 2: Ever, you've never used one?
Speaker 4: I have. I have used them, but they've been very unreliable.
Speaker 2: I'm not a big advocate. I say that a lot
Speaker 2: on the podcast.
Speaker 1: A girl you met on a dating app? I'm sure
Speaker 1: you told me.
Speaker 4: There was, but we didn't really have a connection, right,
Speaker 4: which I predicted you did?
Speaker 1: You felt it intuitively?
Speaker 2: People on dating apps are just really for sometimes I
Speaker 2: find quitas?
Speaker 4: Was it?
Speaker 2: Quitas? Yus? I like that? Now I'm going to use that.
Speaker 3: What's a red flag that you found with like dating people? Like,
Speaker 3: has there been an thing that anyone who you've dated
Speaker 3: has done where you're like a red flag?
Speaker 1: That's no from me?
Speaker 4: If she's unemployed, if she's older than me by a
Speaker 4: certain number of years, right, Hell?
Speaker 3: Hell?
Speaker 4: Hell? Old?
Speaker 2: Is that? Because I've dated ten years older than me
Speaker 2: and that was a huge red.
Speaker 4: Flag eight to ten years I cannot.
Speaker 2: Do Yeah, well I did it. It's not it's not doable.
Speaker 4: No matter how many times I try to help someone,
Speaker 4: Nobody accepts my help.
Speaker 1: Ah, what makes you feel that way?
Speaker 4: Because people are too stubborn to accept Hell that stubborn.
Speaker 2: She literally told me that.
Speaker 3: As I told him that that on the way here,
Speaker 3: I was like, you're so stubborn, but I would find
Speaker 3: you stubborn, Michael, I reckon, you would be.
Speaker 1: I think we're all stubborn. I think we're in a
Speaker 1: room people.
Speaker 4: It's part of it's part of being a human.
Speaker 3: I thought you're going to say it's part of having
Speaker 3: a podcast.
Speaker 4: No, it's just part of being a human.
Speaker 3: True. But then, if you know, I think, I think
Speaker 3: the best thing is when you're stubborn and then you
Speaker 3: realize that you're being stubborn and then you decide to
Speaker 3: actually be flexible for the greater good.
Speaker 2: And it's just literally talking right to me right now.
Speaker 2: You know, honest, you're very stubborn, and I don't know
Speaker 2: when you took Sarah out on the dates. Did you pay?
Speaker 4: Of course it did.
Speaker 1: Did you open the doors.
Speaker 4: Yes, pull a chair out for her yes?
Speaker 1: Did you get her a corsage yes?
Speaker 2: Did you wear your best suit yes?
Speaker 1: Did you compliment her?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Is there anything miss gentleman? Is there anything ask for miss?
Speaker 2: For our guys listening, this is how you treat a woman,
Speaker 2: and for our girls listening, settle for nothing less.
Speaker 4: I reckon, absolutely, don't sell. Only go for a woman
Speaker 4: that's that's right for you.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, of course, you know.
Speaker 3: I think when you meet someone you can kind of
Speaker 3: tell if you're into them, right, you get butterflies.
Speaker 4: Actually, I can't really tell if a woman's into me
Speaker 4: or not.
Speaker 1: It's hard sometimes it is.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you need them to actually tell you and say
Speaker 3: I'm into you to kind of get a good gauge.
Speaker 4: I don't think any woman would ever have the guys
Speaker 4: to tell me much a sentence.
Speaker 1: I think they would.
Speaker 2: What we always say is you should focus more. If
Speaker 2: you're into them, then they're into you. You should be
Speaker 2: worried about how you feel because you could be like
Speaker 2: so focused on if they're worried. If I'm worried if
Speaker 2: they're into you, and forget that you know, if you
Speaker 2: like them or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see.
Speaker 3: So you go on a first day and instead of
Speaker 3: worrying about what they're thinking, you go, do I like this?
Speaker 2: Do I actually like you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Because then you then you worry less about trying to
Speaker 3: impress and you focus more on how you're actually feeling.
Speaker 4: And then girls will love it when you know I
Speaker 4: don't actually have any ways of trying to impress a woman.
Speaker 3: You don't guess you doling out the hip.
Speaker 1: I'm impressed.
Speaker 4: It's not me trying to impress them. They're just me
Speaker 4: being a gentleman.
Speaker 3: They're impressive because sometimes in this day and age, we
Speaker 3: go on I mean I personally have gone on dates
Speaker 3: with men who aren't very chivalrous. Yeah, when you meet
Speaker 3: a guy who's super chiv chivalrous, you're like, wow, thank
Speaker 3: you God.
Speaker 2: Would you take me for a guard that would be chivalrous?
Speaker 4: Huh?
Speaker 2: Did you think i'd do that? Pool chairs out and
Speaker 2: open doors for girls.
Speaker 4: I haven't really interacted with you very much, so it's just.
Speaker 1: From like, just from looking at that. Do you think
Speaker 1: he'd be that type of guy chivalrous.
Speaker 4: It's hard to tell.
Speaker 3: You said before, you're very straight. To the point that straight.
Speaker 4: I also have to be considered other people's feelings as well.
Speaker 2: No, we're all friends, because I was going to say,
Speaker 2: you're probably surprised, but I'm quite chivalrous. Is that right
Speaker 2: as well? Yeah, like, yeah, it's hard to find these days,
Speaker 2: and yes, I know when you find a guard that's
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 4: And also the other thing is that I kind of
Speaker 4: prefer someone in her thirties.
