WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 13 November

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<v Speaker 1>From the skying in Center. This is Paul Murray, live,

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<v Speaker 1>fresh off the plane, straight into the man cave.

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<v Speaker 2>So good to be back here in the greatest country

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<v Speaker 2>in the world after having a bit of fun in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States. Thank you so much to Danika, to Georgio,

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<v Speaker 2>and to Steve Pryce Sporer.

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<v Speaker 1>For filling in.

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<v Speaker 2>We're back to normal from tonight, including a great conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with Meegan Kelly just moments away.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, a couple of things. Time for rud to

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<v Speaker 1>pack his bags. I'll tell you why, in the exact

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<v Speaker 1>moment when I made that decision. I'll get to it

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<v Speaker 1>in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Surprise, surprise, elbow is still sinking in the polls no

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<v Speaker 2>matter what happens around the world, and it's getting worse.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you which of the remaining state labor

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<v Speaker 2>governments looks like it's about to get the biscuit more

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<v Speaker 2>in a.

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<v Speaker 1>Moment or two time.

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<v Speaker 2>But first and most importantly, thank you to so many

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<v Speaker 2>people who were so kind about everything that we did

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<v Speaker 2>over in the States. At a ball all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how much I love the story. You know

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<v Speaker 2>how much I love the country. Here's some of the

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes stuff for those of you who like

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<v Speaker 2>to see what happens when we were setting up on

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<v Speaker 2>a rooftop in Dallas, all the way through to the

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<v Speaker 2>fun that we had in Cowtown, and then of course

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<v Speaker 2>once we made our way towards.

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<v Speaker 1>Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the experience of a career and just a real

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<v Speaker 2>life highlight. Thanks to everyone involved, both here and behind

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes, but also thank you for watching in the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers that you did.

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<v Speaker 1>I still am bold over.

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<v Speaker 2>That one of the editorials that we did from there's

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<v Speaker 2>got almost six million people on YouTube. Unbelievable stuff. But

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of things I wanted to mention about all

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<v Speaker 2>of this, which is that there has of course been

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more news since Donald Trump won about

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<v Speaker 2>a week ago, and it is all now to who

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to surround himself with. Now a bloke who

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<v Speaker 2>did serve in the military, has got multiple Bronze Stars

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<v Speaker 2>for courage, has.

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<v Speaker 1>Been nominated as his defense secretary.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's also and more famously known as a host

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<v Speaker 2>on Fox News, which of course has got left wing

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<v Speaker 2>media going core razy. Little Marco Rubio will be the

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<v Speaker 2>chief diplomat that'll be announced the next couple of days,

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<v Speaker 2>and the big one today is that Elon Muskin Ramaswami

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<v Speaker 2>are going to get together and they are going to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of live out the right wing dream, which is

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<v Speaker 2>to truly take the prunes to a federal budget.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, remember, the US is.

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<v Speaker 2>More than thirty trillion dollars in debt. Seven trillion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>is how much they spend each and every year, and

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans believe that there is a huge amount of fat

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<v Speaker 2>to cut. Now, the reality is that that is probably

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<v Speaker 2>very true. But when you have two people who haven't

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<v Speaker 2>worked in government before, who've been very aggressive in the

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<v Speaker 2>way that they have dealt with business and yes, turn

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<v Speaker 2>businesses around, a big way they have done is to

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<v Speaker 2>sack an awful lot of people. So, on the one hand,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is absolutely going to want to help dismantle much

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<v Speaker 2>of the deep state, get rid of some of the

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<v Speaker 2>dead wood that have always thought that they can outlive

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<v Speaker 2>a president. So it doesn't matter whether you try or not.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course, let's say a million people got the biscuit. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a million people who go onto the unemployment cues,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Donald Trump wouldn't want that either because that

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<v Speaker 2>will end up having its issues when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>how his presidency will be judged.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mentioned all of this not.

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<v Speaker 2>To continue the glow of the past week, but to

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<v Speaker 2>remind you that while Donald Trump won the election, he's

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<v Speaker 2>still not the president yet. In fact, we have to

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<v Speaker 2>wait until January twenty for that to happen. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>check in on the corpse that's currently occupying the office. No,

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<v Speaker 2>not the one who was falling up the stairs within

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<v Speaker 2>the first fifty days of becoming president by the way

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<v Speaker 2>back in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this here he was today. Clear question, weird answer,

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<v Speaker 1>roll the tape.

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<v Speaker 3>President Biden, do you think that you can cut a

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<v Speaker 3>hostage deal by the end of your term?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you? The headway camera behind.

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<v Speaker 5>You, right, thank you all.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, they get an upgrade on January twenty. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of time between now and January twenty. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's the guy who's in charge, still in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>As for the person who works side by side with

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<v Speaker 2>him as the co pilot and the plane that was

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<v Speaker 2>heading in the wrong direction, seventy five percent of Americans

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<v Speaker 2>saying that's the case. What about the details we're learning

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<v Speaker 2>about just how much money first of this campaign had

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<v Speaker 2>and how they spent it.

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<v Speaker 1>Peddled it up against the wall.

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<v Speaker 6>There.

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<v Speaker 2>I say they raised more than a billion, they spent

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<v Speaker 2>a billion and even then they ended up twenty million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars in debt. Talk to Megan Kelly in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's some of the stuff they spent their money on.

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<v Speaker 3>She reportedly paid five million dollars to Meghan V. Stallion

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<v Speaker 3>to perform at one of her rallies. Five million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason she did that is because Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 3>could get no crowds.

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<v Speaker 2>Meghan Kelly on the show tonight, brom A Bishop and

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Connery.

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<v Speaker 1>It is all heavy hitters, It is all a listers.

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<v Speaker 2>It is all as you have come to expect from

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<v Speaker 2>this time of night, each and every night here on

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<v Speaker 2>Sky News. Now, one question I've received plenty before the election,

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<v Speaker 2>plenty after the election, is well, could a Trump style

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<v Speaker 2>thing happen here?

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<v Speaker 1>Not? Really? Let me explain why so. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>The next battle that we turn our attention to is

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<v Speaker 2>the battle between the Prime Minister and the alternativeme Minister.

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<v Speaker 2>The polls right now very good for the LP, the

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<v Speaker 2>Liberal National Party, great for Dutton in particular when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to personal issues.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to those in a moment or two time.

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<v Speaker 1>But people who.

