WEBVTT - Growing up Minogue: Dannii on matchmaking, motherhood & her lowest moment 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:11.440 Hello, and welcome to Something to Talk About the Stella Podcast. 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.120 I'm Sarah Lamarquin to your host, and every week I 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.480 see down with some of the biggest names in the country. 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:20.000 Because when Australia's celebrities are ready to talk, they come 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:24.040 to Something to talk about. When Danny Minogue convinced her 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.560 parents to let her try out for Young Talent Time 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:29.520 at the age of seven, she had no idea of 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.120 the impact it would have on not only her life, 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:36.519 but her entire family, her parents, her brother and of 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:40.640 course her sister, Kylie, because back in the early eighties, 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:45.120 Minogue was just another surname in the phone book. But today, 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:50.240 well it's a lot more than that. It's Danny, it's Kylie. 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:55.320 It's disco and dancing and reality TV. It's World Pride 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:59.200 and Mardi Gras and being an ally. It's a very 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.400 famous genie that never got back in the bottle. From 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.160 the moment Danny went from singing into a hairbrush in 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:08.720 her living room to performing her first song on national TV. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:13.039 On today's episode is Something to Talk About, Danny joins 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.800 me to discuss her love of matchmaking, her lowest moments, 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:21.520 and what it was really like growing Up Minogue, Danny Minoque, 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:26.200 Welcome to the Stellar podcast. You are here in Sydney today. 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.360 You've come up from Melbourne. Thank you so much. Well, 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.479 we're putting it through quite the long day. You're here 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.319 with me in the Something to Talk About studio and 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:38.240 then you're straight onto set with Stella to shoot a coverup. 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:40.080 So you be exhausted by the time you get on 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:40.560 the plane. 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.240 No, but I'm so excited. I kind of last night 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.680 I was getting that thrill of you know, there's something 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:50.720 very very different about the Sydney energy when we come 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:54.440 from Melbourne, and Melbourne's my little home family bubble. So 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.080 it's like you get on the plane, you're all ready 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:00.520 mentally like, okay, I'm going somewhere different. This is going 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.680 to be a whole immersive day. It's just going to 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:07.080 go so fast from the second it starts. And then 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:08.760 you know, we get on the plane at night time 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.480 and it's like did that all just happen? But seeing 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.480 so many great faces, people that I know and I've 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:19.400 worked with before, so it's it's just enjoy good. Now. 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.040 For some people, the thought of having their photo taken 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.200 is like as scary as having to give a speech, 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.560 all the other things that insight fear in the average person. 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:30.720 So for you that knows you're going to go on 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.639 set and do this big shoot, the images are going 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:37.280 to go everywhere. How do you feel about the process. 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:41.360 It has changed wildly over the years, It really has. 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.360 I think there was the younger me that was on 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:48.520 Young Talent Time and it was just like smile and 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:54.000 we were in kind of some fantastic little family pop 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.560 bubble and everything was just like costumes and fun and 0:02:58.000 --> 0:02:59.560 we genuinely did smile. 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:00.480 It was so easy. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:05.560 Then I feel like I hit my teenages, my bodies 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:12.079 changing media were like maybe not so pleasant to me. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:16.480 And then when I started to go into photographic studios, 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:20.520 I was really conscious. And I think most teens are like, 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.760 your body's just changing, whether it still looks perfect to 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:24.760 everyone else. 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:26.600 You were just like, what is going on? 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:31.080 But then to have which now people understand if I 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.360 have this conversation because everybody cops it from social media 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.760 with your celebrity or not. But back then you would 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.080 just be complaining about why are you complaining about that? 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:40.839 But it was you know, it's a lot to take 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.080 on board to do something that you love and then 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:49.400 to read, you know, wild criticism about it. And I 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:51.960 used to be very very nervous to be in front 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.520 of a camera because I was like, the camera looks 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.800 into your eyes and looks into your soul, and inside 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.000 I was just frightened. I was so scared of that 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:04.160 camera and I'm like, it can tell. I'm like just 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:10.200 just so stiff. And then I feel like everything changed 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:14.560 when I got pregnant. I whatever it was the hormones, 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:18.560 felt so fantastic about my body and every step of 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:27.599 every change, and felt incredible, proud of my body, happy 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:33.120 inside too, you know, be soon to be a mum 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:36.720 and it shows, you know, the camera it does read 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:42.360 into your soul. And now it's a whole other section 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.840 of my life where you know, my body's going through 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:51.000 another lot of changes with age, and I feel conflicted 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.760 about it. Once someone's on set, I'm fine. