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Speaker 1: Apoda, production, life stuff, life, parenting.

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Speaker 2: We're doing life together and we're just going to tell

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Speaker 2: you all about it.

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Speaker 1: I hate the word perimenopause. I can't We're not in menopause, Like,

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Speaker 3: What Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: To a bonus episode of Who Even Are We Now?

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Speaker 1: Monday's episode, we talked about money. After we stopped recording,

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Speaker 1: I realized that there was a part of my relationship

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Speaker 1: with money that I hadn't talked about. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I hadn't talked about it was because there was quite

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Speaker 1: a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of shame around.

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Speaker 1: It, and I've kind of over the years not really

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Speaker 1: talked about it. Will you ask me a question? And

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Speaker 1: the question was where do you think your relationship with

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Speaker 1: money has come from? And we kind of went back

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Speaker 1: to our child.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where it all starts, and then from that it

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Speaker 2: grows into different directions, you know, and then it connects

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Speaker 2: the dots to the relationship now, which is where we

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Speaker 2: are sort of headed with it. But I'm very impressed

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Speaker 2: at the fact that our own podcast, with our own

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Speaker 2: questions has led you here to a bonus episode to

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Speaker 2: talk about it, which is awesome.

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Speaker 1: And look, let's we share most of our episodes are

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Speaker 1: not very comfortable, but I think important to share. And

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Speaker 1: like we said on Monday, the shame stuff around money,

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Speaker 1: you don't talk about it when you're in it. If

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Speaker 1: you're going through a moment in time of not having.

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Speaker 3: Any money, hardship of any form, you don't talk.

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Speaker 1: About it until you're out of it because there's too

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Speaker 1: much shame.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do agree. I do definitely agree one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: I think there's different people. There are different people in

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Speaker 2: the way that they cope and the forms of like

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Speaker 2: attention and things like that, if we want to go

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Speaker 2: into that, there is certain people that don't cope with

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Speaker 2: holding it in until they've got something to sort of

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Speaker 2: talk about. Some people cope with sharing, right, and then

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Speaker 2: they sort of see it as like, you know, taking

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Speaker 2: it in different directions. For you, you shut down when

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Speaker 2: it comes to financials. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's a pride thing, yeah right, yeah, which is ego, right.

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Speaker 3: Pride is another form of ego.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which is interesting. I feel like these episodes

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Speaker 1: are like borderline therapy.

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Speaker 3: Shut it on my next job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, And maybe for some people it isn't

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Speaker 1: like that, you know, I've certainly seen plenty of people

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Speaker 1: on Facebook starting up go fundmees when times are hard

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Speaker 1: and things like that. That's not me to embarrass yeah,

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Speaker 1: to do that, But there's no shame in saying that

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Speaker 1: you're too proud to ask for help when help is needed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: especially when it comes to financials. So you might not

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Speaker 1: be like that in every aspect, but with that particular

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Speaker 1: aspect you're saying, when it comes to financials, my pride

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Speaker 1: is hurt. My ego is a little bit bru us,

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Speaker 1: which we all have, which it gets effected in so

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Speaker 1: many different ways. But for you, when it comes to financials,

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Speaker 3: A place Katie. But share with us, share share now

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Speaker 3: the time is to share.

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Speaker 1: So the part that I left out of Monday's episode

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Speaker 1: come from because I now don't enjoy payday and over

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Speaker 1: the years where it's been a job at a company

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Speaker 1: don't get very excited about being paid. And the reason

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Speaker 1: because in my brain it's the relationship between being paid

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Speaker 1: and oh but it's all going back out again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So in twenty ten I moved from the UK to Sydney,

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Speaker 1: so we move countries, which is a massive thing. Cut

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Speaker 1: along story short, didn't really bring much over because I

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Speaker 1: You don't realize how expensive that is when you've got

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Speaker 1: no cutlery, you got no plates, you got no bedding,

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Speaker 2: So you're now moving countries into one of our most

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and throw into the mix me having my visa

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Speaker 1: refused at the last minute. Right, this is after we

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Speaker 1: have packed, moved, the kids stay care, Jays signed the

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Speaker 1: contract for his job, We've booked our flights, we're going.