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<v Speaker 2>Say that, well, what about all of the workers that

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<v Speaker 2>changed and the demographics that changed. Surely if that happens here,

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<v Speaker 2>then a similar result will take place. Yeah kind of

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<v Speaker 2>let me explain and I will not get too boring here,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'll try and just explain in big overview chunks

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<v Speaker 2>for you. Fox News did a great thing with the

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<v Speaker 2>Associated Press called voter Analytics. This is when they spoke

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<v Speaker 2>to more than one hundred and fifteen thousand people around

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<v Speaker 2>the country. This is like the biggest possible poll short

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<v Speaker 2>of an election, and it shows that clearly under twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand and over one hundred thousand dollars that's what

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<v Speaker 2>Harris won. Everything in between that is what Trump won. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>how does that play out in Australia? So, as you

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<v Speaker 2>can see in those brackets, it goes twelve percent who

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<v Speaker 2>earn under twenty five thousand, then twenty percent who earn

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<v Speaker 2>between twenty five and fifty and another twenty between fifty

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<v Speaker 2>and seventy five thousand, and almost another two twenty percent

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<v Speaker 2>between seventy five thousand and ninety nine thousand. So you

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<v Speaker 2>can basically say what the best part of fifty seven

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<v Speaker 2>sixty percent of people sit in that middle band. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia fourteen percent of workers. Now again, workers don't

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<v Speaker 2>automatically equal voters. Why because we can work under the

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<v Speaker 2>age of eighteen. But this is the best numbers I

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<v Speaker 2>can get, and they're all sort of in the roundabout space.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fourteen percent, that's higher than the American number. But

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<v Speaker 2>then when you have a look at twenty three plus

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<v Speaker 2>twenty plus eighteen, we're basically in the same zone of

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<v Speaker 2>the high fifties to almost sixty percent of people between

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five and one hundred thousand dollars. So, yes, if

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<v Speaker 2>that middle band of people, if middle Australia decided to

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<v Speaker 2>go from one side to the other, you would win

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<v Speaker 2>an election, all right. Also, a couple of people a saying, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what about education. Now, those who have a college degree

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<v Speaker 2>or went to university, it's forty four percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>population and they voted majority for Harris. Majority of the

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<v Speaker 2>population though fifty six percent have no college degree. So

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<v Speaker 2>how does that compare to say Australia, We're basically it's

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<v Speaker 2>the same in terms of how much people earn. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>what about people who've actually gone to university. Well, actually

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lower number than the United States. It's forty

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<v Speaker 2>four percent in the United States that have gone to

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<v Speaker 2>university or have a degree. In this country, it's thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six percent of workers. That said, why does this not

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<v Speaker 2>automatically say great, people who haven't been to UNI earning

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<v Speaker 2>between twenty five and one hundred thousand dollars, Paul, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the sweet spot. That's how Dutton wins the next election. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, the difference is that we don't vote across

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<v Speaker 2>an entire state. Instead, we vote in our suburbs in

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<v Speaker 2>electorates that generally speaking take up one or two major

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<v Speaker 2>council areas. And here's a list of a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>council areas in Australia that have higher rates of going

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<v Speaker 2>to university than say, in places like the United States. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you know these locations, you know that some of

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<v Speaker 2>them are either teal seats or currently existing liberal seats.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the other examples about high education also sits

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<v Speaker 2>within And obviously I don't suggest that just because you

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<v Speaker 2>went to university it's a better education, but you understand

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean the bit of paper, A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>these things also sit within Teal seats as well, So

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<v Speaker 2>that's why it's not quite as easy to if you

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<v Speaker 2>build the coalition that Trump built, if you're Peter Dutton,

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<v Speaker 2>then you would be able to win the next federal election.

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<v Speaker 2>But without doubt, the biggest issue as to why any

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<v Speaker 2>Australian politician can't replicate what an American politician does is, firstly,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not winner take all.

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<v Speaker 1>If you win the majority of people in.

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<v Speaker 2>The state, you take all of the seats or the

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<v Speaker 2>delegates to the electoral college. And of course in their

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<v Speaker 2>system there's no preferences, so it's first past the post.

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<v Speaker 2>So you end up with somebody winning forty five percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the vote defeating somebody who won forty two percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the vote, and a whole collection of other people,

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<v Speaker 2>well they decided to vote for minor parties. In Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got people like One Nation from the center right,

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<v Speaker 2>who of course anywhere on poles between eight and ten percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Their preferences do determine elections. If the majority of One

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<v Speaker 2>Nation supporters back the LNP, the Liberal and National Party

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<v Speaker 2>win an election twenty nineteen. If they split it around,

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<v Speaker 2>guess what, Just like in twenty twenty two, the Liberal

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<v Speaker 2>and National Party loses. As for the Teals, they of

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<v Speaker 2>course too own, will not own, but have multiple seats,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course you need seventy six seats to win

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<v Speaker 2>the Liberal Party to actually get there. And yes they

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<v Speaker 2>might be able to move these coalitions that Trump was

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<v Speaker 2>able to do. They've got to blast the Teals away

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<v Speaker 2>fingers crossed.

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<v Speaker 1>It happens. And of course there's the idiot Greens.

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<v Speaker 2>He sit anywhere between ten and fifteen percent of the vote,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter how hard they try to currently underperform. And

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<v Speaker 2>of all of the people that are currently trying to

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<v Speaker 2>play American politics, is it Dutton?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Is it Albo?

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<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it Pauline Hansen?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a Teal? No, it's a Green.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the Greens are out there to make abortion an

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<v Speaker 2>issue again.

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't an issue anywhere. Look what happened in the

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<v Speaker 1>Queensland election. Benow the Greens.

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<v Speaker 2>They're the ones, dare I say playing the reverse Trumpian politics.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's why you can't have generally speaking, what happens

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States happening here as much as we

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<v Speaker 2>would like it too, sometimes as much as we would

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<v Speaker 2>like it too. Now, unsurprising the upgrade albow is in

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<v Speaker 2>a world of trouble every single day. No matter how

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<v Speaker 2>he flies or how far at the front or on

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<v Speaker 2>his own plane, he is heading in the wrong direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Since I've been a way, whole collection of polls have

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<v Speaker 2>come out. Firstly, News poll voters are backing the Coalition.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a labor to deal with cost of living,

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<v Speaker 2>cost of living number one issue. Sometimes these things can

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<v Speaker 2>get overly complicated, or we over complicate them, why because

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to talk about something every single night, every

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<v Speaker 2>single week, every single month. But the reality is that

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<v Speaker 2>the next election will be about cost of living. And

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<v Speaker 2>if the majority of people think that the Coalition can

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<v Speaker 2>do a better job than Labor, which I think they

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<v Speaker 2>can because in part of what Labour promised and then

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<v Speaker 2>of course under livered, well, then the Coalition is on

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<v Speaker 2>a very good path towards victory, unless, of course, the

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<v Speaker 2>teals and all the rest of it takes place. Meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>further dig into news Pold shows Peter Dutton's personal numbers

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<v Speaker 2>getting stronger and stronger and stronger as the airbus albow,

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<v Speaker 2>the upgrade elbow thing is just really punching him about

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<v Speaker 2>and it's all of his own doing. Meantime, what about

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<v Speaker 2>the approval ratings This one from the Resolve poll, and

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<v Speaker 2>it shows here that the approval ratings Anthony Aberzi has

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<v Speaker 2>only thirty seven percent of people who think he's doing

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<v Speaker 2>a good or a very good job. Peter Dutton has

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<v Speaker 2>forty five percent of people. Conversely, those who think that

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing a poor or a very poor job, fifty

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<v Speaker 2>one percent of the country now thinks that about Anthony Albanesi.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of the oh, Dutton's unelectable.

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<v Speaker 2>Duton's unelectable if you're paying attention, just like it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a giant surprise that the most unpopular vice president in

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<v Speaker 2>modern history was trying to pretend to be different than

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<v Speaker 2>the government that she has already been a part of.