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:55.520 I'm fine. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:59.279 I've done it enough times to be know that if 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:04.240 you a very relaxed and in my mind, I just think, 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:08.680 just be jelly, Just be jelly, and that that works. 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.279 I loved that revelation that it was when you were pregnant, 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:17.320 that something clicked and it became a less confronting experience. 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.080 I wonder, as you say, outside of your own experience, 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:21.919 what that is that we could bottle. 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.800 I just think I was happy. I was full of 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:30.440 really great pregnancy hormones. It wasn't a difficult pregnancy, and 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:35.039 I was just like, I'd never thought that I was 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.040 going to be a mum, and then here I was, 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:41.440 I was pregnant, and it just felt like I was 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:46.120 embarking on this epic journey, which it is, and that 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:51.520 it was something to savor every second, so that it's 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:57.080 your the frame of your mind, how you perceive that journey, 0:05:57.120 --> 0:06:00.960 how it's going to be, is how it's going to 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.920 be for you. So if you're excited or you're relaxed 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:07.280 about it, it's going to be great and exciting and 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:11.600 relaxing and good. It was like last night, you know, 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.279 the old me is like, oh, it's cover of shoot, 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:15.400 you know, am I ready for this? I have done 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.880 no working out, I've been eating too much over Christmas 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:19.719 all of that, and I'm like, you know, you just 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:24.560 got to forget it, relax, have fun, be confident in yourself. 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.200 And we don't always wake up with the same amount 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:33.000 of confidence. I believe not everybody does, and you think, Okay, 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.400 I wonder what it will be like when the alarm 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:39.240 goes off at four am. And I was pumped. I 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:43.680 was just so so excited. It's a joy to do 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:48.760 something like this. This is incredible work and really being 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.680 I know that media has changed a lot, and you know, 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:55.640 we're doing the photo shoot, we're doing podcasts, we're filming things, 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.080 there's behind the scenes and all of that, but we're 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:01.279 still all here creating. It scares me is that one 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:05.000 day we won't be here and AI is taking over 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.040 a few friends of mine that are models and maybe 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:14.080 grapple with a few insecurities about modeling. And I had 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.160 a conversation with one of my girlfriends the other day 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.880 and I said, the first commercial has come out that's 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:24.360 completely AI. There aren't models, the clothing hasn't even been created, 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:28.240 and nobody was there. Please, when you go to your 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:35.040 next photoshoot, just enjoy every second because these times we 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:36.440 don't know what's changing. 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:40.600 It's so true. I mean, as you say, the distribution 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:44.800 model might change, so content is being consumed and produced 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:48.240 on different platforms, but the notion of creating, whether it's 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:53.960 music or whether it's film or television or media. It's when, 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.920 as you say, people are starting to get outsourced by 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:57.800 the machines and. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:04.480 Creativity, the one on one working as a team. I 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:05.760 get a buzz from that. 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:09.080 Because that's the humanity and the connection, which is something 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.880 that's very much at the core of a series that 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.760 we can currently see you on streaming on Binge. I 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.760 Kissed a Girl and then I Kissed a Boy is 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:21.480 about to start back later this week now. Danny, obviously 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:25.240 everyone knows you have worn many hats throughout your career. 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:28.560 You have worked as a singer and a recording artist, 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:35.400 television host, actor. When you see I Kissed a Girl 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.200 and there's Danny Minogue walking into the room in a 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:44.440 glorious outfit, this uber, glamorous matchmaker playing matchmaker to same 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:48.880 sex couples. You have been a lifelong advocate of the 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:53.080 LGBTQIA plus community. I think if ever there was a 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.560 role made for Danny Minogue, it's got to be this one, 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:56.040 does it. 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.360 Thank you? Thank you for seeing that. I really appreciate it. 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.680 My friends know that I love nothing more than at 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:08.959 least tempting to matchmake and I do it with friendships businesses, 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.240 not just in a romantic way, but it literally is 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:17.440 something that makes me feel incredible. So many my friends say, 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:21.200 you know, you introduced us, and you know, I can't 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:23.800 imagine what this would be like if we hadn't met 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:27.640 through you. So that's kind of at the base of 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:32.760 doing the show. I am a consumer of a lot 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:39.920 of dating shows. I love everything from Indian Matchmaker to. 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:43.560 Love Is Blind to. