1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Christinamio. 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: It's Friday, October tenth, twenty twenty five. The Victorian Director 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: of Public Prosecutions says, just as Christopher Beale got it 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: wrong when he found mushroom killer Aaron Patterson would spend 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: most of her life sentence in solitary confinement. The DPP 6 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: is appealing the sentence, which they say is manifestly inadequate 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: and should be revised. Patterson was convicted in July of 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: killing three elderly relatives and attempting to murder another at 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: a family lunch. In twenty twenty three. She's confirmed shell 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: lodge and appeal against the convictions. The Prime Minister's office 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: went around Jim Chalmers for advice on backlash to the 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 1: government's plan to tax superannuation. They wanted to know if 13 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: a petition with twenty thousand signatures would affect the policy. 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: Those stories are live right now at the Australian dot 15 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: com dot au. Peace in the Middle East hinges on 16 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: one thing hamas disarming. There was jubilation across Israel and 17 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: Gaza on Thursday as Donald Trump announced the militant group 18 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: had agreed to the first phase of a historic peace plan. 19 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: Now they have to follow through releasing the Israeli hostages 20 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: and laying down their weapons for good. Today our correspondents 21 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: joined me amid the celebration and caution. For two years, 22 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: the skies over the Mediterranean coast in the Middle East 23 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: have been pierced by missiles and air sirens. But as 24 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: the sun rose on Thursday October nine, the sounds of 25 00:01:54,400 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: war gave way to joy in Israel beside and in Gaza. 26 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: The reason the promise of peace at last. 27 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: President Trump has announced Israel and Hamas have signed off 28 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: on what he is calling the first fees of his 29 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: peace plan. Trump making the announcement. 30 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: Joanni Bashan and Liam Mendes are in Israel for the 31 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: Australian Liam Listeners to the Front heard a few days 32 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: ago about Hostages Square in Tel Aviv and the quiet, 33 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: solemn atmosphere there as the second anniversary of the October 34 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: seven attacks approached. What's it like there now. 35 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: Well, it's an incredibly different scene right now, Chrissy singing, dancing, 36 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: a huge amount of emotion and excitement. There was a 37 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: lot of praise to US President Donald Trump. People wearing 38 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: maga hats. It was even one woman wearing a Trump 39 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: paper mache mask. But just after we arrived at around 40 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 3: six am, there was one elderly man who was essentially 41 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: marched out by palice. He was holding a sign with 42 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: a bunch of faces, one of them was Benjamin et Yahu. 43 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: On there that there was a bit of a scuffle 44 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: between him and police as he was taken away, but 45 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: apart from that, it was just a lot of emotion 46 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 3: and a lot of excitements. 47 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: The agreement reached on Thursday is being called phase one 48 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump's twenty point piece plan. That means on Sunday, 49 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: Hamas will release forty eight hostages who've been held in 50 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: Gaza since they were taken captive on October seven, twenty 51 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: twenty three. But not all of the hostages survived their ordeal. 52 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: Their bodies are expected to be returned to Israel on Monday. 53 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: In return, Israel will maintain a presence in about half 54 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: of the Gaza strip until the hostages are safely home 55 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: and released terror linked prisoners currently held in Israeli. P 56 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: six hundred trucks carrying aid supplies will also be allowed 57 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: into Gaza every day. Donald Trump praised negotiators from Qatar 58 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: and Egypt in an interview with Fox News for their 59 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: help in sealing the deal. 60 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 4: The whole world came together, to be honest, so many 61 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 4: countries that you wouldn't have even thought of it. The 62 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: world has come together around this deal, and it's been 63 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 4: really an amazing period of time and so great for Israel, 64 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: so great for Muslims, for the Arab countries. This is 65 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: more than Gaza, this is peace in the Middle East, 66 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 4: an incredible thing. 67 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: What's the significance of this Phase one agreement to the 68 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: Israeli people, Yonnie. 69 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: Well, I think critical to the Phase one deal is 70 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: the release of all the hostages, which is what the 71 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: Israeli people have been calling for since the start of 72 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: this war in October seven. I mean, really, that was 73 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: the essence of what all the fighting was about. It 74 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: was that Hamas had conducted an invasion upon Israel, slaughtered 75 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: a very large number of people, and then taken two 76 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty one people captive to Gaza. And all 77 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: of the efforts with regards to this war have been 78 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 2: really twofold. One has been to eradicate Commas, but first 79 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: and foremost it's been to bring home the hostages. So 80 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: the significance of this steal just cannot be overstated to 81 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: the Israeli people. The people I've spoken to today have 82 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 2: said that this was a day that was always going 83 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: to come, although they feel that it's one that could 84 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: have come a lot sooner. Have the politics and the 85 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: diplomacy been aligned at certain points along the way. 86 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: Liam, You've spent time with the hostages families on your 87 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: various trips to the Middle East over the last two years. 88 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: How do you think they're feeling right now. 89 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 3: There's a real mixed bag of emotions here. On the 90 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: positive side, people are coming home, but some of those 91 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: people are tragically deceased. Families are finally going to get 92 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: the bodies of their loved ones. And then there's other 93 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: families that are going to have their relatives come back, 94 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 3: but they're going to be psychologically damaged. Over seven hundred 95 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: days in horrendous conditions inside tunnels, that's going to have 96 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: an enormous toll on the psychological welfare of these hostages. 97 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 3: This isn't the end of the road at all. There's 98 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: still years and years of recovery ahead. 99 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump said on Thursday, his confidence subsequent phases of 100 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: the peace plan will come to fruition. 