WEBVTT - Trump’s peace hinges on Hamas disarming. So what now?

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<v Speaker 1>From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Christinamio.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Friday, October tenth, twenty twenty five. The Victorian Director

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<v Speaker 1>of Public Prosecutions says, just as Christopher Beale got it

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<v Speaker 1>wrong when he found mushroom killer Aaron Patterson would spend

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<v Speaker 1>most of her life sentence in solitary confinement. The DPP

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<v Speaker 1>is appealing the sentence, which they say is manifestly inadequate

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<v Speaker 1>and should be revised. Patterson was convicted in July of

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<v Speaker 1>killing three elderly relatives and attempting to murder another at

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<v Speaker 1>a family lunch. In twenty twenty three. She's confirmed shell

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<v Speaker 1>lodge and appeal against the convictions. The Prime Minister's office

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<v Speaker 1>went around Jim Chalmers for advice on backlash to the

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<v Speaker 1>government's plan to tax superannuation. They wanted to know if

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<v Speaker 1>a petition with twenty thousand signatures would affect the policy.

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<v Speaker 1>Those stories are live right now at the Australian dot

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<v Speaker 1>com dot au. Peace in the Middle East hinges on

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<v Speaker 1>one thing hamas disarming. There was jubilation across Israel and

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<v Speaker 1>Gaza on Thursday as Donald Trump announced the militant group

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<v Speaker 1>had agreed to the first phase of a historic peace plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they have to follow through releasing the Israeli hostages

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<v Speaker 1>and laying down their weapons for good. Today our correspondents

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<v Speaker 1>joined me amid the celebration and caution. For two years,

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<v Speaker 1>the skies over the Mediterranean coast in the Middle East

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<v Speaker 1>have been pierced by missiles and air sirens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>the sun rose on Thursday October nine, the sounds of

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<v Speaker 1>war gave way to joy in Israel beside and in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason the promise of peace at last.

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump has announced Israel and Hamas have signed off

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<v Speaker 2>on what he is calling the first fees of his

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<v Speaker 2>peace plan. Trump making the announcement.

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<v Speaker 1>Joanni Bashan and Liam Mendes are in Israel for the

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<v Speaker 1>Australian Liam Listeners to the Front heard a few days

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<v Speaker 1>ago about Hostages Square in Tel Aviv and the quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>solemn atmosphere there as the second anniversary of the October

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<v Speaker 1>seven attacks approached. What's it like there now.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's an incredibly different scene right now, Chrissy singing, dancing,

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<v Speaker 3>a huge amount of emotion and excitement. There was a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of praise to US President Donald Trump. People wearing

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<v Speaker 3>maga hats. It was even one woman wearing a Trump

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<v Speaker 3>paper mache mask. But just after we arrived at around

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<v Speaker 3>six am, there was one elderly man who was essentially

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<v Speaker 3>marched out by palice. He was holding a sign with

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of faces, one of them was Benjamin et Yahu.

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<v Speaker 3>On there that there was a bit of a scuffle

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<v Speaker 3>between him and police as he was taken away, but

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<v Speaker 3>apart from that, it was just a lot of emotion

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of excitements.

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<v Speaker 1>The agreement reached on Thursday is being called phase one

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<v Speaker 1>of Donald Trump's twenty point piece plan. That means on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>Hamas will release forty eight hostages who've been held in

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<v Speaker 1>Gaza since they were taken captive on October seven, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three. But not all of the hostages survived their ordeal.

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<v Speaker 1>Their bodies are expected to be returned to Israel on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>In return, Israel will maintain a presence in about half

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<v Speaker 1>of the Gaza strip until the hostages are safely home

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<v Speaker 1>and released terror linked prisoners currently held in Israeli. P

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred trucks carrying aid supplies will also be allowed

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<v Speaker 1>into Gaza every day. Donald Trump praised negotiators from Qatar

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<v Speaker 1>and Egypt in an interview with Fox News for their

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<v Speaker 1>help in sealing the deal.