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.360 You know, just so many different things. And it was 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.720 wild to me that we were making the show in 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:55.400 the UK and it was made for BBC and they 0:09:55.440 --> 0:10:00.320 had never been a same sex dating reality show, and 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:05.480 that made me really sad because everybody wants to be seen. 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.000 There are a lot of people out there who really 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.680 know who they are who want to be seen. There 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:13.600 are a lot of people out there who are trying 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.280 to figure out who they are, who want to see 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.920 something and then go, ah, the pennies dropped. That's me 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.920 and I relate to that. So it was really important 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:26.680 for me to do something to try and get this 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.200 on TV, but something that was done in the right way. 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:33.840 So I didn't want it to be a really scrappy 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.679 dating show. I didn't want anyone to walk away from 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:41.040 having had a bad experience. I wanted it to feel 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:45.959 like a warm hug, that people were genuinely there for 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:50.400 the right reason. The casting is incredible, not only to 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:55.400 show different personalities, you get to see different people from 0:10:55.440 --> 0:11:00.280 all over the UK. But it was the first time 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.640 in reality TV where it was not about being nasty. 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:10.480 The cast were not provoked by the producers and it 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:15.040 wasn't There wasn't some cookie cutter body mold that you 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.440 had to be in. You were not looking like Barbie 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.040 or Ken to get on this show. You were there 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:23.960 because you were looking for love and it cracked opened 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:28.400 this attention in the UK, Like the reviews for the 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:32.679 show were wild, like this is the game change, a 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:39.280 show of what reality now could be, and that everybody 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.679 was looking at this for how it's done. 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.960 And it is true. I mean that progress that you 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:49.559 see for people thinking if I had had that representation 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.640 when I was growing up, things would have been so 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:56.560 much easier and for you and me just observing that 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.200 change as well. Love to ask your thoughts about here 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.120 in Australia, because as you say, the show is a 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:05.040 British production. Now in Australia will have also seen over 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:09.200 the course of your lifetime massive progress. Same sex marriage 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:13.520 was legalized. Marriage equality was achieved in twenty seventeen, but 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.960 we don't have a local version yet of I mean 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.559 like that word, yeah, I was going to say, I 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:21.839 could think of somebody's sitting in this student I could 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:25.720 host it possibly with the initials DM. What do you 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.960 think about progress in Australia. 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:33.520 I think I have seen it come a long way, 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:41.480 and through Marti Grass, I've kind of had conversations where 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:47.000 I've learned more about the history of what's gone on 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:51.400 politically and what goes on with that event, and what's 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:57.400 happening with the community. And I think there's a lot 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:02.920 more there that can be documented and made into TV 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:07.560 shows to teach people. There is so far that we 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.840 still have to go, and I feel like in this 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:14.720 moment in time, we are quite affected by what is 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:16.520 happening in the rest of the world, whereas when we 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:21.520 were growing up we weren't. But news feels a lot 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.920 more global and politics feels a lot more global now. 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:26.839 I don't know if it's because I'm an adult and 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.760 I'm looking at it through a different lens, but it 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.600 felt like growing up what happened in Australia was we 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.920 were in a bubble of Australia and now we're not. 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.360 So it's kind of having an awareness that something that 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.360 maybe happens in another country has a dramatic effect on 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:47.080 what's happening here. But I think there are amazing stories 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.440 to tell people to meet. If we could make an 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:54.959 Australian version of this, it would be super important. I 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:59.679 had the good fortune to meet a guy who was 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:04.880 from the country and like a cattleman, and he had 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.880 wanted to kill himself many times because he knew he 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.280 was gay, and he lived in a small country town. 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.920 It's not gay bar. There's no Oxford Street, there's. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.400 No you know, old continent in London, you know Old 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.040 Comton Street, or there's none of that. You don't know 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.120 who you are, You've got nothing, no one to reflect off, 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.200 no one to talk to, and there are a lot 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.320 of people that want to take their lives. And I 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:31.960 think there are some incredible stories in these shows that 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:36.400 we've filmed, and you'll learn a lot about the guys 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:40.080 and the girls coming from different places in such a 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:45.240 tiny country, the UK, but you can be a few 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.800 hours up the road and it's small part. 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:48.880 It's not all London. 