1 00:00:03,420 --> 00:00:07,140 Sean Aylmer: Welcome to the Fear and Greed Daily Interview. I'm Sean Aylmer. COVID- 2 00:00:07,170 --> 00:00:12,119 Sean Aylmer: 19 affected every business differently, but it's an interesting challenge 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,030 Sean Aylmer: when you run a 170 year old luxury Swiss watchmaker 4 00:00:16,380 --> 00:00:19,670 Sean Aylmer: whose main marketing strategy is based around major sporting events 5 00:00:19,829 --> 00:00:23,410 Sean Aylmer: thrown into chaos by the pandemic. But the experience of 6 00:00:23,410 --> 00:00:28,120 Sean Aylmer: watchmaker Tissot is an interesting insight into spending habits, marketing, 7 00:00:28,290 --> 00:00:31,950 Sean Aylmer: and brand loyalty. Scott Jungwirth is the General Manager of 8 00:00:31,950 --> 00:00:34,770 Sean Aylmer: Tissot Australia and New Zealand. Scott, welcome to Fear and Greed. 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:36,950 Scott Jungwirth: Thanks for having me, Sean. Great to be here. 10 00:00:37,340 --> 00:00:40,280 Sean Aylmer: First, tell me a little bit about Tissot. It's a luxury 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,020 Sean Aylmer: Swiss brand with a lot of history, but it's also a 12 00:00:43,020 --> 00:00:45,229 Sean Aylmer: little more affordable than some of your competitors. 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,180 Scott Jungwirth: Yeah, that's right. I mean, Tissot really is quite an 14 00:00:48,180 --> 00:00:51,580 Scott Jungwirth: extraordinary brand. It's one of the oldest watch brands in 15 00:00:51,580 --> 00:00:54,950 Scott Jungwirth: the industry. It's almost 170 years old, which, that in 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,500 Scott Jungwirth: itself is quite incredible. It was started in 1853. Incredible rich 17 00:00:59,500 --> 00:01:03,650 Scott Jungwirth: history, steeped in tradition. It's always been a very innovative 18 00:01:03,650 --> 00:01:07,560 Scott Jungwirth: brand as well, and we've had a strong connection with 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,670 Scott Jungwirth: sport all around the world, including basketball, cycling, Moto GP, 20 00:01:12,750 --> 00:01:15,089 Scott Jungwirth: which is really what appeals to me about the brand. 21 00:01:15,770 --> 00:01:19,190 Scott Jungwirth: I must say, in Australia, I don't think many people 22 00:01:19,190 --> 00:01:22,480 Scott Jungwirth: really appreciate just how big Tissot is, and I know 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,870 Scott Jungwirth: when I started almost seven years ago, I certainly didn't. 24 00:01:26,180 --> 00:01:28,360 Scott Jungwirth: It's one of the few Swiss watch brands that actually 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,399 Scott Jungwirth: generate over a billion Swiss Franc every year. We produce 26 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,869 Scott Jungwirth: over 4 million watches every year. 27 00:01:34,870 --> 00:01:34,890 Sean Aylmer: Wow. 28 00:01:34,890 --> 00:01:38,170 Scott Jungwirth: And just to put that into context, one in four 29 00:01:38,220 --> 00:01:41,130 Scott Jungwirth: traditional watches that come out of Switzerland is actually a 30 00:01:41,130 --> 00:01:45,080 Scott Jungwirth: Tissot. And I think it's with that volume that we're 31 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,350 Scott Jungwirth: able to produce such a high quality time piece, but 32 00:01:48,350 --> 00:01:49,690 Scott Jungwirth: at a very affordable price. 33 00:01:50,170 --> 00:01:52,830 Sean Aylmer: Now, for those who don't know the watchmaking world, and 34 00:01:52,830 --> 00:01:54,930 Sean Aylmer: I must say, I knew nothing about until it three 35 00:01:54,930 --> 00:01:56,720 Sean Aylmer: or four years ago when I went to a watchmaking 36 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,470 Sean Aylmer: conference, it is a whole new world. There are people 37 00:02:01,470 --> 00:02:07,240 Sean Aylmer: who are absolute avid supporters of watchmaking and particular brands, 38 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,280 Sean Aylmer: and it opened my eyes to it. Typically, who is the 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,420 Sean Aylmer: Tissot customer? 