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<v Speaker 2>Whilst seventy five percent of Americans so they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Headed in a wrong direction right now.

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<v Speaker 2>In Australia, it is more than fifty percent of people who'

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<v Speaker 2>say we're on the wrong track. It's more than fifty

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<v Speaker 2>percent who say the Prime Minister is doing a poor

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<v Speaker 2>or a very poor job. It's now close to, if

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<v Speaker 2>not over, fifty percent who believe that the coalition is

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<v Speaker 2>going to do a better job on that number one issue,

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<v Speaker 2>so surprise, surprise, despite all the chatting that happens between

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<v Speaker 2>now and the election, if it's close, if it's competitive,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the reason. And just like the Democrats in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, when a government gets itself in a world

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<v Speaker 2>of trouble, priorities are what matter. What about the story

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<v Speaker 2>today that while they took fifteen hundred dollars off ten

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<v Speaker 2>million workers at the height of the cost of living

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<v Speaker 2>crisis just twelve months ago, this federal government has tried

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<v Speaker 2>to lock in the number of people who are working

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<v Speaker 2>for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thus we'll vote for it.

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<v Speaker 2>When the yuga booger campaign about the Liberal Party is

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<v Speaker 2>going to cut public servants total cost five b four

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars, this mob have added five billion dollars to

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<v Speaker 2>the total wagers bill of the public service. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course when it comes to immigration, we know that this

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<v Speaker 2>government will it. It doesn't even kind of slow walk

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<v Speaker 2>the walk they told us at the end of last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we're definitely doing to do cutting immigration. Guess

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<v Speaker 2>what record highs, record highs. And again these are not

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<v Speaker 2>far right wing corners of the internet you need to

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<v Speaker 2>special access code to get into This is all right

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle. Everyone can see this stuff. And again

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<v Speaker 2>it's not because of any issues with people who.

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<v Speaker 1>Come home from somewhere else. Again, it's about priorities.

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<v Speaker 2>So at a time when you are financially in the whole,

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<v Speaker 2>there's spending five billion dollars extra in public servants at

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<v Speaker 2>a time when you're in the hole, they're adding to

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<v Speaker 2>the cure of people that are trying to get our

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<v Speaker 2>services or buy a house.

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<v Speaker 1>Compete with your kids.

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<v Speaker 2>But what's the priority of the government our social media

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not just about kids as staying off at

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<v Speaker 2>guess what the misinformation bill, the censoring the Internet bill.

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<v Speaker 2>It is beginning to die a slow death now for

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<v Speaker 2>the path of this thing to make it through, you

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<v Speaker 2>need all of the Labor Party centertors to vote for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, if you cross the floor, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what they do to you. You need all of

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<v Speaker 1>the Greens.

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<v Speaker 2>They will vote for it because it's a back to

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<v Speaker 2>a wave of trying to shut down conversations like the

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<v Speaker 2>one we're having right now. Remember that's their true dream,

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<v Speaker 2>is to try to blow us off the air and

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<v Speaker 2>try and take us down from the Internet. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>real game here. For Get all this misinformation garbage. It's

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<v Speaker 2>about anyone who is providing resistance to what they are

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do, they will deem as being missile disinformation.

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<v Speaker 2>So then of course you need a crossbach. Jackie Lamby

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<v Speaker 2>haven't heard anything from her, but remember she was out

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<v Speaker 2>and about and screaming about Elon musk Well, the Senator

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<v Speaker 2>that she brought with her Tammy Tyrrel. She has now

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<v Speaker 2>said she is voting no, and amazingly today door Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Pocock also came out today and said no, censoring

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet will not happen under his vote. Ironically, he

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<v Speaker 2>used social media to make the point. I've listened to

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<v Speaker 2>the experts and to people in the Act and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be opposing the Combating Misinformation Dissormation.

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<v Speaker 6>Bill unless major changes are made to the legislation other stands.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't believe it takes the right approach to dealing

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<v Speaker 6>with misinformation.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a bad idea when it was first suggested.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a dog of a piece of legislation last year.

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<v Speaker 2>They have done nothing, nothing but put a new collar

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<v Speaker 2>on it this time. And good to see even the

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<v Speaker 2>people that we would disagree with on ninety nine and

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<v Speaker 2>a half percent of things can actually see what this

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<v Speaker 2>really is about. This is not about anything other than

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<v Speaker 2>shutting down debate. The government doesn't like the government doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>get to decide what the truth is. All right, facts, figures, data,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you can back it up, then welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation. You make stuff up, okay, cool, but it

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be against the law. You should simply be ignored

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<v Speaker 2>by people.

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<v Speaker 1>Who believe you're not to be telling the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>It's why over the past few years I've really tried

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<v Speaker 2>to put a lot of effort into showing you the working.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember like the old high school teacher used to tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>show working, show working. That's why I show you the data,

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<v Speaker 2>to show you the information. And yes, be dollop of

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<v Speaker 2>opinion on top of it, because otherwise the government deciding

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<v Speaker 2>what's the police?

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<v Speaker 1>No, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Victoria's Premier justinto Allen world of trouble. There is

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<v Speaker 2>a crazy polog get to in a moment or two time.

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<v Speaker 2>Now American Poles. I will never mention them again. Right

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<v Speaker 2>we all know why. Australian Poles pretty close okay, pretty

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<v Speaker 2>close and.

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<v Speaker 1>Within the zone.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So if they tell us it's tight, you

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<v Speaker 2>actually believe it's tight as opposed to the garbage it

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<v Speaker 2>was being served up in America anyway, just into Allen.

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<v Speaker 2>So she has decided that she is going to continue

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<v Speaker 2>to bankrupt the state along with Tim Pallas. Even lefty

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<v Speaker 2>websites run by academics called The Conversation says, eye watering

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<v Speaker 2>spending is the type of thing that's happening inside the

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<v Speaker 2>Victorian budget, as well as, of course the outrageous and

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<v Speaker 2>offensive debt that is being built up. Well, there's one

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<v Speaker 2>group of people that the Victorian government draws a line

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<v Speaker 2>under about whether or not they are going to pay

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<v Speaker 2>them and pay them properly.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is the police force. Now this is again maddening.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you can't automatically click and drag everything that's happening

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<v Speaker 2>in other people's politics in other.

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<v Speaker 1>Parts of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Safety issues in London, they change the government. Safety issues

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States, they change the president. Safety issues

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<v Speaker 2>in and around Victoria, they will do the same. And

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<v Speaker 2>good on the police there who yes, went too far

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<v Speaker 2>in COVID it's a pro cops show. So the many

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<v Speaker 2>and women of the police force, the one whose lives

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<v Speaker 2>are in danger each and every day, we admire them

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<v Speaker 2>and we believe that they should be paid every cent

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<v Speaker 2>that they ask for, every cent that they ask for.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's some industrial action that's taking place right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And among that industrial action is police officers are writing

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<v Speaker 2>little slogans very specific against the Labor Party and they

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<v Speaker 2>are doing so on the police vehicles. And what about

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<v Speaker 2>this one that was spotted by an eagle I who

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<v Speaker 2>sent it to news dot com dot IU which says

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<v Speaker 2>learn self defense because we might be a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we actually get to you.