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<v Speaker 4>The whole world came together, to be honest, so many

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<v Speaker 4>countries that you wouldn't have even thought of it. The

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<v Speaker 4>world has come together around this deal, and it's been

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<v Speaker 4>really an amazing period of time and so great for Israel,

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<v Speaker 4>so great for Muslims, for the Arab countries. This is

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<v Speaker 4>more than Gaza, this is peace in the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 4>an incredible thing.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the significance of this Phase one agreement to the

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<v Speaker 1>Israeli people, Yonnie.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think critical to the Phase one deal is

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<v Speaker 2>the release of all the hostages, which is what the

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli people have been calling for since the start of

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<v Speaker 2>this war in October seven. I mean, really, that was

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<v Speaker 2>the essence of what all the fighting was about. It

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<v Speaker 2>was that Hamas had conducted an invasion upon Israel, slaughtered

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<v Speaker 2>a very large number of people, and then taken two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty one people captive to Gaza. And all

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<v Speaker 2>of the efforts with regards to this war have been

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<v Speaker 2>really twofold. One has been to eradicate Commas, but first

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<v Speaker 2>and foremost it's been to bring home the hostages. So

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<v Speaker 2>the significance of this steal just cannot be overstated to

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<v Speaker 2>the Israeli people. The people I've spoken to today have

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<v Speaker 2>said that this was a day that was always going

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<v Speaker 2>to come, although they feel that it's one that could

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<v Speaker 2>have come a lot sooner. Have the politics and the

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<v Speaker 2>diplomacy been aligned at certain points along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Liam, You've spent time with the hostages families on your

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<v Speaker 1>various trips to the Middle East over the last two years.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you think they're feeling right now.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a real mixed bag of emotions here. On the

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<v Speaker 3>positive side, people are coming home, but some of those

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<v Speaker 3>people are tragically deceased. Families are finally going to get

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<v Speaker 3>the bodies of their loved ones. And then there's other

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<v Speaker 3>families that are going to have their relatives come back,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're going to be psychologically damaged. Over seven hundred

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<v Speaker 3>days in horrendous conditions inside tunnels, that's going to have

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<v Speaker 3>an enormous toll on the psychological welfare of these hostages.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't the end of the road at all. There's

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<v Speaker 3>still years and years of recovery ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump said on Thursday, his confidence subsequent phases of

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<v Speaker 1>the peace plan will come to fruition.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're going to see people getting along, and

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<v Speaker 4>you'll see gas are being rebuilt. We're forming a council,

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<v Speaker 4>the Council of Peace. People are going to be taken

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<v Speaker 4>care of. It's going to be a different world. I think.

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<v Speaker 4>Really the Middle East came together amazingly, they came together.

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<v Speaker 1>You know they are. But statements made by Egyptian officials

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<v Speaker 1>hinted that some of the details were yet to be

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<v Speaker 1>hashed out. That includes how Hamas will disarm and how

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<v Speaker 1>Gaza will be governed following the withdrawal of Israeli forces

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<v Speaker 1>and Hamas militants who've been promised if they choose.

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<v Speaker 4>To lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Jonni. The agreement reached on Thursday only represents a fraction

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<v Speaker 1>of the twenty point plan presented by Donald Trump. How

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<v Speaker 1>confident are you the remaining parts of that plan will

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<v Speaker 1>come to fruition.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's certainly everyone's hope on the ground here.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the point of greatest contention is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be will Hamas willingly disarm. It's all well and good

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<v Speaker 2>for an agreement to come about for the return of

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<v Speaker 2>the hostages, and certainly that is what's going to make

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<v Speaker 2>the Israeli public happy. It's going to result in the

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<v Speaker 2>israel Defense Forces pulling back their troops, their artillery, the drones,

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<v Speaker 2>and the border crossing at Rapha is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>reopened to allow the entry and exit of Palestinians and

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<v Speaker 2>of AID, and there will be an enormous surgeon Aid

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<v Speaker 2>going into the territory. So all of those things are

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful for the first phase, but in terms of a

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<v Speaker 2>broader outlook for the future of the Middle East, it's

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<v Speaker 2>really going to hinge on whether Hamas plays any role

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<v Speaker 2>in that territory and the conditions that have been placed

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<v Speaker 2>on this cease fire or on any cease fire throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the two years of warring Gaza, at least from the

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli side, is that Hamas needs to put down his arms.