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:58.520 Story. I think what is important for the community that 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:02.320 I can help with because I always think what can 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:06.560 I do? What can I personally do? So there's obviously 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:10.960 been a lot of joy through music, Mardi Gras and 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:14.080 prides and celebration, and music is something that a lot 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:17.119 of people turn to in the privacy of their bedroom, 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.680 whether they're growing up and finding out who they are, 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.880 or whether they're an adult driving in their car. But 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:27.160 in that private space, that music feels like a blanket 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:32.120 of comfort. And I've read so many handwritten letters from 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:37.880 people that explained to me so much about how that 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:43.280 music delivers a message of hope and security as well 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.960 as celebration and joy, and dancing around and singing along 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:51.040 to the lyrics takes you to a place of joy. 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.000 So I think we've come a long way in that. 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.520 At first I heard a lot of words like, you know, 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.560 they want to be tolerated. Then it was they want 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:05.120 to be accepted. What I would love to see is celebrated. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.080 So in this TV show, what we do is celebrate 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:12.080 people for exactly who they are, not who you think 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.920 they should be or anything. Exactly who they are. We 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:23.280 make them feel incredibly safe and able to be themselves 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:27.880 and then you see people blossom and bloom and incredible 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:30.520 things happen, which is kind of the opposite from how 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.200 a lot of reality TV. 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:37.240 Is so true and that advocacy, as I said earlier, 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:42.200 life long ally to the community. When you mentioned Marti Grass, 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:45.440 so you performed in Marti Grass nineteen ninety eight. You 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:49.720 were performing in gay nightclubs in the early nineties in 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.680 London at a time where that would have been seen 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:57.200 by some managers and people in the industry is quite risky, 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.320 but everyone by everyone. 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.240 There wasn't one person that said, oh, there's no risk 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.240 attached to that, or you should do it, not one. 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:09.600 So again, is a very different time. 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.400 So then if you throw forward to something like now 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:18.920 where you're hosting a franchise like this, you are performing 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.520 on the opening night of World Pride, I mean talk 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:26.960 about a moment you are hailed as a gay icon. 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.240 You performed it well Pride with your sister Kyli Minok, 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.960 who's also hailed as a gay icon. I mean the 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:37.080 full circle moment of that of getting that pushback early 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.639 in your career that everyone was saying this is a 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.520 risk to something like that, and being on a truly 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:47.080 global stage and having that word icon attached to it, 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:52.080 that's really a snapshot of how far we've come, surely 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:53.679 in the course of your career. 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.320 Yeah, I mean for me, it's just all about love, 0:17:56.400 --> 0:18:02.480 and it's an ongoing love give out as much as 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:07.080 we receive. It's just an amazing relationship that we have 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:14.920 with the community and we hope to I don't think 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.640 we've ever thought I'm going to do this and I'm 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.480 going to lead the way. Like when I was asked 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:24.280 to perform at Gay in London, I thought, that's the 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.920 kind of club I would love to perform in. They 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:30.919 play the music I want to listen to. Everybody who's 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:38.560 there is in this crazy, happy pop dance mood. I 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.520 would love to be a part of that. It was 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:47.480 very scary because press were making up staff able to 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:49.560 say what they wanted. You had no right of reply 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.960 and you couldn't complain about anything that was written that 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:55.760 wasn't true, and then if you denied it, people thought 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.879 it's even more true. And I just got to the 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:02.919 point where I thought, you know, actually stuff it like 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:07.120 if you stick to what makes you feel great and 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:11.400 what is true for you and cut forward to now 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:17.200 when you hear the word authenticity, if we all are 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:20.520 brave enough to go to that place, and for each 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:29.359 of us there's a different there's always bravery that is needed, 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:33.880 but in different doses for different things, for different people. 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.399 That's one thing that I've gone through that was like 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.359 I just had to go against noise of people saying 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:45.800 this is not a good idea, and I was like, well, 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.320 no one's done it before, so let's see what happens. 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:53.960 Huh right, let's see coming up. Danny opens up about 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:57.679 her lowest moments and reveals the very profound way Kylie's 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:03.400 cancer diagnosis changed her outlawk con life. You have been 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:08.120 working before you got to double digits. So I mean 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.280 we have children around the same age. My oldest son 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.600 is fifteen, so just getting into that point and maybe 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:17.200 getting that part time job, but you were working on 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:20.800 young talent time. I think you first started on the 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:25.080 show seven or eight and then came on as a 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:27.840 regular performance. So that's a really young age to be 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:29.919 working in that industry. 