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<v Speaker 2>That is unbelievable now as opposed to dealing with this situation,

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<v Speaker 2>finding the money, paying them properly, honoring the police, thanking

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<v Speaker 2>them from their service, helping them when they help others. Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>Allen Government's not moving, not moving whatsoever, because this is

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<v Speaker 2>the one union that they are willing to ignore, that

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<v Speaker 2>being the police officers union, because sometimes a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>too right wing, sometimes it points out too many problems

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to law and order.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Instead, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Priority of the Victorian government today was a new poly

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<v Speaker 2>police officer, a new body that will be set up

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<v Speaker 2>to police the behavior of Victorian politicians. People who are

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<v Speaker 2>honored will be paid a very small fortune. But does

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<v Speaker 2>this surprise you? But Interestingly, the government is in a

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<v Speaker 2>world of trouble. According to the latest polling, which is

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<v Speaker 2>coming out via this time, that far right wing newspaper,

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<v Speaker 2>the Age The Resolve Political Monitor has shown that as

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<v Speaker 2>the preferred premiere, John Pascudo, I know it's not that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I say it anyway, is currently the preferred premier.

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<v Speaker 2>Now big asceristics of this. Yes, he's thirty percent, she's

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine percent. See the gray that's undecided. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>the most popular person in the race right now is

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<v Speaker 2>undecided as sitting at about forty one percent. Pardon me,

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<v Speaker 2>forty one percent. I got about eighteen times on the

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<v Speaker 2>plane today. I apologize, but Row fifty seven was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now no upgrades from Olbow for US now. Meantime, in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of the actual primary vote, the LNP is now

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<v Speaker 2>at thirty eight. Remember, if they have a forty in

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<v Speaker 2>front of it, they are going to win an election,

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<v Speaker 2>even the crazy one that's taking place in Victoria right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So watch this space, watch this place, because that may

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<v Speaker 2>well be a change coming to Victoria, and not a

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<v Speaker 2>moment too soon. Although, like anyone else, has been paying

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<v Speaker 2>close attention to the liberal leader there, I am as

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<v Speaker 2>surprised as you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, don't know is number one?

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<v Speaker 2>Then the Liberal leader, then the labor leader by a point,

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<v Speaker 2>but still a couple of things worth mentioning. Now, anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>you go in the world these days, you sort of

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<v Speaker 2>expect that you'll be able to plug your phone into

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<v Speaker 2>a car, And what used to be the car radio

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<v Speaker 2>is now, of course, an electronic screen that will on

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<v Speaker 2>many occasions take you to your phone of choices operating

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<v Speaker 2>s to say, the Apple Car Play. I'm an Apple head,

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<v Speaker 2>as you may will have worked out from now, so

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<v Speaker 2>I like that all of the apps and radio and

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<v Speaker 2>all the rest of it, I can pull it up

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<v Speaker 2>on a screen there drive around. Well, guess what, GM

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<v Speaker 2>and the United States are set no more. They will

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<v Speaker 2>no longer be putting in either the Google system for

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<v Speaker 2>androids or Apple Play White because they want to have

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<v Speaker 2>control over what you listen to in the car. And

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<v Speaker 2>how so an interesting move from the old fashioned radio,

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<v Speaker 2>which of course is great for that existing industry, to

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<v Speaker 2>the plug in version, which means you're able to use

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<v Speaker 2>your phone. To now the third version, which is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the Yes, I think technically you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to use your phone, but it's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the automatic loading that it currently is because

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<v Speaker 2>they want you to use their system because everyone must

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<v Speaker 2>reinvent the wheel. And speaking of what about a device

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<v Speaker 2>that has four of them? Shopping trolleys, we all know

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<v Speaker 2>what it's like to have a rogue one when for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason, it doesn't matter how hard you pull, it

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<v Speaker 2>goes in the wrong direction. If it's off to the left,

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<v Speaker 2>it's always trying to get you to buy mung beans,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's of course what the Greens would do.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's pushing you too.

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<v Speaker 2>Far to the right, it's telling you spending too much

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<v Speaker 2>money and put some stuff back. Cole's is launching an

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<v Speaker 2>AI powered smart trolley, following Woolworth's doing something pretty similar,

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<v Speaker 2>so presumably this means what it'll just walk around with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I've got a small confession. I went to Walmart

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<v Speaker 2>in Texas, and these things are just as big as

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<v Speaker 2>you think they are. Right, think of like three Bunnings

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<v Speaker 2>next door to each other, all shoved together, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>one shop. And in America there's a few big units.

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<v Speaker 2>So they actually have a series of electronic scooters that

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<v Speaker 2>you can sit and roll around the shops in and

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<v Speaker 2>I tried the first one and it didn't have any power.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried the second one, the third one, the fourth one,

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<v Speaker 2>the fifth one didn't have any power. So at last

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<v Speaker 2>I did not leave that little dream of being a

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<v Speaker 2>fat blow driving around in a Walmart in America. But

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<v Speaker 2>it will happen. It will happen sooner rather than later.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep an eye on my socials for the latest. And

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<v Speaker 2>also back in the United States and back to politics

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<v Speaker 2>just for a moment or two. Here the lefties that

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<v Speaker 2>are losing it well under reader who.

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<v Speaker 1>Just hits it out of the park.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's huge, by the way, every time I'm anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>in the States, plenty of people go, oh, read a

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<v Speaker 2>reader from the YouTube channel Yep. She is an absolute

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<v Speaker 2>start live of course eleven o'clock on the Telly and

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<v Speaker 2>always it's gone news dot com dot AU. Well, she's

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<v Speaker 2>spoken a bit about the hosts from the view, who

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<v Speaker 2>of course are all super sooking because of course Kamala,

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<v Speaker 2>who they thought definitely was going to win, didn't and

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<v Speaker 2>Orange Band bad.

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<v Speaker 1>All the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a stupid little theory that's rolling around which

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<v Speaker 2>is suggesting that you should be able to uninvite from

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<v Speaker 2>family functions relabashes as we would call them here. The

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<v Speaker 2>person who you know voted for the person that you didn't,

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<v Speaker 2>and this garbage is actually being talked about on television

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<v Speaker 2>in the US.

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<v Speaker 7>I really do feel that this candidate, you know, President Electrum,

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<v Speaker 7>is just a different type of candidate from the things

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<v Speaker 7>he's said and the things he's done and the things

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<v Speaker 7>he will do. It's more of a moral issue for me,

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<v Speaker 7>and I think it's more of a.

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<v Speaker 8>Moral issue for other people.

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<v Speaker 7>I think when people feel that someone voted not only

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<v Speaker 7>against their families, but against them and against people that

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<v Speaker 7>they loved, I think it's okay to take a.

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<v Speaker 2>Deep Please, please, Sonny and everybody else. Here's how it works.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a member of your family who you

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<v Speaker 2>would disagree with politically, don't talk about politics. And even

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<v Speaker 2>if the person who you disagree with ab our politics

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<v Speaker 2>tries to bring politics up, be polite and change your topic. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>we love talking about politics. I built a career on it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's why you watch us as regularly as you do.