101 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: I think you're going to see people getting along, and 102 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 4: you'll see gas are being rebuilt. We're forming a council, 103 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 4: the Council of Peace. People are going to be taken 104 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: care of. It's going to be a different world. I think. 105 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 4: Really the Middle East came together amazingly, they came together. 106 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: You know they are. But statements made by Egyptian officials 107 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: hinted that some of the details were yet to be 108 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: hashed out. That includes how Hamas will disarm and how 109 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: Gaza will be governed following the withdrawal of Israeli forces 110 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: and Hamas militants who've been promised if they choose. 111 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 4: To lead. 112 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: Jonni. The agreement reached on Thursday only represents a fraction 113 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: of the twenty point plan presented by Donald Trump. How 114 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: confident are you the remaining parts of that plan will 115 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: come to fruition. 116 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's certainly everyone's hope on the ground here. 117 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: I mean, the point of greatest contention is going to 118 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: be will Hamas willingly disarm. It's all well and good 119 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: for an agreement to come about for the return of 120 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: the hostages, and certainly that is what's going to make 121 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: the Israeli public happy. It's going to result in the 122 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: israel Defense Forces pulling back their troops, their artillery, the drones, 123 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: and the border crossing at Rapha is going to be 124 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: reopened to allow the entry and exit of Palestinians and 125 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: of AID, and there will be an enormous surgeon Aid 126 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: going into the territory. So all of those things are 127 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: wonderful for the first phase, but in terms of a 128 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: broader outlook for the future of the Middle East, it's 129 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: really going to hinge on whether Hamas plays any role 130 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: in that territory and the conditions that have been placed 131 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: on this cease fire or on any cease fire throughout 132 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: the two years of warring Gaza, at least from the 133 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: Israeli side, is that Hamas needs to put down his arms. 134 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: And the announcement that was received overnight, while being celebrated 135 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: widely across Israel and certainly in other parts of the world, 136 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: it doesn't address that question. So that's something that still 137 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: needs to be sorted out, and we expect to hear 138 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: more on that in the coming days. 139 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: Coming up. 140 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: Why the work at home is only half done back 141 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: home in Australia, Jewish leaders have warned optimism over the 142 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: Middle East peace deal isn't a proxy for action against 143 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: rising anti semitism. Liberal Minister Julian Lisa and Labour MP 144 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: Josh Burns have been named as winners of this year's 145 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: McKinnon Price for Political Leadership for their roles in fighting 146 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: antisemitism over the past two years. Lisa told The Australian 147 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: anti Semitism in Australia is at crisis. 148 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 5: Levels, but there's a very deep support for Israel and 149 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 5: a very deep recognition of the need to act strongly 150 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 5: and swiftly to deal with anti semitism crisis we face 151 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 5: in Australia, a crisis that I sadly don't think will 152 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 5: abate even if there is a peace deal undertaken. 153 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: You can see the full interview with Julian Lisa and 154 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: Josh Burns at the Australian dot Com dot au. Just lastly, Yonnie, 155 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: on Thursday in Sydney, we saw that a pro Palestine 156 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: march will go ahead in some capacity on Sunday, despite 157 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: the Court's rejection of the Palestine Action Group's argument that 158 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: Israel has committed a genocide in Gaza. What does this 159 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: mean for social cohesion in Australia and around the globe? 160 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: Do you think, well, it certainly doesn't help social cohesion 161 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: in Australia with regards to what has been a surging 162 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 2: issue of anti Semitism the past two years. 163 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 3: But what's always. 164 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: Remained very confusing, at least for me, with regard to 165 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: this protest, is why they haven't been out in force 166 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: calling for Hamas to accept this deal. This deal to 167 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 2: release the hostages and to end the war has been 168 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: on the table for a long enough period of time, 169 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: and instead we've had people rallying for protests with regard 170 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 2: to a so called genocide occurring at the hands of Israel. Really, 171 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: what these protesters should have been doing is hitting the 172 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: streets and calling for an end to the war and 173 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: calling for Hamas to sign the deal. But they haven't 174 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: done that, So I think that exposes their true intentions, 175 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: and I think no one would be fooled into thinking 176 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: the work on anti Semitism in Australia is done in Israel. 177 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: Liam and I have been walking around speaking to people 178 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: about the issues that are going on here and the 179 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: first thing they say when we tell them we're from 180 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: Australia is what the hell is going on in your country? 181 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: And they've expressed genuine disappointment and regret at what is 182 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: happening in Australia with regard to anti Semitism. They regard 183 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: Australia as an unsafe environment for them as Israelis, and 184 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: more broadly for Jews in general, and that is in 185 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: large part a criticism of a government than hasn't been 186 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: able to reign in this issue adequately. 187 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: What Yoon is describing is in an isolated incident, and 188 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 3: I feel like it's happened a lot more this trip 189 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: compared to some of our previous trips, so it's certainly 190 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: not an isolated incident. For example, I was at Disingolf 191 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: Fountain on Wednesday and this woman, she was seventy five 192 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 3: years old. She comes up to me and as, you know, 193 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: where are you from? I was taking some photos and 194 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: chatting to people, and I say, I'm from Australian and 195 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 3: she physically scoffed at that. So that's the reaction to 196 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: that a lot of people have had when we've told 197 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: them where we're from. 198 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: Johnny Bashan and Liam Mendez are in Israel for the Australian. 199 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: You can read the latest on the Middle East piece 200 00:11:49,360 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: deal right now at the Australian dot com dot au