40 00:02:13,169 --> 00:02:16,250 Scott Jungwirth: I think Tissot has a very broad appeal. It's quite 41 00:02:16,250 --> 00:02:20,460 Scott Jungwirth: difficult to pinpoint exactly who our customer is because we 42 00:02:20,460 --> 00:02:24,360 Scott Jungwirth: have collections that have more classic styling. So, something that 43 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,780 Scott Jungwirth: you might wear with a suit, something you'd wear on 44 00:02:26,780 --> 00:02:29,030 Scott Jungwirth: your wedding day. But we also have collections that are 45 00:02:29,030 --> 00:02:31,810 Scott Jungwirth: a bit more casual, a bit more sporty, inspired by 46 00:02:31,810 --> 00:02:35,970 Scott Jungwirth: fashion. And with our price points from anywhere from $ 400 47 00:02:35,970 --> 00:02:40,270 Scott Jungwirth: up to $ 2, 000, yeah, there's something in our collection 48 00:02:40,290 --> 00:02:43,649 Scott Jungwirth: for everyone. And I think that's really the charm and the appeal 49 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,560 Scott Jungwirth: of the brand, and why we're so successful all around 50 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:46,930 Scott Jungwirth: the world. 51 00:02:47,250 --> 00:02:49,900 Sean Aylmer: So you've been particularly successful during the pandemic. Your online 52 00:02:49,900 --> 00:02:53,510 Sean Aylmer: sales surged more than 300%. Why do you think it 53 00:02:53,510 --> 00:02:54,340 Sean Aylmer: worked so well? 54 00:02:54,850 --> 00:02:58,329 Scott Jungwirth: Yeah, it's been a crazy year, crazy 18 months, really. 55 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,730 Scott Jungwirth: And as you said, I think our online sales have 56 00:03:00,740 --> 00:03:04,419 Scott Jungwirth: completely exploded. A couple of years ago, we certainly identified e- 57 00:03:04,419 --> 00:03:08,700 Scott Jungwirth: commerce as an area we wanted to improve and grow. 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,940 Scott Jungwirth: At the time, it was a relatively small part of 59 00:03:12,940 --> 00:03:16,730 Scott Jungwirth: our business, but I think with the pandemic, it's brought 60 00:03:16,730 --> 00:03:19,010 Scott Jungwirth: forward the trends that we were seeing, in the online 61 00:03:19,010 --> 00:03:22,809 Scott Jungwirth: space, forward at least five years. I guess, a reason 62 00:03:22,810 --> 00:03:27,220 Scott Jungwirth: for that, there was different times during 2021 where we only 63 00:03:27,220 --> 00:03:31,490 Scott Jungwirth: had 30% of our retail network open, and what that 64 00:03:31,490 --> 00:03:34,049 Scott Jungwirth: did was really just drove people online. And I think 65 00:03:34,410 --> 00:03:37,280 Scott Jungwirth: it certainly opened up the eyes of many in the industry. 66 00:03:37,510 --> 00:03:40,990 Scott Jungwirth: Before the pandemic, I think there was lots of different 67 00:03:40,990 --> 00:03:44,770 Scott Jungwirth: people in the industry that didn't think you would buy 68 00:03:44,770 --> 00:03:47,700 Scott Jungwirth: a watch online, a traditionally a more tactile product. But 69 00:03:47,700 --> 00:03:49,840 Scott Jungwirth: I think the last 18 months has certainly changed that. 70 00:03:49,850 --> 00:03:52,770 Sean Aylmer: Okay. You've also, I mean, apart from the online sales, 71 00:03:52,940 --> 00:03:56,090 Sean Aylmer: you've got partnerships with traditional retailers like Meyer and David Jones, 72 00:03:56,090 --> 00:03:59,560 Sean Aylmer: as well as jewellers. Where's the balance between the two, 73 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,670 Sean Aylmer: and I understand what you've just said about the online sales, 74 00:04:03,020 --> 00:04:06,040 Sean Aylmer: whilst everything is being closed. Where do you think that will head though? 