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<v Speaker 2>We are people who love talking about politics, but we

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<v Speaker 2>all know there is more to life than politics. Imagine

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<v Speaker 2>being so screwed up, so screwed up in your brain

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<v Speaker 2>that you would decide whether or not to invite your

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<v Speaker 2>brother or your sister to Christmas dinner because they vote

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<v Speaker 2>differently than you.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, we all should live in a world where two

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<v Speaker 1>people can disagree with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>There are certain people who love disagreeing with each other

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<v Speaker 2>over dinner, and then they give each other a cuddle

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<v Speaker 2>and they move on.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is so.

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<v Speaker 2>Much else to talk about, like, for example, may I

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<v Speaker 2>again take you? We might even do a course on

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<v Speaker 2>this for how to talk to relatives you politically disagree with.

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<v Speaker 2>First things first, how's your year been? How's work? How's

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<v Speaker 2>the kids? If none of those things apply, have you

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<v Speaker 2>seen anything good on TV this year?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you go to the movies? Read any good books?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you still got that record play?

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<v Speaker 2>There's a million things to talk about. The idea that

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<v Speaker 2>you turn around and say that somebody you disagree with

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<v Speaker 2>you would extricate from your life is madness.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. I'm sure it happens on the right, but it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it happens on the left.

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<v Speaker 2>I've told you many, many times in the fifteen years

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<v Speaker 2>that I've been sitting here, the greatest job I'll ever

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<v Speaker 2>have in my life. I've lost plenty of friends, plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of mates because they disagree with what said. Politically okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>but you have to be serious enough to understand that

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<v Speaker 2>even like Adam band would love his family right.

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree with that everything the man has to say.

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<v Speaker 2>But if Adam Bant was somehow my second cousin and

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to a relay bash, guess what we

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't talk about politics Because in the real world, politics

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<v Speaker 2>is something to be interested in but not obsessed by.

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<v Speaker 1>In the real world, you judge each other.

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<v Speaker 2>On how you treat each other, not necessarily on what

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<v Speaker 2>you believe or what you would do when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to a vote every three years or four years. Please,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're the type of person who says I can't

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<v Speaker 2>possibly talk to you because I politically disagree with you,

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<v Speaker 2>then guess what you are not the person with the

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<v Speaker 2>higher hand. You are not the person who was on

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<v Speaker 2>the moral high horse. You're the person who is making

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<v Speaker 2>a massive mistake with their life.

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<v Speaker 1>Agree, disagree, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Just get on with life, which is exactly what we're

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<v Speaker 2>about to do.

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<v Speaker 1>All start. No mucking around tonight. I cannot wait for.

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<v Speaker 2>Brom and Bishop Stephen Conroy and Meghan Kelly it's great

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<v Speaker 2>to be back in the man Cave in beautiful Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for watching.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good point to my friends who just sent me

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<v Speaker 2>text saying COVID please. We saw Instagram it was the

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<v Speaker 2>Cigars for two weeks, absolutely correct about why the voice

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<v Speaker 2>might be a little bit off. Join him in out

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<v Speaker 2>to discuss everything here at home and the stuff happening

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<v Speaker 2>around the world. Is the carry out a champ as

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<v Speaker 2>always on a Wednesday night, Bromwin, Bishop of the Man

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<v Speaker 2>who's just here to help labor to his bootstraps, and

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<v Speaker 2>than Stephen Conroy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll be honest with you. I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I said it on the day. You saw it all

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<v Speaker 2>in the live coverage. Don't spite the ball be a

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<v Speaker 2>good win? All of that stuff, right, I stand by

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<v Speaker 2>all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So I've been reading and going Kevin rud should

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<v Speaker 1>he stay? Should he go? Should he stay? Should he go?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was willing to be merciful and say, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, load, continuity is important, all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I read that Olkham Turnbull has come out

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<v Speaker 2>today and said it would be an absolute mistake for

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<v Speaker 2>us to remove him.

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<v Speaker 1>So Kevin hit the bricks, hit the bricks and bugger off.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I know that that means you're going to come

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<v Speaker 2>back and you're going to be leading the plan for

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<v Speaker 2>the Royal Commission to shut us down and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to put up with all of that garbage.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But wherever the ghost is, Stephen, I am in the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite direction.

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<v Speaker 1>And if the ghost.

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<v Speaker 2>Says keep Kevin, then I say hit the bricks poal.

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<v Speaker 1>Look.

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<v Speaker 4>I usually have that as a rule of thumb as well, Paul.

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<v Speaker 4>But as you know, that means Bromwin will be on

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<v Speaker 4>Kevin's side now because the man she voted for Turnbull, Ah,

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<v Speaker 4>he got bored.

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<v Speaker 1>I gonna get in early.

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<v Speaker 5>That's your problem.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got Peter Dutton, You've got Scott Morrison, You've got

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Hockey, you've got Malcolm Turnbull. All are saying the

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<v Speaker 4>same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>Australia has to that behind its ambassadors anywhere in the world,

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<v Speaker 4>no matter what the difficulties are, and we have to

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<v Speaker 4>stand with them, come to deliver on our national interest

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<v Speaker 4>with you on all of the credit to all those things.

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<v Speaker 2>Until my position, yeah, they got me all until then,

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen the ghosts and the ghost when the ghost

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<v Speaker 2>jumps on a bandwagon. I mean, what's his record? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're a republic. The voice happened like you know when

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<v Speaker 2>a place duck egg four fifths bugger or anyway. He

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<v Speaker 2>of course too, he said, playing the world everybody miss down?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, bro, saw the whites of your eyes. Then,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was starting to build the case, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out now.

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<v Speaker 6>Kind is what is the job of a diplomat?

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<v Speaker 1>Correct?

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<v Speaker 6>The job of a diplomat is to make sure that

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<v Speaker 6>your nation gets the best possible treatment from the country

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<v Speaker 6>to which you are posted.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, And you have a right to send who you

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<v Speaker 2>believe to be the best represented. But if the circumstances

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<v Speaker 2>change and the incoming is saying pow. And remember it's

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<v Speaker 2>not one comment, it was a pattern of them relentlessly

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<v Speaker 2>because he was part of the same snob class that

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<v Speaker 2>was backing in Kamala.

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<v Speaker 6>There is a nice Latin phrase, persona non grata.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and that's I live it every day.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the way he's likely to be treated, which means

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<v Speaker 6>Australia suffers.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, the real answer is that Kevin is an intelligent man.

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<v Speaker 6>He should see the dilemma and he should resign that

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<v Speaker 6>would be the proper thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Or there'll be some other way, or get kicked up

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<v Speaker 2>to the un After all, we'll see what happens, but.

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<v Speaker 6>It can't be worse than what's there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, correct, all right, So let's get back to where

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<v Speaker 2>I was before, which was about people who said to me, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>can what happened in America happened here again. I mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>about the financial things. I mentioned about the education things.