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<v Speaker 2>And the announcement that was received overnight, while being celebrated

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<v Speaker 2>widely across Israel and certainly in other parts of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't address that question. So that's something that still

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be sorted out, and we expect to hear

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<v Speaker 2>more on that in the coming days.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Why the work at home is only half done back

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<v Speaker 1>home in Australia, Jewish leaders have warned optimism over the

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<v Speaker 1>Middle East peace deal isn't a proxy for action against

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<v Speaker 1>rising anti semitism. Liberal Minister Julian Lisa and Labour MP

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Burns have been named as winners of this year's

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<v Speaker 1>McKinnon Price for Political Leadership for their roles in fighting

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<v Speaker 1>antisemitism over the past two years. Lisa told The Australian

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<v Speaker 1>anti Semitism in Australia is at crisis.

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<v Speaker 5>Levels, but there's a very deep support for Israel and

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<v Speaker 5>a very deep recognition of the need to act strongly

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<v Speaker 5>and swiftly to deal with anti semitism crisis we face

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<v Speaker 5>in Australia, a crisis that I sadly don't think will

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<v Speaker 5>abate even if there is a peace deal undertaken.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see the full interview with Julian Lisa and

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Burns at the Australian dot Com dot au. Just lastly, Yonnie,

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday in Sydney, we saw that a pro Palestine

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<v Speaker 1>march will go ahead in some capacity on Sunday, despite

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<v Speaker 1>the Court's rejection of the Palestine Action Group's argument that

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<v Speaker 1>Israel has committed a genocide in Gaza. What does this

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<v Speaker 1>mean for social cohesion in Australia and around the globe?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think, well, it certainly doesn't help social cohesion

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia with regards to what has been a surging

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<v Speaker 2>issue of anti Semitism the past two years.

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<v Speaker 3>But what's always.

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<v Speaker 2>Remained very confusing, at least for me, with regard to

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<v Speaker 2>this protest, is why they haven't been out in force

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<v Speaker 2>calling for Hamas to accept this deal. This deal to

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<v Speaker 2>release the hostages and to end the war has been

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<v Speaker 2>on the table for a long enough period of time,

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<v Speaker 2>and instead we've had people rallying for protests with regard

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<v Speaker 2>to a so called genocide occurring at the hands of Israel. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>what these protesters should have been doing is hitting the

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<v Speaker 2>streets and calling for an end to the war and

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<v Speaker 2>calling for Hamas to sign the deal. But they haven't

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<v Speaker 2>done that, So I think that exposes their true intentions,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think no one would be fooled into thinking

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<v Speaker 2>the work on anti Semitism in Australia is done in Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>Liam and I have been walking around speaking to people

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<v Speaker 2>about the issues that are going on here and the

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<v Speaker 2>first thing they say when we tell them we're from

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<v Speaker 2>Australia is what the hell is going on in your country?

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<v Speaker 2>And they've expressed genuine disappointment and regret at what is

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<v Speaker 2>happening in Australia with regard to anti Semitism. They regard

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<v Speaker 2>Australia as an unsafe environment for them as Israelis, and

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<v Speaker 2>more broadly for Jews in general, and that is in

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<v Speaker 2>large part a criticism of a government than hasn't been

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<v Speaker 2>able to reign in this issue adequately.

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<v Speaker 3>What Yoon is describing is in an isolated incident, and

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's happened a lot more this trip

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<v Speaker 3>compared to some of our previous trips, so it's certainly

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<v Speaker 3>not an isolated incident. For example, I was at Disingolf

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<v Speaker 3>Fountain on Wednesday and this woman, she was seventy five

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<v Speaker 3>years old. She comes up to me and as, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>where are you from? I was taking some photos and

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<v Speaker 3>chatting to people, and I say, I'm from Australian and

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<v Speaker 3>she physically scoffed at that. So that's the reaction to

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<v Speaker 3>that a lot of people have had when we've told

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<v Speaker 3>them where we're from.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Bashan and Liam Mendez are in Israel for the Australian.

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<v Speaker 1>You can read the latest on the Middle East piece

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<v Speaker 1>deal right now at the Australian dot com dot au