75 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,300 Sean Aylmer: Because I actually do, I have probably 15 watches to 76 00:04:09,300 --> 00:04:12,470 Sean Aylmer: be honest, Scott, and I'm really proud of all of 77 00:04:12,470 --> 00:04:14,850 Sean Aylmer: them, and I bought them in moments of my life in 78 00:04:14,850 --> 00:04:19,989 Sean Aylmer: the last 30 years, and that's how I think about watches, but I 79 00:04:19,990 --> 00:04:23,620 Sean Aylmer: would never buy online. I really like the experience of 80 00:04:23,620 --> 00:04:26,390 Sean Aylmer: going into a big retailer, like Meyer or David Jones, 81 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Sean Aylmer: or a branded store, and looking at them. 82 00:04:29,750 --> 00:04:33,250 Scott Jungwirth: Yeah, and I think that that was definitely an attitude 83 00:04:33,250 --> 00:04:36,930 Scott Jungwirth: that many in the industry held. There's a new wave 84 00:04:36,930 --> 00:04:40,400 Scott Jungwirth: of customer. I mean, the younger shopper. Tissot, because of 85 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,700 Scott Jungwirth: the great price points, we do appeal to that 18 86 00:04:43,700 --> 00:04:46,740 Scott Jungwirth: to 30 year old market. We also recently launched on 87 00:04:46,740 --> 00:04:49,300 Scott Jungwirth: The Iconic, biggest marketplace in Australia. 88 00:04:49,330 --> 00:04:49,570 Sean Aylmer: Yeah. 89 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:53,770 Scott Jungwirth: And younger audiences don't know any different. So, they're just 90 00:04:53,770 --> 00:04:56,500 Scott Jungwirth: so comfortable buying online. But I think what's happened with 91 00:04:56,500 --> 00:05:00,789 Scott Jungwirth: the pandemic is, it's introduced a lot of that middle 92 00:05:01,190 --> 00:05:04,969 Scott Jungwirth: aged and older to their own online space. They're now 93 00:05:04,970 --> 00:05:07,779 Scott Jungwirth: buying online. My parents, for example, had never bought a 94 00:05:07,779 --> 00:05:11,810 Scott Jungwirth: thing online, now they do it regularly. It's just changed 95 00:05:11,810 --> 00:05:15,820 Scott Jungwirth: consumer habits. But to your point, I think there's always 96 00:05:15,820 --> 00:05:19,080 Scott Jungwirth: going to be the importance of that store experience. It's 97 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,210 Scott Jungwirth: a brand experience. 98 00:05:20,710 --> 00:05:22,890 Sean Aylmer: What about the outlook for watches? Now, again, I'm falling 99 00:05:22,890 --> 00:05:24,870 Sean Aylmer: on my own experience. As I said, I've got at 100 00:05:24,870 --> 00:05:27,560 Sean Aylmer: least 15 watches. I wear one every day, or at 101 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,570 Sean Aylmer: least I did until the pandemic. And now, because I 102 00:05:30,570 --> 00:05:32,380 Sean Aylmer: have to take my phone everywhere because you've got to 103 00:05:32,380 --> 00:05:34,820 Sean Aylmer: sign in, and particularly if you're walking or something or rather 104 00:05:35,180 --> 00:05:38,220 Sean Aylmer: actually having a watch isn't quite as important. Have you 105 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,660 Sean Aylmer: noticed that at all? 106 00:05:40,050 --> 00:05:43,670 Scott Jungwirth: Well, there's a whole movement and growth of that smart watch, 107 00:05:43,860 --> 00:05:46,110 Scott Jungwirth: which is more of a device category. We don't like 108 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,840 Scott Jungwirth: to see it necessarily as a competition. It's more complimentary. 109 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,390 Scott Jungwirth: I think, the smart device, which everyone loves to wear 110 00:05:54,610 --> 00:05:57,100 Scott Jungwirth: during the week, it step counts, it does all those 111 00:05:57,100 --> 00:06:00,400 Scott Jungwirth: kind of things. The industry that we're in is still watches, 112 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,760 Scott Jungwirth: which are jewellery. So, watches really should be worn for 113 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,730 Scott Jungwirth: special occasions. I think you mentioned earlier, they're great to 114 00:06:06,730 --> 00:06:10,190 Scott Jungwirth: celebrate milestones, and I bet with all your watches, you 115 00:06:10,190 --> 00:06:12,719 Scott Jungwirth: could probably pinpoint the moment in your life... 116 00:06:12,900 --> 00:06:12,909 Sean Aylmer: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. 