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<v Speaker 2>But preferential voting and it's not sort of winner take

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<v Speaker 2>all in terms of states, does make it a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit difficult. That said, the overall headline a week on

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<v Speaker 2>going through the data, going through the reality of where

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<v Speaker 2>the government is versus where the government wants to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Should labor be legitimately worried about being a one term

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<v Speaker 2>government after the model has now been shown where you

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<v Speaker 2>can come back from a pretty dark place in just

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<v Speaker 2>four years and the Libs could do it in three.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, And I would have said that before the result

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<v Speaker 6>in the United States. And when people say it hasn't

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<v Speaker 6>been done since nineteen thirty one or whatever, it is,

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<v Speaker 6>the fact of the matter is when Tony Abbott went

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<v Speaker 6>to the election in two thousand and basically one man

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<v Speaker 6>except for two renegade nats he won. Now, the fact

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<v Speaker 6>of the matter is it can be done, and it

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<v Speaker 6>should be done. And as I said, I would say

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<v Speaker 6>that before what happened in the United.

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<v Speaker 1>States and basically in popular vote in ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, you've got the popular vote in nineteen ninety Yes,

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<v Speaker 6>so it's not impossible to do it at all. But

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<v Speaker 6>the important thing is this, The Dunton is calm, he's

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<v Speaker 6>got a plan, he's got sets out the direction he's

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<v Speaker 6>traveling in what he stands for. You know, what does

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<v Speaker 6>Albanizi stand for? Socialism?

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<v Speaker 1>That's it? Upgrades?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, the elites always want to be socials always want

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<v Speaker 6>to be the elite.

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<v Speaker 1>Corect Well, no, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And look we've seen we've seen pile after poll, focus group,

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<v Speaker 2>but coming back weak in decisive, all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And again about priorities.

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<v Speaker 2>When they take five when they take three billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>worth of assistance, the fifteen hundred dollars automatic tax return

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<v Speaker 2>to you, they yanked that, they add five billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>to the overall public service, All right, Like it's about priorities.

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<v Speaker 2>So Stephen in labor circles now again, you know, trumpy

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<v Speaker 2>in politics, and presentation doesn't work in a country like

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<v Speaker 2>this for a whole collection different reasons. However, electorates always

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<v Speaker 2>reward decisiveness. They always reward decisiveness. And even if all

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 2>of the elites say that you're heading in the wrong direction, well,

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<v Speaker 2>there are plenty of examples we can all look at

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<v Speaker 2>in history where the more decisive leader with a controversial

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<v Speaker 2>plan ends up kicking ass over the person who wants

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<v Speaker 2>to small target and sort of cuddle their way to power.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, look, I think there's some good points there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>if there's anyone in labor circles that thinks that Peter

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<v Speaker 4>Dutton is unelectable or this week's string of polls that

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 4>have come out should absolutely be cold hard shivers running

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 4>down their spines if that's what they still think. Now,

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 4>I think they're smart enough to realize that an argument

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 4>about Dutton being unelectable is disappearing very very fast. If

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 4>it ever existed, it certainly doesn't exist today and for

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 4>the next six months. So I think that they need

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 4>to think long and hard about how they're going to

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 4>focus this election. If they think they can do what

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 4>Commala did, just point out Trump and go he's a

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 4>really bad man. He's done lots of horrible things and

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 4>you shouldn't vote for him. It didn't make a difference.

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 4>What the strains are concerned about is the cost of living,

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 4>and so the Labor Party has put in place a

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 4>range of measures. They clearly haven't cut through enough at

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 4>this point. They've got to keep talking about them. They've

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 4>got to do more between now and the election to

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 4>ensure that they're seen to be doing something around cost

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 4>of living and housing.

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<v Speaker 6>They just think they can focus on what are they

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 6>focusing on? Misinformation bills? Correct, this is not what's concerning

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 6>the Australian people. It concerns us because we know it's

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 6>the wrong thing to do. But the point is that

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 6>they're not concentrating on what needs to be done. You've

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 6>got a treasure who just fights with the governor of

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 6>the Reserve Bank. I know your attitude to the Reserve Bank,

0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 6>but nonetheless it doesn't cut through as being a government

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 6>in charge of its own agenda. You've got a Prime

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 6>minister who every time he makes a mistake, this time

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 6>they put him a plane to go to some conference

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 6>in the Pacific Islands or heaven forbid, off the cop

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 6>when nobody important is going at all, so there is

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 6>no direction about what is this government trying to do

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 6>for the Australian people. Dutn is saying we're going to

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 6>give you cheaper electricity, really not like the promise at

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 6>Albert twenty four one that will mean that the lights

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 6>won't go out. We're looking at the ridiculous situation in

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 6>twenty day where China is saying you Australia have got

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:40.720
<v Speaker 6>to kick in one point eight trillion dollars a year

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 6>to give to including US China because where are developing country?

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 6>I mean, the whole debate is nonsense. And yet the

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 6>various sections of the community in Australia that are now

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 6>starting to say, no, you can't destroy our farmlands. No,

0:34:56.320 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 6>you've got no plan to what happens to the the

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 6>windmills and the solar panels when they're twenty years old

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 6>and they've got to be going to landfill?

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Who's going to pay for that?

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 6>Important questions plus cost of living are just not being

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:12.839
<v Speaker 6>answered well.

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Also also really important about the climate change stuff. Right,

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 2>less than three percent of people had it as their

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:20.880
<v Speaker 2>top three issue.

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Secondly, also with the with Trump pulling out of the

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Paris Agreement. It means all the garbage in and around

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 2>twenty thirty and twenty thirty five really blows away, and

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 2>it's a conversation about twenty fifty. Now, of course, all

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 2>of that matters, because remember, China can keep doing whatever

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.399
<v Speaker 2>the heck it wants till twenty thirty, whatever it wants

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 2>till twenty thirty.

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:43.800
<v Speaker 1>And sorry to rub sold into.

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 2>The wounds, Stephen, because I know you will worre quite

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 2>the Kamala fan, but I just want you to imagine

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 2>what's happening in the next four years, which is Donald

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Trump will be there on the two hundred and fiftieth

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 2>birthday of the United States, and Donald Trump will be

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.799
<v Speaker 2>there to open the twenty twenty eight Olympic Games in

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles. All right, So all those things you were

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 2>looking forward to Kamala doing, on top of everything else,

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 2>you're going to get Trump, which brings me too.

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 1>There's a moment in time when if you're a super.

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Political fan, you end up sort of watching a lot

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 2>of people and you think, oh, you know, I always

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 2>love this person because this person is always it never

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 2>steers me wrong, right, And it's not at all an

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 2>age thing.

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>It is just sometimes about.

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Can you believe somebody if they told you one thing

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 2>last week and they tell you another.

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Thing the next week.

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:29.879
<v Speaker 2>Right now, James Carville was, of course, the big brain

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 2>behind is the economy stupid all the rest of it

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 2>back in nineteen ninety two. He's been fascinating, amazing, incredible

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 2>on television and if I had any chance in my

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:38.239
<v Speaker 2>life to sit and talk to him for an hour,

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.839
<v Speaker 2>I'd gladly do so. There's a great documentary about his life,

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 2>particularly how hard he was working to get rid of

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:44.879
<v Speaker 2>Biden at the end.

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:46.479
<v Speaker 1>But he put out an.