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Speaker 1: Jay has an Australian visa because he's Australian. Jay has

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Speaker 1: an Australian what's it called ja is an Australian.

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Speaker 3: Australian is what you're trying to say. Maybe you're trying

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Speaker 1: Yeah, citizen, that's the what our girl are also citizens

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Speaker 1: by descent. The case officer who was working on my

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Speaker 1: permanent visa to come over here, was flying through it

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Speaker 1: absolutely no problems, like it's all looking good, right, you

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Speaker 1: person's got MS. She could potentially cost the country this

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Speaker 1: So at the moment, my husband's able to come over

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Speaker 1: this stage, but I'm not. That bit of information just

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Speaker 1: explains why I wasn't able to work straight away. So

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Speaker 1: we moved over with not very much a really expensive

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Speaker 1: like Jay would get paid every cent of it was

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Speaker 1: because I couldn't afford to get the rego on the car,

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Speaker 1: I was like, what, it's like four hundred dollars or

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Speaker 1: So I jump on the bus. I had a car

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I was like, many people, Yes.

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Speaker 1: So many people do go through that, and.

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Speaker 2: You just and still going through it, like, yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: just wild.

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Speaker 1: It was close to Christmas and the Coal's ads were

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Speaker 3: They play them every year.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you know the Curtis Stone ad and

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Speaker 1: all of the things. And I remember watching that ad thinking,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jay had his fortieth birthday while we were in Sydney.

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Speaker 1: I thought, oh, I haven't even got a cake, Like

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Speaker 1: and my card declined. The biggest moment of shame was

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Speaker 1: when I bought the girl's first school uniforms. So we'd

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Speaker 1: they said, Okay, this is what they need. This is

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Speaker 1: the list for the school uniform. On the day where

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Speaker 1: and this is how much you need to pay. And

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Speaker 1: I remember that morning being like, I actually don't have that.

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Speaker 1: I went through the girl's piggy banks, so I had

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Speaker 3: I was maxed out.

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Speaker 1: I think I was after like something like thirty dollars

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Speaker 1: I went through their piggy banks, buring your mind. Just

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Speaker 3: Put coins in and then you.

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Speaker 1: You can't get it out. I took the money out

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Speaker 1: of their piggy banks, and I was one dollar short. Right.

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Speaker 1: I went to that school in my active weear and

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Speaker 1: I said to another one of the mums, I'm going

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Speaker 1: dollar for a locker. I don't suppearse you've got a

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I was like, that is I.

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Speaker 1: Borrowed a dollar pretending I was going to the gym

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Speaker 1: and I needed it for the lockers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean creative. I was like snaps to you.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I would have given you the dollar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you wouldn't think anything of anything that mum.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'd love to say to her, all these

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because the difference of not knowing what people's

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Speaker 2: know what that person's story is. Like that mum didn't

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Speaker 2: dollar to you was like probably life changing for you,

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Speaker 2: and probably to her it was yeah, sure.

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Speaker 1: And I said to her, I'll bring back to you.

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Speaker 1: I'll go and she was like, don't worry about it, doll, Like.

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Speaker 3: It's a dollar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that dollar meant that I could buy the

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Speaker 1: girl's first step at school uniforms. And I took those

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Speaker 1: school uniforms home and they put them on, super proud.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you have the tears as a mom

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Speaker 1: because you're looking at kids, and yes, the tears were

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Speaker 1: oh my good, there's I'm so Prodi going to school

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Speaker 1: all the rest of it, but also like, oh my God,

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Speaker 1: what I went through to get the money for that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it does it shows I think that of

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Speaker 2: you know, you go above and beyond for your kids

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Speaker 2: as well, no matter what the circumstance or the hardship

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