Speaker 1: Okay, how old is Sarah thirty one? Perfect?
Speaker 2: Perfect man.
Speaker 4: I would never go for anyone under twenty five.
Speaker 1: I think that's smart.
Speaker 4: Well do you want under the pun?
Speaker 2: Why's that?
Speaker 4: I'll explain, anyone under the age of twenty five is
Speaker 4: still a girl, and their tastes in men are so terrible.
Speaker 1: Ain't that the truth?
Speaker 3: My tastes in men has drastically improved from my twenties
Speaker 3: to my thirties.
Speaker 2: You know, they reckon though, that men mature are slower
Speaker 2: than women. So yes, I've noticed that, So imagine the
Speaker 2: guy at that age as well.
Speaker 4: That's why I sometimes say, when it comes to men,
Speaker 4: things like maturity take time, absolutely, because women have the
Speaker 4: ability to mature more quickly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: I find my maturity growing with stuff that happens to
Speaker 2: me in life, you know, like life lessons, like stuff
Speaker 2: you come across in life always matures you. So the
Speaker 2: more you do, more immature I find, of course. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What's a non negotiable when it comes to dating.
Speaker 4: There are four important boxes that she has to tick.
Speaker 4: She has to come from a good, loving family that
Speaker 4: isn't dysfunctional.
Speaker 2: So they've got good family morals, just like my parents do.
Speaker 4: She has to be a beautiful, loving woman who has
Speaker 4: a pure heart that and has no malicious intent.
Speaker 2: It's a good one.
Speaker 4: Thirdly, she has to handle being the wife of a
Speaker 4: famous actor, which means that she would sometimes accompany me
Speaker 4: to premiers and even be spotted in the public eye
Speaker 4: with me.
Speaker 2: That's very important.
Speaker 1: Could get peraps shots yeah, yep.
Speaker 4: Which means I would also be required to because other
Speaker 4: women for scenes and films or shows.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: That's a tricky one.
Speaker 2: How would you go with that?
Speaker 4: Anna?
Speaker 1: I would hate it.
Speaker 2: Even if it's work, it's literally work.
Speaker 1: I would still hate it.
Speaker 2: I reckon, I could do it? Could you do it
Speaker 2: if your partner?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're very jealous How do you go with jealousy?
Speaker 1: Oh wait, did you say your last one?
Speaker 4: The fourth one is she has to be cool with
Speaker 4: a face that I'm best that my best friend is
Speaker 4: a woman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fine. Partners that mind, they're cool with it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Matt and I are very jealous. So I don't actually
Speaker 3: know if we'd be able to have partners who are
Speaker 3: actors who have to kiss in scenes.
Speaker 1: How do you go with jealousy?
Speaker 4: I cope fairly well with it.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you.
Speaker 3: Don't get jealous of your partner hanging out with other men.
Speaker 4: They're just they're just friendships.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you watch Sarah kiss another guy then for
Speaker 2: the movie? If she was an actress actor, I.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't be jealous of that. It's just part of the role.
Speaker 4: But also another reason why I wouldn't forbid my partner
Speaker 4: from having friendships with other guys or seeing them is
Speaker 4: because everyone needs friends, and because it's not my place
Speaker 4: to decide what you can and can't do.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, because relationships don't work if you can't trust your partner. Absolutely,
Speaker 5: And I actually saw a clip recently from an episode
Speaker 5: of Friends where Ross was married to a British woman
Speaker 5: named Emily, she said that she'd be happier if she
Speaker 5: knew where he was all the time. I would not
Speaker 5: be able to tolerate that, because that's that's an extreme
Speaker 5: invasion of a man's privacy and also and it's also
Speaker 5: a very clear indication that she does not trust him
Speaker 5: at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So what happens though, I like to know where
Speaker 3: my partner is?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what has like a rough idea and I.
Speaker 3: Tell him, I'll just say, okay, babe, I'm going to
Speaker 3: the podcasting studio, have a great day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's fine.
Speaker 2: But what happens if the trust had already been portrayed
Speaker 2: it in a way that she didn't feel comfortable and
Speaker 2: she wanted to know where like your partner is, do
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And vice versa, So like
Speaker 2: something had happened and the trust wasn't completely there. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying someone cheated, but something happened where the other
Speaker 2: one's feeling a little bit insecure, insecure, and then they
Speaker 2: wanted to know just to double check. I don't know,
Speaker 2: correcting the relationships probably done at that point, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because the trust is gone, I guess in a way.
Speaker 4: Also, dating is literally one of the hardest things that
Speaker 4: I've ever done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: That's why we started this podcast because it's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people have lots of trials and tribulations, and I
Speaker 3: guess every experience you go through it kind.
Speaker 1: Of helps you and gives you knowledge and helps you
Speaker 1: with what.
Speaker 2: I was saying before, It matures you up a bit
Speaker 2: and you learn life lessons.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I suppose it does.
Speaker 1: Michael.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming on our podcast. This
Speaker 3: has been incredible. We're so excited to have an update
Speaker 3: from you, and we can't wait to see your acting
Speaker 3: career especially.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see that.
Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on, Michael. Good to see you again.
Speaker 4: Thank you guys, thanks so much having me on. It
Speaker 4: was a pleasure.
Speaker 2: The pleasure was ours.