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Opinion piece a couple of weeks before the election where

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:52.240
<v Speaker 2>he said, Harris will win. He listened all the reasons

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 2>why she will win. He was clear in video after

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 2>video after video after video after video about why she

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:01.239
<v Speaker 2>will win, not just blue. She was you should win,

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Why I think she can win. It was definitive, it

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 2>was absolute. And when you got a backside handed to her, well,

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:08.960
<v Speaker 2>he's now turning around and saying he always knew that.

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 2>What was the direct opposite of what he said was

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 2>what he thought.

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<v Speaker 5>Have no legislative power, we have no executive power, we

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 5>have no judicial power. So when you out of power,

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:25.839
<v Speaker 5>you are an opposition party, and go and tell all

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 5>of the people that are sending you and asking you

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:32.879
<v Speaker 5>for money, justify what you did, Justify what you did wrong,

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 5>and tell us what you're going to do different, because

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 5>what you've done a worth. Get your head around that

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 5>in all of the Washington based Democrats farting around going

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:48.320
<v Speaker 5>to wine and cheese parties and talking about how masagey

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 5>initiagly to get yours out of Washington and go work

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 5>on a twenty twenty six campaign and do penance to

0:37:56.680 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 5>make up for your goddamn arrogance and stupidity. Well, we've

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 5>got to say we told you so. We told you

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 5>this a dentist was disaster. We told you to get

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:08.280
<v Speaker 5>out in front of public safety issues.

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 1>You didn't.

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 5>We told you to have an open process and demonstrate

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 5>the magnificent and staggering and deep talented existed of my

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 5>Democratic Party.

0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:18.240
<v Speaker 1>You didn't.

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 5>We told you to differentiate yourself a Biden.

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 1>You didn't.

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 5>I hate to be know it all, but all of

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:27.800
<v Speaker 5>these things are part of the record.

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 1>He is amazing, He's an incredible political brain.

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:32.360
<v Speaker 2>But I got to say it takes a little step

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 2>back for me after saying one thing one week and

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 2>then being the other.

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>So I want to ask both of you, guys, the's

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 1>people who obviously wear a jersey. You've team written Team

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I bet James Coffin, do you want to say something?

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:43.319
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 3>I do.

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 6>Okay, this is the book he wrote when he was

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.720
<v Speaker 6>at the peak of his past, and if he reread

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 6>his own book, he'd never written that article.

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Yes, very good point.

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 6>What he started was out there is starting to reflect

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 6>on what is in here. In fact, if you read

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 6>this book and I have been ready for a long times,

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 6>even the autograph cop.

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I know, look at you.

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 5>The bottom line is.

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 6>That all the things he said you should do, Trump

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 6>did yes, and like fight fight fight, that's what he

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 6>always says you should do. So just where you read

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 6>your book again?

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>All right, So thirty second version from both of you.

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Right, You've got you've got friends, a career to look

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 2>back on, and again you wear the jerseys of Team

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Red and Team But how do you make sure that

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 2>you never fall into that whole problem?

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 1>And where we will win? We will win, We will win.

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:32.359
<v Speaker 1>I know we'll win. We'll win.

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:34.440
<v Speaker 2>This many seats in this many played, like all of

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 2>that definitive, you know, buck up, and then the week

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 2>after I never that You've got to make sure you

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 2>just never because I'm pretty fluent in how formal police speak, right,

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 2>and I can tell when you're all in or whether

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 2>you're just doing the best you can.

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:53.239
<v Speaker 6>I believe Trump would win, yes, when everybody said on

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:56.399
<v Speaker 6>a coming, I had these arguments correct, and I kept

0:39:56.440 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 6>saying he would win. But I did that because of

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 6>my own research, if you like, and looking at just

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 6>what didn't make sense. I saw the polls being used

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 6>as as really propaganda material, not trying to be realistic

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 6>at all. So there is the very real thing that

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:22.279
<v Speaker 6>you always must have. Says it now. I say Peter

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 6>Dutton can win the next election, yes, because I've looked

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:26.760
<v Speaker 6>at what is happening.

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 2>But this is the thing, and if he doesn't, you're

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 2>not going to turn around and say I never will

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:34.720
<v Speaker 2>be looking for some honesty in feedback, And again, Stephen,

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.799
<v Speaker 2>again it hurts me to say that one of the

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 2>greats is not as great.

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>As he used to be because of that thing.

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.359
<v Speaker 2>But again, as a person who you want your team

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 2>to win, but each and every week you make it

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 2>very clear that you're not going to lie on their

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 2>behalf about their chances.

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 4>No, I think you've got to. Brockman has been in

0:40:55.640 --> 0:41:01.280
<v Speaker 4>politics longer than me, So you just have to always

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 4>accept that the Electric get it right. Even if you

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:07.720
<v Speaker 4>think that the arguments you're putting forward and your team's

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 4>putting forward are the correct ones. The Electric always get

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 4>it right. And Carvill's dead right about what's happened in

0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 4>the US in what he said.

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:18.720
<v Speaker 1>In the last few.

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:22.360
<v Speaker 4>Days, and there's a lot of lessons and messages that

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 4>he's given there that we need to pay attention to

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 4>here in Australia or we may lose.

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Yep, see there we go. I like the honest. Are

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you always here to help in both directions? I appreciate it.

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys, love you to see you hear from

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the men. Cab'le see you're get next week or a

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 1>quick breakday. We're more.

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Meghan Kelly from the United States. Oh, she's on fire today.

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Our favorite time to talk to our favorite person, Meghan Kelly,

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 2>The Meg and Kelly Show. Find it on Youtubeer serious XM.

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Do you still feel like it's buzzing? I'm still on

0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 2>cloud nine, mate?

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:56.800
<v Speaker 8>What about you same?

0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 3>I truly haven't felt this euphoric. I don't remember the

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 3>last certainly not professionally. When do you ever feel professionally euphoric?

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Just I'm absolutely thrilled, and I do just feel like

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:10.800
<v Speaker 3>in many ways our country was saved. It was saved

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:12.719
<v Speaker 3>by what happened last Tuesday. It's not that it would

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:15.319
<v Speaker 3>have gone away had she won, But I just don't

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 3>know how we would have handled four more years of

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 3>that far left rule and the open borders, the number

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 3>of dead Americans we would have had, I mean, the war.

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 3>I just I feel, truly, it's like the dawn of

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.319
<v Speaker 3>a new day. I feel hopeful about my children. I'm

0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 3>walking around clicking my heels.

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Now the world has moved on from Kamala Harris. Could

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 1>we just take a sick just a little second.

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 2>She raises a billion dollars, spends it all, and ends

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 2>up twenty million dollars in dead heck did.

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:44.359
<v Speaker 1>She do that?