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:33.080 That now, Like looking at my son at seven, there 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:38.440 was like, if you're motivated and you want to do it, 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.000 me when I was inside that seven year old body. 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:44.080 I'm like, this makes total sense. Just got to talk 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:45.879 my parents into it. It's like if you want to 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:48.119 talk them into giving you that money for the to 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.320 go and buy some lollies at the local milk bar, 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.520 which we used to do, this was the same. I'm 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:55.320 just going to talk them into it because nobody sees 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:59.240 this makes total sense. He wasn't that kid. So when 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.600 you're looking at a kid that would have no desire 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:06.240 to work or do anything that was like work, then 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.919 it's like, WHOA, that's very different. Yeah, like my son's 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:12.959 fourteen now, and so I was just googling the other 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:20.520 day like at what age, and yeah, what the options are? 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.720 And I think there's something great to be said for 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:28.360 getting a job when you are young, learning some responsibility 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:34.200 outside the home where your parents and guardians aren't saying 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:36.679 do this, do that, or you haven't done it someone 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:40.360 else saying that, and it clicks in in that different way, 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:43.560 and then you I've seen my friend's kids just blossom 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:46.200 from that opportunity to really step up. 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:49.600 Definitely, it's at independence. I'd love to ask, do you 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:53.119 recall how you convinced your parents to let you go 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:55.000 on Young Talent Time If you had to talk them 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:55.560 into it. 0:21:56.880 --> 0:22:01.320 There was a lot of consideration. My mom's sister was 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:04.240 doing acting, Kylie, and I had done a couple of 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:07.160 little acting spots, but it was nothing that was going 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.720 to change our dynamic. 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:10.000 As a family. 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:14.960 I watched Young Talent Time and I just wanted to 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:18.320 be in that TV set doing what those kids were doing. 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:21.000 But I had no idea of what impact that would 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:23.879 have on the family as far as the rehearsal schedule, 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:30.680 showing up being there and you then in the public 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:36.600 eye on the biggest entertainment show in the country every week. 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:41.400 I had no idea how that would affect Dad when 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:43.280 he walked in the office to go to work, how 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:46.200 it would affect mom. You know, when you've got to 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:48.560 put your name down for something, Minogue is the most 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:52.879 unusual name, and it's like, oh, are you related to? 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:56.720 And for my brother and sister, it was a lot 0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.639 at school, like we all went to the same school, 0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:02.320 so the kids knew we were all brothers and sister. 0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:04.560 You couldn't go no, don't know. I've never seen him 0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:09.359 before in my life. But there was a lot of 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:16.280 a lot of deliberating and what I respect and loved 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:18.359 about my parents was that they sat me down and 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:22.359 talked me through all of that. It wasn't just going 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:24.200 to be a yes or a no, and it's our 0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:25.000 way and you have. 0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:28.320 To deal with it, really. 0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:36.680 Trying to have a young person understand that here is 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:40.239 the impact that we can foresee, and then there's a 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:44.440 huge section of question marks where there's stuff we don't 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:46.360 know what it's going to be like. And they were 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:52.160 smart enough to know that because I've seen so many kids, adults, 0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:56.920 and families go through being on TV becoming famous, whether 0:23:56.960 --> 0:24:01.040 it's through reality TV or as an or a singer 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:04.840 or whatever. And once you arrive there and it changes 0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:08.520 your world, you're like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoah. Oh, I 0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:10.560 didn't realize it was going to be that, and now 0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:14.520 I don't want that anymore. You know, if you're an 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:16.639 adult and you're making your own choices, it really just 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:19.840 affects you. But at that stage, being a child and 0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:26.239 being looked after, it affected everyone, and I don't know 0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:29.359 how I would have coped being in their shoes trying 0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:33.600 to make that decision. It's really also so admirable, I think, 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:35.560 And to answer your question, I think I put on 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:39.639 big puppy dog like they put those acting skills to 0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:44.640 tell you how much joy Kylie and I had At 0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:48.520 any given opportunity, we would be jumping around the lounde 0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:53.240 room learning songs and dancers, literally singing into a hairbrush. 0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:56.160 I know it sounds stupid, but anything that we could 0:24:56.160 --> 0:25:00.080 do to try and pretend that we were these amazing 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:05.199