117 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:14,820 Scott Jungwirth: And what each symbolises. 118 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,560 Sean Aylmer: Yep, totally. Stay with me, Scott. We'll be back in 119 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:17,719 Sean Aylmer: a minute. 120 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:27,570 Sean Aylmer: I'm speaking to Scott Jungwirth, General Manager of Tissot. Okay, so, 121 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,180 Sean Aylmer: you mentioned that Tissot does a lot of marketing around sport. It's 122 00:06:30,180 --> 00:06:31,980 Sean Aylmer: one of the reasons that attracted you to the brand. 123 00:06:32,020 --> 00:06:35,360 Sean Aylmer: You've had sponsorships of basketball and Moto GP, Tour de France. 124 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,500 Sean Aylmer: How did you go during the last 18 months when 125 00:06:38,500 --> 00:06:41,490 Sean Aylmer: many of these were actually cancelled, or at least disrupted? 126 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,650 Scott Jungwirth: Yeah, it was very difficult, and we certainly had to 127 00:06:44,650 --> 00:06:47,920 Scott Jungwirth: adapt. I think what it took away on a local 128 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,469 Scott Jungwirth: level... I mean, a lot of those sports, you just 129 00:06:50,470 --> 00:06:56,400 Scott Jungwirth: mentioned that we're timekeeper, were international events. So, often the 130 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,780 Scott Jungwirth: experiential part of those sponsorships, like attending a basketball game, 131 00:07:00,970 --> 00:07:03,380 Scott Jungwirth: isn't something that we are used to in Australia anyway. 132 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:03,870 Sean Aylmer: Yeah. 133 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,510 Scott Jungwirth: But on the same note, it's that part that was 134 00:07:06,510 --> 00:07:09,830 Scott Jungwirth: removed from us. I mean, the broadcast still happened. And 135 00:07:09,830 --> 00:07:12,530 Scott Jungwirth: I think what we saw across all those events with 136 00:07:12,530 --> 00:07:15,500 Scott Jungwirth: so many people in lockdown is the TV audiences went 137 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:19,750 Scott Jungwirth: up. The digital audiences went up. The social engagement increased 138 00:07:19,750 --> 00:07:23,280 Scott Jungwirth: as well. So, I guess from a brand perspective, it 139 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,810 Scott Jungwirth: meant that we had more eyeballs to communicate to. We 140 00:07:26,810 --> 00:07:28,730 Scott Jungwirth: just had to do it in a different way. And 141 00:07:28,730 --> 00:07:31,550 Scott Jungwirth: so, a lot of our approach to marketing moved from 142 00:07:31,550 --> 00:07:37,030 Scott Jungwirth: that event activation experiential into a more digital space, to 143 00:07:37,030 --> 00:07:38,980 Scott Jungwirth: try and connect with the audience that was growing. 144 00:07:39,460 --> 00:07:43,280 Sean Aylmer: You must like the NBA, that's the U. S. basketball competition, 145 00:07:43,490 --> 00:07:47,100 Sean Aylmer: because you've just extended the deal there. Obviously huge for 146 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:49,810 Sean Aylmer: the U. S. audience, but it also has a huge following 147 00:07:49,860 --> 00:07:51,570 Sean Aylmer: in Australia and across Europe. 