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 3>It's undbelievable if these reports are true, and some of

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.919
<v Speaker 3>them we've seen ourselves. So I'll get to the Oprah

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:55.960
<v Speaker 3>one in one second. But she reportedly paid five million

0:42:56.320 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 3>dollars to Megan V. Stallion to perform one of her

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 3>rallies five million dollars. And the reason she did that

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 3>is because Kamala Harris could get no crowds. She had

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 3>a couple when she first announced, it was like, oh,

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:12.439
<v Speaker 3>this is exciting, there's a there's a switcheroo, the dead

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 3>guy's not running anymore in favor, and so there was

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.319
<v Speaker 3>a little in the beginning, and then they realized she

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:21.160
<v Speaker 3>stinks and they weren't coming, and so they spent five

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 3>million dollars to say, oh, basically, come to a Megan

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Thee Stallion concert, and people did. And then they realized,

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, this is the way we're going to

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 3>do it. This is how we're going to get people

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 3>to show up. We're going to tell him Beyonce's going

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 3>to be here and they'll show up, which they did,

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<v Speaker 3>but then Beyonce didn't perform, but still got a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of money.

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<v Speaker 8>And then we get to the Oprah thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, you and I both know, and Oprah still considers

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<v Speaker 3>herself a journalist. As far as I understand, you and

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<v Speaker 3>I both know, if we want an interview with Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 3>one thing we would not be allowed to do is

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<v Speaker 3>to say we'll pay you money. Kamala Harris or you

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<v Speaker 3>pay us money and we can make this interview happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Both of those are totally unethical. No money is to

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<v Speaker 3>change hands between actual journalists and their subjects. And the

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<v Speaker 3>only exception to that rule is you can pay for

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<v Speaker 3>their expenses for like a light out to know the interview,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can pay for if you need to like

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<v Speaker 3>license their wedding photos because you're doing an in depth picture.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, profile, and then that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, somehow or another, Oprah's profile of Kamala Harris wound

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<v Speaker 3>up costing Kamala Harris a million dollars. A million because

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<v Speaker 3>that big town hall in which Oprah Winfrey kept yelling

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<v Speaker 3>at us comber so annoying. She charged Kamala Harris two

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<v Speaker 3>payments of five hundred thousand dollars for that. And Oprah

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<v Speaker 3>was caught on camera this morning by one of those

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<v Speaker 3>TMZ type guys saying, Oprah, you took a million dollars

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<v Speaker 3>for that interview, and Oprah said no, I wasn't paid anything.

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<v Speaker 3>So the payments were to Harpo Productions, her production company,

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<v Speaker 3>So I guess ostensibly they could set up that set.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been on a lot of beautiful sets. Beautiful that

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<v Speaker 3>they had to build is a million dollars? Never heard

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<v Speaker 3>of such a thing, do not? And what I saw

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<v Speaker 3>there would have been pricey a million. No, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure Harpo Productions already has a beautiful stage that

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<v Speaker 3>she could have gone to and to add some video

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 3>screens like that you rent, you're not buying. How is

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<v Speaker 3>it a million dollar? I don't get it to me.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like she was greased. They greased Harpo Productions,

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<v Speaker 3>and Oprah naturally wanted Comma to win anyway, so everybody wins, like,

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<v Speaker 3>here's a million dollars, we're just burning our donors' money.

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<v Speaker 3>And Oprah looks like a hero because we all know,

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<v Speaker 3>just like Meryl Streep said, we all know com Let's

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<v Speaker 3>get a win.

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<v Speaker 5>I know you're gonna win.

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<v Speaker 8>Meryl said, Madam President. Ooh, who I didn't mean. I

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<v Speaker 8>meant vice president.

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<v Speaker 3>So the fix was in how many those people got paid?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that where the money went? Did Merrill get a payment?

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Did Jlo get a payment? Did Chris Rock get a payment?

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:08.279
<v Speaker 3>Is there were a lot of stars there that night.

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<v Speaker 3>How much did they get, if any, for their endorsement?

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<v Speaker 3>They're totally organic endorsement. Would love to know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's particularly ridiculous the one hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>that were spent replicating the set of the sex podcast

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:23.359
<v Speaker 2>Call Her Daddy. Now, this is because Harris wouldn't go

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<v Speaker 2>to them, so they came to her, but they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>it to look like she went to them, so they

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<v Speaker 2>faked an entire podcast set in a hotel room, and

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<v Speaker 2>for one hundred thousand dollars. Here's what they should have done. Okay, Now, Ika,

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<v Speaker 2>she wants to be in a certain way, shot a

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<v Speaker 2>certain way.

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<v Speaker 1>His how it works.

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<v Speaker 2>You set up a camera in a hotel room, and

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<v Speaker 2>you set up another camera for somebody who's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be interviewing you, okay, and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do exactly what all those movie stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Do when they're promoting something, which is that your line

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<v Speaker 2>for interviewers up, Thanks very much. You're give them the tape.

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<v Speaker 2>You give them the tape, You give them the tape. They

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<v Speaker 2>did not need to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So, first of all, that is a campaign that

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<v Speaker 3>does not give a fig about their donors' money. They

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't care less about using that money wisely. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how how it costs one hundred thousand dollars to

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<v Speaker 3>replicate a set of a podcast.

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<v Speaker 8>I really don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'll just give you. I'll lift the dress

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<v Speaker 3>up here, Paul. We did an in depth interview with

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<v Speaker 3>the stolen Valor guys, Tim Walls's platoon mates, who were saying,

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:26.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, he lied about his rank, He'd lied about this,

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<v Speaker 3>lied about the other thing.

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<v Speaker 8>We had to get a place off site. We rented it.

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<v Speaker 3>We had to bring in a big team to mike

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<v Speaker 3>the guys, to shoot it, to light it, all the

0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:35.359
<v Speaker 3>bit we had to fly them in.

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<v Speaker 8>I think all in.

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<v Speaker 3>That whole thing was like fifteen thousand bucks, which is

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<v Speaker 3>not cheap.

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<v Speaker 8>But I don't the Call.

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<v Speaker 3>Her Daddy it was the one lady, the host and

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala in a hotel room. Like well, they had to

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<v Speaker 3>make it look like the Call Her Daddy set. I

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<v Speaker 3>looked at the set. It had a couple plants, a

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:02.799
<v Speaker 3>couple lights, a couple of books, and the letters with

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<v Speaker 3>the podcast name I for the Love of Me. Do

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<v Speaker 3>not have any clue how that bill gets run up

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<v Speaker 3>to one hundred thousand dollars. It's like they wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>buy people's love. It's like they wanted to flush it

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<v Speaker 3>down because there's some rule that you shouldn't be left

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<v Speaker 3>with any in the coffers. I'm sure the donors don't

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<v Speaker 3>know about that rule. And what happened in the end

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.879
<v Speaker 3>was they actually ran out of money. They didn't have

0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:34.319
<v Speaker 3>all that money in the bank still to pay all

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:36.359
<v Speaker 3>they get out the voters. It's not why she lost,

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<v Speaker 3>but it wasn't good money or time management. And so

0:48:39.680 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 3>she had spent so much on freaking Oprah that we

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<v Speaker 3>talked to the get out the vote person for Trump today.

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<v Speaker 8>She was saying to Michigan, I never saw them.

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<v Speaker 3>Our people were all over the streets knocking on the

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<v Speaker 3>doors of the Muslim community, the Arab of community.

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<v Speaker 8>Never saw them. Two guys one time. That was it.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's because

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<v Speaker 3>Megan the million was busy spending the money that should

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<v Speaker 3>have been paying for canvassers.