148 00:07:51,860 --> 00:07:56,140 Scott Jungwirth: It's massive. I mean, basketball in Australia is growing. It's 149 00:07:56,140 --> 00:07:58,330 Scott Jungwirth: on a real resurgence. And I think you only need 150 00:07:58,330 --> 00:08:01,170 Scott Jungwirth: to see what's happening with the NBL and the way 151 00:08:01,330 --> 00:08:03,850 Scott Jungwirth: that they've been able to grow the sport in Australia. 152 00:08:04,270 --> 00:08:07,530 Scott Jungwirth: And so for us, even though the NBA is international, 153 00:08:07,530 --> 00:08:10,929 Scott Jungwirth: it's about interest in the league, interest in the sport. 154 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,050 Scott Jungwirth: And as I mentioned earlier, more audience. So the greater the audience, 155 00:08:15,090 --> 00:08:18,920 Scott Jungwirth: the better for brands. So, it's still very relevant and 156 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,730 Scott Jungwirth: it's a really exciting sport for us to be involved with. 157 00:08:22,180 --> 00:08:24,900 Sean Aylmer: And my beloved Knicks beat the 76ers as well. Irrelevant, 158 00:08:25,220 --> 00:08:28,940 Sean Aylmer: I know, but anyway. Bringing it back home, you've also engaged 159 00:08:29,070 --> 00:08:32,540 Sean Aylmer: Australian athletes, in a move from rugby league and AFL, athletics, 160 00:08:32,540 --> 00:08:34,900 Sean Aylmer: and cricket. How's that strategy working for you? 161 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,469 Scott Jungwirth: Yeah, I mean, I really love working with talented athletes. There's a 162 00:08:39,470 --> 00:08:43,329 Scott Jungwirth: whole movement of influencers, which are certainly a big part 163 00:08:43,330 --> 00:08:46,490 Scott Jungwirth: of our marketing mix. But I think that the value 164 00:08:46,490 --> 00:08:49,250 Scott Jungwirth: of working with athletes is you can really trust their 165 00:08:49,250 --> 00:08:54,020 Scott Jungwirth: audiences, very authentic, and they're often very engaged. So, some 166 00:08:54,020 --> 00:08:57,340 Scott Jungwirth: of the athletes that we've worked with, Ryan Papenhuyzen, Adam 167 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:02,280 Scott Jungwirth: Zampa, Morgan Mitchell, Marcus Bontempelli. They've got great audiences, they're 168 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,840 Scott Jungwirth: very aspirational to a lot of their followers, and I 169 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,040 Scott Jungwirth: just think it's a great way to communicate our brand 170 00:09:09,250 --> 00:09:11,980 Scott Jungwirth: through such talent. And I think combined, they have over 171 00:09:11,980 --> 00:09:13,640 Scott Jungwirth: 500,000 followers. 172 00:09:14,020 --> 00:09:14,220 Sean Aylmer: Right. 173 00:09:14,390 --> 00:09:16,620 Scott Jungwirth: Collectively. So it was a really good vehicle for us 174 00:09:16,620 --> 00:09:17,690 Scott Jungwirth: to promote the brand. 175 00:09:18,090 --> 00:09:20,670 Sean Aylmer: What's really interesting in this is, is yours is such a historic, 176 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,830 Sean Aylmer: trusted brand, but you're using thoroughly modern means to market 177 00:09:25,830 --> 00:09:27,510 Sean Aylmer: it and keep it relevant. 178 00:09:28,059 --> 00:09:31,960 Scott Jungwirth: Yeah, absolutely, and I think that's probably where we merge 179 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,740 Scott Jungwirth: tradition and innovation. I think tradition is all always about 180 00:09:35,740 --> 00:09:39,080 Scott Jungwirth: staying true to what we do in watchmaking and quality, 181 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,959 Scott Jungwirth: but innovation needs to not just come with product, but 182 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,530 Scott Jungwirth: also the way that you promote your brand, the way 183 00:09:46,530 --> 00:09:50,080 Scott Jungwirth: you connect with consumers online, in store. Innovation's got to 184 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,190 Scott Jungwirth: be the driving inspiration. So yeah, Instagram, all the new 185 00:09:54,210 --> 00:09:58,140 Scott Jungwirth: social media platforms, TikTok even, they're all really important tools 186 00:09:58,140 --> 00:10:00,280 Scott Jungwirth: for us to continue to connect with the customer. 187 00:10:00,670 --> 00:10:03,240 Sean Aylmer: Now, the final question is, it seems that every industry 188 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,229 Sean Aylmer: seems to have supply chain problems at the moment. Every 189 00:10:05,230 --> 00:10:07,840 Sean Aylmer: time I speak to someone they're talking about supply chain 190 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,890 Sean Aylmer: issues. Is that affecting you guys? 191 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,650 Scott Jungwirth: It is in different parts of our business. I think 192 00:10:13,650 --> 00:10:16,900 Scott Jungwirth: we're fortunate that we get a delivery of watches from 193 00:10:16,900 --> 00:10:19,290 Scott Jungwirth: Switzerland every week. And while there has been a few 194 00:10:19,290 --> 00:10:23,040 Scott Jungwirth: delays, it hasn't created too many headaches for us. I 195 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,670 Scott Jungwirth: think where there's bigger problems, more to do with our 196 00:10:26,670 --> 00:10:30,300 Scott Jungwirth: merchandising and those kind of delays. Things that should 197 00:10:30,300 --> 00:10:32,860 Scott Jungwirth: have been here two or three months ago are now 198 00:10:32,860 --> 00:10:35,939 Scott Jungwirth: looking like they'll be here next year. So, it is 199 00:10:35,940 --> 00:10:38,630 Scott Jungwirth: impacting us, but we're fortunate that we can still get 200 00:10:38,630 --> 00:10:41,750 Scott Jungwirth: access to our product and not creating too many headaches. 201 00:10:41,750 --> 00:10:44,410 Scott Jungwirth: But it will be interesting to see how that plays 202 00:10:44,410 --> 00:10:47,370 Scott Jungwirth: out coming into Christmas because the last thing you want 203 00:10:47,370 --> 00:10:50,710 Scott Jungwirth: to do is have a watch arrive after Christmas Day. 204 00:10:51,190 --> 00:10:53,880 Sean Aylmer: Absolutely. Now, Scott, how many watches do you have and 205 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:54,540 Sean Aylmer: what's your favourite? 206 00:10:55,179 --> 00:10:58,580 Scott Jungwirth: I have five watches, all of them Tissots. So when I 207 00:10:58,580 --> 00:11:02,050 Scott Jungwirth: first started, I had a couple before that, but I 208 00:11:02,050 --> 00:11:05,230 Scott Jungwirth: must admit my favourite, my new favourite is our new T- 209 00:11:05,230 --> 00:11:09,390 Scott Jungwirth: Touch Connect Solar, which is our first connected watch, which 210 00:11:09,390 --> 00:11:12,079 Scott Jungwirth: we've just launched. So, I've been fortunate that I've had 211 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,110 Scott Jungwirth: it on my wrist for the last couple of months 212 00:11:14,110 --> 00:11:17,320 Scott Jungwirth: and I just really love it. I love the fact that it's a 213 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,320 Scott Jungwirth: hybrid between a normal sports watch, but with a bit of connectivity, 214 00:11:22,460 --> 00:11:23,339 Scott Jungwirth: which is how I like it. 215 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,320 Sean Aylmer: Scott, thank you for talking to Fear and Greed. 216 00:11:25,940 --> 00:11:26,770 Scott Jungwirth: Thanks very much, Sean. 217 00:11:26,980 --> 00:11:30,370 Sean Aylmer: That was Scott Jungwirth, General Manager of Tissot Australia and 218 00:11:30,370 --> 00:11:33,480 Sean Aylmer: New Zealand. This is the Fear and Greed daily interview. Join me 219 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,160 Sean Aylmer: every morning for the full Fear and Greed podcast, with 220 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,410 Sean Aylmer: all the business news you need to know. I'm Sean Aylmer, 221 00:11:39,070 --> 00:11:39,510 Sean Aylmer: enjoy your day.